IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-10-20

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00:32 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, you asleep ?

00:41 <jasong2> dude, it's close to midnight, the sun's not out, of COURSE he's awake

00:41 <jasong2> I mean, his handle is CoderForLife, think about it

00:42 <jasong2> jk

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01:21 <Soul_keeper> :)

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01:25 <Tank_Master> LOL

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04:36 <CoderForLife> I'm awake now Soul_keeper

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04:38 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.8F / 4.9C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of frost early this morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid (1 more message)

04:39 <CoderForLife> &more

04:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - A slight chance of showers early in the morning. Partly sunny. Highs around 60. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Frost Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 20, 2008;

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04:45 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:51 <Soul_keeper> yo

04:53 <Soul_keeper> was just wondering if you've had experience with taking out a loan in the neighborhood of 30K CoderForLife

04:54 <CoderForLife> I have taken out various loans

04:54 <CoderForLife> I am going to borrow $17,000 today

04:55 <Soul_keeper> what kind of APR are you looking at ?

04:56 <Soul_keeper> i take it you have good credit ?

04:56 <CoderForLife> this is a special deal with Chase Bank through a credit card I have - 2.99% fixed

04:56 <Soul_keeper> would this be an "unsecured private loan" ?

04:56 <CoderForLife> I have a credit score of 803

04:56 <Soul_keeper> nice

04:56 <Soul_keeper> i have no established credit history

04:56 <Soul_keeper> they don't know who i am apparently

04:57 <CoderForLife> I remember that

04:57 <Soul_keeper> wells fargo is apparently offering a 12.5% apr

04:57 <Soul_keeper> 60 month

04:58 <CoderForLife> it's a tight credit market

04:58 <Soul_keeper> maybe there is a hungrier bank out there

04:58 <Soul_keeper> they don't make money if they aren't loaning :)

04:59 <CoderForLife> try those you have accounts with first

04:59 <Soul_keeper> i have an account with wells fargo,  the 12.5%  was just the number i got from their online application process

05:00 <Soul_keeper> they've given me gold, silver, and business cards and large credit limits before

05:00 <Soul_keeper> i just never used them

05:00 <CoderForLife> I'd "sanity-check" the rate with others

05:01 <Soul_keeper> how concerned are they about what you will use the money for ?

05:01 <Soul_keeper> or is their primary concern just that you will pay it back ?

05:02 <CoderForLife> they always ask - part of the "know your customer" laws

05:02 <Soul_keeper> i'll just tell them i wish to build credit

05:02 <Soul_keeper> seems like a good enough answer

05:02 <CoderForLife> if you mention buying fertilizer and a van, they might pull back the form

05:03 <DerMeister> hehe

05:03 <DerMeister> ... and call the fbi instead? ^^

05:03 <CoderForLife> the first thing I ever bought on credit was precisely for that reason - to start a credit history

05:03 <CoderForLife> I could have paid cash

05:04 <Soul_keeper> i've always used bank cards and checks/cash

05:04 <Soul_keeper> just comes right out of my checking account

05:04 <Soul_keeper> could have built some nice credit if i had spent the last 7yrs using a credit card instead

05:08 <Soul_keeper> thanks

05:08 <CoderForLife> np hth

05:11 <Soul_keeper> it's 2am i got bad sleeping habits

05:11 <CoderForLife> it's 5:00 and I keep getting up to go to w@#% - got to stop that

05:12 <Soul_keeper> lol

05:12 <Soul_keeper> ohh i'll be awake to work here at 5:30 ...  just a matter of if i need sleep or not i guess

05:12 <Soul_keeper> slept all day saturday and pretty thru me off balance

05:13 <Soul_keeper> ttyl

05:13 <CoderForLife> cya

05:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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05:48 <xcamel> boo..

05:52 <Welshman>  quite a good irc client for win32

05:52 <Romulus> Title: Welkom bij (at

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05:59 <CoderForLife> Is that IRC client in English, Welshman?

