IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-10-27

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04:33 <CoderForLife> brb    breakfast

04:38 <CoderForLife> b

04:48 <FreeLarry> humm interesting trend micro found 4 suspisious files and after deleting them java started to work/function again

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04:49 <CoderForLife> you're infected?

04:52 <FreeLarry> lol could have been - but it didn't go anywhere except that machine - mostly malware for trying to bounce you around to other sites for pay clicks

04:52 <FreeLarry> just aggravating is all

04:52 <CoderForLife> sure

04:52 <FreeLarry> spend more time scanning than anything

04:53 <FreeLarry> heck it even listed an old program on a hd on this machine as infected - it was a program that i haven't used in over 5 years and still in old temp ie5 folder

04:54 <CoderForLife> yup

04:55 <FreeLarry> that file has been scanned i don't know how many times and just now getting flagged as suspious

04:55 <CoderForLife> I guess a pattern file update added the signature

04:56 <FreeLarry> yup and recognized a very old execute file

04:56 <FreeLarry> guess they were using an old exploit in win me - thats when that file was created

04:57 <FreeLarry> just deleted the whole directory as only temporary files anyway

04:58 <CoderForLife> right

04:58 * FreeLarry thinks he should clean up hd's more than once a decade

04:58 <FreeLarry> or two or three

04:59 <CoderForLife> I usually wait for an HD failure

04:59 <FreeLarry> lol this hd been in several machines and at least 3 os

05:00 <FreeLarry> about 15 years old

05:00 <CoderForLife> it's due for an auto-cleanup then

05:01 <FreeLarry> lol have done that but so old the clean hd from m$ doesn't recognize the areas anymore

05:01 <FreeLarry> it still thinks that it valid security updates

05:01 <CoderForLife> heh

05:01 <FreeLarry> for ie5 that is

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05:09 <FreeLarry> morning jay

05:10 <CoderForLife> that was auto-hawmps I believe

05:17 <FreeLarry> ahh

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05:20 <CoderForLife> here we go...

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05:59 <CoderForLife> Hasta la vista, baby

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06:01 <CoderForLife> plink

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06:13 <Tidus> moo

06:15 <Tidus> CoderForLife: you there?

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06:28 <Tidus> hawmps_: problems?

06:29 <Tidus> lol

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06:37 <Tidus> hawmps: issues?

06:39 <FreeLarry> auto joiner

06:40 <hawmps> ip kills >>,,,

06:40 <hawmps> overheat for some reason

06:41 <Tidus> lol ouch

06:41 <Tidus> hello FreeLarry. haven't seen you in a while

06:44 <Tidus> i got another addition to my computer collection...

06:44 <Tidus>

06:44 <Romulus> <> (at

06:44 <Tidus> HP Pavilion dv8327cl laptop

06:52 <hawmps> not a real problem..

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06:53 <quail> for people that are interted this is what I have been up to over the weekend =>

06:53 <Romulus> <> (at

06:54 <Tidus> hi quail, long time as well

06:55 <quail> Tidus: howdy, yeah :-(

06:55 <quail> how are we all?

06:55 <quail> &wx ypad

06:55 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM CST; Clear. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:66 F. / 19 C.;

06:55 <Tidus> quail: new machine finally

06:56 <quail> huh?

06:56 <Tidus> i finally got a new machine

06:57 <Tidus> one that doesn't entirely suck lol

06:57 <quail> ah schweet :-)

06:57 <Tidus>

06:57 <Romulus> <> (at

06:58 <quail> Tidus: nice

06:59 <Tidus> HP Pavilion dv8327cl laptop, core2 T5500, 2gb ram, nvidia go-7600 graphics, 17" widescreen, 2x100gb hdd

07:03 <Tidus> and not too shabby for the price tho

07:03 <Tidus> originally, a lady brought it to me to fix, said the screen wouldn't come on.  so i hit the power button, like she said, internal screen didn't show anything

07:04 <Tidus> hook it up to an external monitor, got absolute *garbage*

07:04 <Tidus> everything was garbled and flashing. immediately told me video card was out

07:04 <Tidus> so i get it all disassembled right... turns out video chip is soldered to mainboard, thought "crap. gotta replace the whole thing don't i..."

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07:05 <Tidus> so i look it up on HP's site, turns out it was gonna cost US$400 to fix, plus my labor charge

07:05 <Tidus> i told the lady that price quote... she said keep it

07:05 <Tidus> and my best friend had one just like it with a fried keyboard and cracked screen

07:06 <Tidus> so i just mix/matched and now it works

07:06 <quail> Tidus: very nice

07:09 <Tidus> i thought so too :)

07:10 <Tidus> not the first broken pc someone's told me to keep

07:11 <quail> Tidus: so what you think of what I was up to over the weekend?

07:11 <Tidus>

07:11 <Romulus> <> (at

07:11 <Tidus> pff

07:12 <Tidus> damn putty copy/paste

07:12 <Tidus> lol... shows ya that i haven't used putty in ages

07:12 <Tidus> i'm lookin... my net's bein retardedly slow for some reason

07:13 <quail> oh

07:13 <Tidus> ok, i see an old toshiba laptop runnin gps software... what exactly was you doing?

07:15 <quail> setting up a pentium MMX 200MHz laptop with Debian etch with no nets connection to do GPS stuff for me

07:15 <Tidus> ah cool

07:15 <Tidus> not bad

07:15 <Tidus> i reassembled this laptop lol

07:15 <quail> and it only got 96MB ram

07:17 <Tidus> not too shabby

07:19 <quail> and it running atm total of 47 tasks

07:19 <Tidus> not bad lol

07:19 <Tidus>

07:19 <Romulus> <> (at

07:19 <Tidus> terrible lighting, but that's mine

07:20 <quail> I have now got it running xdm and openbox now and uninstalled all the xfce and gdm stuff

07:21 <quail> nice, all you need to do now is just install linux on to it :-P

07:21 <Tidus> it dual boots

07:21 <Tidus> notice i said 2x100gb disks

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07:23 <Tidus> this particular one shipped with a pair of identical 100gb disks in a raid configuration

07:23 <Tidus> i broke the raid and now i have windows on one, linux on the other

07:25 <quail> nice :-)

07:27 <Tidus> yeah

07:27 <quail> what linux distro you using?

