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00:41 <Soul_keeper> "william ayers is my best friend, i'm telling you this because i'm so far ahead in the polls it's not gonna matter!!" --obama snl
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01:11 <efc> moo
01:12 <efc> I have the Denethor attitude now
01:12 <Soul_keeper> &dict Denethor
01:12 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: No definition for "Denethor" could be found.
01:12 <Soul_keeper> &urbandict Denethor
01:12 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
01:14 <efc> the one from LOTR
01:15 <Soul_keeper> &urbandict LOTR
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01:15 <Soul_keeper> yeah you're speaking spanish
01:15 <efc> lord of the rings
01:16 <efc> in the movie, denethor gives up, and eats grapes while the city is attacked
01:16 <efc> though in the book he is more proactive
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03:20 <Tidus> hooray
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03:24 <MTughan> Well that was fun...
03:24 <MTughan> Fire alarm. At 3AM!
03:24 <Tidus> lol that sucks
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03:25 <Tidus> when i was in college they ALWAYS did that on finals
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03:25 <Tidus> hi KathrynM
03:25 <MTughan> Out for 20 minutes... At least it stopped raining.
03:25 <Tidus> MTughan: i got me a new toy to play with :)
03:26 <MTughan> That would be...
03:26 <Tidus> HP Pavilion dv8327cl. Core 2 Duo T5500 (1.66ghz, 2mb, 667 fsb), 2gb ram, 2x100gb disk, 17" widescreen, geforce 7600 go video
03:26 <MTughan> Desktop machine?
03:26 <Tidus> laptop
03:26 <MTughan> 2x 100GB HDs? How big is this thing?
03:27 <Tidus> well, it's got a 17" widescreen mounted to it
03:28 <Tidus> it weighs about 9lb
03:28 <MTughan> I'd prefer my new laptop... Core 2 Duo T9400 (2.53GHz, 6MB, 1066 FSB), 2GB RAM, 160GB 7200rpm HD, 14" widescreen, and ATI HD3470 graphics.
03:28 <MTughan> 5.5lbs.
03:28 <Tidus> that aint bad, but how much did you pay for it?
03:28 <MTughan> $1600.
03:28 <Tidus> <-- $0
03:28 <MTughan> That would explain the GeForce 7600 graphics...
03:29 <Tidus> the nvidia 7600 was roughly equivalent to the ati x1k series
03:29 <MTughan> I had a 9600 series in my old desktop.
03:29 <MTughan> Radeon 9600 that is...
03:30 <Tidus> the nvidia 7600 is roughly equivalent to an ati x1600
03:30 <MTughan> Still older than mine. Although better than the Mac's card: Intel GMA950. Piece of sh*t.
03:30 <Tidus> my desktop has an nvidia 6600 in it, my old desktop had an ati x1950xt
03:31 <Tidus> and you're talking old mac if it's got the GMA950
03:31 <Tidus> the last white macbooks had the GMAx3100
03:31 <MTughan> I'm wanting to make a new desktop next summer, a power machine that won't go out for a good 4-5 years.
03:32 <MTughan> Yes, this is a 1st gen MacBook. Although from what I heard, the x3100s were a step back, so I got it when it was all right. Don't have the C2D processor though.
03:32 <Tidus> the x3100 is actually faster than the GMA950
03:32 <MTughan> Still doesn't mean overall performance boost.
03:33 <Tidus> this laptop had a pentium dual-core T2300 in it when i got it
03:33 <Tidus> what happened is a lady brought it to me to fix, and it had a fried video card
03:33 <MTughan> Anyway... If I were building a new system today, I'd be looking at either a Nvidia 9800 series or AT Radeon HD4800 series card.
03:33 <MTughan> ATI*
03:34 <Tidus> and since HP soldered the graphics to the mainboard
03:34 <Tidus> it needed the whole new mainboard
03:34 <MTughan> Yep...
03:34 <Tidus> i quoted the price to fix it, which was $400 plus my labor
03:34 <Tidus> she said keep it
03:34 <MTughan> Nice...
03:34 <MTughan> Attach it to BOINC, that many more credits. :P
03:34 <Tidus> and my friend had one similar that had a fried screen and keyboard
03:35 <Tidus> so he gave it to me, used the processor and mainboard out of his
03:36 <Tidus> now i have a decent laptop that beats the pants off my desktop
03:36 <MTughan> Both are still old systems.
