IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-12-19

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00:15 <MTughan> Can someone explain this to me?

00:15 <Romulus> <> (at

00:18 <FreeLarry58> sounds a bit like old time D&D game updated to comp realtime internet play

00:18 <FreeLarry58> with one member hosting and being realtime DM

00:18 <FreeLarry58> just different titles

00:19 <MTughan> What's D&D?

00:19 <FreeLarry58> dungeon and dragons

00:19 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

00:19 <FreeLarry58> or maybe world of warcraft more apt nowdays

00:19 <MTughan> I suppose that's possible. I still don't really get the reference though.

00:20 <FreeLarry58> think it poking at us old farts

00:20 <MTughan> Heh.

00:20 <FreeLarry58> haven't played d&d since i was 23 -- lets see 28 yrs ago

00:21 <FreeLarry58> dang has it been that long already

00:21 <MTughan> lol

00:22 <MTughan> 1980?

00:22 <FreeLarry58> around then

00:22 <MTughan> That's 28 years.

00:22 <FreeLarry58> was on my first shipboard assignment then and lots of time at sea

00:23 <MTughan> Wow... My hard drive seems to be making a lot of vibration. I just touch it slightly, and I can feel the difference in the floor.

00:23 <FreeLarry58> bearing probably going -- get it backed up asap

00:23 <MTughan> That's the odd thing. It's a backup drive. And it's not that old.

00:24 <MTughan> Or rather, the ironic thing.

00:24 <FreeLarry58> doesn't matter if slight imblance exist on disk weight will cause rapid bearing failure

00:25 <FreeLarry58> especially if 7200 rpm or faster

00:26 <MTughan> Oh, manufactured in November 2006. Older than I thought.

00:26 <MTughan> Anyway, would the fact that it's mounted in an external enclosure magnify that?

00:26 <FreeLarry58> it could

00:26 <MTughan> It's a Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm SATA drive.

00:27 <FreeLarry58> have noticed external drives subjected to a lot more abuse so more damage can occure

00:27 <MTughan> I can always see if I can hook it up to a SATA port sometime soon to get SMART information.

00:27 <FreeLarry58> true

00:28 <MTughan> Enclosure has eSATA ports, but I don't have anything with those available.

00:28 <MTughan> Or more than one SATA port that can be converted.

00:28 <FreeLarry58> aint that the way of it ;)

00:28 <MTughan> And seems that SMART isn't supported over USB.

00:28 <FreeLarry58> nope

00:29 <MTughan> I've been thinking about getting a bigger hard drive anyway, so I could back it up to that if I do.

00:29 <FreeLarry58> that is true

00:30 <MTughan> And I'm usually careful with my hard drives, internal or external.

00:30 <FreeLarry58> lol i try to be  (looks at two dents in walls from flying drives0

00:30 <MTughan> rofl

00:31 <MTughan> Well, I usually try. Sometimes I forget. (looks at the three dead 2.5" drives)

00:31 <FreeLarry58> ahh notebooks

00:31 <MTughan> Two have hardware issues, I think the third might just have a corrupted sector, but I haven't tried again.

00:31 <FreeLarry58> i wont talk about them

00:32 <MTughan> Yeah, I can get angry... Keyboards will last my anger. Hard drives... Not so much.

00:32 <MTughan> Although the first one was because my laptop slipped off my binder in school and fell two feet to the floor.

00:33 <MTughan> I've done worse with the Lenovo (actually accidentally tossed it about three feet down onto really hard carpet), but it's been fine.

00:33 * FreeLarry58 looks at three kbs that are in at least two pieces in corner - nope hd last better here

00:33 <FreeLarry58> ouch to lappy

00:33 <MTughan> Heh, I just break the feet off of them. I like the propping feet up, but you know I've broken it in when one's missing.

00:34 <MTughan> Now, it was in sleep at the time too, so that helped.

00:34 <FreeLarry58> daughters laptop looks like its been used as childs toy -- because the granddaughter thought it was one

00:34 <MTughan> Although the battery came out, so it shut off.

00:34 <MTughan> Yeah, that gets expensive...

00:35 <FreeLarry58> very at least it operated enough for a backup of hd so data wasn't lost - less expensive to replace lappy then repair as missing keys and screen only 80% functional

00:35 <FreeLarry58> we won't talk about what i saw in the ports

00:36 <MTughan> 80% functional: max 80% brightness, or 20% dead pixels?

00:36 <FreeLarry58> 80% of screen as cracked in several places

00:36 <MTughan> Eee...

00:36 <MTughan> And not the PC.

00:37 <FreeLarry58> just missing keys -- wonder if the peanut butter inside help

00:37 <FreeLarry58> helped

00:39 <MTughan> Worst I've ever had with a laptop is on the Mac, a sign of a failing motherboard... Hard as hell to boot the machine, and when you get it to boot, don't touch the screen. It has to be in exactly the right angle.

00:39 <MTughan> Or it kernel panicked.

00:39 <FreeLarry58> yuck

00:39 <MTughan> It was bad news for BOINC crunching. That motherboard has since been junked.

00:40 <FreeLarry58> ah well think its time to take one last look at the 6 inches of snw here then lay down

00:40 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

00:40 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

00:40 <MTughan> Night.

00:53 <MTughan> All right, I'm off to bed too...

00:53 <MTughan> &nn all

00:53 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

01:06 <zombie67> I see, a day after posting 6.5.0 (for the mac), they finally announce they launched it.

