IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-12-16

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01:13 <linear_shift> moo efc

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02:01 <Soul_keeper> i knew i shouldn't have eaten all them double cheeseburgers, now i can't sleep

02:02 * linear_shift is a vegetarian

02:03 * Soul_keeper eats vegetarians

02:04 * linear_shift runs like hell

02:04 <linear_shift> lol

02:04 <Soul_keeper> fee fi fo fum !

02:05 <linear_shift> everybody hates us :D

02:05 <linear_shift> especially on thanksgiving

02:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah you get mixed up with the tree huggers, save the whale guys, and gays

02:05 <Soul_keeper> and the flower power crowd ...

02:05 <MTughan> Heh.

02:06 * linear_shift is three out of those four

02:06 <linear_shift> not gay ;)

02:06 <MTughan> You realize we only have your word on that?

02:06 <linear_shift> vas emma

02:07 <linear_shift> sigh

02:07 <linear_shift> should have kept my mouth shut ;)

02:08 <MTughan> Probably have been smarter. :P

02:08 <MTughan> 'lo SK too

02:09 <linear_shift> and lighting more fire...

02:09 * linear_shift is a socialist (like the Canada/Finland kind)

02:10 <Soul_keeper> i'm sorry ...

02:10 <MTughan> Why does everyone think we're commies?

02:10 <linear_shift> MTughan: i know huh?

02:12 <linear_shift> we just want more social programs and more put in the ones already present

02:12 <linear_shift> free enterprise is allowed in socialism

02:13 <MTughan> I don't know about more programs, but our health care sure beats the US's. There are better ones in England and France though.

02:13 * linear_shift wishes he was living in Canada

02:13 <Soul_keeper> only old ladies and kids need healthcare ...

02:13 * MTughan is in Ottawa

02:14 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What, you've never injured yourself badly?

02:14 <MTughan> linear_shift: Damn cold up here...

02:14 <Soul_keeper> yeah and i took it like a man, or payed for it myself

02:15 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: dude, without the meager public health system in AZ i couldn't get medication i have to take for schizophrenia

02:15 <MTughan> And what about those recently laid off because of the stupidity of the stock market?

02:15 <Soul_keeper> i just eat vegetarians when i don't feel well, makes me stronger

02:15 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, they should go get another job, and stop taking my money

02:16 <linear_shift> they are already trying to take me off of it because i have a 7.50/hr job

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02:16 <MTughan> All right, then what happens if one of the big automakers goes down?

02:16 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, then they get real jobs

02:16 <MTughan> What jobs? There doesn't seem to be any left.

02:16 <Soul_keeper> they make their own

02:17 <Soul_keeper> all kinds of stuff out there

02:17 <linear_shift> republicans are totally illogical

02:17 <MTughan> I don't think there's a need for that many self-started business in the US.

02:18 <Soul_keeper> what makes you say a thing like that ?

02:18 <Soul_keeper> all businesses were self-started/small at one point

02:18 <MTughan> Yes, but they weren't all started at once.

02:19 <Soul_keeper> course not

02:19 <MTughan> That brings us back to the original issue. If people can't get jobs or start businesses, how do they get health care?

02:19 <Soul_keeper> so you agree with the fact that your taxes will steadily increase over the next few years to ensure that the union workers get $75/hr ?

02:20 <Soul_keeper> they should go bankrupt and restructure, renegotiate those insane contracts

02:20 <MTughan> I can tell you're not in a union. And depending on the job, maybe they deserver $75/hr.

02:20 <Soul_keeper> you don't need healthcare

02:21 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: try being in my boat

02:21 <Soul_keeper> if they make an inferior product and can't sell it they certainly don't deserve 75/hr

02:21 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, a schizo tree hugger vegetarian ?

02:21 <MTughan> I was talking about services. I know my math teacher in high school could charge $80/hr for tutoring. That's not unionized, but others could probably be.

02:22 <efc> You know they aren't actually making 75, thats got the retirement cost in there, I think they actually "make" more like 35

02:23 <Soul_keeper> efc, 75 is counting benefits yes, but compared to toyota (also countinting benefits) which is like 50  they are making much more

02:24 <efc> yeah just as long as you are looking at apples to apples

02:24 <Soul_keeper> and toyota made 17 billion this year ...

