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01:13 <linear_shift> moo efc
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02:01 <Soul_keeper> i knew i shouldn't have eaten all them double cheeseburgers, now i can't sleep
02:02 * linear_shift is a vegetarian
02:03 * Soul_keeper eats vegetarians
02:04 * linear_shift runs like hell
02:04 <linear_shift> lol
02:04 <Soul_keeper> fee fi fo fum !
02:05 <linear_shift> everybody hates us :D
02:05 <linear_shift> especially on thanksgiving
02:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah you get mixed up with the tree huggers, save the whale guys, and gays
02:05 <Soul_keeper> and the flower power crowd ...
02:05 <MTughan> Heh.
02:06 * linear_shift is three out of those four
02:06 <linear_shift> not gay ;)
02:06 <MTughan> You realize we only have your word on that?
02:06 <linear_shift> vas emma
02:07 <linear_shift> sigh
02:07 <linear_shift> should have kept my mouth shut ;)
02:08 <MTughan> Probably have been smarter. :P
02:08 <MTughan> 'lo SK too
02:09 <linear_shift> and lighting more fire...
02:09 * linear_shift is a socialist (like the Canada/Finland kind)
02:10 <Soul_keeper> i'm sorry ...
02:10 <MTughan> Why does everyone think we're commies?
02:10 <linear_shift> MTughan: i know huh?
02:12 <linear_shift> we just want more social programs and more put in the ones already present
02:12 <linear_shift> free enterprise is allowed in socialism
02:13 <MTughan> I don't know about more programs, but our health care sure beats the US's. There are better ones in England and France though.
02:13 * linear_shift wishes he was living in Canada
02:13 <Soul_keeper> only old ladies and kids need healthcare ...
02:13 * MTughan is in Ottawa
02:14 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What, you've never injured yourself badly?
02:14 <MTughan> linear_shift: Damn cold up here...
02:14 <Soul_keeper> yeah and i took it like a man, or payed for it myself
02:15 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: dude, without the meager public health system in AZ i couldn't get medication i have to take for schizophrenia
02:15 <MTughan> And what about those recently laid off because of the stupidity of the stock market?
02:15 <Soul_keeper> i just eat vegetarians when i don't feel well, makes me stronger
02:15 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, they should go get another job, and stop taking my money
02:16 <linear_shift> they are already trying to take me off of it because i have a 7.50/hr job
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02:16 <MTughan> All right, then what happens if one of the big automakers goes down?
02:16 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, then they get real jobs
02:16 <MTughan> What jobs? There doesn't seem to be any left.
02:16 <Soul_keeper> they make their own
02:17 <Soul_keeper> all kinds of stuff out there
02:17 <linear_shift> republicans are totally illogical
02:17 <MTughan> I don't think there's a need for that many self-started business in the US.
02:18 <Soul_keeper> what makes you say a thing like that ?
02:18 <Soul_keeper> all businesses were self-started/small at one point
02:18 <MTughan> Yes, but they weren't all started at once.
02:19 <Soul_keeper> course not
02:19 <MTughan> That brings us back to the original issue. If people can't get jobs or start businesses, how do they get health care?
02:19 <Soul_keeper> so you agree with the fact that your taxes will steadily increase over the next few years to ensure that the union workers get $75/hr ?
02:20 <Soul_keeper> they should go bankrupt and restructure, renegotiate those insane contracts
02:20 <MTughan> I can tell you're not in a union. And depending on the job, maybe they deserver $75/hr.
02:20 <Soul_keeper> you don't need healthcare
02:21 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: try being in my boat
02:21 <Soul_keeper> if they make an inferior product and can't sell it they certainly don't deserve 75/hr
02:21 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, a schizo tree hugger vegetarian ?
02:21 <MTughan> I was talking about services. I know my math teacher in high school could charge $80/hr for tutoring. That's not unionized, but others could probably be.
02:22 <efc> You know they aren't actually making 75, thats got the retirement cost in there, I think they actually "make" more like 35
02:23 <Soul_keeper> efc, 75 is counting benefits yes, but compared to toyota (also countinting benefits) which is like 50 they are making much more
02:24 <efc> yeah just as long as you are looking at apples to apples
02:24 <Soul_keeper> and toyota made 17 billion this year ...