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01:41 <linear_shift> &weather mesa az

01:42 <Romulus> linear_shift: Temperature: 46.3F / 7.9C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1023.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy and cooler. Lows 34 to 43. Northeast wind around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light after midnight.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 56 to 61. Light wind in the morning... becoming southwest around 5 (1 more message)

01:42 <linear_shift> &more

01:42 <Romulus> linear_shift: mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 33 to 42. West wind 5 to 10 mph in the evening...becoming northeast after midnight.;

01:42 <linear_shift> &more

01:42 <Romulus> linear_shift: Error: That's all, there is no more.

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02:01 <efc> &wx 30625

02:01 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 59F / 15C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with areas of fog in the evening...then widespread dense fog after midnight. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times. Lows in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds shifting to the south after midnight.; (1 more message)

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03:47 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.8F / 1.0C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Rain likely with a chance of freezing rain late this evening...then occasional rain. Little or no ice accumulation. Lows in the lower 30s. Temperatures rising into the upper 30s. East winds around 5 (2 more messages)

03:47 <CoderForLife> &more

03:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph...becoming southeast with gusts up to 20 mph late. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Friday - Rain. Highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming west in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday Night - Cloudy. A chance of rain in the evening. Lows around 30. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming north 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 50 (1 more message)

03:48 <CoderForLife> &more

03:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.;

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04:29 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast

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04:40 <ELGono> morning

04:42 <CoderForLife> hello El

04:42 <CoderForLife> +gono

04:42 * CoderForLife wonders who moved the Enter key

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04:49 <ELGono> hehe

04:50 <ELGono> also have my problems with the small enter key on this keyboard here

04:51 * CoderForLife studies prediction markets

04:52 <ELGono> my searches for a car tonight

04:53 * ELGono really needs &coffee

04:53 <CoderForLife> &coffee

04:53 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

04:53 <ELGono> thx mate

04:53 <CoderForLife> twas ez

04:54 <deprecated> &wx 98038

04:54 <Romulus> deprecated: Temperature: 25.5F / -3.6C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows 15 to 22. Light wind.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the 20s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 11 to 18. East wind 5 to 5 mph after midnight.; High Wind (1 more message)

04:54 <deprecated> &more

04:54 <Romulus> deprecated: Watch for King County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on December 21, 2008; Special Weather Statement for King County in effect until 5:00 AM PST on December 19, 2008;

04:55 <CoderForLife> need some snow, deprecated?

04:56 <deprecated> Got enough for now. The High wind watch is for sustained winds to 70 with gusts to 90 on Sunday

04:56 <deprecated> Should be a good time

04:56 <CoderForLife> yeow - that'll pile it up

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04:57 <CoderForLife> much of that and there won't be many maples left standing

04:58 <deprecated> Nature balancing pressue through the mountain passes. Unfortunately I live in one of the paths.

04:59 <CoderForLife> that is indeed unfortunate

05:00 <deprecated> Got to stock up on gas for the generator.

05:00 <CoderForLife> good idea

05:06 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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06:11 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 18.8F / -7.3C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A chance of snow early in the morning...then a slight chance of snow late in the morning. High in the mid 20s. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low around 15. (1 more message)

06:11 <wdsmia> &more

06:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northeast wind near 5 mph shifting to the east after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. High in the lower 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to the northwest 5 to 10 mph with gusts to around 20 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 9:00 AM CST on December 19, 2008;

06:11 <CoderForLife> morning Doug

06:12 <wdsmia> Mornin Don

06:12 <CoderForLife> tgif

06:13 <wdsmia> indeed

06:13 <wdsmia> &coffee

06:13 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

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06:48 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

06:48 <hawmps> 'lo

06:58 <hawmps> you getting rain or snow?

07:04 <CoderForLife> pouring rain

07:04 <CoderForLife> 40F locally

07:05 * CoderForLife cracks open his office window to listen to the liquid white noise

07:29 <CoderForLife> hmm  a small bit of thunder

07:32 <hawmps> all that is turning into show here..

07:32 <hawmps> &wx 12074

07:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 19.3F / -7.1C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1027.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - A slight chance of snow this morning...then snow this afternoon. Snow may be heavy at times this afternoon. Snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Highs in the mid 20s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 (2 more messages)

07:32 <hawmps> &more

07:32 <Romulus> hawmps: percent.; Tonight - Snow in the evening...then snow likely after midnight. Snow may be heavy at times in the evening. Total snow accumulation of 6 to 12 inches. Lows around 12. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. North winds around 5 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 1:00 AM EST on (1 more message)

07:32 <hawmps> &more

07:32 <Romulus> hawmps: December 20, 2008;

07:42 <hawmps> yuk

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07:59 <CoderForLife> I'd send that shipment back, hawmps

08:22 <hawmps> I wish..

08:25 <CoderForLife> looks like they might get a loan to finish building your Jeep

08:27 <hawmps> current rumor is that they will finish any vehicles that have been assigned a VIN number...

08:27 <CoderForLife> good

08:27 <hawmps> as long as the line parts hold out...

08:27 <CoderForLife> there is that...

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08:30 <CoderForLife> welcome to w@#% wdsmia_w

08:32 <hawmps> snow only one county away now..

