IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-11-25

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03:02 <efc> Hmm, wonder if dell will have their best prices on black friday...

03:03 <efc> CBS has a hot new late night anchor

03:06 <efc> $7 trillion of federal obligations... so far

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03:16 <Tank_Master> and to think we will end up paying for it

03:19 <efc> it was interesting to read.. in 1907, apparently J.P. Morgan had to bail out the U.S. Treasury!

03:19 <CoderForLife> bleck

03:20 <CoderForLife> brb  need early breakfast

03:25 <CoderForLife> emergency breakfast operations are now underway

03:27 <efc> Ok ok CFL here's your $1 billion breakfast. Don't ask for more before tommorrow dammit !

03:28 <CoderForLife> Feed me!

03:28 <efc> alright alright $750 million but THAT IS ALL until noon

03:28 <CoderForLife> I require $20B a day

03:29 <CoderForLife> I hear my great-grandchildren are rich - they'll pay for it

03:29 <efc> Ok, but you'll have to pay 5% interest and limit your executive pay which btw, we're going to tax the snot out of

03:30 <CoderForLife> that'll help recruit top talent to steer us out of this mess

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06:28 <hawmps> 'lo

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07:41 <PovAdct_w> I missed a lot of the IRC log from yesterday

07:45 <KathrynM> PovAdct_w, I reassigned that lanuchd ticket to Charlie.  It's Mac specific so I guess he should get it.

07:46 <PovAdct_w> yup

07:46 <KathrynM> And if he doesn't like it, he can reassign it to David.

07:47 <PovAdct_w> i posted my comment on that ticket at tooearly o'clock before going to w$%&

07:48 <KathrynM> lol

07:48 <KathrynM> I've been up since dark o'clock

07:48 <KathrynM> I'm exhausted and wired all at the same time.

07:48 <KathrynM> Bad combo.

08:03 <hawmps> ditto bingo

08:04 <hawmps> crawled off to the sack at my usual time, woke up at 2:00 am, and never fully went back to sleep.

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11:26 <jackygrahamez> hi

11:26 <jackygrahamez> all

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11:26 <jackygrahamez> thanks for the help on the server the other day

11:27 <PovAdct_w> o hai

11:27 <jackygrahamez> I think I acomplished my goal

11:27 <jackygrahamez> just backing it up now

11:28 <PovAdct_w> <jackygrahamez> has anyone here setup a bossa before?

11:28 <PovAdct_w> I think nobody anywhere has set one up, except DA himself while testiing

11:28 <PovAdct_w> <MTughan> IIRC, it was Stardust@Home that used it before.

11:28 <jackygrahamez> That's what he said, only the Space Science Lab at Berkeley

11:29 <PovAdct_w> Stardust finished its first searching phase before BOSSA existed

11:29 <MTughan> Oh.

11:29 <MTughan> It seemed similar.

11:29 <MTughan> Was BOSSA based off Stardust?

11:29 <PovAdct_w> yes, sort of

11:29 <PovAdct_w> based on the idea

11:29 <PovAdct_w> and Amazon Mechanical Turk

11:30 <PovAdct_w> (mturk website claimed they were the first ones to do such a thing, sigh)

11:30 <jackygrahamez> I'm helping my friend propose a project to translate old medical texts and I was able to make minor modifications of David's fossil hunter app for demonostration purposes

11:30 <PovAdct_w> fossil hunter app? that part of BOINC SVN repository is locked...

11:31 <jackygrahamez> its not really an app in the sense of BOINC

11:31 <jackygrahamez> its really just a bunch of scripts to create a bossa page

11:32 <jackygrahamez> all the source should be in the main trunk

11:32 <jackygrahamez> I had to go back and forth last night with David several times to clean up the code

11:32 <PovAdct_w>

11:33 <PovAdct_w> BOSSA so far is MeWare

11:33 <PovAdct_w> "The developer creates software. The developer uses it. Nobody else does."

11:33 <PovAdct_w> (or maybe "Shiteware: Nobody uses it.")

11:33 <wdsmia> asks PovAdct_w to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

11:35 <jackygrahamez> Yes, I supose I am a pioneer

11:41 <PovAdct_w> or masochist :P

11:42 <PovAdct_w> also, something else I saw on the log

11:42 <hawmps> that would be 'Shyteware"

11:42 <PovAdct_w> bossa has no daemons, it's all PHP scripts

11:42 <PovAdct_w> hawmps: and there are a few more, like ManagementWare *shudder*

11:43 <hawmps> muddleware

11:48 <MTughan> &math 10.5 / .78

11:48 <Romulus> MTughan: 13.4615384615

11:49 <MTughan> &math 1 - 13.5/20

11:49 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.325

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12:09 <quail> 'evening all

12:42 <jackygrahamez> Back from the gym

12:43 <jackygrahamez> Hopefully next time someone comes, it will be easier to deploy

12:44 <jackygrahamez> I guess David needs to find more projects to keep him occupied :-)

12:45 <jackygrahamez> It looks to me like BOSSA is at a very nascent stage of development and has not gained significant momentum

12:46 <jackygrahamez> Its hard to say what benefits are gained from a set of daemons, it would not be very hard to create some for the project, but only create them if you need them

12:47 <jackygrahamez> If you build the boinc project like normal, you could have the deamons and create the BOSSA interfaces as well...have your cake and...

