IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-11-21

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01:58 <efc> moo

02:10 <Tank_Master> hey

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04:41 <CoderForLife> bleck

05:25 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 25.8F / -3.4C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1023.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with isolated snow showers this morning... then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (1 more message)

05:25 <CoderForLife> &more

05:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: clear. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

05:28 <kathryn_> oh my:  One of them somehow managed to symlink his Trash folder to his / directory and then he force emptied the trash...

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05:29 <CoderForLife> Darwin must be served

05:29 <CoderForLife> it is the way of things

05:29 <KathrynM> lol

05:29 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

05:29 <KathrynM> evening CoderForLife

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05:32 <CoderForLife> today is a vacation day - going to the dentist -- sounds like a basic conflict, doesn't it?

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05:44 <CoderForLife> bbiab

06:04 <CoderForLife> b

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07:21 <PovAddict> yes it does

07:22 <CoderForLife> mm-hmm

07:22 <PovAddict> also, if I try to avoid saying the word w#$% without censoring, why do you say "dentist" in my presence? >.<

07:22 <CoderForLife> morning N.A.

07:22 <KathrynM> I'd rather go to w&@^ than the dentist.

07:22 <CoderForLife> lol

07:23 <PovAddict> KathrynM: how the hell did that happen?? (trash symlink)

07:23 <KathrynM> saw it in a comment on Lifehacker

07:24 <CoderForLife> Darwinian response to technology

07:24 <PovAddict> not really... can't get a darwin award unless he dies or becomes unable to reproduce

07:25 <CoderForLife> when the Mac first came out with it's cute greaphical interface, APple had problems with people dragging the clock into the trash as their first experiment - there was no way to be in back

07:25 <CoderForLife> to bring*

07:26 <CoderForLife> what a nasty typing episode

07:26 * CoderForLife glares at his fingers

07:27 <CoderForLife> of course, you all know that because I'm sure you were at the computer store when the Mac was unveiled

07:27 <KathrynM> of course

07:27 <PovAddict> hmm I'm not sure if I existed back then

07:27 <CoderForLife> 1984

07:28 <PovAddict> nope

07:28 <KathrynM> I was 9

07:28 <CoderForLife> no one was looking at the Lisa anymore

07:28 <PovAddict> ahaa! *calculates Kathryn's current age

07:29 <CoderForLife> I waited a year, and bought the Macintosh SE

07:29 <CoderForLife> for $3600 !!

07:29 <CoderForLife> heh

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07:31 <CoderForLife> I'm going to get a couple of receipts from Stephen's car - brb

07:39 <CoderForLife> b

07:42 <PovAdct_w> last time I went to the den***t, I had some sort of panic attack... before he could even put the anesthesic(sp?)

07:43 <CoderForLife> you need a lady den71$t - that helps

07:43 <PovAdct_w> I need somebody to clear my memories

07:43 <CoderForLife> The Scientologists can help with that

07:43 <CoderForLife> clear you wallet too

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08:25 <PovAdct_w> how can an installer use 300MB of RAM!

08:25 <PovAdct_w> stupid IBM software

08:27 <PovAdct_w> 500MB virtual memory now

08:27 <PovAdct_w> whole computer lagging

08:27 <PovAdct_w> and it's an *installer*

08:27 <KathrynM> what are you installing?

08:27 <PovAdct_w> bloated software

08:28 <PovAdct_w> it was a 300MB download

08:28 <PovAdct_w> which then told me I first had to have IBM Installation Manager (70MB download)

08:28 <KathrynM> well I figured that much out

08:29 <PovAdct_w> and then I noticed I was missing an important dependency (any of IBM's "deployment platforms")

08:29 <PovAdct_w> so I got "Rational Application Developer"

08:29 * KathrynM goes to bed

08:29 <PovAdct_w> a 2GB download

08:29 <KathrynM> holy crap

08:30 <PovAdct_w> that's what I thought

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08:38 <CoderForLife> there's got to be a pony in there somewhere

08:38 <jackygrahamez> &weather Washington, DC

08:38 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 35.9F / 2.2C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered snow showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 15 to (1 more message)

08:39 <jackygrahamez> &more

08:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: 20 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;

08:39 <CoderForLife> 100% chance of hot air

08:39 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 10.1F / -12.2C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.59in / 1035.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 30s. West wind near 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow after midnight. Not as cold. (1 more message)

08:39 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Low in the lower 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Snow likely in the morning...then a slight chance of light snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. High in the lower 40s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.;

08:39 <jackygrahamez> &change washington, DC?

08:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Error: The command "change" is available in the Dunno, Factoids, Herald, Lart, News, Praise, Quote, and Success plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "change".

08:39 <CoderForLife> Ten?  Just ten?

08:40 <CoderForLife> like in count on 2 hands?

08:40 <wdsmia_w> dont even need to take the shoes off

08:40 <CoderForLife> good thing, considering frost-bite

08:41 <CoderForLife> throw down some snow to warm things up

08:42 <wdsmia_w> Hmmm passed 16M Boinc total  :)

08:43 <CoderForLife> didn't stay to look around either, huh?