02:24 <efc> They are having to give up the "rubber room" crap at least where they make 90% of full wage when not working

02:24 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: a kid fresh out of high school in a family trying to keep their heads above water working a 7.50/hr job (that may not last, i'm a temp), intent on going to college in a year, and has a medical condition that requires me to take 3 medication that cost $100 each to refill

02:25 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, just tough it out, you can do it

02:25 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: yeah right. try it.

02:25 <Soul_keeper> i have

02:26 <Soul_keeper> it's never easy unless you are a 75/hr union member ...

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02:26 <Soul_keeper> btw the mexicans in front of homedepot don't work for less than 10/hr

02:27 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: do you have a family that needs about 50% of your paycheck?

02:27 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, i've got my own obligations

02:27 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: name them

02:27 <Soul_keeper> i'm not playing your game

02:28 * efc sprays fire retardant foam everywhere

02:28 <Soul_keeper> it's not my fault you are in your situation

02:28 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

02:29 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

02:29 <Soul_keeper> and at 7.5 an hour 50% of one's paycheck could easily go to rent alone, might want to look into skilled labor

02:31 * Soul_keeper goes to sleep

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02:32 <MTughan> I need to go to sleep too... Early morning, and a 4.5 hour train ride.

02:32 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: then whos? did i want schizophrenia? did my family want to live in a famished job market? did i want to work a 7.50/hr job? did my dad want to have to drop out of college to support us? did my mom want to have to look for bum jobs when having a BS in psychology

02:32 <linear_shift> the tough it out crap cheeses me off to no end

02:33 <Soul_keeper> probably cause you're a cry baby

02:33 <Soul_keeper> be a man

02:33 <linear_shift> loose everything to start again for no reason

02:34 <linear_shift> the rich DSes in this country can afford to give a little more in taxes for christ sake... its retarded

02:35 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: i'm human, thats enough buddy

02:35 <Soul_keeper> check out the tax code they do give more

02:36 <Soul_keeper>

02:36 <Romulus> <> (at

02:36 <linear_shift> hell they can afford to give *half* their income, and live super comfortable lives

02:36 <Soul_keeper> bush even gave you a 10% tax bracket ...

02:36 <efc> Their secret is the capital gains rate, the real fat cats pay that: 10%, no SS/payroll etc

02:37 <Soul_keeper> yeah it's easy to say that having never been in their shoes

02:37 <Soul_keeper> capital gains is 15-20%

02:37 <efc> I haven't figured out how to structure my stuff like that, but I haven't given up..

02:37 <Soul_keeper> obama will likely raise that also

02:37 <Soul_keeper> and that cap gains applies to everyone, not just the rich, anyone with a retirement account

02:37 <linear_shift> for rich a-holes

02:38 <efc> Yeah. I'm not saying it should necessarily go up, but it is also not accurate to say the big guys are paying much at the 35% bracket.

02:38 <Soul_keeper> btw corporate taxes in the US are among the highest in the world right now

02:38 <Soul_keeper> in the neighborhood of 50%

02:39 <linear_shift> 35%? lol, they can afford 50%

02:39 <Soul_keeper>

02:40 <Romulus> <> (at

02:40 <linear_shift> the lowest level should have 5% at the most

02:40 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, maybe you can afford 50%

02:41 <linear_shift> 50% of 350,000 is 175,000. more than enough

02:42 <Soul_keeper> enough for who ? you ?

02:42 <Soul_keeper> if they earned the money why should they give half to you ?

02:42 <linear_shift> what the hell do you people do with all that $$$?

02:42 <linear_shift> rediculous

02:42 <Soul_keeper> maybe they have responsibiities, and costs of doing business that require 80% of their money

02:43 <Soul_keeper> and i'm not rich, but capitalism is the solution, you can't bash it if you've never tryed it

02:43 <linear_shift> i'm living it and it bites

02:44 <Soul_keeper> move to germany then

02:44 <Soul_keeper> you can collect unemployment for 6yrs

02:44 <Soul_keeper> or denmark, college is free

02:44 <Soul_keeper> course your taxes will be 50-60%

02:45 <MTughan> In France, you can have a maid to do the dishes if you're sick.

02:45 <Soul_keeper> lol

02:45 <Soul_keeper> yeah they have everything done for them in france, can't even whipe themselves

02:45 <MTughan> And a doctor to come right to your house.

