IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-10-05

00:02 <FFEMTcJ> i guess im gonna need to figure out how to use cli to run boinc on the server

00:02 <FFEMTcJ> uggh

00:04 * FFEMTcJ doesnt like this idea

00:05 <FFEMTcJ> today it doesnt seem to be giving an error saying it cant connect.. still just says connecting

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00:21 <Soul_keeper> woohooo rain !!!

00:25 <FFEMTcJ> hmm.. i guess im retarded cause i cant figure out how to work the cli client

00:25 <PovAddict> FFEMTcJ: find cc_config.xml on the server

00:26 <FFEMTcJ> yup

00:26 <PovAddict> set <guirpc_debug> to 1

00:26 <PovAddict> (the tags should be already there, most with 0)

00:27 <FFEMTcJ> yup

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00:28 <PovAddict> then either restart the client (/etc/init.d/boinc-client restart) or run boinc_cmd --read_cc_config

00:28 <FFEMTcJ> yup

00:29 <PovAddict> try to connect from the GUI... this time the client's log may help you see if the connection is reaching there at all

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00:29 <PovAddict> (stdoutdae.txt, kept in /var/lib/boinc-client on Ubuntu/Debian BOINC packages)

00:31 <FFEMTcJ> nothing

00:31 <FFEMTcJ> i guess the gui isnt even able to get out of my desktop?

00:31 <FFEMTcJ> i dont get why it goes off hostname instead of ip

00:32 <FFEMTcJ> cause how is it supposed to figure out the hostname?

00:32 <PovAddict> use ip then

00:32 <PovAddict> your network is supposed to have a working DNS ;)

00:33 <FFEMTcJ> ymm...

00:33 <PovAddict> (hostname always works on Windows, because there is a separate "name server system" on Windows networks to resolve those names)

00:33 <FFEMTcJ> u,,

00:33 <FFEMTcJ> umm

00:34 <PovAddict> tried the IP?

00:34 <FFEMTcJ> ok.. i did and its still stuck on connecting

00:34 <FFEMTcJ> doint it without the port it disconnects immediatly

00:34 <FFEMTcJ> but nothing the in the stdoutdae

00:35 <FFEMTcJ> just got a disconnected

00:35 <PovAddict> on the server itself, do "boinc_cmd --get_project_status" (or any other command), and see if something appears in the log

00:35 <PovAddict> it should show something about the local connection boinc_cmd did

00:36 <FFEMTcJ>

00:36 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at

00:36 <PovAddict> any other [guirpc_debug] line before those?

00:36 <FFEMTcJ> nope

00:37 <PovAddict> "[guirpc_debug] found allowed hosts list" anywhere?

00:38 <FFEMTcJ>

00:38 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at

00:39 <FFEMTcJ> line 61

00:39 <PovAddict> yeah so it did find the file... hmm

00:40 <FFEMTcJ> should i kick it

00:40 <FFEMTcJ> lol

00:40 <PovAddict> but what is in remote_hosts.cfg?

00:41 <PovAddict> ah nevermind

00:41 <PovAddict> if that was the problem, you'd be getting "GUI RPC request from non-allowed address" in the log

00:41 <FFEMTcJ>

00:41 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at

00:41 <FFEMTcJ> im .107

00:42 <PovAddict> are you sure the server is .100? lol

00:42 <FFEMTcJ> that's what i ssh'ed to it with

00:42 <PovAddict> :/

00:42 <PovAddict> you have Linux on both machines?

00:43 <FFEMTcJ> yes

00:43 <PovAddict> run: nc -vv 31416

00:43 <FFEMTcJ> on

00:43 <FFEMTcJ> local?

00:43 <PovAddict> on your current machine, to see if it can connect to the srver

00:43 <PovAddict> server*

00:44 <FFEMTcJ> inverse host lookup failed: Unknown host

00:44 <FFEMTcJ> (UNKNOWN) [] 31416 (?) : Connection refused sent 0, rcvd 0

00:44 <PovAddict> refused!

00:44 <FFEMTcJ> no iptables

00:44 <PovAddict> on the server: netstat -ntpl

00:45 <PovAddict> (that's Numerical, Tcp only, show Program owning sockets, show only Listening sockets)

00:45 <PovAddict> what's in the line with 31416?