02:24 <efc> They are having to give up the "rubber room" crap at least where they make 90% of full wage when not working
02:24 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: a kid fresh out of high school in a family trying to keep their heads above water working a 7.50/hr job (that may not last, i'm a temp), intent on going to college in a year, and has a medical condition that requires me to take 3 medication that cost $100 each to refill
02:25 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, just tough it out, you can do it
02:25 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: yeah right. try it.
02:25 <Soul_keeper> i have
02:26 <Soul_keeper> it's never easy unless you are a 75/hr union member ...
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02:26 <Soul_keeper> btw the mexicans in front of homedepot don't work for less than 10/hr
02:27 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: do you have a family that needs about 50% of your paycheck?
02:27 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, i've got my own obligations
02:27 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: name them
02:27 <Soul_keeper> i'm not playing your game
02:28 * efc sprays fire retardant foam everywhere
02:28 <Soul_keeper> it's not my fault you are in your situation
02:28 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
02:29 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo
02:29 <Soul_keeper> and at 7.5 an hour 50% of one's paycheck could easily go to rent alone, might want to look into skilled labor
02:31 * Soul_keeper goes to sleep
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02:32 <MTughan> I need to go to sleep too... Early morning, and a 4.5 hour train ride.
02:32 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: then whos? did i want schizophrenia? did my family want to live in a famished job market? did i want to work a 7.50/hr job? did my dad want to have to drop out of college to support us? did my mom want to have to look for bum jobs when having a BS in psychology
02:32 <linear_shift> the tough it out crap cheeses me off to no end
02:33 <Soul_keeper> probably cause you're a cry baby
02:33 <Soul_keeper> be a man
02:33 <linear_shift> loose everything to start again for no reason
02:34 <linear_shift> the rich DSes in this country can afford to give a little more in taxes for christ sake... its retarded
02:35 <linear_shift> Soul_keeper: i'm human, thats enough buddy
02:35 <Soul_keeper> check out the tax code they do give more
02:36 <linear_shift> hell they can afford to give *half* their income, and live super comfortable lives
02:36 <Soul_keeper> bush even gave you a 10% tax bracket ...
02:36 <efc> Their secret is the capital gains rate, the real fat cats pay that: 10%, no SS/payroll etc
02:37 <Soul_keeper> yeah it's easy to say that having never been in their shoes
02:37 <Soul_keeper> capital gains is 15-20%
02:37 <efc> I haven't figured out how to structure my stuff like that, but I haven't given up..
02:37 <Soul_keeper> obama will likely raise that also
02:37 <Soul_keeper> and that cap gains applies to everyone, not just the rich, anyone with a retirement account
02:37 <linear_shift> for rich a-holes
02:38 <efc> Yeah. I'm not saying it should necessarily go up, but it is also not accurate to say the big guys are paying much at the 35% bracket.
02:38 <Soul_keeper> btw corporate taxes in the US are among the highest in the world right now
02:38 <Soul_keeper> in the neighborhood of 50%
02:39 <linear_shift> 35%? lol, they can afford 50%
02:39 <Soul_keeper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world
02:40 <linear_shift> the lowest level should have 5% at the most
02:40 <Soul_keeper> linear_shift, maybe you can afford 50%
02:41 <linear_shift> 50% of 350,000 is 175,000. more than enough
02:42 <Soul_keeper> enough for who ? you ?
02:42 <Soul_keeper> if they earned the money why should they give half to you ?
02:42 <linear_shift> what the hell do you people do with all that $$$?
02:42 <linear_shift> rediculous
02:42 <Soul_keeper> maybe they have responsibiities, and costs of doing business that require 80% of their money
02:43 <Soul_keeper> and i'm not rich, but capitalism is the solution, you can't bash it if you've never tryed it
02:43 <linear_shift> i'm living it and it bites
02:44 <Soul_keeper> move to germany then
02:44 <Soul_keeper> you can collect unemployment for 6yrs
02:44 <Soul_keeper> or denmark, college is free
02:44 <Soul_keeper> course your taxes will be 50-60%
02:45 <MTughan> In France, you can have a maid to do the dishes if you're sick.
