00:18 <Soul_keeper> MW = more wank ?
00:18 <Soul_keeper> MW = milwakee ?
00:19 <Tank_Master> wilky wanker
00:20 <Tank_Master> milky*
00:21 <efc> &wx 31088
00:21 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds.; Monday - A slight chance of rain in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; (1 more message)
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02:31 <Soul_keeper> perl is annoying as hell
02:32 <Soul_keeper> so easy to do things in bash, then when i want to do them in perl it's a nightmare
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02:35 <efc> holy /[.]\, batman
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02:45 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366
02:45 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 35.8°F / 2.1°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog late. Lows in the 30s. South wind to 10 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Patchy morning fog. Highs in the upper 40s to mid 50s. Light wind.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the 30s to lower (1 more message)
02:45 <FreeLarry58> &more
02:45 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: 40s. South wind to 10 mph.;
02:46 <FreeLarry58> humm first time furnance started running instead of heatpump so below 41F currently
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05:19 <Soul_keeper> ok
05:24 <CoderForLife> wow - for the first time in a long time the alarm woke me up this morning
05:24 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 37.0°F / 2.8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain showers until mid afternoon...then rain showers likely. Highs in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming southwest 10 to 15 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of (1 more message)
05:24 <CoderForLife> &more
05:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain and snow showers in the evening...then a slight chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows around 30. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Tuesday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Near steady temperatures in the lower 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;
05:34 <CoderForLife> bbiab
05:46 <PovAddict> yawn
05:59 <KathrynM> love it
06:10 <CoderForLife> back
06:10 <CoderForLife> morning
06:14 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM
06:18 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - laterz
06:30 <PovAddict> ditto
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07:03 <hawmps> 'lo
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07:57 <PovAdct_w> ...
07:57 <PovAdct_w> how the hell did I manage to forget my cellphone and my wallet at home?!
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08:52 <Welshman> Yo
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09:03 <jackygrahamez> Hi guys, I got a permission issue :-(
09:08 <Welshman> and how does that have to do with Boinc?
09:09 <Welshman> still help you tho :)
09:09 <jackygrahamez> Its a pre-alpha BOSSA I'm setting up for some friends pitching it to their employer
09:09 <jackygrahamez> It looks like I got a permission issue
09:10 <Welshman> its says a permissions thing
09:10 <Welshman> alter the permissions
09:10 <PovAdct_w> see the apache error log
09:10 <jackygrahamez> Thing is I'm comparing the permissions to what I got on my working project, and I must be missing something
09:11 <PovAdct_w> what is in that directory?
09:11 <jackygrahamez> so far they have not been very descriptive
09:11 <PovAdct_w> try to access a *file*
09:11 <PovAdct_w> maybe Apache has directory listing disabled
09:11 <Welshman> if there is a htaccess file in there delete it
09:11 <jackygrahamez> (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
09:13 <jackygrahamez> no htaccess apparently
09:13 <Welshman> search hidden files
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09:15 <Welshman> via root shh
09:15 <Welshman> ssh
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09:16 <jackygrahamez> I did a find via root
09:17 <Welshman> rm it
09:17 <PovAdct_w> rm what, the root?
09:17 <Welshman> you should have access tyhen
09:17 <PovAdct_w> what is the DocumentRoot?
09:17 <Welshman> then create a new if you want it protected$
09:18 <PovAdct_w> Welshman: he said there was no .htaccess
09:18 <Welshman> I see he found?
09:18 <PovAdct_w> "I did a find via root" = "I ran 'find' from root" but didn't necessarily return something
09:19 <Welshman> ah
09:19 <Welshman> language again :)
09:19 <Welshman> I think you will find its that way though
09:20 <jackygrahamez> I did not find it
09:20 <jackygrahamez> find . -name ".htaccess" -print
09:20 <Welshman> its a simple command
09:20 <Welshman> go to the dir and type
09:20 <Welshman> I firget
09:20 <Welshman> ls -h
09:20 <Welshman> no*
09:21 <Welshman> $its shows all
09:21 <PovAdct_w> jackygrahamez: what is the dir with the DocumentRoot?
