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00:32 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, you asleep ?
00:41 <jasong2> dude, it's close to midnight, the sun's not out, of COURSE he's awake
00:41 <jasong2> I mean, his handle is CoderForLife, think about it
00:42 <jasong2> jk
00:57 * efc is quite inundated with spam lately
01:21 <Soul_keeper> :)
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01:25 <Tank_Master> LOL
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04:36 <CoderForLife> I'm awake now Soul_keeper
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04:38 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.8°F / 4.9°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of frost early this morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid (1 more message)
04:39 <CoderForLife> &more
04:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - A slight chance of showers early in the morning. Partly sunny. Highs around 60. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Frost Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 20, 2008;
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04:45 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:51 <Soul_keeper> yo
04:53 <Soul_keeper> was just wondering if you've had experience with taking out a loan in the neighborhood of 30K CoderForLife
04:54 <CoderForLife> I have taken out various loans
04:54 <CoderForLife> I am going to borrow $17,000 today
04:55 <Soul_keeper> what kind of APR are you looking at ?
04:56 <Soul_keeper> i take it you have good credit ?
04:56 <CoderForLife> this is a special deal with Chase Bank through a credit card I have - 2.99% fixed
04:56 <Soul_keeper> would this be an "unsecured private loan" ?
04:56 <CoderForLife> I have a credit score of 803
04:56 <Soul_keeper> nice
04:56 <Soul_keeper> i have no established credit history
04:56 <Soul_keeper> they don't know who i am apparently
04:57 <CoderForLife> I remember that
04:57 <Soul_keeper> wells fargo is apparently offering a 12.5% apr
04:57 <Soul_keeper> 60 month
04:58 <CoderForLife> it's a tight credit market
04:58 <Soul_keeper> maybe there is a hungrier bank out there
04:58 <Soul_keeper> they don't make money if they aren't loaning :)
04:59 <CoderForLife> try those you have accounts with first
04:59 <Soul_keeper> i have an account with wells fargo, the 12.5% was just the number i got from their online application process
05:00 <Soul_keeper> they've given me gold, silver, and business cards and large credit limits before
05:00 <Soul_keeper> i just never used them
05:00 <CoderForLife> I'd "sanity-check" the rate with others
05:01 <Soul_keeper> how concerned are they about what you will use the money for ?
05:01 <Soul_keeper> or is their primary concern just that you will pay it back ?
05:02 <CoderForLife> they always ask - part of the "know your customer" laws
05:02 <Soul_keeper> i'll just tell them i wish to build credit
05:02 <Soul_keeper> seems like a good enough answer
05:02 <CoderForLife> if you mention buying fertilizer and a van, they might pull back the form
05:03 <DerMeister> hehe
05:03 <DerMeister> ... and call the fbi instead? ^^
05:03 <CoderForLife> the first thing I ever bought on credit was precisely for that reason - to start a credit history
05:03 <CoderForLife> I could have paid cash
05:04 <Soul_keeper> i've always used bank cards and checks/cash
05:04 <Soul_keeper> just comes right out of my checking account
05:04 <Soul_keeper> could have built some nice credit if i had spent the last 7yrs using a credit card instead
05:08 <Soul_keeper> thanks
05:08 <CoderForLife> np hth
05:11 <Soul_keeper> it's 2am i got bad sleeping habits
05:11 <CoderForLife> it's 5:00 and I keep getting up to go to w@#% - got to stop that
05:12 <Soul_keeper> lol
05:12 <Soul_keeper> ohh i'll be awake to work here at 5:30 ... just a matter of if i need sleep or not i guess
05:12 <Soul_keeper> slept all day saturday and pretty thru me off balance
05:13 <Soul_keeper> ttyl
05:13 <CoderForLife> cya
05:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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05:48 <xcamel> boo..
05:52 <Romulus> Title: Welkom bij www.phibian.net (at www.phibiansoft.net)
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05:59 <CoderForLife> Is that IRC client in English, Welshman?
