IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-12-03

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01:20 <efc> Zzzz

01:21 <Tank_Master> hey

01:22 <efc> quiet night

01:29 * efc taps the strategic peppermind patty reserve

02:41 <Tank_Master> to quiet

02:41 <Tank_Master> doesnt keep me awake

02:42 <quail> 'evening all

02:42 <Tank_Master> hey

02:43 <quail> how are things?

02:43 <Tank_Master> quiet

02:43 <quail> :-)

02:44 <quail> it bit of a quiet evening here too

02:45 <Tank_Master> im just catching up on the comics in my e-mail

02:45 <quail> :-)

02:53 <efc> moo quail

02:53 <efc> $621 million for the new capitol visitors center

02:53 <quail> meep meep efc

02:54 <efc> On full Spaceheater@home burn now

02:54 <Tank_Master> lol

02:56 <efc> i haven't looked at my 401k lately.. its like pulling the diaper off a baby.. you know it stinks, don't need to look

02:56 <Tank_Master> :P

02:57 <quail> hehe

03:01 <Tank_Master> man, its midnight already?

03:02 <efc> Zzzzz

03:02 <efc> &wx 31088

03:02 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 29F / -2C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1027hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Light and variable winds.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. South winds 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds.;

03:02 <quail> &wx ypad

03:02 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Overcast. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Rain. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 F. / 16 (1 more message)

03:03 <efc> Trade ya

03:03 <quail> ;-)

03:04 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

03:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 44.1F / 6.7C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Isolated sprinkles. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the mid to upper 40s. West wind 5 to 10 mph becoming light overnight.; Wednesday - Cloudy in the morning...then partly sunny. Patchy fog in the (1 more message)

03:04 <Tank_Master> &more

03:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: morning. Highs 50 to 55. Light wind.; Wednesday Night - Evening clearing. Lows in the 30s to lower 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge east wind 15 to 25 mph gusts to 40 mph.;

03:08 <efc> hmm, this planetary exploration special has humans visiting Venus first. Ugh.

03:09 <Tank_Master> waa?

03:10 <Tank_Master> Ill take mars, you can keep venus

03:10 <efc> they only stayed an hour on venus

03:10 <efc> Thats like 5 trillion down the drain

03:14 <efc> This appears to be a mission designed primarily around killing the crew

03:14 <Tank_Master> who's idea is this?

03:15 <efc> the BBC's

03:15 <efc> Thank goodness they can't kill anyone but British actors, and we have plenty of those.

03:21 <Tank_Master> lol

03:21 <quail> ;-)

03:22 <quail> british comedy is great

03:22 <Tank_Master> love Dr Who

03:23 <Tank_Master> ;)

03:23 <quail> and torchwood is a good british sci fi program

03:23 <Tank_Master> YES

03:23 <Tank_Master> defently

03:23 <quail> dro who rocks too

03:23 <Tank_Master> though I dont get why torchwood is in HD and Dr Who isnt

03:23 <Tank_Master> even on the HD sci-fi channle its still standard deff upscaled to HD

03:24 <quail> ah, dr who has not been on here for a while now

03:24 <Tank_Master> few months anyway

03:30 <quail> ah

03:31 <efc> Send crewmember to Io. Uh-huh.

03:32 * quail thinks the cold is effecting efc :-P

03:33 <efc> They are doing a one mission tour, venus mars sun jupiter

03:35 <quail> who are?

03:35 <efc> this bbc fiction thing

03:36 <efc> I don't think NASA is that stupid yet

03:36 <Tank_Master> maybe after obama is done...

03:36 <efc> I don't think we'll be sending so much as a weather balloon after that

03:37 <efc> not that its really his fault

03:38 <Tank_Master> true

03:43 <efc> their mission seems to have recruited from that drill team that bruce willis had

03:43 <Tank_Master> haha

03:47 <Soul_keeper> i don't get it, a 6yr old 15" laptop has an lcd that can do 1600x1200   yet current desktop lcd's need to go all the way up to like 24" just to break that (1920x1200)    why not  2560x1600 or higher ?   why has the technology not caught up to old laptops ?

