IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-10-15

00:00 <jasong> Quick question: Where's the best place to find out about BOINC alpha projects?

00:06 <PovAddict> ask zombie67 :)

00:06 <PovAddict> (is he here?)

00:06 <jasong> lol, thanks, he's on my team so that's great news

00:07 <jasong> No, he doesn't seem to be here

00:07 <jasong> Should I just stick around and wait for him?

00:08 <jasong> Wait, isn't KathrynM an addicted to alpha "member?"

00:26 <Soul_keeper> she's a teacher, she'll send you to detention :)

00:27 <jasong> Does she encourage the kids to crunch BOINC?

00:27 <jasong> Wait, nm, I shouldn't assume she deals with children

00:28 <jasong> Although detention would suggest that

00:28 * jasong is confusing himself

00:29 <Soul_keeper> i dunno, i thought PovAddict was the alpha expert ...

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00:43 <quail>

00:43 <Romulus> <> (at

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00:55 <Soul_keeper> nice

00:56 <Soul_keeper> one could almost go on a "only bux tux labeled hardware" policy

00:56 <Soul_keeper> buy*

00:57 <quail> Soul_keeper: I have noticed that tdk usb flash drive have the tux logo on them to

00:58 <Soul_keeper> nice

00:58 * quail big linux supporter

00:59 <quail> well it the only OS I use

00:59 <quail> and I have converted my mum over to using Debian too, and she loves it

01:00 <quail> Soul_keeper: the 23 in 1 card reader only cost me 9AUD

01:03 <efc> moo

01:04 <quail> meep meep

01:07 <Tank_Master> yo

01:11 <Soul_keeper> quail, you are a pillar of the community

01:11 <Tank_Master> heh

01:11 <Tank_Master> right

01:12 <Tank_Master> n I thought he was just the pillar one uses to knoch the mud off one's shoes...

01:12 <Tank_Master> :P

01:20 <quail> hehe

01:23 <Tank_Master> sorry, couldnt resist

01:24 <quail> np

01:24 <Tank_Master> :)

01:28 * efc is a pillow of the community. Zzzz.

01:28 <quail> efc: night night

01:28 <Tank_Master> one in which we can leave outside for the dog to sleep on in the rain

01:29 <Tank_Master> gn efc

01:29 <quail> lol

01:30 <quail> Tank_Master: I thought it be one that goes to hawmps for his llamas to sleep on :-P

01:30 <efc> Not out yet

01:31 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:31 <Tank_Master> my bad :D

01:31 <quail> sorry efc

01:32 <quail> morgan freeman has a great voice for narrating

01:33 <quail> I just watched a nation geographic doco about 'yellow stone national park' and morgan freeman was the narrator

01:33 * efc imagines him as the Darth Vader voice

01:40 <Soul_keeper> :)

01:40 <Soul_keeper> morgan freeman was the host for the video game award shows too

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01:41 * efc briefly things about getting a NAS

01:44 <efc> nice, $36 USB cable, thx belkin

01:48 <efc> 2 gig micro SD card is like $4... amazing

01:50 <Soul_keeper> stuff is amazingly cheap

01:50 <Soul_keeper> micron is saying it costs them more to make it then they can sale it for

01:50 <Soul_keeper> they just shut down some plants

01:50 <efc> this is for my GPS, came with a 64 meg, and would have taken forever to even fill that

01:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah i could use one for my digital camera

01:51 <Soul_keeper> i just put it off because i don't use it too often or far from my pc

01:51 <efc> the things are tiny, not much bigger than their connector

01:56 <efc> yet, 32 gig solid state drive is $300. Ought to be like $32 ..

01:58 <Tank_Master> yeah

01:58 <efc> Just duct tape 8 micro-SD cards together. Might be slow but still.

01:59 <efc> oh, here's a 32 gig for $100 after rebate

01:59 <efc> almost feel sorry for them not being able to get margins on anything

02:03 <Tank_Master> :P

02:03 <Tank_Master> almost

02:04 <efc> also getting a USB male-male cable so I can talk to a TV.. Wonder if I'll need any special software for that.

02:13 <efc> male/A to male/A is kind of rare

02:18 <Soul_keeper> the tv just told me dolphins try to rape human beings ....

02:19 <Soul_keeper> might be advisable not to swim

02:19 <efc> Any humans going after the dolphins?

02:19 <Tank_Master> I got a few male-male USB cables

02:20 <Soul_keeper> they got a 9"  and just come after you

02:20 <Soul_keeper> according to "manswers"

02:20 <efc> That might not go too well

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02:22 <Soul_keeper> lol

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02:24 * efc wonders who writes the junk answers on Yahoo answers

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02:35 * efc wonders what that TV's rs232 port (usb) will do..

