IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-12-06

00:10 * efc missed the whole monitor thing

00:10 <efc> Guess i won't buy one :)

00:11 <Soul_keeper>   that would be alright if it was 2ms ...

00:11 <Romulus> <> (at

00:11 <Soul_keeper> and not 1300 bucks ...

00:11 <Soul_keeper> welp good night

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03:20 <CoderForLife> erp snick

03:20 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 20.8F / -6.2C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Becoming mostly cloudy. Evening lows around 15...then temperatures rising to around 20. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning... then snow showers likely in the (1 more message)

03:20 <efc> moo CFL

03:21 <CoderForLife> moo Mr. efc

03:21 <CoderForLife> &more

03:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: afternoon. Snow accumulation less than an inch. Highs in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 15 to 20 mph.;

03:21 <CoderForLife> may turn a little white here later

03:21 <efc> 32.4 here. All CPUs to full burn.

03:22 <CoderForLife> Winter is BOINC season

03:22 <efc> 5 Gflops total.

03:23 <CoderForLife> nice

03:24 <efc> probably one quad newfangled cpu can do that

03:25 <CoderForLife> your legacy cores thank you for caring enough to gove them a fine purpose

03:25 <CoderForLife> er give

03:26 <efc> Thought about an i7, not convinced yet

03:26 <CoderForLife> all things, in time

03:27 <efc> the 6 memory slots is nice, if they work

03:28 * CoderForLife checks the news, to see the status of the world

03:28 <efc> you don't want to do that

03:28 <CoderForLife> aaaiiiiieeee!!!!

03:29 <CoderForLife> I need a $400,000 bailout

03:30 <CoderForLife> that's all

03:30 <CoderForLife> this time

03:30 <efc> You absolutely can't have more money until tommorrow

03:30 <CoderForLife> awww

03:31 <CoderForLife> ok!

03:35 <CoderForLife> time to find some breakfast and pay some bills - brb

03:35 <efc> maybe i'll be able to get some land cheap, its quit going up at least

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03:49 <CoderForLife> b

03:50 <CoderForLife> I ate breakfast downstairs for a change

03:50 <KathrynM> howdy

03:50 <CoderForLife> but I brought the bills upstairs

03:50 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM =)

03:50 <KathrynM> paid my bills last week

03:51 <CoderForLife> Saturday @3:50am here

03:51 <KathrynM> finished my christmas shoppping today

03:51 <CoderForLife> I pay bills every week

03:51 <KathrynM> once a month I hike to the bank and pay mine

03:51 <CoderForLife> you finished your shoppping and it didn't affect you one bittt

03:51 <KathrynM> bah humbug

03:53 <CoderForLife> meh humbug

03:53 <KathrynM> o<|:-)

03:54 <CoderForLife> lol

03:54 <CoderForLife> cute

03:55 <KathrynM> don't know how to make the beard tho

03:55 <KathrynM> o<|:-)>

03:55 <CoderForLife> E

03:55 <KathrynM> o<|:-)E

03:55 <CoderForLife> heh

03:56 <KathrynM> o<|:-O))))))

03:56 <KathrynM> nah

03:56 <CoderForLife> Santa needs Weight Watchers

03:56 <KathrynM> :D

03:56 <CoderForLife> 7 chins

03:56 <KathrynM> o<|:-)D

03:57 <KathrynM> close

03:57 * CoderForLife fires up MS Money

04:03 <CoderForLife> nobody won the MegaMillions jackpot

04:04 <efc> I think the banks did

04:04 <CoderForLife> heh

04:04 <CoderForLife> they're playing MegaBillions

04:05 <CoderForLife> I looked at forming a bank holding company

04:08 <efc> citibank preferred stock hit a 25% yield at one point. That would have been sweet. but i think they'll quit paying.

04:08 <CoderForLife> problem was I started 2 days before the bailout application form was due - I was too busy to get it all done in time

04:09 <efc> You needed some debt. Too bad, you could have loaned me 300k and then I would have defaulted on it. No need to thank me.