08:45 <CoderForLife> kind of link we did to the exit to go see Wall Drugs in South Dakota - just honked a hello as we went by

08:45 <CoderForLife> er kind of like

08:45 <CoderForLife> a geek typo

08:46 <CoderForLife> no jackygrahamez - I've seen too much of that change already

08:50 <PovAdct_w> closing xchat to give more RAM to the crazy installer

08:50 <PovAdct_w> stupid bloated IBM software

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08:51 <jackygrahamez> By change do we mean Kafka?

08:51 <Romulus> Title: The Metamorphosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

08:56 <jackygrahamez> Change is a slogan, it could be anything

08:59 <CoderForLife> change is what you get back when you pay for something in large currency denominations

08:59 <jackygrahamez> I didn't get any when I bought Euro :-(

09:00 <CoderForLife> exchange rates affect your change rate

09:00 <CoderForLife> nothing ever changes

09:02 <jackygrahamez> I agree and I disagree, life is like a pendulum

09:03 <CoderForLife> I used to think we would swing from one extreme to the other.  I finally figured out that we go from one extreme to the *next*.

09:04 <jackygrahamez> The change we experience is transient

09:04 <CoderForLife> ah, even change changes

09:04 <CoderForLife> it takes a second order differential equation just to see what's happening

09:07 <jackygrahamez> hmm I think its best to use fractal mathmatics to describe human behavior

09:07 <CoderForLife> I think a randon number generator would probably be better

09:08 <CoderForLife> but then again, maybe Asimov was right, given enough individuals, maybe psychohistory can predict the future

09:09 * CoderForLife goes back to trying the predict the behavior of his checking account

09:14 <jackygrahamez> That was an interesting serries, I think paul krugman said they were what inspired him to learn economics

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09:39 <MTughan> Well great... To return a product to Razer, you must have a receipt and a serial number. The receipt could be at my house (it was bought almost 6 months ago!), and I don't know where the heck the serial number is. It's a pair of headphones for crying out loud...

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09:48 <CoderForLife> I'm off to the |)3|\|7|57 - bbl

09:49 <PovAdct_w> !

09:49 <PovAdct_w> bye

09:51 <PovAdct_w> I'll be sucking the company internet connection for quite a while now

09:51 <PovAdct_w> but it will be w%&/ related downloads at least... stupid bloated software to download

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13:48 <kobzeci-II> hi , i am trying to access but i cant is the website down

13:48 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at

13:49 <kobzeci-II> the only thing i see is a blank page and a favicon for weeks

13:49 <MTughan_> kobzeci-II: Two things. One, if the website is down, there's nothing that we can do about it. No one from the BOINC project is on here. Two, it isn't down.

13:50 <MTughan_> What browser are you using?

13:51 <kobzeci-II> Mtughan:thank you and could you please check , i tried both firefox and ie ,and i am from Turkey no one is able to get in this sites

13:51 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

13:52 <MTughan_> Are you sure you aren't being blocked by something else? Both SETI@home and BOINC's websites are up for me, even if SETI's site is a bit slow at the moment...

13:52 <kobzeci-II> Mtughan, not only me a lot of ppl could not acces, site loads but its just empty

13:53 <MTughan_> Yeah, it sounds like a proxy filter then. I have a suggestion: Do a Google search for a program called JAP. It's an anonymous proxy I've used to get around filters before.

13:53 <MTughan_> Setup instructions should be on the site if you can get to it.

13:54 <kobzeci-II> is it similar to tunnel such as ? but it doesnt work either, i can only get google cached pages

13:55 <MTughan_> I haven

13:55 <MTughan_> ..'t heard of ktunnel, but let me look it up.

13:56 <MTughan_> Looks like it, but it'll actually redirect the web requests from your browser, so you just use it as normal.

13:57 <kobzeci-II> actually it works, because you can access youtube( its blocked by the court)

13:57 <MTughan_> So I heard.

13:58 <MTughan_> Are you just trying to download BOINC for the first time and attach to SETI@home?

13:58 <kobzeci-II> anyway i should mail to this sites wm thanks for your help. No i registered it 2 years ago and i its working on my laptop now :D

13:59 <kobzeci-II> *boinc works

13:59 <MTughan_> Cool.

14:01 <kobzeci-II> and by the way i am using Pardus Linux and, developers are packaged boinc ,its now in playground repos soon it will be on stable repos :)

14:02 <MTughan_> Ah, very useful.

14:04 <kobzeci-II> Thank you for your help again. bye

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15:23 <efc> Latest skymap of my seti@home work..

15:27 <efc> Not all my WUs get logged in there due to drive mapping problems etc

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15:43 <efc> S@H's wish list for the near time persistency checker:

15:43 <efc> Near Time Persistency Checker compute server:

15:43 <efc> At least eight 64 bit CPU cores (8 single core, 4 dual core or 2 quad core)

15:43 <efc> 32-64GB RAM

15:43 <CoderForLife> home again

15:44 <efc> moo CFL

15:44 <CoderForLife> moo efc

15:44 <CoderForLife> my lady dentist with the blond hair and hazel eyes said to say hi

15:48 <efc> Sigh, good thing I like brunettes

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16:19 <PovAddict> lol

16:19 <PovAddict> "Last time I saw "my" doctor, it was completely evident that since I wasn't actually dying, he totally didn't give a ****."

