00:00 <efc> I bought two bags!
00:02 <MTughan> We have about a third of a 1.36kg bag left.
00:02 <MTughan> &math convert 1.36 kg to lb
00:02 <Romulus> MTughan: 2.99828676571
00:02 * wdsmia hasnt had a marshmellow in the last 10 years
00:04 <Tidus> MTughan: did you get my email?
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00:13 <Soul_keeper> bush loves you !
00:15 <efc> He's not going to leave O'bama any money by Jan 20 hehe
00:15 <Soul_keeper> obama don't care
00:16 <Soul_keeper> he's already got plans to take out more money than the war cost over the last 5yrs
00:16 <Soul_keeper> debt ...
00:16 <Soul_keeper> gonna pump it into subsidies and government programs
00:16 <Soul_keeper> went from the frying pan into the fire it seems
00:16 <Soul_keeper> government spending gone awry
00:17 <efc> I guess i'd rather see it go to civil projects than to banks that just hoard it
00:17 <efc> but can't afford either
00:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah they need to listen to ron paul
00:17 <efc> I need to dump my dollars
00:17 <efc> Invest in i7s?
00:18 <Soul_keeper> need to right now ?
00:18 <Soul_keeper> can't wait till spring ?
00:18 <efc> Depends, will the dollar exist in spring? Probably.
00:18 <Soul_keeper> i'm not a fan of the i7
00:19 <Soul_keeper> HT and higher latencies kinda make it less appealing
00:19 <efc> expensive platform
00:19 <Soul_keeper> dunno about boinc points per dollar tho, i've not been keeping up on the benchmarks
00:20 <efc> But 6 memory slots is a plus, have not seen that in a while
00:20 <Soul_keeper> daneb will be interesting
00:20 <efc> Can't see the HT as much of a downside.. can turn it off
00:20 <Soul_keeper> then you'd lose 40% performance or whatever
00:21 <efc> Then turn it on? Whats the problem?
00:21 <Soul_keeper> it's just HT, i don't agree with the whole idea
00:21 <Soul_keeper> not that it's not going to give them an upper hand, just i don't think it's a good direction
00:22 <efc> I thought it was stupid, but it seems to be helping my s@h output a bunch
00:22 <efc> sun had something similar for years i think.. hardware contexts
00:22 <Soul_keeper> you got an i7 ?
00:22 <efc> no, p4
00:22 <Soul_keeper> ahh
00:23 <efc> i have two p4's 2.8 ghz, one with HT, and one w/o
00:23 <Soul_keeper> true cores kill HT anyday, i don't see AMD releasing an 8 core anytime soon tho
00:23 <Soul_keeper> you can have my 2.8 P4 ...
00:23 <efc> w/o has 1.378 gflops atm, with HT has 1.2 x 2 gflops
00:24 <Soul_keeper> i cracked the NB on the motherboard
00:24 <Soul_keeper> ha
00:27 <efc> Whats NB?
00:27 <Soul_keeper> north bridge
00:27 <Soul_keeper> might have burnt it up, havn't had the care to investigate more
00:28 <efc> Oh, the bad kind of cracked
00:28 <Soul_keeper> but it stopped working right after reseating the NB heatsink
00:28 <Soul_keeper> cpu/mem should still be good tho
00:28 <Soul_keeper> it wasn't worth the energy to run it anyways
00:29 <efc> My poor 386 is toast :( Hacks me off.
00:30 <Soul_keeper> i've broke so much hardware over the years, hard to even think about it ...
00:30 <Soul_keeper> i like breaking things i guess
00:31 <efc> this one.. the battery leaked acid a little bit. But it ate traces all over the place
00:31 <Soul_keeper> nice one
00:33 <efc> I thought about fixing it but not realistic
00:33 <efc> I think it would have lasted forever. TTL chips on the board, un-killable.
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00:55 <Soul_keeper> i need a pin diagram for a 30 pin slot connector for a laptop lcd
00:56 <Tidus> what brand laptop?
00:56 <Soul_keeper> lemme check
00:59 <Soul_keeper> sager 5600n
01:00 <Soul_keeper> i want to convert the 30 pin proprietary connector to a 15pin vga or dvi connector so i can use it as a second screen for my desktop
01:00 <Soul_keeper> just took the screen appart examining it now
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01:02 <Tidus> hm... wouldn't know where to find the pinout
01:02 <Tidus> might try finding the technical manual for the machine
01:11 <Soul_keeper> finding nothing, might have to GUESS ...