06:00 <Welshman> sure

06:00 <Welshman> just playing with some of its colour themes, not bad

06:01 <Welshman> considering its free its very good

06:01 <Welshman> favourites work as well

06:01 <CoderForLife> the web page *sure* isn't =)

06:01 <Welshman> yeah, look naff heh

06:02 <Welshman> nice software though

06:02 <CoderForLife> I'm off to w@#% - cya all later

06:02 <Welshman> bye

06:02 <Soul_keeper> have fun

06:02 <CoderForLife> cya Soul_keeper

06:02 <Welshman> in work :)

06:03 <CoderForLife> w@#%...  =)

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06:31 <yoyo[work]> ping

06:32 <yoyo[work]> &ping

06:32 <Romulus> pong

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07:20 <hawmps> hmmm... chance of snow tomorrow morning..

07:27 <KathrynM> still like summer here....  almost 80 today

07:28 <KathrynM> at least the humidity is gone

07:31 <Welshman> super autumn day here today

07:31 <Welshman> mushroom season too

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07:40 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

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07:40 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 42.7F / 5.9C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Patchy frost early this morning. Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph...becoming west this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 40s. Southwest winds around 5 mph in the (1 more message)

07:41 <jackygrahamez> &more

07:41 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. West winds around 5 mph...increasing to 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph in the afternoon.; Frost Advisory for District of Columbia County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on October 20, 2008;

07:45 <jackygrahamez> Time to pick the tomatoes :-)

07:46 <Welshman> its a hard life

07:46 <Welshman> cheese and tomato sandwich is one of my favourite foods

07:48 <jackygrahamez> I'm partial to mozzarella

07:48 <Welshman> my missus likes that

07:49 <Welshman> cheddar for me

07:50 <Welshman> le fromage des pays is good here in the Pyrenees, excellant with a cherry jam

07:50 <Welshman> *excellent

07:52 <Welshman> monty python sketch comes to mind :)

07:52 <Welshman>

07:52 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - The Cheese Shop sketch, Monty Python (at

08:03 <jackygrahamez> What a violent end :-)

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08:46 <Welshman> yes, not even funny the end part

08:47 <Welshman> monty python were corny at times

08:47 <Welshman> and hilarious at other times

08:47 <Welshman> humour has its place I suppose

08:49 <Welshman> I'm a Christian but I find life of brian very funny, the alms for an x leper is very hard to beat :)

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09:20 <jackygrahamez> I like Monty Python and the holy grail

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09:54 <Welshman> &help

09:54 <Romulus> Welshman: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

09:55 <Welshman> Recent average credit650.81

09:56 <Welshman> I am trying to get to the top of my team

09:56 <Welshman> I should do it in 8 months :)

09:57 <Welshman> top guy has 113k and I have 23k :(

09:58 <Welshman> actually I not done the math

09:59 <Tank_Master> small team

09:59 <Welshman> 16

09:59 <Welshman> and I am 3rd :)

09:59 <Welshman> 14 members I mean

10:00 <Welshman> only a few active

10:00 <Tank_Master> im 27th on my team

10:00 <Tank_Master> with almost 8m credits

10:00 <Welshman> of how many

10:00 <Welshman> 8m :)

10:00 <Tank_Master> hard to say

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10:00 <Tank_Master> seveal ghost accounts

10:00 <Tank_Master> but probably 4-5k members

10:01 <Welshman> your doing well then

10:01 <Tank_Master> hiya zombie67!

10:01 <Welshman> how many machines?  I have 2

10:01 <Tank_Master> I only have 5 or 6 right now

10:01 <Tank_Master> 2 quads though

10:01 <Welshman> cool

10:02 <Welshman> mine are both dual

10:02 <Welshman> both with high mem if that helps

10:02 <zombie67> yo

10:03 <Welshman> you here of these computer bots run by hackers

10:03 <Welshman> hear

10:03 <Welshman> maybe there is a way of getting boinc on them and connecting to your account :)

10:04 <Tank_Master> some tried that

10:04 <Welshman> I bet

10:04 <Tank_Master> they got kicked out of BOINC

10:04 <Welshman> naturally :)

10:04 <Tank_Master> stats reset on all the projects and the IPs blocked

10:04 <Welshman> cheating anyway

10:04 <Tank_Master> well, not just that

10:04 <Tank_Master> its illegal

10:04 <Welshman> illigal too

10:04 <Welshman> of course

10:05 <Welshman> dont get serious on me :)

10:06 <Welshman> so its all about processor speed?

