IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-10-25

00:03 <zombie67> pathfinder

00:07 <zombie67> new iTerm

00:13 <CoderForLife>

00:13 <Romulus> <> (at

00:18 <zombie67> MT?

00:18 <Romulus> MT is right, zombie67

00:18 <MTughan> Here.

00:18 <zombie67> version tracker is telling me there is a new verison of X11

00:18 <MTughan> Of X11? That's odd...

00:18 <zombie67> 1.1.3 vs 2.1.5

00:19 <zombie67> but I am having trouble learning the difference

00:21 <zombie67> also odd, VT iells me that 2.1.5 was released in 2006

00:21 <zombie67> what could be new about X11??

00:21 <MTughan> I don't know. I have 2.1.5.

00:21 <zombie67> hwo do I tell?

00:21 <zombie67> version?

00:21 <MTughan> Launch X11, X11-> About X11. Just as you would in any other application.

00:22 <zombie67> 1.1.3

00:22 <zombie67> I also have tiger

00:22 <zombie67> I wonder if the 2.x is for leopard?

00:22 <MTughan> Leopard here. I don't have my Tiger discs with me.

00:24 <zombie67> apple should have a version history for apps someplace

00:25 <zombie67>

00:25 <Romulus> <> (at

00:25 <zombie67> according to that, tiger is required for 2.x

00:25 <zombie67> so WTF?  Why am I at 1.x?

00:26 <MTughan> Ah... For Leopard, they changed from XFree86 to

00:26 <MTughan> Those are just by default, could be the 2.x update.

00:26 <zombie67> apple developer site tells me that it is included in xcode....did my uninstall of xcode drop me back to 1.x?

00:26 <MTughan> No, it wouldn't. Or it shouldn't at least.

00:27 <zombie67> so how do I get back to 2.x?

00:27 <zombie67> I can't seem to d/l it anywhere

00:27 <zombie67> and i think 1.x came from thedvd

00:27 <MTughan> You wouldn't. "There is no official way to install on 10.4 or 10.5 without the install DVD."

00:28 <MTughan> I think Apple changed the icon somewhere along the way too...

00:28 <Romulus> Title: X11 (application) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

00:28 <zombie67> d/l xcode now, but it looks like it will tan 30 min or so

00:29 <MTughan> Apparently, X11 2.3.1 (the latest) req's 10.5.5.

00:29 <zombie67> okay, but I just want 2.1.5

00:30 <MTughan> Let me see what I can find...

00:30 <zombie67> lemme go find my tiger DVD to verify.

00:31 <MTughan> All right. I don't have a 2.1.5, but there is a 2.1.4. It was released February 15th, 2008. Requires 10.5.2.

00:31 <zombie67> i am still on tiger

00:31 <zombie67> on this machine

00:31 <MTughan> I know...

00:32 <MTughan> From what I can tell, the 2.x releases are for Leopard...

00:33 <zombie67> really, then VT is wrong?

00:33 <MTughan> So it seems.

00:33 <MTughan> Looking at the open-source project which Apple apparently takes their versions from.

00:33 <zombie67> okay then, what is your opinion on OS upgrading....

00:34 <zombie67> apple says it's easy and simple, but I have found nothing but problems trying to do that

00:34 <MTughan> I haven't found anything bad about Leopard so far. The stacks can be annoying at first, but you get used to them.

00:34 <MTughan> My upgrade went fine as I remember. Except Unsanity's ShapeShifter didn't support Leopard when I upgraded. I've phased that out anyway.

00:34 <zombie67> and end up doing a clean install, and then copying the relavent data files, and installing everything from scratch

00:35 <zombie67> so you upgraded, vs clean install?

00:35 <MTughan> Yes.

00:36 <zombie67> boinc and everyting still worked, no aborted tasks?

00:36 <MTughan> Although... I think I did have to disable ShapeShifter because it was causing "bluescreens" on Leopard startup. Only pitfall I remember.

00:36 <MTughan> I don't know. This machine has been on Leopard for a while. I don't remember what all happened.

00:36 <zombie67> what about things that mess with the kernel like VNC clients?

00:37 <MTughan> You could always finish off the tasks before you upgrade.

00:37 <MTughan> Clients or servers?