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03:48 <efc> I dunno, but the laptop screens are really slow

03:50 <Tank_Master> my 10 year old CRT can do 2048x1536

03:50 <Tank_Master> it wasnt till able 3 or 4 years ago that ANY LCD could do that

03:52 <EL_Gono> snow storm outside .... cpu dropping to 25C

03:52 <Tank_Master> :)

03:53 <Tank_Master> snow is fun

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03:53 <Soul_keeper> yeah LCDs still aren't impressive

03:54 <Tank_Master> only thing going for them now is that they do get up to 30" and do have a higher res than 2048x1536

03:54 <Tank_Master> if you can afford them that is

03:54 <Soul_keeper> yeah they cost 1000 bucks at 30" and can do  2560x1600

03:55 <Tank_Master> I spent 1700 on my CRT :P

03:55 <Soul_keeper> how big is the screen size ?

03:55 <Tank_Master> 21"

03:55 <ELGono> yea i'm still happy with my Eizo crt too

03:55 <Soul_keeper> impressive

03:55 <Tank_Master> .23dp

03:55 <Soul_keeper> my 21" CRT only does 1600x1200

03:56 <Tank_Master> what ezio, ELGono?

03:56 <ELGono> 3x 21" and one 17" lcd here

03:56 <Tank_Master> mine is the f980

03:56 <Soul_keeper> i want a 24" lcd  but i'm having a hard time being convinced that it's much of an upgrade from what i got

03:56 <efc> i've been looking for something new too..

03:57 <ELGono> F 78 ... 130kHz

03:57 <efc> the dell 24 is nice, but the 40 ms lag scares me off

03:57 <Soul_keeper> knowing my luck i'll buy a 24" that does 1920x1200   then next year they'll release ones that do 2560x1600 at that screen size

03:57 <ELGono> and with matrox card 1600 is real sharp

03:58 <Soul_keeper> they are saying you can notice the ghosting on the 5ms 30" LCDs

03:58 <Soul_keeper> so i guess 2ms is a must if you don't want ghosting, i dunno

03:58 <Tank_Master> wvwn with a DVI cable?

03:58 <efc> they seem to buffer up a frame or two on some of them

03:59 <Tank_Master> even*

03:59 <efc> 5 is probably good if its not a lie

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04:01 <ELGono> &coffee

04:01 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

04:01 <Tank_Master> nope

04:01 <Tank_Master> not strong enough

04:02 <Soul_keeper> lol

04:02 <Soul_keeper> it's 1am here ...

04:02 <Tank_Master> close to that here

04:02 <Tank_Master> or after

04:02 <Tank_Master> n/m

04:02 <Tank_Master> 1:02

04:02 <Soul_keeper> 24" LCDs go for about 350 bucks it seems  btw

04:03 <Soul_keeper> i payed 350 bucks for this 21" CRT 5yrs ago

04:03 <efc> the dell was $517 but they yanked it back to 689

04:03 <Soul_keeper> i heard the HP ones were better than dell, but both seem out of my price range

04:05 <Soul_keeper> amazing i just found a 24" that was returned "open box"  going for under 200 bucks

04:08 <Soul_keeper> probably got returned cause it didn't have the hdmi connector

04:11 <Soul_keeper> i bet after xmas they'll have a bunch of open box sales :)

04:13 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed

04:13 <Soul_keeper> good luck

04:14 <Tank_Master> thx

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04:56 <CoderForLife> ack

04:56 <quail> 'evening CoderForLife

04:56 <CoderForLife> blech

04:56 <quail> huh?

04:57 <CoderForLife> I don't wake up well anymore

04:57 <quail> :-(

04:57 <quail> how come?

04:57 <CoderForLife> I think it's due to these 2 guys with hammers sitting on my shoulders

04:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 28.2F / -2.1C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Today - Partly sunny until late afternoon...then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of rain showers late. Highs around 50. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Rain showers. A (1 more message)

04:59 <CoderForLife> &more

04:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of snow showers after midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west after midnight. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.;

05:00 <quail> CoderForLife: take it you got a headarce?