04:11 <CoderForLife> that's about the size of my outstanding mortgage balance - I did that all on my own

04:12 <CoderForLife> looks like I need to do the Coinstar holiday bonus thing at the grocery store this morning

04:12 <Romulus> <> (at

04:12 <efc> I've seen some nice big hunting lodges + 1000ish acres for sale. You need some bad debt, let me know.

04:12 <CoderForLife> expires tomorrow

04:13 <efc> I could bring a girl home to that place! Yes this plan will work

04:13 <CoderForLife> be sure to use the right charackteriztiks

04:14 <efc> Ve must seleckt the vomans for der... zexual charackteriztiks ...

04:15 <CoderForLife> yes - that's the quote I was thinking of

04:16 * CoderForLife pays the cable bill

04:16 <CoderForLife> must maintain BOINC connectivity

04:17 <CoderForLife> hmm - cable cost sneaking upwards

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04:20 <CoderForLife> bye efc

04:24 * CoderForLife pays the gas and electric company

04:36 <CoderForLife> hmm - bill was a bit more than budget

04:44 <CoderForLife> gas usage up 59%, electric usage up 32%

04:44 <CoderForLife> over last year, same timeframe

04:45 <CoderForLife> must be that dang natural gas powered BOINC machine I installed

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08:13 <xcamel> 'lo

08:34 <CoderForLife> back from store - snowing

08:34 <CoderForLife> first accumulating snow of the season

08:34 <xcamel> purdy?

08:34 <CoderForLife> yes sir

08:35 <xcamel> just cold here

08:35 <xcamel> so far..

08:35 <CoderForLife> fortunately no traffic on an early Sat morning

08:35 <CoderForLife> used traction control on the car to climb hills

08:35 <xcamel> always helps

08:35 <CoderForLife> indeed

08:36 <CoderForLife> let's me go where others slide

08:36 <CoderForLife> or spin

08:36 <xcamel> or hit

08:37 <CoderForLife> been up since 3, and smelling all that food has made me very hungry - bbiab

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08:38 <xcamel> even 20F now

08:47 <xcamel> of interest in OH ...

08:47 <xcamel>

08:47 <Romulus> Title: HB450 (Armed Services 18-21 gun rights restoration) scheduled for third hearing & possible vote in Senate committee | Buckeye Firearms Association (at

09:02 <CoderForLife> b.a.d.

09:03 <CoderForLife> looking

09:06 <CoderForLife> interesting - thanks

09:10 <CoderForLife> need to feed the birdies - brb

09:30 * xcamel needs to get some birdie seed..

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09:38 <xcamel> 'lo Q

09:45 <CoderForLife> birdies are happy

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09:47 <CoderForLife> snowflakes are drifting down in large clumps - does that mean more or less turbulence aloft?

09:47 <xcamel> means it's about to stop..

09:47 <xcamel> warmer air sneaking in

09:47 <CoderForLife> hmm

09:48 <CoderForLife> yeah - looks like we might be betwixt some snow

09:48 <xcamel> you are..

09:49 <xcamel> "backside burst" going on...

09:49 <CoderForLife> sorta like my dad used to unleash on me?

09:49 <quail> meep meep

09:49 <quail> 'evening all

09:49 <CoderForLife> hello Dale

09:50 <quail> ay Don, whats been happening?

09:50 <xcamel> similar... but less painful.

09:50 <CoderForLife> heh

09:50 <CoderForLife> grocery shopping and snow have been happening

09:50 <xcamel> except my mother was the one with the battle weapons..

09:51 <CoderForLife> I was always threatened with a belt - there came a time when all the belts in the house disappeared

09:51 <xcamel> I just tell people I was born "without an ass"

09:51 <CoderForLife> they were eventually located in the back of my closet

09:52 <xcamel> wooden cooking spoons - extra large.