02:45 <Soul_keeper> lol
02:45 <Soul_keeper> yeah they have everything done for them in france, can't even whipe themselves
02:45 <MTughan> And a doctor to come right to your house.
02:46 <MTughan> They have lower total number of sick days IIRC, even though they all smoke and drink.
02:46 <Soul_keeper> all i know is i love america and the constitution
02:47 <linear_shift> sounds good, i won't have to deal with greedy corporations to depend on for my healthcare, and have colleges that don't change tuition every second
02:47 <Soul_keeper> they have a shorter average work week in europe
02:47 <linear_shift> GOOD
02:48 <Soul_keeper> anyways good luck with that
02:48 <Soul_keeper> ttyl
02:49 <linear_shift> lata
02:49 <linear_shift> nice debating w/ you man :)
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04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 20.9°F / -6.2°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Today - Snow. Sleet and freezing rain likely this afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation of up to a tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)
04:14 <CoderForLife> &more
04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: precipitation 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of freezing rain and sleet...decreasing overnight. Additional light ice and sleet accumulation possible. Lows around 30. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southwest after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy. A slight chance of freezing rain and sleet in the morning. Warmer with highs in the lower (1 more message)
04:14 <CoderForLife> &more
04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 40s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory, Winter Storm Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 AM EST on December 17, 2008;
04:21 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:22 <efc> moo CFL
04:24 <efc> &wx 31088
04:24 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with areas of fog early. A slight chance of showers in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. East winds around 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 (1 more message)
04:24 <efc> &more
04:24 <Romulus> efc: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;
04:30 <CoderForLife> moo efc
04:35 <efc> Hey CFL, would you like to breed my Roomba with one of yours?
04:35 <CoderForLife> plink 126.96.36.199 - probing web server for directories - mobile, ipaq, pda, wap
04:35 <CoderForLife> I'm afraid that might lead to a deathmatch contest among my 3 for the chance to mate
04:36 <efc> Mines on top, just so you know.
04:36 <efc> He's got plenty of "charge" for all your bit, err, ladies
04:37 <CoderForLife> My Roombas are named Huey, Dewey and Louie
04:37 * FreeLarry58 wonders what size extra batteries efc roomba carries
04:37 <FreeLarry58> lol CoderForLife we all know about ducks
04:38 <CoderForLife> ah that's were you're mistaken
04:38 <CoderForLife> you think they're named after Scrooge McDuck's nephews
04:38 <FreeLarry58> waah not uncle scrooges nephews?
04:38 <linear_shift> efc: gross
04:39 <Romulus> Title: Huey Dewey And Louie from Silent Running (at www.jeffbots.com)
04:39 <CoderForLife> I name my robots after robots
04:39 <FreeLarry58> ahh 2001 oddessy
04:39 <CoderForLife> Silent Running
04:40 <FreeLarry58> thats what i said
04:40 <CoderForLife> lol
04:40 <FreeLarry58> but they were named for uncle scrooges nephews
04:40 <efc> linear_shift: Respect my Roomba's Lifestyle choices
04:40 <linear_shift> efc: lol
04:41 * FreeLarry58 don't ask don't tell
04:41 <CoderForLife> choice? I thought they were programmed that way from birth
04:42 * FreeLarry58 wonders if roombas programmer any relation to robot chicken doctor
04:42 <linear_shift> how are the roombas supposed to, y'know, do self service? ;)
04:43 <CoderForLife> based on observed behavior, I think the programmer was a square dancer
04:43 <efc> We'll need another robot to clean up the mess after he's done
04:43 <FreeLarry58> lol
04:43 <linear_shift> i think efc knows that all to well :D
04:44 <efc> Hey now
04:44 <linear_shift> hahaha
04:44 <linear_shift> lol
04:44 <efc> I won't even attempt to name the robot used for that
04:44 <efc> Morningafterba doesn't have that ring
04:45 <efc> Remember the SNL sketch? The Woomba. Feminine-hygiene cleaning robot.