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14:43 <jackygrahamez> Hi yoyo[RKN]

14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> ji

14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

14:44 <jackygrahamez> I got two questions for you

14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> which

14:45 <jackygrahamez> one regarding the petition and the other regarding your index page

14:45 <yoyo[RKN]> ask

14:46 <jackygrahamez> Ok the thing that is confusing me is why you need other languages translated? Do you need people outside the US?

14:46 <yoyo[RKN]> is [RKN]frost here?

14:46 <[RKN]frost> <-

14:46 <jackygrahamez> sorry outside DE

14:46 <jackygrahamez> do you need people outside EU

14:46 <[RKN]frost> in germany, there are two kinds of basic rights:

14:46 <[RKN]frost> citizen rights (only germans have them) and everyones rights..

14:46 <[RKN]frost> the right to sign a petition has everyone

14:47 <[RKN]frost> including foreigners

14:48 <jackygrahamez> So its ok for a US citizen to petition the German government?

14:48 <[RKN]frost> plus we want to inform the dc-community in other countries about what is going on here

14:48 <[RKN]frost> maybe, they want to try the same

14:48 <[RKN]frost> afaik yes

14:49 <[RKN]frost> ... and otherwise the possibility to choose a country during the registration process would be useless, i think

14:53 <jackygrahamez> ok the other question

14:53 <jackygrahamez> yoyo[RKN] I got this bossa setup on

14:53 <Romulus> Title: MotherShip@Home (at

14:53 <jackygrahamez> I set it up for my friend who is making a proposal

14:54 <yoyo[RKN]> but my account was removed :(

14:55 <jackygrahamez> My friend really likes your 3 column index, and I'm sorry about the account getting removed, I had to change servers, I'll see if they let me give you an invite code or recreate your account

14:55 <yoyo[RKN]> no problem

14:55 <hawmps> lol 'mothership'

14:55 <yoyo[RKN]> I know that it is a pre-pre-alpha where I just jumped in

14:57 <yoyo[RKN]> what is the question, jackygrahamez?

14:57 <jackygrahamez> could you give any advice on creating 3 columns or is that a secret

14:58 <yoyo[RKN]> it's long time ago

14:58 <yoyo[RKN]> Think I changed just index.php

14:58 <jackygrahamez> And you used html table tags?

14:59 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

14:59 <yoyo[RKN]> there was already a table with 2 columns and I inserted a 3rd one

15:03 <FreeLarry58> dang i guess i need to clean up the one ubantu machine but have forgotten all the commands

15:03 <hawmps> 'lo Larry

15:03 <yoyo[RKN]> just use fdisk, FreeLarry58

15:04 <FreeLarry58> lo jay

15:04 <FreeLarry58> ahh but have 2 hd's in it

15:05 <FreeLarry58> not sure how to select via putty

15:05 <FreeLarry58> selling to someone and they are going to install windows on it

15:06 * FreeLarry58 notices vista machine doing its normal continual crash on tuesday bit - must be update time again

15:10 <hawmps> /hdc or /hdd

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15:13 <FreeLarry58> dang 3 updates and defender definition update for vista

15:14 <FreeLarry58> don't think anything on the machine accept boinc now so will let him reformat when he installs windows

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15:48 <FreeLarry58> yup vista updates not installing correctly - causing thiis machine to contually crash -- and after a so nice stable period from previous updates

15:48 <PovAddict> heh

15:48 <PovAddict> I had a problem with my other computer...

15:48 <PovAddict> installed XP SP3

15:49 <PovAddict> had five bluescreens in a day

15:49 <PovAddict> then I had to do two or three attempts to uninstall SP3

15:49 <FreeLarry58> humm didn't have a problem with sp3 on these machines

15:49 <PovAddict> because it bluescreened before it finished uninstalling >.<

15:50 <FreeLarry58> yeah can understand that PovAddict - vista likes to bs here quite a lot to while in middle of doing things

15:50 <FreeLarry58> shoot even safe mode unstable now

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15:51 <FreeLarry58> oops forgot turned screen off

15:51 <PovAddict> lol

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15:52 <FreeLarry58> tca

15:56 <Tank_Master> gl

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16:01 <CoderForLife> reboot needed

16:02 <Tank_Master> hf

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17:12 <MTughan> Hehe... I have a total credit of 455,555. :P

17:14 <xcamel> play the lotto?

