IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-11-18

00:29 <Tank_Master> ibm?

00:30 <MTughan> It's AMD.

00:31 <MTughan> Superman refers to Intel.

00:33 <Tank_Master> ibm can still do quite well againce intel if they wanted to

00:33 <MTughan> With the PowerPC series?

00:35 <Tank_Master> how do I op myself in a channel here?

00:35 <MTughan> Not easily, unless you have OP status in the access list, or find a bug in Freenode's software.

00:35 <Tank_Master> not this room

00:35 <Tank_Master> but here as in freenode

00:35 <MTughan> Oh... /mode #channel +o <nick>

00:35 <Tank_Master> tried that

00:36 <Tank_Master> didnt do anything

00:36 <Tank_Master> -o at lest gives me a message saing I need op status to do that

00:36 <MTughan> Oh, I know what you're trying to do... /msg ChanServ OP #channel

00:36 <MTughan> Will op you through ChanServ.

00:36 <Tank_Master> wahst it

00:36 <Tank_Master> thx

00:36 <Tank_Master> thats*

00:37 <Tank_Master> the other server I am on just auto ops when I join it

00:37 * MTughan has custom commands for all that stuff

00:37 <MTughan> I just type "/op" and it tries to op me in the current channel through ChanServ.

00:38 <Tank_Master> nice

00:45 <MTughan> Tank_Master: What IRC client do you use?

00:45 <Tank_Master> mirc with nns

00:45 <MTughan> NNS?

00:46 <MTughan> I was thinking that I could possible write an op script for mIRC, but I've never seen the scripting language before, if it has one.

00:49 <Tank_Master> no name script

00:49 <Tank_Master> its an ad-on to mirc

00:49 <MTughan> Also... When I build my new computer, I'm wondering what OSes to install. Certainly a Linux distro and possible Mac OS X, but I'm also looking at Windows 7, as a beta should be out by that point. Any ideas?

00:49 <MTughan> All right. Thanks.

00:49 <Tank_Master> I have the win7 m3 build'

00:49 <Tank_Master> rather stable

00:49 <MTughan> I know you do. Which is why I'm asking you.

00:50 <MTughan> I guess my question should be phrased better... Vista or 7?

00:50 <Tank_Master> I dont know when the beta will be out

00:50 <Tank_Master> 7

00:50 <Tank_Master> server 2008 or 7

00:50 <MTughan> "Beta 1 is to be released to the public in mid-December 2008 or early 2009 and the official system requirements for Windows 7 will be available at that time."

00:51 <Tank_Master> x64 corse

00:51 <Tank_Master> I wish win7 would be 64bit only

00:51 <MTughan> So maybe 7b1... I have a Vista Ultimate license, so that'll ease some pricing.

00:51 <MTughan> I know OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard" will drop PPC.

00:51 <Tank_Master> really?

00:52 <Tank_Master> that was quick

00:52 <MTughan> And be the truly 32/64-bit kernel. Seems that Leopard, even though it supports 64-bit development and applications, actually uses a 32-bit kernel.

00:52 <Tank_Master> but yeah, dont see why not

00:52 <Tank_Master> 64bit is always good :P

00:52 <MTughan> Yep.

00:52 <MTughan> Also drops Carbon, but that's not as big a concern. I don't have a release date yet.

00:53 <MTughan> Oh, about June 2009.

00:54 <Tank_Master> carbon/

00:54 <Tank_Master> ?

00:54 <MTughan> Anyway... All right, I'll wait until 7. Like I said from Wikipedia before, a beta should be out.

00:54 <Tank_Master> or go with the m3 build

00:54 <Tank_Master> :P

00:54 <MTughan> This gets deeper into OS X... I can explain if you want, but it doesn't really affect you.

00:54 <MTughan> Heh.

00:54 <Tank_Master> im lookin into getting the next release of osx386

00:55 <Tank_Master> the PC port of osx

00:55 <MTughan> Well, then maybe it could affect you... Cocoa and Carbon are different graphics kits. Cocoa is the current standard, and uses Objective-C and NIB files as its base. Carbon is older, and uses C++.