03:36 <Tidus> yeah, it's a bit older but still runs ok
03:36 <Tidus> and not bad for free
03:37 <MTughan> I used to have a P4 Prescott @ 2.8GHz with 1GB RAM. Wasn't bad, but the MacBook tops it quite handily for BOINC performance.
03:37 <MTughan> OC'd to 3.15GHz.
03:37 <Tidus> and linux has drivers for the intel a/b/g wireless card built in
03:38 <Tidus> my desktop is a single core athlon64 3500 (socket AM2, 2.2ghz OC'd to 2.6) with 3gb ram
03:38 <MTughan> That is the thing about older systems... Kernel doesn't have drivers for my a/b/g/n wireless yet.
03:39 <Tidus> i'm happy with it
03:39 <Tidus> can't afford anything brand new that could beat it
03:39 <MTughan> For free? For sure.
03:39 <Tidus> any laptop that i could afford would easily be swallowed by this thing
03:39 <Tidus> in either processor, video, or both
03:39 <MTughan> Just a bit of labour on your part, and you have a newer laptop.
03:40 <MTughan> Although laptops are trickier than desktops...
03:40 <Tidus> yeah, a bit of labor as in completely re-assembling the whole damn thing from a box of parts :P
03:41 <MTughan> lol
03:42 <Tidus> battery sucks
03:42 <Tidus> due to massive screen, 2 hdds...
03:42 <Tidus> it'll run just short of 2h before petering out
03:43 <MTughan> Hehe... I can get 6+ hours out of this one.
03:43 <Tidus> if i broke the raid that was pre-set on its disks, i could run it off just one so the other would shut down
03:43 <MTughan> Why don't you? Performance?
03:44 <Tidus> yeah
03:44 <MTughan> Well, I should ask... RAID 0 or 1?
03:44 <Tidus> 1 for /boot and (root), 0 for /home
03:44 <Tidus> software raid
03:44 <MTughan> Ah...
03:44 <MTughan> So stability for /boot and performance for /home... What about /usr?
03:45 <Tidus> it's not on separate partition
03:45 <Tidus> so it's on the / partition
03:45 <MTughan> Oh, /boot and /... Okay.
03:45 <Tidus> which is raid 1
03:45 <MTughan> Sorry, I skipped over (root) before.
03:45 <Tidus> lol
03:45 <Tidus> most people get a tad confused when i just put "/" so i type (root)
03:46 <MTughan> I would imagine most people don't work in a command-line day in and day out though.
03:46 <Tidus> yeah
03:46 <Tidus> i do a fair bit of audio and video editing under linux, that's why /home is on raid0
03:47 <MTughan> Yeah, RAID 0 would definitely help there. Just hope the disks are up to par.
03:47 <Tidus> i've set the temporary directory for the programs i use to ~/tmp
03:47 <Tidus> and i exhaustively read/write tested them before installing
03:47 <MTughan> That's good.
03:48 <Tidus> and they are a matched pair of disks
03:48 <MTughan> If I had a bit of money, I might look into a RAID 10 setup.
03:48 <Tidus> raid5 works perfectly if you need striping and redundancy
03:48 <MTughan> Whether 1+0 or 0+1 would have to be determined.
03:48 <MTughan> Or 5 too. I had looked at that before.
03:48 <Tidus> 5 works wonders
03:48 <Tidus> that's what mystorage server runs on its 3x250 storage array
03:48 <MTughan> 3 disks minimum, right?
03:49 <Tidus> and yeah, 3 disks minimum
03:49 <MTughan> I believe 10 is 4 disks.
03:49 <Tidus> yeah, 10 needs 4 minimum
03:49 <Tidus> 5 only needs 3 for redundancy
03:49 <Tidus> you can set the array up in "failed" mode with only 2 disks
03:50 <Tidus> when you add the third it'll re-stripe and provide redundancy
03:50 <MTughan> Yeah. I'd have to stack up the advantages, and whether I'd need a RAID array. Hard disks can still eat up costs.
03:50 <MTughan> Although with terabyte drives available for $140 (I know!), it's not as much of a cost now.
03:50 <Tidus> i use 5 on my storage server because i save finished video projects that my customers have me do for a short period in case i have to fix something or they need more copies
03:51 <Tidus> i mostly edit wedding videos or birthday party videos
03:51 <MTughan> Wouldn't a faster processor help then? And definitely more RAM for video editors.