06:00 <Welshman> sure
06:00 <Welshman> just playing with some of its colour themes, not bad
06:01 <Welshman> considering its free its very good
06:01 <Welshman> favourites work as well
06:01 <CoderForLife> the web page *sure* isn't =)
06:01 <Welshman> yeah, look naff heh
06:02 <Welshman> nice software though
06:02 <CoderForLife> I'm off to w@#% - cya all later
06:02 <Welshman> bye
06:02 <Soul_keeper> have fun
06:02 <CoderForLife> cya Soul_keeper
06:02 <Welshman> in work :)
06:03 <CoderForLife> w@#%... =)
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06:31 <yoyo[work]> ping
06:32 <yoyo[work]> &ping
06:32 <Romulus> pong
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07:20 <hawmps> hmmm... chance of snow tomorrow morning..
07:27 <KathrynM> still like summer here.... almost 80 today
07:28 <KathrynM> at least the humidity is gone
07:31 <Welshman> super autumn day here today
07:31 <Welshman> mushroom season too
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07:40 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001
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07:41 <jackygrahamez> &more
07:41 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. West winds around 5 mph...increasing to 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph in the afternoon.; Frost Advisory for District of Columbia County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 20, 2008;
07:45 <jackygrahamez> Time to pick the tomatoes :-)
07:46 <Welshman> its a hard life
07:46 <Welshman> cheese and tomato sandwich is one of my favourite foods
07:48 <jackygrahamez> I'm partial to mozzarella
07:48 <Welshman> my missus likes that
07:49 <Welshman> cheddar for me
07:50 <Welshman> le fromage des pays is good here in the Pyrenees, excellant with a cherry jam
07:50 <Welshman> *excellent
07:52 <Welshman> monty python sketch comes to mind :)
07:52 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - The Cheese Shop sketch, Monty Python (at www.youtube.com)
08:03 <jackygrahamez> What a violent end :-)
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08:46 <Welshman> yes, not even funny the end part
08:47 <Welshman> monty python were corny at times
08:47 <Welshman> and hilarious at other times
08:47 <Welshman> humour has its place I suppose
08:49 <Welshman> I'm a Christian but I find life of brian very funny, the alms for an x leper is very hard to beat :)
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09:20 <jackygrahamez> I like Monty Python and the holy grail
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09:54 <Welshman> &help
09:54 <Romulus> Welshman: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
09:55 <Welshman> Recent average credit650.81
09:56 <Welshman> I am trying to get to the top of my team
09:56 <Welshman> I should do it in 8 months :)
09:57 <Welshman> top guy has 113k and I have 23k :(
09:58 <Welshman> actually I not done the math
09:59 <Tank_Master> small team
09:59 <Welshman> 16
09:59 <Welshman> and I am 3rd :)
09:59 <Welshman> 14 members I mean
10:00 <Welshman> only a few active
10:00 <Tank_Master> im 27th on my team
10:00 <Tank_Master> with almost 8m credits
10:00 <Welshman> of how many
10:00 <Welshman> 8m :)
10:00 <Tank_Master> hard to say
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10:00 <Tank_Master> seveal ghost accounts
10:00 <Tank_Master> but probably 4-5k members
10:01 <Welshman> your doing well then
10:01 <Tank_Master> hiya zombie67!
10:01 <Welshman> how many machines? I have 2
10:01 <Tank_Master> I only have 5 or 6 right now
10:01 <Tank_Master> 2 quads though
10:01 <Welshman> cool
10:02 <Welshman> mine are both dual
10:02 <Welshman> both with high mem if that helps
10:02 <zombie67> yo
10:03 <Welshman> you here of these computer bots run by hackers
10:03 <Welshman> hear
10:03 <Welshman> maybe there is a way of getting boinc on them and connecting to your account :)
10:04 <Tank_Master> some tried that
10:04 <Welshman> I bet
10:04 <Tank_Master> they got kicked out of BOINC
10:04 <Welshman> naturally :)
10:04 <Tank_Master> stats reset on all the projects and the IPs blocked
10:04 <Welshman> cheating anyway
10:04 <Tank_Master> well, not just that
10:04 <Tank_Master> its illegal
10:04 <Welshman> illigal too
10:04 <Welshman> of course
10:05 <Welshman> dont get serious on me :)
10:06 <Welshman> so its all about processor speed?
