IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-12-01

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01:00 <efc> I scored some more peppermint patties..

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01:29 <efc> Hmm, wonder how buying from HSN is online..

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01:31 <quail> 'noon all

01:31 <efc> moo Quail

01:32 <quail> how are things efc

01:33 <efc> Pretty good, getting ready to go back to w*rk in the morning

01:34 <Soul_keeper> ok which one of you cryed when curt kobain shot himself in the face ?

01:36 <efc> I'm not sure I knew who he was

01:37 <Soul_keeper> the kid that would cry and play the acoustic

01:38 <efc> Didn't really care then. Looking at Roombas again now. HSN has the 535 for $212 with a coupon..

01:38 <Soul_keeper> yeah he offed himself on my bday

01:38 <Soul_keeper> best present ever

01:38 <efc> I'm afraid my Rooomba might shoot itself in the face when it sees this carpet

01:39 <Soul_keeper> dated Courtney Love.

01:40 <Soul_keeper> "the pair were formally introduced at an L7/Butthole Surfers concert in Los Angeles in May 1991."

01:40 <Soul_keeper> lol

01:40 <efc> I didn't ever really get into that alternative genre

01:42 <Soul_keeper> me either

01:44 <Soul_keeper> good night then

01:44 <Soul_keeper> btw "coupon" is the keyboard for google xmas deals

01:45 <efc> Hmm?

01:46 <Soul_keeper>

01:46 <Romulus> <> (at

01:47 <Tank_Master> wtf?

01:47 <Tank_Master> thats daym fugly

01:47 <Soul_keeper> she wasn't hot

01:47 <Soul_keeper> i woulda shot myself in the face too

01:48 <Tank_Master> heh

01:51 <efc> She's one of the those "right light" girls. Like, no light.

01:58 <Soul_keeper> Butthole Surfers concert  lighting ?

01:59 <efc> not familiar with their concerts, or their music

02:01 <Soul_keeper> heck i didn't name it, but i'm sure the lighting wasn't good there ...

02:03 <Soul_keeper> just debating if i wanna lay down for 2hrs and try to fall asleep, or stay awake all night

02:03 <efc> Need the sleep

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06:06 <Soul_keeper> sleep is impossible

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06:24 <hawmps> 'lo

06:30 <KathrynM> I'm an idiot.

06:30 <KathrynM> Why was my sound not working?

06:30 <KathrynM> I had the damn thing muted in the mixer.

06:30 <KathrynM> *sigh*

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06:31 <hawmps> NN then..

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07:10 <jackygrahamez> hi

07:10 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

07:10 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 44.2F / 6.8C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then (1 more message)

07:11 <jackygrahamez> &more

07:11 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

07:12 <jackygrahamez> Hi Tank_Master

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07:29 <jackygrahamez> anybody there?

07:30 <PovAdct_w> boo

07:30 <jackygrahamez> ohh scarry :-)

07:30 <jackygrahamez> :-o

07:30 <PovAdct_w> darn

07:30 <PovAdct_w> home computer uptime: 2 hours

07:31 <jackygrahamez> what do you you think of the colors I picked

07:31 <Romulus> Title: Hydrogen@Home (at

07:31 <PovAdct_w> means I had a power outage

07:31 <jackygrahamez> do you have those frequent?

07:32 <PovAdct_w> on these hot days, yes

07:32 <jackygrahamez> how hot?

07:32 <PovAdct_w> but today wasn't hot so it must be something else

07:32 <PovAdct_w> &wx eze

07:32 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Drizzle | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM ARST; Chance of Rain. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 F. / 12 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 F. (1 more message)

07:33 <PovAdct_w> what a difference

07:33 <PovAdct_w> we were in 35C a few days ago

07:33 <jackygrahamez> I was about to say, that looks like good weather

07:33 <PovAdct_w> that's thanks to the rain

07:35 <jackygrahamez> So do you think I'm color blind?

