IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-09-27

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04:19 * CoderForLife yawns

04:20 <CoderForLife> brb

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04:38 <KathrynM> morning to my favorite coder :-)

04:49 <CoderForLife> Good Morning Ms ESL =)

04:49 <KathrynM> :)

04:51 * CoderForLife pays the bills

04:52 * CoderForLife also pays the toms, dicks and harrys

04:52 * KathrynM eats dinner

04:52 <CoderForLife> got the final invoice from the wall contractor

04:53 <KathrynM> ouch

04:53 <CoderForLife> especially when it had line items that he said he was going to take care of

04:53 <KathrynM> grrrrrrrrrrrr

04:54 <CoderForLife> we had a rather elevated discussion on the phone

04:54 <KathrynM> I'm sure you did

04:55 <CoderForLife> so why would he call me for a approval of a variance of $250, and then surprise me with a line item of $1100?

04:55 <KathrynM> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

04:55 * KathrynM picks jaw up off the desk

04:56 <CoderForLife> need a screwdriver?

04:57 <KathrynM> nah, I shoved it back into place

04:58 <CoderForLife> final check will be nearly $17,500

04:58 <KathrynM> that pains me

04:58 <CoderForLife> you?!

04:58 <Romulus> It has been said that you are upper fayl, CoderForLife

04:58 <KathrynM> lol

04:58 <KathrynM> It must be excruciating pain for you

04:58 <CoderForLife> &forget you

04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: There is no such factoid.

04:59 <KathrynM> someone broke rommie

04:59 <CoderForLife> hmm

05:00 * CoderForLife pays the credit card bill

05:00 <CoderForLife> we have our first post-wall party tomorrow

05:00 <KathrynM> nice

05:00 <KathrynM> any chinese coming?

05:01 <CoderForLife> we didn't get quite so far as to become friends

05:01 <KathrynM> oh well

05:01 <CoderForLife> it's actually a birthday party, more than a wall party

05:02 <KathrynM> who's b-day?

05:02 <CoderForLife> mine and my father-in-law

05:03 <CoderForLife> both born on the 28th, albeit a number of years apart

05:04 <KathrynM> cool

05:04 <KathrynM> happy birthday!

05:04 <CoderForLife> thanks!

05:04 <CoderForLife> everyone basically forgot my birthday last year

05:05 <CoderForLife> but of course I never think about that

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05:06 <KathrynM> I try not to acknowledge mine

05:06 <CoderForLife> your what?

05:07 <KathrynM> birthday

05:07 <CoderForLife> gotcha

05:13 <Tidus> hi CoderForLife

05:13 <CoderForLife> hi Tidus

05:14 <Tidus> CoderForLife: http://tidus.alive-awake.com/photos/?Qwd=./Screenshots/OSX&Qif=20080922_0856.png&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M clicky

05:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3vcqv2> (at tidus.alive-awake.com)

05:15 <CoderForLife> nice

05:15 <Tidus> notice the system info part? a.k.a. not a real mac? :P{

05:16 <CoderForLife> Mac on Intel

05:16 <Tidus> no... OSX on my wal-mart bought compaq :P

05:16 <CoderForLife> ah  congrats

05:18 <Tidus> yeah... so how's life in the coder's world?

05:21 <CoderForLife> need to get some Coding focus time back - been doing lots of other things

05:22 <Tidus> yeah, lol. oh, by the way.

05:22 <Tidus> did you hear they're shrinking monitor height again on laptops?