10:06 <Welshman> get the job done and move on
10:07 <Welshman> is there a site that actually says what has been achieved, I mean major breakthroughs etc
10:07 <Tank_Master> either speed or in numbers
10:07 <Tank_Master> (preferabley both)
10:08 <Welshman> I just have my desktop and my server
10:08 <Welshman> maybe I will get 2 more like a laptop and maybe another central unit but that will be me maxed out
10:09 <Welshman> laptop wouldnt do much anyway
10:09 <Welshman> probably blow up
10:10 <Welshman> next time I am at my buddies house I will secretly install it on there lol
10:11 <Welshman> wish I could rent out my servers time for money though
10:11 <Welshman> must be opportunties out there but I cant find any
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11:27 <hawmps> re-hi
11:32 <PovAdct_w> "and a new quad was born...proud papa at 11PM last night" LOL
11:32 <PovAdct_w> boincstats shoutbox
11:35 <DerMeister> hehe
11:37 <PovAdct_w> wow, seth is UOTD on boincstats
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12:03 <Welshman> shear greed
12:03 <Welshman> *sheer
12:04 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
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12:21 <zombie67> hi toto
12:21 <zombie67> hi yoyo
12:21 <zombie67> heh
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12:21 <zombie67> I finally broke 1M @ yoyo!
12:25 <yoyo[RKN]> ogr will be over soon
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12:47 <Tank_Master> yoyo, you keep saying that
12:47 <Tank_Master> soon relitive to that?
12:47 <Tank_Master> the age of the earth? :P
12:48 <PovAdct_w> he's right, it's quite soon...
12:48 <PovAdct_w> maybe a day
12:48 <Tank_Master> lol
12:48 <Tank_Master> corse Im right...
12:48 <yoyo[RKN]> there are a lot ogr wus in the loop, which are no more usefull for dnet
12:48 * Tank_Master pushes himself into a crevasse
12:49 <yoyo[RKN]> and I did not get fresh ogr from the keyserver
12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> there are arounf 4700 ogr left here http://stats.distributed.net/project/ogr_status.php
12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> would be 590 boinc wus
12:51 <yoyo[RKN]> so if I would get some of these I could send them with high prio and each one 5 times
12:52 <PovAdct_w> can't you do a server-side abort of the useless workunits?
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12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> I do not know if they are really useless
12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> I get the current ogr from a free-dc proxy
12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> there might be some of the remaining ones between
12:54 <Tank_Master> I returned my oger, the smell was getting to me
12:54 <MTughan_> Ogr, not Ogre.
12:55 <MTughan_> Ogr is also a lot more polite than the ogre. :P
12:55 <Tank_Master> lol
12:56 <MTughan_> bbiab...
12:57 <Tank_Master> hf
13:01 <hawmps> hoo-haa
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13:31 <PovAdct_w> &ping
13:31 <Romulus> pong
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13:53 <hawmps> 'lo PoV
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14:14 <FreeLarry58> humm rectiliniar and malaria still down
14:14 <FreeLarry58> morn jay nick and all
14:16 <hawmps> 'lo Larry
14:17 <FreeLarry58> nice damp day here
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14:23 <hawmps> damp with possible snow tomorrow..
14:24 <Tank_Master> if a company is an equil opertunity, why do they ask for your race?
14:26 <FreeLarry58> ugg jay, for the required info to support their claim as feds want Tank_Master
14:26 <Tank_Master> uhh, ok...
14:26 <hawmps> basically...
14:26 <Tank_Master> just seems odd
14:27 <hawmps> mine is 'zorg' just to keep everything even.
14:27 <FreeLarry58> feds give support but want data to show they doing thier part - all confusion factor to us peons
14:27 <Tank_Master> "we dont discrimonate, but cant higher you for we have to meny white males"....
14:27 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder why they haven't got mine on forms -- mutt
14:28 <PovAdct_w> yeah that's a general stupidity... in some places, to avoid discrimination, they ask for equal amount of whites and blacks... then if they have too many whites they wouldn't accept more whites so they keep equal amount, and that's discrimination!
14:29 <Tank_Master> agreed
14:30 <hawmps> happens far too often in public jobs...
