00:02 <FFEMTcJ> i guess im gonna need to figure out how to use cli to run boinc on the server
00:02 <FFEMTcJ> uggh
00:04 * FFEMTcJ doesnt like this idea
00:05 <FFEMTcJ> today it doesnt seem to be giving an error saying it cant connect.. still just says connecting
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00:21 <Soul_keeper> woohooo rain !!!
00:25 <FFEMTcJ> hmm.. i guess im retarded cause i cant figure out how to work the cli client
00:25 <PovAddict> FFEMTcJ: find cc_config.xml on the server
00:26 <FFEMTcJ> yup
00:26 <PovAddict> set <guirpc_debug> to 1
00:26 <PovAddict> (the tags should be already there, most with 0)
00:27 <FFEMTcJ> yup
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00:28 <PovAddict> then either restart the client (/etc/init.d/boinc-client restart) or run boinc_cmd --read_cc_config
00:28 <FFEMTcJ> yup
00:29 <PovAddict> try to connect from the GUI... this time the client's log may help you see if the connection is reaching there at all
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00:29 <PovAddict> (stdoutdae.txt, kept in /var/lib/boinc-client on Ubuntu/Debian BOINC packages)
00:31 <FFEMTcJ> nothing
00:31 <FFEMTcJ> i guess the gui isnt even able to get out of my desktop?
00:31 <FFEMTcJ> i dont get why it goes off hostname instead of ip
00:32 <FFEMTcJ> cause how is it supposed to figure out the hostname?
00:32 <PovAddict> use ip then
00:32 <PovAddict> your network is supposed to have a working DNS ;)
00:33 <FFEMTcJ> ymm...
00:33 <PovAddict> (hostname always works on Windows, because there is a separate "name server system" on Windows networks to resolve those names)
00:33 <FFEMTcJ> u,,
00:33 <FFEMTcJ> umm
00:34 <PovAddict> tried the IP?
00:34 <FFEMTcJ> ok.. i did 192.168.1.100:31416 and its still stuck on connecting
00:34 <FFEMTcJ> doint it without the port it disconnects immediatly
00:34 <FFEMTcJ> but nothing the in the stdoutdae
00:35 <FFEMTcJ> just got a disconnected
00:35 <PovAddict> on the server itself, do "boinc_cmd --get_project_status" (or any other command), and see if something appears in the log
00:35 <PovAddict> it should show something about the local connection boinc_cmd did
00:36 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
00:36 <PovAddict> any other [guirpc_debug] line before those?
00:36 <FFEMTcJ> nope
00:37 <PovAddict> "[guirpc_debug] found allowed hosts list" anywhere?
00:38 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
00:39 <FFEMTcJ> line 61
00:39 <PovAddict> yeah so it did find the file... hmm
00:40 <FFEMTcJ> should i kick it
00:40 <FFEMTcJ> lol
00:40 <PovAddict> but what is in remote_hosts.cfg?
00:41 <PovAddict> ah nevermind
00:41 <PovAddict> if that was the problem, you'd be getting "GUI RPC request from non-allowed address" in the log
00:41 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
00:41 <FFEMTcJ> im .107
00:42 <PovAddict> are you sure the server is .100? lol
00:42 <FFEMTcJ> that's what i ssh'ed to it with
00:42 <PovAddict> :/
00:42 <PovAddict> you have Linux on both machines?
00:43 <FFEMTcJ> yes
00:43 <PovAddict> run: nc -vv 192.168.1.100 31416
00:43 <FFEMTcJ> on
00:43 <FFEMTcJ> local?
00:43 <PovAddict> on your current machine, to see if it can connect to the srver
00:43 <PovAddict> server*
00:44 <FFEMTcJ> 192.168.1.100: inverse host lookup failed: Unknown host
00:44 <FFEMTcJ> (UNKNOWN) [192.168.1.100] 31416 (?) : Connection refused sent 0, rcvd 0
00:44 <PovAddict> refused!
00:44 <FFEMTcJ> no iptables
00:44 <PovAddict> on the server: netstat -ntpl
00:45 <PovAddict> (that's Numerical, Tcp only, show Program owning sockets, show only Listening sockets)
00:45 <PovAddict> what's in the line with 31416?