07:28 <Tidus> fedora 9 64 bit

07:28 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-21-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8200  @ 2.66GHz 1998.000 MHz | Bogomips: 10669.86 | Mem: 3011/3959M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 226.79G Free: 88.06G | Procs: 138 | Uptime: 11 days 11 hrs 22 mins 14 secs | Load: 0.41 0.39 0.36  | Vpenis: 214.3 cm | Vboobies: 81G | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 3.99G Out: 2.28G

07:28 <quail> Sensors: HDD:

07:30 <Tidus> not bad

07:30 <quail> that my desktop

07:30 <Tidus> heh, my desktop is powered off at the moment because this thing is faster :(

07:31 <Tidus> my desktop is an athlon-64 3500 single core (socket AM2, 2.2ghz overclocked to 2.6) with 3gb ram, nvidia 6600LE video

07:31 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 |  Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2050  @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.46 | Mem: 555/1002M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 61.41G | Procs: 114 | Uptime: 1 day 1 hr 8 mins 22 secs | Load: 0.00 0.02 0.01  | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) | wlan0: In: 133.30M Out: 11.20M

07:32 <quail> that my laptop

07:33 <quail> but I am mostly on my laptop tho

07:33 <Tidus> my laptop is faster than my tower

07:34 <quail> my tower faster than my laptop sometimes

07:34 <Tidus> pretty sad eh?

07:34 <quail> nah

07:35 <quail> my laptop once was the fastest computer in the house

07:35 <Tidus> my laptop easily swallows my desktop on gaming performance

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07:37 <quail> only reason I use my laptop most the time is cause it easier to move around and it runs debian, and the other reason is cause I am to slack to upgrade my desktop to debian

07:37 <Tidus> lol

07:37 <Tidus> my desktop runs kubuntu 8.04

07:37 <Tidus> fixing to re-install it tho to run debian sid

07:38 <Tidus> this laptop currently has fedora 9 x86_64 on it

07:38 <Tidus> i want 64-bit gentoo on it though

07:39 <quail> you thought about Arch?

07:39 <Tidus> never got around to trying it

07:40 <quail> ah

07:42 <Tidus> i wanted to give fedora another try... last time i used it was fedora core 3

07:43 <quail> yep

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12:37 <asianCoolz> hi all

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12:42 <Tank_Master> heh

12:45 <Soul_keeper>

12:45 <Romulus> <> (at www.talkradionet!@#&.com)

12:51 <Tank_Master> whats your reason for posting that?

12:51 <Tank_Master> just currious

12:51 <Tank_Master> seems outa da blue :P

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12:59 <hawmps> BOINC 6.3.18 released for Linux

12:59 <hawmps> (alpha)

13:03 <PovAddict> yes because David Anderson didn't test his code, so he had to fix it multiple times...

13:03 <Tank_Master> lol

13:03 <Tank_Master> does it work in the slightest?

13:03 <hawmps> so.. no answer on why the client won't start since 6.3.x...

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13:20 <Soul_keeper> lol  they attack palin for her unmarried 17yr old daughter being pregnant, yet obama's mother was 17yrs old unmarried and pregnant

13:23 <[B^S]renemayer> but hes not such a religious freak

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13:39 <Soul_keeper> [B^S]renemayer, obama not a religious freak ?!?

13:40 <Tank_Master> lol

13:41 <Soul_keeper> yeah he's just a socialist marxist islamic domestic terrorist befriending non-american

13:41 <Tank_Master> nice tital

13:42 <[B^S]renemayer> tought so, not paying much attention, but here in germany we dont really hear much bout him beeing religious

13:43 <Tank_Master> he attended a church where the paster was making anti-american comments

13:43 <Soul_keeper> racist comments

13:43 <Tank_Master> that to

13:43 <Soul_keeper> ayers was the affiliation with anti american domestic terrorism

13:45 <Tank_Master> and then theres ACORN and the voter fraud...

13:45 <Soul_keeper> "Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days."

13:45 <Tank_Master> and ties with the BANK intimidation

13:45 <Soul_keeper> obama calls him "mainstream and respectable"

13:45 <Tank_Master> heh, yeah

13:45 <Soul_keeper> can't forget resko either ...

13:45 <[B^S]renemayer> so why hes not visiting cuba then?

13:46 <Tank_Master> im sure he will, if he hasnt already

13:46 <Soul_keeper> [B^S]renemayer, he rather visit indonesia and stuff

13:46 <[B^S]renemayer> i mean, the americanized part of cuba

13:47 <[B^S]renemayer> with cia-tours

13:47 <Soul_keeper> he has a plan for cuba

13:48 <Soul_keeper> in our country you can't be president if you aren't a natural born citizen (ie: arnold)

13:49 <Soul_keeper> obama hasn't proven he is a natural born citizen

13:49 <Tank_Master> what? release the embargo and have them become his mentors and advisors?

13:49 <[B^S]renemayer> i meant why isnt he arrested in quantanamo bay

13:49 <Soul_keeper> [B^S]renemayer, because he's rich and popular

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13:50 <Tank_Master> probably because he got someone to sya that would be racest

13:50 * DerMeister strongly recommend that this chan should be renamed to something like #useless_rants_about_american_politics...

13:50 <Soul_keeper> yup

13:50 <DerMeister> Damn I hate those useless elections... Why do media all over the world talk about that?!?

13:51 <DerMeister> It just doesn't matter who will be the next president of the usa...

13:51 <Soul_keeper> the major shareholders of the major media networks are liberals and middle easterners

13:51 <Tank_Master> obama was born in hawii by a US mother and a mideleastern father

13:51 <Tank_Master> so he was born with US citizenship

13:52 <Soul_keeper> prove it

13:52 <Soul_keeper> it's not proven

13:52 <Soul_keeper> and even if he was he forfeited his citizenship when he moved to indonesia as a kid

13:52 <Tank_Master> there was a injunction that was put out by an atterny to try n get the corts to challange his citizenship

13:53 <Soul_keeper> obama used the name  "barry satura" when he was in indonesia as a kid

13:53 <Tank_Master> I cant find the link right off

13:53 <Tank_Master> how long was he there?

