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00:31 <efc> "What To Do Right As a New Programmer?" Quit, for starters
01:12 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Listen to Yourself (at www.xkcd.com)
01:14 <efc> moo
01:15 <MTughan> 'lo e
01:15 <efc> watching "Another Date Movie"
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01:26 <efc> hmm, dell 27" for $700..
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01:45 <Tank_Master> what res can is support?
01:46 <efc> icanhas 1920 X 1200
01:46 <Tank_Master> crappy
01:47 <efc> atm, the 24" is $690
01:47 <efc> makes it seem better
01:49 <Tank_Master> not really
01:49 <Tank_Master> itll be more pixxely
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01:49 <efc> You don't need to be 6 inches off a monitor that big..
01:50 <Tank_Master> whats the point of a big screen if your just going to shove it further away?
01:51 <efc> not that much further
01:51 <efc> the 30" is 2560 x 1600
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01:54 <efc> only thing with those, other than the price, is the input lag
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03:39 <MadHag> is there a problem with rosetta?
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03:46 <CoderForLife> an early good morning, any and all
03:47 <CoderForLife> plink 220.127.116.11
03:47 <Tank_Master> tix 00:46 here
03:47 <Tank_Master> tiz*
03:47 <CoderForLife> 3:47am for me
03:58 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
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04:51 <ELGono> morning
04:53 <CoderForLife> morning ELGono
04:54 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab
04:54 <Tidus> btw hi CoderForLife ... long time no see
04:57 <ELGono> have a good day don
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05:24 <CoderForLife> back
05:24 <CoderForLife> hey Tidus
05:25 <CoderForLife> well - out the door with me
05:25 <CoderForLife> laterz
05:39 <Tidus> seeya
05:46 <xcamel> &ping
05:46 <Romulus> pong
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06:14 <Tidus> &pong
06:14 <Romulus> | .
06:14 <Tidus> lol
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06:38 <hawmps> wow - I didn't think the little astaro fw would be quite that spendy..
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06:47 <MadHag> anyone else having problems today with Rosetta?
06:54 <hawmps> not doing rosetta
06:55 <MadHag> something happened early this morning
06:55 <MadHag> all has stopped, site as well
06:56 <hawmps> it happens
06:57 <MadHag> but I am not earning points :)
06:57 <MadHag> points means prizes
06:57 <MadHag> lol
06:58 <MadHag> its fun overtaking people in my group
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08:34 <axxum> hello all of you
08:36 <axxum> is there everybody?
08:40 <KathrynM> hi axxum
08:43 <axxum> hello
08:44 <MadHag> yo
08:44 <KathrynM> :-)
08:45 <axxum> may i disturbing you one sec?
08:45 <KathrynM> sure
08:45 <KathrynM> I'm wasting time on Facebook before bed
08:45 <axxum> :)
08:45 <axxum> i think i have a problem with my boinc
08:46 <axxum> i have to try many times to connect the boinc server to upload the units
08:46 <axxum> after 7 - 8 times i can upload them
08:46 <axxum> is this normally?
08:47 <KathrynM> what project?
08:47 <Romulus> I guess what project are we talking about, KathrynM
08:47 <KathrynM> oh rommie, shut up you stupid bot
08:47 <axxum> seti and einstein
08:47 <axxum> both do same
08:48 <KathrynM> Can be common on Seti, but not so much on Einstein
08:48 <KathrynM> what is the error message in the manager?
08:48 <axxum> nothing
08:48 <KathrynM> in the message tab if in advanced view
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08:48 <axxum> absolutely nothing
08:49 <KathrynM> Fri 26 Sep 2008 07:18:14 PM KST|geneticlife@home|Backing off 49 min 34 sec on upload of sim_V157_c12345_s8k_tm10k50_xm30k_r10k_sm63_cm40_im45_C0_2_0
08:49 <KathrynM> Fri 26 Sep 2008 07:18:17 PM KST||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
08:49 <KathrynM> nothing like that?
08:49 <axxum> before now i used boinc on linux
08:49 <KathrynM> now Windows?
08:49 <axxum> now i am working on win
08:49 <KathrynM> what version of BOINC?
