IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-10-13

00:02 <Tank_Master> sweet

00:03 <efc> Backing up.. for some reason it refuses to burn anything to DVD, so backing up the 2 gig file over 10 mpbs network..

00:04 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:04 <PovAddict> you compressed it didn't you?

00:04 <PovAddict> for fast networks, I'd like a dynamic compression algorithm...

00:05 <PovAddict> that can change its compression ratio - compression speed tradeoff halfway in the process

00:05 <PovAddict> to try keeping both CPU and network fully loaded

00:05 <PovAddict> (avoiding either from becoming the bottleneck)

00:07 <efc> 2 gig after smoosh

00:07 <efc> i need to setup a network file server or something for this

00:07 <efc> with the way windows networking works for me though..

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00:13 <quail> &wx ypad

00:13 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 2:30 PM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Clear. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Overcast. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 F. / 9 C.;

00:20 <Tank_Master> &wv 97123

00:20 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Are you daft?

00:20 <Tank_Master> &more

00:20 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

00:20 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

00:21 <Tank_Master> &more

00:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

00:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 55.8F / 13.2C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy turning mostly cloudy at times. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows around 40 except around 45 near the Columbia River. Light wind.; Columbus Day - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of (1 more message)

00:21 <Tank_Master> &more

00:21 <Romulus> Tank_Master: rain in the morning...then a slight chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs 60 to 65. Light wind.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening... then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows around 45. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light wind after midnight.;

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01:03 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

01:03 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 16F / -8.9C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 14 to 24. Light winds.; Columbus Day - Mostly sunny. Highs 47 to 53. Light winds.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 20 to 30. Light winds.;

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01:35 <efc> m.. nm

01:44 <Tank_Master> ?

01:46 <efc> abortive moo for BB

01:46 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:46 <Tank_Master> lol

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06:37 <hawmps> 'lo

06:38 <hawmps> &wx 12020

06:38 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 47.7F / 8.7C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1021.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 70s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds...becoming southeast around 5 mph after (1 more message)

06:38 <hawmps> &more

06:38 <Romulus> hawmps: midnight.; Tuesday - Patchy fog in the morning. Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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07:55 <MadHag> hi, anyone here

07:56 <MadHag> need help on a fresh install on boinc on a remote server

07:59 <MadHag> is it just the client I need to install?

08:03 <desti> yes

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08:09 <MadHag> ok, but I installed both

08:11 <MadHag> now I need to join my project and get running

08:12 <MadHag> boinc_cmd [--host hostname] [--passwd passwd] command

08:12 <MadHag> I will make a note this time

08:12 <MadHag> needs my email as well I believe

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08:19 <MadHag> hi, I already have an acount

08:20 <MadHag> why is there not a easy howto?

08:20 <MadHag> all it is, is a simple boinc_cmd

08:20 <MadHag> I will do the howto once setup, so annoying

08:21 <MadHag> my fault for not taking notes beofre

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08:26 <MadHag> is there anyone here who can help?

08:27 <MadHag> the instructions are so vague

08:27 <MadHag> especially the syntax

08:27 <MadHag> -lookup_account URL email password

08:29 <MadHag> easy once you know I suppose

08:43 <MadHag> think I have it

08:44 <MadHag> haha, have it running

08:44 <MadHag> clamav is having a fit

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08:48 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

08:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 27F / -2.8C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1023.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 14.5km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 44 to 52. Light winds becoming northeast around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 25 to 31. Northeast winds around 15 mph.; Tuesday - Not as cool. Mostly sunny. Highs (1 more message)

08:49 <BadBarbarian> &more

08:49 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: 51 to 59. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph.;

08:49 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --project_attach ***********************************  did it for me

08:49 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

08:50 <MadHag> but you have to retrieve that key first

08:52 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --lookup_account http://project_url/ email address password

08:52 <MadHag> respecting the spaces

08:53 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --lookup_account_poll

08:53 <MadHag> will show you that key

08:54 <MadHag> then just do the former and your server will be crunching in no time ;)

08:54 <MadHag> simple heh!