13:53 <Soul_keeper> they have his grandmother on tape saying he was born in kenya

13:53 <Tank_Master> did he loose his citizenship

13:53 <Soul_keeper> like 9yrs or something

13:53 <Tank_Master> ?

13:53 <Tank_Master> then probbaly yes :P

13:54 <Soul_keeper> he attended a muslim school there

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13:55 <Soul_keeper> nobody cares anymore

13:55 <Tank_Master> and those in control dont want you to care

13:56 <Soul_keeper> Barack Hussein Obama     who is this guy ?

13:57 <Soul_keeper> his college records aren't public either, it's believed he recieved financial aid for being a foreigner

13:58 <Tank_Master> which is od

13:58 <Soul_keeper> his so called "birth certificate" is a modified version of his half sister's unofficial birth certificate

13:58 <Tank_Master> why would his college records not be public, yet others are?

13:58 <Soul_keeper> no official seal

13:59 <Soul_keeper> had been modified

14:00 <Soul_keeper> the public apparently isn't supposed to know who they are electing

14:01 <Tank_Master> thats cus he's the perfit pupit

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14:01 <[B^S]renemayer> i have lost you, why should there be a conspiracy be in place to bring an islamic extremist in place now?

14:01 <Soul_keeper> he wouldn't qualify to be hired for the FBI because of his ties to the nation of islam  yet he can be president

14:01 <MTughan_> WTF?

14:02 <MTughan_> Ah, more political talk?

14:02 <Tank_Master> hey

14:02 <Tank_Master> MT!

14:02 <Soul_keeper> fun stuff, ttyl

14:02 <MTughan_> Couldn't connect to the wireless in here before.

14:02 <Tank_Master> its not because he is islomic, its because he is socilist

14:03 <Tank_Master> c-ya SK

14:04 <MTughan_> This'll be interesting... We've just been shown a matrix that we might have to solve in a later course. A 14x14 matrix...

14:05 <MTughan_> And I thought 4x4 or 5x5 matrices were hard.

14:05 <Tank_Master> lol

14:05 <Tank_Master> yeah, I dont care for them

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14:32 <dizzie> Hello

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14:33 <Tank_Master> hi?

14:33 <Romulus> hi is anyone home lol, Tank_Master

14:33 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

14:45 <hawmps> ho?

14:46 <Tank_Master> hey

14:50 <FreeLarry> anyne have ideas as to why i lost 52000 credits overnight on boincstats? cant find a project that dropped so suspecting cpid split?

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14:53 <hawmps> growing extra tails?

14:53 <Tank_Master_> router craped out

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14:54 <FreeLarry> all possible -- checks backside only count 9 tails

14:56 <FreeLarry> e@h seems to have a problem currently to - somthing abbout parsing some file

15:04 <FreeLarry> humm looks like my vista machine causing the problem in stats

15:06 <hawmps> looks like this 2001 obomber interview has real legs...

15:07 <MTughan_> Running away from him, is it? :P

15:19 <FreeLarry> humm i see i need to do a little more updating of boinc - version 5.10.30? on one machine just updated 6.2.19 64 bit

15:21 <MTughan_> You had a 5.10.30 machine? Nice.

15:24 <FreeLarry> yeah old molehill

15:25 <FreeLarry> was still crunching along too

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15:28 <Tank_Master> always nice when a comp does that

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15:29 <Tank_Master> n good ridence

15:29 <FreeLarry> yeah ;)

15:29 <FreeLarry> to item previous

15:29 <Tank_Master> lol

15:29 <Tank_Master> I figured as much

15:30 <FreeLarry> lol yeah when i looked at screen i got confused as to what i responded too

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15:30 <Tank_Master> nickuwo!

15:31 <nickuwo> Hey Tank, what's up?

15:31 <Tank_Master> not your project...

15:31 <yoyo[RKN]> servus nickuwo

15:31 <Tank_Master> (yes, I STILL have work...)

15:31 <Tank_Master> lol, man, oh well

15:31 <nickuwo> dammit :) can you abort it?

15:31 <Tank_Master> and miss out on the credits?

15:32 <nickuwo> eh? If the project isdown you wont get credits...

15:33 <nickuwo> yoyo: servus?

15:33 <Tank_Master> just turn it back on late the 28th

15:33 <nickuwo> :p

15:33 <Tank_Master> all these are do the 29th

15:33 <Tank_Master> your upload server is still on

15:33 <Tank_Master> so all I gotta do is report them

15:34 <yoyo[RKN]> servus is austrian for "hi"

15:34 <nickuwo> nice, no more dls tho right?

15:34 <Tank_Master> set it to NNW

15:34 <Tank_Master> yeah

15:35 <nickuwo> ahh! I'll have to remember that. Is it pronounced like "serve us" ?

15:35 <nickuwo> sounds good tank

15:35 <Tank_Master> cruncher never got back to me on giving me the optimized app :(

15:36 <nickuwo> ya, hes like that. Someone else optimized it and gave me the source, I could send it to yo if you want to compile it

15:36 <Tank_Master> I have nothing to compile it with (not that id know how)

15:37 <Tank_Master> to bad I dont have a mac, I hear the credits there were great

15:38 <nickuwo> I c. It's not too hard - if you ever change your mind lemme know. I think it'll compile with c++ express, which is free

15:38 <DerMeister> Which project?

15:38 <Romulus> I guess Which project is RS, DerMeister

15:38 <Tank_Master> no, its ramsey, Romulus

15:38 <DerMeister> Thx. I was already about to ask if Romulus was right in this case ;)

15:39 <Tank_Master> lol

15:39 <Tank_Master> dufis bot

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15:39 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez!

