IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-11-16

00:05 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

00:05 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 67.3F / 19.6C | Humidity: 22% | Pressure: 29.41in / 995.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 50 to 63. Winds east 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs 86 to 92. Winds east 15 to 25 mph in the morning becoming light.; Sunday Night - Clear...cooler. Lows 43 to 53. Winds east 15 (1 more message)

00:05 <Soul_keeper> gimme rain !!!

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02:14 <efc> moo

02:16 <Tank_Master_> hey

02:16 <efc> &wx 30625

02:17 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 45F / 7C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. West winds 10 to 20 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.;

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04:21 <CoderForLife> plink 116.92.6.18

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04:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 35.2F / 1.8C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of flurries this morning. Highs around 40. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. West (1 more message)

04:36 <CoderForLife> &more

04:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;

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05:51 <MTughan> Well, I don't see the point of going back to sleep now... I wanted a good night's rest last night, and the fire alarm goes off at 5:14AM.

05:51 <CoderForLife> seems reasonable

05:51 <MTughan> Just after 5:30AM, turns off, we start moving in. And it goes off again.

05:52 <MTughan> Just got turned off a second time, and now we're back in.

05:52 <MTughan> And if that wasn't enough, I left my keys and ID in the room after I left. At least security can let us back in.

05:52 <MTughan> Anyway, finished dumping that from my tired brain... 'lo CFL

06:00 <CoderForLife> howdy

06:01 <CoderForLife> I'm "volunteering" this morning on bringing up an online store for a local museum

06:01 <MTughan> What time is it?

06:01 <CoderForLife> 6:01am

06:02 <MTughan> EST too eh?

06:02 <CoderForLife> yup

06:02 <MTughan> It's too early...

06:02 <CoderForLife> yup

06:02 <CoderForLife> been up since 4:30

06:02 <MTughan> Ouch.

06:02 <CoderForLife> my normal time to get up lately

06:03 <MTughan> I wanted to get some good sleep last night because I hadn't slept the previous night. Looks like I took the wrong night to pull an all-nighter.

06:03 <MTughan> I'm not usually up until at least 7:30AM.

06:04 <CoderForLife> sleeping patterns change as you get older

06:04 <CoderForLife> I used to Code late into the night

06:04 <CoderForLife> now I'm unconscious by 9pm

06:04 <CoderForLife> but up at 4 or 4:30

06:04 <CoderForLife> so now I Code in the morning

06:05 <MTughan> Just after sleep instead of before sleep. :P

06:05 <CoderForLife> right-o

06:06 <MTughan> It's not uncommon to hear people running about outside our door at 4AM. They've stayed up all night "partying". I think they just drink lots of beer and talk.

06:06 <CoderForLife> trying to properly size the "enlarge view" pop-up window for store items, ATM =)

06:06 <MTughan> Haha... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081116

06:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6j7er2> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

06:10 <MTughan> Gah, was in this same predicament last night too... I want food, but nothing's open for at least 3 hours.

06:11 <CoderForLife> that's wy I pack Pop-Tarts on my trips - I wake up at 4:30 my time, and I'm actually a timezone or two west

06:12 <MTughan> Ouch.

06:12 <MTughan> How far do you travel to do this stuff anyway? 2 timezones west puts you in Mountain time.

06:13 <CoderForLife> *this stuff* and my job are different things

06:13 <CoderForLife> I was in central time this past week

06:13 <MTughan> If you live close to the border of Eastern and Central though, they can be close. But Eastern and Mountain are further apart.

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06:21 <CoderForLife> brb  beverage

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06:24 <MTughan> 'lo quail

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06:24 <MTughan> Or not...

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06:28 <CoderForLife> not

06:34 <quail> CoderForLife: 'evening

06:34 <MTughan> Heh.

06:34 <MTughan> 'lo quail

06:34 <quail> MTughan: 'evening

06:34 <MTughan> I wish... :(

06:35 <MTughan> Two fire alarms at 5:15AM, we were out for 35 minutes.

06:35 <quail> I wish my nets was not so unstable

06:37 <CoderForLife> lol   ossec hids is a bit upset at the increased museum web site traffic this morning =)

06:42 * CoderForLife applies vi with a vengeance

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06:53 <CoderForLife> hmm

06:53 <CoderForLife> that's a new one to me

06:53 <MTughan> Is that a quit or an error message?