08:50 <axxum> 6.2.18
08:50 <KathrynM> I'm on Linux and have very little experience with the problems for v6 on Windows
08:50 <KathrynM> can you try updating to .19?
08:50 <axxum> for win?
08:50 <KathrynM> I don't even know where stdout.txt is kept these days
08:50 <KathrynM> yes, for win
08:51 <axxum> ok, i will try
08:51 <axxum> thanks a lot
08:51 <axxum> :)
08:51 <KathrynM> no problem
08:51 <KathrynM> it probably won't help because there haven't been changes to curl and the like lately
08:51 <KathrynM> you could also revert to 5.10.45 and see if that helps
08:51 <axxum> aha
08:52 <axxum> ok, i'll try
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09:20 <hawmps> &wx 12020
09:20 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 53.1°F / 11.7°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Rain. Highs around 60. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain. Rain may be heavy at times. Near steady temperature in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain near (1 more message)
09:21 <hawmps> &more
09:21 <Romulus> hawmps: 100 percent.; Saturday - Rain. Rain may be heavy at times. Not as cool with highs in the lower 70s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2008;
09:21 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319
09:21 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 61.8°F / 16.6°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the lower 80s. South wind near 10 mph increasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 50s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly (1 more message)
09:21 <wdsmia_w> &more
09:21 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: sunny. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High around 80. West wind around 5 mph shifting to the northwest in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.;
09:25 <MadHag> rosetta still down
09:31 <yoyo[work]> &weather berlin, germany
09:31 <Romulus> yoyo[!@#&]: Temperature: 63Â°F / 17Â°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.54in / 1034hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 3:20 PM CEST; Clear. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Clear. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Clear. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Overcast. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.;
09:31 <yoyo[work]> &help
09:31 <Romulus> yoyo[!@#&]: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
09:31 <yoyo[work]> &help wx
09:31 <Romulus> yoyo[!@#&]: (wx <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "weather $1 $*".
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09:44 <hawmps> lol
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10:37 <hawmps> lol
10:38 <hawmps> mousewatch..
11:00 <KathrynM> &nn
11:00 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
11:06 <hawmps> must see:
11:06 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis? (at www.youtube.com)
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16:01 <xcamel> &ping
16:01 <Romulus> pong
16:02 <efc> moo xcamel
16:03 <bigt0242000> how's it?
16:03 <efc> napped most of the afternoon here
16:04 <xcamel> rainy - which is good.
16:04 <xcamel> we needed it.
16:05 <Romulus> Title: Robotics Institute Seminar Live Webcast (at www.cs.cmu.edu)
16:05 <bigt0242000> could you send a little my way?
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16:09 <zombie67> heh
16:09 <zombie67> BOINCstats is currently down because the server is overloaded.
16:09 <zombie67> Current load: 50.49
16:09 <zombie67> Normal operation will resume when the load falls below 50.
16:09 <zombie67> Sorry for the inconvenience.
16:09 <zombie67> Willy
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16:10 <bigt0242000> hmm... I was just on it
16:34 <PovAddict> that's some insane load
16:35 <efc> sounds like stuck processes
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16:44 <CoderForLife> greetings any and all
16:44 <efc> moo
16:45 <xcamel_> greetings
16:45 <bigt0242000> hi ya
16:45 <wdsmia_w> *lo Don ...Bye Don bbiab
16:45 <CoderForLife> hey efc xcamel_ bigt0242000 Doug
16:47 <xcamel_> hoping to get my real addys sometime today
16:47 <bigt0242000> still having issues?
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16:47 <CoderForLife> on a Friday afternoon, xcamel?
16:48 <xcamel> yeah.. I know...
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16:49 <xcamel> they're supposed to be able to do it remotely
16:50 <CoderForLife> hopefully from wirelessly outside in the nice weather
16:51 <xcamel> not wireless
16:51 <bigt0242000> so it wasn't a pix issue?
16:53 <CoderForLife> pix, as in Pix firewall?
16:53 <PovAddict> yes
16:53 <bigt0242000> cisco pix
16:53 <xcamel> nope - not the pix
16:54 <xcamel> complete FUBAR thanks to RR.BIZ
16:54 <bigt0242000> ouch
16:54 <xcamel> uh-huh
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16:55 <PovAddict> hmm
16:55 <PovAddict> &ping
16:55 <Romulus> pong
16:55 <bigt0242000> couldn't you setup a temp dynamic dns address?