02:46 <MTughan> They have lower total number of sick days IIRC, even though they all smoke and drink.

02:46 <Soul_keeper> all i know is i love america and the constitution

02:47 <linear_shift> sounds good, i won't have to deal with greedy corporations to depend on for my healthcare, and have colleges that don't change tuition every second

02:47 <Soul_keeper> they have a shorter average work week in europe

02:47 <linear_shift> GOOD

02:48 <Soul_keeper> anyways good luck with that

02:48 <Soul_keeper> ttyl

02:49 <linear_shift> lata

02:49 <linear_shift> nice debating w/ you man :)

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04:14 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 20.9F / -6.2C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Today - Snow. Sleet and freezing rain likely this afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation of up to a tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)

04:14 <CoderForLife> &more

04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: precipitation 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of freezing rain and sleet...decreasing overnight. Additional light ice and sleet accumulation possible. Lows around 30. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southwest after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy. A slight chance of freezing rain and sleet in the morning. Warmer with highs in the lower (1 more message)

04:14 <CoderForLife> &more

04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 40s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory, Winter Storm Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 AM EST on December 17, 2008;

04:21 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:22 <efc> moo CFL

04:24 <efc> &wx 31088

04:24 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 54F / 12C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with areas of fog early. A slight chance of showers in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. East winds around 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 (1 more message)

04:24 <efc> &more

04:24 <Romulus> efc: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;

04:30 <CoderForLife> moo efc

04:35 <efc> Hey CFL, would you like to breed my Roomba with one of yours?

04:35 <CoderForLife> plink - probing web server for directories - mobile, ipaq, pda, wap

04:35 <CoderForLife> I'm afraid that might lead to a deathmatch contest among my 3 for the chance to mate

04:36 <efc> Mines on top, just so you know.

04:36 <efc> He's got plenty of "charge" for all your bit, err, ladies

04:37 <CoderForLife> My Roombas are named Huey, Dewey and Louie

04:37 * FreeLarry58 wonders what size extra batteries efc roomba carries

04:37 <FreeLarry58> lol CoderForLife we all know about ducks

04:38 <CoderForLife> ah that's were you're mistaken

04:38 <CoderForLife> you think they're named after Scrooge McDuck's nephews

04:38 <FreeLarry58> waah not uncle scrooges nephews?

04:38 <linear_shift> efc: gross

04:39 <CoderForLife>

04:39 <Romulus> Title: Huey Dewey And Louie from Silent Running (at

04:39 <CoderForLife> I name my robots after robots

04:39 <FreeLarry58> ahh 2001 oddessy

04:39 <CoderForLife> Silent Running

04:40 <FreeLarry58> thats what i said

04:40 <CoderForLife> lol

04:40 <FreeLarry58> but they were named for uncle scrooges nephews

04:40 <efc> linear_shift: Respect my Roomba's Lifestyle choices

04:40 <linear_shift> efc: lol

04:41 * FreeLarry58 don't ask don't tell

04:41 <CoderForLife> choice?  I thought they were programmed that way from birth

04:42 * FreeLarry58 wonders if roombas programmer any relation to robot chicken doctor

04:42 <linear_shift> how are the roombas supposed to, y'know, do self service? ;)

04:43 <CoderForLife> based on observed behavior, I think the programmer was a square dancer

04:43 <efc> We'll need another robot to clean up the mess after he's done

04:43 <FreeLarry58> lol

04:43 <linear_shift> i think efc knows that all to well :D

04:44 <efc> Hey now

04:44 <linear_shift> hahaha

04:44 <linear_shift> lol

04:44 <efc> I won't even attempt to name the robot used for that

04:44 <efc> Morningafterba doesn't have that ring

04:45 <efc> Remember the SNL sketch? The Woomba. Feminine-hygiene cleaning robot.