08:33 <wdsmia_w> snow moving out of here... you can have it

08:42 <CoderForLife> was just outside in the rain - some landsliding of uncompacted fill on the other parts of hillside are occuring - as expected but unwanted

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10:31 <CoderForLife> off to Home Desolate for some odds and ends

10:31 <CoderForLife> laterz

10:32 <hawmps> Home Despot, you mean...

10:33 <CoderForLife> I accept your assessment as authoritative =)

10:33 <hawmps> The unacceptable alternative to Slowes

10:34 <CoderForLife> yep - they both have a certain odor about them

10:34 <hawmps> snowing furiously at about 5000' AGL.

10:35 <CoderForLife> hopefully i can come away with an acceptable clothes rod for the laundry room

10:35 <CoderForLife> ttyl

10:35 <hawmps> the combo clothes rack/rods are nice..

10:35 <CoderForLife> just need a rod under the new shelf

10:36 <CoderForLife> over the utility tub

10:36 * CoderForLife slinks off to HD

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11:40 <MTughan> Holy crap... How did I pick up a 1.3GHz Celeron proc as a running mate for a WU on E@H?

11:44 <PovAdct_w> at least it's not my old 400mhz

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11:48 <MTughan> The WUs are taking about 13 hours on my 2GHz.

11:48 <MTughan> I think they're basically the same architecture, so...

11:49 <MTughan> &math 13 * 1.3 / 2

11:49 <Romulus> MTughan: 8.45

11:49 <MTughan> Wrong way...

11:49 <MTughan> &math 13 * 2 / 1.3

11:49 <Romulus> MTughan: 20

11:49 <hawmps> 'lo Mike

11:49 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

11:49 <PovAdct_w> not that bad

11:49 <MTughan> No, it's not...

11:49 <Tank_Master> howdy hawmps

11:49 <MTughan> So why is the average turnaround time 8.72 days?

11:49 <MTughan> 'lo TM

11:49 <Tank_Master> MT!

11:50 <MTughan> We're currently in the process of being snowed in...

11:50 <Tank_Master> nice

11:50 <PovAdct_w> snowed over :)

11:50 <Tank_Master> we got a dusting last night

11:50 <Tank_Master> and its 26

11:50 <MTughan> Started at 7AM last night, I think we've got at least an inch so far.

11:50 <Tank_Master> so with yesterday's melt...

11:50 <MTughan> 7AM this morning*

11:51 <Tank_Master> !wx 97123

11:51 <MTughan> Supposed to continue to about 3PM. Just about noon now.

11:51 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

11:51 <Tank_Master> &more

11:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

11:51 <Tank_Master> &more

11:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

11:51 <Tank_Master> &more

11:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 31.1F / -0.5C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Snow showers likely in the morning...then a chance of snow showers in the afternoon. Local 1 inch snow accumulation...except 1 to 3 inches at higher elevations. Highs 30 to 35. Light wind.; Tonight - (2 more messages)

11:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Partly cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers. Lows around 20. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - A slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs around 30. East wind increasing to 15 to 30 mph...except 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 45 mph near The Gorge.; Winter Weather Advisory, Winter Storm Watch for (1 more message)

11:51 <Tank_Master> &more

11:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Washington County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on December 21, 2008;

11:51 <MTughan> &wx YYZ

11:51 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 16°F / -9°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Heavy Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM EST; Today - Snow at times heavy and local blowing snow. Amount 15 cm(5.8 in). Wind east 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). High -5C(23F).; Tonight - Snow ending early this evening then cloudy with 60 percent (1 more message)

11:51 <MTughan> &more

11:51 <Romulus> MTughan: chance of flurries. Local blowing snow early this evening. Wind north 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light near midnight. Low -14C(6F).; Saturday - Cloudy. High -8C(17F).;

11:51 <Tank_Master> how can there be snow showers if there are no clouds?

11:52 <MTughan> Hmm?

11:52 <MTughan> It says the conditions are overcast for you.

11:52 <Tank_Master> its saying snow showers for this morning

11:52 <Tank_Master> but looking out, there no clouds

11:53 * MTughan misses proper speakers

11:54 <Tank_Master> yeah, but looking out...

11:54 <Tank_Master> foggy, but clear

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12:35 <CoderForLife> back, for a moment

12:35 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

12:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 61.1F / 16.2C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1002.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.4mph / 3.9km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Lows around 30. West winds 10 to 15 mph with (1 more message)

12:36 <CoderForLife> my local temp says 65F

12:36 <CoderForLife> pretty breezy right now

12:36 <CoderForLife> &more

12:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gusts up to 30 mph...becoming north 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Cloudy. Much colder with highs in the upper 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wind Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on December 19, 2008;

12:36 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

12:36 <CoderForLife> hey there Michael

12:37 <MTughan> We've got lots of snow and wind ATM...

12:37 <MTughan> And I've got a curious cat on my lap...

12:37 <CoderForLife> you're in the thick of those storms tracking across

12:37 <CoderForLife> can your cat Code?

12:38 <MTughan> Unfortunately, no...

12:38 <MTughan> At this point, I believe her human equivalent years put her up around 85.

12:38 <CoderForLife> that's too bad

12:38 <CoderForLife> that means she's fit to do QA

12:38 <MTughan> 17 and a half at this point.

12:38 <CoderForLife> or be a game tester

12:39 <MTughan> lol

12:39 <MTughan> The most she ever does with computers though is walk across the keyboards or sit down in front of a screen.

12:40 <CoderForLife> a pseudo-random data generator

12:40 <MTughan> Pseudo random, or random?