00:56 <MTughan> Cocoa is very nice to develop, and I believe more optimized. The only reason it hasn't been replaced yet is it was in use by several high profile applications:

00:56 <MTughan> Finder, iTunes, Microsoft Word, Adobe Photoshop, and a couple others.

00:57 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:57 <Tank_Master> so it may break those?

00:57 <MTughan> Anyway, we know the Finder at least will be rewritten in Cocoa for this.

00:57 <MTughan> For certain. Think of it this way... A whole whack of missing DLLs.

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00:58 <MTughan> I know at least that Adobe has actually skipped over Mac for their CS4 release because of the announcement. CS5 will be the next version for Mac.

00:58 <MTughan> I think... I'd have to verify that.

00:59 <Tank_Master> dont care about adobe cs

00:59 <Tank_Master> ms office I might

00:59 <MTughan> I don't know the status of that.

00:59 <Tank_Master> they ttend to be a year after the windows update

00:59 <Tank_Master> so in 2 years...

01:01 <MTughan> Hmm... Photoshop started life out as an image viewer on Mac. :P

01:02 <MTughan> Anyway. What were you saying about MS Office? I didn't follow.

01:02 <Tank_Master> ms ofice for mac tends to come out a year after the windows release

01:02 <Tank_Master> there should be a new office next year along with win7

01:03 <Tank_Master> so it would be 2010 before the new office for mac is out

01:03 <MTughan> Yeah... Ouch.

01:03 <MTughan> Glad I switched to OOo. ;)

01:04 <Tank_Master> lol

01:06 <MTughan> rofl...

01:06 <Romulus> <> (at

01:09 <Tank_Master> heh :P

01:09 <MTughan> Oh, I misread before... Carbon will still be in Snow Leopard, but it will not be ported to 64-bit, instead staying as 32-bit. Means that applications that use Carbon can't use 64-bit computation.

01:09 <MTughan> Which is why Adobe is writing Photoshop.

01:10 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:48 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Still up?

01:48 <Tank_Master> no

01:48 <Tank_Master> :P

01:49 <MTughan> You just ruined your response... :P

01:49 <MTughan> Anyway, what's the advantage of using server 2008 compared to Windows 7?

01:49 <Tank_Master> lol

01:49 <Tank_Master> its not beta?

01:49 <Tank_Master> thats about it

01:49 <Tank_Master> thing are working

01:50 <MTughan> I would've asked against Vista, but I'm sure you could've given me a whole list of stuff.

01:50 <Tank_Master> most everything works in win7, but I have some across a *few* things

01:50 <Tank_Master> lol

01:51 <MTughan> "So with Windows 7, many bundled apps--such as Windows Mail, Movie Maker, and Photo Gallery--are being yanked out of the OS and will be made available as separate free downloads from Windows Live." Nice.

01:52 <MTughan> Just reading over Win 7 articles... I do actually remember submitting a bug from Vista Beta 2. Was a sound card issue. Fixed in RC1.

01:52 <Tank_Master> they did that cus the want to update those more frequently

01:53 <MTughan> That, and also satisfies antitrust regulators. And reduces install size.

01:53 <Tank_Master> only issue with win7 itself I have seen is soemtime if you chane the file excention it comes up with a message "are you sure you wwan tto change the extention" and the yes/no buttons are mising sometimes

01:53 <Tank_Master> but not always

01:54 <MTughan> That's an odd one all right.

01:54 <Tank_Master> only way yto clear it is be ending the explorer task

01:54 <Tank_Master> not good

01:54 <MTughan> Ouch.

01:54 <Tank_Master> but it comes right back and every thing works again

01:54 <Tank_Master> Ive had the video driver stop responding a few times

01:55 <Tank_Master> but win7 kills it and reinits in in less than a second

01:55 <MTughan> That could just be a driver, not a Windows 7 issue.

01:55 <MTughan> ATI or Nvidia?

01:55 <Tank_Master> probably dosent help its a beta driver ontop of it :P

01:55 <Tank_Master> nvidia 180.xx

01:55 <MTughan> lol...