00:37 <zombie67> sorry, I meant VPN

00:37 <zombie67> cicso VPN clients

00:37 <MTughan> Couldn't tell you. I don't use a VPN.

00:37 <zombie67> the thing annoying about OSX

00:38 <zombie67> they say apps are simple!  just drag into app folder!

00:38 <zombie67> but too many require install packages, and uninstall packages

00:38 <MTughan> Yeah...

00:38 <zombie67> not consistant

00:39 <MTughan> At least Mac has a standardized install application. Windows installers are usually all over the place.

00:39 <zombie67> so I am concerned about the stuff requirring install packaes

00:39 <zombie67> when doing the upgraqde

00:39 <MTughan> Yeah.

00:40 <zombie67> recommend just doing it?

00:41 <MTughan> I'd probably look up some of the more special programs and see other users' experiences. As for BOINC, you can always just let the current tasks crunch and set all projects to NNW.

00:41 <CoderForLife> hmm

00:42 <zombie67> actually, a clean wipe, and leopard install would probably deal with a lot of the accumulated bloat

00:42 <MTughan> There is that aspect too.

00:42 <zombie67> give me back a bunch of space

00:42 <zombie67> hmmmmmm

00:42 <CoderForLife> time to try sleeping again

00:42 <MTughan> Just make a list of the software you have installed now to know what you need to reinstall.

00:42 <zombie67> heh

00:42 <zombie67> naw,

00:42 <zombie67> if I don't miss it, i don't need it

00:43 <MTughan> CFL: You'd miss all the great discussion here! xD

00:43 <zombie67> i have all the receipts in my imap email

00:43 <CoderForLife> I'm afraid so

00:43 <MTughan> zombie67: Yeah, but what about the programs you'd miss?

00:43 <MTughan> Okay.

00:43 <CoderForLife> gn again

00:43 <MTughan> Night.

00:44 <zombie67> remember, this is my laptop

00:44 <MTughan> zombie67: I'd tell you to ask in a Mac channel about challenges upgrading from Tiger to Leopard, but I would suspect you'd get a lot of praise about how much better Leopard is over Tiger.

00:44 <zombie67> all my stuff is copied from my 8-way

00:44 <zombie67> i have leopard on my 8-way

00:44 <zombie67> my dock still blows up every 30 minutes or so on leopard

00:45 <MTughan> Your dock? That's odd. Mine never does.

00:45 <zombie67> like clock workd

00:45 <MTughan> Only reason I have to restart the dock is the quick look functions in stacks.

00:45 <zombie67> I disabled stacks....suxors

00:45 <MTughan> Which reminds me, I need to clean out my downloads folder...

00:46 <zombie67> esp when your dock is on the left, like mine

00:46 <MTughan> Ah yeah...

00:46 <zombie67> okay, I won't be back for a long time....clean wipe and leopard install!!!!

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00:54 <efc> One p3 heater on..

01:05 <efc> Maybe I should get a deluxe metronome

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01:14 <quail> &wx ypad

01:14 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 86°F / 30°C | Humidity: 13% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 3:30 PM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Overcast. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Overcast. High:93 F. / 34 C.; Overcast. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Chance of Rain. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.;

01:19 <efc> My s@h skymap is getting pretty busy

01:19 <PovAddict> can't sleep

01:23 <efc> I wonder if one of those super delux Dr. Beat metronomes would straighten my rhythm out

01:24 <efc> one that does subdivisions

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02:12 <zombie67> i'm back

02:12 <zombie67> but forgot how to register my nic

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02:16 <zombie67> dangit...

02:16 <zombie67> how do I retrieve my password?

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02:33 <Tank_Master> for?

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02:38 <zombie67> that's better

02:39 <MTughan> BTW, your quit message is cut off: ""OK boys, just remember...  It's Rape, Kill, Pillage and Burn.  In THAT ORDER!" -- D"

02:39 <Tank_Master> your comming and going more than the hookers tonight

02:39 <zombie67> heh

02:39 <zombie67> i have a leave meaasge from my clean install??

02:40 <MTughan> No, from before.

02:40 <zombie67> ah

02:40 <MTughan> Right now, I just have "zombie67 left the chat room. - (Client Quit)"

02:40 <zombie67> using only 15gb now

02:41 <zombie67> anyone like my churchill quote?