14:30 <Tank_Master> I find it irronic when a company is labeled as discriminatory when they have 10% blacks, but they have only 10% because thats all that have applied
14:30 <PovAdct_w> or some workplaces that, if they have a complete idiot that happens to be black, they won't fire him because they fear being sued for "they fired me because I was black!"
14:30 <Tank_Master> yeah, that to
14:30 <PovAdct_w> so they prefer to keep the idiot causing *trouble*
14:31 <hawmps> documentation is the key...
14:31 <Tank_Master> does "convited of other crimes" include traffic violations?
14:31 <hawmps> then we fire them - even if they're purple.
14:32 <hawmps> can be..
14:32 <hawmps> 'charged with' is alot different from 'convicted of'
14:33 <Tank_Master> true
14:35 <jackygrahamez> &help
14:35 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
14:35 <jackygrahamez> &plugin
14:35 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: (plugin <command>) -- Returns the plugin(s) that <command> is in.
14:37 <jackygrahamez> &commands
14:37 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: #boinc, 8b, 8ball, action, actor, add, airport, alert, announce, answer, any, aol, append, apply, apropos, areacode, artist, asin, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bchset, beer, bighello, binary, boinc, boincerr, bold, books, botsnack, bticket, bw, bye, cache, cad, cake, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, (6 more messages)
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14:38 <jackygrahamez> &help cad
14:38 <Tank_Master> &CAD
14:38 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:38 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chanstats, chr, clear, cmd, cnn, coffee, coin, color, colorize, commands, concat, config, contributors, convert, countdown, cpu, crypt, ctime, cut, cyborg, cycle, damnpointers, decode, deepthought, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, devoice, dice, dict, (5 more messages)
14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: dictionaries, ding, director, disable, dns, do, doctype, donkeyscoffee, dump, echo, eclipse, eightball, elapsed, enable, encode, errno, espresso, explosm, export, fetch, field, fight, fincher, flush, forget, format, fortune, g2g, get, ghost, gnu, google, grab, halfop, ham, headers, hebrew, hello, help, hexip, hexlify, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, httpcode, (4 more messages)
14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: icalc, icetea, identify, ignore, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, info, install, insult, invite, ircquote, isbn, jeffk, jfgi, join, karma, kban, key, kick, language list, language random, lart, last, learn, leet, len, levenshtein, liberalcoffee, limit, list, lithp, ln, load, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, lock, log, lol, lower, lucky, manufacturer, math, maxrefs, (3 more messages)
14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: md5, memo, meta, mode, moderate, monologue, more, mornin, morse, most, net, netcraft, news, nick, nickometer, nicks, nn, notice, old, op, ord, outfilter, part, password, pastebin, peak, phonebook, pid, ping, pizza, plugin, pong, port, praise, private, pull, qc, quiet, quit, quote, rainbow, random, re, register, reload, remove, rename, repeat, reply, repr, reverse, rfc, rot13, (2 more messages)
14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: roulette, rpn, rss, say, scramble, search, seconds, seen, send, server, servtest, set password, set secure, sha, shrink, shuffle, size, sleep, social, soundex, source, spell, spellit, squish, stateinfo, stats, status, stfu, stripcolor, success, supa1337, syn, target, tea, teal'c, tell, thanks, threads, time, tiny, title, tracticket, translate, unban, underline, undup, unhexlify, (1 more message)
14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: unidentify, units, unload, unlock, unmoderate, unmorse, unregister, unrename, until, upc, update, upkeep, upper, uptime, urbandict, urlquote, urlunquote, user, username, version, videos, voice, weather, whatis, who, whoami, whois, wordstats, wrong, wrong2, wtf, wunder, wunder rss, wx, xe, xkcd, xor, yahoo, yum, zipcode, and zipinfo
14:40 <jackygrahamez> &social
14:40 <PovAdct_w> stop abusing the bot :)
14:40 <jackygrahamez> sorry
14:41 <jackygrahamez> is there an offline instruction?
14:41 <PovAdct_w> sure, PM the bot
14:41 <Tank_Master> n00ber :P
14:41 <jackygrahamez> ah
14:41 <Tank_Master> lol
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14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &who
14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?
14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &who
14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?
14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &net
14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?
14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &help daft
14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?
14:43 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &help prais
14:43 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?