01:55 <Tank_Master> hid the nic driver crash on me once,

01:55 <Tank_Master> did the same thing, killed it, and restarted it just fine

01:56 <MTughan> All right. Because I know ATI's drivers can actually restart a frozen GPU in place while the system is running. Had that save my skin a few times.

01:56 <Tank_Master> so at least its got that down

01:56 <Tank_Master> thinks like that make life easier

01:56 <Tank_Master> things*

01:56 <MTughan> Yeah.

01:56 <Tank_Master> when it can corrects bugs

01:57 <Tank_Master> probably also doent help I am overclocking the CPU

01:57 <MTughan> As long as you do it right, it's fine. Look, Nehalem includes automatic overclocking in the processor itself.

01:57 <Tank_Master> win7 is deferntly faster and more user firendly then win8

01:57 <MTughan> A regression? :P

01:57 <Tank_Master> errr server 2008

01:58 <Tank_Master> not win8

01:58 <Tank_Master> but at this point server 2008 is more stable

01:58 <Tank_Master> not really supprising from a pre beta OS

02:01 <MTughan> About IE8: "InPrivate Browsing is great for those times when you want to keep your activities secret, such as when you're buying a present for the boss." Ha, they wish. :P

02:02 <Tank_Master> lol

02:02 <Tank_Master> google complained about that

02:02 <Tank_Master> cus they cant track what sites you go to

02:02 <MTughan> lol

02:02 <MTughan> Did you see this?

02:02 <Romulus> <> (at

02:03 <Tank_Master> lol

02:20 <MTughan> Seems Ramsey's server is shut down now...

02:22 <Tank_Master> bummer

02:22 <Tank_Master> was a fun project

02:22 <MTughan> Okay, that just looks sweet...

02:22 <Romulus> <> (at

02:22 <Tank_Master> oh, win7 has native support for changing the desktop background every so often :P

02:23 <MTughan> Cool.

02:23 <Tank_Master> only 3?

02:23 <Tank_Master> :P

02:23 <MTughan> Asus Rampage II Extreme board.

02:24 <Tank_Master> im gonna get the p6t

02:24 <MTughan> Same here, although it'll still be expensive...

02:24 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:24 <Tank_Master> $300

02:24 <MTughan> P6T + i7 920 + 3GB of triple-channel = $970 min.

02:24 <MTughan> At least here.

02:25 <Tank_Master> ya

02:25 <Tank_Master> mayby a touch less here

02:25 <Tank_Master> in USD

02:25 <MTughan> I might see about $800-850 there, but still.

02:25 <Tank_Master> 300 for the mobo, 280 for the cpu, what do you figure for the ram?

02:26 <MTughan> $180?

02:26 <Tank_Master> probably depends ont eh speed and amount, huh :P

02:26 <MTughan> Quite.

02:26 <MTughan> Remember, this is three DDR3 modules too.

02:27 <Tank_Master> oh, I know

02:27 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:28 <Tank_Master> this is gonna cost meny prity pennies

02:29 <MTughan> Yeah... I may still have to stick with a C2Q system. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't exactly cutting-edge anymore.

02:29 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:29 <Tank_Master> nothing like going obsolete over night

02:29 <Tank_Master> you wanna buy my quad from me? :P

02:29 <Tank_Master> for $1500

02:30 <MTughan> My old system didn't do that by a long shot... S-ATA ports from 4 years ago.

02:30 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Stats?

02:31 <Tank_Master>

02:31 <Romulus> <> (at

02:32 <MTughan> Q6600?

02:32 <Tank_Master> qx6700

02:32 <MTughan> QX?

02:33 <Tank_Master> ee

02:33 <MTughan> Oh right... Q6600 is 2.4Ghz.

02:33 <Tank_Master> the multiplyre is unlocked

02:33 <MTughan> What GPU?

02:33 <Tank_Master> 8800 gts 512

02:34 <MTughan> What's the memory configuration?

02:34 <Tank_Master> 4GB ddr2 (4x1GB) kingston hyperX 800

02:34 <Tank_Master>

02:34 <Romulus> <> (at

02:35 <MTughan> And basically one more question: what mobo?

