IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-10-06

00:00 <Tidus> the card in that machine's just an old nvidia 6600gs

00:00 <Tidus> this one's just running off the Via integrated video

00:00 <zombie67> i am running a GTX 280 on PS3GRID

00:01 <zombie67> 9-12k/day

00:01 <Tidus> not too terrible... probably sucks down loads of juice tho

00:01 <nickuwo> damn, I'm very close to jealous (I got a 9800GX2)

00:02 <Tidus> lol

00:02 <Tidus> my next video card purchase is going to be an ati HD4850

00:02 <Tidus> very nice card for its price

00:02 <Tidus> and it's only a single slot solution

00:02 <Tidus> i'd actually prefer a 2-slot card tho... loads of heat dumped into the case on a single slot card

00:03 <Tidus> good thing my case has a pair of 120mm fans for exhaust... one in back, one topside

00:13 <zombie67> nickuwo:  so, is the 64 bit w/ SSE2 faster?

00:13 <nickuwo> oh yea, I forgot to check :)

00:14 <nickuwo> I think so - about 8 mins as opposed to 10ish

00:14 <nickuwo> 1/5 not bad

00:14 <MTughan> lol, nice... http://www.xkcd.com/

00:14 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Depth (at www.xkcd.com)

00:15 <zombie67> nice!

00:15 <MTughan> Take a look at the bottom: "Brian Green knitting furiously" xD

00:16 <nickuwo> xkcd hates on string theory hard

00:17 <MTughan> This was a couple days ago... http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php?d=20081005

00:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3ggsqx> (at www.ctrlaltdel-online.com)

00:21 <MTughan> Tidus: For the video cards, you can also check out the Radeon HD4870. I believe it's just a bit more and dual-slot.

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00:23 <MTughan> Grrr...

00:24 <MTughan> Did my last message about the Radeon HD4870 get through?

00:24 <nickuwo> ya

00:24 <MTughan> K, thanks.

00:24 <nickuwo> np

00:25 <MTughan> However, it seems that the 4870 is actually at least $80 more, because it makes the jump from GDDR3 to GDDR5 memory (from what I can see).

00:29 <Tidus> MTughan: yeah, it's quite a bit more

00:29 <Tidus> and quite a bit faster, and takes a bit more juice

00:34 <MTughan> Yeah, it's been a while since I last looked at the video cards. Something like three months. :P

00:34 <MTughan> But that's enough with the rate they're going.

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02:36 <MTughan> nickuwo: Thanks for the code on Ramsey. I haven't looked at it, but it dropped the crunch time per WU from 1:45 (hours:minutes) to less than 9 minutes. :D

02:37 <MTughan> BTW, I have optimized Intel and PPC versions if you want. Both should work with the lowest compatibility: 10.3.9 for PPC and 10.4.4 for Intel.

02:39 <Tank_Master> where can I get the better app? :P

02:39 <MTughan> This is for Mac, you Windows freak. :P

02:39 <Tank_Master> heh

02:40 <Tank_Master> id still like to get one for windows

02:40 <Tank_Master> crunch3r didnt respond when I asked for it...

02:40 <MTughan> Yeah, but you won't get it from me, and not because I don't have a Windows machine (I do). It's because I don't really want to touch Microsoft's compiler.

02:40 <Tank_Master> heh

02:41 <ELGono> true true MT ;)

02:42 <MTughan> I suppose I could always try MinGW, but I don't think it has much optimization support. I could be wrong though.

02:42 <Tank_Master> ill just poke crunch3r some more

02:42 <ELGono> hmm dunno either

02:44 <ELGono> &coffee

02:44 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

02:44 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

02:44 <MTughan> Dunno, it's quarter to 3 here... That's early morning.

02:45 <Tank_Master> lol

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02:50 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCTaskOdd.png WTF?

02:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4ur2ga> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

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02:51 <Tank_Master> haha

02:51 <Tank_Master> stbu

02:51 <MTughan> Hmm?

02:51 <Tank_Master> that not yours?

02:51 <MTughan> No, the two with partial progress are still crunching...

02:51 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:51 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:51 <Tank_Master> that is a bit odd...

02:52 <MTughan> All I did was request more work.

02:52 <MTughan> Unless... Maybe because I used a custom app without an app_info?

02:53 <Tank_Master> possably

02:57 <MTughan> Well... Added the app_info, it scrapped all the tasks. Rerequested work from ramsey, sent all the tasks again, happily on its way.

02:57 <Tank_Master> sweet

02:57 <MTughan> With 20 more to boot.

02:57 <Tank_Master> :D

02:58 <MTughan> At 25 credits a pop, ~9 minutes per WU...

02:58 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:58 <Tank_Master> I know

02:58 <Tank_Master> reminds me of tsp

02:58 <Tank_Master> I found a way to keep getting work

02:58 <MTughan> &math convert 9 minutes to days

02:58 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.00625

02:59 <MTughan> &math 50 / 0.00625

02:59 <Romulus> MTughan: 8000

02:59 <MTughan> :D

02:59 <Tank_Master> :P

02:59 <MTughan> 50 because I can crunch two at a time.

