00:02 <zombie67> ugh. more windows updates that require reboot.
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00:16 <zombie67> tank_master?
00:16 <Romulus> I guess tank_master is now, zombie67
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01:14 <quail> schweet I got my gps today and it works great :-)
01:18 <Tank_Master> nice
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01:47 * zombie67 is discovering The Killers
01:48 <zombie67> Why has no one told me about them?? I must blame someone!
01:48 <Tank_Master> ?
01:49 <zombie67> Mr. Brightside is freakin' awesome
01:49 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - The Killers - Mr. Brightside (at www.youtube.com)
01:50 <zombie67> video is C-, but the song is A+
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01:52 <Tank_Master> think I have heard the song beofre
01:52 <Tank_Master> on the alternitive station
01:53 <zombie67> that was from their first (of 3 or 4) album
01:53 <zombie67> so it's not new
01:53 <zombie67> and THAT is the problem
01:53 <Tank_Master> :P
01:53 <zombie67> I was kept out of the loop, damnit!
01:55 <zombie67> clearly not MY fault
01:55 <zombie67> ;)
01:55 <Tank_Master> lol
01:55 <zombie67> TM, we need to talk about my PD and X2 boxen
01:56 <Tank_Master> pk...
01:56 <Tank_Master> ok*
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01:56 <zombie67> i'm in a similar place where i was before
01:56 <zombie67> I can't justify running them
01:56 <Tank_Master> right
01:56 <zombie67> BUT
01:57 <zombie67> I can't just give them away
01:57 <zombie67> they have 2gb
01:57 <Tank_Master> you can probably sell them on creg's list
01:57 <zombie67> and are top end processors for their gen
01:57 <zombie67> so this is why we need to talk
01:58 <zombie67> I am thinking of a deal where I give them to you, you sell them, we share the profit
01:58 <Tank_Master> I could do that
01:58 <zombie67> okay
01:59 <Tank_Master> shiping is about $30-40 per comp though
01:59 <zombie67> can you limit your sales range to "local"?
01:59 <Tank_Master> on creg's list, yes
02:00 <zombie67> okay, frankly, do whatever you think will yeild the best
02:00 <zombie67> yield
02:00 <Tank_Master> ill give it some though
02:01 <zombie67> anyway, I will be away until the end of November, then we can figure a way to transfer the goods
02:01 <Tank_Master> where ya goin?
02:01 <zombie67> that was sarcasm?
02:01 <Tank_Master> n what about your game?
02:01 <zombie67> huh?
02:01 <Tank_Master> you just said youll be away till nov
02:02 <zombie67> my ROAD TRIP!!!
02:02 <Tank_Master> oh, right
02:02 <Tank_Master> duh :P
02:02 <zombie67> heh
02:03 <zombie67> anyway, after that, maybe early Dec, we can meet half way or something
02:03 <zombie67> I like driving
02:03 <Tank_Master> ok
02:04 <zombie67> sweet. I hate the buying/selling part
02:04 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:06 <zombie67> what's this about dr dan buying a cray?
02:06 <Tank_Master> :)
02:06 <Tank_Master> bragging rights
02:07 <Tank_Master> its one of the new "affordable" cray servers thats a joint efferet between ms and cray
02:07 <Tank_Master> costs *only* 5k or so
02:07 <zombie67> but he said he was selling off his stuff...but no liks??
02:07 <Tank_Master> or something like that
02:07 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:07 <zombie67> $5k is not that much
02:08 <zombie67> figure a 4x 7xxx intel box
02:08 <Tank_Master> dont think he;s quite ready to sell yet, but I dunno
02:09 <zombie67> seriously though, the way to do it is to wait for the return of the HT intle chips
02:10 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:10 <Tank_Master> I am
02:10 <zombie67> any SERIOUS investment before that is a waste
02:11 <zombie67> oh, I am about to announce a harpertown product...
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02:20 <Tank_Master> a what?
