IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-11-30

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02:16 <efc3> Thats pretty cool

02:22 <MTughan> efc3: You know you commented on a link almost two and a half hours after it was posted?

02:22 <efc3> Don't hurry me.

02:23 <MTughan> Are you basically as tired as I am right now then?

02:23 <MTughan> 2:24AM here.

02:25 <Tank_Master> its 23:24 here

02:25 <MTughan> PST.

02:25 <efc3> my reserves are ebbin

02:25 <efc3> looking at monitors again

02:26 <MTughan> I'm in EST... -5:00 UTC compared to -8:00 UTC.

02:26 * MTughan was looking at the Optimus keyboards

02:27 * MTughan is off to bed

02:27 <Tank_Master> gn MTughan

02:29 <efc3> 24" WS is same height as my current 17" normal

02:30 <efc3> makes it harder to talk myself into it

02:30 * Tank_Master wants a 64" 19000x14400 monitor

02:30 <Tank_Master> lol

02:31 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:31 <efc3> Its free, but the video card is gonna cost ya

02:31 <Tank_Master> :P

02:32 <Tank_Master> probably true

02:33 <efc3> its sort of like in mexico, the chile is free but the water is $50 a glass

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02:34 <Tank_Master> LOL

02:49 <yoyo[RKN]> moin Tank_Master

02:49 <Tank_Master> hiya yoyo

02:50 <Tank_Master> you still have that gpu app to test?

02:50 <yoyo[RKN]> dnet has one

02:51 <Tank_Master> ?

02:51 <yoyo[RKN]>

02:51 <Romulus> Title: Pre-Release Files (at

02:52 <Tank_Master> thx

02:52 <Tank_Master> Ill test it out tomrrow

03:08 <FreeLarry58> humm interesting - vista machine now stable in safe mode after isp had issues on thier servers last night and took down access to correct

03:09 <FreeLarry58> now over 24 hrs since last crash

03:10 * FreeLarry58 wonders what was crashing vista every 15 to 20 minutes prior to the isp going down

03:12 <Tank_Master> dunno

03:12 <Tank_Master> ID10t error?

03:12 <Tank_Master> hehe :P

03:12 <FreeLarry58> could be but this idiot hadn't done anything since last update when crashing started

03:13 <FreeLarry58> do notice a lot less activity on the modem and router now

03:14 <FreeLarry58> nothing trying to get to machines that is

03:14 <Tank_Master> huh

03:15 <FreeLarry58> all week since updates my modem and router activity lights where flashing rapidly but not my switch lights

03:15 <Tank_Master> yoyo[RKN]

03:15 <FreeLarry58> now the light are a lot slower

03:15 <Tank_Master> do you have a GPU app for win or win64?

03:16 <Tank_Master> sounds like a oconfig issue witht he router, FreeLarry

03:17 <FreeLarry58> humm factory settings currently here - think isp may have had problems with their router/switches in area - they took down two town area

03:17 <Tank_Master> ouch

03:17 <Tank_Master> musta been a serious issue to actually take the service down

03:17 <FreeLarry58> yeah but late at night so only die hards like me getting home from w/*- doticed

03:18 <FreeLarry58> noticed

03:18 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:18 <FreeLarry58> anyway time to say nn all thanks for the visit Tank_Master

03:18 <Tank_Master> np

03:18 <Tank_Master> im headin to bed to

03:18 <Tank_Master> gn ;)

03:18 <FreeLarry58> gn

03:25 <yoyo[RKN]> only for linux

03:25 <CoderForLife> ick

03:26 <CoderForLife> bleck

03:26 <Tank_Master> bummer

03:26 <CoderForLife> why wake up at 3am?

03:26 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 37.5F / 3.1C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Increasing clouds. A slight chance of rain and snow late this evening and early morning..then a chance of rain late. Temperatures increasing into the upper 30s by daybreak. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

03:27 <CoderForLife> &more

03:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: precipitation 50 percent.; Sunday - Rain. Highs in the mid 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Cloudy. A chance of rain and snow in the evening...then a chance of snow showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;

03:27 <Tank_Master> its 00:23 here

03:27 <efc3> &wx 30625

03:27 <Romulus> efc3: Temperature: 46F / 8C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Rain in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 50s. North winds 10 to 15 mph shifting to the west 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent (1 more message)