02:59 <Tank_Master> right

02:59 <MTughan> Me like...

02:59 <Tank_Master> you wanna know something sad?

02:59 <MTughan> He's going to up the WU time, right?

02:59 <Tank_Master> my quad can still match that unptimized

02:59 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:59 <MTughan> Ah...

03:00 <MTughan> Remember, this is a Core Duo 2.0GHz.

03:00 <Tank_Master> cruncher compieled a gpu app today

03:00 <Tank_Master> still testing it though

03:00 <MTughan> I can always try it on my Core 2 Duo 2.5GHz too...

03:00 <Tank_Master> but he thinks ramsey will do quite will on it

03:00 <MTughan> Won't anything do quite well on a GPU? :P

03:01 <MTughan> Wait... "quite will"? :P

03:01 <Tank_Master> well

03:01 <Tank_Master> not anything

03:01 <MTughan> You know I'm tired, because it took me 5 seconds to notice that...

03:01 <Tank_Master> but probably most of what we run

03:01 <Tank_Master> lol

03:03 <MTughan> Well, I'll just wait until these next two WUs are done (I think it'll be sub-8 minutes), and then I'm off to bed.

03:05 <MTughan> Nope... 8:22 and 8:42. Close enough for me. Night.

03:07 <Tank_Master> gn

03:08 <MTughan> Holy crap, it downloaded 85 Ramsey tasks...

03:08 <MTughan> &math convert [math calc 85 * 9 / 2] minutes to hours

03:08 <Romulus> MTughan: 6.375

03:08 <MTughan> And suddenly that doesn't seem like so much...

03:10 <MTughan> ... Don't ask. http://www.explosm.net/comics/1422/

03:10 <Romulus> Title: Comics - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)

03:16 <ELGono> hehe i just keep silent

03:18 <Tank_Master> lol

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04:35 <CoderForLife> breakfast time   brb

04:35 <Tank_Master> damn

04:35 <Soul_keeper> excellent

04:35 <Tank_Master> its 1:35, I should go to bed

04:35 <KathrynM> dinner is on the way

04:36 <Tank_Master> lol

04:41 <CoderForLife> b

04:42 <CoderForLife> morning Tank_Master Soul_keeper KathrynM clusty

04:42 <Soul_keeper> hey

04:43 <Tidus> what's up?

04:43 <CoderForLife> hey Tidus - I'm up =)

04:43 <Tidus> cool

04:44 <CoderForLife> fairly so - 57F

04:44 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 3.6 billion to million

04:44 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: billion is not a valid unit.

04:44 <Tank_Master> lol

04:45 <Tank_Master> rommie cant count that high

04:45 <Soul_keeper> &currency convert 3.6 billion to million

04:45 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: Currency must be denoted by its three-letter symbol.

04:45 <Soul_keeper> ohhh well

04:46 <Soul_keeper> what is the exchange rate if  3.6 billion of an imaginary currency equals 3.6 million USD ?

04:46 <Tank_Master> 3245873256298592835692365897234679325432897073298602

04:47 <Tidus> 1000 to 1

04:48 <Soul_keeper> ok

04:49 <Soul_keeper> 100 to 1    360 million was the second number, i made a typo

04:49 <Soul_keeper> http://www.entropiauniverse.com/index.var    just looking at this

04:49 <Romulus> Title: Entropia Universe (at www.entropiauniverse.com)

04:52 <ELGono> Real world currencies may be transferred into your secure Entropia Universe account where they are then exchanged into PED. The PED currency is directly connected to the real world economy through a fixed exchange rate with the US dollar, where 10 PED = 1US$. So if you deposit 10 US dollars, you will have 100 PED availabel to use In-World. For a full list of deposit options, please read the  Deposit section.

04:52 <ELGono> looks like $$$

04:52 <ELGono> this is weird

04:54 <Soul_keeper> they had a documentary about video game culture on the science channel the other month, apparently some lady makes like 90k a month in that game selling virtual clothing ...

04:54 <Soul_keeper> crazy stuff

04:54 <Tank_Master> lol

04:54 <Tank_Master> second life?

04:55 <Soul_keeper> 90k a year*  sorry

04:55 <Soul_keeper> was one of these games

04:55 <CoderForLife> this one keeps me busy enough

04:55 <Tank_Master> still not to bad

04:55 <Tank_Master> boinc?

04:55 <Romulus> boinc is all perfect and stuff, Tank_Master

04:55 * Tank_Master burns Romulus's house down

04:55 <Soul_keeper> they probably make the money off of young kid's lunch money ...

04:56 <Tank_Master> lol

04:56 <CoderForLife> Spit was playing Entropia

04:56 <Soul_keeper> all the young kids want to buy something from the girl i bet

04:56 <Soul_keeper> cool

04:59 <Tidus> so where is spit anyways?

