IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-12-08

00:02 <efc> moo quail

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00:07 <quail> how are you today efc ?

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00:07 <quail> hi CoderForLife

00:07 <PovAddict> why does CFL have ops?

00:07 <PovAddict> why am I still up?

00:07 <CoderForLife> hey there

00:08 <CoderForLife> why ask why

00:08 <MTughan> For some reason, he's on the ACCESS list as auto-op.

00:08 <PovAddict> blame wdsmia

00:08 <CoderForLife> I have connections

00:09 <quail> hehe

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00:09 <CoderForLife> better?

00:09 <Romulus> better is those where the image.jpg is a directory with a index.html spewing all kinds of nasty stuff your way :), CoderForLife

00:10 <CoderForLife> Rommie needs to show me some respect

00:12 <CoderForLife> plink - if that's possible

00:12 <PovAddict> 3 am is the best time to be writing a shell script

00:12 <PovAddict> ...or not

00:13 <PovAddict> it's Pi time

00:14 <CoderForLife> heh

00:15 <CoderForLife> I need to take some pain killers, or at least some pain dullers - bbiaf

00:15 <PovAddict> I need to... sleep

00:16 * PovAddict checks email instead

00:16 <PovAddict> maybe I should talk to a doctor about this addiction

00:18 <quail> CoderForLife: is the evil underground cracker, and that why he got auto-op :-P

00:19 <quail> PovAddict: what have you got an addiction too?

00:19 <MTughan> Computers. :P

00:20 <quail> oh that all, that addiction can be curered with a bucket of water :-P

00:20 <MTughan> Expensive fix, isn't it?

00:21 <quail> thats if you want to replace the equipment afterwards :-P

00:21 <MTughan> But no more BOINC. :P

00:22 <CoderForLife> b

00:22 <PovAddict> that would be the point, sort of

00:24 <CoderForLife> my theory is that yesterday morning I was going downstairs, when suddenly my right knee buckled/"kicked out" on me, and I wrenched the muscle in my inner left thigh

00:24 <CoderForLife> it's very weak, and hurts a bit

00:25 * CoderForLife takes Tylenol, and eats some leftover roast beef

00:26 <CoderForLife> maybe I should talk to a doctor about Pov's addiction

00:26 <efc> sorry quail, i'm good

00:26 <CoderForLife> moo

00:27 <PovAddict> maybe i could start drinking... replace an addiction with another

00:28 <CoderForLife> replace?  you'll never be able to quit Coding

00:29 <PovAddict> oh so it has no cure

00:29 * CoderForLife <<<<

00:29 <PovAddict> i c

00:30 <quail> efc: :-)

00:31 <CoderForLife> it gives life, it's a way of life, and it's a prison sentence

00:33 <PovAddict> replaces social life, creates insane sleep patterns, causes dry eyes (at least does for me)

00:34 <CoderForLife> what is this thing "social life"?  I don't understand

00:36 <CoderForLife> you must be refering to #boinc

00:36 <PovAddict> reI'll be 18 in a few days... may not make any party...

00:37 <PovAddict> almost noone to invite to it, so...

00:38 <CoderForLife> should I be checking my mailbox?

00:39 <PovAddict> exactly... most of my friends are of quite varied nationalities and ages

00:40 <PovAddict> very few left IRL

00:43 * CoderForLife wears his Friend of Pov button proudly

00:46 <PovAddict> very few left IRL

00:46 <PovAddict> argh

00:46 <PovAddict> very few left IRL

00:46 <PovAddict> this kb has a problem

00:46 <PovAddict> with up key

00:50 <CoderForLife> I'm down with that

00:50 <PovAddict> meh

00:51 <PovAddict> gonna crawl into bed

00:51 <CoderForLife> tc cya

00:51 <CoderForLife> I'm about to try sleeping again

00:52 <PovAddict> sheesh 4 am

00:53 <CoderForLife> try counting sheep, not sheesh

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04:54 <CoderForLife> brb  Second Breakfast

04:55 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 24.9F / -3.9C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of sleet...freezing rain and snow this morning...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy (1 more message)

04:55 <CoderForLife> &more

04:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Rain. Highs in the lower 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

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04:59 <CoderForLife> brb

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05:08 <CoderForLife> b

05:20 <quail> 'evening all

05:21 <CoderForLife> hello quail

05:22 <quail> ay Don, how are you?