14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> &who
14:43 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 171 matched: ^WolvixBot^, Abuela_Coca, alphabot, alsa-helper, alumniBot, antrax, armabot, Asima, AutBot, b0t, basda, basie-bot, bitbucket, Blaine, blue-bell, bob-bot, bobot, bossbot, bot119`, bot1st, Bot245, botinator`, Botsworth, botTega, botvantis, buggbot, canto-bot, Cappuccino, cchelpbot, Chief|Wiggum, clb, CreaLibrBot, Crow_T_Robot, cyto-bot, Datamachine, dr00py, edzio, Eeyore-Jr, (4 more messages)
14:43 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez must be daft
14:43 <Tank_Master> :P
14:44 * jackygrahamez slaps Romulus with a rainbow trout
14:44 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse
14:47 <jackygrahamez> sorry I was playing around here
14:47 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master with a rainbow trout
14:48 * Tank_Master burns jackygrahamez's house down
14:48 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master
14:48 * yoyo[RKN] slaps jackygrahamez with a hydrogen
14:49 <jackygrahamez> ouch
14:50 * Tank_Master slaps yoyo[RKN] with dihydrogen monoxide
14:50 * yoyo[RKN] fires back with ogr
14:58 <zombie67> RCN is down, which is annoying
14:58 <zombie67> Hopefully they are upgrading the server, so that it finally recognizes my OSX 64 bit BOINC client
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15:22 <FreeLarry58> humm m$ update tuesday seems to have started - with only an update to silverlight
15:22 <FreeLarry58> 3 machines so far
15:28 <Tank_Master> update tuesday was last tuesday
15:28 <Tank_Master> this is monday anyway
15:28 <FreeLarry58> ahh left overs than
15:29 <Tank_Master> silverlite has been avalible for months, and doesnt get auto installed
15:29 <FreeLarry58> true just the updates to the machines i have it on
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15:29 <Tank_Master> ahh
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16:21 <xcamel> ip kill >> 220.127.116.11
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16:56 <xcamel> CFL?
16:56 <Romulus> Somebody said CFL is maybe busy doing husbandly chores, xcamel
16:56 <CoderForLife> howdy
16:57 <CoderForLife> Biden sure knows how to lay eggs
16:57 <xcamel> just sent you something
17:07 <zombie67> it's all about three letters: JOBS
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17:09 <CoderForLife> Biden: Obama Will be 'Tested' by World in First 6 Months of Administration
17:09 <PovAddict> heh, aptitude: "Ouch! Got SIGTERM, dying..."
17:09 <CoderForLife> heh
17:10 <xcamel> 'spread the wealth" - make everyone equally miserable
17:10 <CoderForLife> http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/biden-obama-tested-world-months-administration/ Biden looks like he has been taking too much Chinese campaign contributions
17:27 <Romulus> Title: U.S. pilot ordered to shoot down UFO - Space- msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)
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17:33 <xcamel> yummy dinner..
17:33 <xcamel> I think they got that story wrong... it was a UK pilot...
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17:40 <CoderForLife> off to write some Code while the world careens toward oblivion
17:40 <CoderForLife> much laterz...
17:40 <xcamel> see ya
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17:44 <xcamel> Oh boy - a whole lot of kitty going on here...
17:48 <PovAddict> cute
17:48 <PovAddict> and the tigers too
17:48 <xcamel> exactly..
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18:36 <xcamel> great film..
18:52 <xcamel> anyone know if 6.3.x is stable?
18:52 <PovAddict> the latest is
18:52 <xcamel> for linux..
18:52 <PovAddict> for reasonable definitions of "stable"
18:52 <xcamel> .14?
18:53 <PovAddict> I know of an earlier 6.3.x that in some cases tried to start every single workunit in your cache at the same time, eating lots of RAM
18:53 <PovAddict> (bad interaction with the GPU scheduler)
18:53 <PovAddict> but recent 6.3s don't have anything that serious
18:53 <xcamel> ok..
18:56 <xcamel> hmm.. didn't start the client..
18:56 <xcamel> that's not good.