04:59 <Soul_keeper> i bet the game is kinda like china or mexico ....  you convert your money like 10 or 100 to 1   then open a sweat shop and rake in the dough

05:00 <Soul_keeper> lol

05:00 <Tank_Master> :P

05:01 <CoderForLife> Spit is too long gone

05:09 <ELGono> :(

05:09 <ELGono> indeed

05:12 <Soul_keeper> sethy  apparently has her phone number ...

05:12 <Tank_Master> nice

05:12 <CoderForLife> he's called her a few times

05:13 <Soul_keeper> i wish i hadn't lost my irc logs ...

05:13 <Soul_keeper> i had a few years worth

05:13 <CoderForLife> the last status as I understood it was that her boxes were dying, and she's forgotten how to do IRC

05:13 <Soul_keeper> ahh

05:14 <Soul_keeper> yeah every legitimate channel needs females :)

05:15 <CoderForLife> we seem to have recently lost benje and BiteAbleKat

05:15 <Tank_Master> lol sk

05:16 <Soul_keeper> somebody isn't being nice enough to them it seems ...

05:16 <CoderForLife> well, that's a factor...

05:16 <KathrynM> thank goodness you guys have me

05:16 <Tank_Master> LOL

05:16 <Tank_Master> no kiddin

05:16 <CoderForLife> I was just going to thank you KathrynM

05:16 <Soul_keeper> KathrynM, yes you are the best, we would be lost without you :)

05:16 <Tank_Master> :D

05:16 * KathrynM bows

05:16 <Tank_Master> gaa

05:16 <KathrynM> I keep this place clean

05:16 <Tank_Master> I so read that wrong

05:17 <CoderForLife> zackaly KathrynM

05:17 <Tank_Master> (add an L in that)

05:17 <Tank_Master> KathrynM blows... <- yeah, I need sleep

05:18 <CoderForLife> to the point, Tank_Master

05:18 <KathrynM> speaking of cleaning, I need to do my laundry and dishes

05:18 <KathrynM> bbiab

05:18 <Tank_Master> hf

05:20 <Soul_keeper> what date are the elections on ?

05:20 <Soul_keeper> 11/11 ?

05:20 <Tank_Master> 11/4

05:20 <Soul_keeper> ok

05:20 <Tank_Master> always the first tues in nov

05:21 * Tank_Master cant wait for the 5th

05:21 <Tank_Master> all this political crap will be over with

05:21 <CoderForLife> the end of the world

05:21 <Tank_Master> for a few months anyway

05:21 <Soul_keeper> palin is doing well, they are finally bringing to light obama's shady connections with  ayers and resko

05:23 <CoderForLife> too late, possibly

05:24 <Soul_keeper> yeah mccain hasn't really done any speaking, and now he has palin doing all the speaking

05:24 <CoderForLife> I am very depressed

05:24 <Tank_Master> with the stuff comming out on oboma lately, its supprising that the dumycrats elected him to run

05:24 <Tidus> CoderForLife: why are ya depressed?

05:25 <Soul_keeper> mccain has already conceided that he's not a good public speaker,  i think that shouldn't stop him from trying tho,   the people understand such things.   they let bush get elected when he spoke ...

05:25 <Tank_Master> lol

05:25 <Soul_keeper> the democrats made a grave mistake by not doing their homework on obama

05:26 <Tank_Master> yeah

05:26 <CoderForLife> people don't know why they're going to vote for Obama

05:26 <Tank_Master> but they have the nedia to protect them

05:26 <Tank_Master> media*

05:26 <Tank_Master> cept fox, that is

05:26 <CoderForLife> I guess Marxism is cool these days

05:27 <Tank_Master> lol

05:27 <Soul_keeper> yeah

05:27 <Tank_Master> its ok to look into McCain's past for bad stuff, but not oboma

05:28 <Soul_keeper> they defeated kerry when they found out he had come back from the war and thrown his metals on the white house lawn ...  the democrats called this "swift boat politics"  i believe

05:29 <CoderForLife> well, time to get ready for w@#%, before the fall of western civilization

05:29 <Tank_Master> hf

05:29 <Soul_keeper> obama will thro up the   "say no to swift boat politics"  after everything that is brought up about his past now

05:29 <Soul_keeper> ok ttyl

05:29 <CoderForLife> have to create something of value to surrender to the Chinese and terrorists

05:30 <Soul_keeper> figures :(

05:30 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:45 <xcamel> boo

05:46 * Tank_Master sends hordes of lemmings over xcamel

06:01 <clusty> CoderForLife, moin....

06:01 <clusty> sooo happy

06:01 <clusty> first beta run of my boinc project went well

06:11 <Tank_Master> sweet

06:11 <Tank_Master> what project?

06:11 <Romulus> Somebody said what project are we talking about, Tank_Master

06:16 <Tidus> wow rommie... that was ... extreemly redundant.

06:17 <Tank_Master> no shyt

06:17 <Tank_Master> :P

06:17 <CoderForLife> doubly redundant

06:17 <Tank_Master> thats rommie for you

06:17 <CoderForLife> from the Department of Redundancies Department

06:17 * Tidus smacks Romulus with a dead trout.