01:12 <Soul_keeper> i've never been able to find diagrams or blue sheets for this thing, probably why it's been in peices for several years
01:15 <Tidus> if it's 30 pin, it's probably some mangled form of dvi
01:15 <Tidus> 26 pins plus power ?
01:15 <Tidus> i think my HP lcd has the same stinkin connector
01:25 <MTughan> Tidus: Yes, I did. I don't think I'm interested anymore then.
01:27 <Soul_keeper> maybe
01:31 <Soul_keeper> i got it down to the ICs and pcb now, got any number i need, i'll figure it out if i don't give up
01:36 <Soul_keeper> "Engineering Specification Type 15.0 UXGA Color TFT/LCD Module ..." i'm onto them now
01:43 <Soul_keeper> got exactely what i need
01:44 <Soul_keeper> http://www.gblcd.com/datacenter/idtech/ITUX97C.pdf contains the interface signal connector pin out, just gotta match it up with the standard DVI/vga pin order
01:46 <Soul_keeper> can't believe i found that specs sheet :)
01:46 <Soul_keeper> was 32 pins, my eyes are shotty
01:48 <CoderForLife> congrats Soul_keeper
01:48 <CoderForLife> I am continually amazed what you can find online
01:52 <Soul_keeper> will take me some time to figure out moer specifics tho, nothing wiki doesn't seem to have for the acronyms :)
01:55 <Soul_keeper> 18 instances of these ReIN0-/+ ReIN1-/+ ReIN2-/+ ReCLKIN-/+ RoCLKIN-/+ seem to match up with the 18 instances of DVI-I TMDS Data1-/+ Data2-/+ format
02:03 <Soul_keeper> appears to be a matter of LVDS vs. TMDS gotta verify that they are compatible and not just "similar"
02:26 <Soul_keeper> it won't be a simple conversion
02:26 <Soul_keeper> one is a 3.3v system the other a 5v system apparently ...
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06:42 <CoderForLife> Happy Thanksgiving Day\
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06:45 <CoderForLife> Happy Thanksgiving Day
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06:52 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
07:05 <CoderForLife> b
07:11 <CoderForLife> in a world of LEDs, why should traffic lights remain round? http://dvice.com/archives/2008/11/square_traffic.php?p=0&cat=undefined#
07:17 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll offer that as the Question of the Day =)
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07:35 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM
07:35 <CoderForLife> Happy Thanksgiving Day
07:41 <KathrynM> Happy Thanksgiving to you too
07:41 <CoderForLife> thanks!
07:41 <KathrynM> Turkey in the oven?
07:42 <CoderForLife> It's a small one - I think it's just *near* the oven, ATM
07:42 <KathrynM> :)
07:42 <KathrynM> My parents' idea of a small turkey was 20 pounds
07:43 <KathrynM> They would seriously dig through the bin at the store to find the biggest one possible.
07:43 <CoderForLife> the goal?
07:43 <KathrynM> who knows.
07:43 <KathrynM> we ate turkey forever and a day
07:43 <CoderForLife> "to find the biggest one possible"?
07:44 <KathrynM> that too
07:46 <CoderForLife> LOL
07:47 <CoderForLife> http://dvice.com/archives/2008/08/dvice_tv_watch.php
07:47 <CoderForLife> I'm shopping, and ran across that =)
07:56 <KathrynM> *sigh*
07:56 <KathrynM> I'm assuming there was supposed to be sound with that.
07:56 <KathrynM> my cleaning lady came today. she knocked the plug for my laptop out of the power converter. no power = shutdown.
07:56 <KathrynM> now no sound :/
07:56 <KathrynM> bugger
08:02 <KathrynM> gonna reboot and see if that fixes it.
08:02 <KathrynM> I know I know. Windows troubleshooting, but it's late and I'm tired.
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08:07 <KathrynM> *sigh*
08:07 <KathrynM> no luck
08:07 <KathrynM> I'll worry about it this weekend.
08:14 <xcamel> ',ornin
08:15 <xcamel> 'Happy Turkey'
08:20 <xcamel> &wx 12074
08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 31.7°F / -0.2°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs around 40. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - A chance of snow showers in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain (1 more message)
08:20 <xcamel> &more
08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: showers. Highs in the lower 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.;
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08:57 <xcamel> goofy connection?
08:58 <PovAdct_w2> didn't even notice...
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09:16 <xcamel> really funny...