09:52 * quail had couple them snapped across my arse

09:53 <xcamel> bbiab...

09:53 <CoderForLife> did it do any good? =)

09:53 <CoderForLife> k

09:53 <quail> it not make me any worse off :-P

10:03 <quail> CoderForLife: this is what I am getting for xmas =>

10:03 <Romulus> <> (at

10:04 <CoderForLife> nice

10:05 <CoderForLife> I did this at the grocery store today

10:05 <Romulus> <> (at

10:06 <CoderForLife> counted $139.02 worth of change, and got an eCertificate

10:06 <CoderForLife> will also get an additional $10 eCert

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10:07 <quail> nice

10:07 <CoderForLife> loose change turned into real money

10:08 <quail> :-)

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11:24 <xcamel> damn it is cold out.

11:24 <xcamel> damp cold

11:25 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

11:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 22.1F / -5.5C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 17.0mph / 27.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Breezy. Scattered flurries through the day. High in the mid 30s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Colder. Low 5 to 10 (1 more message)

11:25 <wdsmia> &more

11:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: above. North wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Sunday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. Colder. High in the mid 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;

11:25 <xcamel> up to 26 here - dp is 23

11:34 <quail> &wx ypad

11:35 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 58°F / 14°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Clear. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Overcast. Low:60 F. / 16 C.;

11:47 <quail> summer is expected to be hotter than ever here

11:48 <quail> xcamel: so I might trade you weathers do the track

11:50 <xcamel> clue: global warming stopped in 1996...

11:56 <xcamel> finally getting feeling back in my chilly feet.

11:56 <quail> :-)

11:57 * quail can't wait to move north

11:58 * quail will be trying to do volinteer work at the local observitory

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12:42 <xcamel> still need to go off and do somw "stuff"

12:42 <xcamel> er some, even..

12:42 <CoderForLife> what's holding you back?

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12:50 <CoderForLife> apparently nothing

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13:19 <jcay> hello

13:25 <CoderForLife> hello jcay

13:26 <jcay> how are you tonight?

13:27 <CoderForLife> I'm fine, although it's about 1:30 in the afternoon - how is jcay?

13:28 <jcay> fine too :)) crunching a bit and studying about rosetta :)

13:29 <CoderForLife> both are praiseworthy activities

13:29 <jcay> thanks :)

13:30 <CoderForLife> brb

13:31 <jcay> are you involved into rosetta too?? i know it's possible to look at the molecules after it's done, but didn't quite get it ;/ i know there must be files sort of out.gz, once i found it, but now any more ;/

13:32 <jcay> not*

13:32 <jcay> okay, tyt

13:37 <CoderForLife> oops, gotta run, bbl

13:38 <jcay> sure

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14:40 <xcamel> back again

14:40 <efc> Moo xcamel

14:40 <xcamel> welcome, jcay

14:40 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

14:45 * efc looks for a Blu-ray player for Dad

14:46 <efc> they still seem to be bleeding-edge

14:51 <PovAddict> a friend messaged me saying he just woke up

14:51 <PovAddict> it's 6 pm

14:51 <PovAddict> he says it's a new record

14:52 <efc> He's got me beat..

14:53 <PovAddict> went to sleep 11am

14:54 <xcamel> I still need to get one..

14:54 <xcamel> I have a crapload of dvd's, but no br yet.

14:55 <efc> dad got a 50" plasma tv on black Friday

14:55 <efc> No super duper inputs yet, other than my computer, which does look quite good, but not really practical

14:56 <efc> something like 1360x768

14:56 <MTughan> That's an odd resolution...

14:56 <MTughan> I would've expected 1920x1080.

14:57 <efc> its a 720 line TV, so whatever width that comes out to

14:59 <efc> With the money we throw at these things, we could just buy old school projectors and film prints, and have all the "def" available..

15:00 <MTughan> That'd be 1280x720.