05:02 <CoderForLife> yes - those hammers are hitting prettty hard

05:03 * quail hands CoderForLife a couple panadol

05:06 * CoderForLife pops off his head, and drops the pills down his throat

05:07 <CoderForLife> dang - didn't win the grand prize in the lottery overnight

05:07 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll have to get my own breakfast

05:08 <CoderForLife> brb

05:10 <quail> k

05:17 <CoderForLife> b w/b

05:17 <quail> b

05:17 <quail> wb

05:17 <CoderForLife> t

05:17 * quail has a hot milo n malt

05:20 <CoderForLife> looks like the new laundry room cabinets will be delivered today

05:20 <CoderForLife> that implies what I'll be doing this weekend

05:20 <quail> nice

05:21 <quail> CoderForLife: my new firewall / gateway / router / server computer is rocking along

05:21 <CoderForLife> that is a good thing

05:21 <quail> well it not a new computer rather just a fresh install

05:23 * CoderForLife reads the news

05:23 <quail> IPCop install that I was using in the past was proving to be bit hard to advance on

05:25 <CoderForLife> "Chambliss wins in Georgia" - excellent

05:26 <quail> :-)

05:26 <quail> CoderForLife: so what have you got planned for the day?

05:26 <CoderForLife> w@#%

05:27 <CoderForLife> a meeting starts 2 hours from now

05:27 <quail> :-/

05:27 <CoderForLife> runs from 7:30 am to 10

05:27 <quail> eep that an early meeting

05:28 <CoderForLife> weekly staff beat^H^H^H^Hmeeting

05:29 <CoderForLife> then I'll be talking with one of our strategic vendors on how to salvage the relationship

05:30 <quail> oh, business troubles :-(

05:30 <CoderForLife> then I'll be working on a contract revision proposal to change some software licensing and maintenance commitments

05:30 <CoderForLife> maybe I'll work on the warbird museum online store later in the day

05:31 <CoderForLife> all in a day's w@#%

05:31 <quail> and before you know it the days over

05:31 <CoderForLife> yup

05:33 * quail feels bit bloated after his suppa

05:44 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

06:18 <CoderForLife> b

06:20 <quail> wb

06:20 <CoderForLife> thx

06:20 <CoderForLife> final departure prep

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06:22 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

06:22 <hawmps> 'ello

06:22 <CoderForLife> well - I'm off to w@#%

06:22 * CoderForLife jumps up on his mighty steed named Accord

06:22 *** hawmps sets mode: -o hawmps

06:23 <CoderForLife> hi ho Accord - away

06:25 <hawmps> plink >> 58.82.204.89  221.207.12.155  80.191.129.135  61.238.151.112

06:57 <quail> hawmps: thanks

06:59 <hawmps> hiya Q

06:59 <quail> ay hawmps, how are things?

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07:11 <hawmps> good enough

07:18 <quail> :-)

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07:37 <hawmps> Fedora 10 Cambridge Released

07:37 <hawmps> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_10&num=1

07:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6bwpo5> (at www.phoronix.com)

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08:24 <hawmps> more: 61.238.151.112 210.75.200.9

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08:28 <wdsmia_w> Man its a mess out there

08:28 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:28 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 26.2F / -3.2C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Snow in the morning...then a slight chance of snow in the afternoon. Areas of blowing snow through the day. Colder. Snow accumulation of 3 to 4 inches. High in the upper 20s. Temperature steady or slowly (2 more messages)

08:28 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:28 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: falling in the afternoon. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Colder. Scattered flurries. Low 10 to 15. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Scattered flurries. High in the mid 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect (1 more message)

08:28 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:28 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: until 6:00 PM CST on December 03, 2008;

08:34 <Soul_keeper> i made two spiders fight .... i shoulda recorded it

08:35 <PovAdct_w> ...

08:35 <ELGono> heavy snowfall here

08:35 <PovAdct_w> dude that was totally youtube material

08:35 <ELGono> about 20cm last two hours

08:39 <quail> rofl =>  http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/specs-released-for-nsw-school-laptops/2008/12/03/1228257109543.html <= they want the comps to be locked down on and only go on the det network / not remove det apps.  that's like big brother hello ?

08:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6kcz3c> (at www.theage.com.au)

08:44 <PovAdct_w> for LAPTOPS?

08:45 <PovAdct_w> that's ridiculous

08:45 <PovAdct_w> locking down makes some sense if they're desktop computers owned by the school and in the school building

08:46 <Soul_keeper> yeah the spiders were the same size too ..

08:46 <Soul_keeper> the one that owned the web ended up winning

08:46 <Soul_keeper> knew his own turf i guess

08:56 <quail> PovAdct_w: true

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09:15 <Welshman> Yo

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09:49 <hawmps> 'hi

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10:03 <Soul_keeper> http://www.azcentral.com/commphoto_images/commphotos/2/2/0/220752.jpg

10:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5u3n55> (at www.azcentral.com)

10:03 <PovAdct_w> :o

10:05 <MadHag> yo yo yo

10:05 <MadHag> over 50k :)

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10:06 <MadHag> small fry I guess but I am happy

10:17 <hawmps> happy is good..

10:20 <wdsmia_w> 17,010,093.21 :)

10:22 <MadHag> unhappy is bad I guess

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10:27 <jackygrahamez> hi

10:28 <jackygrahamez> anyone here know of a package that supports unrar

10:28 <jackygrahamez> I want to unrar a file

10:41 <jackygrahamez> ?

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10:50 <PovAdct_w> yes, "unrar"

10:50 <jackygrahamez> hmm I'm looking for that using yum

10:51 <jackygrahamez> I tried compiling one from this site

10:51 <jackygrahamez> http://home.gna.org/unrar/

10:51 <Romulus> Title: unrar (at home.gna.org)

10:53 <PovAdct_w> unrar is a proprietary format with lots of usage limits

10:53 <PovAdct_w> they give decompression source code with limits like "you may not use this to reverse-engineer the *compression* algorithms"

10:54 <PovAdct_w> so most linux distros would consider it "non-free"

10:54 <jackygrahamez> it compiled but it does not seem to decompress the file I recieved

10:57 <PovAdct_w> files compressed with new winrars use a different compression algorithm

10:57 <PovAdct_w> free unrars don't support it

10:58 <PovAdct_w> "Please note: further development of unrarlib has been stopped. The current version is stable but supports only old RAR2 archives."

10:58 <PovAdct_w> "If you need to read RAR3 archives, please use the WinRAR or the original unrar source code"

10:59 <PovAdct_w> ftp://ftp.rarlabs.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.7.8.tar.gz

11:01 <jackygrahamez> I just did it locally using 7-zip

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11:04 <PovAdct_w> 7zip uses that same lib (last link)

11:04 <jackygrahamez> I was able to get a 7zip package loaded but I'm having trouble figuring how to run it

11:05 <PovAdct_w> there is no 7zip GUI for Linux

11:05 <jackygrahamez> hmm this is what I got p7zip.i386

11:06 <PovAdct_w> it only does 7zip

11:06 <PovAdct_w> and I think only 7zip with LZMA

11:06 <PovAdct_w> it's not a multiformat file compression program like 7zip for Windows (which supports zip, gz, bz2, and read-only rar)

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11:14 <jackygrahamez> got it working!

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16:41 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:40 <CoderForLife> yipes

17:40 <xcamel> that too...

17:40 <PovAddict> quiet channel

17:41 <xcamel> I figure Doug was trying to purge the list..

17:41 <xcamel> ... by force.

17:42 <CoderForLife> I wrote Chase a check and they must've mis-keyed it into their system, short-paying a credit card by $200.  Just got the electronic draft back against my hceking account, and it's $200 short of what I wroite the check for.

17:43 <CoderForLife> Good news is they didn't draft more than they credited; bad news is there will be finance charges

17:43 <CoderForLife> This'll make an entertaining letter.

17:43 <xcamel> worse news it they'll never take the blame for it.

17:43 <CoderForLife> oh noooo

17:44 <PovAddict> a BOINC bug is 1 year - 8 days old

17:44 <PovAddict> I wonder if I should report it, or wait for its birthday

17:44 <xcamel> kill it.