09:22 <Welshman> ls -a
09:22 <Welshman> type that
09:22 <jackygrahamez> one sec
09:22 <Welshman> in your main problem dir
09:23 <jackygrahamez> DocumentRoot "/home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html/user"
09:23 <Welshman> even the one above it
09:23 <Welshman> its the .htaccess your looking for
09:23 <jackygrahamez> Same as I have it on Hydrogen
09:23 <Welshman> I think
09:23 <PovAdct_w> jackygrahamez: is there a <Directory "/home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html/user">Allow from All</Directory> directive in the configuration?
09:24 <jackygrahamez> Order allow,deny
09:24 <jackygrahamez> Allow from all
09:25 <jackygrahamez> also
09:25 <jackygrahamez> llowOverride None
09:25 <jackygrahamez> AllowOverride None
09:25 <PovAdct_w> "AllowOverride None" means even if there was a .htaccess, it wouldn't take effect
09:25 <jackygrahamez> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
09:26 <jackygrahamez> These apache issues sure are fund :-)
09:26 <jackygrahamez> fun :-d
09:27 <PovAdct_w> #apache
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09:28 <jackygrahamez> good idea
09:32 <Welshman> rm the file via root I mean
09:33 <PovAdct_w> ...
09:33 <Welshman> the .htaccess
09:33 <PovAdct_w> there is none
09:33 <Welshman> thats his problem I think
09:33 <Welshman> so he says
09:33 <PovAdct_w> and the main apache config has .htaccess disabled, so they won't be read anyway
09:34 <Welshman> suddenly the wabpage is a spam page
09:34 <Welshman> webpage
09:35 <Welshman> thats my problem
09:36 <Welshman> its a permmissions thing on the publuc html dir
09:36 <Welshman> geez
09:36 <Welshman> *public
09:37 <Welshman> he just has to allow access
09:37 <Welshman> so
09:38 <Welshman> its simple chmod or delete a .htaccess file
09:38 <Welshman> is there a boinc-offtopic lol
09:39 <PovAdct_w> are you drunk again?
09:39 <Welshman> halfway
09:39 <Welshman> lol
09:39 <PovAdct_w> thought so
09:40 <Welshman> drunk or sober neither have solved his answer
09:40 <Welshman> so dont say one way is the better
09:42 <jackygrahamez> ok #apache folks tell me its a filesystem permission issue
09:43 <PovAdct_w> ls -ld /home /home/boincadm /home/boincadm/projects /home/boincadm/projects/mothership /home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html /home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html/user
09:43 <Welshman> what does it tell you?
09:44 <Welshman> one thing for sure, it's not a boinc issue
09:45 <Welshman> and it is certainly to do with basic permissions on folders and directories.
09:45 <jackygrahamez> usually is at this stage
09:45 <jackygrahamez> at least for me
09:45 <Welshman> jackygrahamez u use windows at all?
09:46 <jackygrahamez> never for hosting
09:46 <Welshman> your desktop tho
09:46 <Welshman> get bitvise
09:47 <Welshman> ssh in and use the sftp to change permissions on directories
09:47 <Welshman> its very good and very safe
09:47 <Welshman> and free
09:49 <Romulus> Title: Tunnelier (Bitvise) (at www.bitvise.com)
09:50 <Welshman> just right click directories and change permissions
09:50 <Welshman> play about a nit
09:50 <Welshman> a bit
09:51 <PovAdct_w> jackygrahamez: did you run my long ls -ld command? pastebin its output
09:52 <Welshman> what does that do?
09:57 <jackygrahamez> I was going to but I'm a little slow, at work
09:58 <jackygrahamez> And For whatever reason the Icechat client is not letting me copy and paste
10:00 <jackygrahamez> ah there we go
10:01 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
10:05 <PovAdct_w> wtf, the directory doesn't even exist
10:05 <PovAdct_w> hmm or does it
10:05 <PovAdct_w> weird
10:05 <PovAdct_w> anyway
10:05 <PovAdct_w> chmod o+x /home/boincadm
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10:09 <jackygrahamez> ok it got rid of that 403 message!
10:09 <jackygrahamez> blank screen though
10:10 <jackygrahamez> clears the way for some better error logs
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10:36 <hawmps> re-hi
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11:23 <Romulus> Title: MotherShip@Home (at mothershipathome.org)
11:23 <MTughan> Yes, and no frames. :P
11:25 <jackygrahamez> how about the forums now?
11:25 <jackygrahamez> I just ran the create forums script
11:25 <MTughan> So it seems. It looks fine.