02:43 <zombie67> this one is too long, but one of my favs:

02:43 <zombie67> "My friends: We did it. We weren't just marking time. We made a difference. We made the city stronger, we made the city freer, and we left her in good hands. All in all, not bad, not bad at all.  And so, goodbye, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America." -- Ronald Reagan

02:43 <zombie67> brb, update rebot

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02:44 <Tank_Master> mine is "its amasing what one can do when one does not know what one cannot do"

02:44 <MTughan> I have another one: "We'll set up a 75 cent meal that'll knock their eyes out. After we knock their eyes out, we can charge them anything we want." - Groucho Marx

02:45 <Tank_Master> heh

02:46 * efc holds off on the 10 gigabit ethernet.. the cards are $1000

02:47 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:47 <Tank_Master> and to think intel will be including then intergrated for free

02:47 <Tank_Master> and to think intel will be including then intergrated for free

02:47 <Tank_Master> crap @$$ mouse

02:48 <Tank_Master> it scorled up on me so I didnt see my post:P

02:49 <efc> Someday, but it will be quite a while

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02:50 <efc> "Researchers in November 2007 proved that it is "definitely possible" to transport 100 gigabits per second over 70 meters of CAT7 cable and they are now working on extending it to 100 m.[1] This technology may be available in early 2013"

02:51 <MTughan> Not bad...

02:53 <Tank_Master> sweet

02:54 <Tank_Master> efc - the nehalem chipsets will suppert 10Gbe

02:54 <efc> If you want to do medium range communications.. say 100 meters up to a few miles.. what do you use then? Fiber transceiver on ethernet?

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02:54 <Tank_Master> voodoo

02:55 <MTughan> You know how odd that looks to zombie?

02:56 <zombie67> sphincter says what?

02:57 <efc> Ah, "media converter", about $60

02:59 <zombie67> testing

02:59 <zombie67> testing

02:59 <efc> FAIL

02:59 <zombie67> testing

02:59 <MTughan> We can see it, if that's what you're waiting for.

03:00 <zombie67> no, I am trying out fonts

03:00 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

03:00 <zombie67> heh

03:00 <efc> They all look the same, FAIL

03:00 <zombie67> testing

03:00 <zombie67> better

03:01 <zombie67> courier is okay

03:01 <zombie67> monico is best

03:01 <MTughan> Well... 3AM, and it seems there's a convocation of people outside.

03:02 <Tank_Master> porn shop next door?

03:02 <MTughan> No, that's 10 minutes away.

03:03 <Tank_Master> ahh

03:04 <zombie67> gn TM, and thanks again for all the help

03:04 <zombie67> er....MT

03:04 <MTughan> Reversal. See you.

03:05 <MTughan> I once took a pun on that... I used to sign papers with "MT". So one time, I signed it "Empty". The teacher figured it out soon enough. :P

03:14 <Tank_Master> ?

03:15 <Tank_Master> whatd my alternate do?

03:16 <MTughan> He typed TM when he meant MT.

03:17 <Tank_Master> hence why I asked what my counterpart did

03:19 <MTughan> I'll just say good night now... Really tired.

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03:23 <zombie67> you two need to quit making out

03:31 <efc> 100BASE-FX, up to 2km over fiber

03:39 <zombie67> DH2 is on!

03:46 <Tank_Master> ?

03:47 <zombie67> die hard II

03:47 * efc declares World Contact Day

03:48 <zombie67> sexiest theigh on thr cover of the latest PB

03:48 <zombie67> brb

03:53 <zombie67> Dulles is my hommie airportt

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08:30 <xcamel> '

08:30 <xcamel> 'lo

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09:10 <xcamel>

09:10 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 October 25 - NGC 602 and Beyond (at

09:30 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:30 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 45.8F / 7.7C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - A chance of showers this morning...then showers this afternoon. Breezy with highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph...increasing to 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain near 100 (2 more messages)

09:30 <xcamel> *more

09:30 <xcamel> &more

09:30 <Romulus> xcamel: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with showers and scattered thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Breezy with lows in the upper 40s. South winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wind (1 more message)

09:30 <xcamel> &more

09:30 <Romulus> xcamel: Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 AM EDT on October 26, 2008;

09:31 <xcamel> yuck

09:32 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

09:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 40.5F / 4.7C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the lower 60s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to around 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 40s. West wind 10 to 15 (1 more message)

09:32 <wdsmia> &more

09:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Windy...cooler. High in the upper 40s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph increasing to 25 to 30 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 40 mph.;

09:40 <xcamel> pretty big storm coming through...