06:17 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around with a pink Macintosh

06:18 <Tidus> lol\

06:18 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed

06:18 <CoderForLife> cya

06:18 <KathrynM> We'd all be lost if we didn't have rommie to make fun of

06:18 <Tank_Master> gn

06:18 <Tank_Master> lol

06:18 <Tidus> seeya TM

06:18 <Tidus> CoderForLife: http://tidus.alive-awake.com/photos/?Qwd=./Screenshots/Linux&Qif=XFCE_10052008.png&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M&Qtmp=FS

06:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4g4z87> (at tidus.alive-awake.com)

06:19 <Tidus> clicky

06:19 <Tidus> my current desktop setup

06:19 <CoderForLife> clickying

06:19 <CoderForLife> nice - looks familiar

06:20 <Tidus> what looks familiar?

06:20 <CoderForLife> background

06:20 <CoderForLife> desktop

06:20 <KathrynM> ugh.  I just realized I need to do battle with fstab.  Ugh Ugh UGH

06:21 * Tidus comforts, patpats KathrynM

06:21 <CoderForLife> just fstab it

06:21 <Tidus> CoderForLife: i dunno, i just found that somewhere on deviantart and used it

06:21 <CoderForLife> it'll never threaten you again

06:21 <Tidus> that's my current desktop setup though

06:21 <Tidus> gentoo linux, XFCE4 is the desktop environment in use

06:21 <KathrynM> big mosquito smoosh!

06:22 <KathrynM> w.t.f....  UUID=b71feac5-42a1-497c-b4ad-ea5f35f4fa24 /                       ext3    defaults        1 1

06:22 <KathrynM> where the hell did that UUID crap come from?

06:23 <CoderForLife> universally unique identifier

06:23 <KathrynM> uh huh... surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

06:23 <KathrynM> what was wrong with sda1?

06:23 <KathrynM> just when I think I understand stuff, it chnages

06:23 * CoderForLife is usually trustworthy on acronyms

06:24 <KathrynM> :)

06:24 <KathrynM> Please tell me I don't have to install the OS (yet again) to get my data partition in fstab.

06:24 <KathrynM> I forgot it the last time I did it

06:25 <CoderForLife> ok - I won't

06:25 <KathrynM> gee thanks

06:25 <KathrynM> So I should pull out my CD, huh?

06:25 <CoderForLife> oh, please *do*, you say

06:25 <CoderForLife> I thought you said "please don't tell me..."

06:26 <CoderForLife> I'm a bit lysdexic this morning

06:26 <Tidus> KathrynM: what distro are you using?

06:26 <KathrynM> Fedora 9

06:26 <KathrynM> What's the worst that could happen if I add..

06:26 <KathrynM> /dev/sda2               /Data                   vfat    rw,noauto,user  0 0

06:26 <CoderForLife> a *real* distro

06:26 <KathrynM> to my fstab and reboot?

06:27 <Tidus> most recent distros use the UUID stuff so if a disks location changes, it can still mount the volume

06:27 <CoderForLife> I have never edited fstab

06:27 <KathrynM> This just changed between F8 and F9

06:27 <Tidus> ubuntu's been using that for ages

06:27 <Tidus> and KathrynM you don't even have to reboot when you add that line to fstab

06:27 <CoderForLife> I started with RH 4.3

06:27 <Tidus> simply add the line, then execute 'mount -a'

06:28 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.com/m41b90405

06:28 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

06:28 <KathrynM> that's what I had with F8

06:29 <Tidus> yeah, most distros now use UUID so that if say sda miraculously becomes sdb due to you adding a disk, it can still mount it and boot up

06:29 <KathrynM> *sigh*

06:29 <CoderForLife> ah, I see the problem:  Vista

06:29 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.com/m3a5dd665

06:29 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

06:29 <KathrynM> that's the current one

06:30 <Tidus> http://pastebin.com/d2bc85e89

06:30 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

06:30 <Tidus> that's mine

06:30 <Tidus> and there's nothing wrong with your current one

06:31 <KathrynM> I didn't think there was anything wrong with the current one (aside from the lack of /Data, which is my fault)

06:31 <CoderForLife> well. off into the Outer Darkness

06:31 <Tidus> just add the line that you need, then execute mount -a

06:31 <Tidus> CoderForLife: seeya

06:31 <CoderForLife> good luck KathrynM

06:31 <CoderForLife> cya Tidus

06:31 <KathrynM> Will it really screw things up having a mix of UUID and /sda?

06:31 <KathrynM> laters CoderForLife

06:32 <Tidus> KathrynM: no, it won't mess anything up

06:32 <KathrynM> k

06:32 <Tidus> and you don't even have to reboot when the change is done

06:32 <KathrynM> cool

06:32 <Tidus> just edit fstab

06:33 <Tidus> then 'mkdir /Data && chmod 1777 /Data && mount -a

06:33 <Tidus> without that opening singlequote

06:34 <KathrynM> that as myself or root?