07:35 <jackygrahamez> I finally got around to messing with the style sheet

07:36 <PovAdct_w> seems... decent

07:36 <PovAdct_w> the yellow table headings on the forum look out of place though

08:07 <jackygrahamez> I replaced it with honeydew

08:07 <Romulus> Title: Hydrogen@Home Message boards (at

08:14 <hawmps> 'lo Jack, Pov

08:15 <jackygrahamez> hi hawmps

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08:31 <PovAdct_w> :o

08:32 <jackygrahamez> So who are the rascals behind

08:32 <Romulus> Title: Free Rainbow Tables » Distributed Rainbow Cracking » LM, NTLM, MD5, SHA1, HALFLMCHALL, MSCACHE (at

08:35 <PovAdct_w> I don't see what's all the fuss with that project

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08:42 <jackygrahamez> My only concern, I just don't want my research to get associated with software piracy by the uninformed. Unless I have control over a media machine, not much control I have over that

08:50 <jackygrahamez> So I'm looking to make trouble again

08:51 <jackygrahamez> I've been studying an interface for submitting chemistry jobs and talking to the developers of this interface

08:51 <jackygrahamez> I'm going to modify it so it works with BOINC

08:54 <PovAdct_w> yup

08:54 <PovAdct_w> getting into trouble again

08:55 <jackygrahamez> if your curious about it, they have a demo login

08:55 <Romulus> Title: WebMO Demo Server (at

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09:53 <jackygrahamez> Its all written in perl and I have it up on Hydrogen. So I'm going to try re-writing it a bit

10:39 <Tank_Master> hi jackygrahamez

10:39 <jackygrahamez> yo

10:39 <jackygrahamez> ok what do you think of this color scheme?

10:39 <jackygrahamez>

10:39 <Romulus> Title: Hydrogen@Home (at

10:44 <Tank_Master> kinda peachy

10:51 <Tank_Master> jack - you got spects on building my own hydrogen fusion reactor?

10:51 <Tank_Master> :P

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12:56 <Welshman> Yo

13:09 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

13:23 <Welshman> sorry, hi

13:27 <jackygrahamez> i'm back from the gym what did I miss!

13:27 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm here now, jackygrahamez

13:28 <jackygrahamez> as a mater of fact my research partner has some ideas about Deuterium, but I don't think much of them

13:29 <yoyo[RKN]> I implemented some nice bages of honor if you crunched enough yoyo

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13:39 <Welshman> rosetta having loads of problems?

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14:10 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news December 1, 2008

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16:00 <xcamel> plink

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16:39 <CoderForLife> greetings all silicon- and carbon-based life forms

16:40 <MTughan> Does that exclude you?

16:40 <CoderForLife> am I to greet myself?

16:40 <MTughan> Maybe. Are you a clone?

16:41 <CoderForLife> or am I just a random quantum fluctation in this brane?

16:41 <MTughan> Possibly... Anyway, hi.

16:41 <CoderForLife> hello Michael

16:42 <CoderForLife> thanks for taking my stupid comment to the extreme =)

16:42 <MTughan> :D

16:42 <MTughan> Do we have any silicon based lifeforms? I'm not counting computers.

16:42 <CoderForLife> Rommiw

16:42 <PovAddict> he refers to Romulus

16:42 <CoderForLife> er e

16:42 <MTughan> Ah...

16:43 <CoderForLife> PovAddict knows me pretty well by now

16:43 <CoderForLife> no new tricks for this dog

16:44 <PovAddict> wow

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16:44 <PovAddict> look at the featured article today!

16:44 <Romulus> Title: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

16:44 <CoderForLife> I just was handed a package by an elf dressed in brown

16:44 <MTughan> Well, I thought it was cold outside until I tried this water...

16:44 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, you just got that from boinc_dev?

16:44 * PovAddict nods

16:45 <MTughan> I thought it would've been talked about in here earlier, but I guess not...

16:45 <PovAddict> I joined a short while ago too

16:45 <CoderForLife> the elf was dressed in shorts

16:45 <CoderForLife> must be an Argentine elf

16:45 <MTughan> Where?! Where's the elves?!

16:46 * CoderForLife points out the window

16:46 <MTughan> Think they could make me a GTX 280 for Christmas? xD

16:46 <CoderForLife> run after him and ask

16:47 <CoderForLife> when I last saw him, he was heading your way

16:47 <MTughan> I was just thinking though... For them to make that, how small would they have to be? Not exactly like you can run after someone that small. :P

16:47 <CoderForLife> thanks for the plink, xcamel

16:48 <MTughan> Uh, wow... CoderForLife: Geolocation on your IP returns a ZIP code.

16:49 <CoderForLife> what might that be?

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16:49 <MTughan> 45040.

16:49 <CoderForLife> that's not my zip

16:50 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:50 <MTughan> All right, so either the ISP's ZIP or somewhere close.

16:50 <PovAddict> pretty close

16:50 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.2F / 0.7C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6.9mph / 11.1km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Snow showers likely this evening...becoming scattered after midnight. Little to no snow accumulation. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 15 to 20 mph... diminishing to around 10 mph late. Chance of (1 more message)

16:50 <PovAddict> off by 100

16:50 <CoderForLife> lol

16:50 <MTughan> Yeah, 100...