05:22 <CoderForLife> all systems check out well enough for weekday operations, I suppose - how are you?

05:23 <quail> not bad thanks

05:23 <quail> what have you been up to for the weekend?

05:27 <CoderForLife> no much - more Christmas decorating and cleanup, getting the house ready for holiday entertaining

05:27 <CoderForLife> worrying about money

05:28 <quail> ah

05:28 <quail> when you start holidays?

05:31 <CoderForLife> I'm looking to be off from w@#% hopefully starting the 19th, and thinking about not going back until the 5th.

05:43 <CoderForLife> running late getting ready for w@#%

05:47 <xcamel> ditto..

05:47 <ELGono> moo dudes

05:48 <ELGono> just finished my orderings ;)

05:48 <ELGono> soldering time is coming

05:48 <ELGono> result will be a complete new version of preamp, without using feedback

05:50 <ELGono> complete dual mono as well (dual power supply, dual transformers too)

06:03 <quail> ELGono: nice

06:25 <CoderForLife> off to the w@#% place

06:25 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:30 <hawmps> lol - already there..

06:34 <hawmps> 5°F this morning

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06:50 <hawmps> ooh.. windchill -11°F

06:51 <KathrynM> brrrrrrrrrrr

06:51 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

06:51 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Clear. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Clear. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:39 F. / 4 C.;

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07:28 <hawmps> it gets colder as the sun comes up..

07:28 <hawmps> down to 4F

07:43 <MTughan> KathrynM: "Some random alpha build of BOINC"? :P

07:44 <KathrynM> lol

07:45 <KathrynM> I couldn't remember off the top of my head which one

07:45 <MTughan> I was just reading it over, and it sounded funny.

07:46 <KathrynM> :)

07:52 <KathrynM> did anyone see the "terms of use" for BOINC alpha?

07:52 <KathrynM> Blah.

07:52 <KathrynM> You need to accept these terms in order to run this project.

07:52 <KathrynM> Blah.

07:52 <KathrynM> I just snorted tea up my nose.

07:52 <MTughan> lol

07:53 <MTughan> I have an exam to write in just over an hour... I need to get some breakfast before then. Seeya Kathy.

07:53 <KathrynM> good luck

08:09 <ELGono> lol K

08:10 <ELGono> good luck MT

08:21 <MTughan> Heh, thanks ELGono.

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08:27 <MTughan> 'lo wdsmia_w

08:27 <MTughan> Maybe you should turn off auto-op?

08:27 <wdsmia_w> mornin

08:27 <wdsmia_w> why?

08:28 <MTughan> So you don't have to keep deopping yourself.

08:28 <wdsmia_w> brb coffee

08:32 <hawmps> indeed

08:37 <ELGono> MTughan : have a test too in an hour

08:37 <ELGono> measurements and calirations of projektors ...

08:37 <MTughan> That seems better than mine... Linear algebra.

08:38 <ELGono> should be easy, as i'm in that matter since 10 years being VJ

08:39 <ELGono> oh lin algebra ;)

08:39 <MTughan> Yeah, matrices and all.

08:39 <ELGono> yep, had a test on that 2 weeks ago

08:40 <ELGono> was okay, bit less time

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08:42 <MTughan> All right, I should be off. See you guys in a couple hours.

08:44 <ELGono> good luck

08:49 <ELGono> well, off for my test, too

08:49 <ELGono> laterz

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09:41 <quail> anyone here play WoW?

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10:37 <MTughan> All right, someone please get me out of here... -20C/-4F.