16:21 <CoderForLife> oops - sorry PovAddict - I meant |)3|\|7|57

16:21 <FreeLarry58> most still don't even if evident you are

16:21 <PovAddict> lol FL

16:22 * FreeLarry58 still recovering from blood draw on tuesday

16:22 <PovAddict> btw, I still have that totally-****ed-up tooth

16:22 <FreeLarry58> ouch same here for tooth that broke in Feb.  Maybe i can get it pulled dec 09

16:22 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: was it worse than what this guy tells? : "This morning, a very friendly lady stuck a cookie cutter in my arm and aspirated 200 ml of my fresh, warm blood."

16:23 <FreeLarry58> lol almost the same amount but into vals

16:23 <FreeLarry58> vials

16:23 <PovAddict> "I especially liked the look of glee on her face when she found a large, juice vein. o_O"

16:23 <PovAddict> ok so I was saying

16:24 <FreeLarry58> veinal and arterial

16:24 <PovAddict> many years ago, tooth broke, dentist had to take it out

16:25 <PovAddict> as of Nov 21st 2008, most painful experience I can remember

16:25 <FreeLarry58> yeah have 2 crowned now at least 2 (one broken now) to go yet

16:25 <PovAddict> like a year later, another tooth was in a similar bad state

16:25 <PovAddict> couldn't have it taken out

16:26 <FreeLarry58> wifey sue crimped plans to take care of my teeth this year

16:26 <FreeLarry58> *sure

16:26 <FreeLarry58> ouch just noticed time - got to get ready for road

16:26 <PovAddict> I just started shaking and screaming before the dentist could even *start putting the anesthesic*

16:26 <PovAddict> my subconcious remembered the previous experience

16:27 <Tank_Master> hf

16:27 <PovAddict> so that tooth is still there

16:27 <FreeLarry58> lol can relate PovAddict

16:27 <FreeLarry58> &bye all off to w/*-

16:27 <Romulus> later ace

16:27 <PovAddict> I'll wait for someone to invent a device to selectively delete memories, or when they can take the tooth out without me being concious

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16:55 <efc> &wx 30625

16:55 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 46F / 8C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1028hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 20s. North winds up to 10 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 20s. Light and (1 more message)

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16:57 <PovAddict> hey efc, how long would you take to download 100MB?

16:59 * efc begins receiving PovAddict's last line and will complete around midnight

16:59 <PovAddict> lol

16:59 <efc> around 5 hours

16:59 <efc> I've gotten CD ISOs before. "Resume" capability comes in very handy for that :p

17:00 <PovAddict> are you interested in one or two months' worth of Einstein@Home XML stats? (for... statistical purposes)

17:01 <efc> Hmm, for looking at things like cpus and OSs and stuff?

17:01 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany

17:01 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.36in / 994hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Rain. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 F. / -3 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:33 F. / 1 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Chance of Snow. High:32 F. / 0 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 (1 more message)

17:02 <PovAddict> umm actually it's only users and teams :/ I skipped host stats because those are too big

17:02 <PovAddict> (my whole archive takes 100MB because I supercompressed it)

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> first snow today in Berlin

17:02 <PovAddict> the host stats alone for a single day are 100MB gzipped (but I use a better compression program)

17:03 <PovAddict> nice yoyo[RKN]

17:03 <efc> No thanks, Its interesting but I don't think I'd do that much with it

17:03 <efc> Unless John Conner's personal data is in there, then I must have it

17:03 <PovAddict> who's that?

17:03 <Romulus> or what drives many of the ATA crowd

17:03 <PovAddict> name sounds familiar

17:03 <Tank_Master> yoyo[RKN] - ever?

17:03 <PovAddict> stfu Romulus

17:03 <efc> the guy the Terminator is always trying to kill

17:04 <yoyo[RKN]> no, Tank_Master, for this winter

17:04 <Tank_Master> ahh

17:04 <Tank_Master> :)

17:04 <efc> August 4, 1997: efc begins to download xml stats at a logarithmic rate

17:05 <Tank_Master> so the longer ou d/l, the faster you d/l?

17:05 <efc> That would be exponential

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> it was announced since yesterday in the news

17:05 <efc> Logarithmic is the other way round

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> so today morning all streats where free, without cars :)

17:05 <Tank_Master> its only exponential if the rate of increase is increwasing

17:05 <yoyo[RKN]> streets

17:05 <efc> log is getting slower

17:06 <Tank_Master> log isnt just a downward trend

17:06 <efc> its getting slower very fast

17:07 <Tank_Master> then isnt that still exponential with negitive growth?

17:07 <Tank_Master> lod is where the rate of growth is decreasing with time

17:07 <efc> they are inverses, I think

17:07 <Tank_Master> log*

17:08 <efc> yeah, if b^y=x , then log base(b) of x = y

17:08 <PovAddict> log increases...