02:38 <efc> maybe for reading a USB stick

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02:53 <efc>

02:53 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Electromagnetic Spectrum (at

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04:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx Orlando, FL

04:29 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 69.0F / 20.6C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph becoming around 5 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the upper (1 more message)

04:29 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

04:29 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

04:30 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

04:30 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 61.5F / 16.4C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Becoming mostly cloudy. Patchy fog early. A slight chance of showers late this morning and afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 (1 more message)

04:30 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

04:30 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the morning. Highs in the mid 60s. North winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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04:43 <_Danilo_> hi all

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04:59 * KathrynM settles down with spicy chicken and a beer

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06:02 <legreffier> this is sick LHC is out of order

06:03 <legreffier> i wanna contribute to the black hole that will blow the planet

06:03 <legreffier> :'(

06:18 <clusty> hey guys

06:18 <clusty> do you run boinc on linux all of you?

06:21 <KathrynM> I have 2 linux boxes at home and a Windows box at work

06:21 <KathrynM> although both Linux boxes dual boot (one XP Pro, one Vista)

06:23 <hawmps> 'lo

06:24 <KathrynM> hiya hawmps

06:34 <hawmps> mornin K

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07:17 <CoderOnTheRoad> bacl later

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09:12 <quail> g'evening all

09:12 <quail> &wx ypad

09:12 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM CST; Clear. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:62 F. / 17 (1 more message)

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09:52 <PovAdct_w> <jasong> Wait, isn't KathrynM an addicted to alpha "member?"

09:52 <PovAdct_w> jasong2: yes she is

09:52 <PovAdct_w> member of ATA and also an english teacher

10:00 <quail> ay PovAdct_w

10:00 <quail> what been happening?

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10:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

10:58 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 69.0F / 20.6C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Becoming mostly cloudy. Patchy fog early. A slight chance of showers late this morning and afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a (1 more message)

10:58 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: ay

10:58 <PovAdct_w> oi

10:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey quail

10:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey PovAdct_w

10:59 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: how are you mate?

10:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> wife is doing a bit better today

10:59 <quail> :-)

10:59 <Tank_Master> mornin

11:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> as a consequence, I am spending a bit more time in the room catching up on w@#% things

11:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey Tank_Master

11:00 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: send my wishes to her, and hope she gets better very soon

11:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> she needs to travel tomorrow, so no fainting allowed =)

11:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> not that is was allowed last night either =)

11:01 <FreeLarry58> ;) CoderOnTheRoad

11:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey FreeLarry58

11:01 <quail> FreeLarry58: ay, long time champ

11:01 <FreeLarry58> just noticed that vista machine dead again - must be related to update tuesday - seems like evry week the same thing

11:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> nothing ends a shoppng trip faster than a desire to hit the deck

11:02 <FreeLarry58> howdy quail

11:02 <PovAdct_w> I'm w$%&ing on those updates still FreeLarry58

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11:02 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: that harsh buying :-(

11:02 * FreeLarry58 winces at those to words CoderOnTheRoad 'shopping' being the worse of the two

11:02 <PovAdct_w> one update failed, and it wouldn't let me try installing it again until I had rebooted

11:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol

11:03 <FreeLarry58> yeah PovAdct_w one machine doing its updates now the others haven't recieved

11:03 <FreeLarry58> vista keps rebooting by itself

11:03 <PovAdct_w> CoderOnTheRoad: are you sure your wife didn't faint because of the prices?

11:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I told her this morning, if she wanted breakfast in bed, all she had to do was ask

11:03 <quail> anyone here use tangogps?

11:03 <FreeLarry58> yup other machine needs a reboot now

11:04 <FreeLarry58> quail???

11:04 <Romulus> I guess quail is not a unix guru but I tinker with linux, FreeLarry58

11:04 <FreeLarry58> Romulus stop spreading lies

11:04 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Are you daft?

11:04 <Tank_Master> lol

11:04 <FreeLarry58> not in the least Romulus

11:04 <quail> te hehe

11:04 <FreeLarry58> he's getting better aint he

11:05 <quail> nope

11:05 <quail> lmao

11:06 <quail> FreeLarry58:

11:06 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - tangoGPS 0.9.3 demo, a map and GPS app for Linux (at

11:06 <PovAdct_w> hmm interesting

11:06 * PovAdct_w has a garmin

11:07 <quail> PovAdct_w: I bought one theses gps units =>

11:07 <Romulus> <> (at

11:08 <quail> I still waiting for it tho

11:08 <PovAdct_w> &currency convert 64.95 aud ars

11:08 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: 64.95 aud = 143.25 ars

11:08 <PovAdct_w> :o

11:08 <quail> PovAdct_w: that expensive?

