IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-10-07

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04:20 <Tidus> CoderForLife: you up?

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04:29 <CoderForLife> morning Tidus

04:29 <CoderForLife> oops

04:29 <CoderForLife> I just got up

04:34 <Tank_Master> I should go to bed

04:34 <CoderForLife> it's not a bad place

04:37 <Tank_Master> especually when theres a female in it

04:39 <CoderForLife> unless they are taking up the whole bed

04:39 <Tank_Master> true

04:52 <CoderForLife> brb   breakfast

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04:53 <CoderForLife> brb

05:00 <CoderForLife> b

05:03 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:03 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 53.7F / 12.1C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 (1 more message)

05:03 <CoderForLife> &more

05:03 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Wednesday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Cooler with highs in the upper 60s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

05:25 <Tidus> hooray

05:28 <CoderForLife> Who's Ray?

05:28 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

05:45 <xcamel> boo..

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05:46 <clusty> hey

05:47 <xcamel> 'lo

05:52 <quail> g'evening all

05:52 <quail> xcamel: ping

05:53 <clusty> gosh

05:53 <clusty> any clue why i am getting that the host reached its daily quota?

05:53 <clusty> does it have any connection with nr of failed WUs?

05:58 <Tank_Master> if you have several filed WUs, your daily quota is reduced

05:58 <KathrynM> failed or invalid workunits

05:58 <quail> clusty: maybe your system is cranking out the WU's fast

05:58 <Tank_Master> but it also increases with each sucessful WU

05:58 <clusty> ok

05:58 <clusty> its my project

05:58 <KathrynM> decreases by one for each bad one

05:59 <KathrynM> doubles the quota with each good one back to the max

05:59 <Tank_Master> ahh

05:59 <clusty> i have 20 pc's

05:59 * KathrynM bows

05:59 <clusty> and 3 of them reached 500 wus

05:59 <Tank_Master> is it open to the public?

05:59 <clusty> i found where to change that value but did not work out

06:00 <clusty> Tank_Master, not yet

06:00 <Tank_Master> ok

06:00 <clusty> besides taking 900MB of ram

06:00 <clusty> :D

06:00 <Tank_Master> so?

06:00 <Romulus> Rumor has it so is iStat, Tank_Master

06:00 <clusty> it opens a big hole to haxorz

06:00 <Tank_Master> I got 4GB

06:00 * clusty hands the ring to KathrynM to kiss

06:01 <clusty> Tank_Master, problem is that it gets the data from a database

06:01 <clusty> and that is closed from outside

06:01 <Tank_Master> the input for the WU is directly froma db?

06:01 <CoderForLife> re-hi

06:01 <Tank_Master> CFL!

06:02 <CoderForLife> What!?

06:02 <Tank_Master> sup!

06:02 <Tank_Master> stop shouting!

06:02 <CoderForLife> Ready for W@#%!

06:02 <CoderForLife> You started it!

06:02 * Tank_Master is ready for W$^#units

06:02 <CoderForLife> what a horrible idea

06:03 <Tank_Master> lol

06:03 <clusty> it is

06:03 <clusty> and password is harcoded in file D:

06:03 <Tank_Master> just waiting on crusty here

06:03 <clusty> not my doing

06:03 <Tank_Master> ;)

06:03 <clusty> i am just the boinkifier

06:03 <clusty> :D

06:03 <Tank_Master> worth thing to do

06:03 <CoderForLife> oh, and morning clusty and KathrynM

06:03 <clusty> i do just all sort of high poerf computing

06:03 <CoderForLife> and quail

06:04 <clusty> you code them i'll parallelize them :D

06:04 <Tank_Master> :D

06:04 * CoderForLife feels paralyzed

06:04 <Tank_Master> crunch3r will optmise them

06:04 <clusty> its a bad idea also because it takes on average 2 min/WU

06:04 <clusty> and it grinds a database 300MB big for that :D

06:05 <Tank_Master> he's taken 30 min WUs down to 2 min

06:05 <clusty> and data never changes

06:05 <clusty> only params change

06:05 <Tank_Master> right

06:05 <Tank_Master> crunch3r probably could take your 2 min WU down to 15 sec

06:05 <clusty> who's he?

06:05 <Romulus> hmm... he is a manly man, clusty

06:06 <CoderForLife> lol

06:06 <Tank_Master> cant you increase the run time?