15:39 <Tank_Master> wb

15:39 <jackygrahamez> &weather Washington, DC

15:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 41.8F / 5.4C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain this evening...then a slight chance of rain after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy and blustery. (1 more message)

15:40 <jackygrahamez> &more

15:40 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Highs in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts around 35 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph.;

15:40 <jackygrahamez> Hi Tank_Master!

15:40 <Tank_Master> hows your doin?

15:41 <nickuwo> class time - later guys!

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15:42 <Tank_Master> dang, Im in the process of d/ling C++ express to...

15:43 <jackygrahamez> I'm doing good

15:43 <jackygrahamez> how about you?

15:43 <Tank_Master> good

15:44 <Tank_Master> hopin to get the rest of these ramsey WUs compleated so nick can finally shut them off for good

15:44 <Tank_Master> wonder why he never stoped issuing work

15:45 <jackygrahamez> I joined a chemistry IRC, that looks like a good place to talk about some of my project questions

15:45 <Tank_Master> the science side anyway

15:45 <jackygrahamez> indeed

15:46 <Tank_Master> your project is hydrogen, right?

15:46 <jackygrahamez> Computational chemists don't always seem interested in BOINC because they have been brought into the super computing fold

15:46 <jackygrahamez> right

15:46 <Tank_Master> w you have some news, congrats

15:47 <jackygrahamez> ?

15:47 <Tank_Master> ugg

15:47 <Tank_Master> I saw*

15:47 <Tank_Master> it didnt pick up the first part...

15:48 <Tank_Master> the slashdot article is what I was refering to

15:48 <jackygrahamez> yes, I was referencing some related work

15:50 <jackygrahamez> I'm kind of debating if my research would be more cost effective just to do in a wet laboratory

15:50 <Tank_Master> do you think your project would be able to run in a GPU?

15:50 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to take an approach that has never been achieved and may have practicle problems in doing so

15:50 <Tank_Master> nice

15:50 <Tank_Master> worthy goal

15:51 <FreeLarry> 10/27/2008 12:50:55 PM|Einstein@Home|Message from server: Server can't parse configuration file

15:51 <jackygrahamez> So I'm also designing a bioreactor for growing algae and a cheap fuel cell with relatively innocuous chemicals

15:51 <FreeLarry> waht does this mean?

15:52 <Tank_Master> means the einstine server is misconfiged

15:52 <FreeLarry> humm jackygrahamez think i read part of an article a few months ago on that

15:52 <jackygrahamez> Once we have a practicle design, then people can take up their own wet lab experiments

15:52 <xcamel> It means Albert lost 10 IQ points.

15:53 <FreeLarry> thanks Tank_Master -- ?? i give it -20 as wu wont upload either

15:53 <jackygrahamez> If you have a workshop and free time, you can build an alkaline fuel cell

15:54 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Alkaline fuel cell (at

15:54 <Tank_Master> they will fix it eventually

15:55 <FreeLarry> ouch jackygrahamez - japanese?

15:55 <jackygrahamez> ?

15:56 <FreeLarry> is what i got when i clicked link

15:56 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Alkaline fuel cell (at

15:56 <FreeLarry> maybe my machine misconfigured too ;)

15:57 <FreeLarry> yeah it is will have to remove the japenese keyboard items on this machine again

15:57 <jackygrahamez>

15:57 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Alkaline fuel cell (at

15:57 <FreeLarry> every time i try a www addy it changes to jp.

15:58 <jackygrahamez> weird

16:00 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to find affordable materials an McGuiver a fuel cell using easily available components

16:01 <jackygrahamez> Plus I have to create an efficient electrolyzer to produce hydrogen for testing.

16:01 <FreeLarry> would give a hand but time for commute and this machine to flaky right now to reconfigure

16:01 <jackygrahamez> Then I broke my multi-meter :-(

16:01 <FreeLarry> <15 usd at radioshack

16:02 <jackygrahamez> I exagerate though, I broke the cable on the anode, i could probably replace that

16:03 <FreeLarry> yeah - cable sets seemed to cost more than a new meter last time i went to store

16:04 <jackygrahamez> well I'm heading home

16:04 <FreeLarry> tc then jackygrahamez

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16:04 <FreeLarry> &bye all off to w/*-

16:04 <Romulus> later ace

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16:19 <Tank_Master> wtf?

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16:20 <Tank_Master> I think willy screwed up the stats on BOINCStudio

16:20 <Tank_Master> I have -338k credits today

16:20 <Tank_Master> the amount that I got in ramsey...

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17:10 <Tank_Master>

17:10 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <CoderForLife> &dict wattle

17:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: wattle n 1: a fleshy wrinkled and often brightly colored fold of skin hanging from the neck or throat of certain birds (chickens and turkeys) or lizards [syn: {lappet}] 2: frame!@#& consisting of stakes interwoven with branches to form a fence v 1: build of or with wattle 2: interlace to form wattle; gcide: Wattle \Wat"tle\, v. t. [imp. (7 more messages)

17:17 <CoderForLife> &more

17:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: & p. p. {Wattled}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Wattling}.] [1913 Webster] 1. To bind with twigs. [1913 Webster] 2. To twist or interweave, one with another, as twigs; to form a net!@#& with; to plat; as, to wattle branches. [1913 Webster] 3. To form, by interweaving or platting twigs. [1913 Webster] The folded flocks, penned in their wattled cotes. --Milton. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 79 Moby (6 more messages)

17:40 <xcamel> re-hi

17:41 <CoderForLife> hello  Jay

17:42 <xcamel> did ja catch the 'redistributionist' tapes?

17:42 <CoderForLife> the 2001 thing?  yes sir

17:42 <CoderForLife> chilling

17:42 <CoderForLife> insightful

17:43 <CoderForLife> I hope people wake up to this

17:45 <xcamel> Dr. Phil: "Not-Gonna-Happen"

17:46 <PovAddict> hmm security update for Linux kernel

17:47 <PovAddict> changelog not available

17:47 <PovAddict> 2.6.24-21.42 -> 2.6.24-21.43

17:48 <CoderForLife> a wolf in change clothing

17:49 <xcamel> "A leopards spots may fade, but they never change"

17:50 <xcamel> "A Computer Program That is Pure Evil"

17:50 <xcamel>

17:50 <Romulus> <> (at

17:51 <CoderForLife> I guess that the most fervent prayer of his pastor is about to be answered:  "God @#$% America"

17:52 <xcamel> the "evil program" is a kick...