00:45 <PovAddict> if any=

00:45 <FFEMTcJ> Active Internet connections (only servers)

00:45 <FFEMTcJ> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name

00:45 <FFEMTcJ> tcp        0      0 *               LISTEN      8241/boinc

00:45 <FFEMTcJ> tcp6       0      0 :::2022                 :::*                    LISTEN      8108/sshd

00:46 <FFEMTcJ> tcp6       0      0 :::21                   :::*                    LISTEN      7987/proftpd: (acce

00:46 <PovAddict> it's listening in why the <beep> does it refuse the connection then!

00:46 <FFEMTcJ> i was hoping you could tell me that

00:46 <FFEMTcJ> lol

00:46 <FFEMTcJ> sorry...

00:47 <PovAddict> is there a hardware firewall behind the server? :P

00:47 <FFEMTcJ> only a router

00:47 <FFEMTcJ> im at home

00:48 <FFEMTcJ> nothing spiffy

00:48 <PovAddict> and if ssh works without you needing to set up anything special... 31416 should be working too

00:51 <FFEMTcJ> i dunno

00:58 <FFEMTcJ> this is hangin out in there now:

00:58 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at

00:58 <PovAddict> when you connect remotely?

00:59 <FFEMTcJ> i dont know what caused that

01:00 <FFEMTcJ> ok.. i did just try using the manager to connect again:

01:00 <Romulus> Title: Slexy 2.0 (at

01:01 <PovAddict> that's progress

01:01 <PovAddict> password is wrong

01:01 <PovAddict> but it's connecting

01:02 <FFEMTcJ> ok.. i double checked password

01:02 <FFEMTcJ> did a restart

01:03 <FFEMTcJ> tried connecting again

01:03 <FFEMTcJ> and so far nothing

01:03 <FFEMTcJ> in the log

01:03 <FFEMTcJ> i got it

01:04 <FFEMTcJ> i keep getting login failed when trying to add a project tho

01:06 <FFEMTcJ> sweet

01:06 <FFEMTcJ> attached to a project

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01:08 <FFEMTcJ> PovAddict: i dont know what you did but thanks

01:08 <FFEMTcJ> :-)

01:10 <FFEMTcJ> thanks for your help PovAddict

01:35 <efc> Sorry I missed all that, sounds like you got it going, good

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02:00 <Soul_keeper> excellent observation skills efc :)

02:01 <efc> he was on the other night and I couldn't help much

02:02 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

02:02 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 61.5F / 16.4C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Chance of showers in the evening...then slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 52 to 58. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent.; Sunday (1 more message)

02:03 <FFEMTcJ> efc: it's all good.. its workin now..

02:03 <FFEMTcJ> &weather 32818

02:03 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: Temperature: 74.7F / 23.7C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Sunday - Considerable cloudiness. A chance of showers through late (1 more message)

02:04 <Tidus> &weather 72764

02:04 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 58.1F / 14.5C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light winds.; Sunday - Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows (1 more message)

02:05 <Tidus> &more

02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: around 60. South winds around 10 mph.;

02:05 <FFEMTcJ> i wanna go where Tidus is

02:05 <Tidus> lol

02:05 <Tidus> &zipinfo 72764

02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Springdale; State: AR; County: Washington; Area Code: 479; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.1771 (North); Longitude: 94.0897 (West)

02:05 <Tidus> &zipinfo 32818

02:05 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Orlando; State: FL; County: Orange; Area Code: 407; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 28.5867 (North); Longitude: 81.4891 (West)

02:05 <Tidus> yeah, i can understand it staying a bit warm

02:06 <FFEMTcJ> lol

02:06 <FFEMTcJ> i get to go to virgina in a couple weeks!

02:06 <MTughan> &weather CYOW

02:06 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 41°F / 5°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Low 2C(36F) with patchy frost.; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. High 12C(54F). UV index 3 or moderate. Sunday night cloudy. 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Low 1C(34F).; Monday - A mix of (1 more message)

02:06 <Tidus> virginia... 20 million people, 20 last names...

02:06 <MTughan> Yeah, that's about right...

02:06 <FFEMTcJ> heh

02:06 <FFEMTcJ> be 21 when i move there

02:06 <efc> &weather 30625

02:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 68F / 20C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.;

02:06 <MTughan> 21F or C?

02:07 <MTughan> Or something else entirely...

02:07 <FFEMTcJ> last names

02:07 <MTughan> Ah, makes sense now... :P

02:07 <Tidus> 01:06 < Tidus> virginia... 20 million people, 20 last names...