10:06 <Welshman> get the job done and move on

10:07 <Welshman> is there a site that actually says what has been achieved, I mean major breakthroughs etc

10:07 <Tank_Master> either speed or in numbers

10:07 <Tank_Master> (preferabley both)

10:08 <Welshman> I just have my desktop and my server

10:08 <Welshman> maybe I will get 2 more like a laptop and maybe another central unit but that will be me maxed out

10:09 <Welshman> laptop wouldnt do much anyway

10:09 <Welshman> probably blow up

10:10 <Welshman> next time I am at my buddies house I will secretly install it on there lol

10:11 <Welshman> wish I could rent out my servers time for money though

10:11 <Welshman> must be opportunties out there but I cant find any

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11:27 <hawmps> re-hi

11:32 <PovAdct_w> "and a new quad was born...proud papa at 11PM last night" LOL

11:32 <PovAdct_w> boincstats shoutbox

11:35 <DerMeister> hehe

11:37 <PovAdct_w> wow, seth is UOTD on boincstats

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12:03 <Welshman> shear greed

12:03 <Welshman> *sheer

12:04 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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12:21 <zombie67> hi toto

12:21 <zombie67> hi yoyo

12:21 <zombie67> heh

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12:21 <zombie67> I finally broke 1M @ yoyo!

12:25 <yoyo[RKN]> ogr will be over soon

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12:47 <Tank_Master> yoyo, you keep saying that

12:47 <Tank_Master> soon relitive to that?

12:47 <Tank_Master> the age of the earth? :P

12:48 <PovAdct_w> he's right, it's quite soon...

12:48 <PovAdct_w> maybe a day

12:48 <Tank_Master> lol

12:48 <Tank_Master> corse Im right...

12:48 <yoyo[RKN]> there are a lot ogr wus in the loop, which are no more usefull for dnet

12:48 * Tank_Master pushes himself into a crevasse

12:49 <yoyo[RKN]> and I did not get fresh ogr from the keyserver

12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> there are arounf 4700 ogr left here

12:50 <Romulus> <> (at

12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> would be 590 boinc wus

12:51 <yoyo[RKN]> so if I would get some of these I could send them with high prio and each one 5 times

12:52 <PovAdct_w> can't you do a server-side abort of the useless workunits?

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12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> I do not know if they are really useless

12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> I get the current ogr from a free-dc proxy

12:53 <yoyo[RKN]> there might be some of the remaining ones between

12:54 <Tank_Master> I returned my oger, the smell was getting to me

12:54 <MTughan_> Ogr, not Ogre.

12:55 <MTughan_> Ogr is also a lot more polite than the ogre. :P

12:55 <Tank_Master> lol

12:56 <MTughan_> bbiab...

12:57 <Tank_Master> hf

13:01 <hawmps> hoo-haa

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13:31 <PovAdct_w> &ping

13:31 <Romulus> pong

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13:53 <hawmps> 'lo PoV

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14:14 <FreeLarry58> humm rectiliniar and malaria still down

14:14 <FreeLarry58> morn jay nick and all

14:16 <hawmps> 'lo Larry

14:17 <FreeLarry58> nice damp day here

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14:23 <hawmps> damp with possible snow tomorrow..

14:24 <Tank_Master> if a company is an equil opertunity, why do they ask for your race?

14:26 <FreeLarry58> ugg jay, for the required info to support their claim as feds want Tank_Master

14:26 <Tank_Master> uhh, ok...

14:26 <hawmps> basically...

14:26 <Tank_Master> just seems odd

14:27 <hawmps> mine is 'zorg' just to keep everything even.

14:27 <FreeLarry58> feds give support but want data to show they doing thier part - all confusion factor to us peons

14:27 <Tank_Master> "we dont discrimonate, but cant higher you for we have to meny white males"....

14:27 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder why they haven't got mine on forms -- mutt

14:28 <PovAdct_w> yeah that's a general stupidity... in some places, to avoid discrimination, they ask for equal amount of whites and blacks... then if they have too many whites they wouldn't accept more whites so they keep equal amount, and that's discrimination!

14:29 <Tank_Master> agreed

14:30 <hawmps> happens far too often in public jobs...