17:09 <efc> anyway, the modem stinks, that was the point

17:09 <Tank_Master> I increace my logs by cutting down mo trees

17:09 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok :P

17:10 <efc> You roll the trees down a bumpy hill and this creates a "log-o-rhythm"

17:10 <PovAddict> &grab efc

17:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

17:11 <PovAddict> what a pun >.<

17:11 <efc> That was the pun equivilent of Hiroshima

17:11 <PovAddict> ...

17:11 <PovAddict> &grab efc

17:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

17:12 <efc> This is the most action I've ever gotten

17:13 <Tank_Master> lol

17:13 <Tank_Master> how sad ;)

17:13 <PovAddict> &quotegrabs random

17:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: <Rookie_69> I wonder how many people are about to !@#& themselves?

17:13 <Tank_Master> .me thinks PervAddict is being to grabby

17:13 * Tank_Master thinks PervAddict is being to grabby

17:13 <PovAddict> not as grabby as a doctor I read about today in the news

17:13 <Tank_Master> oh?

17:13 <Romulus> Somebody said oh is it like SocialBorg, Tank_Master

17:13 <Tank_Master> linky

17:14 <Tank_Master> stfy, Romulus

17:14 <PovAddict> not sure you'd want a link...

17:14 <PovAddict> but ok...

17:14 <PovAddict>

17:14 <Romulus> <> (at

17:17 <Tank_Master> that goes int he wall of shame

17:26 <efc> If a professional is going to abuse his trust, then he should at least do something totally cool

17:26 <PovAddict> lol

17:27 <PovAddict> you think he did?

17:27 <efc> I'm going see if google can translate and then decide

17:27 <efc> Spanish or Portugese?

17:27 <PovAddict> spanish

17:29 <efc> "But before we took the opportunity to massage the buttocks with the excuse that it was not for him doliera the puncture"

17:29 <PovAddict> he told her it was so the injection didn't hurt

17:29 <PovAddict> BS, he just wanted to massage

17:30 <efc> Yes, that is not cool

17:31 <efc> The translations are great. Kirchner: "Every morning, the President says to me 'What got me vice president!"

17:31 <PovAddict> "Every morning, the President says to me 'what's this vice-president you got me?!'"

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17:36 * Rookie_69 is gonna be busy trying to find the fridge under that pile of dirt between his spurts of typing.

17:43 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:52 <CoderForLife> hello wdsmia Rookie_69

17:53 <Rookie_69> Hello wdsmia CoderForLife

17:57 <wdsmia> *lo Don

17:59 <Rookie_69> One good thing about being poor... All my food and stuff fit into my bar fridge that I brought up out of the van.

18:00 <wdsmia> I thought your Van was your walk in fridge

18:01 <Rookie_69> Only in the winter.

18:02 <Rookie_69> Doubles as a sauna in the summer.

18:03 <Rookie_69> ...Although this new(er) one actually has working AC.

18:05 <Rookie_69> Why does my water keep turning black? I'm washing the fridge, not the tub...

18:07 <wdsmia> growing mushrooms?

18:09 <CoderForLife> Shroom-head

18:11 <Rookie_69> Not sure what's growing, but hopefully the bleach will slow it down.

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18:22 <CoderForLife> I think I saw something like this on "The Twilight Zone"

18:23 <wdsmia> do do do do --- do do do do

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18:23 <CoderForLife> there he is

18:23 <xcam_mac> hola

18:23 <CoderForLife> hey Jay

18:23 <PovAddict> hey mexican Jay :)

18:23 <wdsmia> talk about The Twilight Zone  *lo Jay

18:23 <xcam_mac> 'lo Don

18:23 <CoderForLife> lol

18:23 <PovAddict> lol

18:23 <xcam_mac> and D0ug

18:24 <xcam_mac> er Doug even

18:25 <PovAddict> I think I have to reboot

18:25 <PovAddict> my SD reader stopped working

18:25 <xcam_mac> wazzup?

18:25 <CoderForLife> how's life down there?

18:25 <CoderForLife> going home soon?

18:25 <PovAddict> [397292.836614] scsi 8:0:0:3: rejecting I/O to dead device

18:25 <PovAddict> [397292.836617] scsi 8:0:0:3: [sde] READ CAPACITY failed

18:26 <xcam_mac> good enough

18:26 <CoderForLife> ugh Pov

18:26 <PovAddict> [397294.188196] usb 3-3: device descriptor read/64, error -62

18:26 <PovAddict> [397294.467876] usb 3-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7

18:26 <PovAddict> [397294.875402] usb 3-3: device not accepting address 7, error -62

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18:26 <xcam_mac> heading home sunday

18:27 <CoderForLife> ah  -  you've been gone awhile

18:27 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:27 <xcam_mac> would love to stay longer but....