00:45 <PovAddict> if any=
00:45 <FFEMTcJ> Active Internet connections (only servers)
00:45 <FFEMTcJ> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
00:45 <FFEMTcJ> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:31416 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8241/boinc
00:45 <FFEMTcJ> tcp6 0 0 :::2022 :::* LISTEN 8108/sshd
00:46 <FFEMTcJ> tcp6 0 0 :::21 :::* LISTEN 7987/proftpd: (acce
00:46 <PovAddict> it's listening in 0.0.0.0? why the <beep> does it refuse the connection then!
00:46 <FFEMTcJ> i was hoping you could tell me that
00:46 <FFEMTcJ> lol
00:46 <FFEMTcJ> sorry...
00:47 <PovAddict> is there a hardware firewall behind the server? :P
00:47 <FFEMTcJ> only a router
00:47 <FFEMTcJ> im at home
00:48 <FFEMTcJ> nothing spiffy
00:48 <PovAddict> and if ssh works without you needing to set up anything special... 31416 should be working too
00:51 <FFEMTcJ> i dunno
00:58 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
00:58 <PovAddict> when you connect remotely?
00:59 <FFEMTcJ> i dont know what caused that
01:00 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at slexy.org)
01:01 <PovAddict> that's progress
01:01 <PovAddict> password is wrong
01:01 <PovAddict> but it's connecting
01:02 <FFEMTcJ> ok.. i double checked password
01:02 <FFEMTcJ> did a restart
01:03 <FFEMTcJ> tried connecting again
01:03 <FFEMTcJ> and so far nothing
01:03 <FFEMTcJ> in the log
01:03 <FFEMTcJ> i got it
01:04 <FFEMTcJ> i keep getting login failed when trying to add a project tho
01:06 <FFEMTcJ> sweet
01:06 <FFEMTcJ> attached to a project
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01:08 <FFEMTcJ> PovAddict: i dont know what you did but thanks
01:08 <FFEMTcJ> :-)
01:10 <FFEMTcJ> thanks for your help PovAddict
01:35 <efc> Sorry I missed all that, sounds like you got it going, good
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02:00 <Soul_keeper> excellent observation skills efc :)
02:01 <efc> he was on the other night and I couldn't help much
02:02 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
02:02 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 61.5°F / 16.4°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Chance of showers in the evening...then slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 52 to 58. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent.; Sunday (1 more message)
02:03 <FFEMTcJ> efc: it's all good.. its workin now..
02:03 <FFEMTcJ> &weather 32818
02:03 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: Temperature: 74.7°F / 23.7°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Sunday - Considerable cloudiness. A chance of showers through late (1 more message)
02:04 <Tidus> &weather 72764
02:04 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 58.1°F / 14.5°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows (1 more message)
02:05 <Tidus> &more
02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: around 60. South winds around 10 mph.;
02:05 <FFEMTcJ> i wanna go where Tidus is
02:05 <Tidus> lol
02:05 <Tidus> &zipinfo 72764
02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Springdale; State: AR; County: Washington; Area Code: 479; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.1771 (North); Longitude: 94.0897 (West)
02:05 <Tidus> &zipinfo 32818
02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Orlando; State: FL; County: Orange; Area Code: 407; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 28.5867 (North); Longitude: 81.4891 (West)
02:05 <Tidus> yeah, i can understand it staying a bit warm
02:06 <FFEMTcJ> lol
02:06 <FFEMTcJ> i get to go to virgina in a couple weeks!
02:06 <MTughan> &weather CYOW
02:06 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 41Â°F / 5Â°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Low 2C(36F) with patchy frost.; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. High 12C(54F). UV index 3 or moderate. Sunday night cloudy. 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Low 1C(34F).; Monday - A mix of (1 more message)
02:06 <Tidus> virginia... 20 million people, 20 last names...
02:06 <MTughan> Yeah, that's about right...
02:06 <FFEMTcJ> heh
02:06 <FFEMTcJ> be 21 when i move there
02:06 <efc> &weather 30625
02:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.;
02:06 <MTughan> 21F or C?
02:07 <MTughan> Or something else entirely...
02:07 <FFEMTcJ> last names
02:07 <MTughan> Ah, makes sense now... :P
02:07 <Tidus> 01:06 < Tidus> virginia... 20 million people, 20 last names...
02:08 <MTughan> I know, I saw it. Just didn't make the connection at first...