08:54 <MadHag> like shite it is

08:54 <wdsmia> asks MadHag to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

08:54 <MadHag> will have to do a good howto for Debian

08:54 <MadHag> sorry

08:55 <MadHag> thought the e might stop the remonstrance :(

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08:56 <MadHag> shite

08:56 <wdsmia> asks MadHag to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

08:56 <MadHag> its a word as well

08:56 <MadHag> islamic

08:56 <MadHag> double t maybe

08:57 <MadHag> sorry

08:59 <MadHag> excrement

08:59 <MadHag> ah

08:59 <MadHag> no objection

08:59 <MadHag> same meaning though

09:00 <MadHag> so

09:00 <MadHag> what can we learn from this

09:01 <MadHag> that words are irrelevant and its what we ourselves apply to them

09:01 <wdsmia_w> lol

09:01 <MadHag> yes, anthroplogist here

09:02 <MadHag> life is boring without looking into it :)

09:02 <MadHag> thanks

09:02 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

09:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 66.6F / 19.2C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High around 70. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. (2 more messages)

09:02 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Showers and isolated thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Colder. Low in the lower 40s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Cooler. High in (1 more message)

09:02 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: the upper 50s. Northwest wind near 10 mph. Chance of showers 50 percent.;

09:02 <MadHag> some places might have banned me before now

09:03 <MadHag> life just about the weather either

09:03 <MadHag> whats it like in lourdes, frence   ?

09:03 <MadHag> life is not I meant

09:05 <MadHag> geez

09:05 <MadHag> boinc is running

09:05 <MadHag> I am happy

09:09 <MadHag> boinc is not running at 100% cpu

09:09 <MadHag> clamav is though?

09:10 <MadHag> infact boinc is not doing more than 20%

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10:08 <MadHag> msg NickServ identify

10:08 <MadHag> msg NickServ identify

10:08 <MadHag> /msg NickServ identify tinpot123

10:09 <MadHag> well thats good

10:12 <MadHag> irc is so insecure

10:15 <MadHag> lol

10:15 <MadHag> love the ips going for it :)

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10:25 <MadHag> irc in so insecure

10:26 <MadHag> there is no protection

10:26 <MadHag> unless your a boffin

10:26 <MadHag> xcamel kicked lol

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11:43 <mikemmx1> i would like to parcipate in the rosetta project (using) the boinc client

11:44 <mikemmx1> so i downloaded boinc on my linux box, and i registered at

11:44 <mikemmx1> what should i do more?

11:45 <PovAddict> attach rosetta on your boinc client

11:45 <PovAddict> you don't need a boincstats account

11:51 <mikemmx1> well, when i try to ...

11:51 <mikemmx1> ./boinc --attach_project

11:51 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

11:51 <mikemmx1> it says: Unknown option:

11:52 <PovAddict> ugh, I wish they removed those switches

11:52 <PovAddict> don't pass parameters to 'boinc'

11:52 <PovAddict> use 'boinc_cmd' to control a running instance of 'boinc'

11:53 <mikemmx1> ok.. when im running boinc & in the background

11:53 <mikemmx1> ./boinccmd --project_attach

11:53 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

11:54 <mikemmx1> Romulus: stfu k thnx =) ;)

11:54 <Romulus> You can't turn markov off! You'll just have to live with it...

11:54 <PovAddict> do you have X?

11:54 <mikemmx1> PovAddict: no, i dont want to ... X

11:54 <mikemmx1> CLI only (server) :)

11:54 <PovAddict> ok

11:54 <PovAddict> do you have a rosetta account?

11:54 <mikemmx1> nopes, i cant find the register page

11:55 <PovAddict> if you don't, use --create_account <email> <password> <name>

11:55 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

11:55 <mikemmx1> it says join us all over the page... when i click on it and arrive here >

11:55 <Romulus> Title: Join Rosetta@home (at

11:55 <mikemmx1> ok, thanks :)

11:55 <PovAddict> it will give a long code (don't paste it here, that's as secret as your password)

11:56 <PovAddict> then use --project_attach <the long code>

11:56 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

11:56 * PovAddict slaps Romulus

11:57 <mikemmx1> boincmgr --project_attach mykeyimnotgonnapaste

11:57 <mikemmx1> Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

11:57 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

11:57 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd

11:57 <mikemmx1> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Romulus, making me crazy

11:57 <mikemmx1> k :)

11:57 <PovAddict> boincmgr is the graphical program

11:57 <PovAddict> which you can't use without X

11:57 <mikemmx1> o i used _cmd before

11:57 <mikemmx1> was a <TAB> error... :)

11:57 <mikemmx1> thanks

12:01 <mikemmx1> its running now :)

12:01 <mikemmx1> im nearly going to visit dinner ; ) .. but i should add this to my system 'startup' somehow / as a daemon maybe

12:02 <mikemmx1> because its just running in a console now.. (im logged in over ssh)

12:02 <PovAddict> if you use boinc --daemon, it will detach from the console

12:03 <PovAddict> (you have to close your current instance first, of course)

12:03 <PovAddict> setting it up to start on boot is a whole different problem :)

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12:06 <mikemmx1> ok, well --daemon is pretty ok :)

12:07 <mikemmx1> i dont reboot it anyway :P

12:07 <mikemmx1> and if i do .. well .. what is one command ..