02:36 <Tank_Master> asus

02:36 <MTughan> That's a broad range... :P

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02:36 <Tank_Master> hehe

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02:36 <Tank_Master> (Motherboard) ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5W DH Deluxe, version Rev 1.xx

02:36 <Tank_Master> yeah, that one

02:37 <Tank_Master> (CPU 1) Intel Core2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz (8192KB L2 Cache, LGA 775) @ 3413MHz (284MHz FSB), 99% load

02:37 <Tank_Master> with the thermaltake syphoon and thermaltake 680W PS

02:37 <Tank_Master> typhoon*

02:37 <MTughan> All right. What parts are you selling? Eg, is it just the CPU, MB, all that stuff, or the whole computer?

02:38 <Tank_Master> as much as I can

02:38 <Tank_Master> probably everything but hte case and HDs

02:38 <MTughan> Any optical drives?

02:38 <Tank_Master> unless I can get a resonable amount for the raptors

02:38 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:38 <Tank_Master> 16d DVD burner and slot laoding 16X dvd reader

02:38 <Tank_Master> IDE

02:39 <MTughan> You could keep those if you'd like... I have a DVD+-RW DL burner and a reader already.

02:39 <Tank_Master> at least I want to get rid of the mobo/cpu/ram/heatsink/gpu/ps

02:39 <Tank_Master> ahh, hea, its a dl burner, sorry :P

02:40 <Tank_Master> yeah*

02:40 <Tank_Master> runs UT3 just fine

02:40 <Tank_Master> havent tried crysis yet :P

02:40 <MTughan> lol

02:41 <MTughan> It's an older MB, but should still be sufficient for what I use it for... BOINC and games. :P

02:41 <Tank_Master> should run though

02:41 <Tank_Master> has 2 gigbit lan and wiereless onboard

02:41 <Tank_Master> 975 chihpset

02:41 <MTughan> Hmm... Wonder how much a second 8800GTS would cost...

02:41 <MTughan> Yeah, I looked it up on Asus's website.

02:42 <Tank_Master> I can get one for about 225-250

02:42 <MTughan> Yeah, you can. Dunno how much I could get one for.

02:42 <Tank_Master> might be cheeper at newegg though

02:42 <MTughan> But $1500, that'd limit me for stuff right off the bat.

02:43 <Tank_Master> I was kiddin about that

02:43 <Tank_Master> could buy me a compleat i7 for that

02:43 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:43 <Tank_Master> more like oh... $850ish

02:43 <MTughan> lol, it has serial ports... :P

02:43 <Tank_Master> +/- whatever I can get

02:43 <Tank_Master> no it dont

02:43 <Tank_Master> it sais that?

02:44 <MTughan> $850, even USD would more than likely be in my range.

02:44 <MTughan>

02:44 <Romulus> <> (at

02:44 <Tank_Master> ill b, it does

02:44 <MTughan> &currency convert 850 USD to CAD

02:44 <Romulus> MTughan: 850.00 usd = 1044.22 cad

02:45 <Tank_Master> even 1k cad?

02:45 <MTughan> &currency convert 1000 CAD to USD

02:45 <Romulus> MTughan: 1000.00 cad = 814.20 usd

02:45 <Tank_Master> or 110 cad with shipping

02:45 <Tank_Master> 1100*

02:45 <MTughan> Yeah, that's something I could probably manage... I'd have to go over the deal with my dad to confirm.

02:45 <Tank_Master> &currency convert 1100 CAD to USD

02:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 1100.00 cad = 895.62 usd

02:45 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:46 <MTughan> Because there's no way I know of that I could earn $1100 on my own.

02:46 <Tank_Master> lol

02:46 <Tank_Master> like I siad +/- whatever I can get

02:47 <MTughan> Understood. Now if I could just unload my P4 system somewhere... :P

02:47 <Tank_Master> Im hoping to see off my 3 comps are get 2 i7s

02:47 <Tank_Master> I got rid of them on ebay

02:47 <Tank_Master> mobo/cpu/ram combos for about $200 usd and they all went

02:48 <MTughan> Not bad.