02:08 <MTughan> I know, I saw it. Just didn't make the connection at first...

02:08 <MTughan> Can you list the 20 last names?

02:08 <FFEMTcJ> &weather 22902

02:08 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: Temperature: 52.2F / 11.2C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1022.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming west.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs around 80. Light and variable winds.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows around 50. Southwest winds around 5 (1 more message)

02:08 <FFEMTcJ> a nice 52.2

02:08 <FFEMTcJ> lows in upper 40s

02:09 <MTughan> Nice...

02:09 <FFEMTcJ> &more

02:09 <Romulus> FFEMTcJ: mph...becoming west after midnight.;

02:09 <FFEMTcJ> i want the f outta florida

02:09 <MTughan> High of 54F tomorrow here... Big diff b/w Florida and here.

02:09 <FFEMTcJ> lol

02:09 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

02:10 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 74°F / 23°C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Chance of Rain. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Overcast. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Overcast. Low:62 F. / 17 (1 more message)

02:10 <KathrynM> &more

02:10 <Romulus> KathrynM: C.;

02:10 <KathrynM> lol  gee thanks rommie

02:10 <MTughan> Hey, at least he breaks the commands at spaces.

02:11 <Tidus> lol... could have easily just left the "C.;" on there and eliminated the one more message and used less text

02:11 <KathrynM> lol

02:11 <FFEMTcJ> im out.. ya'll have a good night

02:11 <MTughan> See ya.

02:11 <KathrynM> bye

02:11 <Tidus> cya

02:11 <Tidus> cya round like a doughnut

02:11 <MTughan> Ooh, I like donuts...

02:26 <efc> Hmm "Abandoned Moms: Exposed" I think I will skip that one

02:28 <efc> And there's an Obama channel (past the end of UHF..)

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03:21 * Tidus can't wait until tomorrow ...

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04:22 <Soul_keeper> geeze turns out i left my truck window rolled down for several hours in the rain ...

04:22 <Soul_keeper> not used to this

04:22 <Soul_keeper> and i already taught the cats with my steel toes not to go in my truck

04:25 <Tidus> typical redneck thinking... if it gets in the truck, hit it with the steel toes.

04:25 <Tidus> ...

04:27 <Tidus> can't blame the cats for tryin to keep dry if its raining

04:30 <CoderForLife> hello

04:30 <Soul_keeper> no they go in there and spray

04:30 <CoderForLife>

04:30 <Soul_keeper> and i'll take "redneck" as a compliment ...

04:30 <Romulus> <> (at

04:31 <Tidus> and that's why all my cats were females

04:31 <Soul_keeper> these are stray cats

04:32 <Tidus> i've had strays before, never once sprayed anything though

04:33 <Tidus> meh, i'll admit, if i was in that situation, i wouldn't have done much better

04:33 <Tidus> probably would have grabbed the slingshot or pellet gun

04:35 <Soul_keeper> i'd get a dog, but i don't want to have to take care of one for another 12+ yrs

04:36 <Soul_keeper> too much commitment for me

04:36 <Tidus> so that rules out marriage...

04:36 <Soul_keeper> yes it does :)

04:40 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.2F / 7.9C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Unseasonably (1 more message)

04:40 <CoderForLife> &more

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: warm with highs in the lower 80s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

04:49 <ELGono> mo don

04:49 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

04:49 <CoderForLife> hey ELGono =)

04:49 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 13mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. (1 more message)

04:50 <ELGono> we got some remains of tropical storm crossing the pond

04:50 <Tidus> CoderForLife: i get my new system online monday :)

04:50 <Tidus> finally got the box of parts built, just waiting on its power supply to arrive

04:50 <CoderForLife> congrats Tidus

04:51 <Tidus> abit AW9D-Max mobo (LGA775), (dont laugh at this one, this was a freebie) Celeron-D 3.2ghz proc, 2gb ram, 160gb hdd

04:52 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:52 <CoderForLife> how are Celerons at math?