09:16 <Romulus> Title: North Star Writers Group - Syndicated Commentary: Opinion, Humor and Features (at www.northstarwriters.com)
09:21 <xcamel> must be the weather... my brain feels like it imploded.
09:27 <PovAdct_w> &wx eze
09:27 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: Temperature: 86Â°F / 30Â°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:80 ° F. / 27 ° C.; Chance of Rain. (1 more message)
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09:33 <CoderForLife> back
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09:33 <xcamel> wb
09:33 <CoderForLife> morning xcamel PovAdct_w
09:33 <CoderForLife> Happy Thanksgiving Day
09:34 <xcamel> soon as my brain returns to normal size
09:35 <CoderForLife> you have encephalus-swellus?
09:35 <xcamel> angry sinuses
09:36 <CoderForLife> sinusus-snafu-us
09:36 <xcamel> close enough
09:37 <CoderForLife> sorry about that - Happt TD none the less
09:37 <CoderForLife> er Happy
09:37 <xcamel> I've noticed the cable connection keeps my firewall very, very busy,
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09:38 <xcamel> and I finally got a non-fubar digital cable box for hd programming.
09:38 <CoderForLife> You're probably on a shared segment, rather than switched
09:39 <xcamel> rrbc is a dedicated segment - only one other low bandwidth user on my link, iirc.
09:39 <CoderForLife> you'll see traffic from others on your segment, in addition to broadcast traffic (and I don't mean TV)
09:39 <PovAdct_w> see traffic from others on the segment? isn't that bad for... privacy?
09:40 <CoderForLife> ah, that's right, business connection - sorry
09:40 <CoderForLife> that's why they make encryption
09:40 <CoderForLife> see the traffic, not the contents
09:41 <PovAdct_w> ah...
09:41 <CoderForLife> I'm not sure what I can learn from seeing you get an IP packet
09:42 <CoderForLife> I can learn source and destination
09:42 <CoderForLife> protocol
09:43 <CoderForLife> well - back to cleaning
09:43 <CoderForLife> again Happy TD - bbl
09:43 <FreeLarry58> scrub that turkey
09:44 <xcamel> 'lo Larry
09:44 <FreeLarry58> lo jay
09:44 <xcamel> Happy Turkey
09:45 <FreeLarry58> looks and sees ham but no bird
09:46 <PovAdct_w> I don't think the turkey is happy :P
09:47 <xcamel> your ham flipped you the bird?
09:50 <FreeLarry58> something like that
09:50 <FreeLarry58> gathring at sons house today
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09:52 <xcamel> My toms have been staring at the house all morning...
09:52 <FreeLarry58> dropping head feathers?
09:52 <xcamel> I think they're hungry..
09:53 <FreeLarry58> ooohhh canables
10:06 <PovAdct_w> o_O?
10:06 <Romulus> It has been said that o_O is ~450MB total, PovAdct_w
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12:01 <xcamel> back again
12:03 <MTughan> Some really weird chat in here while I'm in class?
12:05 <xcamel> not really
12:05 <MTughan> I wasn't really asking, that was a statement more.
12:05 <xcamel> we're mostly all on holiday...
12:05 <MTughan> 'lo Jay BTW
12:05 <MTughan> I know.
12:07 <MTughan> &explosm rofl
12:10 <quail> 'evening all
12:10 <MTughan> 'lo quail
12:10 <quail> how are we all?
12:11 <MTughan> I start exams next week.
12:11 <quail> gl ;-)
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12:16 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo[RKN]
12:17 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
12:17 <yoyo[RKN]> think i need some help from a boinc server guru
12:17 <yoyo[RKN]> have a spammer on board
12:18 <yoyo[RKN]> what are the ways a boinc account can be created? webinterface, boinc, bam, are there more?
12:19 <MTughan> Not that I know of.
12:29 <yoyo[RKN]> he came from there 184.108.40.206
12:29 <MTughan> In Denmark.
12:33 <yoyo[RKN]> what das the "ru" at the end mean
12:33 <yoyo[RKN]> "Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; ru)"
12:33 <yoyo[RKN]> a russian version
12:33 <MTughan> Probably.
12:34 <MTughan> Yep, that's the language.
12:38 <yoyo[RKN]> this seems to be the sequence
12:38 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 1268758 (at pastebin.ca)
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12:39 <MTughan> Uses Opera to create and save profile, then views it in IE7?