02:21 <Romulus> Title: Xeon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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02:26 <zombie67> Sun bought Cray, then sold off the ugly portion to SGI
02:27 <Tank_Master> ahh
02:27 <Tank_Master> :P
02:27 <zombie67> or the reverse
02:27 <Tank_Master> so cray is no more?
02:27 <Tank_Master> bummer
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02:28 <zombie67> Cray Research merged with Silicon Graphics (SGI) in February 1996. At the time the industry was highly critical of the move, noting that there was little overlap between the two companies in terms of market or technology. Founder Seymour Cray was killed in a traffic accident later that year.
02:28 <zombie67> SGI immediately sold off the Superservers business to Sun, who quickly turned the UltraSPARC-based Starfire project then under development into the extremely successful Enterprise 10000 range of servers.
02:29 <zombie67> ;)
02:29 <zombie67> brb
02:29 <Tank_Master> huh, I got almost 30k points yesterday, and I didnt more in the overall position
02:31 <DerMeister> 30k... It would take me almost a year to get this much credits -.-
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02:31 <Tank_Master> heh
02:31 <Tank_Master> was ramsey backlog
02:31 <zombie67> back
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02:32 <zombie67> back
02:32 <zombie67> yeah, I quit focusing on Ramsey after 1M
02:32 <zombie67> but I have since made 200k
02:33 <zombie67> nick has done everything right
02:33 <zombie67> including opening the source
02:33 <zombie67> the problem is DA
02:33 <Tank_Master> yeah, and astive on the boards and here to
02:33 <Tank_Master> DA?
02:33 <Romulus> Somebody said DA is a pain, Tank_Master
02:34 <zombie67> the whole credit equality is F'ing up the whole point of BOINC
02:34 <zombie67> David Anderson
02:34 <Tank_Master> ahh, yeah
02:34 <zombie67> and his holy crusade
02:34 <Tank_Master> "My way is the right way"
02:35 <zombie67> the TRVTH is that cross-project credit equality is impossible
02:35 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:35 <Tank_Master> with some being more effecent than other, some haveing different (and better preformaning) apps then others...
02:36 <zombie67> and the credit "communists" are actually ruining BOINC
02:36 <Tank_Master> and different comps performing differently
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02:36 <zombie67> 1) they are running off new projects like Ramsey
02:36 <zombie67> just too much hassle
02:37 <zombie67> 2) they are DISCOURAGING optomizing
02:38 <zombie67> that just HURTS the science
02:39 <Tank_Master> yep
02:40 <Tank_Master> anywho, I g2g up early
02:40 <Tank_Master> so ill bbl
02:40 <zombie67> gn
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02:54 <zombie67> hi nick
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03:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
03:49 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Much cooler with lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;
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04:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx Dayton, OH
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04:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
04:08 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: clear. Lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;
04:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140
04:09 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 68.1°F / 20.1°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy until late afternoon...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered showers early. Highs in the lower 60s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. (1 more message)
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06:28 <hawmps> holy hackfest, Batman..
06:31 <hawmps> ip kills >> 184.108.40.206
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07:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> 220.127.116.11 o-sporked
07:17 * CoderOnTheRoad spreads around the wealth
07:18 * efc3 puts out hand
07:26 * hawmps runs and hides
07:30 <CoderOnTheRoad> we'll all be poor together, comrade
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07:36 <efc3> From each, according to his means. To each, according to his needs.
07:36 <CoderOnTheRoad> no workie, no eatie
07:39 <CoderOnTheRoad> John 12:8 "For the poor always ye have with you" - especially if we make everyone so
07:40 <CoderOnTheRoad> speaking of making oneself poor: http://dvice.com/archives/2008/10/battlestar_gala.php
07:42 <KathrynM> evenin' CoderOnTheRoad
07:44 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello KathrynM
07:44 <CoderOnTheRoad> ouch!
07:45 <CoderOnTheRoad> okay, Mickey says hello too
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07:45 * CoderOnTheRoad glares at the Mouse
07:45 <KathrynM> got bit?