14:30 <Tank_Master> I find it irronic when a company is labeled as discriminatory when they have 10% blacks, but they have only 10% because thats all that have applied

14:30 <PovAdct_w> or some workplaces that, if they have a complete idiot that happens to be black, they won't fire him because they fear being sued for "they fired me because I was black!"

14:30 <Tank_Master> yeah, that to

14:30 <PovAdct_w> so they prefer to keep the idiot causing *trouble*

14:31 <hawmps> documentation is the key...

14:31 <Tank_Master> does "convited of other crimes" include traffic violations?

14:31 <hawmps> then we fire them - even if they're purple.

14:32 <hawmps> can be..

14:32 <hawmps> 'charged with' is alot different from 'convicted of'

14:33 <Tank_Master> true

14:35 <jackygrahamez> &help

14:35 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

14:35 <jackygrahamez> &plugin

14:35 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: (plugin <command>) -- Returns the plugin(s) that <command> is in.

14:37 <jackygrahamez> &commands

14:37 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: #boinc, 8b, 8ball, action, actor, add, airport, alert, announce, answer, any, aol, append, apply, apropos, areacode, artist, asin, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bchset, beer, bighello, binary, boinc, boincerr, bold, books, botsnack, bticket, bw, bye, cache, cad, cake, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, (6 more messages)

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14:38 <jackygrahamez> &help cad

14:38 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: (cad <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo".

14:38 <Tank_Master> &CAD

14:38 <Romulus>

14:38 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:38 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chanstats, chr, clear, cmd, cnn, coffee, coin, color, colorize, commands, concat, config, contributors, convert, countdown, cpu, crypt, ctime, cut, cyborg, cycle, damnpointers, decode, deepthought, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, devoice, dice, dict, (5 more messages)

14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: dictionaries, ding, director, disable, dns, do, doctype, donkeyscoffee, dump, echo, eclipse, eightball, elapsed, enable, encode, errno, espresso, explosm, export, fetch, field, fight, fincher, flush, forget, format, fortune, g2g, get, ghost, gnu, google, grab, halfop, ham, headers, hebrew, hello, help, hexip, hexlify, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, httpcode, (4 more messages)

14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: icalc, icetea, identify, ignore, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, info, install, insult, invite, ircquote, isbn, jeffk, jfgi, join, karma, kban, key, kick, language list, language random, lart, last, learn, leet, len, levenshtein, liberalcoffee, limit, list, lithp, ln, load, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, lock, log, lol, lower, lucky, manufacturer, math, maxrefs, (3 more messages)

14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: md5, memo, meta, mode, moderate, monologue, more, mornin, morse, most, net, netcraft, news, nick, nickometer, nicks, nn, notice, old, op, ord, outfilter, part, password, pastebin, peak, phonebook, pid, ping, pizza, plugin, pong, port, praise, private, pull, qc, quiet, quit, quote, rainbow, random, re, register, reload, remove, rename, repeat, reply, repr, reverse, rfc, rot13, (2 more messages)

14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: roulette, rpn, rss, say, scramble, search, seconds, seen, send, server, servtest, set password, set secure, sha, shrink, shuffle, size, sleep, social, soundex, source, spell, spellit, squish, stateinfo, stats, status, stfu, stripcolor, success, supa1337, syn, target, tea, teal'c, tell, thanks, threads, time, tiny, title, tracticket, translate, unban, underline, undup, unhexlify, (1 more message)

14:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

14:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: unidentify, units, unload, unlock, unmoderate, unmorse, unregister, unrename, until, upc, update, upkeep, upper, uptime, urbandict, urlquote, urlunquote, user, username, version, videos, voice, weather, whatis, who, whoami, whois, wordstats, wrong, wrong2, wtf, wunder, wunder rss, wx, xe, xkcd, xor, yahoo, yum, zipcode, and zipinfo

14:40 <jackygrahamez> &social

14:40 <Romulus>

14:40 <PovAdct_w> stop abusing the bot :)

14:40 <jackygrahamez> sorry

14:41 <jackygrahamez> is there an offline instruction?

14:41 <PovAdct_w> sure, PM the bot

14:41 <Tank_Master> n00ber :P

14:41 <jackygrahamez> ah

14:41 <Tank_Master> lol

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14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &who

14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?

14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &who

14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?

14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &net

14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?

14:42 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &help daft

14:42 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?