06:06 <Tank_Master> stfu, rommie

06:06 <clusty> Tank_Master, i can: run several sets of params in one WU

06:06 <clusty> saves on db grind

06:06 <Tank_Master> yeah

06:06 <clusty> and makes wu long

06:07 <quail> ay CoderForLife

06:07 <clusty> but this is just the second set of WU's

06:07 <Tank_Master> crunch3r is somebody that has optimised he code from several projects

06:07 <CoderForLife> I'm outta here - tc all

06:07 <Tank_Master> the*

06:07 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:07 <clusty> a tiny set of 300wu's

06:07 <Tank_Master> hf cfl

06:07 <CoderForLife> not a chance Tank_Master

06:07 <clusty> CoderForLife, bye mr computational fluid dynamics

06:07 <clusty> :D

06:08 <CoderForLife> heh

06:08 <Tank_Master> lol

06:08 <clusty> cfl always makes me think cfd

06:08 <clusty> :D

06:08 <CoderForLife> that sounds better than a lightbulb

06:08 <clusty> grrr. i feel like scratching some's eyes out

06:09 <clusty> want my babies to grind some more....

06:09 <Tank_Master> you got plenty of SETI devs to pick from

06:09 <clusty> i chose david :D

06:09 <Tank_Master> :P

06:09 <Tank_Master> good choice

06:09 <clusty> is he the big chief?

06:09 <KathrynM> he is

06:09 <Tank_Master> big dufis

06:09 <clusty> he seems a nice guy

06:10 <clusty> usually important ppl like him are arrogant

06:10 <clusty> he ain't

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06:28 <clusty> found a fix to my problem

06:28 <clusty> just detached bad machines

06:28 <clusty> and reattached them with some other username

06:28 <clusty> seems like it's not cool using one user for 20 machines :D

06:28 <Tank_Master> shouldnt be an issue

06:29 <Tank_Master> Ive used the same user for over 50

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06:29 <Tank_Master> 30 of shich I used ghost to deploy images

06:29 <Tank_Master> which*

06:34 <clusty> it is connected to that

06:34 <clusty> but now trully fixed it

06:34 <clusty> made quota to 10^15 wus/day :D

06:34 <Tidus> lol

06:34 <clusty> problem is that is /user

06:34 <clusty> not /host

06:35 <clusty> so 20 machines one user made 50k wu's in last 24h

06:36 <Tank_Master> BOINC allows per host as well

06:41 <Tank_Master> what is your max_wus_in_progress set to?

06:43 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed

06:43 <Tank_Master> tiz almost 4am

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06:56 <hawmps> 'mornin

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07:45 <quail> for people that are interested in learning linux commandline you might be interested in this livecd called inx =>

07:45 <Romulus> Title: INX Is Not X : A command line and console Linux "Live CD" based on a minimal Ubuntu, without the X window system graphical interface. INX has some surprising capabilities... (at

07:47 <KathrynM> wow.  no X at all.

07:47 <KathrynM> that's hard core :-)

07:48 <KathrynM> There are some things I really prefer the command line for.  Installing software is one.

07:48 <quail> KathrynM: it a learning tool

07:49 <KathrynM> A year ago, that would have wigged me out.  Now it sounds like fun :)

07:49 <quail> KathrynM: and it bit fun too

07:50 <quail> KathrynM: download it a give it a whirl it ~188MB torrent download

07:51 <KathrynM> getting it now

07:54 <hawmps> 'lo Q

07:54 <hawmps> and K

07:55 <quail> ay hawmps, how the nets?

07:55 <quail> KathrynM: you might be connected to me

07:55 <KathrynM> :)

07:55 <quail> KathrynM: you use ktorrent?

07:56 <KathrynM> yup

07:56 <quail> KathrynM: you leeching off me

07:56 <KathrynM> I do my best.

07:56 <quail> hehe

07:56 <quail> it gets my upload ratio up :-)

07:57 <quail> KathrynM: iirc there only half dozen of us seeding atm

07:58 <KathrynM> I wish I could help with seeding, but I have no idea how to set up KTorrent.

08:00 <quail> KathrynM: you need to do port forwarding from modem / router to your desktop

08:00 <KathrynM> that ain't gonna happen.  My whole router interface is in Korean...

08:01 <quail> KathrynM: but if you can burn off copies for friends, that be great too

08:01 <KathrynM> LOL.  LIke I have any friends that are that geeky.