11:09 <quail> PovAdct_w: it 73.90AUD to my door

11:09 <quail> in total

11:10 <quail> &currency convert 73.90 aud ars

11:10 <Romulus> quail: 73.90 aud = 162.99 ars

11:10 * CoderOnTheRoad doesn't have a GPS

11:11 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: get a neo freerunner :-P

11:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> I rarely go anywhere where I need one

11:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> I have very seldom gotten lost between home and w@#%

11:12 <quail> hehe

11:12 <PovAdct_w> don't go anywhere interesting on weekends?

11:12 <PovAdct_w> (do you have weekends?)

11:12 <FreeLarry58> and for short shopping trips not worth it to me

11:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> I w@#% on weekends, or I Code

11:12 <quail> PovAdct_w: he a geek and locked in a cage at home :-P

11:13 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm hopeful to get back to Code very soon

11:13 * FreeLarry58 thinks CoderOnTheRoad has kb's permenantly attached to both hands

11:13 <PovAdct_w> ah like me then

11:13 <quail> PovAdct_w: do any of geeks really get out and about?

11:13 <FreeLarry58> good timing PovAdct_w ;)

11:13 <PovAdct_w> (that in reply to all the last six lines or so)

11:13 <CoderOnTheRoad> been learning about cloud computing here at Gartner Symposium

11:14 <PovAdct_w> CoderOnTheRoad: that's like web 2.0

11:14 <PovAdct_w> "let's call it cloud computing! what will it be about?"

11:14 <FreeLarry58> oh no - don't tell me the weather (mother earth) getting into programming tooo.....

11:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> I think of Web 2.0 more as mashups, social networking and wot not

11:15 <quail> PovAdct_w: lets call it the next generation of screwiness

11:15 <PovAdct_w> CoderOnTheRoad: I thought that was cloud computing?

11:15 * PovAdct_w scratches head

11:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> cloud computing is about doing business using services

11:15 * PovAdct_w doesn't like web apps; best feature of gmail is IMAP

11:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> it's still an emrging concept

11:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> emerging even

11:16 <PovAdct_w> well, lots of websites tell users (not businesses) to "store their data in the cloud"

11:17 <FreeLarry58> been hearing about it over past few years CoderOnTheRoad -- seemed just another way to extract money from the populous to me

11:17 <PovAdct_w> so it's also

11:18 <CoderOnTheRoad> Gartner's definition: "A style of computing where massively scalable and elastic IT-related capabilities are provided 'as a service' to multiple external customers using Internet technologies"

11:18 * FreeLarry58 is more worried about what sort of info would be suseptable to hacking and site employee explotation

11:19 <PovAdct_w> "emerging technology" doesn't seem right

11:19 <PovAdct_w> isn't the whole Google searching backend built like that?

11:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> it's not a technology

11:19 <FreeLarry58> dang vista has 9 updates no wonder it keeps geting a reboot after every attempt at download

11:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> it's "a style of computing"

11:20 <PovAdct_w> s/technology/concept

11:20 <Tank_Master> oh, MS finally announed the name they will use for windows 7 - the next OS

11:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> Gartner just revised their definition yesterday = emerging  =)

11:20 <Tank_Master> itll be called Windows 7

11:21 <FreeLarry58> heard a different name but doesn't come to mind right now - kind of like the longhorn/vista project

11:22 <PovAdct_w> vienna?

11:22 <FreeLarry58> or was that xp64?

11:22 <PovAdct_w> I think that name was dropped a while ago

11:23 <PovAdct_w> back when Vista was in development, they said the codename for the one after Vista was going to be Vienna

11:24 <FreeLarry58> anyway PovAdct_w if you want you can xfer files from your existing nix here to one of the other 2 nix machines for storage/possible use -- email server not allowed yet eithe

11:24 <FreeLarry58> r

11:25 <quail> anyone a ebay guru here?

11:26 <DerMeister> Damn coffee... Why does this stuff cool down so fast?!?

11:26 <quail> DerMeister: cause you not a usb heater pad :-P

11:27 <quail>

11:27 <Romulus> <> (at

11:28 <DerMeister> Yeah, I guess that's the cause ^^

11:30 <quail> my usb beverage warmer was given to by a friend

11:30 <Tank_Master> lol

11:31 <Tank_Master> someone watching stargate?

11:31 <quail> Tank_Master: it just the many things he has snafued from is work

11:32 <Tank_Master> :P

11:33 <quail> I have a full copy of Microsoft vista premimum here I have never used

11:33 <Tank_Master> 32bit?