12:40 <yoyo[RKN]> but my create_account_form.php does not work, it just makes sleep(120);exit(1);
12:41 <MTughan> You just disabled it, or it was disabled before?
12:41 <yoyo[RKN]> disabled since weeks
12:42 <yoyo[RKN]> as there was a spammer creating 10.000 accounts
12:43 <yoyo[RKN]> I see, create_account_form is only the formular which afterwards calls create_account action
12:43 <MTughan> I suppose if he knew the right arguments, he could force a POST to it.
12:43 <MTughan> Did you block GET or just POST?
12:43 <MTughan> That was badly worded... Other way around.
12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> <form action=create_account_action.php method=post>
12:44 <MTughan> BTW, if you see any requests coming to those pages from 220.127.116.11, that's me.
12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> now?
12:44 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm probing around a bit.
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12:45 <MTughan> 'lo PovAddict
12:45 <MTughan> PovAdct_w*
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12:45 <PovAdct_w> &urlquote :hi
12:45 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: %3Ahi
12:45 <PovAdct_w> er
12:45 <PovAdct_w> hi
12:45 <MTughan> lol
12:45 <PovAdct_w> and separately
12:45 <yoyo[RKN]> I do not look in it, I just extracted the stuff from 27. to an extra file
12:45 <PovAdct_w> &urlquote :
12:45 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: %3A
12:45 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: All right.
12:45 <MTughan> yoyo's getting spammed from the web form, which he says he disabled.
12:46 <PovAdct_w> what web form?
12:46 <MTughan> create_account_form.php
12:46 <yoyo[RKN]> create_account_form.php
12:46 <PovAdct_w> disabling the form doesn't help if you can still access create_account_action.php (which is the URL the form sends data to)
12:46 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 1268758 (at pastebin.ca)
12:46 <PovAdct_w> they could be POSTing manually to the _action.php page
12:47 <yoyo[RKN]> is the action page also used by Boincmanager and BAM?
12:47 <PovAdct_w> uh o_O
12:47 <PovAdct_w> no, the manager uses create_account.php
12:48 <MTughan> Yep, GET to that page doesn't work...
12:48 <MTughan> GET to create_account_action.php with args.
12:48 <yoyo[RKN]> I think he uses Opera which provides more support to simulate a post request
12:49 <PovAdct_w> or a script that can do whatever and give a fake user agent and/or referer
12:49 <yoyo[RKN]> he is just playing, only 5 accounts are created per day
12:49 <PovAdct_w> hmm then it's probably manual
12:49 <PovAdct_w> what did you do to the form?
12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> sleep(120);exit(1);
12:50 <MTughan> "but my create_account_form.php does not work, it just makes sleep(120);exit(1);"
12:50 <MTughan> That.
12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> some weeks ago a spammer created 10.000 accounts
12:51 <yoyo[RKN]> adHoc I removed the php script
12:51 <yoyo[RKN]> but than faulty request were hammering my server
12:51 <yoyo[RKN]> so I inserted the sleep
12:51 <MTughan> I've gotta go to class... I'll check in later.
12:52 <CoderForLife> hf
12:59 <yoyo[RKN]> so I disabled the action php also
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13:18 <MTughan> Gah!! Class cancelled, announced over email! Which has been down since the weekend!
13:19 <KathrynM> heh. Sounds like something my uni would have done.
13:19 <KathrynM> ah yes, the good old days....
13:19 <KathrynM> dial up.
13:19 <KathrynM> text only email
13:19 <KathrynM> dummy terminals to read email
13:19 <MTughan> This is text-only. Problem is they updated the software, creating a new subdomain for it. And forgot to get new security certs.
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13:21 <KathrynM> down a full week and they haven't fixed it yet?
13:21 <MTughan> Anyway, so the security certs were being returned on the secure connection of the new domain, but they were only signed for the old domain.
13:22 <MTughan> Oh, they have the web interface up. But SSL IMAP and POP have been down for a week now.
13:22 <MTughan> And the web interface sucks.
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13:22 <KathrynM> darn mosquitoes!
13:23 <KathrynM> die already
13:23 <MTughan> lol...
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13:23 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
13:23 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM KST; Rain. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Clear. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° C.; Overcast. High:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Clear. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.;
13:23 <MTughan> Yeow...
13:24 <MTughan> 6C and the mosquitos are biting...
13:24 <KathrynM> yup
13:24 <KathrynM> and I'm itching
13:24 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx berlin, germany
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13:25 <yoyo[RKN]> somebody interested in a cuda client
13:25 <MTughan> I will be after I get my new computer... Should be about a month and a half.