16:50 <PovAddict> seriously

16:50 <CoderForLife> that means.. what?

16:50 <PovAddict> I have no idea how zip codes are distributed

16:50 <PovAddict> maybe off by 100 means they're actually close

16:51 <MTughan> I'm trying to find a map...

16:51 <CoderForLife> &zip 45040

16:51 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

16:51 <PovAddict> &zipinfo 45040

16:51 <PovAddict> &zipinfo 45140

16:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: City: Mason; State: OH; County: Warren; Area Code: 513; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 39.3540 (North); Longitude: 84.3079 (West)

16:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: City: Loveland; State: OH; County: Clermont; Area Code: 513; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 39.2300 (North); Longitude: 84.2394 (West)

16:51 <CoderForLife> different counties

16:51 <CoderForLife> hey, same country!

16:52 <PovAddict> same state

16:52 <MTughan> They're actually fairly close.

16:52 <PovAddict> ...and that's about it :)

16:52 <MTughan> Key in 45140, look slightly north.

16:52 <Romulus> Title: Click for a Zip Code Boundary Map. (at

16:52 <PovAddict> "To put this into perspective, reading from L1 cache is like grabbing a piece of paper from your desk (3 seconds), L2 cache is picking up a book from a nearby shelf (14 seconds), and main system memory is taking a 4-minute walk down the hall to buy a Twix bar."

16:52 <CoderForLife> the 2 counties touch at one point

16:53 <MTughan> Actually, that doesn't sound too far off...

16:53 <MTughan> Although is that QPI, HT, or FSB based?

16:53 <PovAddict>

16:53 <Romulus> <> (at

16:54 <MTughan> FSB.

16:54 <CoderForLife> TLA based

16:56 * CoderForLife enters more UPS and FedEx tracking numbers to follow

16:58 <CoderForLife> I am tracking 6 in-bound shipments at the same time, aside from the one just delivered

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16:58 <MTughan> lol

17:01 *** CyberShopper is now known as CoderForLife

17:03 <CoderForLife> shipping estimates are funny - "Will arrive between Wednesday, 12/03/08, and Monday, 12/08/08" - sorta like "will be delivered to zip code 45040 or 45140" - what's to worry?

17:06 <CoderForLife> I need to go fill the birdfeeders before darkness claims the backyard - brb

17:24 <CoderForLife> back - the birdies said to say hi

17:25 <CoderForLife> I had 4 deer on the driveway on the way in, standing in front of the garage

17:25 <CoderForLife> didn't want to scare them into dancing on my car

17:28 <CoderForLife> It seems that changing your nick for phun in one IRC chat room can lead to ramifications in others that you may have joined  =P

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17:31 <quail> 'morning all

17:31 <Tank_Master> afternoon

17:32 <CoderForLife> evening

17:34 <quail> how are we all?

17:34 <CoderForLife> I can only speak for myself, and am loathe to do even that

17:35 * quail awaiting the courier to turn up and collect this parcel I have to send

17:35 <quail> CoderForLife: hehe

17:35 <CoderForLife> he has a parcel collection?

17:35 <CoderForLife> different shapes and sizes?

17:35 <xcamel> re-hi

17:36 <quail> CoderForLife: modem / router box size

17:36 <CoderForLife> someone let the smoke out of the stock market today - it quit working near the close

17:36 <quail> xcamel: hi

17:36 <xcamel> 6.4.2??

17:36 <CoderForLife> wb xcamel

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17:37 <Tank_Master> new version out?

17:38 <MTughan> Today.

17:38 <xcamel> acording to Rom..

17:41 <MTughan> Anyone near NBC's headquarters? Want to kick their webmaster's ass for me?

17:41 <Tank_Master> no

17:41 <Tank_Master> I wouldnt touch that with a 59 and a half foot pool

17:42 <MTughan> Trying to watch a video, gonna take about 1.5x the length of the video to load, and it's 15 minutes long.

17:42 <MTughan> And I know my connection is fast enough.

17:42 <Tank_Master> so waite 5 min before you start watching it

17:42 <MTughan> That's the problem: the Flash app they're using doesn't seem to do that.

17:43 <xcamel> this ought to be interesting...

17:45 * CoderForLife thinks xcamel is the closest to Rockefeller Center

17:45 <xcamel> Fockereller?