10:38 <MTughan> With the window closed and both laptops running, I'm still just comfortable.

10:39 <PovAddict> would you like 50C more than you have now?

10:39 <PovAddict> 30C *inside*

10:39 <PovAddict> &wx eze

10:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 91°F / 33°C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:95 F. / 35 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Scattered (1 more message)

10:39 <MTughan> Talk about extremes...

10:39 <PovAddict> ^ that

10:39 <MTughan> Use Fahrenheit for the comparison. 95 degrees difference. :D

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10:41 <MTughan> 'lo DerMeister

10:47 <DerMeister> hi MTughan

10:51 <MTughan> Pov and I were discussing temperature differences... 53C/95F difference between our two places. :P

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11:12 <hawmps> spork >>

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11:14 <joapuipe> hello

11:15 <joapuipe> has anyone installed Boinc in Gentoo?

11:16 <MTughan> Any problems should at least be similar to other Linux distros. What's going on?

11:17 <joapuipe> I think that is a problem related with this distribution, because I get some errors on the installation.

11:17 <MTughan> Well, I could maybe still help.

11:18 <joapuipe> Here's the error message...

11:18 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - Error emerging Boinc (at

11:19 <MTughan> You're trying to build from source?

11:19 <MTughan> Or is that from the package manager?

11:19 <joapuipe> No that's from package manager

11:20 <joapuipe> Portage

11:20 <MTughan> Would you mind posting the log at /var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/boinc-6.2.15/temp/build.log?

11:20 <joapuipe> But it builds the source

11:20 <joapuipe> ok

11:20 <joapuipe> wait a second...

11:21 <MTughan> You're right this is a distro specific error, but it might still be something easily fixable.

11:22 <DerMeister> joapuipe: you get this error *only* when trying to build boinc?

11:22 <MTughan> He's trying to install from Portage, the package manager.

11:22 <joapuipe> yes

11:23 <joapuipe> I've installed Boinc from the script available on the official webpage and it runs, so, the problem is in the installation process...

11:23 <MTughan> I don't suppose you need root access?

11:24 <joapuipe> :) I'm logged as root :P

11:24 <MTughan> All right, just checking... :P

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11:27 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm not sure. I did a manual installation on Fedora, so I could probably walk you through a manual installation, but I don't know what's going on with the packages. Did you find that log file I posted?

11:29 <joapuipe> wait a second, please... I have some troubles to paste it to xD

11:29 <MTughan> Heh.

11:33 <joapuipe> Here's the log: (It's long!)

11:33 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - Boinc Error log (at

11:33 <MTughan> Do you have GCC installed?

11:33 <joapuipe> Jejeje

11:33 <joapuipe> of course

11:34 <joapuipe> :P

11:34 <DerMeister> distcc: No such file or directory

11:34 <MTughan> "configure:3243: error: C compiler cannot create executables"

11:34 <DerMeister> you should install distcc or disable it ;)

11:34 <joapuipe> mmm...

11:34 <joapuipe> LoL!

11:34 <MTughan> "i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=athlon-xp -pipe -02 -fomit-frame-pointer  -Wl,-O1 conftest.c  >&5" "distcc: No such file or directory"

11:35 <joapuipe> I removed distcc yesterday and I didn't removed it from compiling options!

11:35 <MTughan> That could either be a distcc bug, distcc not being found, or a bad link.

11:35 <MTughan> Ah... :P

11:35 <joapuipe> xD

11:35 <joapuipe> Oh... what a stupid mistake!

11:36 <MTughan> Glad to help.

11:38 <joapuipe> mmm... It doesn't work yet...

11:38 <MTughan> Ah, so that's what distcc is... I'd heard of the name before, but never actually encountered it.

11:38 <joapuipe> Probably I must "clean" some things before...

11:39 <MTughan> Probably a good idea.

11:39 <joapuipe> thank you very much :)

11:44 <joapuipe> I must leave. Good by!