16:55 <PovAddict> his domain works fine, as it resolved to the correct IP
16:56 <bigt0242000> but the ip is wrong
16:56 <bigt0242000> i tried the url and ip address and couldn't get there
16:57 <efc> Did we ever get Tidus's BOINC connected on his Mac?
16:59 <bigt0242000> I don't do Macs
17:00 <PovAddict> bigt0242000: exactly, even with the IP it doesn't work, so the problem isn't that :P
17:00 <PovAddict> efc: I think not
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17:05 <bigt0242000> xcamel: why is your ip for your mail server in a different range than your web server?
17:06 <xcamel> shouldn't be..
17:07 <bigt0242000> it is according to a whois lookup
17:07 <xcamel> lemme look - might be a typo
17:08 <bigt0242000> your in the 208 range. your mail server is in the 68 range.
17:08 <bigt0242000> 67*
17:08 <xcamel> that's the old addy.. hmmmm...
17:08 <xcamel> who's whois?
17:08 <PovAddict> did you update the MX record too?
17:09 <xcamel> yeah..
17:09 <xcamel> what whois did you use?
17:09 <Romulus> Title: Lledgerock.com - l Ledge Rock (at whois.domaintools.com)
17:09 <xcamel> mail.lledgerock.com. 7200 IN A 18.104.22.168
17:09 <xcamel> it's correct here..
17:10 <Romulus> Title: Whois record for 22.214.171.124 (at whois.domaintools.com)
17:11 <xcamel> DT isn't realtime..
17:11 <CoderForLife> did you update the authoritative DNS, and set it to a shorter replication cycle to push out the change?
17:11 <xcamel> try it via dig.
17:13 <xcamel> like I said before - total FUBAR
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17:16 <bigt0242000> lol
17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:25 <bigt0242000> hey
17:33 <CoderForLife> hold onto your hats: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428849,00.html
17:35 <xcamel> lol - "Earth Flips Us Off!"
17:37 * Soul_keeper i a picture story reader
17:37 <Soul_keeper> is*
17:44 <PovAddict> what the
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17:50 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn
17:50 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
17:51 <efc> i read a theory a while back that the earth's magnetic field is generated by uranium in the core and that it was just about fissioned out
17:51 <efc> kinda far out there..
17:53 <Rookie_69> Waiting to see what Kyle turns into before deciding whether to race sunday or not...
17:53 <Rookie_69> I thought it was blamed on all the iron in the core.
17:54 <efc> thats the accepted theory
17:56 <Rookie_69> I've never had the opportunity to test the magnetic properties of uranium before.
17:56 <efc> maybe it was the fission keeping the core hot enough to generate the fields, i dunno
17:58 <efc> wow, am I really seeing this? High Definition Sunglasses
17:59 <PovAddict> o_O
17:59 <PovAddict> "This is HDTV. It's got better resolution than the real world".
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17:59 * KathrynM yawns
17:59 <efc> they're called 'high definition wrap-arounds' really, that sounds bad
17:59 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM - hap Sat
18:00 * xcamel also yawns
18:00 <CoderForLife> TGIF xcamel
18:00 <KathrynM> yes indeed
18:00 <efc> the kind of stuff they run on RFDTV
18:00 <xcamel> indeed
18:01 <PovAddict> ditto on TGIF
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18:11 <xcamel> well.. rain over for a bit..
18:11 <KathrynM> clear and cool here
18:11 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan
18:11 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 52Â°F / 11Â°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Clear. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Overcast. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 ° (1 more message)
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18:19 <CoderForLife> cear and clool here
18:20 <MTughan> clool?
18:20 <Rookie_69> Cear?
18:20 <wdsmia> clooless
18:20 <KathrynM> l's cropping up everywhere
18:20 <MTughan> lol, I missed that first one...
18:20 <KathrynM> migrating l's?
18:20 <CoderForLife> not clear, not cool
18:21 <CoderForLife> cear and clool
18:21 <KathrynM> :)
18:21 <CoderForLife> at least that woke everyone up =)
18:21 <MTughan> 3.