14:43 <jackygrahamez> Romulus &help prais

14:43 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Are you daft?

14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> &who

14:43 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 171 matched: ^WolvixBot^, Abuela_Coca, alphabot, alsa-helper, alumniBot, antrax, armabot, Asima, AutBot, b0t, basda, basie-bot, bitbucket, Blaine, blue-bell, bob-bot, bobot, bossbot, bot119`, bot1st, Bot245, botinator`, Botsworth, botTega, botvantis, buggbot, canto-bot, Cappuccino, cchelpbot, Chief|Wiggum, clb, CreaLibrBot, Crow_T_Robot, cyto-bot, Datamachine, dr00py, edzio, Eeyore-Jr, (4 more messages)

14:43 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez must be daft

14:43 <Tank_Master> :P

14:44 * jackygrahamez slaps Romulus with a rainbow trout

14:44 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

14:47 <jackygrahamez> sorry I was playing around here

14:47 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master with a rainbow trout

14:48 * Tank_Master burns jackygrahamez's house down

14:48 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master

14:48 * yoyo[RKN] slaps jackygrahamez with a hydrogen

14:49 <jackygrahamez> ouch

14:50 * Tank_Master slaps yoyo[RKN] with dihydrogen monoxide

14:50 * yoyo[RKN] fires back with ogr

14:58 <zombie67> RCN is down, which is annoying

14:58 <zombie67> Hopefully they are upgrading the server, so that it finally recognizes my OSX 64 bit BOINC client

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15:22 <FreeLarry58> humm m$ update tuesday seems to have started - with only an update to silverlight

15:22 <FreeLarry58> 3 machines so far

15:28 <Tank_Master> update tuesday was last tuesday

15:28 <Tank_Master> this is monday anyway

15:28 <FreeLarry58> ahh left overs than

15:29 <Tank_Master> silverlite has been avalible for months, and doesnt get auto installed

15:29 <FreeLarry58> true just the updates to the machines i have it on

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15:29 <Tank_Master> ahh

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16:21 <xcamel> ip kill >>

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16:56 <xcamel> CFL?

16:56 <Romulus> Somebody said CFL is maybe busy doing husbandly chores, xcamel

16:56 <CoderForLife> howdy

16:57 <CoderForLife> Biden sure knows how to lay eggs

16:57 <xcamel> just sent you something

17:07 <zombie67> it's all about three letters:  JOBS

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17:09 <CoderForLife> Biden: Obama Will be 'Tested' by World in First 6 Months of Administration

17:09 <PovAddict> heh, aptitude: "Ouch!  Got SIGTERM, dying..."

17:09 <CoderForLife> heh

17:10 <xcamel> 'spread the wealth" - make everyone equally miserable

17:10 <CoderForLife>  Biden looks like he has been taking too much Chinese campaign contributions

17:10 <Romulus> <> (at

17:15 <CoderForLife>

17:15 <Romulus> <> (at

17:27 <CoderForLife> interesting

17:27 <Romulus> Title: U.S. pilot ordered to shoot down UFO - Space- (at

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17:33 <xcamel> yummy dinner..

17:33 <xcamel> I think they got that story wrong... it was a UK pilot...

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17:40 <CoderForLife> off to write some Code while the world careens toward oblivion

17:40 <CoderForLife> much laterz...

17:40 <xcamel> see ya

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17:44 <xcamel> Oh boy - a whole lot of kitty going on here...

17:44 <xcamel>

17:44 <Romulus> <> (at

17:48 <PovAddict> cute

17:48 <PovAddict> and the tigers too

17:48 <xcamel> exactly..

18:04 <zombie67>

18:04 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:34 <Tank_Master>

18:35 <Romulus> <> (at

18:36 <xcamel> great film..

18:52 <xcamel> anyone know if 6.3.x is stable?

18:52 <PovAddict> the latest is

18:52 <xcamel> for linux..

18:52 <PovAddict> for reasonable definitions of "stable"

18:52 <xcamel> .14?

18:53 <PovAddict> I know of an earlier 6.3.x that in some cases tried to start every single workunit in your cache at the same time, eating lots of RAM

18:53 <PovAddict> (bad interaction with the GPU scheduler)

18:53 <PovAddict> but recent 6.3s don't have anything that serious

18:53 <xcamel> ok..