17:52 <xcamel> Will it Blend?

17:53 <xcamel> Will it run on the ObamaTron?

17:54 <CoderForLife> I guess it would be a bad time for computers to become self-aware

17:54 <xcamel> especially with tat as the basecode

17:55 <xcamel> er that even..

17:55 <CoderForLife> Terminator:Judgement Day

17:55 <Tank_Master> :P

17:56 <xcamel> that was not 'evil' basecode..

17:56 <xcamel> that was the proof that "logic doesn't care"

17:57 <xcamel> couldn't stop people from warring - wipe them out - problem solved.

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17:59 * PovAddict .oO(let's program it to try stopping people from speaking politics)

18:01 <xcamel> free speech here - unlike some banana republics south of the equator...

18:01 <PovAddict> like?

18:01 <Romulus> It has been said that like is saying Clemenceau about military "the war was something too serious to let it to military" ( it was a french general ) , i say about politics :), PovAddict

18:01 <DerMeister> ... It would still be nice if the talks here would be about boinc and not politics...

18:02 <xcamel> not much to talk about... 6.3 still sucks for linux.

18:03 <PovAddict> how is that different from politics then :)

18:03 <PovAddict> "still sucks"

18:03 <Tank_Master> 6.3 still sucks for windows to

18:04 <DerMeister> I don't think I'll ever update to 6.x

18:04 <Tank_Master> lol, to true pov

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18:09 <PovAddict> let's see... we're up to .18 and still not working decently, the mailing list thread about 6.3.17 has about 25 messages (most reporting problems); BOINCStats/PrimeGrid got a new server (credits from retired projects lost for the day because of it, PrimeGrid also had its migration problems)

18:09 <PovAddict> there are ideas in boinc_projects and in the dev forum about BOINC marketing and "unification" (whatever that means), some of the ideas quite stupid

18:09 <PovAddict> ...and all I see in this channel is US politics

18:10 <MTughan> I posted a modded FF addon. :P

18:10 <MTughan> Works nicely though.

18:10 <PovAddict> where?

18:10 <MTughan> Mailing list. Just a few minutes ago.

18:10 <PovAddict> ah that explains it (minutes ago)

18:11 <PovAddict> I think that IBM guy wasn't thinking about stats in a firefox addon

18:11 <MTughan> 8 minutes ago now.

18:11 <PovAddict> but about BOINC in a firefox addon

18:12 <MTughan> Where would you stick it?

18:12 <PovAddict> ?

18:13 <xcamel> not all users are programmers - you do have a dev channel to play in, remember?

18:13 <MTughan> Size wise. To show things about BOINC requires space. You don't exactly have a whole lot of space in an addon on the FF window.

18:13 <MTughan> This isn't programming. This is design.

18:13 <xcamel> or would you just like some more cheese with you whine?

18:13 <PovAddict> xcamel: what you seem to want is "BOINC development to #boinc_dev, politics in #boinc"

18:13 <MTughan> I already had quite a bit of cheese at dinner, thanks.

18:14 <Tank_Master> xcamel!

18:14 <PovAddict> MTughan: there is no need to show BOINC status permanently in the Firefox window

18:14 <MTughan> (Seriously. Parmesan cheese on a pasta, then 4 slices of pizza, each with a fair helping of cheese on them)

18:15 <PovAddict> I'm biased for monitoring what BOINC does all the time and micromanaging (and so would most people in this channel); but apparently most users really are "set and forget"

18:16 * Tank_Master is a set n forget person

18:16 <PovAddict> a tiny statusbar icon showing progress (like the manager's tray icon), and a separate window with the task list if needed

18:16 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: yeah right

18:16 <Tank_Master> lol

18:16 <Tank_Master> I am for the comps not at mu house

18:16 <Tank_Master> my*

18:16 <MTughan> Then the issue of multiple CPUs running multiple WUs comes into play. How are the progress bars shown?

18:17 <PovAddict> not necessarily a progressbar...

18:17 <PovAddict> or how about showing the total CPU time used (or total credits) in the status bar?

18:18 <MTughan> Well, total credits can still be done with that addon. What period of time for CPU time?

18:18 <PovAddict> set-and-forget people are more likely to be interested in their overall contribution than in the status of the current task

18:18 <MTughan> Yeah, true.

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18:19 <PovAddict> xcamel: what problem(s) do you have with 6.3 other than manager not starting client?

18:20 <xcamel> all I want it boinc to work, and work fast, and to stop turning into bloatware.

18:20 <MTughan> Join the crew.

18:20 <xcamel> think really hard about that question, PoV

18:21 <Tank_Master> that would be nice

18:21 <xcamel> If the client doesn't start, what is there to TEST ????!!!!!!!??????

18:21 <PovAddict> stop turning into bloatware? hah...

18:21 <Tank_Master> theres it starting to test

18:21 <PovAddict> "Yes, we'll add separate prefs for GPU, but probably not until after 6.4 is released." -- David Anderson

18:22 <Tank_Master> eesh

18:22 <MTughan> I thought about that. They're going to add them before we can test it?

18:22 <xcamel> GPU is no good if it runs "PU"

18:22 <Tank_Master> people ofer at PS3grid wont be happy

18:22 <PovAddict> well, start the client yourself, instead of letting the manager start it

18:22 <PovAddict> MTughan: it means they will be in 6.4.somethinglater

18:22 <xcamel> Sure.. start your car, and then put gas in it.

18:22 <xcamel> sheesh...

18:23 * CoderForLife grumbles

18:23 <PovAddict> I always start the client first, then only start the manager when I want to check something (closed most of the time)

18:23 <PovAddict> on Windows, client starts as service, manager starts on logon, but sometimes I close it for whatever reason (client still running)

18:24 <xcamel> thet would be you, and not 99% of other boinc (non server) linux users.