11:26 <jackygrahamez> great I think my friend's list of domains needs updating
11:26 <jackygrahamez> he sees it now
11:27 <jackygrahamez> has anyone here setup a bossa before?
11:27 <MTughan> Not me. Pov just left about a half hour ago.
11:28 <jackygrahamez> ok I should rtfm
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12:21 <jackygrahamez> I'm getting this error on bossa_admin.php
12:21 <jackygrahamez> PHP Fatal error: Cannot redeclare show_app() (previously declared in /home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html/ops/bossa_admin.php:37) in /home/boincadm/projects/mothership/html/inc/db_ops.inc on line 815
12:23 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm, jackygrahamez removed my account
12:24 <MTughan> lol
12:24 <yoyo[RKN]> and what is bossa?
12:24 <Romulus> Title: BossaIntro - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
12:25 <MTughan> Looks like volunteer based with the volunteers actually donating their time rather than their CPU time.
12:26 <yoyo[RKN]> like searching something on a picture with volunteer eyes
12:26 <MTughan> IIRC, it was Stardust@Home that used it before.
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12:27 <MTughan> Yes, Stardust is the one I participated in.
12:28 <jackygrahamez> I'm not sure is Fold-It a BOSSA?
12:29 <MTughan> Not sure. Could be.
12:29 <MTughan> It references Rosetta@Home.
12:29 <jackygrahamez> I'm not sure how much my friend wants me to reveal since we are at a pre-alpha stage and they are pitching it to their boss
12:30 <MTughan> That's fine. I don't know much about Bossa anyway.
12:31 <jackygrahamez> For the work they are doing, it makes more sense to do a BOSSA
12:32 <jackygrahamez> sorry about that Yoyo
12:33 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)
12:33 <jackygrahamez> My friend and I were giggling when we saw you 5 minutes after we set the darn thing up
12:33 <jackygrahamez> we were trying to put it on the same server as Hydrogen but running into some heartache
12:36 <MTughan> lol... Big fail on the university's part here. They just upgraded the email services, adding a new subdomain for it. But they forgot to update the SSL cert to match the new name. xD
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12:37 <jackygrahamez> woops
12:43 <jackygrahamez> It looks like show_app is declared twice, I get this message even when I comment it in either location
12:52 <yoyo[RKN]> can somebody here translate a text from german or english to any other language?
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14:33 <hawmps> re-hi
14:34 <Tank_Master> re-wb
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16:40 <CoderForLife> home again
16:41 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
16:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 44.2°F / 6.8°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.9mph / 4.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered rain showers this evening... then scattered snow showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; (1 more message)
16:45 <CoderForLife> &more
16:45 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Tuesday - Cloudy with scattered snow showers. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy with isolated snow showers in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.;
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16:47 <CoderForLife> wb xcamel
16:47 <xcamel> re-hi
16:47 <CoderForLife> how was the trip home?
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16:50 <xcamel> very good for once...considering...
16:54 <CoderForLife> good
16:54 <CoderForLife> everything in order when you got home?
17:01 <xcamel> mostly
17:01 <xcamel> need to reboot - brb
17:03 <Tank_Master> hf
17:05 <xcamel> or not..
17:07 <xcamel> weird time issue
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17:14 <xcamel> still tired as hell, and not liking this weather one friggin bit.
17:15 <CoderForLife> I imagine not
17:15 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123
17:15 <Tank_Master> &more
17:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
17:15 <Tank_Master> &more
17:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 51.6°F / 10.9°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs 50 to 55. Light wind becoming northeast 5 to 10 mph...except east wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph near The Gorge decreasing late.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy. (1 more message)
17:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Areas of fog developing overnight...mainly away from The Gorge. Lows 30 to 40. Light wind...except east wind 15 to 20 mph near The Gorge.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. A chance of rain...mainly during the afternoon. Highs around 50. Light wind except east 10 to 15 mph near The Gorge...becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.;
17:15 <CoderForLife> too many lats and longs at one time
17:15 <MTughan> Lazy idiot...
17:16 <xcamel> moi?
17:16 <Tank_Master> clear and 52f here
17:16 <MTughan> No, TM. Tries to overrun Rommie.
17:16 <Tank_Master> clear and 52f here
17:16 <Tank_Master> clear and 52f here
17:16 <Tank_Master> &more
17:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
17:16 <Tank_Master> &more
17:16 <Tank_Master> &more
17:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
17:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
17:16 <xcamel> cloudy and 32, impending snow/heavy rain
17:16 <MTughan> And a spammer...