03:27 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

03:28 <CoderForLife> slept 9:30 to 1:30, then 1:30 to 3

03:28 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 51.1F / 10.6C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy...becoming partly cloudy. Areas of fog developing. Lows 35 to 40. Light wind.; Sunday - Areas of morning low clouds and fog...becoming mostly sunny. Highs 50 to 55. Northeast wind 10 mph. Near The (1 more message)

03:28 <Tank_Master> &more

03:28 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Gorge...east wind 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Areas of fog. Lows 35 to 40. East wind 10 mph. Near The Gorge...east 15 to 25 mph.;

03:28 <Tank_Master> always can tell locals wrote the weather script

03:29 <Tank_Master> "The Gorge" is capitilized

03:29 <CoderForLife> the nearest "gorge" to me is Red River Gorge

03:29 <CoderForLife>

03:29 <Romulus> Title: Red River Gorge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

03:29 <Tank_Master> they refer to the colmbia river gorge where it passes through the castcades

03:30 <Tank_Master>

03:30 <Romulus> <> (at

03:31 <CoderForLife> I've been to both Gorges

03:32 <CoderForLife> brb  emergency breakfast

03:33 <Tank_Master> c-ya later then, im off to bed

03:33 <efc3> Try our Tallulah Gorge sometime, great place to break your neck

03:34 <efc3> Many have, they sue, they lose (usually)

03:37 <Tank_Master> ours is the kitesurfing capitial of the world :

03:37 <Tank_Master> :P

03:42 <CoderForLife> b

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04:13 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

04:13 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 41°F / 5°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Clear. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Clear. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Overcast. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

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04:17 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

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04:19 <KathrynM> evening CoderForLife

04:20 <KathrynM> windows side of the computer is updated, tho not to SP1.

04:20 <KathrynM> Firefox, OO and a few other things

04:20 <CoderForLife> busy busy

04:20 <KathrynM> I spent all afternoon swearing at the computer.

04:21 <KathrynM> I had to turn off the damn AV to get OO to update.

04:21 <CoderForLife> that happens

04:21 <KathrynM> I did confirm my sound problems are not hardware, so that was productive.

04:22 <CoderForLife> "sounds" like it

04:22 <KathrynM> I was going to do all this yesterday, but I spend the day in bed with a pillow over my head trying to pretend my head wasn't going to explode.

04:22 <CoderForLife> I should have tried that

04:23 <KathrynM> Toradol (or however you speel it) is a wonderful thing.

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04:38 <CoderForLife> brb

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04:49 <CoderForLife> b

04:54 <CoderForLife> I think I'll go nap for awhile

04:54 <CoderForLife> laterz

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08:08 <xcamel> 'lo

08:48 <CoderForLife> back - morning xcamel

08:51 <xcamel> --yawn--

08:52 <CoderForLife> &quiet

08:52 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

08:54 <xcamel> trying a straight backup to this terrabook usb drive

08:54 <CoderForLife> brave

08:54 <xcamel> bz2

09:11 <xcamel> got your shopping all done?

09:12 <CoderForLife> big stuff, yes - need to get "that special" gift for Stephen yet

09:12 <CoderForLife> how about you?

09:14 <xcamel> not a thing - nope - nada

09:14 <CoderForLife> zero zilch?

09:14 <xcamel> that too.

09:15 <CoderForLife> raining/foggy

09:16 <CoderForLife> need to check on the fireplace and put some more stuff on the Christmas tree - bbl

09:19 <xcamel> that's coming this way... soon

09:49 <xcamel> ooh - great potato cannon video...

09:50 <xcamel> potato-gun-or-potato-bazooka/

09:50 <xcamel> move your cats and coffee away from the keyboard...

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11:54 <ELGono> just added todays pic

11:54 <ELGono>

11:54 <Romulus> <> (at

11:55 <ELGono> hope tomorrow will be good weather, too

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12:11 <xcamel> 'lo ElG!

12:12 <ELGono> lo jay

12:13 <xcamel> How's everything in Germany?

12:14 <ELGono> think it would be a great theme for tomorrow ... moon eating jenus with jupiter watching ... all beyond kickelhahn tower where goethe wrote some of his poems

12:14 <ELGono> venus even

12:21 <xcamel> sounds like p04n  to me...

12:22 <PovAddict> lol

12:22 <xcamel> AstroP04n!