18:21 <MTughan> Wrong channel...
18:22 <MTughan> Oh well, random 3's now!
18:22 * CoderForLife has the job in #boinc to provide periodic entertainment
18:22 <xcamel> "3" is not random..
18:22 <CoderForLife> 4 is random
18:22 <MTughan> xcamel: Any absolute number is not random. CFL is.
18:23 <KathrynM> You want random? Come to Korea
18:23 <KathrynM> the whole country is frigging random
18:23 <KathrynM> It's so random that the randomness is predictable
18:23 <MTughan> Different culture, not necessarily random.
18:23 <KathrynM> no. random
18:23 <xcamel> fractal chaos..
18:23 <KathrynM> lol
18:23 <CoderForLife> I aM N0t RaNd0M
18:23 <MTughan> Hardly random if it's predictable.
18:24 <KathrynM> the randomness no longer surprises me
18:26 <bigt0242000> lol
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18:27 <CoderForLife> on a more serious note, df on my dev Linux box shows root at 98% in use
18:27 <KathrynM> eek
18:27 <KathrynM> Pov introduced me to the fun of ddate
18:28 <CoderForLife> using JDiskReport to try to get some pie charts to find what's eating disk space
18:29 <CoderForLife> any better strategy for finding where the disk went?
18:29 <xcamel> fsview..
18:30 <KathrynM> Because I know next to nothing of fun stuff like JDisk, I'd do a quick glance using ls
18:30 <KathrynM> to see if anything stuck out
18:30 <KathrynM> ls -hl?
18:31 <KathrynM> then I'd start panicking :)
18:32 <xcamel> Kdirstat
18:34 <PovAddict> kdirstat rocks
18:35 <CoderForLife> I'll have to run that downstairs
18:35 <CoderForLife> JDiskReport just finished on /var
18:37 <CoderForLife> ah - there's one issue
18:42 * CoderForLife removes F9 network install directory from server
18:45 <xcamel> lol - Nazi Pelosivitch
18:45 <xcamel> Farny Prank
18:46 <xcamel> Crass Scrod
18:46 <xcamel> Charly Skruumer
18:47 <xcamel> Cast of "The life and times of Ben Dova"
18:47 <CoderForLife> lol
18:48 <CoderForLife> I sent Boehner there to keep things on track
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18:51 <CoderForLife> brb
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18:52 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis? (at www.youtube.com)
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19:15 <CoderForLife> got up at 3:45am, going to go lay down
19:15 <CoderForLife> gn all
19:15 <wdsmia> cya
19:15 <bigt0242000> c ya
19:16 <KathrynM> nighty night
19:19 <xcamel> laterz..
19:19 <wdsmia> cya
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19:31 <xcamel> 'lo BB
19:31 <bigt0242000> hey BadBarbarian
19:32 <BadBarbarian> hi there
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19:49 <Rookie_69> Boo.
19:50 <Rookie_69> ... I mean Bedtime...
19:50 <Rookie_69> NN.
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19:52 <xcamel> lol
19:53 <wdsmia> *lo Jay 13M ;)
19:53 <xcamel> 13M?
19:53 <xcamel> oh..
19:55 <wdsmia> turned off PG and turned on MW so the race is on to 1M ;)
19:56 <PovAddict> I'm doing Spinhenge on all machine atm
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19:58 <wdsmia> thats nice PovAddict
19:58 <PovAddict> installed BOINC on three computers at w$%&
19:59 <wdsmia> wish I could do that would 10x my credit
19:59 <PovAddict> it's not like they care about the software running on them...
19:59 <PovAddict> I don't think any has a legal copy of Windows btw
19:59 <Soul_keeper> be carefull
20:00 <Soul_keeper> corporations are known to sue employees for that
20:00 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
20:00 <wdsmia> or just fire them
20:00 <PovAddict> yeah right
20:00 <xcamel> or both
20:00 <wdsmia> yep
20:01 <PovAddict> last week me and another guy were trying to get around yet another activation problem on the pirated Windows 2003 on the server...