02:08 <MTughan> Can you list the 20 last names?
02:08 <FFEMTcJ> &weather 22902
02:08 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: Temperature: 52.2°F / 11.2°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1022.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming west.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs around 80. Light and variable winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 50. Southwest winds around 5 (1 more message)
02:08 <FFEMTcJ> a nice 52.2
02:08 <FFEMTcJ> lows in upper 40s
02:09 <MTughan> Nice...
02:09 <FFEMTcJ> &more
02:09 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: mph...becoming west after midnight.;
02:09 <FFEMTcJ> i want the f outta florida
02:09 <MTughan> High of 54F tomorrow here... Big diff b/w Florida and here.
02:09 <FFEMTcJ> lol
02:09 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
02:10 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 74Â°F / 23Â°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Overcast. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Overcast. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° (1 more message)
02:10 <KathrynM> &more
02:10 <Romulus> KathrynM: C.;
02:10 <KathrynM> lol gee thanks rommie
02:10 <MTughan> Hey, at least he breaks the commands at spaces.
02:11 <Tidus> lol... could have easily just left the "C.;" on there and eliminated the one more message and used less text
02:11 <KathrynM> lol
02:11 <FFEMTcJ> im out.. ya'll have a good night
02:11 <MTughan> See ya.
02:11 <KathrynM> bye
02:11 <Tidus> cya
02:11 <Tidus> cya round like a doughnut
02:11 <MTughan> Ooh, I like donuts...
02:26 <efc> Hmm "Abandoned Moms: Exposed" I think I will skip that one
02:28 <efc> And there's an Obama channel (past the end of UHF..)
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03:21 * Tidus can't wait until tomorrow ...
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04:22 <Soul_keeper> geeze turns out i left my truck window rolled down for several hours in the rain ...
04:22 <Soul_keeper> not used to this
04:22 <Soul_keeper> and i already taught the cats with my steel toes not to go in my truck
04:25 <Tidus> typical redneck thinking... if it gets in the truck, hit it with the steel toes.
04:25 <Tidus> ...
04:27 <Tidus> can't blame the cats for tryin to keep dry if its raining
04:30 <CoderForLife> hello
04:30 <Soul_keeper> no they go in there and spray
04:30 <Soul_keeper> and i'll take "redneck" as a compliment ...
04:31 <Tidus> and that's why all my cats were females
04:31 <Soul_keeper> these are stray cats
04:32 <Tidus> i've had strays before, never once sprayed anything though
04:33 <Tidus> meh, i'll admit, if i was in that situation, i wouldn't have done much better
04:33 <Tidus> probably would have grabbed the slingshot or pellet gun
04:35 <Soul_keeper> i'd get a dog, but i don't want to have to take care of one for another 12+ yrs
04:36 <Soul_keeper> too much commitment for me
04:36 <Tidus> so that rules out marriage...
04:36 <Soul_keeper> yes it does :)
04:40 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.2°F / 7.9°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Unseasonably (1 more message)
04:40 <CoderForLife> &more
04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: warm with highs in the lower 80s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;
04:49 <ELGono> mo don
04:49 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany
04:49 <CoderForLife> hey ELGono =)
04:49 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 39Â°F / 4Â°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 13mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. (1 more message)
04:50 <ELGono> we got some remains of tropical storm crossing the pond
04:50 <Tidus> CoderForLife: i get my new system online monday :)
04:50 <Tidus> finally got the box of parts built, just waiting on its power supply to arrive
04:50 <CoderForLife> congrats Tidus
04:51 <Tidus> abit AW9D-Max mobo (LGA775), (dont laugh at this one, this was a freebie) Celeron-D 3.2ghz proc, 2gb ram, 160gb hdd
04:52 <CoderForLife> hmm
04:52 <CoderForLife> how are Celerons at math?
04:52 <Tidus> turns out i didn't have a single PSU floating around that had the 8-pin cpu connector that my mobo requires, so i have a 550w unit on the way
04:52 <Tidus> CoderForLife: the celeron-D is based on the p4 prescott, just with half the cache
04:52 <CoderForLife> ok
04:53 <Tidus> so it shouldn't do too terrible
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05:09 <CoderForLife> well - some breakfast and then back to Powerpoint w@#%
05:09 <CoderForLife> laterz
05:10 <Tidus> seeya
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05:54 <Behnam> Hello
05:55 <Behnam> Why should we help to find extraterrestrial civilizations, if governments will probably hide it from us if we find something ?