12:35 <PovAddict> :P

12:35 <Romulus> <> (at

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13:24 <xcamel> &wx 12074

13:24 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 31.0F / -0.6C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; This Afternoon - Rain...sleet with snow and freezing rain likely. Highs in the upper 30s. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Tonight - Sleet in the evening. Rain. Lows in the mid 30s. Temperature rising (2 more messages)

13:25 <xcamel> &more

13:25 <Romulus> xcamel: into the lower 40s after midnight. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Monday - Rain in the morning...then partly sunny with a chance of rain in the afternoon. Not as cool with highs around 50. Temperature falling into the lower 40s in the afternoon. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory (1 more message)

13:25 <xcamel> &more

13:25 <Romulus> xcamel: for Saratoga County in effect until 10:00 PM EST on November 30, 2008;

13:25 <xcamel> yuk.

13:25 <Tank_Master> heh

13:25 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

13:25 <xcamel> 'lo T

13:25 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53.1F / 11.7C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of morning fog and low clouds...becoming mostly sunny early this afternoon. Highs 55 to 60. Light wind...becoming east 10 mph...but east 10 to 20 mph near the Columbia Gorge.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog. (1 more message)

13:25 <Tank_Master> &more

13:25 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Lows 40 to 45. East wind 5 to 10 mph...but east 10 to 20 mph near the Columbia Gorge.; Monday - Cloudy. Areas of fog and low clouds early. Rain likely in the afternoon. Highs around 55. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Dense Fog Advisory for Washington County in effect until 11:15 AM PST on November 30, 2008;

13:26 <Tank_Master> some foreigner wrote that

13:26 <Tank_Master> didnt refer it as "The Gorge"

13:27 <yoyo[RKN]> wb Tank_Master

13:27 <xcamel> huh?

13:27 <Tank_Master> thx yoyo[RKN]

13:28 <Tank_Master> round here we never call it "the Columbia Gorge" just "The Gorge"

13:31 <xcamel> ah.. the beautiful Columbia

13:31 <Tank_Master> yep

13:31 <xcamel> I like the Rouge better

13:31 <xcamel> one wild jet boat ride

13:32 <Tank_Master> :P

13:35 <xcamel> recommended not to be done on a full stomach.

13:38 <Tank_Master> lol

13:42 <FreeLarry58> but only for the ones who have done it before xcamel else feed up the newbies befoe taking them on boat ride

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13:44 <xcamel> hehehe...

13:45 * FreeLarry58 has small mean streak in him when waking up

13:47 <xcamel> woah.. got my new cloak... that was fast...

13:47 <xcamel> coolies.

13:47 <PovAddict> gold supporter?

13:47 <xcamel> indeed.

13:47 <xcamel> freenode has been very good to us.

13:48 <Tank_Master> nice

13:48 <PovAddict> it keeps happening that I do /join #name-of-some-software and the channel does exist... only in few cases I found freenode had no channel for something :)

13:57 <xcamel> it is indeed rare a dev project is not found on freenode.

14:05 <xcamel> snowing pretty good at the moment..

14:05 <xcamel> looks like there is going to be a mess...

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14:17 <CoderForLife> hmm

14:21 <xcamel> finally getting some channel maint done..

14:22 <CoderForLife> excellent

14:22 <xcamel> and Hi Don

14:22 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

14:22 <CoderForLife> I'm getting some good couch sitting and snoozing done

14:22 <xcamel> sounds good to me...

14:23 <CoderForLife> yeah - I need to do it occasionally

14:25 <xcamel> Just had to have the local sheriff notify some young folks from the other side of town to come and pick up all the junk they dumped out back...

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14:25 <CoderForLife> on the back road?

14:25 <xcamel> amazing how "clean" it all is now...

14:25 <xcamel> yupper...

14:25 <xcamel> a whole pick up truck load...

14:26 <CoderForLife> wow

14:26 <CoderForLife> accumulated over time, or one "party"

14:26 <efc> Moo

14:26 <Soul_keeper> bla

14:26 <CoderForLife> moo efc - wb

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14:26 <xcamel> the kid claimed they had left it at the "drop box" for the poor, and had no idea how it got back there...

14:27 <xcamel> yeah, right...

14:27 <CoderForLife> huh mystery

14:27 <xcamel> the 17 year old, his gf, and her little brother....