03:52 <Tidus> you'd be surprised how much disk performance factors in on that one
03:52 <Tidus> even with a raid-0 on /home, i can't peg out the processor
03:52 <MTughan> I wouldn't be surprised, but rendering an effect or movie would be hard on the processor.
03:52 <MTughan> iMovie maxes out my dual-core 2.0GHz.
03:52 <Tidus> yeah, that does take a bit of time
03:53 <Tidus> your average birthday video of 30 minutes takes about an hour 15 to an hour 30 to render
03:53 <MTughan> For just the editing, RAM and disk performance are key. Rendering needs more CPU, although lots of RAM is still helpful to prevent swapping.
03:54 <MTughan> Do you edit HD or SD video?
03:54 <Tidus> just SD
03:54 <Tidus> where i live, it's just your average redneck with a camcorder and he wants it turned into something presentable
03:54 <MTughan> I'd hate to see how long 720p video takes compared to the SD... Let along 1080p. xD
03:54 <MTughan> lol
03:54 <Tidus> yeah, ouch
03:54 <Tidus> i'd need a mac pro for that
03:54 <Tidus> :) :)
03:55 <MTughan> I wish...
03:55 <MTughan> Maybe you can contract out zombie's 8-core.
03:55 <Tidus> 8 cores of xeon power :) ... 8 gb of ram
03:55 <Soul_keeper> you don't _need_ a mac for anything
03:55 <MTughan> They go up to 32GB.
03:55 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: You do if you want to get it done in a lifetime.
03:56 <Tidus> macs were meant for graphics work
03:56 <Tidus> like video / audio / photo editing
03:56 <Soul_keeper> they use the same cpu as a pc
03:56 <MTughan> You call dual Xeon processors the same as a PC? Maybe a server, but not a consumer PC.
03:56 <Tidus> but not the same basic IO system
03:56 <Tidus> PCs still use BIOS (old, 30 years old), wehre macs use EFI
03:56 <Tidus> much more efficient
03:57 <MTughan> They just recently switched, but they do.
03:58 <MTughan> Although I have had the MB in this Mac fail three times.
03:59 <MTughan> Wow... Almost 4AM. I should be off to bed.
03:59 <Tidus> lol
03:59 <Tidus> especially after that FIRE ALARM
04:00 <MTughan> Fire alarm at 3:06AM, we got back in at 3:28AM, and I've been talking on IRC for half an hour.
04:00 <Tidus> lol
04:00 <MTughan> One thing though: at least the rain earlier stopped.
04:00 <Tidus> that's a good thing
04:00 <Tidus> it's just really cold here
04:01 <Tidus> &weather 72764
04:01 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 50.4°F / 10.2°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 94.0mph / 151.3km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 40s. South winds around 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 70. Southwest winds around 10 mph shifting to the northwest up to 10 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday Night - Mostly (1 more message)
04:01 <Tidus> &more
04:01 <Romulus> Tidus: clear. Lows in the lower 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.;
04:01 <MTughan> We're currently sitting at 6C/43F.
04:01 <Tidus> i'm probably about 2000 miles south of you too
04:01 <Tidus> lol
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04:01 <Tidus> &zipinfo 72764
04:01 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Springdale; State: AR; County: Washington; Area Code: 479; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 36.1771 (North); Longitude: 94.0897 (West)
04:01 <MTughan> Wow, that's some strong wind...
04:02 <Tidus> LOL
04:02 <Tidus> i just seen that
04:02 <Tidus> the stations probably off
04:02 <Tidus> i just opened my front door and theres like no wind
04:04 <MTughan> You're about 1200mi/1900km from me.
04:04 <MTughan> &weather YOW
04:04 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM EDT; Tonight - Rain ending this evening then cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Becoming cloudy periods overnight. Amount 30 to 40 mm(1.2 to 1.6 in). Low 4C(39F).; Sunday - Cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers in (1 more message)
04:04 <MTughan> &more
04:04 <Romulus> MTughan: the morning and early in the afternoon. Showers beginning in the afternoon. Wind becoming south 20 km/h (12 mph) in the afternoon. High 10C(50F). Sunday night showers. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 6C(43F).; Monday - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of showers. High 7C(45F).;
04:05 <MTughan> Ouch... High of 7C/45F on Monday. That's cold.