15:00 <MTughan> lol

15:01 <jcay> xcamel, heya

15:02 <efc> ze manual says 1360x768.. it looks good

15:03 <efc> over HDMI

15:04 <xcamel> HDMI blocks any recording though

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15:45 <PovAddict> &math convert 7303854080 bytes to GB

15:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: 7.30385408

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16:08 <sethy> ohi guise

16:08 <sethy> long time no see

16:09 <sethy> &hi

16:09 <Romulus> sethy: Are you daft?

16:09 <sethy> very :D

16:09 <sethy> PovAddict _o/

16:09 * PovAddict can confirm that

16:09 <PovAddict> _o/

16:13 <sethy> so nobody is active...

16:14 <sethy> where are the canadians when you need them

16:15 <sethy> cos i doupt &weather canada will work

16:15 <sethy> doubt*

16:15 <PovAddict> you'd need a canadian city

16:16 * PovAddict grabs sethy's hand and pokes MTughan with it

16:16 <sethy> some guy is like, ohay its -35C here... and i'm like... yeah which province? He just says north of the 60...

16:16 <sethy> HELP ME OUT MTughan !!!

16:16 <PovAddict> lol

16:16 <PovAddict> &grab sethy

16:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

16:16 <sethy> !

16:17 <MTughan> Wha...

16:17 <PovAddict> I sense confusion in you MTughan

16:17 <MTughan> I just see two flashes of my name as I switch back to my IRC client.

16:17 <MTughan> &weather Alert, Nunavut

16:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: -27°F / -33°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM MST; Scattered Clouds. High:-21 F. / -29 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-23 F. / -31 C.; Clear. High:-14 F. / -26 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-18 F. / -28 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-14 F. / -26 C.; Partly (1 more message)

16:17 <PovAddict> !

16:18 <sethy> &more MTughan

16:18 <Romulus> sethy: Cloudy. Low:-18 F. / -28 C.;

16:19 <sethy> also where can i find the chat room stats, like nickstats, i forgot

16:19 <MTughan>,+Nunavut&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=24.870109,79.101563&ie=UTF8&ll=77.989049,-60.820312&spn=17.126268,158.203125&z=3&iwloc=addr

16:19 <Romulus> <> (at

16:19 <sethy> nvm found it

16:20 <sethy> my number of lines have gone down ;_;

16:20 <sethy> inactivity 73 days

16:21 <MTughan> I'm off to dinner...

16:22 <sethy> ok taek caer

16:25 <sethy>

16:25 <Romulus> Title: Comics - (at

16:32 <efc> "Got Gulf War Syndrome? Get $10 off all machine gun rentals!"

16:33 <PovAddict> stupid homonyms

16:33 <Romulus> Title: Comics - (at

16:37 <efc> Biological warfare

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16:56 * KathrynM shivers

16:56 <KathrynM> I gotta remember to turn the heat on before bed

16:56 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

16:56 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 19°F / -7°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:42 F. / 6 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:37 F. / 3 C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 (1 more message)

16:56 <efc> Want some spare p3-600s instead?

16:56 <KathrynM> sounds good to me

16:56 <KathrynM> my two laptops aren't helping much

16:58 <efc> Nothing like an Intel Inside sticker on your electric blanket

16:58 <KathrynM> now that would work.  a blanket that crunches too

16:59 <efc> little bit lumpy

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17:12 <xcamel> back again

17:12 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

17:20 <efc> I need some more vertical pixels.. I think about 2500 would do

17:21 <MTughan> I think the biggest screen size you can get now is 2560x1600...

17:21 <efc> The higher end 24"s will rotate and come close

17:22 <MTughan> Fair enough. 1600x2560.

17:22 <efc> I try to work on stuff like this..

17:22 <Romulus> <> (at

17:22 <efc> thats not even getting the whole score on the screen at once and not legible either

17:23 <MTughan> That's a big window...