14:27 <efc> Trash on your road? Yeah we get that too.. Somehow they don't seem to throw out personably identifiable material though.

14:27 <xcamel> go figure..

14:28 <xcamel> a whole bag of 'seventeen' magazines was a dead giveaway

14:28 <xcamel> with the mailing labels still on..

14:28 <Soul_keeper> lol

14:29 <xcamel> um..."DUH"

14:34 <efc> If you find any "good stuff" you can dump it on my road

14:35 <efc> We mostly get beer bottles, cans, and kitchen trash. Amazing how that stuff seems to preferentially blow out of the back of trucks.

14:39 <Soul_keeper> they throw condoms over the fence in my backyard

14:40 <Tank_Master> heh

14:40 <efc> Do they take the cocaine out first?

14:41 <Tank_Master> no, they use them witht he crak in there

14:46 * efc declines to analyze the last sentence

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15:22 <wdsmia> and it starts snowing again  :/

15:23 * Tank_Master wants snow

15:23 * wdsmia throws a snowball at Tank_Master

15:23 <Tank_Master> wee!

15:24 * PovAddict throws a snow-covered rock at Tank_Master

15:25 * Tank_Master pushes PovAddict into a crevasse

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15:31 <xcamel> poofage

15:45 <wdsmia> Hmm Spits Birthday

15:47 * Tank_Master spits

15:51 * xcamel sparks a bit

16:22 <wdsmia> tv news crew outside shooting footage... they must have never seen snow before

16:23 <efc> You should listen to the news here.. 0.001% chance... BLIZZARD INCOMING

16:23 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

16:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 28.8F / -1.8C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.57in / 1001.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Snow. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. High in the mid 30s. North wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A 40 percent chance of snow in (1 more message)

16:23 <efc> I think we got 6" around '92.. and that was officially a blizzard

16:24 <wdsmia> &more

16:24 <Romulus> wdsmia: the evening. Colder. Low in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 6:00 PM CST on November 30, 2008;

16:24 <efc> Although we were out of power for a week so it was a rather severe event

16:24 <xcamel> just about to switch to freezing rain... oh joy.

16:24 <Tank_Master> fun times

16:24 <Tank_Master> its switching to sun here

16:25 <efc> &wx 30625

16:25 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 48F / 9C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.40in / 996hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance (1 more message)

16:32 <efc> &more

16:32 <Romulus> efc: of showers in the morning. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest winds around 20 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 30. West winds 5 to 15 mph.;

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16:41 <xcamel> bada-boom

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16:45 <efc> OT but.. hey Pov, can Pov do simulations of optics?

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16:49 <xcamel> glass, or other?

16:50 <efc> I was thinking various telescope types. Some reflectors, some lens, some are a combination.

16:51 <efc> The performance of the materials isn't of particular interest right now

16:55 <xcamel> the design of the scope is based entirely on what you want to accomplish (or view)

16:56 <efc> bsically i want to explore the problems that are inherent in each type. Richey-Cretian has 5th order astigmatism. Newtonian has coma. Etc.

16:57 <xcamel> Maksutov, or Mak-Newt is a great design

16:58 <xcamel> Schmidt Camera for photographic work (needs an extremely accurate drive)

16:59 <efc> 107 mm Mak on sale for $240 today hehe

16:59 <xcamel> Mine is a Ceravolo HD 216

16:59 <xcamel> Pete only made 12 of them.

16:59 <efc> Basically though all I hear is anectotal reports of why this one is good for this or that

17:03 <xcamel> the biggest drawback to the mak-newt is how hard it is to make the corrector plate and intigrated mirror

17:04 <efc> Right.. but say, the difference between what you would see with a Schmidt-Cassegrain and a Mak, I would like to quantify that..

17:05 <efc> Probably, they are all good enough for what I'd ever want to do

17:05 <efc> and if I was going to build one I'd go Newtonian just because its the most realistic

17:05 <xcamel>

17:05 <Romulus> <> (at

17:05 <efc> I have seen some RC vs SCT comparisons, with the RC generally blowing the SCT out of the water

17:08 <xcamel> RC's can be huge, but probably suffer the worst from atmosphereics

17:09 <efc> Yeah they aren't really in the same price class either

17:09 <xcamel> they are waaaaay up there...