04:46 * CoderForLife inspects the family rating setting
04:46 <linear_shift> CoderForLife: lol
04:47 <efc> It was chasing down ladies in the woods
04:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab
04:49 * FreeLarry58 scratches head - must have played while i was at sea
04:49 <efc> my roomba has a little side brush.. tickles my feet hehe
04:50 <FreeLarry58> dang getting tired already so time to wish you all a good holidays and
04:50 <FreeLarry58> &nn
04:50 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
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04:58 <linear_shift> &nn
04:58 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
04:59 <linear_shift> &help
04:59 <Romulus> linear_shift: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
05:05 <linear_shift> lata
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05:33 <CoderForLife> leaving way early for w@#% before the precip starts - laterz
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06:34 <hawmps> spork >> ssh2 hax >> 188.8.131.52
06:37 <hawmps> HD Video Playback With A $20 CPU & $30 GPU On Linux
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06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 1.8°F / -16.8°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.63in / 1037.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Very cold. A chance of snow early in the morning...then snow in the late morning and afternoon. Snow accumulation of 4 to 5 inches. High 10 to 15. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy (2 more messages)
06:49 <wdsmia> &more
06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: with a chance of snow early in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow late in the evening. Partly cloudy after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. East wind near 5 mph shifting to the northwest around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect (1 more message)
06:49 <wdsmia> &more
06:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;
06:52 <hawmps> 'lo Doug
06:53 <wdsmia> mornin Jay
07:07 <hawmps> spam levels are rising...
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09:05 <quail> &time
09:05 <Romulus> quail: 09:05 AM, December 16, 2008
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09:35 <quail> 'evening all
09:36 <hawmps> 'lo Q
09:45 <CoderForLife> the precip approaches
09:46 <CoderForLife> we had a dry slot of air that held off / evaporated the 2" we were supposed to get overnight
09:48 <CoderForLife> weekly bea^H^H^Hmeeting with the boss at the top of the hour - laterz
09:49 <hawmps> 6-12" possible here overnight
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10:08 <hawmps> spork >> 184.108.40.206
10:09 <hawmps> spammer..
10:18 <quail> hawmps: how are things?
10:30 <hawmps> well enough
10:30 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
10:30 <hawmps> 'lo mike
10:30 <hawmps> headed home today?
10:30 <quail> hawmps: :-)
10:30 <MTughan> Just packing up the last of my things... Yep.
10:31 <MTughan> 4.5 hour train ride, and I think I have about 15 hours of movies and 8 days of music. We'll see if I run out. :P
10:32 <quail> MTughan: where you off to?
10:32 <MTughan> Oh, only 3.2 days of music according to iTunes... Oh well, we'll still see if I run out.
10:32 <MTughan> Ottawa -> Toronto
10:33 <MTughan> Home for the holidays.
10:33 <quail> :-)
10:34 <quail> home you enjoy the time :-)
10:34 <quail> s/home/hope
10:52 <MTughan> All right, I should be off. Bye all!
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10:55 <Soul_keeper> "At least 2,700 U.S. car companies rose and disappeared from the la te 19th to mid-20th centuries, according to transportation historian James A. Wa rd."
10:56 <hawmps> at least...
10:56 <hawmps> including "humpmobile"
10:57 <hawmps> and Kaiser
10:57 <hawmps> ans Stanley Steemer
10:58 <quail> anyone is a PST timezone?, if so what is the current time please?
10:58 <hawmps> 7:58
10:58 <hawmps> am
10:59 <quail> thanks hawmps :-)
11:11 <PovAdct_w> quail: timeanddate.com :)
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11:21 <quail> PovAdct_w: thanks
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11:34 <eric99> Anyone using BOINC on Ubuntu? If so, how did u download & install? Synaptic?
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11:35 <PovAdct_w> I use apt from the command line like a real man :) but yeah synaptic would work
11:35 <PovAdct_w> get boinc-client and boinc-manager packages
11:37 <PovAdct_w> actually on my Ubuntu I have been using BOINC compiled from source for a few months :) but the version from apt worked fine before that
11:38 <eric99> I downloaded boinc_6.2.15_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh ... how does one run this??