17:17 <Tank_Master> its not my fault rommie is slow
17:17 <MTughan> So now you're insulting Jay's internet connection?
17:17 <Tank_Master> no
17:17 <xcamel> no, he's just insulting
17:17 <Tank_Master> just the bot
17:17 <Tank_Master> that to :P
17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:17 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
17:17 <Tank_Master> re-wb
17:18 <wdsmia> *lo Jay WB
17:18 <MTughan> Keep in mind that the machine's probably running BOINC too. I can't see anyone on here allocating one machine for a bot. :P
17:18 <xcamel> nice to be using a real keyboard again
17:18 <MTughan> 'lo Doug
17:18 <Tank_Master> lol MT, to true
17:18 <Tank_Master> unleass its some 486
17:18 <wdsmia> *lo Michael
17:18 <xcamel> yepp - and rom is running 2 instances on a lightweight dual
17:19 <xcamel> and some other things
17:19 <xcamel> like piespy, and the channel logger
17:20 <xcamel> and a java based auto ftp server for same
17:21 <xcamel> oh, and skype
17:21 <xcamel> &wx 12074
17:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 32.2°F / 0.1°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of rain this evening...then rain and snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Near steady temperature in the mid 30s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tuesday - (2 more messages)
17:21 <MTughan> lol
17:21 <xcamel> *more
17:21 <xcamel> &more
17:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Snow in the morning. Rain. Additional snow accumulation a dusting. Near steady temperature in the mid 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of snow showers. Near steady temperature in the lower 30s. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming south after midnight.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County (1 more message)
17:21 <xcamel> &more
17:21 <Romulus> xcamel: in effect until 12:00 AM EST on November 26, 2008;
17:21 <xcamel> hmm... not that slow
17:21 <MTughan> First grab is slower.
17:21 <MTughan> &wx YOW
17:21 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM EST; Tonight - Cloudy. Periods of snow beginning this evening. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). Low -2C(28F).; Tuesday - Periods of snow. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). High 1C(34F). Tuesday night periods of wet snow. Amount 2 to 4 cm. Low 0C(32F).; (1 more message)
17:22 <MTughan> &more
17:22 <Romulus> MTughan: Wednesday - Snow. High 1C(34F).;
17:22 <MTughan> After that, it just has to grab the content from memory.
17:22 * xcamel needs a much longer nights sleep
17:22 <xcamel> 4 hours doesn't cut it.
17:22 <MTughan> Wet snow tomorrow? Crud...
17:22 <Tank_Master> snow is the best
17:23 <MTughan> Snow is, but wet snow just sucks.
17:23 <xcamel> yupper - coastal storm blowing in - you're on the cold side.
17:25 <xcamel> hmmm... I smell dinner.
17:25 <xcamel> american food even
17:25 <MTughan> I already had dinner. :D
17:26 <Tank_Master> you mean you smell McDonnelds?
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17:34 * KathrynM is awake :(
17:34 <MTughan> 'lo KathrynM
17:34 <KathrynM> hiya MTughan
17:34 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
17:34 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 36Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 7:28 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Clear. Low:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.; Clear. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.;
17:35 <KathrynM> and people are acting like it's cold here...
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17:44 <MTughan> What's the normal temperature there?
17:44 <MTughan> And 2C isn't exactly warm.
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17:49 <jackygrahamez> hi
17:49 <jackygrahamez> Hi KathrynM (F)
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17:52 <xcamel> go figure..
17:52 <xcamel> disconnected from the desktop..
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17:54 <xcamel> hate that..
17:59 <jackygrahamez> ok one question
17:59 <jackygrahamez> should the "BOSSA" project have daemons?
18:00 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to upgrade with the most recent SVN and it dies
18:00 <jackygrahamez> sh: /home/boincadm/projects/mothership/mothership/bin/stop: No such file or directory
18:00 <jackygrahamez> Couldn't stop project!
18:04 <xcamel> seems a bit strange - what's BOSSA?
18:05 <xcamel> &ping
18:05 <Romulus> pong
18:05 <jackygrahamez> oh its the distributed thinking middleware that distributes with BOINC
18:05 <jackygrahamez> not many people doing it
18:06 <jackygrahamez> I'll email David with my question
18:07 <xcamel> oh.. they should just change the name to BLOAT
18:10 <xcamel> or begin creating a version that is just pure tight fast project smashing code.