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17:13 <efc> There was an awesome one for sale (used), custom 30" RC w/mount, a steal at $300k

17:13 <efc>

17:13 <Romulus> <> (at

17:14 <efc> Oh, only $275k.

17:17 <xcamel> OMG - and OGS!!

17:17 <xcamel> wooo-hooo

17:18 <xcamel> that is one hell of a light bucket.

17:18 <efc> Oh yeah :) I'll take that under my tree if anybody's listening. (would be a waste around here, though)

17:22 <xcamel> maybe if you lived in the middle of montana, or something

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17:23 <efc> The sky is really not too bad here at my parents place, but it would limit an instrument like that. And its only going to get worse.

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17:26 <xcamel> light pollution here has made my 12" meade about useless.

17:27 <efc> You can get filters for the high pressure sodium lights that are supposed to help a lot, though, if you're looking at a high pressure sodium star I guess you're out of luck

17:28 <PovAddict> efc: povray can simulate some weird stuff (negative IOR)

17:29 <PovAddict>

17:29 <Romulus> Title: Christoph's page - Raytracing Metamaterials with POV-Ray (at

17:30 <xcamel> I used to have a really good picture of my HD216 mounted with the TeleView 101 on top..

17:31 <PovAddict> efc: bundled sample scene:

17:31 <Romulus> <> (at

17:31 <PovAddict> takes forever to render

17:32 <PovAddict> although I don't think I tried on the dualcore :)

17:32 <efc> Plain ol' BK-7 type lens glass would suffice

17:40 <PovAddict> what exactly do you want to simulate?

17:40 <PovAddict> the "material" parameters aren't much more than the ior and reflection amount...

17:41 <PovAddict> hard to simulate "problems" with materials, any reflective surface would be "perfect"

17:41 <efc> That's all I'd need.

17:42 <efc> But the curves of the surfaces would have to be very precisely defined.

17:43 <PovAddict> can your objects be defined by a curve that you then rotate?

17:43 <PovAddict> ie. a circle would give a torus, a straight vertical line would give a cylinder

17:44 <efc> I think so. Usually sections of spheres, parabolas, or hyperbolas.

17:44 <PovAddict>

17:44 <Romulus> <> (at

17:45 <PovAddict> you can make those using cubic bezier paths

17:45 <efc> I supposed to be fair, chromatic abberation would need to be factored in with the lens though

17:45 <PovAddict> there are even some unofficial tools to graphically make them:

17:47 <efc> My simple ideas get me in a lot of trouble..

17:50 <efc> I'd basically like to project an image through a setup like this:   and see how it comes out

17:50 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:13 <xcamel> wow - that's a new one..

18:14 <xcamel> some idiot trying to inject phony click adds into the boinc logs...

18:15 <xcamel> distributed too.

18:16 <xcamel> that's 5 attempts...

18:16 <PovAddict> ?

18:18 <xcamel> I feel bad for anyone with a webserver that would let that happen..

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18:34 <xcamel> Ö

18:35 <CoderForLife> O?

18:35 <Romulus> Somebody said O is to date one of if not the hardest class I took, CoderForLife

18:36 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

18:39 * CoderForLife takes out the garbage

18:44 <Tank_Master> you taking Romulus out?

18:44 <MTughan> I wish...

18:45 <KathrynM> we can't get that lucky

18:49 <xcamel> give a bot a break, will ya?

18:49 <MTughan> Why? He's a bot.

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18:59 <xcamel> damn this is a big storm

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19:14 <xcamel> FL to ME to IA generally

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19:32 <xcamel>

19:32 <Romulus> <> (at

19:35 <efc> cool, they take PayPal

19:38 <xcamel> you'd get taken, alright...

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20:50 <CoderForLife> gn folks

20:50 <xcamel> laterz..

21:05 <up365> big storm and wierd temps, has risen 11 degrees since this am

21:06 <up365> weird even ^

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21:54 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 70F to C

21:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: 70F is not a valid unit.

21:54 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 70 F to C

21:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 21.1111111111

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23:34 <Soul_keeper> i gotta kidnap me an innocent blonde chick

23:35 <Tank_Master> same here

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23:42 * Tank_Master pushes granpa_paul into a crevasse

23:45 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, hey ! treat your elders with respect !

23:45 * Tank_Master burns Soul_keeper's house down

23:46 <Soul_keeper> i don't need help with that ...

23:46 <Tank_Master> oh, my bad

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