09:41 <xcamel> waiting for the winds..

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10:21 * CoderForLife collapses in his desk chair

10:21 <CoderForLife> back from the store

10:21 <wdsmia> wb

10:21 <CoderForLife> thx - it's quite an ordeal

10:22 <CoderForLife> like the inquisition

10:26 <CoderForLife> the innocent must prove themselves so by trial by ordeal

10:26 <CoderForLife> only the pure in heart can survive the weekly trip to the grocery store

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10:33 <CoderForLife> This is the latest version of "Did You Know?" video created by Sony for a meeting of their executives in June of this year.  A real wake up call.

10:33 <Romulus> <> (at

10:36 <xcamel> for our next trick... 4 wheeling through the rain to spot and evict trespassing hunters...

10:36 <CoderForLife> heh

10:38 <CoderForLife> hook a sentry gun up to the next spy cam

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10:39 <CoderForLife> cute - this link got sent to a friend of mine - his name is Dan Vogel

10:39 <Romulus> <> (at

10:53 <CoderForLife> bbiab

10:58 <xcamel> by '" ????

11:13 <xcamel> fastern your seatbelt - er lifeline...

11:13 <xcamel>

11:13 <Romulus> <> (at

11:15 <xcamel> oh my goodness..

11:30 <CoderForLife> yikes

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11:32 <CoderForLife> unbelievable

11:38 <xcamel> worst thing - I know the area.. and iirc, it shows up on google earth

11:45 <xcamel> on GE - look up "El Chorro" spain

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12:10 <xcamel> Wasn't Andelucia your birthplace?

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12:21 <wdsmia> close Figueres

12:27 <xcamel> Wife and daughter are going to Barcelona this winter..

12:28 <CoderForLife> that's some "walk"

12:28 <wdsmia> make sure the hit the seven doors for at least one dinner

12:29 <CoderForLife> you're staying behind Jay?

12:29 <xcamel> farmhand...

12:30 <xcamel> ie: this is their trip..

12:31 <CoderForLife> that vid has significant pucker-factor for me

12:32 <xcamel> acrophobe, eh?

12:33 <CoderForLife> lack-of concreto-phobe

12:33 <xcamel> that too.. no rail walking without the safety line...

12:33 <wdsmia> 7 portes has been serving the best pieaya since 1836

12:37 <xcamel> our local version...

12:37 <Romulus> <> (at

12:39 <xcamel> seems a whole bunch of illegal record checking was done on "Joe the Plumber" - FBI is investigating..

12:39 <xcamel> scary is that "they" can do it to any one, at any time...

12:43 <CoderForLife> yeah - I posted a link to that last night

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12:45 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:56 <xcamel> noted in wifes travel checklist.

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13:00 <xcamel>

13:00 <Romulus> <> (at

13:00 <xcamel> 3 searches of 'Joe's' BMV files probed

13:01 <Tank_Master> thats looks quite fimiliar...

13:02 <Tank_Master> lol, accessed by a "test account"

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

13:03 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo!

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> one "yo" to much

13:04 <xcamel> bbl...

13:04 <xcamel> sinuses bugging me again...

13:04 <yoyo[RKN]> how about cosinuses

13:06 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo better?

13:06 <Tank_Master> still 3 yos

13:06 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, now with highlighting

13:07 <Tank_Master> one would think yoyoyo would hl you 2 times... :P

13:44 <Tank_Master> wheres nick?

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> Tank_Master

13:45 <Tank_Master> ya?