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12:09 <jackygrahamez> hi

12:09 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011

12:09 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 71.7F / 22.1C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny. Highs around 80. West winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. North winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. North winds around 5 mph... (1 more message)

12:09 <jackygrahamez> &more

12:09 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: becoming southeast in the afternoon.;

12:11 <jackygrahamez> hey I got a question, does anyone know of any multimeters that can hook to a computer through a USB connection?

12:11 <jackygrahamez> I want to monitor the voltage from a fuel cell

12:12 <jackygrahamez> Import the data onto the computer

12:15 <PovAddict> well... I can think of a trick

12:15 <PovAddict> you gotta be very careful to avoid blowing up your computer

12:15 <PovAddict> if you bring it to voltages and currents low enough, you could plug it to the microphone (or line-in) port on the computer, then the soundcard will take care of "measuring" it

12:16 <jackygrahamez> Well if it creates enough power to destroy my computer, then I have succeeded!

12:16 <PovAddict> use an audio editor to get a nice graph

12:19 <jackygrahamez> do you think there are any free to distribute applications that will export that data to a text file? Reason being, I am thinking about a distributed experiment where people monitor the hydrogen produced in bioreactor-fuel cells I send them

12:20 <jackygrahamez> or send instructions on building

12:22 <PovAddict> read from a microphone and output values in text? that would be pretty simple

12:22 <PovAddict> problem is people can't use that *and* skype at the same time :P

12:23 <jackygrahamez> hmm

12:24 <jackygrahamez> I'll have to play arround with some old computers and see what I can do with various input devices that won't destroy the machine

12:24 <mikemmx1>

12:24 <Romulus> <> (at

12:24 <mikemmx1> usb multimeter ->55euro

12:24 <jackygrahamez> I was trying to make it low overhead

12:24 <mikemmx1> there's also multimeters which can save the data i think, to something like a SD card

12:25 <jackygrahamez> Maybe I should talk to Carl about it, he did some stuff in designing USB Accerometers

12:26 <mikemmx1> easiest thing to do is... grab ur multimeter.. hook it up

12:26 <mikemmx1> with a piece of paper next to you and a clock

12:26 <mikemmx1> and just write down the values on time intervals

12:26 <mikemmx1> thats the cheapest way also :)

12:27 <jackygrahamez> Yes but what I'm after is a cheap device that exports data to quantify the rate of hydrogen production so we keep the budget at a reasonable value of $25 per unit

12:28 <jackygrahamez> a unit would be a container that grows algae, a fuel cell and the monitor device

12:28 <PovAddict> mikemmx1: his idea is that lots of people can buy/build the bioreactor-fuel cells and the multimeter and it will run as part of a BOINC project... I wouldn't run the project if I had to manually write down values from a multimeter

12:30 <jackygrahamez> I still have not built the fuel cell and bioreactor but I'm investigating the feasability

12:31 <PovAddict> I think that's better done in a proper lab

12:31 <jackygrahamez> possibly

12:40 <jackygrahamez> this on looks interesting

12:40 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:58 <mikemmx1> PovAddict: im running boinc for an hour now i think.. ?

12:59 <PovAddict> yep

12:59 <mikemmx1> how do i see how much data /packages is handled

12:59 <PovAddict> "boinc_cmd --get_state" will give you lots of info

13:00 <mikemmx1> on cpu1

13:00 <mikemmx1> and cpu0 about the same.. fraction done: 0.121843

13:01 <mikemmx1> final CPU time: 989.101800

13:01 <mikemmx1> checkpoint CPU time: 988.041700

13:01 <mikemmx1>    current CPU time: 1319.934000

13:01 <mikemmx1> estimated CPU time remaining: 73961.048155

13:01 <mikemmx1> what do these numbers tell me? :o

13:01 <PovAddict> &math convert 73961.048155 seconds to hours

13:01 <Romulus> PovAddict: 20.5447355986

13:01 <PovAddict> that task has 20 hours left to finish

13:02 <mikemmx1> ahh k, well this is a 1.6ghz atom processor ..... (with ht, but single core)

13:02 <mikemmx1> which uses 4watt peak / max

13:02 <mikemmx1> im planning on buying a few more when the dualcore is available

13:02 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd is quite impressive... its output is *both* user-unfriendly and hard to parse by scripts

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> was surely hard to match both criteria ;)

13:04 <mikemmx1> but 1.6ghz for 4watt is pretty impressive right?