04:46 * CoderForLife inspects the family rating setting

04:46 <linear_shift> CoderForLife: lol

04:47 <efc> It was chasing down ladies in the woods

04:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab

04:49 * FreeLarry58 scratches head - must have played while i was at sea

04:49 <efc> my roomba has a little side brush.. tickles my feet hehe

04:50 <FreeLarry58> dang getting tired already so time to wish you all a good holidays and

04:50 <FreeLarry58> &nn

04:50 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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04:58 <linear_shift> &nn

04:58 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

04:59 <linear_shift> &help

04:59 <Romulus> linear_shift: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

05:05 <linear_shift> lata

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05:33 <CoderForLife> leaving way early for w@#% before the precip starts - laterz

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06:34 <hawmps> spork >> ssh2 hax >>

06:37 <hawmps> HD Video Playback With A $20 CPU & $30 GPU On Linux

06:37 <hawmps>

06:37 <Romulus> <> (at

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06:49 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 1.8F / -16.8C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.63in / 1037.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Very cold. A chance of snow early in the morning...then snow in the late morning and afternoon. Snow accumulation of 4 to 5 inches. High 10 to 15. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy (2 more messages)

06:49 <wdsmia> &more

06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: with a chance of snow early in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow late in the evening. Partly cloudy after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. East wind near 5 mph shifting to the northwest around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect (1 more message)

06:49 <wdsmia> &more

06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;

06:52 <hawmps> 'lo Doug

06:53 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

07:07 <hawmps> spam levels are rising...

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09:05 <quail> &time

09:05 <Romulus> quail: 09:05 AM, December 16, 2008

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09:35 <quail> 'evening all

09:36 <hawmps> 'lo Q

09:45 <CoderForLife> the precip approaches

09:46 <CoderForLife> we had a dry slot of air that held off / evaporated the 2" we were supposed to get overnight

09:48 <CoderForLife> weekly bea^H^H^Hmeeting with the boss at the top of the hour - laterz

09:49 <hawmps> 6-12" possible here overnight

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10:08 <hawmps> spork >>

10:09 <hawmps> spammer..

10:18 <quail> hawmps: how are things?

10:30 <hawmps> well enough

10:30 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

10:30 <hawmps> 'lo mike

10:30 <hawmps> headed home today?

10:30 <quail> hawmps: :-)

10:30 <MTughan> Just packing up the last of my things... Yep.

10:31 <MTughan> 4.5 hour train ride, and I think I have about 15 hours of movies and 8 days of music. We'll see if I run out. :P

10:32 <quail> MTughan: where you off to?

10:32 <MTughan> Oh, only 3.2 days of music according to iTunes... Oh well, we'll still see if I run out.

10:32 <MTughan> Ottawa -> Toronto

10:33 <MTughan> Home for the holidays.

10:33 <quail> :-)

10:34 <quail> home you enjoy the time :-)

10:34 <quail> s/home/hope

10:52 <MTughan> All right, I should be off. Bye all!

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10:55 <Soul_keeper> "At least 2,700 U.S. car companies rose and disappeared from the la te 19th to mid-20th centuries, according to transportation historian James A. Wa rd."

10:56 <hawmps> at least...

10:56 <hawmps> including "humpmobile"

10:57 <hawmps> and Kaiser

10:57 <hawmps> ans Stanley Steemer

10:58 <quail> anyone is a PST timezone?, if so what is the current time please?

10:58 <hawmps> 7:58

10:58 <hawmps> am

10:59 <quail> thanks hawmps :-)

11:11 <PovAdct_w> quail: :)

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11:21 <quail> PovAdct_w: thanks

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11:34 <eric99> Anyone using BOINC on Ubuntu? If so, how did u download & install? Synaptic?

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11:35 <PovAdct_w> I use apt from the command line like a real man :) but yeah synaptic would work

11:35 <PovAdct_w> get boinc-client and boinc-manager packages

11:37 <PovAdct_w> actually on my Ubuntu I have been using BOINC compiled from source for a few months :) but the version from apt worked fine before that

11:38 <eric99> I downloaded ... how does one run this??