18:10 <xcamel> which is what real people want..
18:11 <jackygrahamez> Yes I should start my own middleware called OINK
18:11 <Tank_Master> hehe
18:11 <Tank_Master> or INK
18:11 <jackygrahamez> I have not thought so far what the accronym stands for
18:11 <xcamel> BINK?
18:14 <xcamel> I always like "B'OINK"
18:15 <xcamel> like G'Kar
18:30 <MTughan> That's really odd... Both hosts are now connected to the account manager, but none of the projects have shown up.
18:31 <CoderForLife> I'm away for the rest of the evening - good to have you back xcamel
18:31 <CoderForLife> gn folks
18:31 <Tank_Master> gn CFL
18:32 <wdsmia> cya Don
18:32 <MTughan> Night CFL.
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18:39 <Crewsr3> Does anyone know where the boinc history file is stored on a linux install. I'm rebilling my computer and I don't want to lose my hard earned history
18:40 <MTughan> What history?
18:40 <Crewsr3> My chart history
18:41 <Tank_Master> oh, you meen the log file for #boinc?
18:41 <Tank_Master> that depends on your setup
18:41 <MTughan> No, the Statistics tab...
18:41 <Crewsr3> I just don't like it when I do a clean install and my chart starts at what ever my last plot was
18:41 <Tank_Master> oh, hehe
18:41 <Tank_Master> read it as "chat history"
18:41 <Crewsr3> its not a problem just a person thing
18:42 <Crewsr3> I'm running ubuntu and Its not in the home folder any ideas where it could be
18:42 <Tank_Master> isnt that just an xml file in the BOINC folder?
18:42 <MTughan> I'm not quite sure where that's stored...
18:42 <Tank_Master> one xml for each project
18:42 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Probably, but where's the BOINC data folder? That's what he's asking.
18:43 <Tank_Master> just back up the entier BOIN directory, and you might be fine
18:43 <MTughan> I'll have to look up where the Ubuntu package installs that.
18:43 <Tank_Master> doesnt linux only have one folder?
18:43 <MTughan> Sure. But he installed it using a package, not from source.
18:43 <MTughan> Or a tar unzip.
18:43 <Crewsr3> I will try backing up the whole folder and then look for it
18:43 <Crewsr3> I installed with the package
18:44 <Crewsr3> from the ubuntu repos
18:44 <MTughan> /etc/default/boinc-client
18:44 <MTughan> Oops... /etc/boinc-client
18:44 <MTughan> Damn me again, I need to read this all through the first time... /var/lib/boinc-client.
18:46 <Crewsr3> is it a particular file? I'm concerned that is I install the program and then just copy over the old folder onto the new one that it could create a problem
18:46 <MTughan> The daemon startup script is in /etc/default/boinc-client, the executables are in /etc/boinc-client, and the data files (what you're looking for) are in /var/lib/boinc-client.
18:47 <MTughan> Yes, it would create a problem... Let me look over my installation, see if I can find it.
18:47 <Crewsr3> MTughan, Thanks for the good info
18:47 <MTughan> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu for more info.
18:47 <xcamel> back with coffee
18:48 <xcamel> 'yummy'
18:48 <Crewsr3> Romulus, it looks like boinc controls the data folder to prevent tampering
18:48 <Romulus> Crewsr3: Are you daft?
18:48 <Crewsr3> Romulus, daft? I'm not sure what you mean
18:48 <Romulus> Crewsr3: Are you daft?
18:48 <MTughan> Romulus is a bot... :P
18:48 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?
18:49 <MTughan> &cyborg Crewsr3
18:49 <Romulus> MTughan: C.R.E.W.S.R.: Cybernetic Robotic Exploration and Worldwide Sabotage Replicant
18:49 <Crewsr3> MTughan, I'm not but I'm going to write that one donw
18:49 <Crewsr3> down=donw
18:49 <MTughan> lol
18:50 <Crewsr3> Romulus, you know I might make a career change now that I know what Crewsr could stand for
18:50 <Romulus> Crewsr3: Are you daft?
18:51 <MTughan> Crewsr3: It's the statistics_*.xml files in /var/lib/boinc-client. Or it should be anyway.