12:40 <CoderForLife> given the span of a paw, pseudo

12:47 <CoderForLife> looks like the world hasn't quite ended yet - I guess I have time to go get a haircut

12:47 <CoderForLife> bbl

12:47 <MTughan> Heh. Bye

12:50 <hawmps> snowing very hard now...

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14:05 <Tank_Master> getting fluries here

14:08 <hawmps> serious snow now....

14:17 <CoderForLife> back from the barber

14:17 <Tank_Master> wb

14:17 <CoderForLife> it's marvelous outside - 65F, breezy

14:18 <CoderForLife> hawmps: is "serious snow" heavier than "snowing very hard"?

14:19 <hawmps> visibility < 100 yds

14:19 <CoderForLife> um "blinding"

14:32 <hawmps> shows up pretty good on the llama cams

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14:58 * CoderForLife finally sees the llama cam hit and starts looking

14:58 <CoderForLife> er hint

15:00 * CoderForLife listens to the bumper music between Rush and Hannity

15:01 <CoderForLife> "The Hut of Baba Yaga" iirc

15:06 <CoderForLife> spork - Russian spammer trying to relay through my mail server

15:07 <CoderForLife> forging name as

15:09 <CoderForLife> listening to Blago

15:10 <CoderForLife> Sounds like an egotist

15:23 <xcamel> re-hi

15:26 <xcamel> politician... "I did not have sex..."

15:31 <CoderForLife> roads bad?

15:36 <xcamel> 45 min to get home...

15:36 <CoderForLife> about double?

15:36 <xcamel> yup

15:37 <xcamel> other drivers not very bright as usual

15:37 <xcamel> bbiab

15:37 <CoderForLife> yeah - that's typical

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17:00 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

17:00 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 9.9°F / -12.3°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 13.0mph / 20.9km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. A few flurries beginning overnight. Local amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind northwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) becoming north 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening. Low (1 more message)

17:01 <Rookie_69> &more

17:01 <Romulus> Rookie_69: -13C(8F) with temperature rising to -9C(15F) by morning.; Saturday - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Wind north 20 km/h (12 mph). High -4C(24F). Saturday night clearing in the evening. Low -9C(15F).; Sunday - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of snow. High 0C(32F).;

17:02 <Rookie_69> Chili today :-( Not hot tamale :-((

17:03 <Rookie_69> ... :-( :-(

17:04 <xcamel> almost 5" of snow, but winding down quickly

17:05 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:07 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

17:10 <xcamel> temps dropped to 15F with the snow.. burrrrr...

17:10 <Rookie_69> That seems to be my current temp. It's chilly out.

17:11 <Rookie_69> Oops... that's tomorrow morning... 8F here now.

17:12 <Rookie_69> No snow to act as an insulator.

17:14 <Rookie_69> I wonder if the roads will do their spring dance all winter long like they did last year?

17:14 <xcamel> cold is one thing, but your "boston wind chill" is brutal.

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17:15 <efc> Moo

17:15 <Rookie_69> Moo.

17:17 <xcamel> arf.

17:20 <efc> I chickened out on buying that monitor again last night

17:20 <efc> Got to reading and there were a lot of people complaining about it.. but then, they tend to complain about everything..

17:21 <Rookie_69> Blood pressure monitor? You really should...

17:22 <efc> I did have a dream about checking my blood pressure last night.

17:22 <efc> Unfortunately, it did NOT involve nurses etc

17:24 <efc> I'm still looking for other Roombas to have mine bred to, btw

17:24 <Rookie_69> Dad always used to show high blood pressure when the nurse took it... then one day the doctor took it and it was normal. I guess the nurse just excited him.

17:24 <efc> You'd think that would umm, lower it

17:25 <Rookie_69> It lowers the blood, not the pressure. ;-)

17:26 <efc> If you increase the area of confinement, witht he same volume of fluid, the pressure should reduce?

17:26 <efc> I never really studied all that Pascals pressure junk

17:27 <Rookie_69> Cooking with Pasquale?

17:32 <Rookie_69> Don't remember him using a pressure cooker, but it's possible.

17:35 <Rookie_69> Oh... I see your point... Maybe she was an ugly nurse.

17:35 *** kathryn_ is now known as KathrynM

17:37 <Rookie_69> But that's enough about that... There seems to be a lady present.

17:40 * Rookie_69 ducks in advance.

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17:51 <Rookie_69> At least somebody in my own time zone has decided to show up. :-)

17:52 <Rookie_69> Wrong hemisphere, but what the hay.

17:52 <Rookie_69> ... or is it hey?

17:54 <Rookie_69> Heck.

17:56 * Rookie_69 waits for potatoes to finish boiling...

17:57 <Rookie_69> ... impatiently...

17:58 <Tank_Master> :P

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17:58 <Tank_Master> KM!

17:58 <Tank_Master> wazz up?

18:03 <Rookie_69> &eightball will Rookie eat too much and fall asleep in the sleazy chair again?

18:03 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Unlikely.

18:03 <Rookie_69> Hmm...

18:03 <Rookie_69> A lot he knows.

18:04 <CoderForLife> mbak

18:06 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

18:06 <wdsmia> *lo Donald

18:06 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn

18:07 <CoderForLife> hello Dougold

18:07 <MTughan> 'lo Rookie, Doug, CFL

18:08 <CoderForLife> hello Michael

18:08 <wdsmia> *lo  Michael

18:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, Michael.