11:44 <joapuipe> *bye

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11:57 <MTughan> Holy crap... Nvidia seems to be introducing a GTX 295 soon. If I'm reading this right, it's two GTX 260 chips on a single board... O_O

11:58 <MTughan> I'm scared to know the power consumption on that thing, as the GTX 260 alone has a TDP of 186W...

12:00 <DerMeister> 186W? You could easily power two or three quite performant CPUs with that...

12:00 <PovAddict> yeah

12:00 <PovAddict> I'm skeptical about GPUs really giving good performance per watt

12:01 <MTughan> IIRC, the 280 has a TDP of ~240W.

12:01 <PovAddict> compared to good CPUs

12:01 <MTughan> 236W according to Wikipedia.

12:01 <MTughan> I can't wait until BOINC comes to the ATI cards, because they have a lot more shaders, so more parallel processing.

12:01 <DerMeister> I think they still out-perfom CPUs at special tasks that really need what GPUs provide: massive parallelism.

12:03 <MTughan> GTX 280 has 240 shaders for 236W, 260 has 192/216 for 182W. The HD4850 and 4870 each have 800 shader units, although I'm not sure what their TDP is ATM.

12:03 <PovAddict> my PC heats enough as it is

12:04 <PovAddict> my sister's is kinda worse

12:04 <PovAddict> (Pentium 4)

12:04 <MTughan> AFAICT, the 4870 is 160W TDP.

12:04 <PovAddict> but I'm worried about the hard disk temperature on that machine

12:04 <PovAddict> I should buy a new disk and copy everything

12:05 <PovAddict> if your CPU gets damaged for the heat, you curse for the lost money and get a new one

12:05 <PovAddict> if your hard disk gets damaged for the heat, congrats, you just lost all your data

12:06 <PovAddict> 31.5C inside :(

12:07 <MTughan> -18/0F here now...

12:13 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

12:13 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 29.6F / -1.3C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of sleet or patchy freezing drizzle in the morning...then a chance of rain or drizzle in the afternoon. High in the upper 30s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)

12:13 <wdsmia_w> &more

12:13 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: precipitation 40 percent.; Tonight - Rain in the evening...then snow and freezing rain after midnight. Blowing snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. A light glazing expected. Low in the mid 20s. East wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the north 10 to 20 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Snow in the morning...then snow likely in the (1 more message)

12:13 <wdsmia_w> &more

12:13 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: afternoon. Blowing snow through the day. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Total snow accumulation 4 to 5 inches. High in the mid 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. North wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Polk County in effect until 6:00 PM CST on December 09, 2008;

12:16 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news December 8, 2008

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13:01 <PovAddict> it's cloudy! \o/

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13:11 <hawmps> still hasn't gotten out of the teens here.

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13:15 <MTughan> Yeow, that's a big capacitor... 200µF @ 50V.

13:15 <MTughan> Oops... 2200µF @ 50V.

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14:11 <ELGono> hehe you want 10 of 4700uF ?

14:12 <PovAddict> wonder how big a 1F capacitor would be :P

14:12 <ELGono> just ordered some 120.000 uF this morning ....

14:12 <MTughan>

14:12 <Romulus> <> (at

14:13 <PovAddict> hm not as big as I expected

14:13 <ELGono> 4700's and 2200's and some foils

14:13 <MTughan> Hmm... Apparently the PowerPC application emulation is an optional installation in OS X 10.6.

14:13 <MTughan> PovAddict: That's a 5.5V capacitor.

14:13 <ELGono> well MT ... it's just 5V rated

14:13 <PovAddict> MTughan: well, 10.6 did want to make the system smaller :)

14:13 <MTughan> Like Windows 7? Slim is in? xD

14:14 <ELGono> my fostex am has 4 beercan like caps with 20.000uF @ 90V

14:14 <MTughan> Is that 20,000 or 20?

14:14 <ELGono> 20000

14:15 <MTughan> Nice... These 2200's are in an old sound system I have.