18:28 <CoderForLife> vacation calls... =)

18:28 <xcam_mac> 'lo Glenn

18:28 <CoderForLife> good to chat

18:28 <CoderForLife> thx for stopping in

18:29 <xcam_mac> I mean stay here longer

18:29 <CoderForLife> ah =)

18:29 <CoderForLife> sure

18:30 <Rookie_69> Nah... Too much warm water and too many sandy beaches.

18:30 <xcam_mac> avoiding the cold at all costs...

18:31 <xcam_mac> ya think?

18:31 <Rookie_69> Snow has fallen here :-(

18:31 <CoderForLife> about time for these guys to visit here

18:31 <xcam_mac> it did get a bit cold last night

18:32 <xcam_mac> like...55F

18:32 <CoderForLife> dang frigid

18:32 <wdsmia> try 9F this morning

18:32 <Rookie_69> -7C here this AM.

18:32 <xcam_mac> that's damn cold

18:32 <CoderForLife> wdsmia was counting degrees without taking off his shoes

18:33 <PovAddict> &wx eze

18:33 <wdsmia> lol

18:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 F. / 26 (1 more message)

18:33 <xcam_mac> &wx mmlp

18:33 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Temperature: 84°F / 29°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 3:48 PM MST; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Overcast. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Overcast. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Overcast. Low:66 F. / 19 C.;

18:33 <PovAddict> :o

18:33 <PovAddict> what time is it?

18:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

18:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 24.1F / -4.4C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 31.96in / 1082.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the lower 20s. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of light (1 more message)

18:34 <wdsmia> &more

18:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: snow in the morning... then a chance of freezing drizzle and light snow in the afternoon. High in the mid 30s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:34 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

18:34 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 27.7°F / -2.4°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 7:34 PM AST; Tonight - Becoming cloudy this evening. Snow at times heavy and blowing snow beginning late this evening. Amount 15 cm(5.8 in). Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Wind becoming (2 more messages)

18:34 <MTughan> PovAddict: People at MilkyWay are wanting to set up test applications, but don't know how.

18:35 <PovAddict> too bad?

18:35 <MTughan> I was wondering if you had a page or something to help.

18:35 * PovAddict thinks next month he'll create a paypal account and start charging for BOINC server support

18:35 <MTughan> Or if there's something on the BOINC Wiki... brb

18:36 <MTughan> lol

18:36 <xcam_mac> me?

18:36 <Romulus> I guess me is just a better 98 isnt it, xcam_mac

18:36 <PovAddict> yes xcam_mac

18:36 <PovAddict> hope you aren't getting 29C at midnight or something :)

18:36 <xcam_mac> nope

18:37 <xcam_mac> it's 4:37

18:37 <PovAddict> hmmm I might take this opportunity

18:37 <xcam_mac> pm

18:37 <MTughan> Hmm, nothing on the wiki.

18:37 <PovAddict> MTughan: I'll help them when their credits get sane ;)

18:38 <xcam_mac> I'm just not looking forward to winter....

18:38 <MTughan> lol

18:39 <xcam_mac> I used to love it...

18:39 <PovAddict> MTughan: forum link?

18:40 <PovAddict> all I can see is they already have it set up

18:40 <xcam_mac> I WANT MY GLOBAL WARMING!

18:40 <MTughan>

18:40 <Romulus> <> (at

18:40 <PovAddict> ugh huge thread

18:41 <MTughan> That's why I got you a specific post. Doesn't help with download speeds though...

18:41 <PovAddict> and BOINC forum (like all other web forums) is more primitive than what people used a decade ago (NNTP), and will mark the whole thread as read even if I don't read all posts

18:41 <xcam_mac> lol... mw credit orgasm?

18:42 <MTughan> MilkyWay released new applications a couple days ago.

18:42 <xcam_mac> auto download?

18:42 <PovAddict> xcam_mac: it's in testing, apparently you have to change some project option to get it

18:42 <PovAddict> lol -> "Airport timing -- you know, the plane is going to board in 20 minutes, you come back in 20 minutes and ask, and you get told it hasn't changed, the plane will board in 20 minutes."

18:44 <xcam_mac> sounds about right

18:46 <xcam_mac> bad enough I dont get home till around midnight sunday

18:47 <xcam_mac> if everything goes exactly right

18:47 <wdsmia> only if you have to be at work at 7AM monday

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18:48 <wdsmia> wb

18:48 <xcam_mac> oops..

18:49 <xcam_mac> &wx 12074

18:49 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Temperature: 21.7F / -5.7C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 15. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. (1 more message)

18:49 <xcam_mac> good heavens.

18:49 <xcam_mac> &more

18:49 <Romulus> xcam_mac: Cold with lows around 17. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

18:49 <xcam_mac> yikes.

18:50 <MTughan> I read that as "Cows with lolds..." o_O

18:52 <PovAddict> 40% thread read

18:52 <xcam_mac> have to go off to dinner soon

18:53 <xcam_mac> so later for now....

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18:53 <CoderForLife> TC

18:53 * CoderForLife regrets yelling

18:53 <KathrynM> when people call my cell with the wrong number, why can't the figure out they have the wrong number when I try to talk to them in English?

18:54 <PovAddict> lol

18:54 <CoderForLife> entertainment value?