13:25 <MTughan> The only ones I know with CUDA clients right now are Tank_Master and zombie67 (I think).
13:26 <yoyo[RKN]> dnet has a prerelease cuda client, but only for RC5
13:26 <MTughan> I believe KathrynM's been running 6.3.x clients (or 6.4.x now), but no CUDA support. Right?
13:26 <KathrynM> nope. older laptops forme
13:26 <KathrynM> for me
13:35 <MTughan> KathrynM: I don't know, you still have a higher RAC than I do.
13:37 <MTughan> Although it looks like my new laptop does take over the 2GHz C2D you have.
13:41 <KathrynM> got one comp at work crunching
13:41 <KathrynM> a dual core amd
13:41 <KathrynM> And ABC pays well on 64 bit
13:41 <MTughan> Doesn't seem to be doing much work though.
13:41 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm running ABC on that one.
13:42 <KathrynM> only on during work hours
13:42 <MTughan> Hmm... I have 13,000 credits I can't account for by adding up the credit totals from my various "computers".
13:43 <MTughan> According to BOINCStats, you have three active computers: a T7250 @ 2GHz running Linux, a T2300 @ 1.66GHz running Linux, and the AMD 64 X2 4200+ running XP.
13:44 <KathrynM> yup
13:44 <MTughan> I only have two computers running: a T9400 @ 2.53GHz running Linux, and a 1500 @ 2GHz running OS X.
13:44 <MTughan> I have no idea what 1500 means... I know it's a Core Duo, Yonah core.
13:45 <KathrynM> simial to my T2300
13:45 <KathrynM> it's also a yonah core
13:45 <MTughan> All right, cool. I can't really give you accurate statistics on that one though...
13:46 <MTughan> Recently had an ID split, probably from attaching to BAM. Credit/day is 17,000, credit/week is 67,000. xD
13:46 <KathrynM> nice
13:46 <MTughan> Looks like it got about 1000 credits yesterday though. Crunching Einstein and Milkway.
13:46 <MTughan> Milkyway*
13:48 * KathrynM heads back to bed to toss and turn
13:48 <MTughan> Heh. Night.
13:49 <wdsmia> &wx 50265
13:49 <MTughan> Don't let the bed bugs bite. Or the mosquitos. :P
13:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 42.1°F / 5.6°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 32.08in / 1086.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8.7mph / 14.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 40s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Friday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 40s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;
13:59 <xcamel_> damn that was good eats
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14:06 <quail> I hate bind9
14:08 <quail> 'morning all
14:09 * quail thinks it time for another coffee and while making think how I stuffed up bind
14:13 <MTughan> brb
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14:17 <quail> wb MTughan
14:17 <MTughan> IRC client's memory leak was getting out of control. So I flushed it out.
14:20 <xcamel> 'lo Q
14:21 <MTughan> All right, more classes... Should be back in 2.5 hours, at latest.
14:21 <xcamel> there - final optical connect to the dvd player - all is right with the world.
14:22 <xcamel> now the daughter unit is happy
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14:27 <efc> Gobble
14:29 <xcamel> belch
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14:35 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a description how boinc in the standard debian package is working?
14:44 <xcamel> not that I have seen anywhere..
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14:56 <quail> ay xcamel :-)
14:57 * quail got bind to play nice :-)
14:57 <quail> and it working in conjunction with dhcp server :-)
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15:26 <PovAddict> paraphrasing Murphy; if something can get worse, it will...
15:26 <PovAddict> &wx eze
15:26 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 93Â°F / 34Â°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:80 ° F. / 27 ° C.; Chance of (1 more message)
15:27 <PovAddict> TV says feels like 40.1C
15:29 * CoderForLife peeks in
15:30 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant
15:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 5 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: * TheGasGiant sneaks in
15:30 <CoderForLife> about time for Paul to show up again
15:34 <yoyo[RKN]> have a boinc user with an problem in ICQ
15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> boinc 6.2.x, debian
15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> boinc runs, boinc_cmd gets a connection with boinc and dislays --get_state output
15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> but boincmanager does not get a connection
15:39 <quail> CoderForLife: 'morning mate, how are you?