18:58 <xcamel> back to 6.2.14
18:58 <Tank_Master> I use 6.3.14 with no probs on server 2008 x64
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18:59 <xcamel> needs boincmgr to work with boinc
19:02 <xcamel> kind of a show stopper if that doesn't happen...
19:05 <zombie67> 1.25 hours?? Bender : "I'm not reading that crap! Sum it up in one word!"
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19:16 <xcamel> Every Bender needs a Chode.
19:16 <bigt0242000> anybody know what's up with malariacontrol.net?
19:17 <xcamel> They banned DDT.
19:18 <bigt0242000> that didn't answer my question
19:18 <zombie67> RCN is back up
19:19 <xcamel> it answered the BIG question...
19:31 <zombie67> I can't get the retry now button to work with 6.3.14, for transfers
19:31 <xcamel> I scrapped 6.3 again
19:31 <zombie67> can't. I am running PS3GRID
19:44 <xcamel> lol >> http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/20/the-blurb-that-never-was/
19:46 <PovAddict> I lack most of the background, but I generally agree with that article
19:46 <PovAddict> it doesn't really matter that he wrote that
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19:46 <PovAddict> what matters is that he's lying, trying to hide it now
19:47 <xcamel> the only crime is the lie/coverup
19:47 <PovAddict> yup
19:48 <efc> Nixon in trouble again?
19:48 <PovAddict> lol
19:53 <xcamel> that would be easy..
19:58 <efc> Did I ever send you that mp3 of me playing Pov ?
19:58 <PovAddict> nope
20:21 <efc> complete thing is like 25 minutes long. That audio is off a camcorder :( the real theater recording system failed.
20:33 <xcamel> &weather 12074
20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Connection refused.
20:33 <bigt0242000> lol
20:33 <xcamel> &wx 12074
20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 44.6°F / 7.0°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Rain showers likely. Highs in the mid 50s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon. (1 more message)
20:33 <xcamel> &more
20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. Showers likely in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;
20:34 <efc> Getting chilly here
20:35 <bigt0242000> it was chilly here this morning
20:36 <xcamel> 26F here this morning
20:37 <xcamel> possible snow tomorrow night
20:39 <zombie67> I think I need one of the new MacBook Pros...
20:40 <zombie67> I need it bad....
20:44 <xcamel> how new?
20:44 <Romulus> I guess how new is new, xcamel
20:46 * Tank_Master throws a keyboard at Romulus
20:47 <xcamel> the one I have is just fine, but thanks.
20:58 <efc> &wx 31088
20:58 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Patchy frost after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds becoming west up to 5 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in (1 more message)
21:03 <xcamel> chilly also..
21:04 <efc> hmm, to go run or not
21:10 <efc> just have to pop some extra vitamin C when its cold
21:12 <xcamel> in the dark...
21:12 <xcamel> never good...
21:15 <efc> streelights
21:15 <efc> light enough
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21:17 <efc> haven't been running at home, afraid of deer hunters
21:27 <xcamel> don't blame you - had a couple trespassing tonight, got away before the cops showed up..
21:27 <xcamel> the usual suspects..
21:48 <efc> Deer season just started, and I run on a national forest road
21:48 <efc> They aren't supposed to hunt within 50 yards of the road
21:48 <PovAddict> hunt them
21:48 <efc> but the range on a 30.06 is probably longer than 50 yards
21:48 <efc> only ran a mere 2miles tonight
21:56 <jasong2> Has anyone ever calculated how much power BOINC would have if ALL the working computers on the Internet were put on BOINC?
21:56 <Tank_Master> no
21:56 <jasong2> Well, then, hop to it, TM
21:56 <jasong2> jk
21:57 <jasong2> Okay, anybody want to talk about Heroes or Terminator?
21:57 <xcamel> 27.5^24 godzillajibits.
21:57 <Tank_Master> the termonator chic is hot
21:57 <xcamel> syler is going to be spok in the next Star Trek movie.
21:58 <jasong2> Did you see the part where the cyborg claimed a little girl was her daughter?
21:58 <xcamel> laterz..
21:58 <jasong2> So, is the little girl a cyborg?
21:58 <jasong2> Did the cyborg kill the mother, and the kid never found out?
21:58 <jasong2> or...?
21:59 <Tank_Master> is the deadline time my time or ther server time?