14:15 <PovAddict> O_O

14:15 <Romulus> <> (at

14:15 <PovAddict> 5000µF for 100V

14:15 <PovAddict> enormous thing

14:16 <MTughan> What, at least 12cm high? That's ~5".

14:16 <MTughan> Actually, probably closer to 15cm/6".

14:17 <PovAddict> wow, femtofarads

14:21 <ELGono> yea 12-16cm

14:22 <ELGono> how your math exam worked?

14:22 <MTughan> Pretty good from what I can tell.

14:22 <ELGono> hehe hope the corrector likes it

14:23 <ELGono> just working on my debriefing of my exam today

14:24 <ELGono> projector calibration procedures

14:24 <ELGono> preparation and practical today was rated 1.0 ;)

14:25 <MTughan> I'm still inching ever closer to PovAddict in stats... xD

14:25 <PovAddict> stfu

14:25 <PovAddict> <.<

14:25 <PovAddict> >.>

14:29 <ELGono>

14:29 <Romulus> <> (at

14:29 <ELGono> i must correct: only 2 caps

14:30 <MTughan> What is it?

14:30 <Romulus> hmm... it is an OK movie, MTughan

14:30 <MTughan> That's actually quite a good algorithm in there...

14:30 <ELGono> thats a fostex power amplifier

14:31 <ELGono> good analog oldschool work

14:31 <ELGono> works with high idle current neat classA

14:31 <ELGono> near

14:32 <ELGono> and the two caps rated 20.000uF @100V

14:32 <ELGono> driven with 92V

14:32 <MTughan> Nice...

14:32 <PovAddict> looks dusty

14:32 <ELGono> i melted one a screwdriver with 80.000uF @ 40V

14:34 <MTughan> My physics teacher created quite the spark and two dimples in a penny with a capacitor and a AA battery last year. I don't know what that was rated at.

14:35 <hawmps> looks like a rockford-fosgate power amp

14:36 <ELGono> well jay, it's a funny story with that fostex

14:37 <ELGono> frank bought it from ebay but couldn't find any documentation about it

14:37 <hawmps> not as funny as the capacitors they used to build here in Schenectady..

14:37 <hawmps> they were charged and used to explode full sized power poles

14:37 <ELGono> well so we called fostex ... they told us, there a no fostex amps, but they wanted to take a look at it...

14:38 <hawmps> might even be a Krell

14:38 <ELGono> so we got in contact with fostex in japan

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14:40 <ELGono> and after a week a so i got a phonecall from japan and they told me, some old guys from the techniqe development section remember there was once a Fostex Power Amp "Laboratory Series"

14:40 <ELGono> 5 pieces were build back then

14:40 <MTughan> Wow...

14:40 <hawmps> that would make it mighty rare

14:40 <ELGono> and they were really happy, that it found its way to germany and is still sounding nice

14:41 <ELGono> welll actually i had my hands on it.. replace some old caps, some silver wires and rejust idle currents

14:42 <ELGono> we measured more than 800W into 2 ohm

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14:44 <ELGono> really nice work... lots of wires and handwork and nice design with floating working points.... works at low volume classA

14:44 <ELGono> i should make some new pictures ... less dusty :)

14:45 <ELGono> but for the moment i just counting hours of parts i ordered this morning for new preamp ... will work without feedback

14:47 <ELGono> and i couldn't resist and ordered 2 mundorf silver oil caps

14:47 <PovAddict> where is the amp now?

14:48 <ELGono> the only capicator in my whole D/A converter / preamp / poweramp line

14:48 <ELGono> just stand next to me pov

14:48 <PovAddict> quite a rare piece :)

14:48 <MTughan> I have a can of compressed air. :D

14:48 <ELGono> in the soldering corner ;)

14:49 <PovAddict> I could use that too MTughan

14:49 <ELGono> hehe i tell ya, it's no voodoo in caps

14:50 <ELGono> that one actually is for preamp safety and power amp as well

15:04 <Tank_Master> did I hear someone say power amp?