11:39 <PovAdct_w> how about you install it from synaptic, and get it already running and starting automatically on boot without having to do anything? :)
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12:06 <wdsmia_w> &more
12:06 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow late in the evening. Partly cloudy after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. South wind near 5 mph shifting to the west after midnight. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;
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14:02 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 29.9°F / -1.2°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the upper 20s and lower 30s. North wind around 10 mph this morning becoming light.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow late. Lows in the 20s. South wind 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Wednesday - (1 more message)
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14:02 <Tank_Master> &more
14:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 20. Light wind...except southeast wind 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.; Wednesday - Breezy. Snow in the morning briefly mixing with rain or light freezing rain in the afternoon. Snow level increasing to 500 feet in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible. Highs 34 to 38. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the south 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Storm (1 more message)
14:02 <Tank_Master> &more
14:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Watch for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PST on December 17, 2008; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 6:45 PM PST on December 16, 2008;
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14:02 <FreeLarry58> &more
14:02 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Snow. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Highs in the 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Winter Storm Watch for Kitsap County in effect until 4:00 AM PST on December 18, 2008;
14:03 <FreeLarry58> same up here Tank_Master
14:03 <hawmps> &wx 12020
14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 30.4°F / -0.9°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Snow likely in the evening...then snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Lows in the mid 20s. Northeast winds (2 more messages)
14:03 <hawmps> &more
14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Snow in the morning...then snow...sleet and freezing rain likely in the afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County (1 more message)
14:03 <hawmps> &more
14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: in effect until 4:00 PM EST on December 17, 2008;
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14:04 <Tank_Master> was cold this morning
14:04 <Tank_Master> 13f
14:04 <Tank_Master> -10c
14:04 <FreeLarry58> yeah i know - car took over 4 miles driving to get to operating temp
14:05 <Tank_Master> nice
14:06 <FreeLarry58> normally takes a half maile driving
14:06 <Tank_Master> man, I cant wait for my router to arrive
14:06 <Tank_Master> Im on someone elses wifi
14:07 <Tank_Master> getting like 15KB/s xfer
14:07 <FreeLarry58> whos delivering ( if not usps - will be upset )
14:07 <FreeLarry58> ugg
14:07 <FreeLarry58> waht happened to your isp?
14:08 <Tank_Master> UPS probably
14:08 <FreeLarry58> double ugg
14:08 <Tank_Master> ISP is fine
14:08 <Tank_Master> its the router that dies
14:08 <Tank_Master> died*
14:08 <FreeLarry58> ahh
14:08 <Tank_Master> but its over a year old, and has been giving us probs for a while
14:08 <Tank_Master> so I aint gonna loose sleep over it
14:08 <FreeLarry58> glad i got a few areas to go and pick one up at store
14:09 <Tank_Master> just wish I could go to the store and pick one up
14:09 <FreeLarry58> wally world has em here also
14:09 <Tank_Master> "that option not avalible in this area"
14:09 <Tank_Master> for FIOS?
14:09 <FreeLarry58> not sure what FIOS is
14:09 <hawmps> still successfully ignoring the holiday season...
14:10 <FreeLarry58> holiday season???? just a lot of packages thru work as well as a lot of manual letters
14:10 <Tank_Master> FISO's routers have built in PPPoE config
14:10 <Tank_Master> no option to changeing it, or settin gt he username/pw
14:11 <FreeLarry58> ahh something i don't deal with
14:11 <hawmps> no, completely ignoring.
14:11 <FreeLarry58> well jay - as my job to move mail - cant completely ignore the holiday consiquencs
14:12 * FreeLarry58 thinks soap tastes nasty this early in morning - got to watch out for using those 4 letter wordss
14:17 <FreeLarry58> ahh i see FIOS just another way for isp to control users access. mostly used by providers to customers
14:17 * FreeLarry58 is glad wavecable still allows customers routers
14:18 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news December 16, 2008
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15:46 <PovAddict> "We are pleased to announce that BOINC 6.4.5 is ready for public use."
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15:56 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict are they really sure?
15:56 <PovAddict> I wonder if BOINC has ever been ready for public use
15:56 <FreeLarry58> lol
15:56 <FreeLarry58> aren't we still in beta?
15:57 <FreeLarry58> noticed i got my new benchmark last night - over 6,000,000 credits
15:57 <FreeLarry58> goal, target?