18:56 <xcamel> hmm.. didn't start the client..

18:56 <xcamel> that's not good.

18:58 <xcamel> back to 6.2.14

18:58 <Tank_Master> I use 6.3.14 with no probs on server 2008 x64

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18:59 <xcamel> needs boincmgr to work with boinc

19:02 <xcamel> kind of a show stopper if that doesn't happen...

19:05 <zombie67> 1.25 hours??  Bender : "I'm not reading that crap! Sum it up in one word!"

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19:16 <xcamel> Every Bender needs a Chode.

19:16 <bigt0242000> anybody know what's up with

19:17 <xcamel> They banned DDT.

19:18 <bigt0242000> that didn't answer my question

19:18 <zombie67> RCN is back up

19:19 <xcamel> it answered the BIG question...

19:31 <zombie67> I can't get the retry now button to work with 6.3.14, for transfers

19:31 <xcamel> I scrapped 6.3 again

19:31 <zombie67> can't.  I am running PS3GRID

19:44 <xcamel> lol >>

19:44 <Romulus> <> (at

19:46 <PovAddict> I lack most of the background, but I generally agree with that article

19:46 <PovAddict> it doesn't really matter that he wrote that

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19:46 <PovAddict> what matters is that he's lying, trying to hide it now

19:47 <xcamel> the only crime is the lie/coverup

19:47 <PovAddict> yup

19:48 <efc> Nixon in trouble again?

19:48 <PovAddict> lol

19:53 <xcamel> that would be easy..

19:58 <efc> Did I ever send you that mp3 of me playing Pov ?

19:58 <PovAddict> nope

20:21 <efc> complete thing is like 25 minutes long. That audio is off a camcorder :( the real theater recording system failed.

20:33 <xcamel> &weather 12074

20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Connection refused.

20:33 <bigt0242000> lol

20:33 <xcamel> &wx 12074

20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 44.6F / 7.0C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Rain showers likely. Highs in the mid 50s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon. (1 more message)

20:33 <xcamel> &more

20:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. Showers likely in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

20:34 <efc> Getting chilly here

20:35 <bigt0242000> it was chilly here this morning

20:36 <xcamel> 26F here this morning

20:37 <xcamel> possible snow tomorrow night

20:39 <zombie67> I think I need one of the new MacBook Pros...

20:40 <zombie67> I need it bad....

20:44 <xcamel> how new?

20:44 <Romulus> I guess how new is new, xcamel

20:46 * Tank_Master throws a keyboard at Romulus

20:47 <xcamel> the one I have is just fine, but thanks.

20:58 <efc> &wx 31088

20:58 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 50F / 10C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Patchy frost after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds becoming west up to 5 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in (1 more message)

21:03 <xcamel> chilly also..

21:04 <efc> hmm, to go run or not

21:10 <efc> just have to pop some extra vitamin C when its cold

21:12 <xcamel> in the dark...

21:12 <xcamel> never good...

21:15 <efc> streelights

21:15 <efc> light enough

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21:17 <efc> haven't been running at home, afraid of deer hunters

21:27 <xcamel> don't blame you - had a couple trespassing tonight, got away before the cops showed up..

21:27 <xcamel> the usual suspects..

21:48 <efc> Deer season just started, and I run on a national forest road

21:48 <efc> They aren't supposed to hunt within 50 yards of the road

21:48 <PovAddict> hunt them

21:48 <efc> but the range on a 30.06 is probably longer than 50 yards

21:48 <efc> only ran a mere 2miles tonight

21:56 <jasong2> Has anyone ever calculated how much power BOINC would have if ALL the working computers on the Internet were put on BOINC?

21:56 <Tank_Master> no

21:56 <jasong2> Well, then, hop to it, TM

21:56 <jasong2> jk

21:57 <jasong2> Okay, anybody want to talk about Heroes or Terminator?

21:57 <xcamel> 27.5^24 godzillajibits.

21:57 <Tank_Master> the termonator chic is hot

21:57 <xcamel> syler is going to be spok in the next Star Trek movie.

21:58 <jasong2> Did you see the part where the cyborg claimed a little girl was her daughter?

21:58 <xcamel> laterz..