08:01 <quail> KathrynM: and you not understand korean?

08:02 <quail> hehe

08:02 <KathrynM> Almost none.  And I barely read it.

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15:38 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

15:39 <yoyo[RKN]> which project supports on PS3 all SPE's? Folding, ps3grid,, yoyo, are there more?

15:43 <Tank_Master> dunno

15:44 <Tank_Master> you sure yoyo uses all the cores?

15:44 <Tank_Master> :P

15:44 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

15:45 <Tank_Master> are you sure youre sure?

15:45 <Tank_Master> (sorry, ima windows luser)

15:49 <yoyo[RKN]> yes I'm really sure that I'm sure

15:58 <xcamel> 'lo

16:06 <wdsmia_w> *lo Jay

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16:14 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

16:14 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 52.6F / 11.4C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy with scattered showers. Cooler. High in the lower 60s. Temperature steady or slowly falling through late afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of showers 50 (1 more message)

16:14 <wdsmia_w> &more

16:14 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then clearing. Colder. Patchy fog after midnight. Low in the mid 40s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 70s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

16:17 <CoderForLife> hello

16:17 <CoderForLife> just got done talking to a landscape designer outside

16:18 <wdsmia_w> *lo Don

16:18 <CoderForLife> hey Doug_w

16:18 <CoderForLife> she taking measurements, and listening to me rant

16:19 * CoderForLife sees a bit of rain on the 50 mile radar, and a bunch on the 600 mile

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16:23 <CoderForLife> dinner - bbiab

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16:46 <xcamel> re-re-hi

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16:58 <CoderForLife> going to w@#% downstairs on the laptop, finishing my presentation for 8:00 am tomorrow - be back much later, if at all

17:00 <xcamel> don't forget the debate..

17:00 <CoderForLife> what time?

17:00 <Romulus> what time is the super bowl thing on, CoderForLife

17:01 <xcamel> oh and that little dow thing...

17:01 <xcamel> 9:00 pm

17:01 <CoderForLife> I need to be done by then - thx

17:02 <CoderForLife> I'll present the strategic plan at 8, and then tear it up at 9, due to what's *really* going to happen

17:04 <xcamel> indeed.

17:05 <CoderForLife> laterz

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17:28 <desti>

17:28 <Romulus> <> (at

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17:52 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:19 <bigt0242000> hey

18:27 <xcamel> hey

18:27 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

18:29 <xcamel> intresting thing on the walk tonight...

18:29 <bigt0242000> ?

18:29 <xcamel> young eagle trying to catch a small diving duck...

18:29 <xcamel> and the duck was winning...

18:29 <wdsmia> lol

18:30 <xcamel> and the eagle was pi$$ed

18:33 <xcamel> the eagle gave up when the duck had splashed so much water on him he could barely fly up to the top of an old tree next to the pond

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19:31 <CoderForLife> Powerpoint is done, thank goodness

19:31 <xcamel> good for you..

19:32 <CoderForLife> thx - I'm not even going to rehearse it - just do it at 8:00 tomorrow morning, 1 hour of jabbering

19:32 <CoderForLife> they're going to love it (not)

19:32 <xcamel> baffle with...

19:33 <CoderForLife> Powerpoint

19:33 <xcamel> right.

19:33 <CoderForLife> heh

19:33 <CoderForLife> even better than Bravo Sierra

19:33 <CoderForLife> Pretty Colors =)

19:33 <xcamel> wildlife funnies... scroll back a few..

19:33 <CoderForLife> your walk?  yeah =)

19:34 <CoderForLife> nice Merc pics desti

19:35 <CoderForLife> spork

19:36 <CoderForLife> minor FTP attempt

19:36 <xcamel> hmmm.. missed that link...

19:37 <xcamel> kil'd

19:37 <xcamel> bigger hmmm...

19:37 <xcamel>

19:37 <Romulus> <> (at

19:37 * KathrynM yawns

19:38 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

19:38 <CoderForLife> Chicago slime ball.. (not you KM)

19:38 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:40 <KathrynM> morning

19:40 <xcamel> It's really starting to look like Barry O lived with the Ayers for over a year while he was at Columbia U

19:41 <xcamel> 1980-1982 (1981 specifically)

19:41 <CoderForLife> I hope so - that would clarify things

19:41 <MTughan> Oh, is it just me, or do presidential candidate promise what they're going to do for the primaries, then point out what the other didn't do during the actual campaign?