18:54 <PovAddict> hmm

18:54 <PovAddict> I think a big solution to many problems would be making the BOINC server harder to use

18:54 <KathrynM> at least this one seemed sober

18:54 <KathrynM> lol

18:54 <PovAddict> I keep seeing this kind of thing:

18:54 <PovAddict> "The most frequent opinion of these guys was that the project admins can't possibly know what they are doing."

18:55 <PovAddict> (from seeing their science app source code)

18:55 <CoderForLife> I'm show glad they werb shober

18:55 <wdsmia> lol

18:55 <PovAddict> if BOINC was harder to use, people who don't know what they are doing wouldn't succeed at *installing the server*

18:55 <PovAddict> kind of natural selection

18:56 <KathrynM> hmmm, someone seems to think because I'm a moderator at E@H, I can translate one of the pages to Italian...

18:56 <PovAddict> lol

18:56 * KathrynM put in her babelfish

18:57 <KathrynM> weird, that movie was on earlier (like 5 AM) and I had to watch it because I was thinking of *cough* aquiring it

18:57 <KathrynM> Just finished the book about a week ago

18:58 <PovAddict> "As far as I can guess from my Boinc experience, projects generally have scientific skills, poor programming skills and "hope it can deal with" hardware."

18:58 <Rookie_69> Hi, K!

18:58 <KathrynM> hmmmm, guess I should actually get around to testing the 6.4.1 build on Linux...

18:58 <KathrynM> scary, they want to release 6..4.2

18:59 <KathrynM> has there ever been a stable release with a thrid digit that low?

18:59 * PovAddict points at the .45

18:59 <PovAddict> I think it won't be that bad

18:59 <Rookie_69> Brake cleaner seems to have worked to remove those stains off of the outside of the fridge...

18:59 <PovAddict> think they dropped all manager changes

18:59 <PovAddict> the manager is 6.2's

19:00 <MTughan> Yes, they dropped all manager changes.

19:00 <PovAddict> and well, not everything works in even 6.2 core client (see #778 recently filed)

19:00 <PovAddict> &bticket 778

19:00 <Romulus>

19:00 * wdsmia loades the .45 and points it at PovAddict

19:00 <PovAddict> :|

19:02 <PovAddict> "The optimized applications make MilkyWay look to the larger BOINC world to be something of a scam project."

19:03 <wdsmia> do 100 times the work and your a cheater

19:04 <PovAddict> that's because the official app is *stupid code*

19:04 <PovAddict> think about it negatively... everyone else doing 100 times less work :P

19:05 <Rookie_69> That's not cheating... That's using the system.

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19:09 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go wtach some TeeVee until I  pass out

19:09 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:09 <KathrynM> PovAddict, can you try to reproduce something for me?

19:09 <KathrynM> night CoderForLife

19:09 <PovAddict> I'm fanning flames on MW forum

19:09 <KathrynM> lol

19:09 <KathrynM> if you have two WUs running and try to display graphics for both, do you lose status information for both?

19:10 <KathrynM> Trying to determine if this is a BOINC alpha problem or a BOINC problem.

19:13 <Rookie_69> 42.

19:13 <MTughan> lol

19:15 * Rookie_69 wonders if Michael might be one of the next generation of Douglas Adams fans.

19:16 <PovAddict> &google calc the answer to life, the universe, and everything

19:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: the answer to life, the universe, and everything = 42

19:16 <PovAddict> faster than Deep Thought

19:17 <KathrynM> lol

19:17 * Rookie_69 is afraid that Nic might be onr too.

19:17 <Rookie_69> ... one...

19:17 <PovAddict> wtf

19:17 <PovAddict> LHC has no Linux graphics?

19:18 <Soul_keeper> write them an angry e-mail :)

19:18 <PovAddict> yeah right

19:18 <PovAddict> they haven't updated the app in years

19:19 <Rookie_69> Graphics only slows down the app anyways.

19:20 <Soul_keeper> yeah but some people like to look at fluffy cute stuff ....

19:20 <KathrynM> nope, no graphics for LHC

19:20 <KathrynM> what projects do have Linux graphics?

19:20 <Rookie_69> That's why I have a pillow.

19:20 <PovAddict> well I have no other project with graphics atm

19:20 <PovAddict> I'm doing PrimeGrid heavily

19:21 <PovAddict> PrimeGrid having a Linux screensaver depends on *me*

19:21 <KathrynM> I guess I'll (ab)use E@H

19:21 <KathrynM> I don't think Bruce will get too pissed :)

19:22 * wdsmia slaps Soul_keeper with some fluffy cute stuff

19:22 <Soul_keeper> i've seen graphics for einstein and wcg, but they work sporatically

19:23 <Soul_keeper> only certain subprojects/wu's on certain versions/days

19:23 <Soul_keeper> must take too much time to implement

19:24 <wdsmia> fancy graphics takes away from crunching

19:26 <KathrynM> boinc alpha issue.  e@h works fine

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19:34 <KathrynM> wtf is this?  "#  In the Projects tab, select a project and click Properties; check that a dialog appears showing correct project info. "

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19:39 <Tank_Master> KM!