13:45 <Tank_Master> yoyo[RKN]

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> if nick has a ramsey prog, I can integrate it into yoyo probably

13:46 <Tank_Master> and migrate over the credits? :P

13:46 <Tank_Master> looks like he took the ramsey project down, and I still have a tone of work to compleate

13:46 <yoyo[RKN]> no credit migration

13:46 <Tank_Master> oh well

13:47 <yoyo[RKN]> just give 1 credit per wu

13:48 <Tank_Master> he did talk about doing that

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14:02 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Well, he did let everyone know well in advance that he was going to shut down the project. This should've been something you expected.

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14:37 <PovAddict> did he turn off the project already?

14:38 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: he's *writing* the app

14:38 <efc> Moo

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14:39 <yoyo[RKN]> one of my teammember plays also with a ramsey algorithm

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14:41 <MTughan> PovAddict: Does the Windows version of BOINC enforce any permissions or anything like that?

14:42 <PovAddict> since 6.x, it does a LOT related to permissions

14:42 <PovAddict> client runs in one user, apps run in another

14:42 <MTughan> Running 6.2.19.

14:42 <MTughan> Sorry... I meant do I have to set any permissions on any files I copy in there?

14:42 <PovAddict> I think file permissions are set in a way so that apps can't read outside BOINC files (like your Documents folder)

14:43 <PovAddict> you might have to... look at the ACLs from existing files just in case :)

14:43 <MTughan> Okay... And how do I do that?

14:43 <PovAddict> file properties, Permissions tab

14:44 <MTughan> I don't have a Permissions tab.

14:45 <PovAddict> in explorer, go to Tools -> Options

14:45 <PovAddict> disable "simple file sharing" (*last* checkbox in the list IIRC)

14:45 <MTughan> There we go... Thanks.

14:46 <MTughan> I think it inherits parent permissions or something... They're already set.

14:48 <yoyo[RKN]> I have e.g. a wu with 5 results, 2 of them are running on some clients. If I cancel the wu, will the client get credits forOnline

14:48 <yoyo[RKN]> J?

14:49 <MTughan> Well... app_info is found, but it says the file "einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe" isn't found. It's in the project folder though.

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> will the user get credits for this canceled wu?

14:49 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: what is the min quorum?

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> 1

14:49 <PovAddict> then I think they will

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14:50 <yoyo[RKN]> normaly I should cancel all remaining ogr wus, but if the users does not get credits, they will not like it

14:51 <PovAddict> you should...

14:51 <PovAddict> I think clients will get a server-side abort for the WUs they didn't start, which is good

14:51 <yoyo[RKN]> and if the wu is already running?

14:52 <MTughan> What the... "Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart." Never seen that one before...

14:52 <PovAddict> I'm not sure if a server-side abort causes that

14:52 <PovAddict> MTughan: I think I know why that is

14:52 <PovAddict> MTughan: your app_info.xml points to an app version that the server doesn't support anymore

14:53 <PovAddict> for example an old version that isn't compatible with new WUs

14:55 <MTughan> Problem is it's a beta app still in testing. Version 6.05 compared to 6.04.

14:55 <Tank_Master> less than a day isnt "well in advanced"

14:56 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Not the exact date, but that he was going to be shutting down the project.

14:56 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: why are you still crunching? the WUs are totally useless; abort all

14:56 <Tank_Master> cus the credits are good

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14:56 <Tank_Master> I dont care about the science :P

14:56 <PovAddict> pfft noob

14:57 <Tank_Master> and proud of it! :D

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14:58 <PovAddict> ok I have 200MB of Einstein stats (highly compressed)... how do I go about doing stuff with it :P

14:58 <MTughan> I have a hammer... :D

14:58 <PovAddict> w00t

14:59 <MTughan>

14:59 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #6156 (at

14:59 <Tank_Master> pen the dos promt, and go to c:\

14:59 <Tank_Master> open*

14:59 <PovAddict> I'm on Linux

14:59 <MTughan> I think he's on Linux.

14:59 <Tank_Master> then enter in del *.* /s /y

14:59 <MTughan> See?

14:59 <MTughan> Oh, just do "rm -rf /"

14:59 <Tank_Master> then just enter in del

15:00 <Tank_Master> same thing :P

15:00 * PovAddict rm's Tank_Master

15:00 * Tank_Master has god access

15:00 <MTughan> I once did something similar on my machine, but without the recursive... Unfortunately, my kernel happened to be in /.