11:33 <quail> 64

11:33 <Tank_Master> hey, ill take it

11:33 <Tank_Master> :P

11:34 <quail> legit cd key etc

11:34 <Tank_Master> even better

11:34 <PovAdct_w> I'm at work with 90% pirated Windowses :P

11:34 <Tank_Master> nice

11:34 <quail> it not a priate copy it still in wrapper

11:35 <quail> I keeping this copy cause it a good wind up bottom

11:36 <quail> eg I run linux and not have to go back to windows for anything

11:37 <quail> and I am very happy my mums Debian box is running great, and she worked out the bluetooth stuff on her own

11:37 <Tank_Master> nice

11:38 <quail> she loves linux

11:39 <quail> but I have to revise my teaching methords tho

11:40 <quail> cause my mum does not like it when I show her how to do stuff, cause she wants to do it first hand herself

11:44 <CoderOnTheRoad> off to get lunch for the wife - laterz

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11:44 <Tank_Master> gl?

11:47 <PovAdct_w> who hates Office07 Ribbon interface?

11:48 <PovAdct_w> <- hell

11:48 <Romulus> <> (at

11:48 <quail> never used, but cause it a microsoft product, yeah I dislike it

11:49 <Tank_Master> lol

11:49 <Tank_Master> Im used to it now

11:49 <PovAdct_w> that's MS Paint

11:49 <Tank_Master> n I like it

11:49 <Tank_Master> ahh, from windows 7

11:49 <PovAdct_w> I gotta close irc to free memory (running a virtual machine)

11:49 <PovAdct_w> yeah win7

11:49 <Tank_Master> wordpag for windows 7 is quite good

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11:50 <Tank_Master> pad*

11:52 <Tank_Master> and the calculator for win7 has also been drasticly upgraded

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13:20 <yoyo[RKN]> re

13:21 <Tank_Master> yo

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13:32 <FreeLarry58> humm virtual earth 3d has an update

13:41 <FreeLarry58>

13:41 <Romulus> <> (at

13:42 <FreeLarry58> apperently depending on angle the time of day keeps switching

13:42 <FreeLarry58> but looks good

13:54 <Tank_Master> dude

13:54 <Tank_Master> clouds?

13:54 <Tank_Master> awsome

13:57 <FreeLarry58> yah they added weather

13:58 <FreeLarry58> above was my meighborhood

13:58 <FreeLarry58> n

13:58 <Tank_Master> it didnt go to your local

13:58 <FreeLarry58> oh

13:59 <FreeLarry58> i see

13:59 <Tank_Master> n/m

13:59 <FreeLarry58> last time i posted a link showing house it did now just to start

13:59 <Tank_Master> it did on a refrsh

13:59 <FreeLarry58> ahh

14:00 <Tank_Master> damn flat out there

14:00 <FreeLarry58> lol a bit

14:00 <FreeLarry58> try birds eye

14:01 <Tank_Master> its grayed out

14:01 <Tank_Master> odd

14:01 <FreeLarry58> maybe need update?

14:01 <Tank_Master> had it before

14:02 <FreeLarry58> ahh just noticed the update today on microsoft update link

14:02 <FreeLarry58> didn't see it last week

14:03 <Tank_Master> I think this is the updated version

14:03 <Tank_Master> I dont rememebr seeing the curve of the earth so much befor

14:03 <Tank_Master> and the clouds are new

14:04 <Tank_Master> nice sky when you zoom out all the way

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14:11 <FreeLarry58> yeah - just took a closer look in birds eye down to 6 m size - picture from early last year

14:12 <FreeLarry58> as did landscaping changes late summer last year

14:14 <FreeLarry58> bit sscary when you stop and realize govt has realtime capabilities

14:14 <hawmps> google earth pro is still better

14:14 <Tank_Master> lol

14:14 <FreeLarry58> probably but haven't played with it for a while either

14:14 <Tank_Master> yeah, it is scarry, depending on who is watching and why

14:14 <FreeLarry58> true

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15:30 <DerMeister> Hm... According to boincstats I got *exactly* 50,000 credits on Einstein...

15:34 <wdsmia_w> Hm... According to boincstats I got *exactly* 1,036,270.86 credits on Einstein... :D

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15:35 <DerMeister> Well, that's much but not a nice and clean number ;)

15:36 <wdsmia_w> lol

15:39 <wdsmia_w> ok  boincstats  says I have a RAC of 1 on Einstein thats clean

15:40 <Tank_Master> Hm... According to boincstats I got *exactly* 232,518.58 credits on Einstein...

15:42 * wdsmia_w slaps Tank_Master 232,518.58 times

15:42 <Tank_Master> :P

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15:54 <DerMeister> I wonder how you would slap him 0.58 times...