17:14 <xcamel> (AKA: Idiot Tax)

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17:21 <xcamel> must be dinner time..

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18:06 <xcamel> wb Don

18:13 <xcamel> &ping

18:13 <Romulus> pong

18:13 <xcamel> &wx 12074

18:13 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 33.2F / 0.7C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers this evening... then a slight chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy with a (1 more message)

18:13 <xcamel> &more

18:13 <Romulus> xcamel: chance of snow or rain showers. Highs in the upper 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. South winds around 5 mph.;

18:14 <xcamel> spooge.

18:16 <PovAddict> &wx eze

18:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 86°F / 30°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Overcast. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Overcast. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:93 F. / 34 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:77 F. / 25 (1 more message)

18:23 <KathrynM> toasty

18:23 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

18:23 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Clear. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 F. / 5 (1 more message)

18:23 <PovAddict> it's 9pm!

18:23 <PovAddict> 30C!

18:23 * PovAddict melts

18:23 * KathrynM throws a snowball at PovAddict

18:28 * CoderForLife tosses his cookies

18:28 <CoderForLife> hello xcmamel PovAddict KathrynM

18:28 <CoderForLife> er xcamel

18:30 <xcamel> under the weather?

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18:44 <PovAddict>

18:44 <Romulus> <> (at

19:06 <xcamel>

19:06 <Romulus> <> (at

19:09 <PovAddict> wow

19:10 <xcamel> 452-DEAD

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19:51 <efc> Moo

19:58 <xcamel> arf

20:08 <efc> I told CFL he couldn't have any more money until tommorrow and there he goes getting another $800 billion this afternoon

20:10 <efc> You'll only get several more warnings

20:12 <xcamel> repeat yikes..

20:13 <xcamel>

20:13 <Romulus> <> (at

20:29 <CoderForLife> I'm worth every penny, and more

20:30 <CoderForLife> thanks for caring, efc

20:34 <xcamel> I'll take my bailout now, and go back to Lapaz.

20:37 <CoderForLife> I need to pick the right mortgage next time

20:37 <CoderForLife> sorta like picking the right parents

20:40 <Soul_keeper> k

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21:13 <infinisoft> Whats up with the SAH site?

21:29 <xcamel> dunno... problems?

21:30 <xcamel> they forget to pay the power bill again?

21:38 <Soul_keeper> maybe somebody stole their copper wires again ...

21:39 <MTughan> Redirects to here...

21:39 <Soul_keeper> or since commodities have fallen, then new problem now is foreclosures ... maybe they ARM adjusted on um ..

21:39 <MTughan> That causes a FF error: "SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length."

21:40 <MTughan> BOINC site is up, but Trac is down.

21:43 <PovAddict> &wx EZE

21:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 81°F / 27°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Overcast. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Overcast. Low:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:93 F. / 34 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:77 F. / 25 (1 more message)

21:43 <PovAddict> it's almost 1am, for 's sake!

21:44 <PovAddict> bah pwned by the shell

21:44 <MTughan> ?

21:44 <PovAddict> it's almost 1am, for $DEITY's sake!

21:45 <MTughan> lol

21:45 <Soul_keeper> cases are a waste of money

21:45 <Soul_keeper>

21:45 <Romulus> <> (at

21:45 <MTughan> Computer cases?

21:45 <xcamel> [NNTN] "Oil Plummets; OPEC Leaders Off Themselves"

21:46 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Uh... Dusty enough for you?

21:46 <xcamel> MAOJC had a whole farm of "caseless" computers

21:46 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, join #linuxsociety some youngster wants to talk pc hardware with you, he has a lot of money to spend ...

21:47 <MTughan> Hold on, trying to look up a pic...

21:47 <Soul_keeper> been running that pc for nearly 3yrs without a case

21:47 <xcamel> wants to cash that Nigerian check somewhere, eh?

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21:47 <Soul_keeper> lol

21:47 <Soul_keeper> inheritance ...

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21:48 <Soul_keeper> but ups destroyed his inheritance built pc, so they reimbursed him, now he has to build a newer new pc

21:48 <MTughan> That's it:

21:48 <Romulus> Title: Crazy Image: Kylning (at

21:48 <Soul_keeper> yeah saw that

21:49 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What's his knowledge level like? Could we just talk randomness and he would take it as serious?

21:50 <xcamel> doesn't open..