13:06 <mikemmx1> bogomips        : 3192.46

13:06 <mikemmx1> x 2

13:09 <DerMeister> which project are you running on that machine?

13:09 <wdsmia_w> a bit more power and you would have a nice calculator there :)

13:09 <PovAddict> DerMeister: rosetta, he just attached

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13:22 <mikemmx1> wdsmia: i bet my calculators are more cost/power usage -effective then yours

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14:29 <FreeLarry58> morning all

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14:38 <hawmps> 'lo Larry

14:38 <FreeLarry58> lo jay

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14:42 <efc> moo

14:44 * FreeLarry58 puts away idea that he may be able to translate japenese - would need two more lifetimes to begin the kindergarden phase of reading

14:50 <FreeLarry58> cant even figure out an easier way to type katana and heji symbols in text editors

14:51 <efc> I wonder how they type that stuff

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15:14 <FreeLarry58> from what i can tell on us keyboard you have to have the fonts installed then use insert symbol then look for the symbol

15:15 <FreeLarry58> has to be an easier way

15:15 <efc> They don't have an 8,000 key keyboard?

15:15 <FreeLarry58> not that i know of

15:15 <efc> on unicode I would think you can do the alt-code way of entry

15:15 <FreeLarry58> humm guess i could try a search

15:15 <FreeLarry58> if you know the alt code that is

15:16 <efc> the unicode code pages are out there somewhere..

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15:18 <hawmps> exit

15:19 <hawmps> lol

15:19 <FreeLarry58> looks like helpful info

15:19 <Romulus> <> (at

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15:53 <Romulus> WB, Boss

15:54 <efc> moo X

15:54 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:18 <FreeLarry58> humm first wakeup call from child hood friend i think translates to eien haneruyo  -- eternal, runover by car? or with grammer change get runover by car forever

17:19 <FreeLarry58> what a wakeup

17:19 <FreeLarry58> what a friend

17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:28 <FreeLarry58> howdy doug

17:30 <wdsmia> *lo Larry

17:31 <FreeLarry58> japenese game i'm trying to undrstand first attempt at translating  a phrase

17:31 <FreeLarry58> first wakeup call from child hood friend i think translates to eien haneruyo  -- eternal, runover by car? or with grammer change get runover by car forever

17:32 <wdsmia> lol

17:32 <FreeLarry58> interesting friend ehh and start of game dialogs

17:39 <xcamel> re-back

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17:55 <efc> remoo

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18:16 <xcamel> re-re-back

18:16 <bigt0242000> hey

18:20 <xcamel> that too..

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18:24 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

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18:32 <Tank_Master> ib

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18:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx Orlando, FL

18:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 78.1F / 25.6C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms before sunset...then a slight chance of showers until around midnight. Breezy. Lows in the lower 70s. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph (2 more messages)

18:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

18:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: decreasing to 10 to 15 mph late. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Breezy. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Lake Wind Advisory for Orange County in effect until 7:00 PM EDT on (1 more message)

18:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

18:41 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: October 13, 2008;

18:43 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

18:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 64.8F / 18.2C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 45 to 50. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light after midnight.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs 60 to (1 more message)

18:43 <Tank_Master> &more

18:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 65. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows around 45. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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18:45 <CoderForLife> dad blasted hotel broadband agreement timed out, just after I go everything signed on

18:45 <xcamel> still 60 here - might be 75 tomorrow...

18:45 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel

18:45 <xcamel> 'lo Don

18:46 <CoderForLife> hmm  nick mix up now

18:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

18:46 <xcamel> great horror story for Halloween..

18:46 *** CoderOnTheRoad was kicked by wdsmia (...and there was much rejoicing...)