15:06 <ELGono> hehehe

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15:07 <ELGono> if you ask me, i'm doing fine 20-80W

15:07 <ELGono> +with

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15:09 <ELGono> the fostex is just a guest for restauration

15:10 <MTughan> restoration?

15:17 <hawmps> you want to see a thing of beauty, look inside a Krell amp.

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15:20 <MTughan> That's sad...

15:21 <MTughan> Even worse!

15:21 <PovAddict> &last --from PovAddict --with speedtest

15:21 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.

15:21 <PovAddict> hmph

15:22 <PovAddict> &url last --from PovAddict --with speedtest

15:22 <Romulus> PovAddict:

15:22 <MTughan> lol

15:22 <PovAddict> that's mine

15:22 <MTughan> Take a look at the second one I posted. Half your download...

15:22 <PovAddict> how the hell do you have lower download than upload?

15:23 <PovAddict> I get such a round 3000kbps that I think the speedtest server is on my ISP :P

15:23 <MTughan> It's really slow today... I don't know.

15:23 <PovAddict> maybe someone in the network is downloading like mad

15:23 <ELGono> indeed jay, krell is phantastic, too

15:24 <MTughan> PovAddict: Using the server in Buenos Aires?

15:24 <ELGono> i also like the sound of big mcIntosh blocks

15:24 <PovAddict> yes the one and only

15:24 <MTughan> It's run by Telecentro, you're on Prime S.A. I don't know if they're related.

15:24 <ELGono> has something of american think big philosophy

15:25 <MTughan> My result to them: :P

15:25 <PovAddict> not sure how stuff is nowadays

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15:26 <ELGono>

15:26 <MTughan> Nice... About the same upload as me, but twice the download.

15:27 <MTughan> I think we're limited by the 10Mb Ethernet they ran to the rooms. Sure, the Internet's fast, but it could probably be faster.

15:29 <ELGono> just block spam'n'pr0n ...

15:29 <ELGono> and googleadz hehe

15:30 <MTughan> Ah, that I already do. :P

15:30 <ELGono> well globally ;)

15:30 <PovAddict> the first step in any optimization is finding the real bottleneck...

15:30 <MTughan> A filter on Doubleclick alone has matched 5000+ times since it's been in effect. Probably about a month at this point.

15:32 <MTughan> Another four filters around the 2000 mark.

15:32 <PovAddict> would be interesting if you could measure bandwidth

15:32 <PovAddict> how much BW is/would be wasted by ads

15:33 <ELGono> well some say more than 75% of internet traffic is generated/initiated by google

15:34 <MTughan> Interesting idea...

15:34 <Romulus> <> (at

15:35 <PovAddict> ELGono: sounds bs

15:35 <ELGono> the green team of our community is just breaking down cause they lost the race of a solar powered wlan hotspot/repeater

15:35 <PovAddict> most websites are porn, most email traffic is spam

15:35 <MTughan> lol

15:36 <ELGono> pov i doubt it too

15:36 <PovAddict> and according to ISPs, a high percentage of total traffic is P2P

15:36 <ELGono> cause i still believe in filesharing ;)

15:36 <PovAddict> MTughan: my dad has something like that

15:36 <ELGono> i interpret that number as 75% of website requests

15:37 <ELGono> but not traffic

15:37 <PovAddict> yeah

15:38 <ELGono> i already had 100mbit line when napster appeared back in 99

15:38 <ELGono> and the internet then went slower and slower

15:41 <ELGono> but in general, there have been some improvements in the last years

15:41 <ELGono> europe-us connections are still accepable and australia made a huge step

15:43 <ELGono> well they have a new fibre (one was broken by a ship anchor) but not so much new members

15:44 <ELGono> cause spreading internet on the continent is difficult

16:10 <PovAddict> &tiny

16:10 <Romulus> <> (at

16:10 <Romulus> PovAddict:

16:11 <PovAddict> &tiny ",EXCHG.65).gif"

16:11 <Romulus> PovAddict:

16:11 <Romulus> <> (at

16:17 <xcamel> Rare 50 year Arctic Blast Sets Sights On Southern California.