05:22 <Tidus> most of them nowadays come with a 16:10 screen

05:22 <CoderForLife> too bad

05:22 <Tidus> but now since they seen that "most people use them for entertainment and viewing of high definition content" they're shrinking the height to 16x9

05:23 <Tidus> cutting them the same way that an HDTV is

05:23 <CoderForLife> not good for Coding

05:23 <KathrynM> not good for doing, ya know, actual work, either

05:23 <Tidus> i like my 16:10 lcd on the desktop.  it gives me enough width to watch a movie at a decent size and run apps side by side, but enough height that i'm not seriously cramped

05:23 <CoderForLife> my desktop here has 2 19" panels, both rotated into portrait mode

05:24 <CoderForLife> I can get two "full size sheets of paper" side-by-side

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05:24 <Tidus> i wish my widescreen could be rotated into portrait mode

05:25 <Tidus> 10:16 :P

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05:25 <Tidus> 1050x1600 resolution

05:25 <Tidus> enough height for a bit more than a sheet of paper on the screen at once

05:25 <Tidus> right now i can get two full size sheets of paper side by side at 100% magnification

05:26 <CoderForLife> brb

05:26 <Tidus> k

05:37 <CoderForLife> b

05:39 <Tidus> wb

05:39 <CoderForLife> thx

05:39 <CoderForLife> http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/26/1457536.aspx

05:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/43agpf> (at cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com)

05:40 <CoderForLife> "Doomsday Lawsuit Dismissed"

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05:45 <Tidus> lol

05:49 <KathrynM> I love spam subject headings

05:49 <KathrynM> 'Caution: Rabbit Crossing Ahead, Encounters May Cause Screaming O's'

05:49 <Tidus> lol

05:50 <KathrynM> oh nice

05:50 <KathrynM> I sent in a ticket that a website didn't work for me.  They sent me back a list of approved browsers, which includes FF2.  Funny, I use FF2

05:50 <Tidus> not going to say what popped into my head (gutterbrained at the moment) about the "screaming O"

05:50 <KathrynM> Must be the Windows version of FF2

05:50 <KathrynM> grrrrrrrrrrr

05:52 <CoderForLife> hmm

05:52 <KathrynM> let's see if the site will work today

05:52 <CoderForLife> just because it's "approved" doesn't mean it works

05:52 <KathrynM> yup.  just a glitch in the internet

05:53 <KathrynM> but damn it, read what I wrote to begin with.  I told them my OS *and* browser+version

05:53 <CoderForLife> life is unfair

05:54 <KathrynM> whhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

05:54 <CoderForLife> lol

05:54 <Tidus> what site is it, KathrynM

05:54 <KathrynM> pillsbury.com

05:54 <Tidus> OSX and FF3 here...

05:54 <CoderForLife> lol

05:54 <KathrynM> shut up :-P

05:54 <CoderForLife> lol

05:54 <Tidus> works perfectly

05:54 <KathrynM> I was having trouble adding to my recipe box

05:55 <KathrynM> it works fine now

05:55 * CoderForLife holds his side

05:55 <KathrynM> sheesh.  is this what happens when a gal hangs out in a geek channel?

05:55 <KathrynM> :-)

05:55 <Tidus> yeah :)

05:56 <KathrynM> lol

06:05 <CoderForLife> got to go to the store - bbl

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06:31 <NewOrleans> Good morning,afternoon,evening,night.......

06:31 <NewOrleans> lol

06:31 <paul_b> morning

06:31 <KathrynM> hiya

06:31 <NewOrleans> :)

06:32 <paul_b> you from nola?

06:32 <NewOrleans> Yep.....

06:32 <paul_b> BR here

06:33 <paul_b> didn't know boinc worked down here

06:33 <paul_b> heh

06:33 <NewOrleans> Cool..... I just use boinc for seti here......  I dunno, I just don't like the other projects... Its like mixing corn and peas for me...

06:33 <NewOrleans> n5zow I am on seti

06:34 <paul_b> started with seti since almost from the start, went with boinc and migrated to all other projects

06:35 <NewOrleans> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=77571     I have thought of other projects but there are so damn many.....

06:35 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3ox3et> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

06:35 <paul_b> currently going around to new projects with a handful of team members and giving the new projects a workout

06:36 <KathrynM> Einstein is a great project.