17:46 <CoderForLife> yup - home of the Nutcase Broadcasting Company

17:46 <CoderForLife> and that future politician - Chris Matthews

17:46 <xcamel> Nothing But Clinton network

17:47 <CoderForLife> </politics>

17:47 <xcamel> lol - crissy hissy fit

17:47 <CoderForLife> I'm getting a tingling sensation

17:48 <quail> CoderForLife: :-/

17:48 <CoderForLife> I need to stretch

17:49 <xcamel> btw.. 6.4.2 just fired right up... no problemo

17:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CoderForLife

17:49 <CoderForLife> ahhhh   that's better

17:49 <xcamel> graphics and all...

17:49 <CoderForLife> *much better

17:49 <xcamel> lol - away with a little crown on your icon..

17:50 <quail> CoderForLife: on a power trip?

17:50 <CoderForLife> * are you talking to me?

17:51 <CoderForLife> * you'll have to speak to Scheduling

17:51 <quail> hehe

17:52 <quail> well the courier just been and left :-)

17:52 <CoderForLife> did he took like the thieving type?

17:52 <CoderForLife> er look

17:53 <quail> nah he looked like a grandpa, I was wondering were his zimmer frame was :-P

17:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o CoderForLife

17:55 <CoderForLife> I feel somehow diminished

17:56 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:56 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

17:56 <wdsmia> hey Don

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18:05 <xcamel> menwhile...

18:06 <CoderForLife> back at the lledgerock...

18:11 <CoderForLife> here ya go quail,2933,459428,00.html

18:11 <Romulus> <> (at

18:13 <CoderForLife> well - I need to submerge and work on the warbrd museum web site - I'll see you all back here soon - gn

18:14 <xcamel> laterz..

18:14 <CoderForLife> cya

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18:25 <xcamel> 'lo zombie

18:27 <PovAddict> xcamel: do you have a GPU to test with? :)

18:28 <quail> CoderForLife: nice, I missed it

18:28 <xcamel> I might..

18:29 <xcamel> is there a place to 'turn it on' ?

18:29 <PovAddict> no, you just attach to a GPU-enabled project

18:29 <PovAddict> ie. GPUGRID

18:29 <xcamel> figures..

18:30 <PovAddict> startup messages should have said something about your GPU specs, and if it found CUDA

18:30 <xcamel> no cuda devices found

18:30 <PovAddict> oh well

18:31 <PovAddict> what gfx card?

18:31 <xcamel> nvidia something or nother

18:31 <MTughan> &google GPU-Z

18:31 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.11 seconds: GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility: <>; techPowerUp! :: Downloads: <>; GPU-Z - Free software downloads and reviews - CNET <>; Download GPU-Z 0.2.8 - (2 more messages)

18:31 <xcamel> funny I don't remember

18:31 <MTughan> Use that, will tell you.

18:32 <MTughan> And much more.

18:32 <PovAddict> ...if he has WIndows on that machine...

18:32 <xcamel> not in linux it won't

18:32 <MTughan> Ah, good point...

18:32 <xcamel> {duh}

18:32 <MTughan> Sorry, forgot about that. :P

18:35 * KathrynM yawns

18:35 <xcamel> no good on the lonely winduhs box either

18:41 <zombie67> hi

18:41 <MTughan> 'lo zombie

18:47 <xcamel> well, at least it looks like 6.4.2 is fast, clear, and sharp.

18:47 <PovAddict> one of the reasons is that the Manager was rolled back to the one in 6.2 :)

18:47 <xcamel> works for me.

18:49 <KathrynM> :)

18:49 <KathrynM> simap has work

18:50 <MTughan> Heh...

18:50 <Romulus> <> (at

18:51 <MTughan> wdsmia oughta like that one. :P

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19:11 <xcamel> cute

19:11 <xcamel> &katz

19:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

19:11 <xcamel> &catz

19:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Are you daft?

19:11 <xcamel> damn thing

19:12 <xcamel> &whatis katz

19:12 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No factoid matches that key.

19:12 <xcamel> &whatis catz

19:12 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: No factoid matches that key.

19:14 <xcamel> &catz

19:14 <Romulus>

19:15 <xcamel> &dogz

19:15 <Romulus>

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19:31 <zombie67> so....stay with 6.2 for now?

19:48 <xcamel> 6.4 works great so far..

19:48 <xcamel> cuda or not

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19:49 <Tank_Master> have you used 6.4.2 yet?