18:47 <xcamel>

18:47 <Romulus> Title: GOPublius Blog Archive The Quiet Coup: Obama and the Disciplined Left (at

18:47 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

18:47 <CoderForLife> you kick faster than I can ghjost

18:47 <xcamel> itchin kick finger...

18:47 <CoderForLife> ah well

18:47 <wdsmia> just trying to be helpful

18:47 <CoderForLife> looking xcamel

18:48 <xcamel> kind of a long read

18:49 <xcamel> remember my comment about "the chinese water torture"...

18:51 <CoderForLife> I will be buying more guns

18:52 <CoderForLife> I don't have enough firepower to hold off the hordes after Amerika lurches left

18:52 <xcamel> I caused one persons head to explode today...

18:53 <CoderForLife> you didn't tell them the *truth* now, did you?

18:53 <xcamel> talking point - "8 years of failed bush economic policy"

18:53 <xcamel> reply:

18:54 <xcamel> "Correction - 6 years of the best economy we've ever had - and 2 years with the dems in charge of congress"

18:54 <CoderForLife> um-hmm

18:54 <xcamel> <*>BOOM<*>

18:54 <bigt0242000> the dems fault we're in this mess

18:55 <CoderForLife> correct big

18:55 <bigt0242000> this all started in the late 90s

18:55 <xcamel> the clinton/dot-com crash

18:56 <xcamel> then 9/11

18:57 <bigt0242000> well more specificlly the fannie mae/freddie mac bill that bill signed while in office. it lowered the level of credit a person had to have to own a home

18:58 <bigt0242000> hence sub-prime

18:58 <bigt0242000> oboma needs to do some fact checking of his own

18:58 <xcamel> that (and the CRA) which goes back to Carter

19:00 <bigt0242000> and the dems had a year to start fixing things before the economy went to hellin a hand basket

19:00 <CoderForLife> Barney and Maxine said they didn't need fixing

19:00 <xcamel> they were up to their necks in it - and fought all attempts to regulate it or fix the problems

19:01 <bigt0242000> but nope the last 2 years the dems have been naming post offices

19:01 <xcamel> and banning energy production

19:01 <CoderForLife> and only getting single digit approval ratings doing *that*

19:02 <bigt0242000> banning drilling??? dont get me started

19:02 <xcamel> Why is zero-bama 49% in the polls with a 9% job approval rating?

19:02 <bigt0242000> your guess is as good as mine

19:03 <bigt0242000> that's why i'll be voting third party

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19:04 <CoderForLife> at least cast your vote, don't throw it away

19:04 <bigt0242000> i am going to cast my vote

19:05 <bigt0242000> third party

19:05 <bigt0242000> i don't like mccain or obama

19:07 <bigt0242000> it really pisses me off when neither one can answer a simply yes/no question with yes or no. how hard is it? it's a one word answer not a 5 min speech

19:08 <xcamel> it's never the answer... it's the nature of the questions...

19:10 <nickuwo> hmm, is my project still sending wus?? wtf

19:10 <bigt0242000> lol idk been discussing politics

19:11 <wdsmia> nickuwo how is the valadator coming?

19:14 <nickuwo> not so well, I've decided to make some big changes - change my algorithm altogether actually, so I've shut down the server until I can do that - I posted a long thread about it in the forums, take a look :)

19:16 <PovAddict> nickuwo: are you sure you aren't generating any new work?

19:17 <nickuwo> work gen isnt running

19:17 <PovAddict> I just thought the "ready to send" was kinda high last time I checked

19:17 <nickuwo> how can i dump all the uncompleted work?

19:17 <nickuwo> unsent work rather

19:18 <PovAddict> only unsent? that's a bit tricky business; ask in the lists

19:18 <bigt0242000> if this isn't true then i don't know what is.

19:18 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - "Bill of Rights Blackout" and the Constitutional Clock (at

19:18 <Tank_Master> whats this about non credit stuff?

19:18 <PovAddict> you'd have to do a SQL query to set only the unsent ones to "over" and "cancelled by server"

19:19 <PovAddict> ...while the feeder is off (important)

19:19 <nickuwo> hmm....

19:19 <PovAddict> and that means looking up numbers for "over" and "cancelled by server"

19:19 <PovAddict> and *I* can't be bothered atm :)

19:20 <nickuwo> Tank: no more credits from ramsey

19:20 <nickuwo> thx pov, ill look em up

19:20 <Tank_Master> what about the work I am currently running?