21:50 <Soul_keeper> i dunno

21:56 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

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21:56 <CoderForLife> I'm off to bed - gn folks

21:56 * CoderForLife sees he is already away

21:56 <MTughan> Night CFL.

21:57 <CoderForLife> cya Michael

21:58 <xcamel> laterz also..

22:04 <Tank_Master> gn CFL

22:10 <MTughan> :O Fedora 11 is looking at bundling MinGW for Windows cross-compilation, and they already have Wine for running/testing programs.

22:16 <Soul_keeper> "Game Over for SCO: Company Ordered to Pay Novell More than $3.4M"

22:16 <MTughan> Happened last week I thought. Or was there not a verdict at that point?

22:20 <MTughan> My roommate says there's a "snow penis" outside a building here... o_O

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22:40 <MTughan> 'lo Nickuwo

22:40 <Nickuwo> hey MT, whats up?

22:41 <MTughan> The sky? What else? :P

22:41 <Nickuwo> good call :)

22:41 <Nickuwo> roof for me!

22:41 <Tank_Master> Nickuwo!

22:41 <Tank_Master> waz up?

22:42 <MTughan> I already answered that TM. :P

22:42 <Tank_Master> yeah, but thats for you

22:42 <Nickuwo> Hey Tank. Not too much - just cuttin up some recordings for a band im in

22:42 <Nickuwo> oh yea, and the sky

22:42 <Tank_Master> maybe Nickuwo's sky isnt up

22:42 <Tank_Master> what kind of music?

22:43 <MTughan> If it isn't, he ain't an Earthling.

22:43 <Tank_Master> or he's upside down

22:43 <Nickuwo> it's kinda funk/post-rock/ambient ish :)

22:44 <Nickuwo> we have identity issues

22:45 <Tank_Master> lol

22:45 <Tank_Master> nice

22:47 <MTughan> So how's the Ramsey reorganization coming along?

22:47 <Tank_Master> and hows my and MTughan's 1 million credits coming?

22:47 <MTughan> Hmm, I wonder...

22:48 <MTughan> End of May for my first million at current rates.

22:48 <MTughan> :o I'd actually pass PovAddict by that point...

22:48 <Tank_Master> congratz

22:48 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:48 <Nickuwo> It has been on the backburner, but a professor of mine who originally helped me has expressed a very strong interest in helping me code so that's a good sign

22:48 <MTughan> Nice.

22:49 <MTughan> Tank_Master: I'm currently about 50,000 behind him. He just hit 500K a couple days ago, I should hit it about mid-December.

22:49 <Nickuwo> wow 1 mil credits eh?

22:49 <MTughan> ABC helps. :D

22:49 <Tank_Master> I should hit 10m by next april

22:49 <MTughan> Anyway, we're going to shoot up some terrorists... Xbox playing. bbl

22:49 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:49 <Tank_Master> hf

22:50 <Nickuwo> later

23:15 <FreeLarry58> humm interesting - f8 machine crashed

23:16 <Tank_Master> c-ya Nickuwo

23:16 <Nickuwo> bye Tank

23:16 <Nickuwo> taker easy

23:16 <Tank_Master> u2

23:16 <Nickuwo> thx!

23:16 <Soul_keeper>   200 bucks and you can give a laptop to a poor child

23:16 <Romulus> <> (at

23:19 <granpa_paul> there's a billboard on the freeway with those laptops

23:19 <Tank_Master> shouldnt it be over the freeway?

23:20 <granpa_paul> maybe on the side of the freeway

23:20 <Tank_Master> that works to

23:20 <granpa_paul> one of those fancy electronic ones

23:20 <Tank_Master> with streaming porn vid

23:21 <Tank_Master> live

23:21 <granpa_paul> well that's kinda distracting

23:21 <Tank_Master> only slightly

23:21 <granpa_paul> fwip fwip fwip

23:22 <granpa_paul> oops

23:22 <Tank_Master> :P

23:26 <Soul_keeper> 7.5" diagonal TFT LCD 1200900    that's a better screen than the Eee

23:26 <Soul_keeper> i want one ...

23:26 <Tank_Master> thats a good dpi

23:27 <Soul_keeper> yeah and that amd geode cpu shouldn't take hardly any juice

23:27 <Soul_keeper> 1GB flash drive tho, that's where they save the money

23:28 <Tank_Master> sheesh, 8 or 16 GB is cheep these days

23:28 <Tank_Master> 16 would be enough for vista (barly)

23:29 <Soul_keeper> could probably replace it

23:29 <Soul_keeper> comes with fedora preinstalled

23:32 <Tank_Master> EWWW

23:47 <granpa_paul> striking colors

23:47 <granpa_paul> heh

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