16:18 <xcamel>

16:18 <Romulus> Title: Southern California Forecast Center - (at

16:18 <xcamel> hehehehe...

16:22 <PovAddict> what about it

16:27 <xcamel> big frosties in the land where it never happens...

16:29 <PovAddict> ah, well I didn't know it never happened there

16:29 <PovAddict> damn I'm melting

16:29 <PovAddict> at least it got real cloudy now, hope it rains loads

16:29 <PovAddict> &wx eze

16:29 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 86°F / 30°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:95 F. / 35 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Rain. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:59 F. / 15 C.;

16:29 <PovAddict> 7 PM -.-'

16:32 <ELGono> sounds nice pov

16:32 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

16:32 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 10:20 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Overcast. Low:30 F. / -1 C.; Overcast. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 F. / 0 C.; Chance of Snow. High:35 F. / 2 C.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 F. / -2 C.;

16:32 <PovAddict> too damned hot

16:32 <PovAddict> trade you

16:34 <ELGono> it's just good for 32C now on cpu

16:34 <PovAddict> Core0 Temp:  +53.0°C

16:34 <PovAddict> Core1 Temp:  +54.0°C

16:35 <ELGono> was already below room temp this year with cpu temp while full load

16:35 <ELGono> then its getting dangerous cause of condesing water

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16:43 <xcamel> seems about once every 10 days I have to knock out this cable link to get my speed back

16:49 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 11.2F / -11.6C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.50in / 1032.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of light snow after midnight. Lows around 8 above. Temperature rising to around 16 after midnight. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 20 (1 more message)

16:49 <xcamel> &more

16:49 <Romulus> xcamel: percent.; Tuesday - Cloudy. A chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Rain. Not as cool with lows in the lower 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.;

16:49 <PovAddict> trade you too

16:49 <xcamel> temps are going to climb pretty fast now..

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17:01 <ELGono> looks like you have the real winter

17:04 <xcamel> it was 0F this morning - way too cold this early.

17:10 <ELGono> &math convert F to C 0

17:10 <Romulus> ELGono: Error: C0 is not a valid unit.

17:10 <ELGono> &math convert 0 F to C

17:10 <Romulus> ELGono: -17.7777777778

17:10 <ELGono> ouch

17:14 <MTughan> ELGono: I have a low of -20C... :(

17:15 <PovAddict> 29.7C inside :(

17:15 <xcamel> record low for yesterday was -7F

17:15 <PovAddict> brrr

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17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:26 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:32 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

17:32 <xcamel> "Sheep Poo Caused Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage"

17:33 <xcamel>

17:33 <Romulus> <> (at

17:33 <xcamel> LOL!!

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18:01 <xcamel> I think a journalist would wait all his life to write a headline like that...

18:02 <Tank_Master> lol

18:02 <Tank_Master> probably

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18:40 <xcamel> hmmm... got quiet.

18:42 <MTughan> Did you kill them all with sheep poo? xD

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18:43 <xcamel> Wales...

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18:43 * xcamel sporks self.

18:46 <KathrynM> owwww... that had to hurt.

18:47 <xcamel> not even sure what key combo I hit to do that...

18:47 * xcamel needs to go get coffee..

19:04 <xcamel> damn.. back down to 9F

19:05 <MTughan> Hmm... Apparently the low is -16C/3F, but we're already there, and it's only 7PM...

19:05 <MTughan> Would this be the same Arctic wind that is sweeping down into California?

19:06 <CoderForLife> 'evening boincphiles

19:06 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

19:06 <CoderForLife> hey MTughan

19:08 <xcamel> 'lo Don

19:08 <CoderForLife> hello Jay =)

19:08 <xcamel> correction - now 8F

19:09 <xcamel> at least there is no wind now..

19:09 <CoderForLife> went out to eat with the missus and shopped at JCPenney

19:09 <xcamel> Such a good hubby...