20:01 <PovAddict> you really think they'd care about BOINC? :P
20:02 <Soul_keeper> not if you got dirt on them :)
20:03 <PovAddict> I mean, they don't care about installing WGA cracks on the *server* (which hosts Active Directory, DHCP, DNS, mailserver, and probably something else), why'd they care about me installing BOINC on my machine and on two others that nobody's currently using
20:04 <PovAddict> if I were them I'd worry more about the crack program screwing up the server than about BOINC screwing up an otherwise-unused desktop machine
20:05 <wdsmia> you can tell them that when you own the company till them you work on there wim
20:15 <efc> &math convert 3.8 miles to km
20:15 <Romulus> efc: 6.1155072
20:15 <efc> 29:04
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20:27 <efc> will pay for it tommorrow..
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20:35 <wdsmia> @eddie I used to run like that... but that was almost 30 years ago and had a big nasty army DI chasing me
20:36 <efc> I'd prefer a 20 year old blond college track team instructor, but to each his own..
20:36 <wdsmia> lol
20:37 * wdsmia has socks older then 20 years
20:38 <efc> dad claims he was running 6 min miles in the army but I don't believe it..
20:39 <Romulus> Title: Georeactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
20:39 <wdsmia> not in full pack
20:41 <efc> I could probably run a 6 if not making it meant a tour in 'Nam
20:42 <efc> but under more reasonable circumstances I run a 7
20:42 <efc> but with aforementioned blond 20 year old pacing me, could probably do a few notches better than that
20:45 <wdsmia> lol
20:48 <efc> hard to figure out what pace will just barely not kill me
20:48 <wdsmia> that would be a 1 hr mile for me lol
20:49 <wdsmia> of cource that towing the cart with the keg
20:52 <efc> Alternate fuels: Beer
20:52 <wdsmia> when running you need them carbs
20:56 <efc> "OSP/ISP Engineer (Afghanistan) position posted on the DTN" Yeah I'm gonna jump all over that one
20:59 <wdsmia> whats the money?
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21:01 <efc> No word. It would have to be pretty crazy..
21:01 <efc> Or, they could give me totally cool weapons
21:02 <wdsmia> Im sure I have been shot at for a shit load less
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21:09 <efc> sounds like a IT mercenary type company
21:18 * Soul_keeper is watching the presidential debates
21:19 <PovAddict> I think my parents are too
21:20 <Soul_keeper> your parents sound like excellent citizens
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21:27 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: we aren't in the US :P
21:27 <PovAddict> my mom mentioned something about being jealous of the kind of debates candidates have there
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21:27 <PovAddict> compared to presidential candidates over here
21:27 <Soul_keeper> ic, you're that guy in argentina then ?
21:27 <PovAddict> yeh
21:28 <bigt0242000> well it would be better if ALL the candidates were there
21:28 <Soul_keeper> it's too late for that
21:29 <Soul_keeper> they didn't want ron paul :(
21:29 <bigt0242000> to late for what?
21:29 <Soul_keeper> already had the primaries
21:29 <Soul_keeper> you mean 3rd party candidates ?
21:29 <bigt0242000> yes
21:31 <bigt0242000> esp. nader from the independent and barr from the libertarian party
21:32 <Soul_keeper> ron paul used to be with the libertarian party, he jumped ship tho to try to get elected
21:32 <bigt0242000> yep now he is supporting barr
21:33 <Soul_keeper> he wanted to take back the republican party and return them to their conservative roots i suppose
21:35 <bigt0242000> i don't care for either candidates on tv right now
21:35 <Soul_keeper> i'm voting mccain, obama is way too left, and has a lot of dirt on him
21:36 <bigt0242000> all they're doing is blowing smoke
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21:37 <bigt0242000> Missed Votes 24% (306) Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL] since Jan 6, 2005. Ouch!
21:38 <bigt0242000> Missed Votes 18% (738) Sen. John McCain [R-AZ] since Feb 4, 1993. Not to bad.