17:23 <xcamel> indeed

17:24 <efc> only a concert band score, orchestra is bigger

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17:25 <efc> It might be unrealistic to have the whole thing big enough for editing all at once (to edit you have to be able to point very precisely) but maybe it could be legible at once

17:25 <xcamel> you need my 43" plasma

17:26 <xcamel> but you can't have it.

17:26 <MTughan> How's the resolution?

17:26 <xcamel> great... as a TV

17:27 <MTughan> 1080p?

17:27 <xcamel> yup

17:27 <MTughan> So 1920x1080. Still doesn't beat 2560x1600.

17:27 <efc> I guess I really need higher DPI more than a bigger screen.. On paper, a score is about 18" high and reasonable to read and write

17:34 <efc> Yep 2560x1600 is the highest at Newegg.. Of course you can start stacking them up..

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17:36 <efc> Some of those require dual-link connections

17:37 <efc> LED backlighting, intersting

17:43 <MTughan> Most of the monitors in that resolution range will require dual-link DVI.

17:44 <MTughan> If not all.

17:50 <efc> according to wikip, 2560x1600 is the max for dual link DVI, at least at 60hz

17:53 <efc> DisplayPort doesn't really up it that much

17:58 <MTughan> Not many uses for that big a res. On a 24" screen, that equates to 126 pixels per inch, which is one of the higher ratios in screens.

17:58 <MTughan> A 1920x1200 15" laptop monitor has 147 pixels/inch, the highest I've seen.

17:58 <CoderForLife> baack

17:58 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

17:59 <CoderForLife> hey Michael

17:59 <CoderForLife> Stephen and I just finished the outside lights, except the big wreath

18:00 <CoderForLife> we didn't want to set up the ladder in the snow and climb up 2 stories

18:01 <CoderForLife> we're basicalyy gutless

18:01 <CoderForLife> basically

18:02 <CoderForLife> I have Sibelius, efc

18:06 <xcamel> all the purdy lights..

18:06 <CoderForLife> yup - tis the season

18:10 <sethy> ohi CoderForLife

18:10 <CoderForLife> hey sethy =)

18:10 <sethy> :D

18:10 <sethy> Hows the landslide replacement makeshift self defence moat thing coming along?

18:10 <CoderForLife> didn't notice you in the list up there => long time no irc

18:10 <CoderForLife> all done

18:10 <sethy> i knoes :D

18:11 <CoderForLife> lemme send you some pic links

18:11 <sethy> ooo how long it been done? and thanks

18:11 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: frustrating that the power outage kinda ruined your time lapse video

18:11 <PovAddict> missing like a whole day

18:12 <efc> CFL: I think I will run out of brains before I run out of screen space

18:12 <xcamel>

18:12 <CoderForLife> wall was built in September with the new patio on top, fence added in October, landscaping finished in November

18:12 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:12 <CoderForLife> yeah Pov - couldn't be helped

18:12 <sethy> needs batteries

18:14 <xcamel> snow added in december for effect

18:15 <PovAddict> Google Maps breaks impressively in Konqueror...

18:17 <xcamel> OK... this is cool...

18:17 <xcamel> global air traffic simulation...

18:17 <xcamel>

18:17 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - AirTraffic Worldwide (at

18:22 <efc> xcamel: the pain, the pain, my babies!

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18:24 <xcamel> that junkyard covers over 100 acres

18:24 <xcamel> you can see it on google earth

18:34 <CoderForLife> pretty amazing

18:35 <xcamel> did you find the GE link?

18:36 <CoderForLife> yup

18:36 <CoderForLife> looked at Brant Trail

18:37 <CoderForLife> it's jaw-dropping

18:37 <xcamel> I have hiked in that area years ago... never saw that mess though...

18:37 <CoderForLife> no rhyme-or-reason, just dumped wherever

18:38 <CoderForLife> found a pic of a '75 Mercury Comet like I drove

18:39 <xcamel> just about a mile or two north of there, on the old rail line trail

18:40 <xcamel> hmm.. we broke a 72 merc cougar in half on a hump-back rail bridge once..