15:39 <CoderForLife> fine quail - Happy Thanksgiving Day
15:42 <quail> CoderForLife: ditto to you :-)
15:43 * quail thinks got bind9 and dhcp3-server finally working nicely together :-)
15:43 <CoderForLife> congrats
15:43 <CoderForLife> bbiab
15:45 <quail> k
16:06 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: boinccmd works and manager doesn't? now that's weird
16:07 <yoyo[RKN]> jup
16:07 <yoyo[RKN]> but this is this mysterious debian package
16:07 <PovAddict> heck at least it *works*
16:08 <PovAddict> boinc debian packages on x86_64 machines seem to have a platform name of ""
16:08 <PovAddict> getting work from no projects
16:09 <PovAddict> my free Ubuntu CD arrived :P
16:10 <PovAddict> I ordered it long ago; it took longer than usual because 8.10 had just come out
16:10 <PovAddict> so it's the time they take to start making CDs with the new data, cover, etc. plus them getting a peak of orders
16:12 * PovAddict turns BOINC off
16:13 <PovAddict> hot weather, low voltage, TV said historical record of power consumption today (country-wide)
16:14 <xcamel> re back again
16:14 <xcamel> got some fence fixin done
16:14 <PovAddict> traffic lights are off in some areas, and this is rush hour (everyone getting back from w$%&)
16:14 <PovAddict> just great
16:16 <xcamel> life in the 3rd world..
16:16 <PovAddict> govt is making sure we don't get off that rank
16:17 <CoderForLife> it's a global race to the bottom - you're winning, PovAddict
16:18 <PovAddict> I wouldn't say we're winning in a race to the *bottom*
16:18 <PovAddict> but yeah we're far from the top :P
16:18 <CoderForLife> but Iran has a plan to make it to the Stone Age in one step
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16:34 <xcamel> 'lo Don
16:36 <CoderForLife> hey folks
16:37 <CoderForLife> bbl
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17:10 <xcamel> yummy coffee
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17:12 <CoderForLife> back for a millibit
17:13 <MTughan> What's a millibit? 0.5? :P
17:13 <CoderForLife> fractional bit - more than a microbit
17:33 <xcamel> millifribbit
17:33 <MTughan> Awesome... Secure connections on the email are back up.
17:33 <CoderForLife> that's slightly longer
17:33 <xcamel> sound made by a nanofrog
17:33 <MTughan> How does a picobit compare?
17:33 <CoderForLife> fribbits are green
17:33 <CoderForLife> bits are blue
17:34 <MTughan> KathrynM's being attacked by mosquitoes.
17:34 <xcamel> boy is my 'escape artist' llama pissed
17:34 <CoderForLife> that's a Kathrynbit
17:34 <MTughan> You fooled his escape plan?
17:34 <xcamel> foiled even
17:34 <MTughan> lol
17:34 <xcamel> serious fence tightening
17:35 <CoderForLife> the llama intelligence test
17:35 <xcamel> and the electric fencer is back on
17:35 * CoderForLife remembers "Flowers for Algernon"
17:35 <xcamel> seems the 'magic apple tree' would pull him right through the fence
17:36 <xcamel> now the shock will kick him right back
17:36 <xcamel> loved that book - but it was oooh soooo long ago
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17:37 <CoderForLife> movie, too
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17:38 <CoderForLife> "Charly"
17:38 <xcamel> published the year I was born, and I read it when I was 10, I think
17:38 <Romulus> Title: Charly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:39 <CoderForLife> I cried when I read it and saw it
17:39 <KathrynM> MTughan, what can I say. I'm just so sweet, the mosquitoes can't resist me.
17:39 <MTughan> Hmm...
17:39 <MTughan> :P
17:39 <efc> Moo
17:39 <CoderForLife> moo
17:39 <MTughan> 'lo e
17:39 <CoderForLife> hey KathrynM
17:39 * KathrynM yawns
17:40 <KathrynM> how was turkey?
17:40 <MTughan> 20 to 8 there... Early enough for you?
17:40 <CoderForLife> yummy
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17:40 <CoderForLife> need some leftovers?
17:40 <xcamel> K - don't eat bananas
17:40 <KathrynM> I rarely eat them, only when I start getting sponaneous leg cramps at night
17:40 <KathrynM> please send a pumpkin pie or 20 over
17:41 <MTughan> Hungry kids?
17:41 <KathrynM> hungry teachers
17:41 <xcamel> ...or anything with a high potassium level
17:42 <CoderForLife> cya later folks - going downstairs to give the couch a good sitting
17:43 <efc> Potassium can cause cramps? Hmmm. I thought it was lack of it that was a problem.
17:43 <MTughan> Night CFL.