04:52 <Tidus> turns out i didn't have a single PSU floating around that had the 8-pin cpu connector that my mobo requires, so i have a 550w unit on the way

04:52 <Tidus> CoderForLife: the celeron-D is based on the p4 prescott, just with half the cache

04:52 <CoderForLife> ok

04:53 <Tidus> so it shouldn't do too terrible

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05:01 <CoderForLife>

05:01 <Romulus> <> (at

05:09 <CoderForLife> well - some breakfast and then back to Powerpoint w@#%

05:09 <CoderForLife> laterz

05:10 <Tidus> seeya

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05:54 <Behnam> Hello

05:55 <Behnam> Why should we help to find extraterrestrial civilizations, if governments will probably hide it from us if we find something ?

05:55 <Behnam> Hehe :)

05:57 <Tidus> you mean just like they hid Roswell?

05:58 <Behnam> mmm, " for example "

05:59 <Behnam> Don't see me as an amateur ufologist or I don't know what, it's just, a question :)

05:59 <Behnam> It's a legitimate question isn't it ? So as I can give my processor to another project :)

06:00 <Tidus> meh, i see boinc as a way to use otherwise useless cpu cycles

06:00 <Tidus> i'm attached to seti, cpdn, and WCG

06:06 <Behnam> And who proves us that data calculated are Arecibo signals, and not datas to be decrypted from government ? :D

06:08 <Tidus> &weather 72764

06:08 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 56.3F / 13.5C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Southeast winds around 10 mph.; Monday - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in (1 more message)

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11:51 <wdsmia> &quiet

11:51 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

12:08 <PovAddict> Behnam: and that's what the other 50+ BOINC projects are for... SETI isn't the only choice

12:34 <Behnam> I know ;)

12:35 * FreeLarry so that various companies can make money from free research - hopefully at a lower margin so's us poor people can afford the meds

12:35 <Behnam> ?

12:35 <FreeLarry> various protien research projects - just a generalization

12:36 <Behnam> but not only

12:36 <FreeLarry> as to actually produce from results may not be feasable

12:36 <FreeLarry> nope also the blackhole project ;) lhc

12:36 <FreeLarry> as media dubbd it

12:37 <nickuwo> mmm... blackholes...

12:37 <FreeLarry> ohhhh they feel so nice - especially when constipated

12:38 <FreeLarry> ;)

12:38 <nickuwo> gross

12:38 * FreeLarry goes looking for meds again

12:38 <nickuwo> hehe

12:38 <nickuwo> go brewers!!!

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16:32 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

16:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 78.6F / 25.9C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 60. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Monday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 70s. South wind 10 to (1 more message)

16:32 <wdsmia> &more

16:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Monday Night - Showers and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the upper 50s. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;

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16:48 <xcamel> re-hi

16:48 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

16:48 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

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16:48 <MTughan> 'lo e

16:51 <efc> moo

16:51 <xcamel> back from VA/DC

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17:02 <xcamel> duh..

17:02 <wdsmia> lol

17:08 <PovAddict> hey wb

17:19 <nickuwo> jeez, rough day for wisconsin sports...

17:20 <xcamel> eh

17:20 <xcamel> ?

17:20 <nickuwo> brewers and packers lost

17:21 <efc> judgeparker&searchsafe=off

17:21 <xcamel> not a footbrawl person.

17:24 <PovAddict> efc: safesearch on Google Images is so stupid... do people use Google Images for anything *other* than "unsafe search"?

17:25 <PovAddict> :P

17:25 <efc> On the advice of my attorney I decline to answer this question

17:25 <PovAddict> xD

17:26 <efc> They have to have plausible deniability

17:26 <efc> They can't call it

17:27 <PovAddict> heh... Google Pr0n

17:29 <xcamel> I fired my attorney, and plead the fifth

17:31 <efc> They don't yet have a filter to select only 'unsafe' images though. Thats revenue for the future.

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17:43 <xcamel> &wx 12074

17:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 52.4F / 11.3C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. (1 more message)

17:43 <xcamel> &more

17:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Areas of frost after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

17:43 <xcamel> burrr...

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17:43 <PovAddict> mid 30s farenheit? brrr

17:43 <xcamel> -2 C

17:57 <efc> &weather 30625

17:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 84F / 29C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Light east winds.;

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18:05 <CoderForLife> re-hi

18:05 <CoderForLife> hey there xcamel - missed you all of a sudden like

18:07 <CoderForLife> I'm stopping w@#%ing on w@#% homew@#% for today

18:10 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 72.6F / 22.6C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 50. East winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs around 80. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

18:10 <CoderForLife> 80 tomorrow

18:16 <xcamel> back from walk

18:17 <CoderForLife> wb

18:18 <CoderForLife> and welcome home

18:23 <CoderForLife> bbiab

18:45 <efc> moo

18:56 <efc> How strange that there are blogs about Judge Parker and Mary Worth.. I didn't think anyone had read those in years

19:05 <xcamel> anything is possible..