19:21 <Tank_Master> ill be lost w/o ramsey work... :P

19:21 <nickuwo> read the whole thing, you'll get credits for those

19:21 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: it will get credited when/if nickuwo gets the validator working

19:21 <nickuwo> hehe

19:22 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

19:22 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Clear. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Clear. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Clear. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Clear. Low:64 F. / 18 C.;

19:23 <Tank_Master> nickuwo - oh, dont worry

19:23 <Tank_Master> youll piss someone off :P

19:24 <nickuwo> hehe

19:24 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:24 <Tank_Master> and yeah, ill probabaly be one of those who wont crunch after this batch...

19:25 <KathrynM> hello xcamel

19:25 <Tank_Master> sorry, but the credit seems a (although flaws) way to measure how much I am contrubuting

19:25 <Tank_Master> KM!

19:25 <KathrynM> &bighello

19:25 <Romulus> Hello bigt0242000, Celelaptop, Celelibi, CoderForLife, deprecated, desti, efc, ELGono, Eythan, FreeLarry58, hawmps, KathrynM, legreffier, Lorvija, mrxmike, MTughan, nickuwo, Novacrust, Oublei, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, redeeman, Romulus, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, thoren, Turf, up365, wdsmia, and xcamel

19:25 <PovAddict> it'd be like QMC

19:26 <PovAddict> QMC has long WUs and doesn't have trickles, so it takes a while but then your credit jumps up

19:26 <redeeman> lo

19:26 <Tank_Master> cept in the case of ramsey, you wont get credits

19:26 <PovAddict> you will, when nickuwo fixes the validator

19:27 <nickuwo> what if I give a file_delete_state = 2 to all workunits.... but kill my file_deleter

19:27 <PovAddict> nickuwo: that will do nothing at all (until you start the file_deleter again)

19:28 <Tank_Master> what if you run the grant_tank_Master_1_million_credits?

19:28 <nickuwo> so it'll send a workunit if it has a file_delete_state = 2?

19:28 <nickuwo> haha Tank

19:28 <Tank_Master> :D

19:28 <PovAddict> nickuwo: I don't think it would look at that field at all

19:28 <Tank_Master> sorry, had to put that in :P

19:29 <bigt0242000> funny story.

19:29 <Romulus> <> (at

19:29 <PovAddict> having file_delete_state=done and server_state=unsent probably can be considered a database inconsistency...

19:30 <Tank_Master> what about assign_all_remaining_WUs_to_Tank_Master?

19:31 <PovAddict> UPDATE user SET total_credit=10000000 WHERE name="Tank_Master" OR name="Nicolas";

19:31 <PovAddict> >:D

19:31 <KathrynM> or name=KSMarksPsych

19:31 <PovAddict> ok, looks like I can borrow the query from ops/cancel_wu_action.php

19:31 <KathrynM> don't forget me

19:32 <wdsmia> or me lol

19:32 <PovAddict> (it has two queries, one for unsent and another for sent work)

19:33 <PovAddict> nickuwo: ./bin/stop to make sure both scheduler and feeder are off, then login to the DB and do

19:33 <PovAddict> update result set server_state=5, outcome=5 where server_state=2;

19:33 <PovAddict> oh, looks like you need another to trigger the transitioner too

19:34 <quail> KathrynM: hi

19:34 <PovAddict> update workunit set transition_time=unix_timestamp() where outcome=5;

19:34 <KathrynM> hiya quail

19:34 <PovAddict> it will make the transitioner look at a lot of WUs where it isn't needed, but it won't be harmful (just take longer)

19:34 * PovAddict stops looking at server code

19:36 <PovAddict> woot, 22k on yoyo

19:36 <Tank_Master> not bad

19:36 <nickuwo> kool, thx pov

19:37 <PovAddict> only 0.15% OGR left?

19:37 <xcamel> over a million on milkyway...

19:38 <Tank_Master> nickuwo - will any new work be generated that will grant credits?

19:39 <nickuwo> not planning on it

19:39 <Tank_Master> (assuming you get the validator working)

19:39 <Tank_Master> ok

19:42 <nickuwo> PovAddict: there is no outcome col in workunit...

19:42 <wdsmia> over a million on seti, milkyway, cpdn. qmc, cosmo, einstine, abc...

19:42 <PovAddict> rats

19:42 <PovAddict> use it without any 'where' clause...