18:51 <Crewsr3> Romulus, I can't say that I am
18:51 <Romulus> Crewsr3: Are you daft?
18:51 <MTughan> xcamel: You really need to add more rebukes.
18:51 <MTughan> &8ball Are you daft, Romulus?
18:51 <Romulus> MTughan: NO.
18:51 <MTughan> rofl
18:52 <Tank_Master> LOL
18:52 <Tank_Master> &8ball Do you make shyt up, Romulus?
18:52 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Come again?
18:52 <Tank_Master> :P
18:55 <Crewsr3> MTughan, Thanks I backed it up and not I'm ready to wip my computer and start over
18:55 <MTughan> The statistics stay online, you just would lose the graphs.
19:01 <Crewsr3> MTughan, True, I just want my graph and from what you told me about the stats file I should be able to restore it post clean install
19:05 <Crewsr3> wish me luck everyone and see you on the other side
19:05 <Tank_Master> hf
19:05 <MTughan> Hehe. Seeya.
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19:07 <xcamel> if we see you on the other side, we just flip you back over.
19:08 <MTughan> Like a bit?
19:09 <Tank_Master> someone flipped a bit?
19:09 <xcamel> no, like an ugly chick.
19:15 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You probably flipped multiple bits on many machines when you said that.
19:21 <Tank_Master> probably
19:26 <xcamel> needs to rebootz fer updatz
19:26 <xcamel> brb
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19:26 <MTughan> I need something to kick MW's ass with...
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19:32 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
19:32 <xcamel> there, that's a bit better..
19:32 <MTughan> I keep getting this when trying to get work for the new application: Mon 24 Nov 19:32:14 2008|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent
19:32 <xcamel> mucho updato
19:32 <MTughan> To top it off, it's coloured in red... >_>
19:33 <Tank_Master> good red or bad red?
19:34 <MTughan> Is there any other?
19:34 <MTughan> Mon 24 Nov 19:32:14 2008|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent
19:34 <MTughan> Any better?
19:34 <Tank_Master> nuteral red
19:34 <Tank_Master> thats more orenge
19:35 <MTughan> FF0000 colors, which is pure red.
19:36 <Tank_Master> came through as color 04
19:36 <MTughan> Looks red here.
19:39 <xcamel> another new ver of the project out - 0.4
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19:39 <xcamel> it does not state if there is any work for the beta code.
19:39 <MTughan> xcamel: Where?
19:39 <Romulus> I guess xcamel: Where are you trying to go, MTughan
19:40 <xcamel> on the mw website
19:40 <xcamel> main page
19:40 <MTughan> F off Rommie.
19:40 <MTughan> Latest I see on the forums is 0.3. Hold on a sec...
19:40 <MTughan> I just see 0.3
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19:48 <efc> Moo
19:48 <Tank_Master> howdy efc
19:48 <xcamel> 'lo e
19:49 <MTughan> Anyone know what the task duration factor is?
19:51 <xcamel> I'm still using astronomy_1.22
19:51 <xcamel> or seem to be
19:52 <xcamel> sorry - it was 0.3
19:52 <MTughan> astronomy is the old app.
19:58 <xcamel> no readme on how to make it
19:58 <xcamel> kinda sucks
19:58 <MTughan> bin/make.linux or bin/make.osx
19:59 <MTughan> Targets app_i686 or app_x86_64 for Linux, app_ppc app_i386 or app_x86_64 for Mac.
20:01 <xcamel> nope - can't find anything
20:01 <xcamel> wonder what compiler he used
20:05 <xcamel> weird
20:05 <MTughan> xcamel: "make -f make.linux app_i686" or something of the sort.
20:05 <Soul_keeper> it seems i spend my afternoons cussing at teenagers in video games ...
20:06 <Tank_Master> hehe
20:06 <Tank_Master> playing what?
20:07 <Soul_keeper> i only play ut and wesnoth
20:07 <Tank_Master> UT or UT3?
20:07 <Soul_keeper> the wesnoth crowd tends to be in HS and only half of them speak english
20:07 <Tank_Master> or one of the other great ones?