19:39 <PovAddict> &last --nolimit

19:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: [19:39:27] <Tank_Master> KM!, [19:34:22] <KathrynM> wtf is this?  "#  In the Projects tab, select a project and click Properties; check that a dialog appears showing correct project info. ", [19:26:42] <KathrynM> boinc alpha issue.  e@h !@#&s fine, [19:24:11] <wdsmia> fancy graphics takes away from crunching, [19:23:29] <Soul_keeper> must take too much time to implement, [19:23:20] (50 more messages)

19:40 <PovAddict> KathrynM: tell Rom to remove that testcase

19:40 <PovAddict> that feature is disabled

19:40 <Tank_Master> stfu, romAddict

19:40 <Tank_Master> :P

19:40 <Soul_keeper> wdsmia, that's why you only look at the graphics once and say "cool"  but some of us like saying "cool"

19:41 <efc> Ah, I missed another credits discussion. Life is good.

19:41 <Rookie_69> Moo!

19:42 <Rookie_69> All work and no moo makes moo a moo moo,,, wait, wasn't that Moe?

19:44 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Getting there... Take out a couple more moos, and you'll fit right in to the general population.

19:44 <MTughan> That includes from your nick. :P

19:45 <efc> Moo too.

19:46 <Rookie_69> All work and no 69 makes Rookie a dull moo???

19:46 <efc> The whole computer army is ready to keep me warm tonight. Except my p200, which seems to have died :(

19:46 * efc raises the BOINC flag at half staff.

19:47 * Rookie_69 should be resurrecting more boxes.

19:48 <efc> That was my oldest functional box. Now it runs ram test, says WAIT...  and never continues

19:48 <efc> and i broke off the stupid heat sink tab fiddling with it. I hate those things.

19:49 <Rookie_69> You're just not waiting long enough... Try infinity.

19:51 * efc tries. Waiting...

19:51 <MTughan> Thanks Rookie_69. You've disposed of efc once and for all.

19:51 <Rookie_69> LOl.

19:52 <Rookie_69> ... but as young as he is, EFC is one of the old guys here...

19:54 <KathrynM> Did I call it?  "We won’t be able to release 6.4 today, a last minute bug was detected with the work fetch policy when running a CUDA based application."

19:54 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:54 <Tank_Master> yeah

19:54 <Tank_Master> not suprising

19:54 <Rookie_69> I wonder if there's an &first seen command here somewhere...

19:56 <efc> I think I waited long enough

19:56 <MTughan> Aw...

19:56 <efc> And it did seem to go to the next error

20:00 <efc> infinity is shorter than I thought

20:07 <efc> now its booting, retarded thing

20:08 <MTughan> Wow, I'm behind... PovAddict: Last info I had gotten, they were trying to do it and had asked. I didn't see anything else that said they had gotten it set up. Oh well, you probably had a chance to blow off some steam. :P

20:10 <Tank_Master> MT!

20:10 <MTughan> Took you long enough... :P

20:10 <Tank_Master> ?

20:10 <Tank_Master> lol

20:10 <wdsmia> &insult Tank_Master

20:10 <Romulus> Tank_Master - You are nothing but a gorbellied bucket of ill-borne rat.

20:10 <MTughan> Look at the history, you'll see what I mean.

20:10 * Tank_Master sends 8735 lampfishes after wdsmia

20:11 * wdsmia eats 8734

20:11 <Rookie_69> Are lampfishes good to eat?

20:11 <MTughan> You're keeping one?

20:11 <MTughan> lol, that one didn't even occur to me...

20:11 <Rookie_69> For me.

20:12 <wdsmia> saving one for my pizza

20:12 <Tank_Master> hehe

20:12 <Rookie_69> Mmm... lampfish pizza...

20:12 <wdsmia> with garlic

20:13 <wdsmia> yum

20:13 <Rookie_69> Is that anything like lumpfish?... I love lumpfish.

20:13 <Tank_Master> could try butterfish on your toast

20:14 <Rookie_69> &google lumpfish

20:14 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Search took 0.13 seconds: Lumpsucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>; Lumpfish: <>; Lumpfish Close Up | Popular Science: <>; Lumpfish: <>; YouTube - Lumpfish !: (2 more messages)

20:14 <PovAddict> o.0

20:14 <Tank_Master> lol, lumpsucker?

20:14 <PovAddict> that's what I thought

20:14 <Tank_Master> lumpsucka!

20:15 <Rookie_69> Maybe I mean monkfish...

20:15 <wdsmia> you think?

20:16 <Rookie_69> &google monkfish

20:16 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Search took 0.14 seconds: Monkfish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>; Monkfish Information: <>; Monkfish - Seafood Watch | Monterey Bay Aquarium: <>; Monkfish Steamed - The Poor Man's Lobster: (2 more messages)

20:16 <Tank_Master> monk.. I need a monk!