06:54 <CoderForLife> um, yes

06:54 <MTughan> lol

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06:55 <MTughan> I'm thinking it's a quit message, or it'd say "Binary inputs exceeded", the past tense.

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06:55 <MTughan> Or maybe not...

06:57 <CoderForLife> Mr. Binary Inputs Exceeding is back =)

06:57 <CoderForLife> "BIE"

06:57 <CoderForLife> as in Bye Bye

06:57 <MTughan> Heh.

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07:04 <MTughan> WTF? Intel's X58 MB is called "Smackover"...

07:07 <paul_b> man, i'm spoiled. been getting old 965 boards q6600's and cheap mem for over a year for the farm

07:07 <paul_b> this new stuff is expensive

07:07 <MTughan> Yeah.

07:07 <paul_b> must have it though!

07:07 <paul_b> heh

07:10 <CoderForLife> it's a drug - silicon

07:10 <CoderForLife> highly addictive

07:10 <MTughan> Very.

07:34 <quail> damn my friend head to Japan tomorrow

07:34 <CoderForLife> why would you damn your friend?

07:35 <CoderForLife> j/k

07:36 <CoderForLife> have you moved quail?

07:54 <quail> CoderForLife: not yet

08:15 <CoderForLife> just wondering if the in and out was caused by a new location

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10:23 <quail> can anyone explain what the diffs between pppoe and pppoa and what the benifits over one or the other?

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11:25 <CoderForLife> quail  http://www.carricksolutions.com/pppoe/pppoevspppoa.php

11:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9lewz> (at www.carricksolutions.com)

11:27 * CoderForLife plays in the PayPal sandbox

11:32 <quail> CoderForLife: can pppoa run over adsl?

11:32 <quail> I have googled and got confused

11:40 <CoderForLife> I think so, if you ISP permits it - google "PPP over ADSL"

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15:47 <efc> ye old p200 seems to have croaked

15:47 <efc> hangs after ram check

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18:00 <CoderForLife> all good things, efc

18:02 <Tidus> what's up CFL ?

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19:46 <PovAddict> I have some more LHC work

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20:13 <zombie67> Q:  My laptop usually crunches 24/7.  I will be traveling for the next three weeks, and the crunching will be only 8-10 hours/day (over night).  How do I pro-activly tell it that it will be on only 40% of the time, to keep it from over-d/l work?

20:14 <MTughan> You can set the Additional Work Buffer at least. I don't know if there's anything else. Options->Preferences->Network Usage.

20:15 <zombie67> no, that will effect all my other machines.

20:15 <zombie67> It is in one of the files

20:15 <zombie67> and hi MT!

20:15 <MTughan> I mean just on the machine. Those preferences are computer specific, although it will override any web prefs.

20:15 <MTughan> And hi back.

20:16 <zombie67> eh, I hate to do that, as I will forget.

20:16 <zombie67> I just want to update the setting, because it will fix itself over time once I return

20:16 <MTughan> Holy crap... Huge spider scaling down the wall.

20:17 <MTughan> Kleenex++

20:17 <zombie67> client state?

20:17 <MTughan> For messing around in client_state, I'd turn to Pov.

20:18 <zombie67> he's not here?

20:18 <MTughan> He's in the room, but dunno if he's AFK.

20:18 <MTughan> He said earlier he had LHC work.

20:18 <MTughan> Just over half an hour ago now.

20:19 <zombie67> <time_stats>

20:19 <zombie67>     <on_frac>0.928434</on_frac>

20:19 <zombie67>     <connected_frac>-1.000000</connected_frac>

20:19 <zombie67>     <active_frac>0.999921</active_frac>

20:19 <zombie67>     <cpu_efficiency>0.916822</cpu_efficiency>

20:19 <zombie67>     <last_update>1226884728.060342</last_update>

20:19 <zombie67> </time_stats>

20:19 <zombie67> I think it;s one of those

20:19 <MTughan> I suppose you could manually edit on_frac. That should be it.

20:21 <zombie67> on or acive?

20:21 <zombie67> I'll do both, I guess

20:21 <PovAddict> they multiply...

20:21 <MTughan> Active frac is how often the machine is allowed to crunch I think.

20:22 <zombie67> oh

20:22 <zombie67> okay, then only on

20:22 <PovAddict> if one is 50% and the other is 50%, it means "computer is on 50% of the time, BOINC active 50% *of that*"

20:22 <MTughan> 25% run time.