15:59 <wdsmia_w> after 232,518 times my arm got tired

16:00 <Tank_Master> heh

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16:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx Orlando, FL

16:24 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 82.9F / 28.3C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly (1 more message)

16:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

16:24 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 80.9F / 27.2C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Becoming mostly cloudy. Scattered showers. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west late. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers in the morning. (1 more message)

16:25 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

16:25 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Highs in the mid 60s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Much cooler with lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:26 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx Dayton, OH

16:26 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 81.7F / 27.6C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with scattered showers this evening... mostly cloudy with showers likely after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west late. Chance of rain 70 percent.; (1 more message)

16:26 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

16:26 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Thursday - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers in the morning... then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. North winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Much cooler with lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> hmm

16:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> autumn

16:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> what a concept

16:37 * wdsmia_w dumps a bucket of leafs over CoderOnTheRoad's head

16:37 <CoderOnTheRoad> I bet autumn is an outcome of cloud computing

16:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> that's "leaves" - what kind of education do they pawn off in Iowa?

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16:39 * CoderOnTheRoad packs his suitcase while listening to

16:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> probably the same discount education I got here

16:42 <CoderOnTheRoad> the "individualized instruction" experiment in the early 70's about ruined me

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16:44 <wdsmia_w> select audit_operation.operation_details, audit_operation.operation_name, audit_event.event_start_date, audit_event.operator from audit_event,audit_operation where audit_event.external_id='9A00074'

16:45 <wdsmia_w> damn wrong window

16:46 <wdsmia_w> must be time to go home

16:50 <CoderOnTheRoad> going home is always in order

16:51 <CoderOnTheRoad> nice SQL BTw

16:52 <wdsmia_w> bbl

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16:55 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:03 <xcamel> How's the wife doing?

17:05 <xcamel> CoderOnTheRoad?

17:05 <Romulus> I guess CoderOnTheRoad is plugged in at 100mbps, xcamel

17:05 <xcamel> you wish, rom...

17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> hi xcmael

17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> er xcamel

17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> thanks for asking

17:06 <xcamel> everything OK now?

17:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> she's doing OK - been stuffing her full of food and liquids

17:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> not quite up to snuff, but I think she's OK to travel as long as we don't rush/overdo it

17:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> we fly our of Orlando at 5-something tomorrow afternoon

17:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> she walked down to dinner tonight, rather than room service or me picking up meals

17:10 <CoderOnTheRoad> I need this lady - we'll have to get some tests run once we get back - the parameds didn't see anything out of whack with their equipment

17:30 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:31 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:31 <wdsmia> Hi Jay

17:32 <xcamel> just one knock-out punch tonight... just one....

17:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> welcome home Doug - no SQL required

17:32 <wdsmia> :P

17:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> or just SQL optional

17:33 <xcamel> Mr. Obama: Please explain to America what it was like to live with Ayers/Dhorn for 2 years while you were at Columbia, in NYC...

17:34 <xcamel> That would be from mid 1981 to early 1983, right?

17:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> that's what I was thinking - all his school records are surpressed

17:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> Bush released his grades - as abysmal as those were

17:41 <xcamel> NY had Elliot Spitzer... America is gonna get Obamallamadingdong.

17:44 <CoderOnTheRoad> did you see where he promised to spread the wealth?

17:47 <xcamel> the 'plumber' has been all over the news lately... and sticking to his guns...

17:51 <xcamel> He now hates "The One"

17:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> The One wants his money

17:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> that make it fair to others

18:00 <xcamel> Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...

18:01 <xcamel> The pilgrims learned their lesson the hard way...

18:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> about time to renew the hotel broadband agreement - if I drop I'll be back

18:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> wow - since they nailed that one spammer, I have virtually no spam attempts

18:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> enjoy it while it lasts, I'm sure

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18:26 <ELGono> ahoi dudes

18:37 <CoderOnTheRoad> ahoy from Disney World

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18:46 <xcamel> 'lo ElG

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18:47 <CoderForLife> there was the broadband renewal timeout

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18:48 <xcamel>

18:48 <Romulus> <> (at

18:48 <xcamel> grrr..

18:48 <xcamel>

18:48 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 October 15 - Camera Orion (at

18:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> freeping

18:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> oh, apoding

18:50 <CoderOnTheRoad> wow

18:53 <ELGono> i did some nice shots with heidis cam

18:54 <xcamel> and?

18:54 <Romulus> hmm... and is with no internet for like a month, xcamel

18:55 <ELGono>

18:55 <Romulus> <> (at

18:55 <ELGono>

18:55 <Romulus> <> (at

18:55 <ELGono> ~35 mb

18:55 <xcamel> thanks for the warning...