20:16 <Tank_Master> &google rookiefish

20:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Search took 0.08 seconds: Baseball Musings: Rookie Fish: <>; Message Boards - View Profile: rookiefish: <>; need an answer so i can git my tank going again - Saltwaterfish ...: <>; Kemp Delf! - World Sea (2 more messages)

20:17 <wdsmia> &more Tank_Master

20:17 <Romulus> wdsmia: Fishing Forums: <>; True Believer by Joseph Ruben on DVD: <>; Fish Tale at The Age of Aquariums - Tropical Fish: <>; New International Protection Ahead for Marine Sanctuaries Monitor ...: (1 more message)

20:17 <wdsmia> &more Tank_Master

20:17 <Romulus> wdsmia: Fishing Forums: <>; True Believer by Joseph Ruben on DVD: <>; Fish Tale at The Age of Aquariums - Tropical Fish: <>; New International Protection Ahead for Marine Sanctuaries Monitor ...: (1 more message)

20:17 <Tank_Master> &more

20:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Fishing Forums: <>; True Believer by Joseph Ruben on DVD: <>; Fish Tale at The Age of Aquariums - Tropical Fish: <>; New International Protection Ahead for Marine Sanctuaries Monitor ...: (1 more message)

20:17 <Tank_Master> &more

20:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: <>; Tag: boston sports | Gather: <>; The Adventure of the Two Ronnies: <>; Search Books By Tag: <>

20:17 <PovAddict> flood

20:17 <MTughan> Bugger off you two...

20:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

20:18 <Tank_Master> uh oh

20:18 <Tank_Master> :P

20:18 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

20:23 <wdsmia> j/k

20:23 <efc> plugged everything back in, now it won't boot anymore

20:24 <wdsmia> you remember the power cord?

20:24 <Rookie_69> Use a bigger hammer.

20:25 <efc> this thing was junk from day one. Mid 90s Biostar motherboard.

20:26 <wdsmia> 20 year old pos

20:29 <efc> I should drop a low end dual core in there and toss that thing. 'Course, its an AT case.

20:30 <Tank_Master> an atom chip would probably outdo it

20:31 <wdsmia> Q6600 are cheap

20:31 <efc> atm its got a cyrix 166 in it, gets about 50 mflops

20:31 <efc> if it would boot

20:32 <efc> this is more for museum purposes

20:32 * wdsmia sends efc a uvax

20:32 <PovAddict> hmm

20:33 <PovAddict> I was writing a raytracer in Javascript with a friend

20:33 <Tank_Master> why?

20:33 <PovAddict> I wonder how it would compare...

20:33 <PovAddict> JS raytracer on modern computer

20:33 <PovAddict> vs

20:33 <PovAddict> optimized C++ raytracer on efc's museum computer

20:33 <MTughan> lol

20:36 <efc> I sold my microvax :P

20:36 <efc> and 9-track tape drive, made some money on that one

20:37 <Rookie_69> Should I dig out my DX2-66 with 16 1meg simms?

20:37 <PovAddict> I think a friend still has the Palm IIIc I gave him

20:37 <efc> I'll take it

20:37 <PovAddict> 20MHz CPU and 8MB of RAM

20:37 <efc> I also have a 386, but it won't boot either

20:37 <PovAddict> my dad's Palm had the same specs as my old computer -_-'

20:37 <PovAddict> 400MHz

20:38 <PovAddict> heh I used to have Lemmings for that Palm

20:39 <PovAddict> (the IIIc)

20:39 <PovAddict> on the Zire I could only play the 10 demo levels though

20:40 <wdsmia> playing games takes away from crunching

20:40 <PovAddict> ...

20:41 <PovAddict> a 20MHz palm with no network conectivity cannot crunch anyway

20:49 <wdsmia> NN Glenn

20:49 <Rookie_69> NN.

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21:04 <efc> 386 still won't boot. Seek error on floppy 0 or something like that.

21:04 <Tank_Master> haha

21:05 <Tank_Master> :P

21:06 <efc> stuff goes bad just sitting there.

21:10 <efc> worst layout ever, the PS and floppies are bolted on top of the motherboard, can't get to anything

21:21 * wdsmia goes to sit in front of the fireplace with a nice glass of wine

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22:11 <efc> well, acid seems to have eaten the traces on this motherboard, thats probably bad

22:12 <efc>

22:12 <Romulus> <> (at

22:14 <MTughan> efc: Nice...

22:14 <efc> i don't wanna throw it out :((

22:15 <efc> 7404 on motherboard, don't see that much anymore :)

22:27 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> hmmmm

22:27 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> local cops are getting drunk at bars now "to learn how to better spot criminals"

22:27 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> apparently it's "training" for the dui task force

22:27 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> so the cops get payed to get drunk now

22:46 <efc> Nice work if you can get it.

22:48 <wdsmia> Soul_keeper its a dirty job but someone has to do it

22:50 <MTughan> wdsmia: That is such a bad joke...

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23:25 <efc> 4 computers on in here and its only 68.4 F

23:26 <MTughan> lol

23:26 <wdsmia> turn on a few more

23:26 <efc> 2 dead ones

23:26 <efc> 32.0 outside

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