06:34 <Tidus> root

06:34 <Tidus> the chmod line to ensure users can traverse into /Data

06:35 <Tidus> wow, i forgot a word... that rarely happens

06:35 <Tidus> the chmod line *is* blahblahblah

06:36 <KathrynM> awesome

06:36 <KathrynM> worked like a charm

06:37 <Tidus> cool

06:40 <Tidus> KathrynM: did you see my screenshot?

06:41 <KathrynM> yeah

06:41 <KathrynM> nice

06:42 <Tidus> gentoo / XFCE4

06:42 <Tidus> minimal, yet still able to be tweaked to look like i want it

06:43 <KathrynM> I'm now on KDE4 and I'm still trying to get used to it

06:43 <Tidus> heh

06:43 <Tidus> i never could get used to kde4

06:44 <KathrynM> It just behaves weird

06:50 <Soul_keeper> xfce is great

06:50 <Soul_keeper> to me it delivers what enlightenment always promised, and is very light

06:51 <KathrynM> If I can't get used to the new KDE, I may try it.

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06:52 <clusty> Tank_Master, i am slow today :D....

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06:53 <clusty> Tank_Master, large scale optimisations. if you wish i could tell you more detailed

06:53 <clusty> for now it's open to public

06:54 <KathrynM> do give us a URL

06:56 <KathrynM> http://esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com/

06:56 <Romulus> Title: ESL Teaching (at esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com)

06:56 <KathrynM> finally got a new post up

06:56 <clusty> no description so far

06:57 <clusty> cute. do you maintain the site kath?

06:57 <KathrynM> yeah

06:57 <KathrynM> their my kids

06:57 <KathrynM> It's the photog companion to my teaching blog http://esladventures.wordpress.com/

06:57 <Romulus> Title: ESL Adventures (at esladventures.wordpress.com)

06:57 <clusty> btw

06:58 <clusty> i ment to ask you something

06:58 <KathrynM> yes

06:58 <clusty> ever was curious to check out N korea?

06:58 <KathrynM> not really

06:58 <clusty> saw on news they are allowing tourists

06:58 <KathrynM> I don't think Americans are allowed in.

06:58 <KathrynM> At least that's the rumor I've heard

06:58 <clusty> you are the filthy imperialist enemy ey

06:58 <clusty> :D

06:59 <KathrynM> lol

06:59 <clusty> wouldn't you wish you had a pass from a banana republic?

06:59 <clusty> i'll trade you my RO pass for your US one :D

07:00 <clusty> ...about kde4

07:00 <clusty> i bloody hate it

07:00 <KathrynM> yeah, I understand that

07:00 <clusty> with every fiber of my being

07:00 <KathrynM> lol

07:00 <KathrynM> The whole widget thing gets me.

07:00 <clusty> nothing is where it should be

07:00 <KathrynM> When I save something to the desktop, I want to frigging see it on the desktop

07:00 <clusty> could nto find the advanced settings

07:01 <KathrynM> With KDE3(?) if I put a window on Desktop 2, it didn't show in the task bar when I was on Desktop 1

07:01 <KathrynM> IT does not with KDE4.

07:01 <clusty> to satisfy my fooling around, stuck to gnome ubuntu but installed ubuntu-studio looks :D

07:01 <KathrynM> I despise Gnome even more

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07:04 <clusty> it's ok

07:04 <clusty> but slow as hell

07:04 <clusty> and no real alternative

07:04 <clusty> not in the mood for a minimalistic WM

07:04 <clusty> used to be a fluxbox exponent

07:04 <clusty> when i had junk for PC

07:04 <clusty> now using compiz with full throttle effects :D

07:04 <clusty> almost as weee as OS X

07:04 <clusty> :D

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07:06 <clusty> good old split....

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07:06 <KathrynM> whoa

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07:08 <KathrynM> gah

07:08 <KathrynM> flash videos work, but sound doesn't

07:08 <KathrynM> this used to just work

07:09 <KathrynM> dman it.  sound is more screwed up than it was before

07:09 <KathrynM> bbiab

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07:12 <kathrynM> I can't believe this.  Now Firefox won't even start.

07:13 <kathrynM> I'm this close to going back to F8.

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07:20 <Tidus> sound is due to F9 using pulse by default

07:21 <kathrynM> sound has been goofy since F7

07:21 <kathrynM> I'm too tired to futz with it now

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07:25 <hawmps> 'lo

07:34 <dmh65> I am now the proud founder of the Wales team at rosetta home :)

07:34 <dmh65> all must bow to me lol

07:34 <dmh65> is there a rosetta irc channel?

07:36 <dmh65> btw, for Linux users I recommend the Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex beat, works great for me

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07:36 <dmh65> *beta

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10:19 <MTughan> Gah, that was annoying... Class at 11:30AM, fire alarm test at 10AM...

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13:39 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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13:45 <Tank_Master> mornin

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14:43 <MTughan_> &math 255 ** 3

14:43 <Romulus> MTughan_: 16581375

14:43 <MTughan_> Nice...