06:36 <KathrynM> One of my favorites.

06:36 <NewOrleans> I am up a bit early here. I am watching to see if my boas are getting busy.....

06:39 <paul_b> restless night here

06:39 <paul_b> good nap later though!

06:41 <NewOrleans> oh yeah

06:41 <NewOrleans> heh

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06:59 <Tidus> i normally run seti, cpdn, and einstein

07:01 <NewOrleans> Thanks for the friend invite paul_b  Us ugly peeps need lots of friends..... lol

07:02 <paul_b> np

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08:40 <wdsmia> &quiet

08:40 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

08:41 <Tidus> heh

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08:41 <Tidus> &coffee

08:41 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

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08:46 <NewOrleans> Hmmmmm

08:46 <NewOrleans> I need another coke plus.....

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08:52 <NewOrleans> Hmmmmm

08:52 <NewOrleans> I used to hate the revolving door.....

08:52 <Tidus> in, and out

08:52 <Tidus> in, and out

08:52 <Tidus> make up yer mind already!@

08:52 <NewOrleans> yeah

08:52 <NewOrleans> lol

08:59 <xcamel> 'lo

08:59 <NewOrleans> Damn astropulse

08:59 <NewOrleans> heh

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09:00 <NewOrleans> Jeeeeze

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09:01 <Tidus> la da de da, inoutinoutinout

09:01 <xcamel> gone now

09:02 <NewOrleans> I was getting dizzy

09:02 <NewOrleans> lol

09:03 <NewOrleans> Anyone else have one of these?

09:03 <KathrynM> gonna try out the XO live CD and see how it likes my hardware.

09:03 <KathrynM> bbl

09:03 <NewOrleans> Download Speed: 28839 kbps (3604.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

09:03 <NewOrleans> Upload Speed: 3569 kbps (446.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

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09:05 <Tidus> mine aint that good :(

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09:26 <xcamel> hmm.. 7175KB/s down 1523 up

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09:33 <NewOrleans> I have a commercial connection.....  15 down and 1.5 up..... I usually get more than advertized.....

09:33 <Tidus> i have 9/.75

09:33 <Tidus> but it spikes to about 25/3

09:33 <Tidus> especially later at nigiht

09:33 <Tidus> night *

09:33 <NewOrleans> Still good..... and I bet you don't pay 99 a month.....

09:33 <Tidus> no, i pay about US$45

09:34 <NewOrleans> cool

09:35 <Tidus> i'm with Cox Communications... and the particular package i have has a feature called speedbooster.  Basically, when there's a bit of spare bandwidth available, my modem will uncap

09:35 <Tidus> and it'll let me run whatever my equipment is capable of going until the demand for bandwidth by other users increases

09:36 <NewOrleans> Same here..... I am on a business connection..... I can do mostly what I like and they don't mess with me....

09:36 <Tidus> i regularly go thru about 60gb a month :)

09:36 <Tidus> they dont bother me a bit

09:36 <xcamel> that's what I was supposed to get...

09:36 <NewOrleans> Yeah, I am rather happy

09:37 <Tidus> but there's times in the middle of the night i can hold a sustained download of ~2.25MBytes/sec

09:37 <Tidus> for an hour or more

09:37 <xcamel> 15d/4.5u

09:37 <NewOrleans> nice

09:37 <Tidus> xcamel: i'm guaranteed 9M/768K

09:37 <xcamel> was on a T1

09:38 <Tidus> just if nobody else in my general area is using theirs, my package allows my modem to uncap and run free

09:39 <xcamel> twrrbiz calls it 15x2 business class

09:39 <Tidus> Cox calls mine "Preferred with SpeedBooster"

09:39 <NewOrleans> yep

09:40 <Tidus> if i went up to Premier, i'd have 12/1 guaranteed with the ability to uncap

09:40 <xcamel> not sure if this cable router/modem has more than one chip in it...