07:47 <KathrynM> darn it. this is really annoying. digikam used to start when I plugged my camera in. No more. I have to start it by hand and then tell it to import from my camera. Just another annoyance in F9.
07:48 <desti> autostart is teh evil
07:49 * CoderOnTheRoad looks at his hotel bill
07:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> yeah, I'd say I got bit
07:50 <CoderOnTheRoad> no paramed charges, so I guess I'm OK
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08:00 <JoeThePlumber> heh
08:01 <JoeThePlumber> anybody need some money?
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08:05 <hawmps> Obomber seems really good at spreading the S**T around
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08:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> my kind of plumber
08:27 <CoderOnTheRoad> bb after a shower
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09:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> Joe Biden: This election is all about three little letters: JOBS
10:00 <PovAddict> oh great, they can't even count...
10:01 <PovAddict> organizational hierarchies are like septic tanks... the really big chunks always get to the top
10:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> leaving the room in 50 minutes
10:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> checkout is 11:00
10:12 <Tank_Master> hf
10:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> then the long slo mo movement towards home begins
10:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm glad I was able to fix the DSL in the room =)
10:16 <Tank_Master> lol
10:16 <Tank_Master> you break it?
10:16 <ELGono> lol don
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10:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey ELGono
10:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> no -it was pre-broken for me
10:21 <ELGono> lol
10:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> one of new Disney attractions for geeks
10:21 <ELGono> the vpn client at uni disconnects me every 10mins
10:21 <ELGono> this is driving me nutz
10:22 <CoderOnTheRoad> your room comes with 3 tech puzzles for you to figure out
10:22 <ELGono> you in a hotel room always reminds me of that lecture on irda-hacking
10:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> someone had completely unwired the DSL router
10:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> I had to plug everything in and make it work
10:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> not hard, just annoying
10:23 <ELGono> ;)
10:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> and not something I was willing to wait for someone else to do when I could do it
10:24 <ELGono> very polite
10:25 <ELGono> well dudes, brb laterz
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10:33 <CoderOnTheRoad> I guess I shutterdown and start making our way towards the lobby
10:34 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya from the home front
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10:35 <Tank_Master> gl?
10:41 <PovAddict> what the hell? I'm trying out WSUS on a virtual machine... seems to take ages to do anything, with SQL Server eating lots and lots of CPU
10:41 <PovAddict> given the amount of data I *think* it's handling,, SQLite would be faster than that... :)
10:47 <Tank_Master> try sgl server 2008 express?
10:51 <PovAddict> I don't even know what version is installed, it was bundled with WSUS (installed unless you already have a SQL server)
10:57 <PovAddict> now SQL server is about to fill up the virtual machine memory, so it will start swapping like hell (and process is at 55%, the missing 45% will take forever and a day if it starts swapping)
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11:16 <KathrynM> PovAddict, ping
11:17 <PovAddict> pong
11:17 <KathrynM> let me pastebin something for you and tell me if I'm crazy.
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11:18 <PovAddict> well, we all know you are; but go ahead with the paste
11:18 <KathrynM> very funny
11:18 <PovAddict> *hides under his desk*
11:18 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
11:18 <KathrynM> you better hide
11:18 <KathrynM> yestefday I made kids copy the dictionary
11:21 <PovAddict> I really doubt boinc could mess up PAM
11:21 <KathrynM> I do too...
11:21 <KathrynM> I asked how he made the jump to blaming BOINC (in nicer terms, of course)
11:22 <KathrynM> Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious
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12:51 <_Danilo_> hi
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13:08 <hawmps> 'lo Dan
13:14 <desti> seti br0ken again
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15:51 <xcamel> 'lo
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16:30 <xcamel> &wx 12074
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16:34 <xcamel> *more
16:34 <xcamel> &more
16:34 <Romulus> xcamel: frost after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;
16:35 <xcamel> gonna get mighty chilly
16:39 <wdsmia_w> &wx 92807
16:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 87.9°F / 31.1°C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 55 to 65. Light winds.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 74 to 79 near the coast to 84 to 89 inland. Light winds.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 56 to 63. Light winds.;
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16:45 <xcamel> oh that kalifornicatia feeling...