02:48 <Tank_Master> had like 4 or so systems like that

02:48 <MTughan> I have a P4 2.8GHz, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe, 2x512MB DDR-400 RAM, ATI AiW 9600XT, and an Enermax 550W PSU right now.

02:49 <Tank_Master> hey, I had that same mobo

02:49 <MTughan> It's a nice one.

02:49 <Tank_Master> yeah it was

02:50 <Tank_Master> (RAM module 1) 1GB, form factor: DIMM, type: SDRAM (RAM module 2) 1GB, form factor: DIMM, type: SDRAM (RAM module 3) 1GB, form factor: DIMM, type: SDRAM (RAM module 4) 1GB, form factor: DIMM, type: SDRAM

02:50 <Tank_Master> thats crap for info

02:50 <MTughan> Quite...

02:50 <Tank_Master> (Video controller 1) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (Processor: GeForce 8800 GTS 512), 512MB, 2048x1536x32, 85Hz, driver version:

02:50 <Tank_Master> (Operating system) Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, version 6.1.6801 (79 processes running, 1.01GB free RAM, installed 1w 3d 8h 37m 4s ago, 2d 23h 14m 52s uptime, 2d 23h 14m 52s uptime record)

02:51 <MTughan> BTW... Where I had asked about the QX in the CPU number, I knew what it meant. I thought you had just made a typo.

02:51 <Tank_Master> ahh, no

02:51 <Tank_Master> its a xg6700 es

02:51 <MTughan> No, it's actually a C2E.

02:51 <Tank_Master> qx*

02:52 <MTughan> Hmm... Dunno how I can get the record uptime for this machine. It's up around 59-60 days though.

02:53 <MTughan> Ah, whatever. Almost 3AM, calculus at 8:30AM. Night.

02:54 <Tank_Master> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz (Engineering Sample)

02:54 <Tank_Master> gn

02:54 <MTughan> Engineering sample?

02:54 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:55 <Tank_Master> perks of living here

02:55 <MTughan> lol

02:55 <Tank_Master> well, if you are still interested, lemme know

02:56 <Tank_Master> ill probably ebay it after thx giving

02:56 <MTughan> I can probably have a rough estimate of what I can do tomorrow. But I won't have any money myself until after the new years'.

02:56 <Tank_Master> k

03:25 <efc> BSG starts up again January 16, 2009

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08:03 <PovAdct_w> Tank_Master, MTughan, etc:

08:03 <Romulus> Title: Larrabee (GPU - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

08:03 <PovAdct_w> "Larrabee can be considered a hybrid between a multi-core CPU and a GPU"

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13:39 <Tank_Master> yeah, I cant wait for it, PovAddict

13:53 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

13:53 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 36.4F / 2.4C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1030.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny late in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. High in the upper 30s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the upper 20s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly (1 more message)

13:53 <wdsmia_w> &more

13:53 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: sunny. Not as cool. High in the lower 50s. West wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the northwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.;

13:54 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

13:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 46.9F / 8.3C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning...locally dense especially Interstate 5 westward. Highs around 55. Light wind.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog. Lows in the upper 30s to mid 40s. Light wind.; Wednesday (1 more message)

13:54 <Tank_Master> &more

13:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the mid 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;

13:54 <Tank_Master> &more

13:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

13:57 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You're too impatient.

13:57 <Tank_Master> heh

13:57 <Tank_Master> its to slow

13:58 <MTughan> So?

13:58 <Romulus> So is iStat, MTughan

13:58 <MTughan> I like the iStat products...

13:58 <Tank_Master> heh

13:59 <Tank_Master> along with the other iCrap products

13:59 <MTughan> I believe.

13:59 <Romulus> Title: (at

14:01 <MTughan> I know they used to make some Vista gadgets too, but they discontinued those. I think they didn't like them as much.

14:02 <MTughan> Just for you TM:

14:02 <Romulus> <> (at

14:03 <Tank_Master> I already has a gadget for that

14:04 <MTughan> Very bad picture... But that's what it looked like:

14:04 <Romulus> <> (at

14:04 <Tank_Master> thats it?