14:43 <MTughan_> &math 256 ** 3

14:43 <Romulus> MTughan_: 16777216

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14:52 <MTughan_> &math 255 / 1.3

14:52 <Romulus> MTughan_: 196.153846154

14:53 <MTughan_> Rommie's my convenient calculator...

14:53 <Tidus> i can tell

14:53 <MTughan_> :P

14:53 <MTughan_> Python class.

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15:08 <hawmps> &wx 12020

15:08 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 50.2F / 10.1C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. The high in the mid 50s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Areas of frost after midnight. The low in the mid 30s. Northwest (1 more message)

15:08 <hawmps> &more

15:08 <Romulus> hawmps: winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Areas of frost in the morning. Sunny. The high around 60. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Frost Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 07, 2008;

15:17 <PovAddict_> &math calc 1+2j * 2+4j

15:17 <Romulus> PovAddict_: 1+8i

15:18 <PovAddict_> &math calc 2+2j / 2+4j

15:18 <Romulus> PovAddict_: 2+5i

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16:05 <MTughan> Wow... Power settings on the laptop can really hurt BOINC. As in when it turns a 2.5GHz processor into a 1.5GHz.

16:05 <MTughan> It was running incredibly cool...

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16:28 <xcamel> 'lo

16:34 <xcamel> bbl..

16:51 <CoderForLife> g'evenin'

16:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 76.8F / 24.9C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds around 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with (1 more message)

16:59 <CoderForLife> &more

16:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: a chance of thunderstorms...mainly after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

17:00 <CoderForLife> gee, I forget what thunder sounds like

17:01 <CoderForLife> eating dinner - bbiab

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17:13 <CoderForLife> _o/ PovAddict

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17:33 <xcamel> re-hi

17:36 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

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18:16 <xcamel> re-re-hi

18:17 <wdsmia_> *lo Jay

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18:17 <CoderForLife> re-hi

18:17 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

18:18 <wdsmia> *lo Don

18:18 * CoderForLife glances at the ceiling again

18:19 <xcamel> wazzup?

18:19 <CoderForLife> you get them straightened out in DC?

18:20 <xcamel> never got that close.

18:21 <CoderForLife> ah, got lost on the Beltway, like I did?

18:21 <xcamel> I did shred a couple libs that injected themselves into a private conversation I was having though...

18:22 <CoderForLife> cross-cut shredder, I hope

18:22 <xcamel> and had a wonderful chat with the "Newt"

18:22 <CoderForLife> Gingrich?

18:23 <xcamel> the one and only..

18:23 <CoderForLife> excellent =)

18:24 <CoderForLife> he's a smart guy

18:25 <CoderForLife> did you get seated next to him?

18:25 <xcamel> My IQ went up 7 points just being in the conversation...

18:25 <CoderForLife> lol

18:25 <xcamel> He was the keynote speaker at out event

18:25 <CoderForLife> ah

18:26 <CoderForLife> how long were you able to talk to him?

18:26 <xcamel> 10 minutes..

18:26 <CoderForLife> awesome

18:27 <xcamel> pretty good return on investment..

18:27 <CoderForLife> I bet

18:30 <xcamel> Got a signed copy of the "American Solutions" material for Chris

18:30 <xcamel> ooh... gonna get cold tonight

18:30 <CoderForLife> good.. and seasonal...

18:31 <xcamel> already down to 43

18:31 <CoderForLife> 77 here or thereabouts

18:31 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 72.1F / 22.3C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds around 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with (1 more message)

18:32 <CoderForLife> ok  72

18:32 <xcamel> that's supposed to be here thursday

18:32 <CoderForLife> going to rain - finally

18:33 <xcamel> oh - went to the udaz-hazy air and space museum (A&S west) - it was awesome...

18:33 <CoderForLife> nice

18:34 <CoderForLife> see any Curtiss'es?

18:34 <xcamel> all of the Smithsonian's big planes - including Air France SB2

18:34 <xcamel> and the Enola Gay

18:34 <CoderForLife> kaboom

18:35 <xcamel> gig-a-boom

18:35 <CoderForLife> a won a game of trivial pursuit with that answer one time =)

18:36 <xcamel> and an SR-71 inside too...

18:36 <CoderForLife> neat

18:36 <CoderForLife> I bet it was black

18:36 <xcamel> very

18:36 <CoderForLife> =)

18:38 * CoderForLife w@#%s on the Q3 budget replan

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18:46 <bigt0242000> hey

18:46 <CoderForLife> hey

18:47 <bigt0242000> how's it?

18:47 * CoderForLife checks it

18:47 <bigt0242000> lo

18:47 <CoderForLife> it seems fine to me

18:47 <bigt0242000> good

18:49 <CoderForLife> how's your it?

18:50 <bigt0242000> it's going good

18:50 <CoderForLife> excellent

18:50 * kathrynM yawns

18:50 <xcamel> 'lo K

18:50 <CoderForLife> morning kathrynM

18:51 <bigt0242000> mornin' kat

18:51 <CoderForLife> time to get your it together and go to w@#%?