17:43 <xcamel> If I did that I'd be asleep in about 10 flat
17:43 <CoderForLife> laterz
17:43 <MTughan> Or later... Whatever works.
17:43 <PovAddict> efc: uh yes
17:43 <PovAddict> efc: Kathryn said she eats bananas when she has cramps...
17:43 <PovAddict> to stop them... probably
17:43 <efc> Maybe I should knock off the bananas then
17:44 <PovAddict> so yeah lack of it seems like the problem
17:44 <KathrynM> exactly PovAddict
17:44 <KathrynM> I only get them when the cramps start
17:44 <KathrynM> errr buy them
17:44 <PovAddict> to make them stop :)
17:44 <KathrynM> yeah
17:45 * PovAddict would like to tell SETI admins to block IPs from Argentina
17:45 <MTughan> Why?
17:45 <KathrynM> ?????
17:45 <PovAddict> so computers over the country run out of work, stop crunching, and we avoid powercuts...
17:45 <PovAddict> historical power consumption record today
17:46 <MTughan> That would be the A/C.
17:46 <PovAddict> well we can't exactly stop ACs :)
17:47 <PovAddict> and ET-searching computers cause heat, so in theory ACs would run less if computers heat less
17:47 <PovAddict> the real long term solution would be to *generate more damned electricity*
17:47 <MTughan> We have basically the opposite here... 0C and snow.
17:47 <MTughan> &wx YOW
17:48 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM EST; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries this evening. Periods of snow beginning late this evening. Temperature steady near -1C(30F).; Friday - Periods of snow. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). High 2C(36F). Friday night (1 more message)
17:48 <PovAddict> govt keeps telling people use less electricity, as if that was *possible*
17:48 <PovAddict> population has grown
17:48 <PovAddict> the number of electricity-eating devices people have has grown
17:48 <efc> Do you have good wind resources there?
17:48 <PovAddict> yet nobody has done any significant investment in generating electricity
17:49 <PovAddict> efc: hell of a lot of wind in the east, hell of a lot of sun in the north, nobody interested in putting money into using that energy though
17:49 <MTughan> It would take that energy off the earth and put it into electricity. Where it gets converted back to heat, so you're basically doing nothing. :P
17:50 <efc> I'm not really a green but if its there, and makes economic sense...
17:50 <KathrynM> speaking of wind... damn it's windy here
17:50 <PovAddict> you know, better to build a few more fuel-eating thermoelectric plants
17:50 <PovAddict> because fuel comes from oil
17:51 <PovAddict> and oil = good (for political and economic reasons for the people in power)
17:51 <efc> Not sure what the payback is on the modern wind plants..\
17:51 <efc> Better than solar though I think
17:51 <PovAddict> Spain is *full* of them
17:51 <MTughan> Las Vegas is experimenting with solar farms.
17:52 <PovAddict> oh if only heat could be converted to electricity...
17:52 <MTughan> It can. Just needs to be contained to heat water to steam to turn a turbine. That's the hard part. :P
17:52 <PovAddict> trains would be perpetual motion machines... heat from the sweating passengers used to move it
17:53 <MTughan> That is how coal power plants actually work though.
17:53 <xcamel> Spain just hit some record of power supply from solar/wind
17:54 <PovAddict> we're in a stupid timezone because the delusional president thinks DST actually helps
17:54 <xcamel> payback on wind/solar is very poor still
17:55 <PovAddict> yet we still have soccer matches at night... I don't even want to think how much electricity is used by the lighting
17:56 <PovAddict> and that's apparently because having it at night makes economical sense for the broadcasters who put the match on TV
18:10 <xcamel> when they have the most eyeballs
18:25 * xcamel yawns again
18:29 <xcamel> turkey coma - ore something close
18:29 <xcamel> ore?
18:29 <xcamel> sheesh
18:35 <MTughan> xcamel: Now you've gone and made me tired... And I haven't even had any turkey!
18:40 <PovAddict> my intertubes are slow...
18:54 * efc made some code massively faster, that always feels good
18:54 <PovAddict> \o/
18:55 <efc> volumetric search, cut by factor of 1000, and its close enough to right to not matter :)
18:56 <efc> about 4x faster in practice
18:57 <PovAddict> go attack MilkyWay code
19:08 <xcamel> efcoder now?