05:55 <Behnam> Hehe :)
05:57 <Tidus> you mean just like they hid Roswell?
05:58 <Behnam> mmm, " for example "
05:59 <Behnam> Don't see me as an amateur ufologist or I don't know what, it's just, a question :)
05:59 <Behnam> It's a legitimate question isn't it ? So as I can give my processor to another project :)
06:00 <Tidus> meh, i see boinc as a way to use otherwise useless cpu cycles
06:00 <Tidus> i'm attached to seti, cpdn, and WCG
06:06 <Behnam> And who proves us that data calculated are Arecibo signals, and not datas to be decrypted from government ? :D
06:08 <Tidus> &weather 72764
06:08 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 56.3°F / 13.5°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Southeast winds around 10 mph.; Monday - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in (1 more message)
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11:51 <wdsmia> &quiet
11:51 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers
12:08 <PovAddict> Behnam: and that's what the other 50+ BOINC projects are for... SETI isn't the only choice
12:34 <Behnam> I know ;)
12:35 * FreeLarry so that various companies can make money from free research - hopefully at a lower margin so's us poor people can afford the meds
12:35 <Behnam> ?
12:35 <FreeLarry> various protien research projects - just a generalization
12:36 <Behnam> but not only
12:36 <FreeLarry> as to actually produce from results may not be feasable
12:36 <FreeLarry> nope also the blackhole project ;) lhc
12:36 <FreeLarry> as media dubbd it
12:37 <nickuwo> mmm... blackholes...
12:37 <FreeLarry> ohhhh they feel so nice - especially when constipated
12:38 <FreeLarry> ;)
12:38 <nickuwo> gross
12:38 * FreeLarry goes looking for meds again
12:38 <nickuwo> hehe
12:38 <nickuwo> go brewers!!!
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16:32 <wdsmia> &wx 50265
16:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 78.6°F / 25.9°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 60. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Monday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 70s. South wind 10 to (1 more message)
16:32 <wdsmia> &more
16:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Monday Night - Showers and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the upper 50s. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;
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16:48 <xcamel> re-hi
16:48 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
16:48 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
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16:48 <MTughan> 'lo e
16:51 <efc> moo
16:51 <xcamel> back from VA/DC
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17:02 <xcamel> duh..
17:02 <wdsmia> lol
17:08 <PovAddict> hey wb
17:19 <nickuwo> jeez, rough day for wisconsin sports...
17:20 <xcamel> eh
17:20 <xcamel> ?
17:20 <nickuwo> brewers and packers lost
17:21 <efc> judgeparker&searchsafe=off
17:21 <xcamel> not a footbrawl person.
17:24 <PovAddict> efc: safesearch on Google Images is so stupid... do people use Google Images for anything *other* than "unsafe search"?
17:25 <PovAddict> :P
17:25 <efc> On the advice of my attorney I decline to answer this question
17:25 <PovAddict> xD
17:26 <efc> They have to have plausible deniability
17:26 <efc> They can't call it pRonquest.google.com
17:27 <PovAddict> heh... Google Pr0n
17:29 <xcamel> I fired my attorney, and plead the fifth
17:31 <efc> They don't yet have a filter to select only 'unsafe' images though. Thats revenue for the future.
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17:43 <xcamel> &wx 12074
17:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 52.4°F / 11.3°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. (1 more message)
17:43 <xcamel> &more
17:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Areas of frost after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
17:43 <xcamel> burrr...
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17:43 <PovAddict> mid 30s farenheit? brrr
17:43 <xcamel> -2 C
17:57 <efc> &weather 30625
17:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light east winds.;
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18:05 <CoderForLife> re-hi
18:05 <CoderForLife> hey there xcamel - missed you all of a sudden like
18:07 <CoderForLife> I'm stopping w@#%ing on w@#% homew@#% for today
18:10 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
18:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 72.6°F / 22.6°C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 50. East winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs around 80. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;
18:10 <CoderForLife> 80 tomorrow
18:16 <xcamel> back from walk
18:17 <CoderForLife> wb
18:18 <CoderForLife> and welcome home
18:23 <CoderForLife> bbiab
18:45 <efc> moo
18:56 <efc> How strange that there are blogs about Judge Parker and Mary Worth.. I didn't think anyone had read those in years
19:05 <xcamel> anything is possible..