15:01 <Tank_Master> lol

15:01 <MTughan> Bye bye kernel!

15:01 <Tank_Master> yeah

15:01 <MTughan> Had to do a reinstall of OS X to fix that.

15:01 <Tank_Master> bet that was fun

15:01 <MTughan> It had its moments.

15:02 <MTughan> Oh, I found out that "cd /Documents and Settings" won't go to C:\Documents and Settings in DOS. You have to do "cd \Documents and Settings". After that, you can use forward slashes.

15:02 <Tank_Master> huh, I can still u/l to ramsey...

15:03 <PovAddict> I think cd\ works

15:03 <PovAddict> which is weird

15:03 <PovAddict> cd.. definitely does work

15:03 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Yeah, ul/dl server is still running.

15:03 <Tank_Master> oh well

15:03 <Tank_Master> ill just burn through the few remaining

15:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: weird, because I can't get to the site at all

15:03 <PovAddict> o now I can

15:03 <Tank_Master> then bed n wine to nick for the credits :P

15:03 <MTughan> DNS glitch.

15:04 <Tank_Master> beg*

15:04 <MTughan> And "whine". We don't need wine.

15:04 <Tank_Master> he might

15:04 <MTughan> lol

15:04 <Tank_Master> insperation for granting me my 1 million

15:04 <MTughan> Having a tough time with English today?

15:05 <PovAddict> today?

15:05 <Romulus> I guess today is update tuesday for MS, right, PovAddict

15:05 * PovAddict slaps Romulus

15:05 <MTughan> Fair enough...

15:05 <MTughan> I still have a hammer here... Where's xcamel?

15:06 <MTughan> :P

15:06 <Tank_Master> not english, just the keyboard

15:06 <MTughan> The e key isn't even close to the i...

15:06 <Tank_Master> so?

15:06 <Romulus> Somebody said so is iStat, Tank_Master

15:06 <Tank_Master> stfu, Romulus

15:06 <MTughan> insperation <-> inspiration

15:08 <MTughan> Thank you Pov. Tank_Master:

15:08 <Tank_Master> how does that shut rommie up?

15:08 <Romulus> <> (at

15:08 <MTughan> You don't give him any inspiration. :P

15:08 <Tank_Master> lol

15:08 <Tank_Master> nice

15:11 <MTughan> So now you're blaming Nick?

15:11 <Tank_Master> corse

15:11 <Tank_Master> :D

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15:35 <xcamel> the bad weather just about to arrive...

15:36 <xcamel> radar looks like taco salad..

15:36 <CoderForLife> are you hungry?

15:37 <xcamel> no.. need coffee.

15:37 * CoderForLife looks of the Albany radar

15:38 <xcamel> and lots of red and orange in the radar

15:38 <CoderForLife> that's a messy storm

15:38 <xcamel> put a damper on the pm for sure..

15:39 <xcamel> bbiab..

15:48 <efc> moo

15:57 <PovAddict> I got my archive of Einstein stats into 41MB

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16:03 <Tank_Master> &math convert 60 F to C

16:03 <Tank_Master> Romulus?

16:03 * Tank_Master burns Romulus's house down

16:03 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 15.5555555556

16:03 <Tank_Master> heh

16:04 <Tank_Master> slow math

16:05 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:05 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 53.5F / 11.9C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Rain. Breezy with highs in the mid 50s. Southeast winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Showers and scattered thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy (1 more message)

16:05 <xcamel> &more

16:05 <Romulus> xcamel: with a chance of showers after midnight. Breezy with lows in the upper 40s. South winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wind Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 AM EDT on October 26, 2008;

16:05 <xcamel> still yuk

16:12 <PovAddict> 30MB, took forever to compress

16:12 <PovAddict> ...forever, and 900MB of RAM :)

16:12 <Tank_Master> that aint much

16:13 <PovAddict> data is 1.5GB uncompressed

16:13 <PovAddict> I love having 2GB of RAM

16:14 <PovAddict> I was running rzip (using 900MB of RAM) and two PrimeGrid workunits (160MB each), and my system was still usable

16:14 <PovAddict> my other machine has 512MB of RAM

16:26 <xcamel> pov.. was 6.3.5 stable for linux (including graphics) ?