09:41 <Tidus> right now since it's the start of the business day here for me, they're only allowing uncap for me on the upload side right now

09:42 <Tidus> 52ms ping to the test server, 8537kb/s down, 2274kb/s up

09:43 <Tidus> a second test showed roughly the same download speed, but 3289kb/s up

09:44 <xcamel> using dslreports?

09:44 <Tidus> speedtest.net

09:44 <Tidus> testing to whichever one they called the "recommended server"

09:45 <Tidus> testing to my old standby server, Speakeasy in Chicago, IL, i got 52ms ping, 13801kb/s down, 3420kb/s up

09:45 <xcamel> 8461/1616

09:46 <Tidus> and i see why the discrepancy

09:46 <Tidus> there's spare bandwidth now, so it uncapped download as well

09:46 <xcamel> speakeasy 9272/1762

09:47 <xcamel> ping @ 69

09:47 <Tidus> testing to recommended, which for me is springfield, MO, (test #3 to that server, btw) i got 53 ping, 11675/3190

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09:47 <Tidus> not bad for a 9/768k package eh?

09:47 <Tidus> :P

09:48 <xcamel> using recommended was slower

09:48 <Tidus> they base recommended on distance from you to the closest one (based on geographically locating your IP, somehow)

09:49 <NewOrleans> Speakeasy Chicago server I am in NewOrleans.......

09:49 <NewOrleans> Download Speed: 24448 kbps (3056 KB/sec transfer rate)

09:49 <NewOrleans> Upload Speed: 3647 kbps (455.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

09:51 <Tidus> for me on dslreports testing to fort worth i got 11074/2431

09:51 <Tidus> but speedbooster was kicking in and out for me

09:51 <Tidus> on upload

09:52 <Tidus> it'd bounce from ~730 to 2500 and back

09:57 <xcamel> speedbooster probably only works in winduhs

09:57 <Tidus> no, it's an isp thing

09:57 <xcamel> ah..

09:57 <Tidus> there's no software installed, and i'm on my mac

09:57 <xcamel> I get it

09:58 <Tidus> the cable "head end" which handles the dns and ip assignments for the area is what controls speedbooster

09:58 <Tidus> it reads how much bandwidth is available and if someone's downloading something large it'll unlock em to get it done and over with faster

09:59 <xcamel> when mine gets configured correctly, it'll be static ip's

09:59 <Tidus> even if i had static ip, the 'head end' is also the main route out

09:59 <NewOrleans> I insisted on static.....

09:59 <Tidus> mine's 'accidentally' static... hasn't changed in 6 months

09:59 <xcamel> their customer service is kinda poor though

10:00 <NewOrleans> Tidus mine was like that on residential too..... They are slow to change....

10:00 <Tidus> NewOrleans: at my last residence, i had cable net there for nearly 2 years, ip didn't change a single time the whole time i had it

10:01 <xcamel> paul newman passed away...

10:01 <Tidus> even when i reset my router

10:03 <NewOrleans> Yeah..... Same here.... Unless I left it off a few days

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10:07 <Aspin65> Boinc for Solaris?

10:08 <yoyo_RKN> yes

10:09 <KathrynM> Aspin65, http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=1219

10:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5ycpxu> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

10:09 <yoyo_RKN> http://www.dotsch.de/boinc/BOINC%20Clients.html

10:09 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Clients (at www.dotsch.de)

10:10 <Aspin65> thanks

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10:52 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080927.html

10:52 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 September 27 - M83: The Thousand Ruby Galaxy (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

10:53 <xcamel> nice..

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11:03 <xcamel> waaaay cool:

11:03 <xcamel> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7637327.stm

11:03 <Romulus> Title: BBC NEWS | UK | Pilot completes jetpack challenge (at news.bbc.co.uk)

11:05 <xcamel> JetMan!!

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11:16 <nickuwo> anyone know how to compile the fastcgi versions of the scheduler and fuh?

