IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2008-12-04

00:05 * CoderForLife thinks insomnia is not a good thing

00:05 * CoderForLife throws himself back into the bed

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00:41 * wdsmia is pulling a all nighter feeding the fireplace

00:43 <efc> Logs, pellets, eh?

00:58 <wdsmia> logs

01:04 <efc> It would be cool to have the wood stove hooked into the water heater and air handling, but we don't

01:13 * FreeLarry58 thinks set blower in room with stove and use plastic to direct output into air duct

01:16 <efc> Some variation of that, yet..

01:17 <efc> otherwise the heat doesn't distribute all that well

01:17 <FreeLarry58> dont need lots of pressure just some force to get hot air into ductwork - it will work its way thru house

01:18 <FreeLarry58> not enough of plumber to try and setup a hx for exh/direct contact to water to transfer heat into hot water heater

01:19 <FreeLarry58> as for rest of house - at furthest point set another blower with intake ducted to air register to help pull

01:21 * FreeLarry58 wonders if those small case blowers for comps would move enough air?

01:21 <FreeLarry58> after all the duct works are normally fairly small x-sections

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01:31 <efc> Hmm, might help some

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02:22 <quail> plink 64.38.192.0/18

03:17 <quail> 'evening all

03:19 <Tank_Master> evening

03:21 <quail> how are we all?

03:21 <efc> moo quail

03:21 <quail> everyone get the plink?

03:22 <efc> Yep

03:28 <quail> that plink, I was get hit from 3 diff IPs in that net block, but I thought better to DROP the whole net block

03:29 <quail> they been hitting me on UDP 7

03:31 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

03:31 <efc> night TM

03:33 <quail> Tank_Master: nn

03:34 <quail> &wx ypad

03:34 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Overcast. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Overcast. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.;

03:35 <efc> &wx 31088

03:35 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 30s. Light and variable winds.; Thursday - Mostly sunny in the morning...then partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 15 mph.; (1 more message)

03:35 <efc> &more

03:35 <Romulus> efc: Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of showers. Lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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04:52 <quail> 'evening CoderForLife

04:52 <CoderForLife> morning quail

04:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o CoderForLife

04:53 <quail> CoderForLife: you prob missed my plink earlier

04:53 <quail> CoderForLife: plink 64.38.192.0/18

04:53 <CoderForLife> I was offline

04:53 <CoderForLife> apparently

04:54 <CoderForLife> got it - thx for the plink

04:54 <quail> np

04:55 <CoderForLife> I feel like something the cat deposited at the front door

04:55 * quail enjoys his milo n malt

04:55 <quail> CoderForLife: :-/

04:56 * CoderForLife checks shipping status of gifts

04:56 <CoderForLife> no change since 11:00pm

04:57 <quail> CoderForLife: oh you sending me a gift, you such a nice bloke ;-)

04:57 <CoderForLife> no, you'd have to come here to get that

04:58 <quail> oh

04:59 * quail wishes could make it there, but moneies rather tight now :-/

05:00 <quail> CoderForLife: you know how to create a web page for displaying services

05:01 <quail> I'd prefer the page to be just plain html

05:01 <CoderForLife> I'd have to say that I do

05:02 <quail> CoderForLife: have you got a sample of it please?

05:02 <CoderForLife> what do you mean "displaying services"?

05:03 <quail> service status

05:03 <CoderForLife> oh

05:03 <quail> eg is a service running or not

05:03 <CoderForLife> no - I don't have something like that

05:08 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:10 <quail> k

05:10 <quail> k

05:13 * quail has spag bowl

05:16 <CoderForLife> b

05:16 <quail> wb

05:16 <CoderForLife> thx

05:17 <quail> hehe, it funny you are having breakfast and I am having suppa(dinner)

05:17 <CoderForLife> if you wouldn't insist on not adopting my timezone, it wouldn't be that way

05:20 <quail> I would but people will find it strange when they ask me the time and I give them a USA time :-P

05:20 <Soul_keeper> what's all this talking !?!?

05:21 <quail> Soul_keeper: go back to bed :-P

05:21 <Soul_keeper> i'm eating nothing at 2:20am

05:21 <Soul_keeper> you lucky freaks

05:21 <CoderForLife> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,461447,00.html

05:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5tmou9> (at www.foxnews.com)

05:21 <CoderForLife> speaking of lucky

05:22 <Soul_keeper> lol

05:25 <Soul_keeper> i've probably eaten breakfast nomore than 100 times in my life

05:25 <CoderForLife> did you have something against Cocoa Puffs as a kid?

05:25 <Soul_keeper> maybe i can get some of that here in another 3hrs

05:25 <Soul_keeper> i guess

05:26 <CoderForLife> Frosted Flakes?  Rice Krispies?

05:26 <Soul_keeper> was always a dinner guy

05:26 <CoderForLife> Cheerios?

05:27 <CoderForLife> breakfast is the key to financial success and power - oops

05:27 <CoderForLife> =)

05:27 <Soul_keeper> excellent

05:30 <CoderForLife> you, like I, should have picked wealthier parents, eh?