14:04 <Tank_Master> the one I have has 5 lines

14:05 <Tank_Master> one for mem usage, and one for each of the cores

14:05 <MTughan> So it seems... I know the ones on Mac can do graphs too, so maybe that's just the initial usage.

14:05 <Tank_Master> and has a graph on mine as well

14:06 <Tank_Master>

14:06 <Romulus> <> (at

14:06 <MTughan>

14:06 <Romulus> <> (at

14:07 <MTughan> Does it expand down to add more cores?

14:07 <Tank_Master> thats a bit more info...

14:07 <MTughan> lol

14:07 <Tank_Master> 4 is this one's max

14:08 <MTughan> Holy crap... I didn't even realize I had 65GB free on my internal drive.

14:09 <MTughan> Until I looked at my own screenshot.

14:10 <Tank_Master> :P

14:11 <MTughan> I was running with just 12GB free a couple days ago.

14:11 <Tank_Master> nice :P

14:11 <Tank_Master> I got less than 300GB free accross all my drives

14:12 <MTughan> Oh... Seems the new MacBooks have HDCP in them now.

14:12 <MTughan> 215GB free in the computer here... Not sure how much in the other laptop.

14:12 <Tank_Master> high def co processor?

14:12 <MTughan>

14:12 <Romulus> <> (at

14:13 <Tank_Master> ahh

14:13 <Tank_Master> DRM?

14:13 <Romulus> It has been said that DRM is just fud, Tank_Master

14:13 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

14:13 <MTughan> High Definition Content Protection.

14:13 <MTughan> And here, I agree with Rommie.

14:14 <MTughan> And 20GB available in the other laptop, bringing the total to 235GB.

14:14 <Tank_Master> :)

14:15 <MTughan> Brought about by the copying of 7 DVDs to the laptop from here.

14:15 <MTughan> A whopping 43.4GB... I really need to reencode those.

14:17 <Tank_Master> yeah

14:17 <Tank_Master> I gotz lots of DVDs I should reencode to

14:18 <MTughan> Do you know if you can make "DVD's" in MP4? I'd just be playing them with QuickTime or VLC.

14:19 <Tank_Master> yeah, I believe you can

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14:46 <MTughan> Hey look, snow...

14:49 <MTughan> Oh right... Tank_Master: Who made the video card?

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14:53 <MTughan> Tank_Master: What make is the video card in the system you're selling?

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14:59 <Welshman> Yo

14:59 <Tank_Master> 8800 gts 512

14:59 <MTughan> 'lo

15:00 <MTughan> Tank_Master: I know that, but who made it? Asus, BFG, XFX?

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15:00 <Tank_Master> ohoh

15:00 <Tank_Master> bfg

15:00 <Tank_Master> and its an OC edition

15:00 <MTughan> All right, thanks.

15:00 <jackygrahamez> Hi

15:01 <jackygrahamez> &wx washington, DC

15:01 <MTughan> Just doing a bit of price comparison myself.

15:01 <Tank_Master> Im running gougrid fine even further oced

15:01 <Tank_Master> yeah

15:01 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 38.9F / 3.8C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. North winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph (1 more message)

15:01 <Tank_Master> I can get the 260 for about $225USD

15:01 <Tank_Master> dunno the brand right off though

15:02 <MTughan> &currency convert 300 CAD to USD

15:02 <Romulus> MTughan: 300.00 cad = 242.43 usd

15:02 <MTughan> Little bit lower than I can get it then.

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15:02 <Tank_Master> ya

15:02 <MTughan> Provided I haven't missed one...

15:03 <Tank_Master> whats the command to register a nick?

15:03 <MTughan> /msg NickServ help

15:04 <MTughan> &currency convert 225 USD to CAD

15:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 225.00 usd = 278.42 cad

15:05 <MTughan> In other news, my roommate's USB stick was killed by school computer...

15:05 <jackygrahamez> maybe it just became a zombie

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15:08 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo!

15:08 <yoyo[RKN]> yo!

15:10 <Tank_Master> hows it goin?