11:39 <PovAdct_w> how about you install it from synaptic, and get it already running and starting automatically on boot without having to do anything? :)

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12:06 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

12:06 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 4.3F / -15.4C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1030.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Heavy Snow | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Snow. New snow accumulation around 4 inches. Total snow accumulation 4 to 5 inches. High around 10. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of snow early (1 more message)

12:06 <wdsmia_w> &more

12:06 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow late in the evening. Partly cloudy after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. South wind near 5 mph shifting to the west after midnight. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;

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14:02 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

14:02 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 29.9F / -1.2C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the upper 20s and lower 30s. North wind around 10 mph this morning becoming light.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow late. Lows in the 20s. South wind 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Wednesday - (1 more message)

14:02 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

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14:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 31.1F / -0.5C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 25 to 30. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph... except east wind 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge decreasing late.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Lows (2 more messages)

14:02 <Tank_Master> &more

14:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 20. Light wind...except southeast wind 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.; Wednesday - Breezy. Snow in the morning briefly mixing with rain or light freezing rain in the afternoon. Snow level increasing to 500 feet in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible. Highs 34 to 38. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the south 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Storm (1 more message)

14:02 <Tank_Master> &more

14:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Watch for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on December 17, 2008; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 6:45 PM PST on December 16, 2008;

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14:02 <FreeLarry58> &more

14:02 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Snow. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Highs in the 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Winter Storm Watch for Kitsap County in effect until 4:00 AM PST on December 18, 2008;

14:03 <FreeLarry58> same up here Tank_Master

14:03 <hawmps> &wx 12020

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 30.4F / -0.9C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Snow likely in the evening...then snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows in the mid 20s. Northeast winds (2 more messages)

14:03 <hawmps> &more

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Snow in the morning...then snow...sleet and freezing rain likely in the afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County (1 more message)

14:03 <hawmps> &more

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: in effect until 4:00 PM EST on December 17, 2008;

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14:04 <Tank_Master> was cold this morning

14:04 <Tank_Master> 13f

14:04 <Tank_Master> -10c

14:04 <FreeLarry58> yeah i know - car took over 4 miles driving to get to operating temp

14:05 <Tank_Master> nice

14:06 <FreeLarry58> normally takes a half maile driving

14:06 <Tank_Master> man, I cant wait for my router to arrive

14:06 <Tank_Master> Im on someone elses wifi

14:07 <Tank_Master> getting like 15KB/s xfer

14:07 <FreeLarry58> whos delivering ( if not usps - will be upset )

14:07 <FreeLarry58> ugg

14:07 <FreeLarry58> waht happened to your isp?

14:08 <Tank_Master> UPS probably

14:08 <FreeLarry58> double ugg

14:08 <Tank_Master> ISP is fine

14:08 <Tank_Master> its the router that dies

14:08 <Tank_Master> died*

14:08 <FreeLarry58> ahh

14:08 <Tank_Master> but its over a year old, and has been giving us probs for a while

14:08 <Tank_Master> so I aint gonna loose sleep over it

14:08 <FreeLarry58> glad i got a few areas to go and pick one up at store

14:09 <Tank_Master> just wish I could go to the store and pick one up

14:09 <FreeLarry58> wally world has em here also

14:09 <Tank_Master> "that option not avalible in this area"

14:09 <Tank_Master> for FIOS?

14:09 <FreeLarry58> not sure what FIOS is

14:09 <hawmps> still successfully ignoring the holiday season...

14:10 <FreeLarry58> holiday season???? just a lot of packages thru work as well as a lot of manual letters

14:10 <Tank_Master> FISO's routers have built in PPPoE config

14:10 <Tank_Master> no option to changeing it, or settin gt he username/pw

14:11 <FreeLarry58> ahh something i don't deal with

14:11 <hawmps> no, completely ignoring.

14:11 <FreeLarry58> well jay - as my job to move mail - cant completely ignore the holiday consiquencs

14:12 * FreeLarry58 thinks soap tastes nasty this early in morning - got to watch out for using those 4 letter wordss

14:17 <FreeLarry58> ahh i see FIOS just another way for isp to control users access.  mostly used by providers to customers

14:17 * FreeLarry58 is glad wavecable still allows customers routers

14:18 <FreeLarry58>

14:18 <Romulus> <> (at

14:18 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news December 16, 2008

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15:46 <PovAddict> "We are pleased to announce that BOINC 6.4.5 is ready for public use."

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15:56 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict are they really sure?

15:56 <PovAddict> I wonder if BOINC has ever been ready for public use

15:56 <FreeLarry58> lol

15:56 <FreeLarry58> aren't we still in beta?

15:57 <FreeLarry58> noticed i got my new benchmark last night - over 6,000,000 credits

15:57 <FreeLarry58> goal, target?