18:24 * CoderForLife wanders off again

18:24 <xcamel> buh-by

18:24 <MTughan> What defines a server? I'm running a consumer machine that I use daily, but it's running an SSH and a HTTP server.

18:24 <PovAddict> newbie linux users (= those who won't even touch a terminal) would use the distro packages

18:24 <xcamel> the whole framework of boinc is turning into a circular cluster-fsck

18:24 <PovAddict> which usually make BOINC client start on boot

18:25 <Tank_Master> would be nice if BOINC could handle SLI correctly

18:25 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Is that a BOINC or CUDA limitation?

18:25 <Tank_Master> you know, I dont know right off

18:25 <xcamel> server >> graphics deprived machine (You know what I meant)

18:25 <MTughan> I think I heard it's CUDA, but I'd have to look that up.

18:26 <Tank_Master> I just know that disabeling SLI allows you to run 2 GPU apps

18:26 <MTughan>

18:26 <Romulus> <> (at

18:27 <MTughan> Second last post.

18:27 * CoderForLife wanders back, grumbling

18:27 <xcamel> the idiocy of it - no one expects windows or OSX users to run their machines in console mode to make boinc work - why does this seem to be some kind of "mandate" for linux users?

18:28 <MTughan> Sorry to have to use a Google cache, but the main site said it was offline.

18:28 <PovAddict> xcamel: Linux users don't have to use the console to make BOINC work

18:28 <PovAddict> it will start itself on boot

18:30 <xcamel> Um.. I'm telling to current version(s) dont. Plus, I don't want it to start on boot. I want to click the link to 'run_manager' and hav it run - justlike every other app on my boxes.

18:31 <xcamel> is that just too much to ask? That's how it works on every other platform...

18:31 <xcamel> why does graphical linux have to be the "red headed stepchild"

18:31 <PovAddict> if you want it to "just run", don't use any beta version :)

18:32 <Tank_Master> ahh, thx for the link, MT

18:32 <xcamel> I really didn't think you could be quite that lame.

18:32 <PovAddict> you aren't just a user, you're a tester... you refuse to test *anything* if the manager doesn't start the client the way you want it?

18:33 <xcamel> Why should I have to go backward when it isn't expected of any other platform?

18:33 <PovAddict> start the client manually (I KNOW you shouldn't need to do that), run the manager afterwards, and go find all the other problems to whine about

18:34 <xcamel> Ah.. a question you **can't answer***

18:34 <PovAddict> no, I have no idea why the manager doesn't start the client

18:34 <MTughan> He's not DA>

18:34 <PovAddict> yes, I know you shouldn't have to

18:34 <KathrynM> I reported that with 6.3.14

18:34 <KathrynM> I'm going to check on it again.

18:35 <xcamel> so again, what gets "fixed" wasn't broken until.....

18:35 <KathrynM> It got broken somewhere in the 6.1 line and then fixed

18:35 <PovAddict> hrm

18:35 * KathrynM goes to open her shell

18:35 <PovAddict> right after installing 6.3 package, what is the client's filename?

18:35 <MTughan> That sounds so bad, Kathy.

18:35 <Tank_Master> KM!

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18:36 <KathrynM> some people have a dirty mind

18:36 <Tank_Master> :P

18:36 <Tank_Master> some?

18:36 <Romulus> Somebody said some are macs with the windows enhancements added to them, Tank_Master

18:36 <PovAddict> I just tried with synecdoche and the manager failed to start the client for an obvious reason:

18:36 <Tank_Master> wtf?

18:36 <DerMeister> DepSpid is no more :(

18:36 <KathrynM> you can pry bash out of my cold dead hands

18:36 <PovAddict> it tries to run 'boinc', but the client here is called 'synecd'

18:36 <PovAddict> so name is hardcoded...

18:36 <xcamel> K makes a point - too many niche interests whining about having their GPU code work, and you break a mainstream functionality, and then just ignore it.

18:36 <MTughan> And I'm reading up on SLI and CUDA...

18:36 <Tank_Master> yeah, depspid is dead

18:37 <PovAddict> I personally don't give a crap about GPU computing

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18:37 <Tank_Master> why?

18:37 <PovAddict> I'd rather use the GPU to fully accelerate my desktop, so that it uses less CPU, so that it leaves more CPU for BOINC

18:37 <Tank_Master> its lots faster with the right kind of work

18:38 <PovAddict> my GPU is also apparently on the borderline where it works for GPUGRID

18:38 <PovAddict> slowly

18:38 <Tank_Master> what card?

18:38 <Romulus> I guess what card is on there, Tank_Master

18:38 <MTughan> 8600 series, right?

18:38 <Tank_Master> for f***'s sack, Romulus

18:38 <Tank_Master> sake*

18:39 <PovAddict> GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2

18:39 <xcamel> gpu's are top make your desktop screaming fast (and GPU math is pretty "fuzzy")

18:39 <PovAddict> but even if it was fast enough I don't care about running BOINC on it

18:39 <PovAddict> it would just make my desktop eye candy slower (I don't think GPUs have the concept of "process priorities")

18:40 <xcamel> process priorities >> kill shots when gaming.

18:40 <Tank_Master> I hear the 2xx cards are fast enough to do both the eye candy and crunch

18:40 <Tank_Master> with no impact on the eye candy

18:40 <PovAddict> wrong

18:40 <Tank_Master> right

18:40 <PovAddict> if I had a 2xx card I'd just turn on more eye candy

18:41 <PovAddict> and get a second screen

18:41 <Tank_Master> lol

18:41 <PovAddict> and it would be just as loaded

18:41 <PovAddict> so there

18:41 * Tank_Master already has a second and third screen

18:41 <PovAddict> -_-'

18:41 <Tank_Master> on a 8800 GTS 512

18:42 <Tank_Master> for one of those LCD TVs and hooked it to the video out

18:42 <PovAddict> no recent 6.3.x for Linux 64-bit? :&

18:42 <PovAddict> :/*

18:42 <KathrynM> nope

18:42 <Tank_Master> no

18:42 <xcamel> Thank yo for posting that Kathryn, My last five posts of it have been ignored

18:42 <KathrynM> Was it too snarky?