21:39 <Soul_keeper> obama just shows up and votes "present"
21:39 <Soul_keeper> he's done that a few hundred times, can't decide between yes or no
21:39 <bigt0242000> present and no vote shouldn't even be an option
21:40 <quail> morning all
21:40 <bigt0242000> good evening
21:41 <PovAddict> xcamel: I *just* got a message saying my test email to you couldn't be delivered yet, and that it will try for two more days
21:41 <bigt0242000> XD
21:41 <bigt0242000> never got one back that said it would try for 2 more days
21:42 <PovAddict> if it's a temporary failure, you get one of those after 24 hours
21:42 <PovAddict> then after the 2 days pass, you get another saying basically "message still didn't get through, giving up"
21:42 <bigt0242000> the ones I get back says the postmaster couldn't deliver
21:43 <PovAddict> that's a permanent failure, server gives up immediately
21:47 <bigt0242000> Soul_keeper: lol this is suprising. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2008-592
21:47 <bigt0242000> a motion to leave: FAILED
21:55 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - What if Firefighters Ran the World? (at www.youtube.com)
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21:56 <Soul_keeper> i saw that on tv the other week
21:56 <bigt0242000> lol
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21:58 <bigt0242000> would it be considered spam if i sent that to 553 people?
21:58 <PovAddict> depends who those people are
21:59 <bigt0242000> congressmen and women
21:59 <bigt0242000> maybe it'll get the "do nothing" congress off the butts and do something useful
22:00 <PovAddict> go ahead then
22:00 <bigt0242000> lol
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22:44 <bigt0242000> Soul_keeper: well I know just about as much of where they stand as I did before the debate
22:44 <wdsmia> wish we had a good choice
22:44 <Soul_keeper> yeah nothing new
22:44 <bigt0242000> lol
22:45 <Soul_keeper> palen will make everything alright :)
22:45 <Soul_keeper> palin*
22:45 <bigt0242000> lol
22:45 <bigt0242000> what's not to like about a good looking hockey mom?
22:46 <Soul_keeper> i think she's the best option out of all 4 of these clowns
22:46 <bigt0242000> lol
22:46 <wdsmia> damn Soul_keeper I have new respect for you
22:47 <Soul_keeper> but i trust mccain a lot more than obama, he's "the comfortable old shoe"
22:47 <wdsmia> Palin 2012
22:47 <bigt0242000> mccain will get elected, kick the bucket, then palin takes office
22:47 <Soul_keeper> :)
22:47 <MTughan> I think I'd rather have Bush than Palin...
22:48 <MTughan> And I'm not even American!
22:48 <bigt0242000> i guess they trying to make the US government look better
22:48 <PovAddict> seen on a forum sig: "Canadians are unarmed Americans with free health care"
22:49 <Soul_keeper> lol
22:49 <MTughan> And a hell of a lot more compassion and understanding.
22:49 <Soul_keeper> they are our liberal buddies from the north
22:49 <Soul_keeper> :)
22:49 <bigt0242000> lol
22:49 <MTughan> US just tried to force their politics on everyone. We accept them as they come.
22:49 <MTughan> tries*
22:49 <MTughan> Need present, not past tense...
22:50 <PovAddict> MTughan: one could say "unarmed" is related to "more compassion and understanding" ;)
22:50 <MTughan> And I don't care if everyone here starts hating my ass. :P
22:50 <bigt0242000> well we american try to accept them too
22:50 <MTughan> bigt0242000: But don't you make them American rather than letting them separate into sections?
22:50 <MTughan> At least that's what I've heard, with the "melting pot".
22:51 <bigt0242000> we need term limits on congress
22:51 * PovAddict curses the word "American"
22:51 <bigt0242000> MTughan: well we're kinda split into 3 sections now
22:52 <MTughan> Heh... Any coincidence that I'm listening to "Revolution" by P.O.D.?
22:52 <bigt0242000> PovAddict: lol
22:52 <PovAddict> America is a damned CONTINENT
22:52 <MTughan> Two, actually.
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22:52 <PovAddict> whatever; point is it's not the US alone
22:53 <MTughan> No, North and South America? Notice the AMERICA in there?
22:53 <bigt0242000> MTughan: Far Left, Far Right, and everybody else
22:53 <bigt0242000> MTughan: you forgot central america
22:53 <PovAddict> well okay, let's count them separated
22:53 <MTughan> Isn't McCain more left/right than the rest of his party? (I can't keep left and right straight anymore...)
22:53 <MTughan> bigt0242000: Technically, that's North America.