15:13 <yoyo[RKN]> smooth

15:13 <yoyo[RKN]> much todo with my job, so no big progress in yoyo@home

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17:14 <CoderForLife> ehlo ehlo ehlo

17:14 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

17:14 <CoderForLife> hello MTughan

17:14 <CoderForLife> home again

17:14 <CoderForLife> escaped from w@#%

17:15 <MTughan> Heh.

17:15 <CoderForLife> your day is coming, my friend =)

17:20 <PovAddict> be afraid

17:20 <MTughan> Hmm... Interesting concept:

17:20 <Romulus> <> (at

17:20 <PovAddict> o_o

17:20 <PovAddict> overclocking memory?

17:20 <MTughan> What about?

17:20 <PovAddict> sounds dangerous :)

17:21 <MTughan> I just find it odd that there's a memory cooler.

17:21 <MTughan> I've overclocked the OCZ modules in my old system. Consequence of OC'ing the FSB for the CPU.

17:21 <PovAddict> anything can get hotter when OCing :)

17:21 * PovAddict throws some more ice into his computer case

17:22 <MTughan> Nehalem dictates a voltage of 1.65V max for memory. A set I'm looking at is 2.3V recommended, can run with 2.5V.

17:22 <PovAddict> has anyone put his computer in the fridge?

17:22 <MTughan> Dunno, but some have made oil-submerged computers.

17:22 <PovAddict> I have seen water-submerged experiment

17:23 <PovAddict> (super-distilled and de-ionized water of course)

17:23 <MTughan> Water can be too conductive though, unless it's quite distilled.

17:23 <MTughan> Yeah.

17:23 <PovAddict> still got some shorts

17:23 <MTughan> Oil is safer.

17:23 <PovAddict> with oil, shorts went away, but the CPU had computation errors

17:25 <PovAddict> apparently oil had some property that didn't work well with very high frequency electrical signals

17:25 <PovAddict> they sealed the CPU pins so oil didn't touch it... then it worked perfectly

17:25 <MTughan> Guess it depends on the type of oil.

17:25 <PovAddict> and cool and silent

17:26 <MTughan> Whoa... Found another cooler that actually sits in a DIMM slot.

17:26 <PovAddict> the smell meant it wouldn't be appropriate to put it next to you though :)

17:26 <MTughan> Oh, they have to be quite sealed. You wouldn't want oil leaking out. :)

17:26 <PovAddict> yeah

17:27 <PovAddict> it was quite a mess to make it sealed and yet allow the display cable out :)

17:27 <MTughan> I bet...

17:31 <PovAddict>

17:31 <Romulus> <> (at

17:33 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict

17:33 <CoderForLife> I'll bbiab

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18:12 <CoderForLife> mback

18:14 <Tank_Master> wb

18:14 <CoderForLife> thx

18:15 <CoderForLife> u2

18:15 <Tank_Master> :)

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18:43 <CoderForLife> away for awhile - perhaps for tonight

18:43 <Tank_Master> ok

18:43 <Tank_Master> hf

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20:01 <CoderForLife> well, I'm really away now for the evening - gn folks

20:01 <MTughan> Bye CFL.

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21:27 <Soul_keeper> what i can't understand is why they'd announce a star trek movie that isn't coming out for 6.5 months ...

21:27 <Soul_keeper> never saw movie previews that early

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21:53 <Soul_keeper> what's going on here !?!?

21:53 <wdsmia> not much

21:54 <Tank_Master> stuff goes on here?

21:54 <MTughan> Nope.

21:55 <MTughan> We all just sit around and talk occasionally. Would that be considered solemn?

21:57 <Soul_keeper> keep up the good work

21:57 <Tank_Master> will do

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23:40 <efc> &math convert 1041.6 miles to km

23:40 <Romulus> efc: 1676.2927104

23:52 <MTughan> Holy crap... Snow Leopard may almost be ready by Macworld 2009, in mid-January. That's at least 4-5 months earlier than expected.

23:59 <Soul_keeper> it's all that ipodaphonemusic prophits

23:59 <Soul_keeper> they just snatch up a small country worth of coders

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