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19:08 <efc> Judge Parker is boring as sawdust but they started putting in a hot blond in a swimsuit every Sunday that got my attention
19:31 * KathrynM yawns
19:32 * xcamel yawns back
19:32 <KathrynM> ha!
19:32 <KathrynM> Congratulations!
19:32 <KathrynM> You've been chosen as the SETI@home user of the day!
19:32 <KathrynM> Your profile will be featured on the SETI@home website for the next 24 hours.
19:32 <xcamel> woo-hoo
19:32 <KathrynM> Is that a good thing or some sort of punishment?
19:33 <xcamel> U-choose
19:33 <KathrynM> lol
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22:01 <MTughan> Hey Kathy: How'd you get 1400 RAC on ABC with a C2D 2.0GHz? My Mac (CD 2.0GHz) on E@H just managed to hit 400 RAC. Are you running 64-bit Linux?
22:07 <MTughan> Or just in case that didn't flash you... KathrynM.
22:19 <zombie67> yes, I think she runs 64 bit
22:21 <MTughan> Thanks zombie.
22:21 <MTughan> I hope to switch my main OS on the laptop from XP to F8 soon, but I can't use the wireless yet. That's in kernel 2.6.27 (2.6.26 is stable right now).
22:24 <zombie67> oh wait....maybe I am thinking of Cori...
22:24 <zombie67> Now I am not sure
22:25 <zombie67> in addition to 64 bit being faster, she may have just gotten lucky with more of the big tasks
22:25 <MTughan> lol... I was just wondering. Was still wanting to switch over, because I have heard before that ABC is much faster on 64-bit.
22:26 <zombie67> yeah, about 2x faster
22:26 <zombie67> and the bigger the tasks, the bigger the credits, much bigger
22:27 <MTughan> Yep, up to 1000 credits, right?
22:27 <zombie67> MT: check out my PPC quad: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3d48dbde5892519452c52b08b0397002
22:27 <zombie67> yep
22:28 <MTughan> Nice stats on Ramsey...
22:29 <zombie67> notice my production over the bast week or so?
22:29 <MTughan> Holy crap...
22:29 <zombie67> better yet, a 1.33ghz iBook G4: http://boincstats.com/bam/account_host.php?host_id=93850
22:30 <MTughan> Is Ramsey giving out insane amounts of credits?
22:30 <MTughan> "BAM!|Host details
22:30 <MTughan> You are not logged in."
22:30 <zombie67> whoops, wrong URL. Use this one: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=ad6239853b5710562e111421a4baea23
22:31 <MTughan> What about it? Besides the huge jump in credits...
22:31 <zombie67> look at the daily proction for the past week
22:31 <zombie67> the chart
22:31 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw it before.
22:31 <zombie67> no
22:31 <zombie67> this is a G4 iBook
22:32 <zombie67> the first chart was my quad G5
22:32 <MTughan> I realize that. I asked the question above: <MTughan> Is Ramsey giving out insane amounts of credits?
22:32 <zombie67> nope
22:32 <zombie67> fixed credtis
22:33 <zombie67> a team mate optimized the app
22:33 <MTughan> Were those all the tasks that weren't being validated before being credited... Wow.
22:33 <zombie67> huh?
22:33 <zombie67> the results are valid
22:34 <MTughan> First part was me typing a thought, then responding to your thing.
22:34 <zombie67> and good
22:34 <MTughan> No, I remember Ramsey was down a couple days with server XML errors.
22:34 <zombie67> ah
22:34 <MTughan> Well, maybe not down...
22:34 <zombie67> no, nothing to do with that
22:35 <zombie67> the admin is going to do his own optimization, so I expect the per-task credit will drop.
22:35 <zombie67> still, pretty amazing job at optimization.
22:35 <MTughan> Look at it the other way: no optimization on the default apps.
22:36 <zombie67> for example, my C2Q @ 3ghz takex 1600 seconds. My g4 does it in <300 seconds
22:37 <zombie67> crunch3r gave the admin some tips, so we will see how good he can optimize the stock apps
22:38 <zombie67> but I doubt he has the expensive tools, plus he will not be able to use the more modern SSE* stuff
22:38 <MTughan> I'm gonna see what I can do with GCC...