18:55 <ELGono> got a nice RAW converter and still trying with hdr

18:55 <xcamel> anything smaller?

18:56 <ELGono> this were the first tries.... not that great :)

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18:56 <ELGono> oh wait, i'll jpeg them

18:56 <xcamel> hmm.. good composition..

18:57 <efc> moo

18:57 <ELGono> mo eddie

18:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> getting some LHC WUs at home

18:58 <ELGono> did also a nice 60 timeshift vid

18:58 <xcamel> there is allot of data in that tif

18:58 <ELGono> but still coding on that ;)

18:58 <ELGono> will be downsized to 1080p

18:59 <xcamel> the naked lady, 2 blocks over, 3rd floor... I think she's taking a shower...

18:59 <ELGono> hehe thats why i take shots at night

18:59 * efc starts paying attention

19:00 <xcamel> a couple lhc's

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19:11 <xcamel> &ping

19:11 <Romulus> pong

19:11 <wdsmia> &ding

19:11 <Romulus> DONG!

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19:12 <xcamel> hmmm...

19:12 <xcamel> web access just went south...

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19:12 <wdsmia> yankee broadband?

19:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> getting ice - brb

19:13 <xcamel> strange.. could have been the browser or something...

19:14 <xcamel> and the machine even beeped... thanks doug

19:15 <ELGono> uuuhhhh maschine beeping is like kind of horror to me

19:16 <ELGono> even hate that on-boot-beep ... cause it sounds like downtime

19:16 <xcamel> <ctrl>G

19:16 * wdsmia remembers the old dec writers Beep Beep Beep

19:17 <ELGono> hehe one needle graphics mode

19:18 <xcamel> them too..

19:19 <xcamel> If McCain takes the "gloves off" will Barry get punched in the knees?

19:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> that was Bel Bel Bel in ASCII, wdsmia

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19:21 <wdsmia> Beep Beep your Ass is what i remember lol

19:22 <xcamel> teh signal that the sysadmin was going out to coffee...

19:22 <wdsmia> dismount requests on old optical platters

19:23 <xcamel> one 96MB CDC, please...

19:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> I thought that was a hammer

19:23 <xcamel> 5 internal, one removable

19:24 <wdsmia> older Optimem 1001's

19:28 <wdsmia> 12 inch platter with sleeve insert on top

19:28 <xcamel> those were tough birds..

19:28 <wdsmia> more like Bird sh$#

19:30 <xcamel> lol

19:31 <ELGono> just uploading a 0ld5k3wl vid for you...

19:33 <ELGono> speaking of printing with one needle ,,,

19:33 <ELGono> classic one ;)

19:33 <xcamel> trying to figure out why outlook2003 makes RDT through my vpn just about useless.

19:36 <CoderOnTheRoad> all clues point to Microsoft

19:38 <xcamel> now it's crashed..

19:38 <xcamel> F* it.

19:45 <xcamel> damn I hate that..

19:48 <ELGono> hehe i'm still working on a **** powerpoint pres. .... friends moms laptop went kaflooey

19:48 <ELGono> and she needs it tomorrow....

19:48 <ELGono> and suddenly i remember why i do all my presentations in pdf

19:51 <xcamel> nothing like a multi-godzillabyte avi file

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19:52 <xcamel> crusty the clown?

19:53 <efc> Tired but back

19:54 <efc> xcamel: the big Disc Pak coffee-cake-mold size things?

19:54 <xcamel> yeah... them.

19:54 <xcamel> only bigger..

19:55 <xcamel> 16" platters

19:55 * efc still proud of selling his 9-track drive for $200

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19:57 <xcamel> off to watch the tube..

19:57 <efc> Night X

20:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> ditto from Disney

20:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> gn

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20:05 * KathrynM yawns

20:05 <zombie67> ugh...OO 3 is taking FOREVER to d/l

20:08 <zombie67> i am only a few days away from 1M in both yoyo and 3x+1

20:09 * wdsmia is only a few days away from 1M LHC ;)

20:10 <zombie67> impressive!

20:10 <zombie67> esp with the non-constant work

20:10 <zombie67> wow.  OO3 is 383 mb

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20:19 <PovAddict> OO3?!

20:19 <PovAddict> open office?

20:20 <PovAddict> v3 already?

20:23 <zombie67> yep

20:23 <zombie67> and a mac version now!

20:26 <FreeLarry58> thats odd PovAddict - i just put oo 2.4.1 on a few weeks ago

20:26 <PovAddict> zombie67: they have always had a Mac version

20:26 <PovAddict> but it sucked (X11, not using Cocoa)

20:28 <zombie67> right

20:29 <MTughan> Still not quite stable, but it is nicer.