18:08 <xcamel> g'nite JohnBoy..

18:08 <xcamel> oh.. wrong timeline

18:08 <MTughan> It be cold out there...

18:08 <MTughan> 'lo Jaya

18:09 <MTughan> Jay*

18:09 <MTughan> Hmm, I like the sound of Jaya...

18:09 <Rookie_69> Go for a skate on the Rideau.

18:09 <MTughan> It's a bit of a drive. I'm in Toronto.

18:09 <Rookie_69> Stop messing with my brain!!!

18:09 <xcamel> probably not really frozen yet..

18:10 <MTughan> Took VIA rail back this Tuesday.

18:10 <Rookie_69> ... Humber?

18:10 <MTughan> Hmm?

18:11 <MTughan> I'm not anywhere near the Humber River...

18:11 <CoderForLife> Ho Hum

18:12 <xcamel> now down to 14.. I'll be damned if I'm going to go out and clear the driveway now...

18:12 <CoderForLife> You'll be frozen

18:12 <MTughan> Wow, it's that cold here too apparently...

18:12 <MTughan> &wx YYZ

18:12 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 12°F / -11°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM EST; Tonight - Snow at times heavy ending early this evening then cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Amount 2 to 4 cm(0.8 to 1.6 in). Blowing snow early this evening. Wind east 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (2 more messages)

18:13 <MTughan> &more

18:13 <Romulus> MTughan: (31 mph) becoming north 30 km/h (19 mph) early this evening then light near midnight. Low -15C(5F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. High -8C(17F). Saturday night cloudy with 40 percent chance of flurries in the evening. Snow at times heavy beginning near midnight. Amount 5 cm(2.0 in). Wind northeast 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light near midnight. Low -10C(14F) with temperature rising (1 more message)

18:13 <MTughan> &more

18:13 <Romulus> MTughan: to -4C(24F) by morning.; Sunday - Periods of snow. Local blowing snow. Windy. High -2C(28F).;

18:16 <MTughan> Dinner. bbl

18:17 <xcamel> rnjoy..

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18:19 <sethy> ohi

18:19 <xcamel> &wx 12074

18:19 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 13.8F / -10.1C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 12.0mph / 19.3km/h ; Tonight - Snow this evening...then snow likely after midnight. Total snow accumulation of 6 to 12 inches. Lows around 13. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow (2 more messages)

18:19 <CoderForLife> hey sethy

18:19 <xcamel> &more

18:19 <Romulus> xcamel: showers in the morning. Highs in the lower 20s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow after midnight. Cold with lows around 10 above. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Winter Storm Watch, Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 1:00 AM EST on December 20, 2008; Special Weather Statement (1 more message)

18:19 <xcamel> &more

18:19 <Romulus> xcamel: for Saratoga County in effect until 6:30 PM EST on December 19, 2008;

18:20 <xcamel> 'lo sethy

18:20 <xcamel> Tell Spit happy holidays if you speak to her...

18:20 <CoderForLife> yes, please

18:21 <sethy> i'll try call her tomorrow

18:21 <Rookie_69> Me too, please.

18:21 <wdsmia> dido

18:21 * sethy makes list

18:21 <sethy> ditto wdsmia

18:22 <wdsmia> hands are still frozen from clearing the drive

18:22 <sethy> :(

18:22 <Rookie_69> Excuses...

18:22 <CoderForLife> aren't you glad you stopped in sethy to get all this work to do?

18:22 <sethy> yep

18:22 <sethy> but i had a question in mind

18:22 <CoderForLife> ok, you earend it

18:22 <CoderForLife> er earned

18:22 <Rookie_69> Now he wants us to think...

18:23 <Rookie_69> 42!

18:23 <sethy> mainly aimed at people who was active in the new year channel last year/this year

18:24 <sethy> am i going to be the main feature of the year, i.e. most active and stuff

18:24 <sethy> ?

18:24 <sethy> i was admin of freenode for the day :D

18:25 * sethy looks at PovAddict

18:25 <PovAddict> is it open yet?

18:25 <sethy> i dont know

18:25 <PovAddict> nope

18:25 <sethy> but when it does, please notify me imediately

18:25 <PovAddict> still redirects to #defocus

18:25 <sethy> i'm going to be the bot again :D

18:26 <PovAddict> I gotta write a bot to log the channel with millisecond timestamps

18:27 <sethy> i have many things to do

18:27 <Rookie_69> You need another channel for New Years??? What's wrong with this one?

18:27 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: the other one has hundreds of users usually

18:27 <PovAddict> and it goes insane

18:27 <Rookie_69> Like I said...

18:27 <PovAddict> lots of people IRCing drunk adds to the fun

18:28 <PovAddict> as soon as it's new years in any timezone in the world, the channel gets a few dozen messages per second

18:28 <xcamel> bitbucket drunks are not funny

18:29 <sethy> and i am the main feature of the channel :D

18:29 <sethy> do we still have logs from last year nicolas

18:29 <sethy> ?

18:30 <PovAddict> I might have then somewhere

18:30 <PovAddict> cba search

18:30 <sethy> cba digging out hard drive

18:30 <PovAddict> and for that channel 1 second accuracy of timestamps isn't enough

18:31 <sethy> neither is milliseconds for us guys in GMT

18:31 <sethy> of you guys in PST

18:31 <sethy> or*

18:37 <sethy> PovAddict: used VLC Lately?