18:51 <bigt0242000> XD

18:51 <bigt0242000> my it just got home from work

18:51 <kathrynM> nearly

18:52 <kathrynM> I get to go to the park today and have fun with the kids.

18:52 <kathrynM> Aren't I excited....

18:52 <kathrynM> NOT

18:52 <bigt0242000> ah come on kat. what's wrong with going to the park?

18:52 <xcamel> SouthPark..

18:53 <kathrynM> with 150 kids?

18:53 <kathrynM> you gotta be kidding me

18:53 <xcamel> watch out for cartman...

18:53 <kathrynM> lol

18:53 <bigt0242000> i would rather go to the park than go to work

18:53 <kathrynM> So would I, but in this case park = work.

18:54 <bigt0242000> i would come take your place but I don't know where you are

18:54 <kathrynM> wanna fly to Korea?

18:54 <CoderForLife> are you feeling a little camel-case challenged this morning, kathrynM?  (no offense xcamel)

18:54 <kathrynM> It's not 8:00 yet

18:54 <bigt0242000> lol i'll be there in 12 hrs

18:54 <kathrynM> I'm always a little challenged

18:55 <bigt0242000> im on the other side of the globe

18:56 <xcamel> The P2P kids we met yesterday were flying to HongKong from DC - Via Bejing

18:57 <bigt0242000> boy that's a long flight

18:57 <bigt0242000> take me 3hrs to fly from atlanta to DC

18:58 <kathrynM> I recently did Detroit to Tokyo.  12 hours in that flying death trap, with horrible turbulance the last 2 hours into Tokyo

18:59 <bigt0242000> lol

18:59 <xcamel> I think that flight is 13H +3H

19:00 <xcamel> "kidz iz toughz"

19:00 <CoderForLife> only the young can do that

19:00 <kathrynM> tougher than me

19:02 * CoderForLife is reviewing the Q3 budget replan, which is driving him to drink

19:02 <CoderForLife> brb  need beverage

19:02 <PovAddict> non-alcoholic beverage?

19:02 <CoderForLife> always

19:03 <xcamel> reset all important numbers to zero

19:03 <xcamel> and a zero to all the unimportant ones.

19:03 <CoderForLife> good idea - I'll start with the salary accounts

19:03 <xcamel> er add a zero

19:04 <xcamel> that's how fannie/freddie worked..

19:04 <CoderForLife> I'll pump up miscellanous expense with the delta

19:04 <xcamel> OBTW...

19:05 <xcamel> http://www.prweb.com/releases/Home_Channel_News/ProDealer/prweb1168174.htm

19:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4nhcan> (at www.prweb.com)

19:14 * CoderForLife returns en-beveraged

19:14 <PovAddict> better than "drunk" :)

19:14 <xcamel> check da link

19:14 <CoderForLife> hey congrats!

19:14 * xcamel bows

19:14 <CoderForLife> is that where you went?

19:14 <xcamel> uh-huh

19:15 <PovAddict> :o

19:15 <CoderForLife> "I see", said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw

19:16 <CoderForLife> Gregory mention... good

19:16 <xcamel> also cool >> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/06/astronomers-find-a-planet-denser-than-lead/

19:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4fcmpb> (at blogs.discovermagazine.com)

19:16 <CoderForLife> how's the gregory brand holding up?

19:16 <xcamel> switched over now...

19:17 <CoderForLife> ah

19:17 <CoderForLife> what's this? a neutron planet?

19:18 <xcamel> they really don't know...

19:18 <xcamel> but man what a bowling ball...

19:20 <CoderForLife> don't strike a match

19:21 <CoderForLife> wouldn't take much to kick over the fusion engine

19:23 <xcamel> or it's inert Bismuth

19:23 <xcamel> or polonium

19:24 * CoderForLife grabs his pocket Table of the Elements

19:24 <CoderForLife> um-hmm

19:25 * CoderForLife puts his pocket TotE back next to his pocket US Constitution

19:28 <bigt0242000> XD

19:28 <xcamel> hurl that thing into a whit dwarf and it would put it out.

19:31 <xcamel> 4.2x10^64 tons

19:32 <CoderForLife> sounds like the amount of fill in my retaining wall

19:32 <PovAddict> lol

19:32 <CoderForLife> ... approximately ...

19:37 <xcamel> anyway... it was a great conference - we also won the NLMBDA award for safety innovation

19:38 <CoderForLife> excellent

19:38 <CoderForLife> I know safety is a focus

19:38 <xcamel> ...which I did not know about until I received it...

19:39 <CoderForLife> be careful of empowered employees, they'll lead you to success

19:40 <xcamel> I found that out..

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19:46 <CoderForLife> moo efc

19:49 <CoderForLife> well. I've done about all the damage I can do to the budget

19:49 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:49 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go out on the deck, and contemplate the universe of a bit

19:50 <CoderForLife> for* a bit

19:50 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:54 <bigt0242000> see ya cfl

19:57 <xcamel> get a good scope..