18:42 <xcamel> not hardly.

18:43 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

18:43 <PovAddict> downloading at 50KB/s from Berkeley

18:43 <xcamel> and ppl wonder why I get a bit testy with PoV

18:43 <PovAddict> wtf?

18:43 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM KST; Clear. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 (1 more message)

18:43 <KathrynM> my toes are cold :(

18:43 <PovAddict> now 20

18:43 <xcamel> 45 here - and no oil in the furnace tank (stupid me)

18:44 <KathrynM> I gotta figure out how to turn the heat on again.

18:44 <PovAddict> KathrynM: I saw a post on boincstats about that... (or was it QMC LOTPHW?)

18:44 <PovAddict> someone saying he'd get a fast crunching machine

18:44 <PovAddict> by overclocking

18:44 <KathrynM> about cold toes?

18:44 <PovAddict> and using female feet as cooling

18:44 <KathrynM> lol

18:45 <xcamel> as long as the female remains attached....

18:45 <PovAddict> heh

18:45 <KathrynM> the same wall panel works the water heater and the underfloor heating.  I turned off the heating so I didn't boil in the summer when I turned on the water heater, but now I don't remember how to turn the heat back on.

18:45 <PovAddict> awesome...

18:45 <PovAddict> run_manager made my shell crash

18:45 <KathrynM> I can almost read Korean now (yay for me) but I don't know what I'm reading.

18:45 <KathrynM> major ouch

18:46 <KathrynM> how the feck could that happen?

18:46 <PovAddict> reason is probably that it's lacking a shebang

18:46 <PovAddict> to make it run on bash or sh

18:46 <Tank_Master> congrats, KM

18:46 <PovAddict> and my shell (fish) doesn't understand the syntax used by run_manager (like && or $@)

18:47 <PovAddict> confirmed, no starting

18:47 * PovAddict restarts synecd to avoid wasting CPU time

18:47 <KathrynM> that makes four of us now

18:48 <PovAddict> I just wanted to make sure it failed for me before trying to track down the cause

18:48 <CoderForLife> hmm - "reading" without understanding - sounds like me and Calculus I

18:50 <PovAddict> a train just passed by my screen

18:50 <CoderForLife> "For every epsilon > 0 and every x' in E, there exists delta > 0 such that..."

18:50 <PovAddict> mistyped 'ls' :)

18:51 <PovAddict> KathrynM: do you have sl? :)

18:51 <CoderForLife> It was Greek to me...

18:51 <Tank_Master> wb CFL

18:51 * CoderForLife grumbles

18:51 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: well of course it was... epsilon and delta are greek letters

18:51 <CoderForLife> thx Tank_Master

18:52 <PovAddict> :)

18:52 <CoderForLife> heh

18:54 <CoderForLife> I sat down in the grass in the Quadrangle in front of the engineering building with the big red "Calculus in One and Several Variables" book , and wondered exactly what I had done to myself

18:54 <CoderForLife> this of course was in October of 1975

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18:56 <KathrynM> PovAddict, no, never found it for Fedora

18:57 <KathrynM> Right around the time I was born CoderForLife

18:57 <KathrynM> I felt that way about O Chem

18:57 <CoderForLife> I was just typing that about you KathrynM =)

18:57 <KathrynM> and the electricity part of physics

18:57 <PovAddict> you're making CFL feel old :)

18:57 <KathrynM> lol

18:58 <PovAddict> ok building 6.3.18 from source...

18:58 <CoderForLife> just finished canceling the NetZero dial account I had gotten for my sister when she was in the nusring home

18:58 <Tank_Master> gl, pov

18:58 <CoderForLife> er nursing

18:58 <KathrynM> have fun PovAddict

18:58 <PovAddict> I remember when you got it

18:59 <xcamel> ok.. started the furnace

18:59 <PovAddict> just now finished configure...

19:00 <PovAddict> I think it checks for too many irrelevant things

19:00 <KathrynM> I remember the first time I ran configure and thought wtf, my computer is gonna blow up

19:00 <PovAddict> KathrynM: I pretend not to know the little I actually know about electricity

19:01 <KathrynM> all those circles and squiggles and arrows

19:01 <KathrynM> ugh

19:01 <PovAddict> "oh, no, a dualcore running BOINC 24/7 won't be a significant power usage..."

19:01 <KathrynM> makes my head hurt thinking about them

19:01 <KathrynM> lol

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19:01 <MTughan> PovAddict: Depends on the CPU...

19:01 <PovAddict> I have a Pentium IV too :)

19:02 <xcamel> and the little whirly thing outside the house that goes "ka ching... ka ching... ka ching"

19:02 <MTughan> Well there's your problem! :P

19:02 <KathrynM> I hate that little whirly thing

19:02 <PovAddict> hmm?

19:02 <PovAddict> oh, the meter thingy

19:02 <xcamel> they should have named them "dollarwatt hours"

19:03 <PovAddict> some days it feels like summer already arrived here

19:03 <PovAddict> I should cover the window with a solar panel :)

19:04 <PovAddict> taking FOREVER to compile the manager

19:04 <PovAddict> clearly I need a quad

19:05 <Tank_Master> quads are nice

19:05 * KathrynM wraps herself in a blanket

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19:06 <KathrynM> get out of my blanket

19:06 <PovAddict> ...with your own blanket?

19:07 <MTughan> 8C/46F here... Rather nice with two quads warming the room here.

19:07 <MTughan> rofl

19:08 <KathrynM> DA ignores me the vast majority of the time

19:08 <KathrynM>

19:08 <Romulus> <> (at

19:08 <KathrynM> I so want that sticker :)

19:09 <PovAddict> well, we have a start... StartupBOINCCore *is* getting called

19:09 <Tank_Master> I didnt say it was your blanket, KathrynM

19:10 <Tank_Master> thats just sad, KathrynM

19:10 <Tank_Master> think ill go post that elsewhere :D

19:12 <PovAddict> &boincerr -107

19:12 <Romulus> PovAddict: connect() failed

19:17 <xcamel> taking FOREVER to compile the manager << turned into bloatware

19:18 <PovAddict> as soon as they started using a MASSIVE header file that includes almost all of wxWidgets

19:19 <xcamel> iirc, there was just a WxW update for FC8

19:19 <PovAddict> makes it compile faster with a properly configured precompiled header (only Windows afaik), slower everywhere else (like Linux)

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19:19 <xcamel> need to check the fires of hell in the furnace..