16:00 <xcamel> hola

16:00 <FreeLarry58> afternoon jay

16:02 <xcamel> indeed

16:03 <xcamel> The Other White Meat: Roast guinea pig for Christmas?

16:03 <xcamel>

16:03 <Romulus> <> (at

16:06 <xcamel> possible 6-12" tonight

16:07 <xcamel> oh joy

16:08 <FreeLarry58> huymm sounds delicious

16:09 <FreeLarry58> talking 1-2 inches here and more tomorrow

16:09 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict just updated this machine  - i see that it lost the pw's for remote access - can you tell me which file i need to edit to put pw back in?

16:10 <PovAddict> BOINC?

16:10 <Romulus> hmm... BOINC is all perfect and stuff, PovAddict

16:10 <PovAddict> lol

16:10 <PovAddict> it's not, Rommie

16:11 <FreeLarry58> yeah

16:12 <FreeLarry58> had it set for ip's and pw ip's for remotes stayed but pw's disappeared upone update to 6.4.5

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16:12 <xcamel> geez... where is CFL

16:12 <FreeLarry58> hiding under roomba?

16:13 <xcamel> Big Bill Bechtel from cincy on the radio..

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16:37 <CoderForLife> I am here... I am here.. I am here!

16:38 <CoderForLife> Bill Bechtel?  Maybe Bill Cunningham?

16:40 <Soul_keeper> no

16:40 <CoderForLife> I'm from Cincy and I don't know a "Big Bill Bechtel"

16:41 <CoderForLife> Google is unhelpful

16:42 <xcamel> sorry... got the wrong name

16:42 <xcamel> it was Bob Beckel

16:42 <CoderForLife> ah

16:43 <CoderForLife> is Bob from Cincy?

16:43 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [02:42:745] 09_-_I'm_Gonna_Be_Somebody

16:46 <xcamel> seems so..

16:53 <Soul_keeper> which day is xmas on ?

16:53 <CoderForLife> 25th  =)

16:53 <PovAddict> &grab Soul_keeper

16:53 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

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16:53 <xcamel> some day ending in a "y"

16:54 * PovAddict looks for the 25th on his calendar

16:54 <PovAddict> "Jueves"

16:55 <Soul_keeper> ok appears so

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16:55 <xcamel> viente ciuatro?

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16:56 <PovAddict> that's 24th

16:56 <PovAddict> (mis-spelled :P)

16:56 <xcamel> viente cinco

16:56 <PovAddict> yup

16:56 <xcamel> indeed

16:56 <xcamel> temporary brain fart

16:57 <xcamel> still waiting for my hook-ed-on-phon-icks for es-pan-yol

16:58 <Soul_keeper> what about spanglish ?

16:58 <Soul_keeper> probably got one for  spanglish and ebonix  by now

16:59 <xcamel> spanglish I can do..

17:04 <CoderForLife> 1337

17:05 <xcamel> lol - shep smith did it again...

17:05 <xcamel> 'Barrod Balogjovich"

17:05 <xcamel> funny as hell..

17:06 <PovAddict> it's impressive how much can be said about a number ... -.-

17:06 <Romulus> Title: 24 (number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

17:07 <xcamel> and the show..

17:08 <xcamel> should have just called him "Haywood Jablome"

17:08 <PovAddict> somebody noted the article for "World of Warcraft" was longer than the article for "Shower", which meant something

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17:23 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

17:26 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:28 <Rookie_69> I'm trying to get rigged up for Prime Grid Challenge, but seem to be about 4" shy on one video cable. Anybody got a wire stretcher?

17:30 <PovAddict> "hell is British cuisine, French equipment, German bureaucracy, an American lover and the Italian police, while paradise is French cuisine, German equipment, the British bureaucracy, the American police, and an Italian lover"

17:31 <Rookie_69> You'd think I'd have a video extension cable lying around here somewhere.

17:34 <Rookie_69> Ok. By dangling the KVM off of the back of the rack, I managed to get the cable to reach. :-)

17:35 <Rookie_69> Lol. Now I need a power cord that actually works.

17:43 <Rookie_69> Now that it has power, it's taking forever to boot up. :-(

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17:45 <FreeLarry58> humm how to update linux with new boinc? easiest way

17:45 <FreeLarry58> yum?