19:49 <xcamel> 'lo e

19:50 <xcamel> using it now on 4 machines

19:50 <efc> Hey

19:51 <efc> "We do not share your personal information except where required to complete a transaction on your behalf or where permitted by law." Gee thanks so much

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20:10 <MTughan> Cool... Looks I'm close to finishing a 19h ABC WU. Probably a 1K one.

20:19 <xcamel> indeed

20:40 * efc gets tired of Dell yanking their prices around

20:43 <xcamel> Dell Hell

20:43 <efc> I like their monitors at least, but they really yank around the prices, $517 to 689 in one day

20:44 <xcamel> priced by demand

20:47 <efc> My demand went to zero

20:56 <zombie67> TM??

20:56 <Romulus> hmm... TM is selling a bunch, zombie67

21:00 <efc> I think they raise it during the business week, at least

21:02 * quail looking into getting a dell laptop

21:05 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You have a visitor.

21:23 <MTughan> I think I found a BOINC bug...

21:23 <MTughan> While logged into a remote machine, if that connection gets physically cut off, the manager freezes.

21:26 <PovAddict> ha

21:26 <PovAddict> that's nothing

21:27 <MTughan> I know, but it's there.

21:27 <PovAddict> disconnect from the 'net, let BOINC contact a project

21:27 <PovAddict> it will hang on DNS resolution for like 30 seconds

21:27 <PovAddict> during that time, it won't reply to manager requests

21:27 <PovAddict> manager will hang too

21:27 <MTughan> Ah, the wonders of single threading...

21:27 <PovAddict> also won't reply science app heartbeats, so science apps might say "no heartbeat in X seconds" and quit

21:28 <PovAddict> so when finally the client says "connection timeout", it will also say "task quit with zero return code but no "finished" file, restarting"

21:28 <PovAddict> and the stupid "if this happens repeatedly you may have to detach"

21:30 <MTughan> Isn't it reattach?

21:30 <PovAddict> whatever

21:30 <PovAddict> w,etf

21:31 <MTughan> And then something that's not BOINC's fault, but I loathe anyway...

21:31 <MTughan> Connecting to my laptop with RPC, the IP addresses changes every time.

21:31 <MTughan> Thinking about possibly creating a small subnet using my new computer as a router and webserver.

21:33 <xcamel> <PovAddict> manager will hang too... well hung?

21:33 <xcamel> or 'johnny hung'

21:34 <MTughan> xcamel: Don't go there.

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21:53 * Tank_Master forgets what he was selling

22:12 <zombie67> Pownce is shutting down

22:12 <PovAddict> hm?

22:12 <PovAddict> that a machine name?

22:15 <zombie67>

22:15 <Romulus> Title: Pownce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

22:15 <zombie67> a twitter-like serivce

22:30 <zombie67> tank_master

22:30 <Tank_Master> what?

22:33 <Tank_Master> zombie67

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22:43 <MTughan> 'lo Nickuwo

22:43 <Nickuwo> Hey MT, whats up?

22:43 <MTughan> Apparently, a celestial smile tonight.

22:43 <zombie67> TM!

22:44 <zombie67> why aren't you on the team channel?

22:44 <zombie67> ni nick

22:44 <Tank_Master> I am

22:44 <zombie67> no, you're not

22:44 <Nickuwo> hey zombie

22:44 <zombie67> split?

22:45 * PovAddict drags himself to sleep

22:45 <Tank_Master> dunno, but Ive been talkin to boston and junks for a while now

22:45 <zombie67> gn

22:45 <Tank_Master> gn PovAddict

22:45 <zombie67> what the heck?

22:45 <Romulus> hmm... what the heck is exit code 193, zombie67

22:45 <MTughan> lol

22:45 * Tank_Master burns Romulus's house down

22:45 <Nickuwo> c ya pov

22:45 <zombie67> tm, I see SB and the netbot

22:45 <Tank_Master> hiya Nickuwo

22:45 <Tank_Master> oh, your on SB's server

22:46 <zombie67> ??

22:46 <Tank_Master> not the icq

22:46 <zombie67> brb

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22:46 <Nickuwo> hey tank

22:46 <Tank_Master> heh

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22:46 <Tank_Master> hows the project goin?

22:47 <zombie67> can't seem to be able to join

22:48 <Nickuwo> pretty good, I actually had some time to work on i9t over thanksgiving break

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22:50 <Tank_Master> nice!

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22:53 <MTughan> zombie67: Connection troubles?

22:55 <Tank_Master> he couldnt connect to the team's main chat room

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23:01 <zombie67> guh

23:01 <zombie67> something about this location won't let me in

23:01 <Tank_Master> odd

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