18:37 <Rookie_69> Pacific Salmon Time?

18:37 <sethy> Sushi

18:37 <sethy> time

18:37 <PovAddict> yes sethy

18:37 <sethy> also, VLC has a hat on the cone (christmas)

18:37 <sethy>

18:38 <Rookie_69> VLC plays almost most videos:-)

18:39 <MTughan> And for those it doesn't, there's MPlayer.

18:39 <sethy> VLC plays my mom

18:39 <MTughan> Or iTunes/QuickTime (for DRM'd files :( )

18:39 <MTughan> lol sethy

18:39 <sethy> VLC does DRM files amrite?

18:39 <MTughan> No, it can't.

18:40 <sethy> :(

18:40 <MTughan> Well, I guess it depends on the DRM. I was thinking FairPlay myself, because it's the one that I've gotten most intimate with over the past few days.

18:40 <MTughan> Think stripping it from 80+ songs by importing into iMovie, exporting, then converting to FLAC.

18:41 <sethy> FairGame?

18:41 <MTughan>

18:41 <Romulus> Title: FairPlay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

18:41 <sethy> *.XM files FTW

18:41 * sethy looks at PovAddict

18:41 <sethy> amrite?

18:42 <MTughan> I like FLAC myself. I had problems with OGG, although that could've been the encoder.

18:44 <sethy> FLAC are nice

18:44 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander off

18:44 <CoderForLife> gn all

18:44 <MTughan> Night CFL.

18:44 <MTughan> sethy: Yeah, but just make sure you have lots of space. About 35MB per file.

18:45 <sethy> night cfl

18:45 <sethy> yeah i exported some Rage into high level flac

18:45 <sethy> came out about 29MB

18:46 <MTughan> I hope to move all of my library to either OGG or FLAC at some point. Most of it is 160kbps MP3 right now.

18:46 <sethy> movies belong in AVI

18:47 <MTughan> What codec?

18:47 <sethy> i dunno

18:47 <sethy> just nice AVI

18:48 <MTughan> AVI is just a container format, can contain anything.

18:50 <sethy> your mom?

18:50 <Romulus> hmm... Romulus's mom is 403'd, sethy

18:50 <MTughan> I like Xvid. Good compression, seems to be good quality.

18:50 <sethy> sugoii ne~~

18:50 <MTughan> Okay, that's one of the better Markovs I've seen...

18:51 * MTughan is fixing an Enzo Ferrari.

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18:52 <Rookie_69> Is that fast food?

18:53 <MTughan> No, a nice car.

18:53 <MTughan>

18:53 <Romulus> <> (at

18:53 <Rookie_69> I assumed you weren't doing a tune-up so...

18:54 <MTughan> Well, it's made of LEGO... :P

18:54 <MTughan> And that's a good point. It's not so much of a fix as a cleaning.

18:54 <PovAddict> VLC supports some DRM

18:54 <PovAddict> otherwise it wouldn't play DVDs

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19:01 <PovAddict> lol

19:01 <PovAddict> AMD = a fan

19:01 <PovAddict> Air Movement Device

19:02 <sethy> DAS = Dust Accumulation System

19:02 <sethy> in german that would be

19:02 <sethy> das DAS

19:02 <xcamel> wow 93 score in snooker

19:03 <PovAddict> dust accumulation system? a computer!

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19:11 <efc> remoo

19:11 <xcamel> retroarf

19:13 <Rookie_69> Backwards dog?

19:14 <efc> Roomba trying the guest bedroom again after it ate a shawl the first time

19:14 <Rookie_69> It ate your shawl???

19:14 <efc> Its sensors were bigger than its dirt compartment

19:15 <Soul_keeper> note to self: 100,000 lines of scrollback per tab in xchat is why it's been taking me half an hour to join chans ...

19:15 <PovAddict> xchat is stupid for not auto-trimming how much chat it actually loads in the window

19:15 <PovAddict> konversation loads like the last 10 lines from the log

19:16 <Rookie_69> Walmart scrolls back prices!

19:16 <PovAddict> in soviet wallmart, prices scroll YOU back

19:16 * PovAddict looks at sethy

19:16 <sethy> ?

19:16 <PovAddict> soviet russia

19:16 <sethy> in soviet russia

19:16 * sethy looks at PovAddict

19:17 <PovAddict> PovAddict looks at you?

19:17 * efc saw a cute girl at Wal-Mart but did nothing

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19:17 <xcamel> waiting for a sale?

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19:17 <Rookie_69> Silly Bugger.

19:18 * efc supresses remark about getting her half off

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19:18 <xcamel> getting any off is a good start..

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19:22 <deprecated> &wx 98038

19:22 <Romulus> deprecated: Temperature: 26.1F / -3.3C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 20s. West wind to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid teens to mid 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Windy. Partly sunny. Highs in the 20s. (1 more message)

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19:22 <deprecated> &more

19:22 <Romulus> deprecated: Southeast wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 50 mph.; High Wind Warning for King County in effect until 4:00 PM PST on December 21, 2008;

19:23 <wdsmia> &zipinfo 98038

19:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: City: Maple Valley; State: WA; County: King; Area Code: 425; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 47.4066 (North); Longitude: 122.0185 (West)

19:24 <deprecated> 30 miles    East of Seattle.

19:25 <deprecated> in the path of a small wind event Mother Nature has planned for Saturday night. Sustained winds 50 to 70 and gusts to 90 possible

19:25 <wdsmia> fun

19:26 <deprecated> we are supposed to plan to be without power for a week and be sure to have gas for the chain saw.