19:09 <CoderForLife> it was like, um, er, what did they used to call those things, oh, yeah,  a date

19:10 <xcamel> make her pay for her half of the happy meal?

19:10 <xcamel> :-/

19:10 <CoderForLife> nah, I bought her meal at Steak-n-Shake

19:10 <xcamel> oh.. you're e-v-i-l

19:10 <CoderForLife> I even opened the car door for her afterwards

19:11 <xcamel> I guess you're jones'in for a serious xmas gift.

19:12 <CoderForLife> indeed

19:12 <CoderForLife> brb

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19:18 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

19:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 39.9F / 4.4C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain late. Evening lows around 40...then temperatures rising into the lower 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; (1 more message)

19:18 <CoderForLife> &more

19:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Tuesday - Rain. Highs in the lower 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tuesday Night - Rain. Lows in the mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming northwest 15 to 20 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

19:19 <CoderForLife> expecting about an inch of rain tomorrow - going outside to put a tarp over the wood pile, and cover over the timer on the Christmas lights - bbiab

19:20 <xcamel> yeah.. still waiting for that "big warm-up"

19:26 <xcamel> oh.. getting down to the final details on the jeep...

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19:39 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:39 <efc> Moo

19:40 <xcamel> arf

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19:55 <CoderForLife> baack for a moment

19:55 <CoderForLife> outside chores all done

19:56 <CoderForLife> seems balmy by comparison

19:56 <CoderForLife> 44F

19:56 <CoderForLife> good progress on the jeep xcamel

19:58 <xcamel> spendy, but going to be worth it... if I can move the commander...

19:59 <xcamel> only 14K miles - just.

19:59 <CoderForLife> new?

19:59 <Romulus> Rumor has it new is 6.whatever, CoderForLife

19:59 <xcamel> the commander is my winter car - an 06

20:00 <efc> The Charlie Brown special is on..

20:00 <CoderForLife> yes - I remember

20:00 <CoderForLife> now...

20:00 <xcamel> CB - for the eleventy-thirtheenth time..

20:01 <xcamel> the c is loaded too.. got that when I unloaded the hummer.

20:01 <CoderForLife> it's not such a bad little tree

20:02 <CoderForLife> ah, didn't know you had a hummer

20:02 <xcamel> one of the early H2's

20:02 <CoderForLife> ah

20:03 <xcamel> always been a big sucker for offroading

20:03 <CoderForLife> you've got the property/excuse

20:04 <xcamel> lol - charlie brown in HD

20:04 <xcamel> whooda-thunkit

20:04 <CoderForLife> I'm heading downstairs to the TeeVee

20:04 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:04 <xcamel> rather listen to laura ingraham

20:04 * CoderForLife is away - like he was never here

20:10 <efc> We got a John Deere Gator for our running around

20:13 <xcamel> I have a polaris ranger

20:13 <xcamel> with a dying battery, sadly.

20:13 <xcamel> but it works well.

20:20 <efc> I need more land than my parents, so I can justify a bigger vehicle

20:22 <xcamel> I just really like the 4dr jeep

20:22 <xcamel> similar to >>

20:22 <Romulus> <> (at

21:00 <xcamel> laterz..

21:26 <PovAddict> stupid f*cking weather

21:26 <PovAddict> a cockroach ran under my bed

21:27 <PovAddict> no way id sleep knowing that thing was under my bed, alive

21:27 <efc> Lemme guess, you're out of Mayo

21:28 <PovAddict> so i tried moving the bed to try to see it and kill it

21:30 <PovAddict> saw it crawling over my f*cking pillow!!! and *that* is where i got violent

21:31 <PovAddict> as in 'i will kill it, and dont care if i destroy my bedroom in the process'

21:34 <PovAddict> I just had to get violent to kill a cockroach

21:35 <PovAddict> oops wrong wnd

21:36 <efc> Its either us or them.

21:41 <Soul_keeper> no talking !

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