20:22 <PovAddict> = fail

20:22 <zombie67> I am making "on" 0.400000

20:22 <zombie67> \good?

20:22 <PovAddict> yep

20:23 <PovAddict> I'll assume you know BOINC should be stopped if you mess with those numbers :)

20:23 <zombie67> yep

20:24 <zombie67> I always found "stop" and "closed" to be too ambiguous.  Too easy for people to misunderstand

20:24 <zombie67> I use *quit*

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20:24 <PovAddict> well I meant "not running" :)

20:24 <PovAddict> as in, boinc process off

20:33 <zombie67> yeah, but people think clicking the red "x" means quitting, and stopping is even less clear to novices that know nothing about services.

20:33 <PovAddict> I have explained it this way before:

20:34 <PovAddict> if you turn off your screen, does your computer shut down? :)

20:34 <d00m1001> :)

20:34 <MTughan> PovAddict: It does in an iMac. xD

20:34 <PovAddict> screw macs

20:34 <d00m1001> PovAddict never leaves :)

20:34 <PovAddict> breaking my analogies

20:34 <MTughan> lol

20:34 <d00m1001> I have an iMac

20:34 * d00m1001 highfives MTughan

20:34 <MTughan> All right, how about the comparable Dell then?

20:35 <PovAddict> http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20021109

20:35 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at cad-comic.com)

20:36 <MTughan> I think it's a Dell anyway. It's an all-in-one.

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20:36 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

20:37 <xcam_mac> hola

20:37 <xcam_mac> wazzup?

20:38 <wdsmia> not much

20:38 <MTughan> Yes, the Dell XPS One: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-xps-a2420?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

20:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6x7lds> (at www.dell.com)

20:39 <xcam_mac> never had much luck with dell

20:39 <MTughan> <PovAddict> if you turn off your screen, does your computer shut down? :)

20:39 <MTughan> <MTughan> PovAddict: It does in an iMac. xD

20:40 <MTughan> Also something like the XPS One, although I'd never get one myself.

20:40 <xcam_mac> not on this mac...

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20:41 <xcam_mac> &wx12074

20:41 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Are you daft?

20:41 <MTughan> lol...

20:41 <xcam_mac> &wx 12074

20:41 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Temperature: 35.4F / 1.9C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Isolated rain or snow showers this evening...then isolated snow showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph... becoming southwest around 10 mph with (1 more message)

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20:41 <xcam_mac> &more

20:41 <Romulus> xcam_mac: gusts up to 20 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of sprinkles and flurries in the morning. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds around 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;

20:42 <xcam_mac> burrrrr

20:42 <xcam_mac> &wx MMLP

20:42 <PovAddict> &wx EZE

20:42 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Temperature: 81°F / 27°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 5:43 PM MST; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:68 (1 more message)

20:42 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F. / 14 C.;

20:43 <xcam_mac> much better

20:43 <MTughan> &weather YOW

20:43 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM EST; Tonight - Flurries ending early this evening then cloudy periods. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Low -4C(24F).; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent chance of flurries in the afternoon. (1 more message)

20:43 <PovAddict> yeow

20:43 <MTughan> Yep, seems about right... Really cold and it's snowing.

20:44 <PovAddict> I'll go crash in bed

20:44 <xcam_mac> tg i'm here

20:45 <xcam_mac> took a drive up into the mountains today

20:47 <xcam_mac> some really pretty spots.

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22:58 <PovAddict> <- sick :(

22:58 <MTughan> I don't suppose you got it from my roommate?

22:59 <MTughan> He's been sick all weekend.

22:59 <MTughan> You know, that'd be scary if biological matter could be sent over the Internet...

23:01 <PovAddict> i had a headache all day

23:01 <PovAddict> i now i think it could have been lack of water

23:10 <PovAddict> i'm so staying home tomorrow

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23:31 <efc> &wx 31088

23:31 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 38F / 3C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1024hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Widespread frost after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. Light west winds.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Frost (1 more message)

23:32 <efc> &more

23:32 <Romulus> efc: Advisory for Houston County in effect until 8:00 AM EST on November 17, 2008;

23:32 <efc> "Frost Advisory" sheesh

23:46 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

23:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 28.0F / -2.2C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 32.08in / 1086.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low in the upper 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy until late afternoon then becoming mostly sunny. High in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 (1 more message)

23:46 <wdsmia> &more

23:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Colder. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

23:47 <MTughan> efc: That's cold all right.

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