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19:33 <_Danilo_> hi all
19:33 <MTughan> 'lo
19:40 <xcamel> 'lo Dan
20:07 <Romulus> Title: GPU Technology for Accelerated Computing (at ati.amd.com)
20:08 <MTughan> _Danilo_: BOINC will support ATI cards later at current rates, and Artificial Intelligence has announced that they're making a GPU app for ATI cards.
20:09 <_Danilo_> yes, i no
20:10 <MTughan> Hmm... Do you know what Radeon series support that?
20:10 <_Danilo_> Radeon 4000
20:10 <MTughan> Just the 4000 series?
20:11 <_Danilo_> yes
20:11 <MTughan> Nuts... I have a 3470.
20:13 <_Danilo_> oh, i have a i have a radeon 12xx
20:13 <_Danilo_> ops
20:13 <_Danilo_> *i have a radeon 12xx*
20:14 <_Danilo_> (sorry for my incorrect english, i'm italian
20:14 <MTughan> I used to have a Radeon 9600... Gonna probably be replaced over the holidays.
20:14 <_Danilo_> from sicily)
20:14 <MTughan> That's fine, the meaning got across.
20:14 <MTughan> Canada here. I think it might be a little colder here now. :P
20:15 <_Danilo_> i have grandfather in canada
20:15 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, that loner in my chan is lonely again ...
20:16 <MTughan> Where?
20:16 <_Danilo_> and other.., in montreal
20:16 <MTughan> Ah, not too far then. I'm in Ottawa for now.
20:16 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Why you messaging me?
20:16 <_Danilo_> i was there last yaer
20:16 <_Danilo_> :)
20:17 <MTughan> I would have been in Toronto last year, so no way we could've come close. ;)
20:17 <Soul_keeper> take care of it
20:17 <Soul_keeper> he's your friend now ...
20:17 <PovAddict> ...
20:17 <_Danilo_> i was also in Quebec
20:17 <_Danilo_> good Quebec, i love it
20:18 <_Danilo_> fantastic!
20:19 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Meh. I'm watching South Park.
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20:21 <Soul_keeper> i can't stand south park, all those squeaky voices ... a little much for an adult
20:21 <turbolover> Soul_keeper is the same kind of guy that shirked nintendo for being too kiddy and went to sega
20:21 <turbolover> im less of a man if i let myself appreciate certain media
20:21 <Soul_keeper> nah i skipped both of them
20:22 * PovAddict never owned a game console :o
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21:54 <Soul_keeper> i hope you choke on a turkey !
22:06 <efc> Gobble GobACK>..ACK... kk......
22:33 <Soul_keeper> i've found that snuff is a good food stubstitute lately :)
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23:30 <CodeBlock> hello all
23:31 <MTughan> Hey CodeBlock.
23:31 <CodeBlock> question - is it possible to set up/use boinc to contribute to a project without a GUI on the server it's on? In other words a CLI manager instead of the GUI
23:32 <MTughan> Yeah, there's two parts to the BOINC model: a core client which runs as a daemon, and a GUI manager that connects to it. What OS are you running?
23:32 <CodeBlock> MTughan: one'll be debian, one'll be Cent
23:32 <MTughan> Okay, so both Linux distros.
23:32 <CodeBlock> yep
23:33 <MTughan> I created an init script for my Linux comp... Let me just pull up what command I used to start the daemon.
23:33 <CodeBlock> MTughan: only one of them has Xorg (which i rarely use anyway), so I'm looking for a CLI-ish way of doing things
23:35 <MTughan> I used the run_client script included in the self-extracter with "--daemon" for flags. After that, you can either use the GUI manager on another computer (Mac or Windows too, not just Linux), or the boinccmd program on the CLI for control.
23:36 <MTughan> "boinccmd --help" will get you the options.
23:36 <CodeBlock> MTughan: alright, thanks
23:50 <wdsmia> Yawn
23:50 <MTughan> 'lo Doug
23:50 <wdsmia> *lo MT
23:52 <wdsmia> Michael even
23:52 <MTughan> First actually flashes me.
23:53 <wdsmia> works for me
23:53 <wdsmia> lol
23:55 * wdsmia is putting all the critters to bed
23:56 <MTughan> The llamas?
23:56 <wdsmia> Dog, Cat, Bird, Rat, ...
23:56 <MTughan> How do they get along? :P
23:57 <wdsmia> the Bird rules them all
23:57 <MTughan> lol
23:57 <MTughan> What kind of bird?
23:58 <wdsmia> its true you should see the bird take toys away from the 125 pound Dog
23:59 <wdsmia> Eclectus