19:58 <xcamel> Nice:

19:58 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap081006.html

19:58 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 October 6 - Layers of Cliffs in Northern Mars (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

20:00 <Tank_Master> perty

20:00 <xcamel> yes indeed

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20:08 <efc> moo

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20:16 <Tank_Master> hey

20:16 * xcamel yawns

20:19 * bigt0242000 yawns

20:20 * PovAddict eats a cookie

20:20 * Tank_Master steals PovAddict's cookies. mwahaha!

20:21 <bigt0242000> lol

20:21 <Tank_Master> :D

20:21 * kathrynM yawns some more

20:22 * Tank_Master watches kathrynM in awh

20:27 <kathrynM> Off to w&@%

20:27 <kathrynM> and the park

20:27 <kathrynM> laters

20:27 <bigt0242000> see ya

20:28 <PovAddict> one and the same :)

20:28 <PovAddict> bye

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20:29 * xcamel had cookies earlier..

20:34 <xcamel> and a big coffee...

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20:58 <xcamel> down to 39F - officially cold now

20:58 <bigt0242000> burrrrrr

20:59 <wdsmia> time to stoke up the pellet furnace

21:01 <xcamel> indeed.

21:02 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

21:02 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 64.8F / 18.2C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 7.2mph / 11.6km/h ; Tonight - Widespread showers and isolated thunderstorms. Low around 60. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely (1 more message)

21:02 <wdsmia> &more

21:02 <Romulus> wdsmia: and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. Cooler. High in the mid 60s. South wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the north 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Cooler. Low in the mid 40s. North wind 5 to 15 mph.;

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21:32 <xcamel> 'lo Q

21:33 <efc> moo

21:33 <xcamel> guess he's not really awake yet..

21:34 * efc hungry

21:36 <xcamel> icecream later..

21:36 <xcamel> goes with whatever is on the science channel

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21:42 <MTughan> Nope, automated. ;)

21:44 <xcamel> autotomatonatided

21:45 <MTughan> That's one way of thinking about it...

21:52 * xcamel yawns again

21:55 <xcamel> later folks..

22:05 <Tank_Master> tc

22:07 <nickuwo> whats shakin tank

22:10 <Tank_Master> not much

22:10 <Tank_Master> you?

22:10 <Romulus> Somebody said you are upper fayl, Tank_Master

22:11 <Tank_Master> rommie, stop talking about yourself

22:11 <MTughan> He specifically referenced you. :P

22:11 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around with a large Carp

22:11 <Tank_Master> he mispoke

22:11 <MTughan> Oh no, not this again...

22:12 <nickuwo> nada

22:12 <nickuwo> slapfest?

22:14 <Tank_Master> :P

22:14 <Tank_Master> few days ago he'd kick me and id rejoin

22:14 <Tank_Master> repeadly went on

22:14 <wdsmia> &insult Tank_Master

22:14 <Romulus> Tank_Master - You are nothing but an unintelligent bucket of dizzy-eyed poopy.

22:14 <MTughan> I don't remember that... I wish I did!

22:17 <PovAddict> I think &insult should have more stuff

22:17 <PovAddict> like

22:17 <PovAddict> "you're so fat you use the LHC as a belt"

22:18 <nickuwo> nice

22:18 <wdsmia> lol

22:18 <nickuwo> boinc style insults

22:18 <efc> Yo mama so fat if she inhales she collapses into a singularity?

22:20 <MTughan> Nice way to kill the conversation there efc...

22:21 <Tank_Master> yo mama is so fat, then she goes to the beach, greenpeace tries to push her out to sea

22:21 <nickuwo> awesome

22:22 <nickuwo> What do the townies say about the blind prostitute?

22:22 <efc> Yo mama so ugly, if ugly were bricks, she be a housing project

22:23 <bigt0242000> XD

22:23 <Tank_Master> dunno, what, nickuwo?

22:23 <nickuwo> she couldn't see dick.

22:24 <Tank_Master> lol

22:25 <wdsmia> Yo mama so fat she sat on a quarter and a booger shot out of george washington's nose.

22:25 <Tank_Master> lol

22:25 <bigt0242000> http://www.sadtrombone.com/

22:25 <Tank_Master> nice

22:25 <Romulus> Title: Sad Trombone (at www.sadtrombone.com)

22:28 <bigt0242000> http://www.instantrimshot.com/

22:28 <Romulus> Title: Instant Rimshot (at www.instantrimshot.com)

22:28 <MTughan> lol... bigt0242000: Google searches? xD

22:28 <bigt0242000> na heard about them in a podcast

22:32 <efc> http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news159.html

22:34 <bigt0242000> well so much for watching that

22:36 <bigt0242000> later guys

22:36 <Tank_Master> c-ya

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23:09 <PovAddict> efc: http://code.google.com/p/synecdoche/issues/detail?id=28

23:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/538q5a> (at code.google.com)

23:21 <efc> Nice

23:22 <efc> Though, i don't think I was asking for updates..

23:22 <PovAddict> it seems *volatile*

23:22 <PovAddict> shake it enough and network gets enabled

23:26 <efc> Ah. Most of the time I only notice it because I'm playing quake on another machine and it lags me out.

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