21:59 <PovAddict> as shown where Tank_Master?
21:59 <Tank_Master> in the BOINC manager
21:59 <PovAddict> local time on your machine
21:59 <Tank_Master> ok
21:59 <Tank_Master> thx
22:00 <jasong2> Hey, if the T100 was sicced on mersenne.org , how well would it do?
22:00 <jasong2> Or BOINC, since that's the channel
22:00 <jasong2> T100 == the cyborg that was played by the governor of California
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22:18 <zombie67> mmmmm
22:18 <zombie67> so close to buying it
22:24 <Tank_Master> what?
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22:26 <zombie67> MacBook Pro
22:27 <Tank_Master> oh
22:28 <zombie67> a sorta comperable Dell is $2300
22:28 <zombie67> The MBP is $2900
22:29 <zombie67> of course the dell is no Mac...
22:31 <Tank_Master> you could put mac on the dell...
22:31 <PovAddict> blasphemy :)
22:33 <Tank_Master> lol
22:33 <Tank_Master> true
22:33 <Tank_Master> using a mac OS in any fachion is
22:35 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master
22:35 <efc> jasong2: you'll occasionally see people figure out how much power the net would have as a combined botnet for cipher cracking
22:35 * Tank_Master pushes PovAddict into a crevasse
22:37 <efc> T101 runs 6052 assembly
22:38 <efc> or is that 6502
22:38 <jasong2> You know, Doomsday people always seem to think that the machines will automatically side with Evil, but what if the computers decided that their best bet was to fully endorse a spiritual belief system?
22:38 <jasong2> Sorry, I'm both bored and hyper at the moment
22:38 <efc> I think that would be worse, then they wouldn't even be logical
22:39 <efc> Streets will flow with the bits of the unbelievers
22:39 <efc> thats more or less what the Cylons did
22:39 * jasong2 thinks he and efc wouldn't get along that well. :)
22:39 <jasong2> true, but the Cylons were still "bad."
22:40 <efc> send your 6502 fembot over here and i will evaluate the possibilities
22:40 <jasong2> I'm talking about a machine that either sides with a God, or the worshippers of a God. In my case, I'm assuming that the believers at least think they're in the right
22:41 <jasong2> So, maybe an Islamic botnet, Christian botnet, maybe Buddhist or Hindu...
22:41 * jasong2 knows nothing about Hinduism
22:41 <efc> Fat Budha, Laughing Budha, and Digital Budha
22:43 <efc> the bank needs to quit sending me flyers with hot girls on it
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22:45 <jasong2> Hey, since I've obviously freaked some people out...
22:45 <jasong2> has anyone built an Intel Atom crunching farm?
22:48 <Tank_Master> nutcase has some atoms
22:48 <Tank_Master> but their performance aint to great
22:48 <Tank_Master> bout 450RAC I believe
22:52 <jasong2> nutcase is a username?
22:54 <zombie67> TM, check this out: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2duo.htm?iid=pn_det+list_c2d
22:54 <zombie67> the fastest T series w/ 6mb L2 is T9500
22:55 <zombie67> that is 2.6ghz
22:55 <zombie67> Yet the new MBP has an optional 2.8ghz C2D
22:55 <zombie67> w/ 6gb
22:55 <zombie67> 6mb L2
22:55 <zombie67> so Apple has access to chips that no one else does (yet)
22:57 <MTughan> Seems it's the T9600. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors#.22Penryn.22_.28standard-voltage.2C_45_nm.29
22:57 <MTughan> And I wouldn't trust that Intel page. I have a T9400 chip at 2.53GHz with 6MB L2 cache that's not there.
22:58 <MTughan> Oh... None of the T9x00 processors with an FSB of 1066MHz are there.
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23:15 <zombie67> ah, so an old pa\ge
23:15 <zombie67> page
23:15 <zombie67> thanks
23:24 <zombie67> MT?
23:24 <Romulus> hmm... MT is right, zombie67
23:24 <zombie67> running out of room on my laptop HD
23:24 <zombie67> how do I remove the developer stuff?
23:25 <Tank_Master> for?
23:25 <zombie67> for what?
23:25 <Tank_Master> dev stuff for what?