22:38 <MTughan> GCC can do SSE, SSE2, SSE3, and SSSE3.
22:38 <zombie67> sure
22:38 <zombie67> but you can't use the results for the stock apps
22:38 <MTughan> Hmm?
22:39 <zombie67> not all machines have processors that have SSE3 (for example).
22:39 <zombie67> the stock app has to work with any processor
22:39 <MTughan> I'm on Intel Mac.
22:39 <MTughan> Remember, they started with Core Solos. :P
22:39 <zombie67> yes. I am talking in general for windows and linus
22:39 <zombie67> linux
22:39 <MTughan> Ah, not doing Win or Linux at this point.
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22:40 <zombie67> MT, he just posted the source if you want to play with it.
22:40 <MTughan> I realized that. What do you think I'm compiling now? :P
22:40 <zombie67> heh
22:41 <MTughan> Just going to remake the BOINC libraries to a later version...
22:41 <zombie67> but it takes more than just GCC. Crunch3r did some other stuff too.
22:41 <MTughan> Yeah, he has the ICC.
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22:45 <zombie67> At this time, I am using only his PPC op app. He obviously has one for windows (you can see it at the opt of the machines list), but I don't have it.
22:45 <MTughan> Hmm, wonder what he did the PPC app with... ICC is Intel's compiler.
22:45 <zombie67> if you make a hot app for intel/osx, I will be more than happy to help test it.
22:46 <zombie67> like I said, he did more than just compiler stuff.
22:46 <MTughan> Well, if BOINC will make. I think DA fscked it up again.
22:46 <MTughan> Or somone.
22:46 <MTughan> someone*
22:46 <zombie67> I think he may have re-wrote or re-ordered stuff too
22:47 <zombie67> one thing for sure was a different way of doing random
22:48 <zombie67> nick may have fixed that in the code he just released
22:48 <MTughan> Hehe, I like my configure flags for BOINC...
22:48 <MTughan> ./configure --disable-server --disable-client --with-apple-opengl-framework CFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -O1" CXXFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -O1" CPPFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -I/Users/mtughan/boinc/jpeg/include" OBJCFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386
22:49 <MTughan> I don't think that'll fit all on a line... xD
22:49 <zombie67> that is SO over my head
22:49 <MTughan> Don't worry, takes me a bit to figure it out too. :P
22:49 <zombie67> Ive decided to try to concentrate on RCN, since it is nearing the end
22:51 <zombie67> problem is that I cannot use my 8-way mac...it doesn't know platform 'x86_64-apple-darwin'
22:51 <nickuwo> hey guys, you might want to redl the source, it had a few errors in it :)
22:51 <zombie67> hi nick!
22:52 <nickuwo> Hey zombie, hows it goin?
22:52 <zombie67> going fast!
22:52 <zombie67> Did you increase the size of the tasks?
22:53 <zombie67> I thought I read that in the forum, but I haven't seen it yet.
22:53 <nickuwo> not yet, probably let everyone crunch 10 min wus for a day or two just so they believe me when I say I optimized it :)
22:53 <nickuwo> oh, yea I did a bit, but it'll get increased again soon
22:54 <nickuwo> I'll try and keep the wu time around an hour eventually tho
22:54 <zombie67> yeah, if you optimize the stock app, then you will need to either decrease the credits, or increase the task size...other the credit police will scream
22:55 <zombie67> question: for optimization, are you looking into SSE*?
22:55 <nickuwo> hehe :)
22:55 <zombie67> this is why I ask:
22:55 <nickuwo> I haven't no, how do you take advantage of that?
22:56 <zombie67> you can't requuire SSE2+ for the stock win or linux app, becase not all processors have it.
22:57 <nickuwo> ok
22:57 <zombie67> HOWEVER: if you had a separate app for Win64 and Linux64, then you CAN use up to SSE2, because 64 bit OS won't run on any processor that does not also suppport SSE2
22:57 <zombie67> so at least 64 bit apps could take advantage of the extra speed
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22:58 <zombie67> also, all intel/osx support SSE3
22:58 <nickuwo> i believe the linux 64 version does already - that's what -ftree-vectorize does, no?
22:58 <zombie67> maybe MT could explain the benefit of SSE* and how to use it? It's all WAY over my head
22:58 <zombie67> MTughan?