21:58 <jasong2> So, is the little girl a cyborg?

21:58 <jasong2> Did the cyborg kill the mother, and the kid never found out?

21:58 <jasong2> or...?

21:59 <Tank_Master> is the deadline time my time or ther server time?

21:59 <PovAddict> as shown where Tank_Master?

21:59 <Tank_Master> in the BOINC manager

21:59 <PovAddict> local time on your machine

21:59 <Tank_Master> ok

21:59 <Tank_Master> thx

22:00 <jasong2> Hey, if the T100 was sicced on , how well would it do?

22:00 <jasong2> Or BOINC, since that's the channel

22:00 <jasong2> T100 == the cyborg that was played by the governor of California

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22:18 <zombie67> mmmmm

22:18 <zombie67> so close to buying it

22:24 <Tank_Master> what?

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22:26 <zombie67> MacBook Pro

22:27 <Tank_Master> oh

22:28 <zombie67> a sorta comperable Dell is $2300

22:28 <zombie67> The MBP is $2900

22:29 <zombie67> of course the dell is no Mac...

22:31 <Tank_Master> you could put mac on the dell...

22:31 <PovAddict> blasphemy :)

22:33 <Tank_Master> lol

22:33 <Tank_Master> true

22:33 <Tank_Master> using a mac OS in any fachion is

22:35 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master

22:35 <efc> jasong2: you'll occasionally see people figure out how much power the net would have as a combined botnet for cipher cracking

22:35 * Tank_Master pushes PovAddict into a crevasse

22:37 <efc> T101 runs 6052 assembly

22:38 <efc> or is that 6502

22:38 <jasong2> You know, Doomsday people always seem to think that the machines will automatically side with Evil, but what if the computers decided that their best bet was to fully endorse a spiritual belief system?

22:38 <jasong2> Sorry, I'm both bored and hyper at the moment

22:38 <efc> I think that would be worse, then they wouldn't even be logical

22:39 <efc> Streets will flow with the bits of the unbelievers

22:39 <efc> thats more or less what the Cylons did

22:39 * jasong2 thinks he and efc wouldn't get along that well. :)

22:39 <jasong2> true, but the Cylons were still "bad."

22:40 <efc> send your 6502 fembot over here and i will evaluate the possibilities

22:40 <jasong2> I'm talking about a machine that either sides with a God, or the worshippers of a God.  In my case, I'm assuming that the believers at least think they're in the right

22:41 <jasong2> So, maybe an Islamic botnet, Christian botnet, maybe Buddhist or Hindu...

22:41 * jasong2 knows nothing about Hinduism

22:41 <efc> Fat Budha, Laughing Budha, and Digital Budha

22:43 <efc> the bank needs to quit sending me flyers with hot girls on it

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22:45 <jasong2> Hey, since I've obviously freaked some people out...

22:45 <jasong2> has anyone built an Intel Atom crunching farm?

22:48 <Tank_Master> nutcase has some atoms

22:48 <Tank_Master> but their performance aint to great

22:48 <Tank_Master> bout 450RAC I believe

22:52 <jasong2> nutcase is a username?

22:54 <zombie67> TM, check this out:

22:54 <Romulus> <> (at

22:54 <zombie67> the fastest T series w/ 6mb L2 is T9500

22:55 <zombie67> that is 2.6ghz

22:55 <zombie67> Yet the new MBP has an optional 2.8ghz C2D

22:55 <zombie67> w/ 6gb

22:55 <zombie67> 6mb L2

22:55 <zombie67> so Apple has access to chips that no one else does (yet)

22:57 <MTughan> Seems it's the T9600.

22:57 <Romulus> <> (at

22:57 <MTughan> And I wouldn't trust that Intel page. I have a T9400 chip at 2.53GHz with 6MB L2 cache that's not there.

22:58 <MTughan> Oh... None of the T9x00 processors with an FSB of 1066MHz are there.

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23:15 <zombie67> ah, so an old pa\ge

23:15 <zombie67> page

23:15 <zombie67> thanks

23:24 <zombie67> MT?

23:24 <Romulus> hmm... MT is right, zombie67

23:24 <zombie67> running out of room on my laptop HD

23:24 <zombie67> how do I remove the developer stuff?

23:25 <Tank_Master> for?