04:06 <Tidus> yeah, just a bit nippy
04:08 <FreeLarry> &wx 98366
04:08 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Temperature: 44.8°F / 7.1°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. Areas of morning fog. Highs in the upper 50s to mid 60s. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly (1 more message)
04:08 <FreeLarry> &more
04:08 <Romulus> FreeLarry: clear. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. Northeast wind to 10 mph.;
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04:58 <CoderForLife> oh wow
04:58 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
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06:14 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 42.8°F / 6.0°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.3mph / 8.5km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain (1 more message)
06:14 <CoderForLife> &more
06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: showers in the afternoon. Much cooler with highs in the mid 40s. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;
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07:59 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13285
08:01 <CoderForLife> interesting, Soul_keeper
08:01 <Soul_keeper> i guess it was only a matter of time
08:02 <Soul_keeper> just someone else is getting 10k a pop ...
08:02 <CoderForLife> yup
08:02 <Soul_keeper> i'll be a success in the next life
08:03 * CoderForLife Codes in this life
08:03 <Welshman> me too
08:04 <Welshman> I made too many mistakes early on
08:04 <Welshman> hindsight eh!
08:04 <CoderForLife> 20/20 hindsight
08:05 <CoderForLife> I have trouble predicting the future - I am much better at predicting the past
08:05 <Soul_keeper> :)
08:06 * CoderForLife works on the Code to optimize his 401K mutual fund selections, based on past performance
08:06 <Soul_keeper> excellent
08:07 <CoderForLife> this year is very challenging to my model
08:07 <Soul_keeper> it's challenging to everyone
08:07 <Soul_keeper> they all lost faith, just pure panic, human nature is the only true guage
08:08 <CoderForLife> as soon as the model decides to move in, >blammo<
08:09 <CoderForLife> back-testing the current model shows a hypothetical gain of 2.6% this year
08:09 <Soul_keeper> everything always makes sense when you back test it ....
08:10 <Soul_keeper> politicians love to do that
08:11 <Soul_keeper> i gotta fall asleep, good luck
08:11 <CoderForLife> thx tc
08:13 <CoderForLife> my actual gain this year-to-date is 1.1%
08:14 <CoderForLife> in the 401K account, that is
08:14 <CoderForLife> the wall was been all "loss"
08:15 <Soul_keeper> don't forget inflation :)
08:16 <Romulus> Title: St. Louis Fed: Economic Data - FRED (at research.stlouisfed.org)
08:18 <xcamel> 'lo
08:18 <CoderForLife> morning Jay
08:18 <CoderForLife> thx Soul_keeper - I am using several years worth of data from the mutual funds available in my 401K
08:19 <Soul_keeper> http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/CPILFENS.txt those are the CPI numbers (less food/energy) might be able to parse those with a script
08:20 <CoderForLife> I get all my data by parsing HTML screen scrapes
08:21 <Soul_keeper> looks like we've averaged 4.8% annual inflation according to that data over the last 20yrs
08:22 <CoderForLife> that means that I simply have to be a better investor =)
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08:23 <Soul_keeper> they are saying we are in/entering a "deflationary recession" i don't believe that for a minute
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08:24 <CoderForLife> damn Miranduh tab bug
08:24 <CoderForLife> this is good data, S<tab>oul_keeper
08:25 <Soul_keeper> :)
08:26 <Romulus> Title: Shadow Government Statistics - Home Page (at www.shadowstats.com)
08:26 <Soul_keeper> they estimate it about 3% higher it seems
08:27 <CoderForLife> I track a lot of data pertinent to the funds available to me
08:28 <Romulus> Title: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) - bea.gov Home Page (at www.bea.gov)
08:28 <CoderForLife> unit values, exponential moving averages, relative strength index, etc
08:29 <Soul_keeper> those can be usefull during stabile times i suppose, i tend to mostly pay attention to human nature and sentiment
08:29 <Soul_keeper> fear is the rule of hand right now :)
08:30 <CoderForLife> my model is fairly cautious, and is largely momentum-driven
08:30 <Soul_keeper> nice
08:30 <Soul_keeper> do you use support/resistance ?