17:44 <CoderForLife> I pay this card in full every month - why would I suddenlt lose my mid and short-pay it?

17:44 <xcamel> ditto here...

17:45 <CoderForLife> you'd think they'd have some pattern detection exception reporting

17:46 <CoderForLife> this guy with an 805 credit rating suddenly wants credit card interest - might it be our fault?

17:46 <xcamel> it's happened to me a couple times.. they've always reversed it.

17:47 <CoderForLife> I'm sure it's happened before - fat fingerism is a rampant disease

17:49 <CoderForLife> btw xcamel - hooray for Chambliss

17:50 <wdsmia> Damn came home and heat is out

17:50 <CoderForLife> ut oh

17:51 <CoderForLife> open the door to the computers

17:51 <xcamel> ouch

17:56 <wdsmia> looks like the combustion fan moter siezed :(

17:56 <CoderForLife> way un-good

17:56 <wdsmia> er motor

17:56 <CoderForLife> anyplace to go for replacement?

17:57 <CoderForLife> or call for help?

17:57 <wdsmia> with the temp falling into the single digits tonight guess I will have to pay the furness man overtime

17:58 <CoderForLife> that's unfortunate

17:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 50319

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17:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 23.0F / -5.0C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Colder. Scattered flurries. Low around 15. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of snow in the morning... then a slight chance of light snow showers in the (1 more message)

17:59 <CoderForLife> &more

17:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: afternoon. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Low 5 to 10 above. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:00 <CoderForLife> seems like it will be a balmy 15, wdsmia

18:00 <CoderForLife> with some wind chill to cool you down

18:03 <xcamel> going to get kind of unpleasant here tomorrow too.

18:04 <CoderForLife> there's a cold wind a-blowin' in

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18:04 <xcamel> yeah... called winter.

18:04 <CoderForLife> funny that

18:05 <xcamel> I want my global warming back.

18:05 <CoderForLife> I'm ready for spring

18:05 <xcamel> far too many people die of the cold.

18:06 <xcamel> the only people that die of the hot are when her father catches him.

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18:08 <CoderForLife> heh

18:09 <xcamel> even freezin at the moment

18:10 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go downstairs and use the laptop on the couch - got to prepare a counter-proposal on a software maintenance agreement for w@#% - all very exciting stuff

18:10 <CoderForLife> laterz

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18:26 <quail> 'morning

18:30 <xcamel> 'lo

18:33 <quail> &wx ypad

18:33 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:30 AM CST; Chance of Rain. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Overcast. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Clear. Low:51 F. / 11 (1 more message)

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18:43 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:28 F. / -2 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:17 F. / -8 C.; Clear. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Clear. Low:17 F. / -8 C.;

18:56 <xcamel> 'lo K

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19:51 <quail> re 'morning

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19:55 <xcamel> http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/videos/view/56-Electric-Drag-Racing

19:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6ljnw6> (at www.opb.org)

19:56 <xcamel> long, but worth it.

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20:38 <MTughan> xcamel: One thing. They say he never put out an ounce of pollution? But where does the electricity come from?

20:38 <PovAddict> trees

20:39 <MTughan> I'll admit, that's damn cool and progressive, but I don't like misleading info.

20:39 <MTughan> Heh.

20:39 <PovAddict> same place as money

20:39 <MTughan> In the US, it's more than likely coming from coal.

20:57 <quail> or nucular

21:03 <xcamel> coal, hydro, nukes, nat gas, solar, wind, hydrothermal, could be anywhere...

21:03 <MTughan> Coal's still the big one.

21:04 <quail> yeah

21:04 <quail> they want to build couple nucular power stations here in AU

21:10 <xcamel> modern nukes are probably the best option going - especially PBR's (look it up)

21:11 <MTughan> At least at this point, they're the only major thing that can replace coal.

21:12 <PovAddict> according to wikipedia, PBR stands for two dozen things

21:13 <MTughan> I think he means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

21:13 <Romulus> Title: Pebble bed reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

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23:14 <wdsmia> yawn

23:33 <quail> 'noon

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