20:29 * KathrynM head off to the germ factory to see the little parasites.

20:29 <PovAddict> so now OOo has a Cocoa version?

20:29 <zombie67> I still use NeoOffice

20:29 <PovAddict> my dad uses NeoOffice too

20:29 <zombie67> but, I will be trying OO3 for a while now

20:29 <zombie67> then make a decision

20:29 <PovAddict> "which do I dislike least"? :)

20:29 <MTughan> I found NeoOffice to be slower and it doesn't play well with my transparent window mods. No Java program does.

20:30 <zombie67> I found neooffice to be slow to start.  But once started, it is not slow for me.

20:30 <PovAddict> MTughan: better than having to buy Microshaft Office for Mac huh?

20:30 <zombie67> no other problems

20:30 <MTughan> PovAddict: I did. It's not installed now.

20:31 <PovAddict> it better not have ribbons

20:31 <MTughan> Oh... And Office plays even worse with the transparent windows...

20:31 <MTughan> Naw, I had Office '04.

20:32 <PovAddict> Apple employees will attack Microsoft building with printed copies of their UI guidelines the day ribbon gets to the Mac

20:32 <MTughan> Hehe... I could believe it. Wish I could be there too.

20:34 <zombie67> what is the keystroke combo to bring up the force quit dialog box on osx?

20:34 <zombie67> nm

20:34 <MTughan> Cmd-Option-Esc

20:34 <MTughan> Yeah, in the Apple menu... ;)

20:35 <zombie67> can't use the apple menu when the finder is beach-balled

20:35 <MTughan> Ouch...

20:35 * efc thinks the win UI topped out around 2000

20:35 <zombie67> it fixed itself after about 20 sec

20:35 <zombie67> OO3 related?

20:35 <zombie67> can't tell

20:35 <zombie67> I liked W2K

20:36 <zombie67> Xp just seemed like eye candy

20:36 <MTughan> zombie67: Did you know that Text Editor on Leopard can edit ODT files?

20:36 <zombie67> on top of W2K

20:36 <zombie67> interesting.  I never use the word processor for OO

20:36 <zombie67> only spreadsheets and presentations

20:37 <MTughan> Nothing to edit ODS and ODP files yet...

20:37 <zombie67> if I need text....well....that's what a text editor is for

20:37 <MTughan> Other than OOo or NeoOffice, that is.

20:37 <MTughan> Apple probably wants you to buy the iWorks suite.

20:38 <zombie67> if you have to use fancy colors and fonts to make what you are saying look interesting....then you should probably work on making it ACTUALLY interesting instead.

20:38 <PovAddict> I use HTML :D

20:38 <zombie67> 2.0?

20:39 <MTughan> Please no...

20:39 * efc tries to cook up something

20:39 <MTughan> HTML 2.0 uses tons of JS, which just slows down the web browser. With today's broadband connections, there's not that much of a speed increase over straight HTML.

20:40 <MTughan> NoScript++

20:40 <zombie67> just plain old ascii please

20:40 <MTughan> Hehe...

20:41 <MTughan> ASCII or UTF-8 for you?

20:41 <MTughan> Remember, ASCII is just a text encoding. It's still used often in the web.

20:42 <PovAddict> HTML 2.0? huh

20:42 <PovAddict> we've been up to 4.01 for a while :)

20:42 <MTughan> Oh yeah... Web 2.0 and HTML 4.01/5... *smacks head*

20:43 <zombie67> plain text can do anything...

20:43 <zombie67>   ----  .__o

20:43 <zombie67> ----- _-\_<,

20:43 <zombie67> ---  (*)/'(*)

20:45 <MTughan> What is it?

20:45 <Romulus> I guess it is an OK movie, MTughan

20:46 <PovAddict> a biker

20:47 <MTughan> Ah, there... Had to take it into monospace, that did it.

20:47 <zombie67> cyclist

20:47 <zombie67> with speed lines

20:47 <zombie67> I have all my tools set up to use monospace fonts

20:48 <MTughan> IRC client is using a sans-serif font. Monaco IIRC.

20:48 <zombie67> I grew up on unix on a wyse glow

20:48 <MTughan> lol

20:48 <zombie67> Trvth

20:48 <zombie67> SuOS3.0

20:49 <zombie67> SunOS 3.0

20:49 <zombie67> vt100

20:49 <MTughan> Earliest I can remember is an old Win 3.11 system over at a friend's house.

20:55 <zombie67> I remember using DOS for the first time, and thinking, "This is just like unix, but they got the slash backwards....idiots."

20:56 <MTughan> lol... I still think that.

20:56 <MTughan> At least it's smart enough to flip forward slashes to back slashes.