08:31 <CoderForLife> from an RSI perspective, yes
08:31 <CoderForLife> no Bollinger Bands here
08:31 <CoderForLife> RSI is a factor in the buy/sell rules
08:33 <CoderForLife> if I use the model for individual stocks, then I can also use money flow as a decsision criteria
08:33 <Romulus> Title: Constant Risk Trading (at crswingtrader.com)
08:33 <Soul_keeper> not for investors tho
08:33 <CoderForLife> no volume data for the mutual funds, so no money flow calcs
08:35 <Soul_keeper> with the ticker you can get a log of daily volume from finance.yahoo.com also
08:35 <CoderForLife> the funds are not available publically
08:35 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
08:35 <Soul_keeper> closed-end ?
08:35 <xcamel> "Ohio Home Explodes While Owner Out Running Errands"
08:36 <CoderForLife> there may be parallel funds traded
08:36 <xcamel> oops..
08:36 <CoderForLife> he was having furnace problems, and went to buy an electirc heater
08:36 <CoderForLife> "turned off the gas to the furnace"
08:37 <CoderForLife> we pop a house every few years around here
08:37 <CoderForLife> I expect a few more this winter with all the empty foreclosed houses
08:38 <Soul_keeper> welp ttyl
08:38 <CoderForLife> cya Soul_keeper
08:38 <CoderForLife> thx
08:48 <xcamel> oh crap..
08:48 <xcamel> TV Anchorwoman Dies After Beating
08:48 <CoderForLife> yeah, very bad stuff
08:49 <xcamel> geeez...
08:49 <xcamel> she had a bit part in the movie "W"
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09:28 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 October 26 - Massive Stars in Open Cluster Pismis 24 (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
09:28 <xcamel> wowza..
09:28 <CoderForLife> yeah, knocked my socks off this morning
09:30 <CoderForLife> as it turns out, a repeat from 12/19/2006, but still wow
09:31 <xcamel> they recycle the best ones now and then
09:43 <xcamel> ET!! ET!!
09:45 <CoderForLife> was Biden campaigning in the area?
09:48 <xcamel> in that case, they would be exiting earth, failing to find any intelligent life.
09:49 <CoderForLife> they taking passengers?
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09:51 <xcamel> sadly, no.
09:51 <CoderForLife> I see zombie67 is on board
09:51 <xcamel> only Gomer Gummer's goats.
09:53 <CoderForLife> going to do some chores: put the birdfeeders back up (taken doen for construction", try to free up the walkout basement screen door where the patio installers cemented it closed
09:53 <CoderForLife> bbl
09:54 <xcamel> Obama supporter...
09:55 <CoderForLife> looney too
09:55 <CoderForLife> laterz
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12:48 <xcamel> re-banck
12:48 <xcamel> re-back even
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14:44 <Tank_Master> re-wb
14:44 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with a time stamp
14:45 <xcamel> lol
14:45 * Tank_Master slamps wdsmia with a time warp singularity
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15:00 <FreeLarry> humm whats the word on boincmanager 6.3.17? worth testing?
15:00 <PovAddict> heh xcamel will tell you :)
15:00 <FreeLarry> humm PovAddict with a comment like that - sounds like not
15:00 <Tank_Master> in my experence? not one bit
15:01 <Tank_Master> I have used it
15:01 <Tank_Master> for all of 5 min
15:01 <Tank_Master> then went back to .14
15:01 <FreeLarry> kay - sounds like i'll just update to 6.2.19 than
15:01 <PovAddict> FreeLarry: what version do you currently have?
15:01 <FreeLarry> just noticed most of machines at 6.2.6 or .12
15:01 <Tank_Master> unless you NEED v6, id stay away from it
15:01 <FreeLarry> not sure of linux machines
15:02 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: are you suggesting he goes back to 5.10.45?