19:26 <xcamel> that's our 3rd storm.. be here for xmas eve..

19:27 <deprecated> Oh, and tempratures are headded to the single digits.

19:29 <efc> &wx 30625

19:29 <Rookie_69> Southeast on my map.

19:29 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 68F / 20C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy dense fog. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. A 30 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest (1 more message)

19:29 * efc kicks back

19:31 <xcamel> 68 ??

19:31 <Romulus> 68 is a strange year... remember moving back to the USA in the middle of it, xcamel

19:31 <MTughan> NS is rather warm...

19:31 <MTughan> Nvm, wherever efc is.

19:31 <MTughan> &zipinfo 30625

19:31 <Romulus> MTughan: City: Buckhead; State: GA; County: Morgan; Area Code: 706; Time Zone: EST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 33.5239 (North); Longitude: 83.3428 (West)

19:32 <xcamel> soviet central georgia...

19:32 <MTughan> Georgia's rather warm then. Makes some sense, considering how far south that is.

19:32 <efc> Sieze the means of production, comrade.

19:32 <Soul_keeper> apparently  --enable-threads=pth   is identical to  --enable-threads=posix

19:32 <Soul_keeper> anyone disagree ?

19:33 <MTughan> What program?

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19:34 <MTughan> &google pth posix

19:34 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.17 seconds: GNU Pth - The GNU Portable Threads: <>; GNU Pth - The GNU Portable Threads: <>; [ANNOUNCE] GNU Pth 2.0.0: <>; pthread(3) - POSIX .1c Threading API of GNU Pth: <>; (3 more messages)

19:34 <Rookie_69> This typing is getting hard on the fingers...

19:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19.7F / -6.8C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1019.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low 15 to 20. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny early in the morning then becoming cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. (2 more messages)

19:35 <wdsmia> &more

19:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: High in the mid 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the west 5 to 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Bitterly cold. A 20 percent chance of snow in the evening. Blowing snow through the night. Breezy. Low zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph with (1 more message)

19:35 <wdsmia> &more

19:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: gusts to around 35 mph. Wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero.;

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19:38 <Soul_keeper> brb

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19:42 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

19:43 <Soul_keeper> latest threaded version of xchat, not really seeing it use other cores

19:43 <efc> Do most video cards do dual link DVI? Like my old geforce4..

19:44 <Soul_keeper> appears it uses up to 2 cores, mostly just 1 tho

19:45 <efc> I would hope IRC wouldn't take too many cores..

19:45 <Soul_keeper> yeah but i'm crazy

19:45 <Soul_keeper> i like having a 100,000 line text buffer per tab

19:45 <Soul_keeper> so i can search it for keywords

19:45 <Soul_keeper> seems ok now :)

19:46 <Soul_keeper> gotta multithread my Terminal now :)

19:50 <xcamel> what version of xchat?

19:52 <efc> reminds me of the talk from microsoft of having Office using a whole cluster of computers to do.. pretty much what it does now

19:54 <Rookie_69> I stepped outside for about half a second... Brr! I'm glad I don't have to go outside for a smoke.

20:06 * MTughan is watching Airplane! bbl

20:07 <efc> I wonder why they haven't built monitors from a huge grid of micro-LEDs..

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20:11 <PovAddict> money?

20:11 <Romulus> money is good, PovAddict

20:12 <efc> we just need a silicon-based life form to vomit all over a PCB for us

20:14 <efc> I have seen some displays that are LED backlit but don't really know what that gets you

20:14 <efc> also they are like $3000

20:18 <Rookie_69> Airplane??? Surely you're kidding!

20:25 <Rookie_69> Surely you jest... No, I'm serious... and quit calling me shirley!

20:25 <Soul_keeper> xcamel, got the latest 2.8.6 compiled with pthreads support

20:26 <Soul_keeper> apparently the terminal i use doesn't support threading :(  likely wouldn't be extremely difficult to code it in i guess

20:27 <Soul_keeper> i'd been running 1600x1200 for like 4 or 5yrs ....

20:27 <Soul_keeper> apparently my monitor does  2048x1536

20:28 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:31 <xcamel> I see

20:34 <Rookie_69> I can't.

20:34 <Rookie_69> Letters too small.

20:34 <Soul_keeper> hmmm so the difference between  2560x1600  and  2048x1536   is about 25% screensize ?

20:35 <Soul_keeper> well pixels*

20:35 <Soul_keeper> 2560x1600=4096000  2048x1536=3145728

20:36 <PovAddict> LOL @ silicon life vomit

20:37 <Soul_keeper> 23.2% more realestate

20:41 <PovAddict> efc:

20:41 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #294362 (at

20:44 <Soul_keeper> 3.5" more horizontal screenspace and 2.5" more verticle by moving my res from 2560x1600  to  2048x1536

20:48 <Soul_keeper> 39% more realestate going from   1600x1200 to 2048x1536

20:49 <Soul_keeper> 3.5" more horizontal screenspace and 2.5" more verticle by moving my res from 1600x1200  to  2048x1536  (EDIT)

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20:51 <Soul_keeper> so basically i'm talking to myself

20:53 <PovAddict> yup

20:57 <Rookie_69> I'm not really listening.

20:57 <xcamel> ditto

20:59 <xcamel> laterz..