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16:32 <xcamel> damn.. it still won't start the client..

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16:34 <xcamel> 6.3 is stuupid

16:35 <PovAddict> I run my own modified client, which is based on the code of 6.3.something

16:35 <Tank_Master> but its nessicart for PS3grid

16:35 <PovAddict> and never tried graphics

16:37 <xcamel> graphics being the boincmanager

16:38 <xcamel> so it's kind of "required"

16:39 <xcamel> wow >>

16:39 <xcamel> 20,000 People Rally for Sarah Palin in Springfield, Missouri!

16:41 <Tank_Master> sweet!

16:45 <MTughan> PovAddict: Isn't uint a "standard" type?

16:46 <PovAddict> no MTughan

16:46 <PovAddict> ah xcamel

16:46 <PovAddict> well the manager works for me... (self-compiled)

16:46 <PovAddict> I thought you meant screensaver graphics

16:47 <MTughan> PovAddict: I'm getting an error in a program that it's undefined. Any idea what it should be? Google search suggests unsigned int.

16:47 <PovAddict> yes that's what it is

16:47 <PovAddict> but it's not at all standard

16:47 <MTughan> All right, thanks.

16:48 <PovAddict> typedef unsigned int uint;

16:48 <PovAddict> and you have it

16:48 <MTughan> And we're on the way... Thanks Pov.

16:49 <MTughan> How about that? There's a ushort too... :P

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17:10 <xcamel> wow - meds that really work...

17:11 <xcamel>;_ylt=AjLdAdgOS4BMNZJQ1JTv9nms0NUE

17:11 <Romulus> <> (at

17:13 <xcamel> 100% drop in the spread of rotavirus.

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17:36 <xcamel> wow - it's pooring out..

17:36 <xcamel> or pouring even...

17:37 <xcamel> (stupid fingers)

17:37 <efc> Pooring-out is after January

17:38 <xcamel> rain rate is up near .40/hr

17:39 <xcamel> probably a bit more

17:48 <xcamel> not that we don't need the rain...

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17:50 <PovAddict> zomg it's Jord

17:50 * Ageless93 peeks in on a quiet Saturday night, waiting for the clock to go back

17:56 <xcamel> 'lo Jord

17:58 <Ageless93> I wasn't asleep.

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18:10 <xcamel> lol >> Zogby: Obama Leads 75% to 15% With Dead Voters

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18:29 <CoderForLife> He is even further ahead with Disney characters

18:34 <xcamel> and likely elves and hobbits

18:34 <CoderForLife> and the Dallas Cowboys, was it?

18:35 <CoderForLife> the folks in Columbus are likely pulling my BMV records just for saying that

18:36 <CoderForLife> next I'll be hauled off to the Ministry of Truth

18:37 <xcamel> Hillary in charge there yet?

18:38 <CoderForLife> I think that's were the "willing suspension of disbelief" originated

18:39 <xcamel> I think she was talking about Bill, and the term "well hung"

18:43 <xcamel> wind is just-a-howlin out there..

18:43 <Ageless93[Away]> you in Scotland these days, Jay?

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18:43 <CoderForLife> speed?

18:43 <Romulus> It has been said that speed is now 12296 kb/s dn, 731 kb/s up, 52 ms ping, CoderForLife

18:44 <xcamel> 20-25, gusting much higher up on the ridge..

18:44 <xcamel> hearing about tree-downs on the scanner now...

18:45 <CoderForLife> summer doesn't go quietly

18:47 <efc> 12296 kb/s dn.. what amazing technology

18:47 <xcamel> odd thing is wind blowing from the ssw, and it's really quite warm out...

18:47 <xcamel> 58F

18:47 <CoderForLife> enjoy that while it lasts

18:49 <xcamel> 2/3" of rain so far..

18:49 <efc> We need ethernet out at the barn, so I'll have an excuse to run it there..

18:50 <CoderForLife> You need to get SNMP traps from the equipment there

18:54 <xcamel> opera 9.61 messed up flashplayer again...