15:02 <PovAddict> <.<
15:02 <Tank_Master> I only have 6.3.14 on my GPU comp
15:02 <FreeLarry> controlling 4 machines from one machine
15:02 <Tank_Master> all my others are 5.10.45
15:02 <PovAddict> 6.2 isn't *too* bad
15:02 <Tank_Master> 5.10 is better though
15:02 <PovAddict> at least compared to all the new brokenness in 6.3
15:02 <Tank_Master> MUSH more stable and predictable
15:02 <Tank_Master> yeah
15:02 <FreeLarry> 5.10.45 didn't work on the vista machine at all it seemed
15:03 <Tank_Master> sucks you must use 6.3 for GPU apps
15:03 <PovAddict> well duh
15:03 <Tank_Master> try installinh 5.10 into its own directory
15:03 <FreeLarry> ahh haven't got gpu apps that i know of
15:03 <Tank_Master> right now, only PS3grid has a GPU app for some GeForce 880s and higher
15:03 <Tank_Master> 8800s*
15:10 <FreeLarry> humm to new for most of my vid card
15:11 <FreeLarry> PovAddict should know on monday wether or not have thelinux machine sold so may want to move your files to another machine
15:12 <FreeLarry> you have accounts on the other 2 linux machines
15:14 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
15:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 49.3°F / 9.6°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 16.0mph / 25.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. Very windy. Cooler. High in the upper 40s. Northwest wind 35 to 40 mph with gusts to around 60 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Windy...colder. Low in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts (1 more message)
15:14 <wdsmia> &more
15:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: to around 50 mph decreasing to 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph after midnight.; Monday - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; High Wind Warning for Polk County in effect until 8:00 PM CDT on October 26, 2008;
15:15 <FreeLarry> howdy doug
15:15 <wdsmia> *lo Larry
15:16 <FreeLarry> humm one mahcine acting funny so doing a restore to earlier
15:16 <FreeLarry> has been on a few japenese sites so maybe something in it i don't want
15:17 <wdsmia> sushi?
15:20 <FreeLarry> could be - could also be the drawing pad software - going back 2 days now - something causing java blocks to prevent trend micro from running
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15:24 <FreeLarry> needed to reinstall the last security update after that restore
15:25 <FreeLarry> wonder if it caused the java faults
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15:49 <FreeLarry> humm maybe java plugin corrupted? trend works on this machine but not that one
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15:57 <FreeLarry> humm java corruption appears to be it
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16:02 <efc> moo
16:03 <FreeLarry> maawwwwahhhaaahhaaa
16:04 <FreeLarry> oh darn time to do dailies and get ready for commute
16:04 <FreeLarry> &tca
16:04 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Are you daft?
16:04 <FreeLarry> as a drunken bat Romulus
16:04 <FreeLarry> &bye all
16:04 <Romulus> later ace
16:08 <efc> &weather 30625
16:08 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Monday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.; Wind Advisory for Morgan (1 more message)
16:09 <efc> &more
16:09 <Romulus> efc: County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on October 27, 2008; Fire Weather Warning for Morgan County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on October 27, 2008;
16:43 <xcamel> re-hi
16:44 <efc> Moo xcamel
16:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 4.8MB to megabits
16:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: 4.8 megabytes = 38.4 megabits
16:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 100 megabits / second to MB/s
16:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: 100 (megabits / second) = 12.5 MB / s
17:00 <xcamel> chirp.
17:00 <xcamel> welcome to idiot hunter season...
17:00 <efc> Ugh.
17:01 * FreeLarry is that a crow - look for bb pistols
17:01 <efc> I'm having to find a new route to run, decided not to risk the national forest
17:01 <FreeLarry> quick hide the cows
17:01 <efc> 2 gig micro SD card in the GPS now.. $5
17:05 <efc> And there was only 2 megs on it..
17:06 <PovAddict> $5 for 2 gig?
17:06 <PovAddict> hope prices aren't linear
17:06 <PovAddict> $500 for 200gig :)
17:07 <PovAddict> a bit of a waste for 2 megs though
17:07 <efc> They are worse than that
17:07 <efc> I figured I'd go ahead and buy it before they got rare or something
17:07 <PovAddict> you should use one of those 16MB SDs that come with digital cameras
17:07 <PovAddict> out of the box
17:08 <efc> 2 gig in 1 cm^2
17:08 <PovAddict> most of that cmÂ² is plastic though
17:08 <PovAddict> seen microSDs?
17:08 <efc> This is a microSD
17:08 <MTughan> Damn small.
17:08 <PovAddict> oic
17:09 <xcamel> msd's are a real pain
17:09 <efc> If I loaded high res topo of the state, it would probably surpass the original 64 meg card
17:09 <PovAddict> are there nanoSDs?
17:09 <efc> You'd need tweezers
17:09 <PovAddict> but you have dialup, you'd take forever to download it :)
17:09 <efc> You can order pre-programmed microSD's from Garmin, or DVDs, that would be the way to go..
17:10 <efc> And they make the MSDs at least as big as 8 gig but I think 2 was the limit for the device
17:12 <xcamel> I think my brain is going to melt...
17:12 <xcamel> this a$$h0l3 election season, then straight into xmas season.