19:41 <CoderForLife> that, and more

19:41 <xcamel>

19:41 <Romulus> <> (at

19:42 <xcamel> You can always tell when they're lying, Mike...

19:42 <MTughan> lol

19:42 <MTughan> Was watching CNN today.

19:42 <xcamel> ...their lips are moving....

19:44 <CoderForLife> I hope people wake up

19:45 <CoderForLife> else it's evening in America

19:45 <xcamel> Weimar Republic...

19:45 <xcamel> (sp)

19:45 <CoderForLife> wheelbarrow loads of money to buy bread

19:46 <CoderForLife> the encroaching sound of jackboots

19:46 <CoderForLife> kids chanting "Alpha!  Omega!"

19:46 <xcamel> brownshirts...

19:47 <CoderForLife> zackly

19:47 <CoderForLife> lights out for western civ - turn over the keys to the terroists and the Chinese

19:48 <CoderForLife> some friends of mine went to the local gun show last weekend

19:48 <CoderForLife> one of them is the CFO of a major software company

19:49 <PovAddict> UFO?

19:49 <CoderForLife> "sees the writing on the wall"

19:49 <CoderForLife> CFO

19:49 <CoderForLife> Chief Financial Officer

19:52 <CoderForLife> well, on that happy note...

19:53 <xcamel> It's a good choice...

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20:01 <xcamel> 'lo Q

20:01 <xcamel> 'mornin even

20:02 * CoderForLife sighs

20:04 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go copy my presentation to a USB drive, and plop down on the couch in front of the TV

20:04 <CoderForLife> gn folks

20:07 <xcamel> laterz..

20:15 <KathrynM> w&@% time

20:15 <xcamel> off to the germ factory?

20:17 * xcamel is sure KathrynM no longer talks to him.

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20:24 <xcamel> 'lo zombie

20:24 <zombie67> yo

20:24 <xcamel> wazzup?

20:25 <Soul_keeper> lol nice add on tv now  "obama found time to make 45 trips to hawaii yet only 2 trips to iraqi"

20:25 <xcamel> go figure..

20:25 <Tank_Master> :P

20:25 <xcamel> this Ayers/Dorn thing is really growing some legs...

20:26 <xcamel> inasmuch as the obamallamadingdong time at Columbia seems to be some kind of 'eyes only' CIA state secret...

20:28 <Tank_Master> nickuwo

20:28 <Tank_Master> wahts wrong with your server?

20:28 <PovAddict> why

20:29 <Tank_Master> cant u/l or d/l

20:29 <PovAddict> cant get to website

20:29 <xcamel> can't even get a decent cup of coffee..

20:29 <PovAddict> ok I can but it's slow as hell

20:31 <nickuwo> not sure :)

20:32 <PovAddict> nickuwo: when it gets slow as hell, turn stuff off :)

20:33 <nickuwo> my ISP is prolly throttling me :)

20:33 <nickuwo> they hate short WUs

20:33 <PovAddict> right now I'd suggest you ./bin/stop (ie. everything)

20:33 <PovAddict> so the website at least is fast enough

20:34 <nickuwo> just pressed enter on that command as you said it :)

20:34 <nickuwo> anyone know any good apach monitoring tools?

20:34 <nickuwo> apache

20:35 <PovAddict> apache has a module built-in to show requests in progress

20:35 <PovAddict> also, try "iftop" (run it as root); it's like "top" but for network connections instead of processes

20:36 <PovAddict> finally got a connection to the webserver

20:36 <PovAddict> loading server_status

20:37 <nickuwo> my roommates are prolly dling pr0n

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20:46 <Tank_Master> LOL

20:50 <xcamel> thanks for the headsup on iftop

20:50 <xcamel> handy little utility..

20:51 <nickuwo> isn't it?

20:53 <xcamel> was looking at ipcop too..

20:53 <xcamel> off to watch the debate..

20:57 <Tank_Master> same ehre

20:57 <Tank_Master> here*

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21:18 <bigt0242000> for anyone who would like to watch the debate.

21:18 <Romulus> Title: Hulu - Presidential Election Debate, October 7th, 2008 (at

21:19 <Soul_keeper> i'm watching :)

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21:27 <zombie67> by now, everyone already know who they will vote for

21:27 <zombie67> debates are pointless

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22:03 <zombie67> nickuwo?