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19:08 <efc> Judge Parker is boring as sawdust but they started putting in a hot blond in a swimsuit every Sunday that got my attention

19:31 * KathrynM yawns

19:32 * xcamel yawns back

19:32 <KathrynM> ha!

19:32 <KathrynM> Congratulations!

19:32 <KathrynM> You've been chosen as the SETI@home user of the day!

19:32 <KathrynM>        Your profile will be featured on the SETI@home website for the next 24 hours.

19:32 <xcamel> woo-hoo

19:32 <KathrynM> Is that a good thing or some sort of punishment?

19:33 <xcamel> U-choose

19:33 <KathrynM> lol

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22:01 <MTughan> Hey Kathy: How'd you get 1400 RAC on ABC with a C2D 2.0GHz? My Mac (CD 2.0GHz) on E@H just managed to hit 400 RAC. Are you running 64-bit Linux?

22:07 <MTughan> Or just in case that didn't flash you... KathrynM.

22:19 <zombie67> yes, I think she runs 64 bit

22:21 <MTughan> Thanks zombie.

22:21 <MTughan> I hope to switch my main OS on the laptop from XP to F8 soon, but I can't use the wireless yet. That's in kernel 2.6.27 (2.6.26 is stable right now).

22:24 <zombie67> oh wait....maybe I am thinking of Cori...

22:24 <zombie67> Now I am not sure

22:25 <zombie67> in addition to 64 bit being faster, she may have just gotten lucky with more of the big tasks

22:25 <MTughan> lol... I was just wondering. Was still wanting to switch over, because I have heard before that ABC is much faster on 64-bit.

22:26 <zombie67> yeah, about 2x faster

22:26 <zombie67> and the bigger the tasks, the bigger the credits, much bigger

22:27 <MTughan> Yep, up to 1000 credits, right?

22:27 <zombie67> MT:  check out my PPC quad:

22:27 <Romulus> <> (at

22:27 <zombie67> yep

22:28 <MTughan> Nice stats on Ramsey...

22:29 <zombie67> notice my production over the bast week or so?

22:29 <MTughan> Holy crap...

22:29 <zombie67> better yet, a 1.33ghz iBook G4:

22:29 <Romulus> <> (at

22:30 <MTughan> Is Ramsey giving out insane amounts of credits?

22:30 <MTughan> "BAM!|Host details

22:30 <MTughan> You are not logged in."

22:30 <zombie67> whoops, wrong URL.  Use this one:

22:30 <Romulus> <> (at

22:31 <MTughan> What about it? Besides the huge jump in credits...

22:31 <zombie67> look at the daily proction for the past week

22:31 <zombie67> the chart

22:31 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw it before.

22:31 <zombie67> no

22:31 <zombie67> this is a G4 iBook

22:32 <zombie67> the first chart was my quad G5

22:32 <MTughan> I realize that. I asked the question above: <MTughan> Is Ramsey giving out insane amounts of credits?

22:32 <zombie67> nope

22:32 <zombie67> fixed credtis

22:33 <zombie67> a team mate optimized the app

22:33 <MTughan> Were those all the tasks that weren't being validated before being credited... Wow.

22:33 <zombie67> huh?

22:33 <zombie67> the results are valid

22:34 <MTughan> First part was me typing a thought, then responding to your thing.

22:34 <zombie67> and good

22:34 <MTughan> No, I remember Ramsey was down a couple days with server XML errors.

22:34 <zombie67> ah

22:34 <MTughan> Well, maybe not down...

22:34 <zombie67> no, nothing to do with that

22:35 <zombie67> the admin is going to do his own optimization, so I expect the per-task credit will drop.

22:35 <zombie67> still, pretty amazing job at optimization.

22:35 <MTughan> Look at it the other way: no optimization on the default apps.

22:36 <zombie67> for example, my C2Q @ 3ghz takex 1600 seconds.  My g4 does it in <300 seconds

22:37 <zombie67> crunch3r gave the admin some tips, so we will see how good he can optimize the stock apps

22:38 <zombie67> but I doubt he has the expensive tools, plus he will not be able to use the more modern SSE* stuff

22:38 <MTughan> I'm gonna see what I can do with GCC...