17:13 <efc> I'm dreading XMAS radio already
17:13 <MTughan> Yes, you can get 8GB MicroSD cards.
17:14 <efc> I've got 5 1:24,000 topo quads on there and some tracks and stuff and its less than 2 meg
17:15 <xcamel> enjoy your sack of coal and hardtack of obomber wins.
17:15 <xcamel> er if, even
17:15 <CoderForLife> ah, a glorious autumn day
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17:17 <CoderForLife> got the bird feeders back up, fixed the screen door that the patio guys had cemented closed, and covered the A/C unit outside
17:17 <CoderForLife> productive and relaxing - sat for a long time on the new patio, watching the clouds drift by
17:17 <Soul_keeper> must be great ...
17:18 <CoderForLife> off to pick up some din-din - looks like the vote is for Steak-n-Shake
17:18 <xcamel> lol - I hate the MSM
17:18 <CoderForLife> they hate you too
17:18 <xcamel> "100,000" show up for obomber in denver...
17:18 <Soul_keeper> i went there once, was highly dissapointed when they didn't have steaks ...
17:18 <xcamel> No mention of the free santana concert at the same time...
17:19 <CoderForLife> that's been the pattern
17:19 <xcamel> (same crap he pulled in germany)
17:19 <CoderForLife> yes
17:20 <CoderForLife> off to hunt-and-gather dinner - bbl
17:20 <xcamel> wating on apple spice pancakes..
17:24 <Tank_Master> wating on pumpkin icecream
17:25 <xcamel> always good - if it's the real thing...
17:26 <Tank_Master> yeah
17:28 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
17:28 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 91.4°F / 33.0°C | Humidity: 20% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 53 to 63. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs 84 to 89 in the western valleys to 89 to 94 near the foothills. Light winds.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 54 to 64. Light winds.; (1 more message)
17:28 <Soul_keeper> hmmm back in the 90's it seems
17:29 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123
17:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 70.2°F / 21.2°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 70. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...east wind 20 to 25 mph increasing to 30 to 35 mph in the afternoon. Gusts to 40 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 35 to 45. Northeast (1 more message)
17:29 <Tank_Master> &more
17:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 15 to 30 mph near The Gorge.; Monday - Sunny. Highs 70 to 75. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
17:49 <xcamel> what a beautiful day it was - now predicting snow by tuesday...
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18:19 <CoderForLife> back
18:20 <CoderForLife> find any trespassing hunters today, xcamel?
18:21 <xcamel> evidence thereof...
18:21 <xcamel> pretty ballsy too..
18:21 <CoderForLife> oh?
18:21 <Romulus> hmm... oh is it like SocialBorg, CoderForLife
18:23 <xcamel> drove right in to an area I clearly have marked "no trespassing"
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18:26 <CoderForLife> I say the answer is Predator
18:32 <xcamel> drones?
18:32 <xcamel> with a helfire or two?
18:32 <MTughan> There are drones invading your property? lol
18:32 <CoderForLife> a proportionate response
18:32 <xcamel> that would be sweet!
18:33 <CoderForLife> look for heat signatures
18:33 <CoderForLife> jam it up the tail pipe
18:33 <MTughan> Well, I found a blog entry from 5 years ago that just about describes last night... http://chat.carleton.ca/~jsingh3/2004-1/fire_alarm.html
18:37 <CoderForLife> you're a false-file-alarm-a-phobe?
18:37 <MTughan> I didn't write that. Notice the date?
18:38 <MTughan> Oh, maybe you didn't hear... Fire alarm went off just after 3AM last night.
18:38 <CoderForLife> news to me
18:38 <Tank_Master> news to me
18:39 <CoderForLife> I must have slept through it
18:39 <MTughan> Is there an echo in here? :P
18:39 <MTughan> lol
18:39 <Tank_Master> lol
18:39 <Tank_Master> no
18:39 <CoderForLife> no
18:39 <MTughan> We were standing outside in 6C/43F weather for about 20 minutes.
18:39 <CoderForLife> sux
18:39 <Tank_Master> thats not bad
18:39 <efc> US strike inside Syria?
18:39 <Tank_Master> nice n brisk
18:39 <CoderForLife> yup efc
18:40 <efc> XCamel: "Trepassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again."
18:40 <MTughan> rofl
18:40 <efc> Sign seen in GTA3
18:42 <xcamel> "Tresspassers witl be VIOLATED!"