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11:20 <nickuwo> also - anyone know if boinc will talk to a windows mysql server?

11:26 <xcamel> &ping

11:26 <Romulus> pong

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11:42 <nickuwo> where's POVaddict when you need him...

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11:45 <CoderForLife> greetings

11:45 <nickuwo> ello

11:47 <CoderForLife> hey nickuwo

11:48 <nickuwo> hey CFL

11:48 <nickuwo> whats the word?

11:48 <nickuwo> word up? :)

11:49 <CoderForLife> the word is "identical"

11:49 <CoderForLife> people at w@#% don't understand that word

11:49 <nickuwo> mmm, interesting word...

11:50 <CoderForLife> When I say it, I mean: \ldblquote Exactly equal and alike in all respects\rdblquote

11:50 <nickuwo> no? well, in their defense there quite a few senses of that word... ahh, i c. yes work does suck :)

11:51 <CoderForLife> Here's how I use them in a sentence:

11:51 <CoderForLife> "Are the two machines identical?"

11:51 <CoderForLife> "Are the production and QA environments identical?"

11:52 <CoderForLife> invariably they answer "yes", when the answer should be "no"

11:52 <nickuwo> hehe

11:52 <xcamel> go figure

11:52 <CoderForLife> so - we're having vocabulary lessons

11:53 <CoderForLife> "Is a dual core machine identical to a machine with one core hyperthreading?"

11:53 <CoderForLife> no

11:54 <CoderForLife> "Is a machine with 2GB RAM identical to a machine with 4GB RAM?"

11:54 <CoderForLife> No

11:54 <CoderForLife> "Is a machine with a 1,4GHz processor identical to one with a 3.2 GHz processor?"

11:54 <CoderForLife> NO

11:55 * CoderForLife is upset with the "talent" at w@#%

11:56 <CoderForLife> and so, the word is "identical"

11:57 <xcamel> just can't seem to get this firewall opened back up..

11:57 <CoderForLife> ack

11:57 <CoderForLife> Cisco Pix?

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11:59 <CoderForLife> Paul Newman dead at 83

12:07 <CoderForLife> going outside to do some cleanup

12:07 <CoderForLife> bbl

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12:18 <xcamel> somebody check my website?

12:18 <xcamel> see if you canget in..

12:19 <xcamel> er get even...

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13:36 <FreeLarry58> morning all

13:37 <nickuwo> &boincerr -234

13:37 <Romulus> nickuwo: Error: I couldn't find -234 in boincerr.

13:37 <FreeLarry58> just a sad little note frm here - little one (blackie) my dog passed on yesterday while i was at w/*-

13:38 <FreeLarry58> thats a new one to me also nickuwo

13:39 <nickuwo> might be a linux error, not a boinc one... sorry about your dog :(

13:42 <FreeLarry58> yeah just a little lonesome here now

13:43 <Tank_Master> hiya nickuwo

13:43 <Tank_Master> sup fl?

13:44 <FreeLarry58> http://forum.goteamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=5985

13:44 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4khkjp> (at forum.goteamspeak.com)

13:44 <FreeLarry58> looks to be in german tho ;/

13:44 <FreeLarry58> if windoze an installer or smb error

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13:45 <FreeLarry58> not much Tank_Master

13:45 <bigt0242000> hey guys

13:45 <FreeLarry58> morn bigt0242000

13:45 <nickuwo> hey Tank

13:46 <bigt0242000> good afternoon

13:46 <FreeLarry58> will be soon enough here as i get ready for wednsday commute

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13:47 <bigt0242000> a few day ahead of yourself arent you?

13:47 <FreeLarry58> thats for the w/*-week not calendar - calendaar days off for me is tues/weds

13:49 <FreeLarry58> humm pretty sad when you have to run vista in safe mode to keep boinc running and it still locks up the machine after a few hours

13:49 <bigt0242000> hmm...