18:41 <CoderForLife> that reservoir looks OK

18:42 <CoderForLife> guess there's 2

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18:49 <CoderForLife> off for the evening

18:49 <CoderForLife> gn folks

18:51 <MTughan> Night CFL.

18:51 <CoderForLife> gn MTughan

18:54 <xcamel> I can feel your storm creeping in on little snowman feet...

18:56 <xcamel> bbl..

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20:23 <Soul_keeper> ok, who here bought me a xmas present ?

20:29 * efc silently slips out the back door

20:34 <efc> Wait, maybe you would like a few billion dollars in bad debt

21:02 <Soul_keeper> nah i need a bailout :)

21:03 <efc> Ok, you can have 35 billion $$, but you can't have anymore until tommorrow, and thats final

21:04 <Soul_keeper> :)

21:04 <Soul_keeper> but i need 70B  and i'm too big to fail ...

21:04 <efc> Darnit, you need more already? Ok, here's 25 billion, but we warned, this is your 5th to last warning

21:05 <Soul_keeper> i swear i'll repay it, here's some stocks ...  you'll get your money back honest

21:06 * PovAddict looks at his $200 and feels poor

21:06 <PovAddict> otoh, I currently have quite low expenses

21:06 <efc> You need more debt. Solvency is Un-American. Un-South-American even.

21:06 <PovAddict> lol

21:07 <PovAddict> I think I have no debt

21:07 <PovAddict> unless you ask my sister

21:07 <PovAddict> then she will tell you I owe her a birthday present

21:08 <Soul_keeper> how old is your sister ?

21:08 <PovAddict> 15

21:08 <Soul_keeper> got a 25yr old sister ?

21:08 <PovAddict> ...

21:08 * efc shoots Soul_Keeper and re-asks the question

21:08 <PovAddict> no

21:09 <Soul_keeper> lol

21:09 <Soul_keeper> i'm the best xmas present a girl could get ...

21:09 <PovAddict> yeaa right

21:09 <PovAddict> &grab Soul_keeper

21:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

21:15 <efc> So close, and yet so far

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22:13 <PovAddict> 6.4.4 out soon

22:14 <MTughan> Judging from SVN commits?

23:00 * efc tries to D/L POVRay again

23:02 <efc> Looks like about an hour to convert this stack of .wavs.. good excuse to buy a new machine!

23:04 <efc> make that several hours

23:06 <efc> CDex isn't multithreaded unfortunately

23:18 <efc> Would be cool if somehow my machine could send out these intensive tasks to other machines on the farm here..

23:24 <PovAddict> I wrote a Python script to import one of the Einstein@Home stats exports into a MySQL database

23:24 <PovAddict> took quite a while

23:24 <PovAddict> 215525 users

23:24 <PovAddict> adding up to 9772218206 credit

23:27 <efc> I guess thats what beowulf was for, but probably not easy to use for my once-every-two-years taksts

23:27 <MTughan> Depending on when that data was collected, up to 200K of that could be mind. :P

23:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: I can get what % of the total credit is yours

23:28 <PovAddict> found you

23:28 <PovAddict> 0.002208%

23:28 <MTughan> &math 9772218206 * 0.00002208

23:28 <Romulus> MTughan: 215770.577988

23:29 <MTughan> :o Fairly recent...

23:29 <PovAddict> your credits show as 215862.91389

23:29 <PovAddict> (I rounded the percentage)

23:29 <MTughan> I have 216,082.22 right now. Did you get these yesterday?

23:29 <PovAddict> probably

23:30 <PovAddict> I download them as soon as they update

23:30 * efc spends 2 months uploading these files so Pov can compress them with his database-obliterating machine

23:32 <efc> Ah, I could map the drives and have another machine compress them!