05:31 * quail a lunch and suppa man

05:31 * quail loves having a big lunch

05:31 <CoderForLife> I celebrate all 3 liberally

05:34 * quail always starts the day off though with a glass of juice

05:34 <Soul_keeper> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,461447,00.html#

05:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5tmou9> (at www.foxnews.com)

05:35 <Soul_keeper> harvard lost 8 billion dollars in 4 months ...

05:35 <quail> normally blackcurrent and cranberry juice

05:36 <quail> but apple and cranberry juice is nice too

05:36 <CoderForLife> well time for me to get ready - bbiab

05:37 <quail> k

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05:44 <xcamel> boo

05:59 <quail> meep meep

06:13 <CoderForLife> b

06:16 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:16 <CoderForLife> laterz

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08:23 * KathrynM notes her apartment is nicely decorated for Christmas

08:24 * KathrynM also notes it's one sad Christmas tree

08:24 <KathrynM> Think the one from "A Charlie Brown Christmas"

08:24 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

08:24 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:22 F. / -5 C.; Clear. High:32 F. / 0 C.; Clear. Low:28 F. / -2 C.;

08:33 <quail> ay KathrynM

08:34 <KathrynM> hiya quail

08:34 <quail> how are you?

08:34 <KathrynM> tired.

08:34 <KathrynM> getting ready for bed

08:35 * quail getting bit that way too

08:35 * KathrynM closes Firefox and heads toward the bed

08:35 <quail> KathrynM: nn

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09:39 <quail> 'evening Tank_Master-

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10:59 <hawmps> another one..

10:59 <hawmps> 203.76.168.102

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12:10 <MTughan> 'lo Tank_Master

12:10 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

12:10 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

12:13 <Tank_Master> mornin yoyo

12:13 <MTughan> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=4334877 <- Core i7 Host on Einstein.

12:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6fyrx6> (at boincstats.com)

12:13 <yoyo[RKN]> oh, Tank_Master is already here

12:14 <Tank_Master> its 9:15 here

12:14 <MTughan> I had an exam at 9AM.

12:15 <quail> 'morning

12:16 <MTughan> 'lo quail

12:16 <quail> how are we all going?

12:16 <MTughan> Isn't a little late there?

12:17 <quail> yeah, but I have to pull a all nighter to get all this bind and dhcp stuff out the way

12:19 <quail> but this jazz I am listening to is keeping me going tho

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14:46 <hawmps> &wx 12020

14:46 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 37.9F / 3.3C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; This Afternoon - Rain showers likely. Highs around 40. Temperature falling into the mid 30s. South winds around 10 mph...becoming west. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

14:46 <hawmps> &more

14:46 <Romulus> hawmps: mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

14:47 <hawmps> yuk

14:47 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany

14:47 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 41°F / 5°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.30in / 992hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 8:20 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Overcast. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:41 F. / 5 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:37 F. / 3 C.;

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16:14 <xcamel> hola

17:07 <xcamel> mighty quiet..

17:07 <CoderForLife> just damn

17:08 <CoderForLife> laundry room cabinets from Home Despot arrived in pieces via UPS - had to refuse the shipment

17:09 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

17:09 <MTughan> Sorry 'bout the cabinets.

17:09 <CoderForLife> hello Michael

17:09 <PovAddict> in pieces?

17:09 <CoderForLife> yeah, a bummer

17:09 <PovAddict> asploded cabinets

17:09 <MTughan> UPS has a record of breaking stuff enroute. I don't know, they just lost mine.

17:10 <CoderForLife> yeah, 91 pounds of wood chunks

17:10 <CoderForLife> inside an box that was wrapped with shipping tape, but wide open

17:11 <CoderForLife> so much for weekend installation plans

17:11 <CoderForLife> and now I have to wrestle Home Depot

17:24 * CoderForLife talks to Home Depot

17:34 <imsaguy> Ultimately, if Home Depot was smart enough to insure their stuff, they won't have to pay for it.

17:35 <CoderForLife> they're refunding me the first shipment and reordering the items

17:36 <CoderForLife> with better packing instructions to the warehouse

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17:40 <xcamel> good luck on that...

17:41 * CoderForLife hangs up the phone

17:41 <CoderForLife> yeah, rotsa ruck

17:41 <xcamel> hang up, or slam down?

17:42 <CoderForLife> lol

17:42 <CoderForLife> she was nice, same name as my wife

17:42 <CoderForLife> I bet they planned it that way

17:42 <xcamel> uh-huh

17:43 <CoderForLife> blunt my attack

17:44 <CoderForLife> Microsoft names head for online services group:  Dr. Qi Lu - looks like a great name for TXTing

17:45 * CoderForLife sighs

17:52 <xcamel> anything like Dr Qua Ludes?

17:53 <CoderForLife> heh

17:53 <CoderForLife> similar, but shorter

17:55 <xcamel> known to cause time distortions...