13:49 <Tank_Master> mweans its not windows thats at fault

13:50 <bigt0242000> sounds like it's running a little hot

13:50 <FreeLarry58> apears to be the new enhanced wu from seti as they complete

13:51 <FreeLarry58> cpu not getting over 60 c

13:51 <bigt0242000> I haven't had any problems with them

13:51 <FreeLarry58> actually <60

13:51 <FreeLarry58> haven't on any of my other machines eith but that vista machine never has been stable in my opine

13:52 <FreeLarry58> will replace it next year after i get rid of some of the wifes debt

13:52 <bigt0242000> lol

13:53 <FreeLarry58> well time to go and get ready for chores - tca

13:53 <bigt0242000> c ya

13:54 <Tank_Master> so, nickuwo, when does the migration start?

13:55 <nickuwo> I'm trying to get my test server to use the other DB... for some reason it's not finding it...

13:57 <nickuwo> also investigating running mysql on my windows box... then that puppy would fly

13:57 <Tank_Master> :P

13:57 <bigt0242000> no flying dogs in the house. XD

13:59 <nickuwo> hehe

13:59 <nickuwo> wow it's 1 already... hmm

14:00 <bigt0242000> it's 2pm hey

14:00 <bigt0242000> here*

14:00 <Tank_Master> 11 am here

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14:04 <nickuwo> welp, here goes nuthin

14:05 <bigt0242000> fire in the hole

14:07 <Tank_Master> boom!

14:07 <bigt0242000> take cover!

14:11 <bigt0242000> nickuwo! You there man? Speak to us! XD

14:12 <Tank_Master> MEEDDIICC!!!

14:12 <bigt0242000> XD

14:12 * nickuwo dies

14:13 <bigt0242000> :'(

14:13 <Tank_Master> LOL

14:13 <Tank_Master> can I have your comps then?

14:13 <bigt0242000> why are you asking a dead man that? XD

14:13 <nickuwo> ill trade you for a tank

14:14 <bigt0242000> Oh he's still alive

14:14 <Tank_Master> lol

14:14 <Tank_Master> no, I like me tanks

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14:30 <nickuwo> quack

14:31 <bigt0242000> &ping

14:31 <Romulus> pong

14:31 <bigt0242000> &ping

14:31 <Romulus> pong

14:31 <bigt0242000> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080926-new-clickjacking-affects-all-browsers-cause-remains-unknown.html

14:31 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4ekvw4> (at arstechnica.com)

14:39 <nickuwo> yay fcgi

15:41 <nickuwo> &boincerr -138

15:41 <Romulus> nickuwo: can't connect to database

15:41 <nickuwo> ya... hsoulda figured

15:42 <nickuwo> hmm

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15:53 <nickuwo> why can't it connect

15:53 <nickuwo> i put the info in the config.xml...

15:59 <nickuwo> gave my user access from server...

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16:32 <xcamel> re-hi

16:33 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

16:34 <CoderForLife> I'm sitting here studying credit derivatives, waiting for dinner

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16:35 <CoderForLife> speakng of credit derivatives...

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16:37 <wdsmia> new computer chair and man is it nice

16:38 <wdsmia> I like the massage feature :)

16:38 <CoderForLife> Oooooo

16:39 * CoderForLife catches a flight to Iowa

16:39 <CoderForLife> din-din  bbiab

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16:40 <xcamel> study default credit swaps or "Magic Money"

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16:45 <efc> moo

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17:27 * KathrynM yawns

17:27 <PovAddict> Three statisticians go duck hunting. Their dog chases out a duck and it starts to fly. The first statistician aims and takes his shot, and it misses a foot too high. The second statistician aims and takes his shot, and it misses a foot too low. The third statistician says, "We got him!"

17:28 <KathrynM> lol

17:28 <KathrynM> I think one of my stats profs told us that joke

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18:28 <xcamel> re-hi

18:28 <efc> moo X

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18:51 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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18:57 <xcamel> this firewall seems to have very strange mental powers...