19:19 <xcamel> brb..

19:19 <efc> Mo

19:22 <CoderForLife> I'm off to grumble downstairs

19:22 <CoderForLife> gn

19:23 <Tank_Master> hf

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19:29 <PovAddict> well I guess an important problem here is that if it fails to start the client, it thinks it succeeded

19:30 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:31 <xcamel> fires of hell burning nicely

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19:33 <PovAddict> moved some files around

19:33 <PovAddict> it started the client

19:33 <PovAddict> ...which died immediately

19:34 <PovAddict> I'll try running the client manually using the exact command the manager uses

19:34 <PovAddict> ...!

19:36 <Tank_Master> no worky?

19:36 <PovAddict> I found the problem

19:37 * xcamel takes off his stupid hat

19:37 <Tank_Master> what was it?

19:37 <Romulus> Somebody said it is an OK movie, Tank_Master

19:38 <Tank_Master> SFTU, Romulus!!!

19:38 <wdsmia> lol

19:38 <Romulus> spanks Tank_Master

19:38 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

19:39 <Romulus> !@#&s in Tank_Master 's general direction

19:39 * Tank_Master is searching for Romulus + goatsex on yahoo. WEEE 546 hits!

19:41 <Romulus> wonders why Tank_Master hangs out in 'goatsex'

19:41 <efc> Right idea, wrong implementation

19:41 <PovAddict> there we go

19:41 <xcamel> starts now?

19:41 <Tank_Master> heh

19:41 <PovAddict> posted

19:41 <PovAddict> if sandboxing was disabled at compile time, the manager still passes --insecure to the client

19:42 <PovAddict> but, if sandboxing was disabled at compile time, the client will say "unrecognized option --insecure" and die

19:42 <PovAddict> that kind of sandboxing is always disabled on Linux AFAIK

19:43 <xcamel> see how long it takes to get the compiled point release.

19:43 * PovAddict starts his stopwatch

19:43 <xcamel> but good catch - the kind of thing that is needed more often in the basic functionality

19:44 <xcamel> and less fluff...

19:45 <PovAddict> I guess you could make yours work without having to edit the code and recompile...

19:46 <PovAddict> rename 'boinc', make a shellscript called 'boinc' that calls the real (renamed) client with only --launched_by_manager

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19:48 <PovAddict> haha

19:48 <PovAddict> got a "thanks" from DA with more than one exclamation point

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19:48 <Tank_Master> nice

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19:53 <zombie67> installed leopard on my laptop

19:53 <zombie67> clean install, so still setting up some apps

20:00 <PovAddict> fish is slow...

20:00 <PovAddict> I just wrote three commands in a row, pressing Enter after them, and by then it was still running the first

20:00 <PovAddict> I don't know why it gets so stuck sometimes

20:05 <PovAddict> the first two commands were changes of directory...

20:05 <xcamel> holy crap...

20:05 <PovAddict> I typed:

20:05 <PovAddict> cd ..

20:05 <PovAddict> cd src

20:05 <PovAddict> rm -rf boinc-63

20:06 <PovAddict> looked at the screen, and it still hadn't changed directory to ..

20:06 <xcamel> areas north and west of me could get 6-12" of snow tomorrow night

20:06 <PovAddict> xcamel: ugh... send me some?

20:06 <xcamel> that's not even funny...

20:06 <PovAddict> we're getting mixed weather actually...

20:07 <PovAddict> one day lots of rain, with even a bit of hail in the morning

20:07 <PovAddict> the following day, 25C

20:07 <PovAddict> (imagine humidity)

20:11 <xcamel> this is why LaPaz is looking mighty good about now...

20:12 <xcamel> also - getting all the windows and doors repainted at the moment...

20:12 <xcamel> property manager's pics look pretty good so far...

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20:26 <Tank_Master> Id like some snow to

20:33 <xcamel> a 'disgracebook' app manager... they have got to be kidding...

20:36 <PovAddict> ..........

20:36 <PovAddict> they have got to...

20:36 <PovAddict> at least it will get BOINC users

20:38 <Tank_Master> ?

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20:49 <zombie67> hmmm

20:49 <zombie67> better

20:54 <zombie67> hmm, I just lost almost 1M in credits today.

20:54 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:07 <zombie67> ah

21:07 <zombie67> all my retired projects like nano

21:14 <PovAddict> yes, it's a temporary problem due to the server migration

21:15 * efc watches the server migrate

21:16 <zombie67> I had to back into learning what went wrong.

21:16 <zombie67> compared my stats to another site

21:16 <zombie67> then learned at least one was nano

21:16 <zombie67> then searched for nano on BS

21:16 <zombie67> then found the issue

21:17 <zombie67> something like that is what he should be using the RSS feed for

21:17 <zombie67> known issues

21:17 <PovAddict> say that on the forum :)

21:22 <xcamel> quack quack quack...

21:22 <xcamel> migration...

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21:31 <efc> &cyborg anna

21:31 <Romulus> efc: A.N.N.A.: Artificial Net!@#&ed Nullification Android

21:39 <xcamel> &cyborg migration

21:39 <Romulus> xcamel: M.I.G.R.A.T.I.O.N.: Mechanical Individual Generated for Rational Assassination, Thorough Infiltration and Online Nullification

21:43 <zombie67> any recommendations for audio books for my road trip?  I like history and Sc-fi/Fantasy

21:45 <xcamel> Hitchhikers Guide is always good..

21:45 <PovAddict> 42 is always a good answer :)

21:45 <xcamel> especially for driving..

21:58 <xcamel> laterz..

21:58 <zombie67> read THGTTG back 25 years ago the old fashioned way

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22:14 <PovAddict> sleep ->

22:16 <Tank_Master> ?

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