16:48 <wdsmia_w> I will be there Sunday
16:50 <wdsmia_w> just about time to call it a week
16:50 <wdsmia_w> bbl
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17:03 <xcamel> The price for crude oil produced by the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) has fallen below $70, the group said Thursday.One barrel (159 litres) of OPEC crude stood at $68.58 Wednesday, $4.91 lower than $73.49 on the previous day.
17:03 <xcamel> HA!
17:04 <FreeLarry> humm i found out ime works with the normal ms wordpad ;) now i only have to match symbols up
17:05 <FreeLarry> well about time oil came down to a more reasonable level - but unfortunately the damage is already done
17:05 <FreeLarry> at least 2 yrs for prices to stabalize thruout economy
17:05 <FreeLarry> tca time for commute
17:05 <PovAddict> the IME is OS-wide
17:05 <PovAddict> should work anywhere
17:06 <FreeLarry> well PovAddict - some of us are more like granite boulders when it comes to accepting new ideas ;)
17:06 <PovAddict> I personally never used an IME, since I don't know any language that uses one :)
17:06 <PovAddict> well...
17:06 <FreeLarry> couldn't get it to work on this machine but the other i have set to boot on japanese
17:07 <FreeLarry> it works on that one
17:07 *** jasong2 is now known as joetheplumber1
17:08 * FreeLarry to bad i cant remember anything about the symbols as i look at them
17:08 <xcamel> Larry... are they on serious drugs up your way?
17:08 <FreeLarry> very lots of purple lights
17:09 <xcamel> KIRO-TV >> 24,000 Felons Getting Ballots, Despite Eligibility Questions (WA State)
17:09 <FreeLarry> need to type graphic text into a text editor for translator to work
17:10 <FreeLarry> ahh yes the dems are at it again - but a little background - those felons are mostly misterminer crimes but the felons still haven't worked off all conditions to get voting rights back
17:10 <FreeLarry> ie fines restitution and biggy court costs
17:10 *** joetheplumber1 is now known as jasong
17:11 <FreeLarry> &bye all
17:11 <Romulus> later ace
17:11 <xcamel> a misdemeanor is a misdemeanor, and will not cost you your right to vote. A felony however does, and should.
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17:22 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:24 <PovAddict> <Archie> thanks to opera for the wii, i can now watch youtube on my tv
17:24 <PovAddict> <Archie> we have gone full circle
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17:35 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
17:35 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
17:36 <wdsmia> did you see this one http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_fe_st/suing_god_3
17:37 <xcamel> yeah.. morons.
17:37 <wdsmia> yep
17:37 <xcamel> Glenn Beck joins Fox News (It's Official)
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17:43 <wdsmia> looks like its offical ACORN is nuts
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18:15 <xcamel> back again..
18:19 <xcamel> was that the 'transgender cut' ???
18:28 <xcamel> Acorn, is negotiating to sever all ties with its founder, whose brother embezzled almost $1 million from the group.
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19:19 <xcamel> boodah...boodah
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19:32 <xcamel> 'lo big
19:33 <bigt0242000> hey xcamel
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20:37 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Obama Mocks Joe the Plumber, Crowd Laughs (at www.youtube.com)
20:37 <PovAddict> who is this joe the plumber I keep hearing about?
20:38 <xcamel> the guy who exposed obomber as a pure socialist.
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20:55 <PovAddict> video memory corrupted again, restarting compiz again
21:01 <xcamel> stop showing it porn...
21:02 <efc> Have we been informed by the media who won?
21:04 <PovAddict> when I go to Expo mode (showing all four desktops at once), the desktop backgrounds show corrupted
21:04 <PovAddict> like random stuff from memory
21:05 <efc> Its been a while since I saw that.