18:57 <xcamel> it has rendered me completely unable to comprehend it

18:58 <Tank_Master> lol

19:11 <CoderForLife> re-hi

19:12 <CoderForLife> just finised putting the plastic edging along the driveway, to keep any rain from washing across the drive, and cutting ruts in the top of the hill (barren dirt/rock now)

19:13 <CoderForLife> "finised", must be French for "the ended"

19:13 * CoderForLife checks the news

19:14 <CoderForLife> no progress

19:16 <CoderForLife> lol  http://www.hairmax.com/landing_dr.aspx

19:16 <Romulus> Title: HairMax LaserComb: The First and Only Medical Laser Device Clincally Proven to Promote Hair Growth (at www.hairmax.com)

19:16 * CoderForLife empties his bank account

19:16 <PovAddict> lol

19:17 <CoderForLife> plink 85.15.207.111

19:18 <PovAddict> gonna buy it CFL?

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19:19 <CoderForLife> their shopping cart doesn't allow more than a 2 digit quantity =(

19:19 <PovAddict> they have a special offer valid for only 3 days so you should hurry :)

19:23 <xcamel> lol

19:23 <xcamel> got one that grows brains?

19:24 <CoderForLife> yes, but it has to have some material to work with to get started

19:24 <xcamel> some spare stem cells?

19:25 <CoderForLife> although clinical trials prove it to be ineffective inside the Beltwway

19:29 <FreeLarry58> CoderForLife seed the bare dirt and cover with hay - should help slow any erosion

19:29 <FreeLarry58> as for hair -- sorry no help there

19:32 <CoderForLife> how about mulch?

19:34 <FreeLarry58> depends on how fine of mulch

19:34 <CoderForLife> landscaper thought I should mulch the hillsides, and wait for spring

19:35 <CoderForLife> plant nothing

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19:39 <xcamel> nope

19:39 <xcamel> probably bounced by now..

19:39 <PovAddict> nope, final timeout is 3 days

19:39 <CoderForLife> what are the factory defaults for the Pix?  can't you reset?

19:40 <PovAddict> 22 hours ago I got a message saying "Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)"

19:40 <xcamel> port test shows all ports closed no matter what the hell I do...

19:40 <PovAddict> "The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. [mail.lledgerock.com. (10): Connection timed out]"

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19:41 <FreeLarry58> jay did you just replace a router - if so then may be the router setup not forwarding correctly

19:42 * FreeLarry58 will go away and try to get emotions back under control - dang it first time in long time they actting up

19:42 <CoderForLife> s'ok FreeLarry58

19:42 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: he changed ISP

19:46 <xcamel> naaa.. it's the stupid firewall

19:46 <CoderForLife> factory reset?

19:46 <PovAddict> bigger hammer?

19:46 <bigt0242000> lol

19:46 <CoderForLife> what are the defaults?

19:46 <xcamel> that's my last best hope..

19:47 <xcamel> pix pdm expresses everything backwards it seems

19:47 <CoderForLife> I seem to remember that complaint from my networking guys

19:48 <xcamel> make an access rule, and it blocks everything...

19:49 <PovAddict> lol

19:49 <xcamel> outbound is fine (obviously)

19:49 <CoderForLife> duh

19:49 <xcamel> and I have both static and dynamic addy's inside

19:49 <xcamel> inbound is killing me

19:50 <CoderForLife> this is what I'm running  http://www.netgear.com/Products/VPNandSSL/WiredVPNFirewallRouters/FVS338.aspx

19:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5y83h7> (at www.netgear.com)

19:50 <PovAddict> tried *not* using the firewall, to make really sure that's the problem?