16:00 <xcamel> hola
16:00 <FreeLarry58> afternoon jay
16:02 <xcamel> indeed
16:03 <xcamel> The Other White Meat: Roast guinea pig for Christmas?
16:06 <xcamel> possible 6-12" tonight
16:07 <xcamel> oh joy
16:08 <FreeLarry58> huymm sounds delicious
16:09 <FreeLarry58> talking 1-2 inches here and more tomorrow
16:09 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict just updated this machine - i see that it lost the pw's for remote access - can you tell me which file i need to edit to put pw back in?
16:10 <PovAddict> BOINC?
16:10 <Romulus> hmm... BOINC is all perfect and stuff, PovAddict
16:10 <PovAddict> lol
16:10 <PovAddict> it's not, Rommie
16:11 <FreeLarry58> yeah
16:12 <FreeLarry58> had it set for ip's and pw ip's for remotes stayed but pw's disappeared upone update to 6.4.5
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16:12 <xcamel> geez... where is CFL
16:12 <FreeLarry58> hiding under roomba?
16:13 <xcamel> Big Bill Bechtel from cincy on the radio..
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16:37 <CoderForLife> I am here... I am here.. I am here!
16:38 <CoderForLife> Bill Bechtel? Maybe Bill Cunningham?
16:40 <Soul_keeper> no
16:40 <CoderForLife> I'm from Cincy and I don't know a "Big Bill Bechtel"
16:41 <CoderForLife> Google is unhelpful
16:42 <xcamel> sorry... got the wrong name
16:42 <xcamel> it was Bob Beckel
16:42 <CoderForLife> ah
16:43 <CoderForLife> is Bob from Cincy?
16:43 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [02:42:745] 09_-_I'm_Gonna_Be_Somebody
16:46 <xcamel> seems so..
16:53 <Soul_keeper> which day is xmas on ?
16:53 <CoderForLife> 25th =)
16:53 <PovAddict> &grab Soul_keeper
16:53 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
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16:53 <xcamel> some day ending in a "y"
16:54 * PovAddict looks for the 25th on his calendar
16:54 <PovAddict> "Jueves"
16:55 <Soul_keeper> ok appears so
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16:55 <xcamel> viente ciuatro?
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16:56 <PovAddict> that's 24th
16:56 <PovAddict> (mis-spelled :P)
16:56 <xcamel> viente cinco
16:56 <PovAddict> yup
16:56 <xcamel> indeed
16:56 <xcamel> temporary brain fart
16:57 <xcamel> still waiting for my hook-ed-on-phon-icks for es-pan-yol
16:58 <Soul_keeper> what about spanglish ?
16:58 <Soul_keeper> probably got one for spanglish and ebonix by now
16:59 <xcamel> spanglish I can do..
17:04 <CoderForLife> 1337
17:05 <xcamel> lol - shep smith did it again...
17:05 <xcamel> 'Barrod Balogjovich"
17:05 <xcamel> funny as hell..
17:06 <Romulus> Title: 24 (number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:07 <xcamel> and the show..
17:08 <xcamel> should have just called him "Haywood Jablome"
17:08 <PovAddict> somebody noted the article for "World of Warcraft" was longer than the article for "Shower", which meant something
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17:23 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn
17:26 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
17:28 <Rookie_69> I'm trying to get rigged up for Prime Grid Challenge, but seem to be about 4" shy on one video cable. Anybody got a wire stretcher?
17:30 <PovAddict> "hell is British cuisine, French equipment, German bureaucracy, an American lover and the Italian police, while paradise is French cuisine, German equipment, the British bureaucracy, the American police, and an Italian lover"
17:31 <Rookie_69> You'd think I'd have a video extension cable lying around here somewhere.
17:34 <Rookie_69> Ok. By dangling the KVM off of the back of the rack, I managed to get the cable to reach. :-)
17:35 <Rookie_69> Lol. Now I need a power cord that actually works.
17:43 <Rookie_69> Now that it has power, it's taking forever to boot up. :-(
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17:45 <FreeLarry58> humm how to update linux with new boinc? easiest way
17:45 <FreeLarry58> yum?