20:07 <Soul_keeper> UT original
20:07 <Tank_Master> ahh
20:07 <Tank_Master> nice
20:07 <Soul_keeper> never got into the new ones
20:07 <Tank_Master> I like UT3
20:08 <Soul_keeper> they never gave me my linux client for UT3
20:08 <Soul_keeper> i bought the game the day it came out on that promise
20:08 <Tank_Master> though U2 was probably the bect in termans of fun to play
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20:08 <Tank_Master> theres a server client I hear for linux
20:09 <Soul_keeper> some peice of software they license from some other company prevents them from making the linux client legally i guess
20:09 <Tank_Master> huh
20:09 <Tank_Master> that sucks
20:09 <Soul_keeper> yeah server works
20:09 <Tank_Master> nuttin like cutting out some of your potential buyers
20:09 <Soul_keeper> well they already took my money, guess i'm a sucker
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20:10 <Tank_Master> povy!
20:10 <Soul_keeper> quake4 has impressive graphics in linux tho
20:10 <Soul_keeper> doom3 as well
20:10 <Tank_Master> yeah
20:10 <Tank_Master> they arent bad
20:10 <Soul_keeper> i bought those just to look at the graphics :)
20:10 <Tank_Master> hehe
20:11 <Tank_Master> played doom 3 on my comp
20:11 <Tank_Master> havent recently though
20:11 <xcamel> looking at the makefile and the forum - it's a bit rough yet.
20:11 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/screenshots/shot00001.jpg
20:11 <MTughan> That's what I said...
20:11 <Soul_keeper> took that last year i guess
20:12 <Tank_Master> winder if itll look different now with my DX9 card
20:12 <PovAddict> hey
20:12 <PovAddict> 'sup
20:12 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Looks nice...
20:12 <Tank_Master> I thin I had a geforce 6800 when I tried playing doom3 last
20:12 <MTughan> Linux or Windows?
20:12 <Tank_Master> SK uses linux
20:13 <Soul_keeper> yeah i shot that dude in the face and stole his stuff
20:13 <MTughan> Cool...
20:13 <xcamel> that's 'abuses' to you...
20:13 <MTughan> lol
20:13 <MTughan> My roommate and I have been playing quite a bit of Rainbow Six Vegas 2 over the past few days. :P
20:14 <Tank_Master> nice
20:14 <Tank_Master> how is it?
20:14 <MTughan> Xbox 360 on a 19" 1440x900 LCD monitor.
20:14 <xcamel> hmmm.. snowing
20:14 <MTughan> Basically as good as the screenshot from SK.
20:14 <MTughan> SK: What, no antialiasing? :P
20:14 <PovAddict> &wx eze
20:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 79Â°F / 26Â°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ARST; Overcast. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 ° F. / 27 ° C.; Overcast. High:95 ° F. / 35 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:82 ° F. / 28 ° C.; Overcast. High:87 ° F. / 31 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.;
20:15 <PovAddict> cold llamas?
20:15 <xcamel> llamas are never cold.
20:15 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What, no antialiasing? :P
20:15 <PovAddict> they are, they don't feel it :P
20:16 <Soul_keeper> i can't remember, i've gotten a new video card since then :)
20:16 <MTughan> What one?
20:16 <Romulus> hmm... What one are you trying, MTughan
20:16 <MTughan> Grr...
20:16 <Soul_keeper> radeon 3870 now
20:16 * Tank_Master sends 3863 lampfishes after Romulus
20:16 <Soul_keeper> used to have a geforce 6800XT
20:16 <MTughan> Nice.
20:16 <MTughan> When did you get it?
20:17 <Soul_keeper> probably 8 months ago
20:18 <Soul_keeper> lol
20:18 <MTughan> Just asking because the 4800 series cards have been out for a while, and as I know, have much better performance than the 3000 series.
20:18 <Soul_keeper> right before they came out with the 4870
20:18 <MTughan> lol
20:18 <Tank_Master> ouch
20:18 <Soul_keeper> still plenty more than i need tho
20:18 <Soul_keeper> i don't regret it
20:18 <MTughan> I have a 3470... I don't know if it's driver issues or bad cooling or something else, but I keep having GPU crashes on my laptop... :(
20:19 <MTughan> When playing games that is. Not in normal use.
20:19 <Soul_keeper> the latest drivers i've found to be unstable
20:19 <MTughan> What version? Latest are 8.11.
20:19 <Soul_keeper> i tryed them and got lockups, reverted back and no problems
20:19 <Soul_keeper> lemme check
20:21 <Soul_keeper> OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release
20:22 <PovAddict> I think that's the OpenGL version supported...