22:38 <MTughan> GCC can do SSE, SSE2, SSE3, and SSSE3.

22:38 <zombie67> sure

22:38 <zombie67> but you can't use the results for the stock apps

22:38 <MTughan> Hmm?

22:39 <zombie67> not all machines have processors that have SSE3 (for example).

22:39 <zombie67> the stock app has to work with any processor

22:39 <MTughan> I'm on Intel Mac.

22:39 <MTughan> Remember, they started with Core Solos. :P

22:39 <zombie67> yes.  I am talking in general for windows and linus

22:39 <zombie67> linux

22:39 <MTughan> Ah, not doing Win or Linux at this point.

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22:40 <zombie67> MT, he just posted the source if you want to play with it.

22:40 <MTughan> I realized that. What do you think I'm compiling now? :P

22:40 <zombie67> heh

22:41 <MTughan> Just going to remake the BOINC libraries to a later version...

22:41 <zombie67> but it takes more than just GCC.  Crunch3r did some other stuff too.

22:41 <MTughan> Yeah, he has the ICC.

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22:45 <zombie67> At this time, I am using only his PPC op app.  He obviously has one for windows (you can see it at the opt of the machines list), but I don't have it.

22:45 <MTughan> Hmm, wonder what he did the PPC app with... ICC is Intel's compiler.

22:45 <zombie67> if you make a hot app for intel/osx, I will be more than happy to help test it.

22:46 <zombie67> like I said, he did more than just compiler stuff.

22:46 <MTughan> Well, if BOINC will make. I think DA fscked it up again.

22:46 <MTughan> Or somone.

22:46 <MTughan> someone*

22:46 <zombie67> I think he may have re-wrote or re-ordered stuff too

22:47 <zombie67> one thing for sure was a different way of doing random

22:48 <zombie67> nick may have fixed that in the code he just released

22:48 <MTughan> Hehe, I like my configure flags for BOINC...

22:48 <MTughan> ./configure --disable-server --disable-client --with-apple-opengl-framework CFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -O1" CXXFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -O1" CPPFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386 -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -I/Users/mtughan/boinc/jpeg/include" OBJCFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -arch i386

22:49 <MTughan> I don't think that'll fit all on a line... xD

22:49 <zombie67> that is SO over my head

22:49 <MTughan> Don't worry, takes me a bit to figure it out too. :P

22:49 <zombie67> Ive decided to try to concentrate on RCN, since it is nearing the end

22:51 <zombie67> problem is that I cannot use my 8-way doesn't know platform 'x86_64-apple-darwin'

22:51 <nickuwo> hey guys, you might want to redl the source, it had a few errors in it :)

22:51 <zombie67> hi nick!

22:52 <nickuwo> Hey zombie, hows it goin?

22:52 <zombie67> going fast!

22:52 <zombie67> Did you increase the size of the tasks?

22:53 <zombie67> I thought I read that in the forum, but I haven't seen it yet.

22:53 <nickuwo> not yet, probably let everyone crunch 10 min wus for a day or two just so they believe me when I say I optimized it :)

22:53 <nickuwo> oh, yea I did a bit, but it'll get increased again soon

22:54 <nickuwo> I'll try and keep the wu time around an hour eventually tho

22:54 <zombie67> yeah, if you optimize the stock app, then you will need to either decrease the credits, or increase the task size...other the credit police will scream

22:55 <zombie67> question:  for optimization, are you looking into SSE*?

22:55 <nickuwo> hehe :)

22:55 <zombie67> this is why I ask:

22:55 <nickuwo> I haven't no, how do you take advantage of that?

22:56 <zombie67> you can't requuire SSE2+ for the stock win or linux app, becase not all processors have it.

22:57 <nickuwo> ok

22:57 <zombie67> HOWEVER:  if you had a separate app for Win64 and Linux64, then you CAN use up to SSE2, because 64 bit OS won't run on any processor that does not also suppport SSE2

22:57 <zombie67> so at least 64 bit apps could take advantage of the extra speed

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22:58 <zombie67> also, all intel/osx support SSE3

22:58 <nickuwo> i believe the linux 64 version does already - that's what -ftree-vectorize does, no?