17:45 <Romulus> I guess yum is easy, FreeLarry58
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17:46 <FreeLarry58> k rommie you do it ;) not
17:46 <PovAddict> lol
17:46 <PovAddict> I wouldn't trust rommie wiht my ssh password
17:46 <FreeLarry58> neither would i
17:47 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict can you still get to the nix machines here?
17:48 <FreeLarry58> i don't think i fowarded port 22 to any machine yet
17:49 <FreeLarry58> just did to quad (103)
17:49 <wdsmia> Gah 50 min to go 9 miles
17:50 <FreeLarry58> hey doug you speeding again
17:50 <FreeLarry58> pov doing updates on quad for nix currently
17:50 <wdsmia> you have to move to speed
17:50 <CoderForLife> at least you were sitting down
17:51 <FreeLarry58> lol
17:51 <wdsmia> sit and shiver
17:52 <CoderForLife> that's better that the other way around
17:52 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 7.7°F / -13.5°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow and areas of freezing drizzle. New snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. East wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until (2 more messages)
17:52 <CoderForLife> &dict siver
17:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gcide: Siver \Siv"er\, v. i. To simmer. [Obs.] --Holland. [1913 Webster]
17:52 <wdsmia> &more
17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Intermittent light snow and areas of freezing drizzle early in the evening...then areas of freezing drizzle and a slight chance of light snow late in the evening. Areas of freezing fog after midnight. Low zero to 5 above. South wind near 5 mph shifting to the west after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High 15 (1 more message)
17:52 <wdsmia> &more
17:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 20. Northwest wind near 5 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon.; Winter Storm Watch, Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 17, 2008;
17:53 <CoderForLife> lol
17:53 <CoderForLife> I guess you do the reverse in the summer
17:54 <Rookie_69> Hi, Larry, Don, Doug, Nicolas... Did I miss anybody?
17:54 <FreeLarry58> hey Rookie_69
17:54 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn
17:57 <CoderForLife> well there's more names that that on the list...
18:00 <Rookie_69> ... that are active?
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18:00 <CoderForLife> the Walking Lurkers
18:00 <Rookie_69> I said Hi to Jay already...
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18:01 <CoderForLife> there - scared one off
18:01 <FreeLarry58> on laying flat lurkers here
18:03 <CoderForLife> undead connections
18:03 <KathrynM> Just woke up
18:04 <CoderForLife> You part of the undead?
18:05 <CoderForLife> Rookie_69 - got a live one for you here
18:05 * CoderForLife avoids the Tab Key of Death
18:05 <Rookie_69> Ok... Hi, Kathryn!
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18:24 <FreeLarry58> oh no i killed pov
18:27 <Rookie_69> Good for you.
18:27 <FreeLarry58> at least both nix updated to 6.2..15
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18:35 <xcamel> back again
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18:41 <wdsmia> 1,000,293 on Rosetta :)
18:42 <FreeLarry58> good job
18:42 * FreeLarry58 just tried to install network printer on linux - hope it works
18:42 <xcamel> congrats..
18:43 <wdsmia> 8 projects over 1M :)
18:44 <FreeLarry58> if i had half of your resources i might be closer
18:44 <FreeLarry58> well printer at least works in black in white even tho it color - at least a step in right direction ;)
18:45 <FreeLarry58> don't have right drivers for it
18:46 <FreeLarry58> getting close to 1 mill on second project doug - einstien by end of month
18:46 <FreeLarry58> hopefully
18:46 <wdsmia> working on 1M on LHC next
18:47 <FreeLarry58> i noticed you were close - but they slow on wu's
18:48 <wdsmia> yup
18:49 <xcamel> if lhc ever hands out enough work
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18:50 <FreeLarry58> darn einstien not till end of next month for milestone
18:51 <wdsmia> HAPPY BIRTHDAY! GLENN
18:53 <Rookie_69> Frag off!
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18:54 <xcamel> elfing himself again?
18:57 <Soul_keeper> where is the seti enhanced website ?
18:58 <Rookie_69> Berkeley.
18:58 <Romulus> Title: Seti@Home optimized science apps and information (at lunatics.kwsn.net)
18:58 <Soul_keeper> nevermind
19:01 <Soul_keeper> awesome ssse3 support
19:08 <Soul_keeper> hmmm apears i already had it installed ...