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17:59 <CoderForLife> brb

18:07 * xcamel yawns

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18:38 <wdsmia> I have heat again :)

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18:38 <PovAddict> power outage

18:38 <PovAddict> like 4th time today

18:38 <PovAddict> must...get...UPS...

18:39 <PovAddict> now let's see how much got corrupted

18:39 <PovAddict> I was compressing three files at a time

18:39 <PovAddict> I don't even know if any was already done by the time I lost power

18:39 <Soul_keeper> gotta start over ..

18:40 <PovAddict> yeah

18:40 <PovAddict> I was gzipping a 300MB HTML file (crazy isn't it? it's file listing of QMC@Home download directory)

18:40 <PovAddict> rzipping 375MB of highly-compressible logs

18:41 <PovAddict> and uncompressing another enormous rzip

18:41 <PovAddict> wtf

18:41 <PovAddict> I better didn't just lose data >:o

18:42 <PovAddict> hmm seems fine

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18:45 <zombie67> a while ago, the GPUGRID guys had the server setting such that a tack takes a GLU plus a CPU.  Have they changed it yet to be purely GPU yet?

18:45 <PovAddict> zombie67: no idea; but what client version are you using?

18:46 <PovAddict> the client scheduler had a crazy lot of changes in 6.4.3 (just out), I think workfetch too

18:46 <zombie67> lemme look

18:47 <zombie67> 6.3.21

18:47 <zombie67> should I upgrade?

18:47 <PovAddict> tricky question

18:47 <zombie67> where's TM?  he's usually up on the GPUGRID news

18:47 <zombie67> my host is XP64 if that matters

18:47 <PovAddict> 6.4 had lots of changes but they were done in such a hurry that they may have weird untested consequences

18:48 <zombie67> is that a "yes"?

18:48 <PovAddict> if you dare...

18:48 <PovAddict> I don't have a modern-enough GPU so I don't run any 6.3/6.4 myself

18:49 <zombie67> sure, I dare a lot.  ;)

18:50 <zombie67> 6.4.2 d/l now

18:52 <xcamel> 6.4.2 has been running here just fine..

18:53 <zombie67> did they fix the problem with deleting multiple tasks?

18:54 <zombie67> okay, a second Q

18:55 <zombie67> how does the resource share/% work when the project is non-cpu?

18:55 <xcamel> dunno... didn't try it..

18:55 <PovAddict> zombie67: ask all that in boinc_alpha

18:55 <zombie67> eh

18:56 <zombie67> too many of those guys are too cranky/critical

18:56 <PovAddict> almost everything that happens "when the project is non-cpu" was modified by DA quite recently without documenting anything

18:56 <PovAddict> I wonder if *he* has any idea of how resource share works now :P

18:56 <zombie67> the usual answer is "that's an older version"

18:56 <xcamel> I doubt it..

18:57 <imsaguy> many things happen with boinc without documentation ;)

18:57 <xcamel> even less happens **with** it.

18:57 <imsaguy> ...

18:58 <zombie67> I just want to know if I have to have a resource share that is 20% or 25% ot the total to ensure one GPU task always runs, of if even a "1" share will do the tick.

18:59 <zombie67> that example was with a quad + GPU

18:59 <PovAddict> oh, I think it will always try to keep the GPU and CPU busy

18:59 <PovAddict> that's the intention

18:59 <PovAddict> if implementation matches intention (= if it *works*) is anyone's guess

19:00 <zombie67> huh

19:01 <zombie67> which gets me back to the Q, does GPUGRID require a CPU too (still)?

19:02 <zombie67> because if so, there could be conflict

19:02 <zombie67> keeping the CPUs busy, based on resource share, may mean the GPUGRID task doesn't run.

19:05 <zombie67> i'll change the share to a 1, and see what happens.

19:05 <zombie67> will be hard to tell by daily credits, with the memory errors.

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19:49 <CoderForLife> glad you got your heat fixed, wdsmia

19:53 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:59 <xcamel> he did?

20:00 <xcamel> oh yeah... way back there..

20:04 <xcamel> Firefox users targeted by rare piece of malware

20:05 <xcamel> http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/04/Firefox_users_targeted_by_rare_piece_of_malware_1.html#commentForm

20:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/68svht> (at www.infoworld.com)

20:09 <PovAddict> wow

20:09 <PovAddict> reading

20:09 <PovAddict> "Users could avoid it by only downloading signed, verified software" bah

20:09 <PovAddict> most Firefox addons I have downloaded (from the official mozilla site) said they weren't digitally signed

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21:16 <xcamel> &wx 12074

21:16 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 31.0F / -0.6C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with isolated snow showers. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the (1 more message)

21:17 <xcamel> &more

21:17 <Romulus> xcamel: evening...then clearing. Lows around 16. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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21:37 <zombie67> google reader changed their font

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21:39 <zombie67> we need to get our (newer) laptop members to join QCN

21:44 <quail> 'noon all

21:44 <PovAddict> sleep ->

21:45 <quail> PovAddict: nn

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21:51 <zombie67> gn

21:55 <xcamel> laterz..

21:55 <zombie67> why does gmail (imap) go offline all the time?

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