23:32 <PovAddict> takes me 85.19 seconds to import one of these into MySQL

23:33 <PovAddict> bottleneck is probably XML parsing and misc Python overhead

23:33 <PovAddict> clearly, it won't scale to import the 6GB of XML I have

23:34 <MTughan> How much was the E@H data?

23:34 <PovAddict> 63MB uncompressed

23:34 <MTughan> Ouch...

23:34 <PovAddict> I have a month or two of files like it

23:34 <PovAddict> updated twice a day

23:34 <MTughan> &math [math convert 6 GiB to MB] / 63

23:34 <Romulus> MTughan: 102.261126095

23:34 <PovAddict> plus the team files

23:35 <MTughan> &math convert [math [math convert 6 GiB to MB] / 63 * 85.19] seconds to hours

23:35 <Romulus> MTughan: 2.41989592557

23:35 <MTughan> Two and a half hours using linear scaling...

23:36 <PovAddict> I need to figure out an efficient database layout for this kind of historical data

23:36 <PovAddict> users don't change name/country every day

23:36 <PovAddict> lots of users don't change any info for long periods of time (no active crunching on the project, no credit changes)

23:37 <PovAddict> yet *if* the country changes for a user, I want to keep that record in the DB

23:39 <PovAddict> or teams

23:39 <PovAddict> if I make a table of "team changes" (user, new team, timestamp), I'm not sure if I can efficiently get the team from a user ID and a timestamp (what team was he in back in day X?)

23:39 <PovAddict> hmm ranges would work

23:40 <PovAddict> userid, team, from timestamp X to Y

23:40 <PovAddict> select teamid from team_history where userid=42 and start_time > 12345678 and end_time < 12345678;

23:41 <efc> heh, BOINCView is mad that one machine's production just dropped off a cliff

23:41 <PovAddict> heh

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23:42 <MTughan> efc: I'd be mad too if it was something like this machine. :P

23:42 <Romulus> <> (at

23:42 <MTughan> Take a look at the RAC.

23:43 <efc> Saaa-weet

23:43 <MTughan> It was posted on the forums that it's a Dell server. 4x6-core Dunnington procs.

23:44 <efc> Wonder which company's policies he's violating hehe

23:44 <MTughan>

23:44 <Romulus> <> (at

23:45 <MTughan> I think Pov posted that link in here a couple days ago.

23:46 <efc> I kinda doubt its cost effective for that RAC though

23:47 <MTughan> Dunno. Damn nice machine though.

23:48 <PovAddict> the most cost effective machines are those where you aren't paying for the electricity

23:48 <PovAddict> like, say, MTughan's

23:48 <MTughan> :D

23:48 <PovAddict> or me

23:49 <MTughan> About to get that much more cost effective... I'll probably overtake Pov by that point. :P

23:49 <efc> We have a couple of multi KW chomping giant servers at work

23:49 <efc> And they run CVS and serve files.

23:49 <PovAddict> my mom once wanted to make me pay part of the electricity bill

23:50 <MTughan> I believe Pov is averaging about 2500 credits/day, I'm doing ~4000.

23:51 <efc> dammit, if they kill off the hot women in this movie too early, I'm going to be hacked off

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23:51 <MTughan> lol

23:52 <efc> lower rent JLH but still nie

23:52 <efc> nice

23:55 <efc> 41 kb of cache on that thing? heh

23:55 <MTughan> On what?

23:56 <efc> the link you sent

23:56 <MTughan> &math 16 * 4

23:56 <Romulus> MTughan: 64

23:56 <MTughan> Should be that much...

23:56 <MTughan> Hmm, BOINC seems to read it wrong.

23:57 <PovAddict> im off

23:57 <MTughan> Seeya Pov.

23:57 <efc> POV downloaded.. I'll have something great for you in the morning

23:58 <MTughan> Yeow... Intel's price for one of those CPUs is $2729USD. And that machine has four of 'em.

23:58 <MTughan> PovAddict: 6.4.4 released if you're interested.

23:58 <efc> Yeah, those big machines just aren't cost effective that I can see

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