22:58 <Romulus> I guess MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, zombie67
22:59 <MTughan> It's a set of instructions for multimedia so that developers don't have to write that all themselves.
22:59 <MTughan> Basically.
22:59 <zombie67> yes, but how does that apply to BOINC apps?
23:00 <zombie67> foe example, the SETI app benefits a LOT by using SSE*
23:00 <MTughan> I don't quite know, but it does make it faster.
23:01 <zombie67> heh
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23:20 <nickuwo> alright, compiled the win64 with sse2
23:37 <zombie67> sweet!
23:37 <zombie67> is it faster?
23:37 <zombie67> than without SSE2?
23:40 <zombie67> different apps benefit differenlty from SSE*
23:40 <nickuwo> I haven't really benchmarked it... the version without took about 10 mins, i'll try the new one now...
23:40 <zombie67> you have a win64 mancine
23:40 <zombie67> machine?
23:40 <nickuwo> it's mostly integer math so, from what I've been reading, it might not be faster.
23:40 <nickuwo> ya
23:41 <zombie67> nice.
23:41 <zombie67> 13 of my 14 win machines are xp64
23:41 <nickuwo> sweet. no vista?
23:41 <zombie67> nope
23:41 <nickuwo> I like vista
23:42 <zombie67> i bought or built them before vista was stable
23:42 <nickuwo> ahh
23:42 <nickuwo> you got a 8 core dont ya?
23:42 <zombie67> three 8-core XP64, one 8-core OSX/Intel
23:43 <nickuwo> damn, thats awesome... those expensive?
23:43 <zombie67> not as much as you think. Especially if you go through Dell referbs
23:44 <nickuwo> I'll have to check that out
23:44 <zombie67> of course, the mac *is* expensive....but no much more than an equally equipped new Dell
23:45 <zombie67> the mac is my daily use machine
23:45 <zombie67> the rest are just crunchers
23:45 <nickuwo> got them all sitting in a room somewhere?
23:45 <zombie67> in my garage
23:46 <zombie67> on a rack.
23:46 <nickuwo> nice
23:46 <zombie67> you know those chrome wire racks?
23:46 <zombie67> my OC machines are inside where they get the AC to keep them cool
23:47 <nickuwo> so how much $ in electricity are those costing ya?
23:48 <zombie67> WAY too much...I'm in CA.
23:48 <zombie67> I had to give away all my P4 machines...too expensive to run, with too little return
23:48 <nickuwo> hehe, i bet. You have a borderline supercomputer suckin up kW....
23:48 <zombie67> yep
23:49 <zombie67> the good news is that I am single, so no family to support
23:49 <zombie67> so this is how i spend my money
23:50 <zombie67> i see you pulled back the osx/ppc app?
23:51 <nickuwo> crunch3r compiled it for me, he said it had a bug. I'll prolly try to compile it myself soon
23:51 <zombie67> he has a lot of good knowledge
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23:51 <Tidus> heh, i know the feeling of a p4 machine...
23:52 <zombie67> yep. I refuse to buy any more machines with less than 8 cores.
23:52 <Tidus> the netburst architecture was epic fail.
23:52 <zombie67> oh yeah
23:52 <zombie67> core 2 is amazing
23:53 <Tidus> when the p4 first came out, a P3-1.4 would outrun a p4 up to 1.8
23:53 <Tidus> and some 1.9's
23:53 <zombie67> yeah, my Pentium M was so much faster than a comperable P4
23:53 <Tidus> Linux Kilika 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #1 Wed Oct 1 03:37:20 CDT 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
23:53 <Tidus> that's my daily use
23:54 <zombie67> I have a couple of X2 crunchers
23:56 <Tidus> i have this one and a celeron-D 3.2
23:56 <Tidus> which is surprisingly good on power for it being p4 bsed
23:56 <Tidus> based *
23:57 <Tidus> measured it with a Kill-A-Watt meter, and under full load while playing WoW on it, it's only sucking about 170W
23:57 <Tidus> if it's just CPU at full load, video card idle, it uses about 115
23:58 <Soul_keeper> kill-a-watt is awesome
23:58 <zombie67> nice. GPU crunching sucks HUGE watts
23:59 <Tidus> zombie67: my card's too old to do GPU crunching