20:57 <zombie67> *sigh*....time to yell at a supplier in China.  Later.

20:57 <MTughan> Bye.

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21:01 <efc> Ugh, time to turn off the tv

21:03 <Soul_keeper>

21:03 <Romulus> <> (at

21:05 <MTughan> They need better compression on the feed. Pauses about every two seconds.

21:05 <Soul_keeper> probably thousands watching it

21:06 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm nowhere near my bandwidth limit.

21:07 <MTughan> Well, the audio's streaming now... Video's stopped.

21:09 <efc> They should use that special codec that can only compress false statements

21:11 <MTughan> rofl... It'd still be constant?

21:11 <efc> 2 hour debates compresses to a logical "0"

21:11 <MTughan> rofl

21:12 <efc> I didn't get around to registering to vote :( Don't shoot me

21:13 <MTughan> Who is Joe the plumber anyway?

21:23 <efc> Did they keep bringing him up? Was busy cooking

21:23 <PovAddict>

21:23 <Romulus> <> (at

21:23 <MTughan> Couple times, yeah.

21:24 <MTughan> Ouch... I don't use Facebook on my Windows comp, just on my Mac comp.

21:25 <PovAddict> and I don't use Facebook

21:25 <MTughan> Even better.

21:25 <MTughan> What platforms does F-Secure document?

21:26 <PovAddict> there's more info on their blog ->

21:26 <Romulus> <> (at

21:30 * efc turns TV on and hopes for commercials

21:34 * PovAddict wouldn't *own* a TV if he lived alone

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22:48 <efc> ?

22:48 <MTughan> "?" About what?

22:49 <efc> Pov's comment

22:49 <PovAddict> is there anything worth watching?

22:49 <MTughan> News.

22:49 <MTughan> \

22:49 * PovAddict just found a bug

22:49 <efc> i watch 2 things + news during the week

22:49 <MTughan> Physical or programmatically?

22:50 <xcamel> not really - the MSM has shoved it's collective head up Zero-Bama's a$$

22:50 <MTughan> I had a large physical bug in here before... Was hanging around the fluorescent lamps. Killed now.

22:50 * PovAddict notes he started his exploit test with the HTML doctype

22:50 <PovAddict> I can't avoid using valid HTML everywhere :P

22:51 <MTughan> Wow... I can't reach Google, but I can reach Facebook...

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22:54 <MTughan> Yep, I can reach E@H and QCN fine too... Good, comps can keep crunching. :P

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23:13 <PovAddict>

23:13 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #242212 (at

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23:28 <zombie67> so I decide to shut down all my Pentium Ds, and AMD X2s.

23:29 <zombie67> turns out that they all have a damn orbit task that is going to last another week or two.

23:29 <KathrynM> ouch

23:30 <zombie67> such is life.

23:30 <zombie67> depspid is down.

23:31 <zombie67> hope that means something good is about to happen!

23:31 <PovAddict> indeed

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23:31 <PovAddict> I wonder if I have any GPU power left to run GPUGRID

23:31 <zombie67> oops

23:31 <jasong2> Zombie, I've been told you're the Alpha expert.

23:32 <jasong2> Where's the best place to find out about up and coming projects

23:32 <PovAddict> well, at least he will know about new projects :)

23:32 <PovAddict> IIRC zombie67 had a list on his website

23:32 <zombie67> heh

23:32 <zombie67> very out of date

23:32 <PovAddict> aww

23:32 <zombie67> I know

23:33 <zombie67> I will update it about the same time you issue new POV work!

23:33 <PovAddict> v.v

23:33 <zombie67> am i the only one that has to re-log into the FreeHAL message board every time I go there??

23:34 <zombie67> jasong2, just scan all the major team web sites

23:34 <jasong2> That project is weird, it's supposed to translate stuff, right?

23:34 <jasong2> If that's true, why can't it translate the forum posts?

23:34 <zombie67> frankly, I have NO idea what they do

23:34 <jasong2> Or am I wrong?

23:34 <PovAddict> jasong2: I thought about that (non-automated though)

23:34 <zombie67> all I know is, I got my 100k.  ;)

23:35 <zombie67> brb

23:35 <PovAddict> a multilanguage forum, where users can contribute translating the posts and get credits for that (a la stardust)

23:35 <PovAddict> but I was half-asleep when I had that idea

23:37 <zombie67> jasong2, here is a good place to watch

23:39 <zombie67> just a sec

23:40 <zombie67>

23:40 <Romulus> Title: Tutta55's Lair (at

23:42 <zombie67> my first boinc points are from feb 2005.  In Jan 2008, I hit 10,000,000.  In october 2008, I am already past 22M.  Quite a ramp!

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