17:45 <Romulus> I guess yum is easy, FreeLarry58

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17:46 <FreeLarry58> k rommie you do it ;) not

17:46 <PovAddict> lol

17:46 <PovAddict> I wouldn't trust rommie wiht my ssh password

17:46 <FreeLarry58> neither would i

17:47 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict can you still get to the nix machines here?

17:48 <FreeLarry58> i don't think i fowarded port 22 to any machine yet

17:49 <FreeLarry58> just did to quad (103)

17:49 <wdsmia> Gah 50 min to go 9 miles

17:50 <FreeLarry58> hey doug you speeding again

17:50 <FreeLarry58> pov doing updates on quad for nix currently

17:50 <wdsmia> you have to move to speed

17:50 <CoderForLife> at least you were sitting down

17:51 <FreeLarry58> lol

17:51 <wdsmia> sit and shiver

17:52 <CoderForLife> that's better that the other way around

17:52 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 7.7F / -13.5C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow and areas of freezing drizzle. New snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. East wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until (2 more messages)

17:52 <CoderForLife> &dict siver

17:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gcide: Siver \Siv"er\, v. i. To simmer. [Obs.] --Holland. [1913 Webster]

17:52 <wdsmia> &more

17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Intermittent light snow and areas of freezing drizzle early in the evening...then areas of freezing drizzle and a slight chance of light snow late in the evening. Areas of freezing fog after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. South wind near 5 mph shifting to the west after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 (1 more message)

17:52 <wdsmia> &more

17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 20. Northwest wind near 5 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon.; Winter Storm Watch, Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;

17:53 <CoderForLife> lol

17:53 <CoderForLife> I guess you do the reverse in the summer

17:54 <Rookie_69> Hi, Larry, Don, Doug, Nicolas... Did I miss anybody?

17:54 <FreeLarry58> hey Rookie_69

17:54 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

17:57 <CoderForLife> well  there's more names that that on the list...

18:00 <Rookie_69> ... that are active?

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18:00 <CoderForLife> the Walking Lurkers

18:00 <Rookie_69> I said Hi to Jay already...

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18:01 <CoderForLife> there - scared one off

18:01 <FreeLarry58> on laying flat lurkers here

18:03 <CoderForLife> undead connections

18:03 <KathrynM> Just woke up

18:04 <CoderForLife> You part of the undead?

18:05 <CoderForLife> Rookie_69 - got a live one for you here

18:05 * CoderForLife avoids the Tab Key of Death

18:05 <Rookie_69> Ok... Hi, Kathryn!

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18:24 <FreeLarry58> oh no i killed pov

18:27 <Rookie_69> Good for you.

18:27 <FreeLarry58> at least both nix updated to 6.2..15

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18:35 <xcamel> back again

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18:41 <wdsmia> 1,000,293 on Rosetta :)

18:42 <FreeLarry58> good job

18:42 * FreeLarry58 just tried to install network printer on linux - hope it works

18:42 <xcamel> congrats..

18:43 <wdsmia> 8 projects over 1M :)

18:44 <FreeLarry58> if i had half of your resources i might be closer

18:44 <FreeLarry58> well printer at least works in black in white even tho it color - at least a step in right direction ;)

18:45 <FreeLarry58> don't have right drivers for it

18:46 <FreeLarry58> getting close to 1 mill on second project doug - einstien by end of month

18:46 <FreeLarry58> hopefully

18:46 <wdsmia> working on 1M on LHC next

18:47 <FreeLarry58> i noticed you were close - but they slow on wu's

18:48 <wdsmia> yup

18:49 <xcamel> if lhc ever hands out enough work

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18:50 <FreeLarry58> darn einstien not till end of next month for milestone

18:51 <wdsmia> HAPPY BIRTHDAY! GLENN

18:53 <Rookie_69> Frag off!

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18:54 <xcamel> elfing himself again?

18:57 <Soul_keeper> where is the seti enhanced website ?

18:58 <Rookie_69> Berkeley.

18:58 <Soul_keeper>  no here

18:58 <Romulus> Title: Seti@Home optimized science apps and information (at

18:58 <Soul_keeper> nevermind

19:01 <Soul_keeper> awesome ssse3 support

19:08 <Soul_keeper> hmmm apears i already had it installed ...

19:08 <xcamel> hmmm.. should check to see where the snow is..

19:09 <Rookie_69> Amazing how stuff happens when you're not paying attention.