23:25 <zombie67> for what?

23:25 <Tank_Master> dev stuff for what?

23:26 <zombie67> OSX

23:26 <Tank_Master> format and install XP?

23:26 <Tank_Master> or linux

23:26 <Tank_Master> :)

23:26 <zombie67> keep banging that drum

23:26 <Tank_Master> dont worry

23:26 <Tank_Master> I will :P

23:26 <zombie67> ;)

23:27 * jasong2 puts his foot through the drum

23:27 * Tank_Master beautifies jasong2 with some knuckle duster imprints

23:27 <zombie67> MTughan?

23:27 <Romulus> I guess MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, zombie67

23:28 <MTughan> Sorry, missed your flash before...

23:28 <MTughan> Stupid Rommie...

23:28 <jasong2> jasong2?

23:28 <jasong2> damn

23:28 <zombie67> zombie67?

23:28 <Romulus> hmm... zombie67 is considering upgrading to leopard, zombie67

23:28 <jasong2> Tank_Master?

23:28 <Romulus> Somebody said Tank_Master is now, jasong2

23:28 <zombie67> bizarre

23:28 <jasong2> That didn't even make sense

23:28 <MTughan> You should just be able to run the installer package from your install DVD to uninstall Xcode.

23:28 <zombie67> heh

23:29 <MTughan> jasong?

23:29 <zombie67> I think I d/l'd xcode

23:29 <jasong2> Add a 2

23:29 <Tank_Master> its Romulus, its not ment to make since

23:29 <MTughan> Thought maybe because you don't use jasong2 much.

23:29 <zombie67> so I need to re-d/l, then run the uninstaller?

23:29 <MTughan> zombie67: Well, the installer package... Hold on, let me look it up.

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23:30 <joetheplumber1> hmmmm, it still has that 1 at the end

23:30 *** joetheplumber1 is now known as jasong

23:30 <MTughan> zombie67: Take a look at /Developer/About Xcode Tools.pdf, search for uninstall.

23:32 <zombie67> awesome!  "sudo perl /Developer/Tools/"

23:32 <MTughan> What version of Xcode do you have? 3.0 or 2.4?

23:32 <zombie67> er....dunno

23:33 <zombie67> latest for tiger, i think

23:33 <MTughan> Because that's quite different from the instructions I have, for 3.1... Ah, Tiger? It's 2.4.

23:33 <zombie67> it seems to be working

23:33 <MTughan> Cool.

23:34 <MTughan> Well... I don't consider it cool that you're uninstalling the dev tools... But you know what I mean. ;)

23:34 <zombie67> heh

23:34 <MTughan> Not that that'll probably uninstall gcc from the CLI too.

23:34 <zombie67> this is my 17" Core Duo (not core 2 duo), so you know how small my HD is

23:34 <MTughan> No, I don't... I have a 160GB drive in mine.

23:35 <zombie67> 120gb

23:35 <MTughan> Ah...

23:35 <zombie67> okay, that got me 3gb

23:35 <zombie67> need more

23:35 <zombie67> ideas?

23:35 <MTughan> I have 12.1GB free ATM, but I also have 7 DVD rips on here...

23:35 <MTughan> Did that get rid of the /Developer folder?

23:35 <zombie67> 10gb free here

23:36 <zombie67> no

23:36 <MTughan> If you've uninstalled the tools, it's probably safe to delete that.

23:36 <zombie67> Applications and Extras left

23:36 <MTughan> Anything in Applications?

23:36 <zombie67> Utilities/packagemanager

23:36 <zombie67> PackageMaker

23:37 <MTughan> Those are applications to make Installer packages with. You're fine without them.

23:37 <zombie67> Problem is that my itumes is 49gb

23:37 <MTughan> Ah, I can't help you with that...

23:37 <zombie67> Developer is trashed

23:38 <zombie67> emptying trash got me .4gb

23:38 <MTughan> Ever used Disk Inventory X?

23:38 <zombie67> yep

23:39 <MTughan> Okay, because that'd help you if you hadn't used it...

23:39 <zombie67> Or.....I could make this go away, and buy a new MBP with the 320gb HD....

23:40 <MTughan> Why the heck is the kernel using 203MB of memory... Grrr...

23:48 <zombie67> MT, thanks again for the help

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