22:58 <zombie67> maybe MT could explain the benefit of SSE* and how to use it?  It's all WAY over my head

22:58 <zombie67> MTughan?

22:58 <Romulus> I guess MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, zombie67

22:59 <MTughan> It's a set of instructions for multimedia so that developers don't have to write that all themselves.

22:59 <MTughan> Basically.

22:59 <zombie67> yes, but how does that apply to BOINC apps?

23:00 <zombie67> foe example, the SETI app benefits a LOT by using SSE*

23:00 <MTughan> I don't quite know, but it does make it faster.

23:01 <zombie67> heh

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23:20 <nickuwo> alright, compiled the win64 with sse2

23:37 <zombie67> sweet!

23:37 <zombie67> is it faster?

23:37 <zombie67> than without SSE2?

23:40 <zombie67> different apps benefit differenlty from SSE*

23:40 <nickuwo> I haven't really benchmarked it... the version without took about 10 mins, i'll try the new one now...

23:40 <zombie67> you have a win64 mancine

23:40 <zombie67> machine?

23:40 <nickuwo> it's mostly integer math so, from what I've been reading, it might not be faster.

23:40 <nickuwo> ya

23:41 <zombie67> nice.

23:41 <zombie67> 13 of my 14 win machines are xp64

23:41 <nickuwo> sweet. no vista?

23:41 <zombie67> nope

23:41 <nickuwo> I like vista

23:42 <zombie67> i bought or built them before vista was stable

23:42 <nickuwo> ahh

23:42 <nickuwo> you got a 8 core dont ya?

23:42 <zombie67> three 8-core XP64, one 8-core OSX/Intel

23:43 <nickuwo> damn, thats awesome... those expensive?

23:43 <zombie67> not as much as you think.  Especially if you go through Dell referbs

23:44 <nickuwo> I'll have to check that out

23:44 <zombie67> of course, the mac *is* expensive....but no much more than an equally equipped new Dell

23:45 <zombie67> the mac is my daily use machine

23:45 <zombie67> the rest are just crunchers

23:45 <nickuwo> got them all sitting in a room somewhere?

23:45 <zombie67> in my garage

23:46 <zombie67> on a rack.

23:46 <nickuwo> nice

23:46 <zombie67> you know those chrome wire racks?

23:46 <zombie67> my OC machines are inside where they get the AC to keep them cool

23:47 <nickuwo> so how much $ in electricity are those costing ya?

23:48 <zombie67> WAY too much...I'm in CA.

23:48 <zombie67> I had to give away all my P4 machines...too expensive to run, with too little return

23:48 <nickuwo> hehe, i bet. You have a borderline supercomputer suckin up kW....

23:48 <zombie67> yep

23:49 <zombie67> the good news is that I am single, so no family to support

23:49 <zombie67> so this is how i spend my money

23:50 <zombie67> i see you pulled back the osx/ppc app?

23:51 <nickuwo> crunch3r compiled it for me, he said it had a bug. I'll prolly try to compile it myself soon

23:51 <zombie67> he has a lot of good knowledge

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23:51 <Tidus> heh, i know the feeling of a p4 machine...

23:52 <zombie67> yep.  I refuse to buy any more machines with less than 8 cores.

23:52 <Tidus> the netburst architecture was epic fail.

23:52 <zombie67> oh yeah

23:52 <zombie67> core 2 is amazing

23:53 <Tidus> when the p4 first came out, a P3-1.4 would outrun a p4 up to 1.8

23:53 <Tidus> and some 1.9's

23:53 <zombie67> yeah, my Pentium M was so much faster than a comperable P4

23:53 <Tidus> Linux Kilika 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #1 Wed Oct 1 03:37:20 CDT 2008 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

23:53 <Tidus> that's my daily use

23:54 <zombie67> I have a couple of X2 crunchers

23:56 <Tidus> i have this one and a celeron-D 3.2

23:56 <Tidus> which is surprisingly good on power for it being p4 bsed

23:56 <Tidus> based *

23:57 <Tidus> measured it with a Kill-A-Watt meter, and under full load while playing WoW on it, it's only sucking about 170W

23:57 <Tidus> if it's just CPU at full load, video card idle, it uses about 115

23:58 <Soul_keeper> kill-a-watt  is awesome

23:58 <zombie67> nice.  GPU crunching sucks HUGE watts

23:59 <Tidus> zombie67: my card's too old to do GPU crunching

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