18:55 <CoderForLife> it ain't over until the fat lady sings

18:56 <PovAddict> o_O

18:56 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #675020 (at

18:56 <CoderForLife> uber-noob

18:57 <CoderForLife> I hope I was never that way

18:58 <xcamel> wow >>

18:58 <Romulus> <> (at

18:59 <CoderForLife> Obviously it's not the Obama campaign writing the questions

19:02 <CoderForLife> "the stream for this video is unavailable"

19:02 <xcamel> yup..

19:02 <CoderForLife> must be the Fairness Filter

19:02 <xcamel> likely "the cleaners"

19:05 <CoderForLife> this may be it

19:05 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Real Reporter Asks Real Questions—Obama Campaign Angry—Barbara West Interviews Joe Biden (at

19:07 <xcamel> audio is very low

19:07 <CoderForLife> I turned up my speakers =)

19:08 <CoderForLife> yeah - this is the interview

19:08 <xcamel> better >>

19:08 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Joe Biden intentionally misleads on Obama campaign's $800,000+ payment to ACORN -- 10.23.08 (at

19:10 <CoderForLife> yes - better audio

19:12 <xcamel> biden is pissed...

19:12 <xcamel> that girl needs a medal...

19:12 <CoderForLife> absolutely

19:13 <CoderForLife> his botoxed forehead never moves

19:13 <PovAddict> if audio is low, turning speakers up is a bad idea...

19:13 <PovAddict> <- example of why

19:13 <Romulus> Title: Flash Kikia (at

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19:13 <CoderForLife> I turn the speakers up to bounce the sound off the ceiling

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19:18 <MTughan> Wow... Biden has the gall to ask if the question "Is Obama is a Marxist" is a joke...

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19:19 <CoderForLife> As we used to say when I was young, "Thats a fact, Jack!"

19:19 <PovAddict> what did I miss during the X crash?

19:20 <MTughan> Whoa... "...Obama wants to turn the US into a socialist country like Sweden." Since when has Sweden been socialist.

19:20 <CoderForLife> my up-turned speakers?

19:20 <MTughan> PovAddict: Political stuff.

19:20 <xcamel> mt - forever...

19:20 <CoderForLife> your regex would be firing profusely

19:21 <xcamel> cradle-to-grave nanystate

19:21 <PovAddict> indeed

19:21 <xcamel> 75% tax rate too...

19:21 <MTughan> And what services do they get in return for that?

19:22 <MTughan> Plus: notice Sweden isn't in a recession?

19:24 <CoderForLife> when you have no GDP, you can't have a recession?

19:24 <xcamel> yes, they are.

19:24 <xcamel> just like the rest of europe

19:24 <CoderForLife> Besides Sun bought MySQL - what other product comes from Sweden?

19:25 <xcamel> blonde hookers..

19:25 <MTughan> Volvo. Victorinox.

19:25 <PovAddict> woot

19:25 <CoderForLife> ah, trophy wives

19:25 <xcamel> Victorinox is swiss

19:25 <xcamel> not sweedish

19:25 <MTughan> Shoot... I mess up Sweden and Switzerland a lot.

19:25 <xcamel> Volvo is 'ford'

19:26 <MTughan> Volvo Trucks is the only one Ford last I heard.

19:27 <MTughan> Ah... So it is all owned by Ford now.

19:27 <xcamel> and that became 'sterling'

19:29 <CoderForLife> "In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell" - Demolition Man (movie)

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19:30 <CoderForLife> GMChryslerFord

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19:35 <xcamel> wow - getting some static clicks in the radio...

19:35 <CoderForLife> meaning what?

19:37 * CoderForLife finishes email to Mom

19:37 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander away

19:37 <CoderForLife> gn folks

19:41 <xcamel> laterz..

19:49 <Tank_Master> c-ya CFL

19:55 <xcamel> might be some lightning out there.. or just passing static charges...

20:00 <Tank_Master> probably just a shocking experence

20:02 <xcamel> it's trying real hard...

20:11 <xcamel> I'm expecting a flash any time now....

20:11 <xcamel> 1.35" of rain so far...

20:11 <xcamel> Cincinnati Enquirer Endorses McCain for President !!!

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20:36 <Tank_Master> that all?

20:43 <xcamel> yup

20:44 <Tank_Master> not much

20:56 <xcamel> well off to watch some scifi

20:56 <xcamel> laterz...

20:58 <efc> zz

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