22:53 <PovAddict> you're in North America too
22:53 <bigt0242000> i know im in north america
22:54 <bigt0242000> i live in the SE US
22:54 * wdsmia thinks MTughan would vote for doug and bob mckenzie
22:54 <MTughan> I can technically say that Pov is north of me... :P
22:54 <Soul_keeper> MTughan any coincidence that POD came from my city ... and so did blink 182 that crashed recently ?
22:54 <MTughan> wdsmia: Yeah, eh? Gotta love those two... :D
22:54 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: LA? I don't remember where POD came from now...
22:54 <Soul_keeper> san diego
22:55 <MTughan> Yeah, Wiki verifies.
22:55 <Soul_keeper> heh
22:55 * PovAddict notes the US demonym in Spanish literally translated back to English would be something like "unitedstatian"
22:55 <Romulus> Title: GovTrack: The Political Spectrum (at www.govtrack.us)
22:56 <MTughan> Wow, what a mess... That like your politics? xD
22:56 <bigt0242000> yep. that's why it's called the "do nothing" congress
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22:57 <MTughan> lol, I believe it.
22:58 <bigt0242000> my rep and 2 sens do a decent job
22:58 <MTughan> That's all you can really guarantee. When is your election?
22:59 <bigt0242000> Nov
22:59 <MTughan> Seems like our election will be called and over in less than half the time yours took... :P
23:02 <MTughan> Yep, called September 7th, we're going to the polls on October 14th.
23:02 <bigt0242000> polls are open for 12 hrs takes about a day for all the result to come in. then it's decided unless we have another florida type problem.
23:02 <PovAddict> and you get to vote MTughan?
23:02 <MTughan> Basically 6 and a half weeks.
23:02 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yes. First time.
23:02 <MTughan> bigt0242000: lol, that was Gore and Bush, 2000, right?
23:02 <bigt0242000> yep and again in 2004
23:03 <MTughan> Although Kerry there.
23:03 <bigt0242000> hanging chads i think they called them
23:03 <MTughan> I don't remember hearing about problems in Florida that election...
23:03 <PovAddict> I remember a reporter of a local news program
23:04 <PovAddict> running inside the White House saying "here we are... before the poll for the President... of the World"
23:04 <MTughan> lol...
23:04 <bigt0242000> paper ballots caused issues in 2000, electronic voting machines caused issues in 2004, and i'm guessing both will cause issues this go round
23:05 <wdsmia> count on it
23:06 <wdsmia> been a long week NN all
23:07 <bigt0242000> all the courts had to do was force the voting machine companies to release there souce code. then we would more than likely have a smoother election
23:08 <PovAddict> could be completely legitimate software, but with the database tinkered with after the voting... hard to track that down
23:09 <bigt0242000> well its hard for the entries in the software to make it to the db if the software enters null entries or crashes
23:09 <MTughan> Oh yeah... Did you know that we have a Marijuana party here? Only thing they want to do: legalize marijuana. xD
23:09 <bigt0242000> we have a green party and i have no idea what they want to do
23:15 <Soul_keeper> tree huggers
23:15 <Soul_keeper> their main goal is extermination of the 2 party system, beyond that i doubt they even know what they want
23:16 <bigt0242000> lol
23:17 <PovAddict> in some IRC channel about a programming language (dont remember which), they mentioned some framework, I asked what it was about, and they told me "I think they're still debating that"
23:17 <Soul_keeper> figures
23:17 <bigt0242000> XD
23:29 <bigt0242000> can holloywood make anything more boring? come on a movie about a guy who invented the intermitin windshield wiper
23:30 <Soul_keeper> hmmm that former nsync guy is singing country now ...
23:30 <bigt0242000> so is jessica simpson
23:36 <bigt0242000> hollywood is desprate. they made a movie about bush.
23:36 <Soul_keeper> yeah
23:37 <Soul_keeper> they want as much money as they can get to advance their agendas
23:38 <bigt0242000> Soul_keeper: which news station are you watching?
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23:54 <Soul_keeper> bigt0242000, watching cmt now ...
23:55 <bigt0242000> eww
23:57 <Soul_keeper> yeah no hot chicks singing it seems
23:58 <bigt0242000> i'm watching cnn