19:42 <PovAddict> the transitioner will spend some time processing every single WU in your database, but it will be fine :P

19:43 <nickuwo> sounds good :)

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20:01 <efc> moo

20:08 <xcamel> chirp

20:09 <wdsmia> burp

20:10 <xcamel>

20:10 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 October 13 - Cassini Passes Through Ice Plumes of Enceladus (at

20:11 <xcamel> very nice

20:12 * KathrynM heads to the funny farm, aka w*@^

20:20 <efc> Cassini continues its mission to Burrito, Chalupo, and Taco

20:23 <xcamel> I thought it was latte, espresso, and demitas

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20:32 <CoderForLife> Wynken, Blynken, and Nod

20:33 * CoderForLife gives up on w@#% homew@#%

20:33 <CoderForLife> gn from the Magic Kingdon

20:33 <wdsmia> about time

20:34 <wdsmia> cya

20:34 <CoderForLife> thx =)

20:34 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:41 * xcamel yawns again

21:41 <xcamel> Flaming Pet Rat Starts Fire, Damages Titusville Home

21:41 <xcamel>

21:41 <Romulus> Title: Flaming Pet Rat Starts Fire, Damages Titusville Home - News Story - WFTV Orlando (at

21:43 <wdsmia> that would have been a darwin award if they didnt get out

21:45 <xcamel> pretty close.

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21:46 <wdsmia> another one that  should be cut out of the heard

21:46 <Romulus> <> (at

21:51 <wdsmia> lol;_ylt=Av3fwLPXMHYl45EylW7zkfrtiBIF

21:51 <Romulus> <> (at

21:52 <wdsmia> Vice President Dick Cheney was a distant cousin of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

21:53 <wdsmia> Other researchers discovered Obama is distant cousins with actor Brad Pitt.

21:54 <xcamel> I thought it was Olive Pitt.

21:54 <wdsmia> same diff

21:54 <xcamel> or Odinga the Fascists madman of Kenya

21:55 <xcamel> well... off with me.

21:55 <xcamel> laterz...

21:55 <wdsmia> cya

21:58 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:16 <PovAddict> what the

22:20 <Soul_keeper>

22:20 <Romulus> Title: Obama Crimes (at

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22:36 <FreeLarry58> humm is it just me or is einstien been having a lot of server problems?

22:37 <Soul_keeper> it gives lots of credit, probably a whole bunch of users know this now :)

22:37 * FreeLarry58 oops angry wife just got home and raising the roof over something

22:37 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:38 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah have over 4000 in pending currently

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23:03 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

23:03 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 60.6F / 15.9C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Patchy blowing dust in the evening. Lows 51 to 59. Winds northeast 15 to 20 mph...becoming 20 to 30 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Sunny. Patchy blowing dust. Highs 83 to 88 in the western valleys to 79 to 84 (1 more message)

23:03 <Soul_keeper> excellent weather

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23:27 <Tank_Master> &bighello

23:27 <Romulus> Hello Celelaptop, Celelibi, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, Eythan, freakazoid0223, FreeLarry58, hawmps, infinisoft, KathrynM, legreffier, Lorvija, MTughan, Novacrust, Oublei, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, redeeman, Romulus, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, thoren, Turf, up365, wdsmia, and xcamel

23:28 <MTughan> TM...

23:28 <Tank_Master> what?

23:28 <MTughan> F off.

23:28 <Tank_Master> good to see someone is here

23:28 <Tank_Master> :P

23:28 <MTughan> I'm not. Watching Duck Soup with the Marx bros in it.

23:28 <Tank_Master> and?

23:28 <Romulus> and is with no internet for like a month, Tank_Master

23:28 <Tank_Master> wtf, rommie?

23:31 <MTughan> If it helps, it's the one where Harpo lights a cigar using a flamethrower. :P

23:36 <quail> &bighello

23:36 <Romulus> Hello Celelaptop, Celelibi, d00m1001, deprecated, desti, ELGono, Eythan, freakazoid0223, FreeLarry58, hawmps, infinisoft, KathrynM, legreffier, Lorvija, MTughan, Novacrust, Oublei, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, redeeman, Romulus, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, thoren, Turf, up365, wdsmia, and xcamel

23:36 <PovAddict> stop highlighting me >.<

23:36 <Tank_Master> hi PovAddict

23:37 <quail> PovAddict: lol it happened to me twice today so far >.<

23:37 <Tank_Master> hiya quail ;)

23:39 <infinisoft> Hello?

23:39 <Tank_Master> hi

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