19:09 <wdsmia> Its here

19:09 <xcamel> from boston to DesMoines

19:09 <xcamel> looks like it's gonna get kinda white

19:10 <Rookie_69> &divert snow.

19:10 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Are you daft?

19:10 <wdsmia> white and 30F is ok... white and 7F sucks

19:11 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 32.0°F / 0.0°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 11.5mph / 18.5km/h | Updated: 8:11 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries and rain showers ending early this evening then cloudy. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light overnight. Low -6C(21F).; Wednesday - Cloudy. Snow at times (2 more messages)

19:11 <Rookie_69> &more

19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: heavy beginning late in the morning changing to rain late in the day. Snowfall amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) in the afternoon. High 2C(36F). Wednesday night rain ending in the evening then cloudy. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Wind southeast 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) in the evening. Temperature rising to (1 more message)

19:11 <Rookie_69> &more

19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: 4C(39F) in the evening then falling.; Thursday - Sunny. High 1C(34F).;

19:12 <Rookie_69> More wind.

19:13 <Rookie_69> Wind isn't so bad when there's no snow...

19:14 <wdsmia> snow isnt that bad when there's no wind

19:19 <Soul_keeper> you guys run simap  ?

19:20 <wdsmia>

19:20 <Romulus> <> (at

19:20 <xcamel> going to be a fun drive back from detroit in late january...

19:28 <Soul_keeper>   you guys running this now ?

19:28 <Romulus> Title: Run SETI@home on your NVIDIA GPU (at

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19:29 <MTughan> This is just temporary. I'll get my Mac back up soon enough, but the Lenovo will do for now.

19:35 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, what video card you got ?

19:35 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Which comp?

19:36 <Soul_keeper>   i just wanna know if you are/can run this ?

19:36 <Romulus> Title: Run SETI@home on your NVIDIA GPU (at

19:36 <MTughan> I have an Intel GMA950, and Intel X4500, an ATI Radeon 9600, and a Radeon 3470.

19:36 <MTughan> No Nvidia.

19:39 <FreeLarry58> Rookie_69 didn't you know &divert command brings the weather to you

19:48 <Soul_keeper> those nvidia cards are massive

19:49 <xcamel> and enough computing power to take over LHC

19:49 <Soul_keeper> does anyone in here run a project on one ?

19:50 <Soul_keeper> i just wanna see how many credits they are getting

19:56 <xcamel> "Since 1968, '911' has promised safety from crime"

19:57 <xcamel> "Since 1940, the 1911 has delivered on that promise"

19:58 <xcamel>

19:58 <Romulus> <> (at

20:01 <Soul_keeper>  :)

20:01 <Romulus> Title: GPU Technology for Accelerated Computing (at

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20:03 <wdsmia>

20:03 <Romulus> <> (at

20:03 <PovAddict> I see dead people

20:04 <xcamel> gotta love a high standard... except for the nasty slide bite, and a bruised wrist with the +p ammo

20:05 <xcamel> My son just bought an airweight .38 stubby

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20:10 <Soul_keeper> fun

20:10 <xcamel> got to stick with the .38 swc's otherwise your wrist will be in a cast.

20:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah their profits fell big time today, they need your money

20:28 <FreeLarry58> yeah i finally got color printing on the nix quad core machine

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20:32 <xcamel> now I'm going to see if I can go back to fc9

20:32 <xcamel> fat chance, eh?

20:32 <FreeLarry58> ?? still on fc8 here

20:33 <xcamel> fc10 is very strange

20:33 <FreeLarry58> never got a working iso for fc9

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20:40 <xcamel> dunno if it will backtrack though

20:41 <xcamel> boincmgr fails in 10, with kde and "the new X"

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21:52 <granpa_paul> well fish said in the thread noon central

21:52 <granpa_paul> crap

22:02 <Rookie_69> Dammit... I fell asleep.

22:03 <Rookie_69> NN.

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22:18 <Soul_keeper> the candy section at target is where all the hot chicks hang out

22:19 <PovAddict> you have been monitoring them?

22:20 <Soul_keeper> yeah was just there

22:20 <Soul_keeper> well first i went to home depot and bought an axe, then went to the bank.  then went to target and stared at hot chicks, then went to circuit city and stared at lcd monitors

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