18:42 <CoderForLife> on my way back home, I had to stop in front of 2 houses with certain political signs in the front yard, and were also flying the flag - I couldn't get over the discord in the message they were sending
18:42 <xcamel> cognitive dissonance?
18:43 <xcamel> like the news reports...
18:43 <CoderForLife> yup
18:43 <CoderForLife> I stopped to see what they looked like
18:44 <CoderForLife> no dissonance in the signs in Jean Schmidt's yard
18:45 <CoderForLife> She was right about Murtha
18:47 <CoderForLife> you don't call your constituents names, Murtha
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18:50 <efc> 3.72 miles on new route, 30:27, didn't get shot
18:51 <CoderForLife> bragging or complaining?
18:51 <Tank_Master> uyes
18:51 <Tank_Master> yes*
18:57 <CoderForLife> which part>
18:57 <CoderForLife> er ?
18:57 <Romulus> It has been said that er is even, CoderForLife
19:02 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around with Windows Me
19:02 <xcamel> now theres an insult and a half.
19:03 <CoderForLife> I'd be ashamed to have a copy
19:03 <PovAddict> I have a copy of Win95 somewhere here
19:03 <CoderForLife> I have a few of those
19:03 <PovAddict> heh Encarta 99 DVD
19:03 <MTughan> rofl
19:04 <PovAddict> costed a lot back then
19:04 <CoderForLife> I have a couple Windows for Workgroups
19:04 <Tank_Master> :P
19:04 <CoderForLife> any need OS/2?
19:04 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I have floppies of Win3.1 and DOS6, but it's an incomplete set... :(
19:04 <CoderForLife> how about a copy of Excel for OS/2?
19:04 <MTughan> That's sad...
19:05 <CoderForLife> I have a full install of Novell NetWare
19:05 <PovAddict> I threw away a CD of Ubuntu 5.10 a few weeks ago
19:05 <xcamel> a copy of Enable for Dos?
19:05 <PovAddict> got WetWare?
19:05 <xcamel> (yes, I still have one)
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19:05 <CoderForLife> I have Lotus HAL for Lotus 1-2-3
19:05 <xcamel> Ok.. you win.
19:05 <CoderForLife> heh
19:06 <xcamel> I hated lotus.
19:06 <CoderForLife> I have shelves full of software from my Y2K company
19:06 <CoderForLife> The **only** thing I think I don't have is Windows Me
19:07 <xcamel> or BoB
19:07 <PovAddict> I have a scratched-beyond-readability CD of "3D Dinosaur Adventure"
19:07 <MTughan> My aunt used to have a computer with Me on it... It didn't stick around long before my dad replaced it with XP.
19:07 <CoderForLife> I think I have Bob
19:07 <PovAddict> IIRC, during install, it asks if your computer is 386 or 486
19:08 <CoderForLife> I think Bob was the quickest install/uninstall I ever did
19:09 <CoderForLife> Second was ALICE the Pascal compiler
19:09 <MTughan> My dad, named Bob, has a CD from a band called BoB...
19:09 <MTughan> Just this random stuff you come upon once in a while.
19:09 <Tank_Master> I got rid of my windows ME beta 1 CD just a week ago
19:10 <MTughan> I have a Vista Beta 2 DVD at home... I should snap it in half.
19:12 * CoderForLife tried Vista, and snapped
19:13 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: do ALICE and Bob send each other encrypted stuff?
19:13 <MTughan> Why do you think I insisted on an XP downgrade for my laptop?
19:13 <CoderForLife> ALICE didn't edit very well, so I doubt it
19:14 <Romulus> Title: Alice PascalAlice Pascal (at www.templetons.com)
19:15 <CoderForLife> run away
19:18 <CoderForLife> that's *still* a nice APOD today
19:20 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander downstairs - cya folks back here soon
19:20 <CoderForLife> gn
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19:51 * KathrynM yawns
19:59 <xcamel> 'lo Kat
20:08 <Tank_Master> KM!
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20:55 <Romulus> Title: Count Your Sheep - Tuesday, October 21, 2008 (at countyoursheep.com)
20:56 <Romulus> Title: Count Your Sheep - Thursday, October 23, 2008 (at countyoursheep.com)
20:56 * PovAddict looks at xcamel
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21:00 <xcamel> laterz all..
21:09 <Tank_Master> c-ya xcamel
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