22:03 <Romulus> It has been said that nickuwo is haveing problems setting up a BOINC server, can anyone help me, zombie67

22:03 <zombie67> you there?

22:05 <zombie67> the estimated run time for 1.14 and 1.16 are showing the same...but I think you said the 1.16 are going to be longer?

22:08 <zombie67> oh, I guess the app version and the WU length are independent.  How can we tell which are the "longer" WUs?  Has the estimated run time been increased accordingly, so that we don't over-download?

22:08 <PovAddict> WU length is tied to WUs, not apps

22:09 <zombie67> yeah

22:11 <PovAddict>

22:11 <Romulus> <> (at

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22:31 <bigt0242000> why can't they answer yes/no questions with a simple yes or no?

22:31 <PovAddict> who, women?

22:31 <bigt0242000> lol no

22:31 <bigt0242000> obama or macain

22:32 <bigt0242000> obama took about 5 mins to answer and macain took about 2 mins to answer

22:35 <zombie67> and all that pre-qualification before answering

22:35 <bigt0242000> finally it's over

22:35 <zombie67> odd, I just had a host detach, and then reattach to Ramsey

22:35 <PovAddict> drunk BOINC

22:35 <bigt0242000> lol

22:36 <zombie67> I use BAM

22:36 <zombie67> but none of my other hosts did that

22:36 <bigt0242000> mine do that every once in a while

22:36 <zombie67> I would hate to have that happen with CPDN tasks in process.

22:36 <bigt0242000> lol

22:37 <PovAddict> how much packet drop would I have with an ethernet cable... say, 300 meters long? :P

22:38 <bigt0242000> i would say close to 100%

22:38 <bigt0242000> only supposed to to 100m

22:38 <zombie67> 300 meters?  trying to attach to a hub a block away>?

22:38 <bigt0242000> lol

22:39 <PovAddict> no, I just want LAN speed with a friend who lives 3 blocks away

22:40 <PovAddict> might also try directional Wi-Fi antennas

22:40 <PovAddict> but I think there are trees in the way

22:40 <MTughan> You'd need some switches to boost the signal along the way, I'd say.

22:40 <MTughan> Directional 802.11n might work though...

22:41 <PovAddict> ethernet cable was mostly a joke though

22:41 <PovAddict> I don't think it would last long with *cars going on top of it* (gotta cross a street or three to get there)

22:42 <MTughan> Ah...

22:42 <bigt0242000> switches or hubs

22:42 <PovAddict> unless I use a tiny tunnel boring machine

22:42 <PovAddict> :P

22:43 <PovAddict> MTughan: it's just I don't feel like buying expensive Wi-Fi hardware just to have it fail due to trees or whatever...

22:43 <PovAddict> at least, I'd have to make sure anything I get has a decent return policy :)

22:49 <PovAddict> how do I change my resolution on X?

22:50 <PovAddict> a Wine program changed my res, I don't how how to set it back

22:50 <MTughan> randr? Something like that...

22:50 <MTughan> xrandr -s <res>

22:51 <MTughan> Ex: xrandr -s 1440x900

22:51 <PovAddict> fix'd

22:51 <MTughan> Google++

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23:25 <zombie67> w00t!  My 56th project with > 100,000 credits!  FreHAL

23:25 <zombie67>   it will show up tomorrow here

23:25 <Romulus> <> (at

23:35 <nickuwo> hey zombie - WU length is tied to the app right now

23:36 <zombie67> I see.  I think there is something to do on the server side, to increase the estimated crunch time

23:36 <zombie67> to prevent over downloading of tasks

23:36 <MTughan> Like the 700 I downloaded? xD

23:36 <nickuwo> yea, I changed the wu template, prolly wont take effect for a while...

23:36 <nickuwo> whoops :)

23:36 <MTughan> It's just starting to flush some of the last ones out.

23:37 <MTughan> Anyway, upload server back up?

23:37 <nickuwo> should be.. i deleted the stop_upload and restarted the server

23:38 <MTughan> Yep, they're going up.

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23:41 <MTughan> Thanks, that got rid of another 77 WUs.

23:42 <nickuwo> nice

23:42 <MTughan> &math 229 - 77

23:42 <Romulus> MTughan: 152

23:42 <MTughan> Should have that many left now...

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