19:08 <xcamel> hmmm.. should check to see where the snow is..
19:09 <Rookie_69> Amazing how stuff happens when you're not paying attention.
19:09 <wdsmia> Its here
19:09 <xcamel> from boston to DesMoines
19:09 <xcamel> looks like it's gonna get kinda white
19:10 <Rookie_69> &divert snow.
19:10 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Are you daft?
19:10 <wdsmia> white and 30F is ok... white and 7F sucks
19:11 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw
19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 32.0Â°F / 0.0Â°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 11.5mph / 18.5km/h | Updated: 8:11 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries and rain showers ending early this evening then cloudy. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light overnight. Low -6C(21F).; Wednesday - Cloudy. Snow at times (2 more messages)
19:11 <Rookie_69> &more
19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: heavy beginning late in the morning changing to rain late in the day. Snowfall amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) in the afternoon. High 2C(36F). Wednesday night rain ending in the evening then cloudy. Amount 5 to 10 mm. Wind southeast 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) in the evening. Temperature rising to (1 more message)
19:11 <Rookie_69> &more
19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: 4C(39F) in the evening then falling.; Thursday - Sunny. High 1C(34F).;
19:12 <Rookie_69> More wind.
19:13 <Rookie_69> Wind isn't so bad when there's no snow...
19:14 <wdsmia> snow isnt that bad when there's no wind
19:19 <Soul_keeper> you guys run simap ?
19:20 <xcamel> going to be a fun drive back from detroit in late january...
19:28 <Romulus> Title: Run SETI@home on your NVIDIA GPU (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
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19:29 <MTughan> This is just temporary. I'll get my Mac back up soon enough, but the Lenovo will do for now.
19:35 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, what video card you got ?
19:35 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Which comp?
19:36 <Romulus> Title: Run SETI@home on your NVIDIA GPU (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
19:36 <MTughan> I have an Intel GMA950, and Intel X4500, an ATI Radeon 9600, and a Radeon 3470.
19:36 <MTughan> No Nvidia.
19:39 <FreeLarry58> Rookie_69 didn't you know &divert command brings the weather to you
19:48 <Soul_keeper> those nvidia cards are massive
19:49 <xcamel> and enough computing power to take over LHC
19:49 <Soul_keeper> does anyone in here run a project on one ?
19:50 <Soul_keeper> i just wanna see how many credits they are getting
19:56 <xcamel> "Since 1968, '911' has promised safety from crime"
19:57 <xcamel> "Since 1940, the 1911 has delivered on that promise"
20:01 <Romulus> Title: GPU Technology for Accelerated Computing (at ati.amd.com)
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20:03 <PovAddict> I see dead people
20:04 <xcamel> gotta love a high standard... except for the nasty slide bite, and a bruised wrist with the +p ammo
20:05 <xcamel> My son just bought an airweight .38 stubby
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20:10 <Soul_keeper> fun
20:10 <xcamel> got to stick with the .38 swc's otherwise your wrist will be in a cast.
20:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah their profits fell big time today, they need your money
20:28 <FreeLarry58> yeah i finally got color printing on the nix quad core machine
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20:32 <xcamel> now I'm going to see if I can go back to fc9
20:32 <xcamel> fat chance, eh?
20:32 <FreeLarry58> ?? still on fc8 here
20:33 <xcamel> fc10 is very strange
20:33 <FreeLarry58> never got a working iso for fc9
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20:40 <xcamel> dunno if it will backtrack though
20:41 <xcamel> boincmgr fails in 10, with kde and "the new X"
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21:52 <granpa_paul> well fish said in the thread noon central
21:52 <granpa_paul> crap
22:02 <Rookie_69> Dammit... I fell asleep.
22:03 <Rookie_69> NN.
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22:18 <Soul_keeper> the candy section at target is where all the hot chicks hang out
22:19 <PovAddict> you have been monitoring them?
22:20 <Soul_keeper> yeah was just there
22:20 <Soul_keeper> well first i went to home depot and bought an axe, then went to the bank. then went to target and stared at hot chicks, then went to circuit city and stared at lcd monitors
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