19:51 <PovAddict> on the other hand, having a hardware firewall probably means you have no software firewall on the other machines, which probably means as soon as you plug yourself to the net without the hardware firewall you'll get h4xx0r3d

19:51 <CoderForLife> and how and quick

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19:52 <xcamel> egg-zactly

19:52 <CoderForLife> "tney're waiting for you"

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19:53 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

19:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.7F / 22.1C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early...then clearing. Lows in the mid 50s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. (1 more message)

19:53 <CoderForLife> &more

19:53 <CoderForLife> hmm

19:53 <PovAddict> I think it would be an interesting gambling game... connect an unpatched Windows machine to the Internets [sic] without a firewall, and ask everyone to place their bets on how much time it takes before it gets pwned

19:54 <CoderForLife> I've done that

19:54 <CoderForLife> guess how long

19:54 <PovAddict> or more than one computer... last one to die wins

19:54 <CoderForLife> it was in class, setting up a domain controller

19:54 <PovAddict> I heard you can easily get the machine totally 0wned in the time it takes for the 100+ security patches to download

19:54 <CoderForLife> true

19:55 <CoderForLife> mine got hacked in 38 seconds!

19:55 <bigt0242000> that's why you in stall a firewall before hooking it up to the network

19:55 <PovAddict> some Windows editions block all network access while updates are downloading

19:55 <CoderForLife> yes, and step the class instructor forgot

19:55 <PovAddict> server 2003

19:57 <xcamel> the cicso userguide might help..

19:58 <PovAddict> yeah... as last resort, rtfm :)

19:58 <CoderForLife> aww  read the manual?!

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20:01 <xcamel> helpful as mud

20:01 <PovAddict> told you

20:01 <PovAddict> [20:47] <PovAddict> bigger hammer?

20:01 <CoderForLife> unfortunately, I got a close look at the mud earlier

20:01 * CoderForLife hates falling

20:01 * PovAddict tries not to say "lol"

20:02 <CoderForLife> get you a different firewall xcamel

20:02 <CoderForLife> one that is easily managed

20:02 <xcamel> seven-friggin-hundred-pages...

20:03 <CoderForLife> Pix sux

20:03 <bigt0242000> I told him about astaro

20:03 <CoderForLife> mine is easy, works great

20:04 <CoderForLife> NetGear FVS338

20:05 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander away - gn all

20:05 <wdsmia> cya Don

20:05 <PovAddict> btw, remember I asked once if you knew of an app to monitor network bandwidth per machine?

20:05 <PovAddict> iftop worked great

20:06 <PovAddict> right now, for example, it shows a few bytes/second between localhost and calvino.freenode.net

20:06 <CoderForLife> thx for the update PovAddict - noted

20:06 * CoderForLife waves

20:06 <KathrynM> night

20:08 <bigt0242000> well if you have a box and a couple of nics you can give IPCop a whirl

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20:49 <xcamel> &ping

20:49 <Romulus> pong

21:12 <bigt0242000> bored?

21:12 <KathrynM> who me?

21:13 <KathrynM> :)

21:13 <KathrynM> never

21:13 <bigt0242000> lol

21:13 <KathrynM> which is why I'm listening to bad 80s music and fooling around on facebook while waiting for friends to get their acts together to go to a wedding

21:14 <KathrynM> heh..  "Eye of the Tiger"

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22:51 <efc> I think we lose perpective on how bad 80s music actually was..

22:52 <efc> Would be cool if you could buy top 100 or top 40 collections for a year. I bet its a lot different than we recall.

22:52 <bigt0242000> I wouldn't remember much from the 80s cause I was born in 86

22:53 <efc> I don't either, and I was there the whole time

22:54 <bigt0242000> XD

22:54 <PovAddict> born in 90

22:55 <wdsmia> 1980 I was in the Army

22:59 <PovAddict> <Adrinael> Emacs is kinda like sendmail. Both are good but neither has a good editor or MTA.

22:59 <wdsmia> music in the 80's suffered from the disco hangover of the 70's

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