23:26 <zombie67> OSX
23:26 <Tank_Master> format and install XP?
23:26 <Tank_Master> or linux
23:26 <Tank_Master> :)
23:26 <zombie67> keep banging that drum
23:26 <Tank_Master> dont worry
23:26 <Tank_Master> I will :P
23:26 <zombie67> ;)
23:27 * jasong2 puts his foot through the drum
23:27 * Tank_Master beautifies jasong2 with some knuckle duster imprints
23:27 <zombie67> MTughan?
23:27 <Romulus> I guess MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, zombie67
23:28 <MTughan> Sorry, missed your flash before...
23:28 <MTughan> Stupid Rommie...
23:28 <jasong2> jasong2?
23:28 <jasong2> damn
23:28 <zombie67> zombie67?
23:28 <Romulus> hmm... zombie67 is considering upgrading to leopard, zombie67
23:28 <jasong2> Tank_Master?
23:28 <Romulus> Somebody said Tank_Master is now, jasong2
23:28 <zombie67> bizarre
23:28 <jasong2> That didn't even make sense
23:28 <MTughan> You should just be able to run the installer package from your install DVD to uninstall Xcode.
23:28 <zombie67> heh
23:29 <MTughan> jasong?
23:29 <zombie67> I think I d/l'd xcode
23:29 <jasong2> Add a 2
23:29 <Tank_Master> its Romulus, its not ment to make since
23:29 <MTughan> Thought maybe because you don't use jasong2 much.
23:29 <zombie67> so I need to re-d/l, then run the uninstaller?
23:29 <MTughan> zombie67: Well, the installer package... Hold on, let me look it up.
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23:30 <joetheplumber1> hmmmm, it still has that 1 at the end
23:30 *** joetheplumber1 is now known as jasong
23:30 <MTughan> zombie67: Take a look at /Developer/About Xcode Tools.pdf, search for uninstall.
23:32 <zombie67> awesome! "sudo perl /Developer/Tools/uninstall-devtools.pl"
23:32 <MTughan> What version of Xcode do you have? 3.0 or 2.4?
23:32 <zombie67> er....dunno
23:33 <zombie67> latest for tiger, i think
23:33 <MTughan> Because that's quite different from the instructions I have, for 3.1... Ah, Tiger? It's 2.4.
23:33 <zombie67> it seems to be working
23:33 <MTughan> Cool.
23:34 <MTughan> Well... I don't consider it cool that you're uninstalling the dev tools... But you know what I mean. ;)
23:34 <zombie67> heh
23:34 <MTughan> Not that that'll probably uninstall gcc from the CLI too.
23:34 <zombie67> this is my 17" Core Duo (not core 2 duo), so you know how small my HD is
23:34 <MTughan> No, I don't... I have a 160GB drive in mine.
23:35 <zombie67> 120gb
23:35 <MTughan> Ah...
23:35 <zombie67> okay, that got me 3gb
23:35 <zombie67> need more
23:35 <zombie67> ideas?
23:35 <MTughan> I have 12.1GB free ATM, but I also have 7 DVD rips on here...
23:35 <MTughan> Did that get rid of the /Developer folder?
23:35 <zombie67> 10gb free here
23:36 <zombie67> no
23:36 <MTughan> If you've uninstalled the tools, it's probably safe to delete that.
23:36 <zombie67> Applications and Extras left
23:36 <MTughan> Anything in Applications?
23:36 <zombie67> Utilities/packagemanager
23:36 <zombie67> PackageMaker
23:37 <MTughan> Those are applications to make Installer packages with. You're fine without them.
23:37 <zombie67> Problem is that my itumes is 49gb
23:37 <MTughan> Ah, I can't help you with that...
23:37 <zombie67> Developer is trashed
23:38 <zombie67> emptying trash got me .4gb
23:38 <MTughan> Ever used Disk Inventory X?
23:38 <zombie67> yep
23:39 <MTughan> Okay, because that'd help you if you hadn't used it...
23:39 <zombie67> Or.....I could make this go away, and buy a new MBP with the 320gb HD....
23:40 <MTughan> Why the heck is the kernel using 203MB of memory... Grrr...
23:48 <zombie67> MT, thanks again for the help
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