21:06 <PovAddict> the problem is with the the half-size background images shown there (I *think* the backgrounds are in mipmap textures, and the low LOD versions get corrupted for some strange reason)
21:06 <PovAddict> seems to start happening after a user switch
21:22 <efc> I never watch hell's kitchen but he's really tearing this plae apart for sanitation..
21:22 <MTughan> efc: Hell's Kitchen or Kitchen Nightmares?
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21:23 <efc> Its pretty horrible.. wonder how the ones I eat at are
21:27 <efc> they have pretty good health inspectors in this county though.
21:47 * xcamel yawns
21:52 <PovAddict> wtf
21:52 <PovAddict> people already making stupid pictures about the plumber?
21:52 <PovAddict> some people have too much time to waste
21:52 <PovAddict> (and a probably-illegal copy of Photoshop)
21:53 * efc agrees and runs around making chicken noises
21:53 <xcamel> those in AR could not possibly understand...
21:54 <xcamel> off with me anyway...
21:54 <efc> night xcamel
21:55 <PovAddict> instead of saying why people should vote some candidate, it seems to be all about making fun of the other candidate
21:56 <xcamel> that's how it works here - talk all they want - if their lips are moving - they're lying.
21:56 <MTughan> Hey, I did see an Obama ad today that didn't mention or poke at McBain at all today.
21:57 <MTughan> McCain*
21:57 <MTughan> Messed it up with another person I know...
21:57 <efc> The name is so unfortunate.. the most awkward since Stalin von Hitler ran a few years back
21:58 <MTughan> Palin, Obama, or McCain?
21:58 <PovAddict> MTughan: I was actually referring not to the official campaigns, but to, say, images people share on IRC
21:59 <efc> Pov: You probably don't get the political email like we do..
22:00 <efc> Every rumor and lie gets sent out as fact, to be believed by people who already didn't like candidate X
22:01 <PovAddict> so it doesn't help move votes in either direction
22:01 <efc> I doubt it. Might move some fence-sitters.
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22:12 <PovAddict> oh, I forgot to check if my cron script was working correctly
22:12 <PovAddict> looks like it is; I have 5 dumps of E@H stats
22:14 <PovAddict> and I'm already wasting 68MB on them \o/
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22:27 <PovAddict> I'm thinking I should parse the XMLs into a binary format (like a database)... they'll use too much space even compressed if I keep archiving
22:32 <efc> there are some special XML archiving utilities
22:32 <efc> huffman coding works well on it
22:33 <PovAddict> I wouldn't bother with those... I'd do my own code specifically for this XML format
22:33 <PovAddict> <create_time>1097843757</create_time> can be stored in four bytes (the integer in binary)
22:34 <PovAddict> <country>United States</country> can be stored in one or two bytes (offset in a lookup table of countries)
22:35 <PovAddict> not to mention I'd save *lots* if I do delta encoding of the whole file with the one from 12 hours before
22:37 <jasong2> I bet most people woudn't need more than a Gig of space if EVERYTHING could use lookup tables. If you only needed one central copy of each windows OS, that right there would probably save petabytes of space. ;)
22:38 <PovAddict> Unix is designed to do that :)
22:38 <PovAddict> network-mount /usr :)
22:38 <jasong2> yeah, if I can manage to save up the money, I'm thinking about building an Atom-based crunching farm
22:39 <jasong2> So, I need to be studying all that stuff sometime soon
22:39 <PovAddict> and turns out that was the original purpose of /usr/local
22:39 <PovAddict> being "local" to that machine
22:39 <PovAddict> while /usr isn't
22:41 <PovAddict> apparently 81% of Einstein users are inactive
22:42 <PovAddict> so if I just store the users that got credit since the last stats dump, I'd save loads of space
22:42 <PovAddict> like incremental backups :)
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22:44 <jasong2> true
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22:44 <PovAddict> the five dumps I have, once uncompressed, are 329MB (!)
22:44 <PovAddict> (the original download is gzipped)
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