20:22 <Soul_keeper> appears i got version 8.6
20:22 <Soul_keeper> ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run
20:22 <MTughan> That was probably released in June.
20:22 <Soul_keeper> ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run this version was unstable for me
20:23 <MTughan> That was August.
20:25 <Soul_keeper> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases ok ic, appears they've been busy
20:28 <Soul_keeper> the version i have is so stable i can play games for hours everyday, and not reboot or have a crash for months
20:28 <Soul_keeper> but still tempting to upgrade ...
20:29 <MTughan> Desktop or laptop?
20:29 <Soul_keeper> desktop
20:29 <MTughan> That could make a difference too. Because the laptop won't have as good cooling on the GPU.
20:29 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/screenshots/IMG_0248b.JPG
20:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah i just gotta make sure not to let the dust buildup :)
20:30 <MTughan> Ooh, Saitek keyboard...
20:30 <MTughan> And what, a Razer mouse? Can't tell what model...
20:31 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah i got the same keyboard as xcamel
20:31 <Soul_keeper> copperhead mouse
20:31 <MTughan> Nice. I guess you built the case yourself. :P
20:32 <Soul_keeper> part of it
20:32 <Soul_keeper> had to modify it to fit the components
20:32 <Soul_keeper> the box on the top above the fan i had to build
20:33 <MTughan> Heh, because of the Thermalright cooler.
20:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah
20:33 <MTughan> What model is that again? The XE-120?
20:33 <Soul_keeper> thermalright coolers are the best so it was worth it
20:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah something like that
20:34 <MTughan> I've never actually used a Thermalright cooler because I can't really get them. I've been happy with my Zalman 9500 though.
20:34 <Soul_keeper> i got one of those on a server, pretty nice
20:34 <Soul_keeper> real quiet
20:35 <MTughan> Looking at the 9700 for a new machine. Ups the 92mm fan to a 110mm.
20:35 <MTughan> Also adds another 200g to the total weight, but it's probably worth it. IIRC, it almost doubles the surface area.
20:36 <MTughan> Anyway, I see the TI-83+ on another picture. As if that's as cool as the computer, but anyway... :P
20:37 <Soul_keeper> lol
20:38 <granpa_paul> the core contact coolers from sunbeam and xigmatik are very effective
20:39 <granpa_paul> a notch or two above the Ultra 120 extreme, cheaper and come with a fan
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20:40 <granpa_paul> thermalright has issues with warped cpu mating surfaces also
20:41 <MTughan> What I really hate is Thermaltake. Why do they have to name the company almost exactly the same way as another one? Better still, their products are often quite inferior.
20:41 <granpa_paul> yep
20:42 <granpa_paul> the zalman 9700 is pretty effective with the larger fan and fins as noted
20:42 <MTughan> I haven't tried the 9700, but I've been pleased with my 9500. Keeps my P4 at full load under 65C.
20:42 <granpa_paul> i used one in a modded shoebox case with a q6600 @3600mhz
20:43 <MTughan> A modded shoebox case? Like a case made from a shoebox?
20:43 <granpa_paul> umm, those square mATX cases
20:43 <granpa_paul> i call them shoebox
20:43 <MTughan> Oh, those... Interesting name. :P
20:43 <granpa_paul> i forget what the common term is
20:44 <MTughan> Well, I'll bbl
20:44 <granpa_paul> hey i'm old, i get some slack :p
20:46 <granpa_paul> fan was cleaner too i bet
20:46 <granpa_paul> :=)
20:48 <granpa_paul> that's the htpc box i made up a while back with the 9700
20:50 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah they are shoe boxes :)
20:51 <granpa_paul> hatbox! that's the name!
20:51 <granpa_paul> i forgot...
21:23 <xcamel> ah.. switched to rain now..
21:24 <efc> &wx 31088
21:24 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Decreasing clouds. Showers likely in the evening. Lows in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.; Tuesday (1 more message)
21:24 <xcamel> -ish
21:31 <MTughan> Sorry Soul_keeper, I was gone for a bit.
21:32 <MTughan> Yep, that's a Zalman 9000 series cooler. I can't tell whether it's the 9500 or 9700.
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21:55 <xcamel> laterz..
21:56 <MTughan> Bye Jay.
22:17 * MTughan rolls his eyes
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