20:59 <Soul_keeper> i don't like any of you anyways

21:09 <Rookie_69> I don' treally like any of us either.

21:10 * wdsmia sends Rookie_69 a space

21:10 <Rookie_69> I don't really like any of us either.

21:11 <Rookie_69> TY.

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21:16 <Rookie_69> I bought a 19" crt and then realized that it took up the whole desk...

21:17 <Rookie_69> I replaced it with a 19"led monitor...

21:17 <Rookie_69> Il have to wear reading glasses tosee it now.

21:17 <Rookie_69> ... to see...

21:18 <Rookie_69> Well, I have to wear reading glasses to see the keyboard at least.

21:19 <wdsmia> arms to short to type?

21:26 <Rookie_69> Maybe...

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21:35 <Rookie_69> Desk too small to fit monitor on.

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21:59 <Rookie_69> Thermo is sitting at about -11C. Brr.

22:22 <wdsmia> &nn Glenn

22:22 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

22:22 <Rookie_69> NN all.

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22:32 <efc> reremoo

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22:33 <efc> aww, I missed the monitor discussion

22:33 <efc> Sweet, I have a quote enshrined for eternity

22:38 <Soul_keeper> yeah can't believe i was using 40% less desktop for 5yrs and didn't even know it

22:38 <efc> I could use about 4000 vertical pixels for music editing

22:45 <efc> the 1280x1024 I have right now is good enough most of the time, though

22:46 <efc> funny how 640x480 used to be plenty

22:46 <PovAddict> I have 1280x1024

22:47 <Soul_keeper> i'm running 2048x1536  right now, i didn't even know it existed   i'd read specs somewhere and just see the "2"  figured there was only one step over 1600x1200 and what not ...

22:47 <efc> what refresh rate at that res?

22:47 <efc> That has to be getting close to the limit of what the analog VGA connector can take

22:47 <Soul_keeper> i ran 1280x1024 on my 17" for 5yrs before i got this 21" 5yrs ago

22:48 <Soul_keeper> only 60Hz tho at 2048x1536    but still ok

22:49 <efc> Can't remember how high my Iiyama went, but 1152x864 was the sweet spot

22:49 <efc> at least 1600x1200

22:49 <efc> the Iiyama had the 5xBNC inputs, but I never ended up using them

22:50 <Soul_keeper> interesting

22:50 <efc> used for workstations like Suns

22:51 <efc> i thought i'd get a Sparcstation

22:51 <Soul_keeper> those are for rich kids :)

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22:51 <efc> well, like a Sparcstation 1+ :p like a 33 mhz 386

22:52 <efc> totally kick butt at the time though, like $20,000

22:52 <Soul_keeper> heh

22:52 <efc> 64 meg of ram

22:52 <efc> a lot in 1990

22:53 <PovAddict> heh I was still in the womb

22:55 <efc> maybe I oghter hook my 17"s as duals again (I got dad the same model as I have)

22:55 <Soul_keeper>

22:55 <Romulus> <> (at

22:55 <Soul_keeper> that's the difference is size

22:56 <Soul_keeper> old 1600x1200 screenshot at full size

22:56 <PovAddict> you use window folding a lot :)

22:57 <PovAddict> are you using any interesting window manager?

22:59 <efc> One thing I'd heard is a good setup is a 30" 2560x1200, with two 5:4 20" 1600x1200's turned on their sides

23:00 <efc> What the heck, SGA is a rerun

23:03 <granpa_paul> that does sound good, efc

23:03 <efc> Of course this setup will cost you at least $2000 + whatever video card array could drive it :)

23:03 <granpa_paul> trying to figure out what to use next, have a 24 and 1 195:4 turned

23:03 <granpa_paul> oops 19"

23:03 <granpa_paul> 1280x1024

23:03 <Soul_keeper> they are talking about how CRTs work on history channel "modern marvels"

23:03 <efc> On the history channel, ouch

23:03 <Soul_keeper> lol

23:04 <Soul_keeper> talking about LCDs now on history chan

23:06 <efc> apparently there were some much higher res LCDs produced years ago

23:08 <wdsmia> Hmm broken heat sink mount that explains why the cpu was running at 82C

23:09 <efc> 3840 x 2400 produced several years ago but none anymore

23:10 <MTughan> As I know, no video cards can drive that alone. It'd probably need two inputs.

23:10 <MTughan> &math 3840 / 2

23:10 <Romulus> MTughan: 1920

23:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah those higher res ones have a catch tho

23:11 <Soul_keeper> you have to use dual dvi to run them

23:11 <efc> probably a quintuple-link DVI

23:11 <Soul_keeper> a special card like the matrox parhelia

23:11 <MTughan> Can dual-link DVI run it, or do you mean two DVI connections?

23:11 <Soul_keeper> so it's basically like having a several monitors just not being divided

23:12 <Soul_keeper> i'm not too sure

23:12 <efc> So regular cards with a DVI don't do dual link DVI? Like my old Geforce4 would appear to be dual link..

23:12 <MTughan> Hmm, apparently dual-link can drive 3840x2400.

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23:12 <MTughan> Although at only 33Hz.

23:13 <efc> its got the pins anyway

23:13 <MTughan> 2560x1600 is the highest a single DVI connection can drive at 60Hz.

23:14 <efc> it "only" goes to 2048x1536

23:14 <MTughan> Can drive that at 75Hz.

23:14 <Soul_keeper> "Most display cards with a DVI connector are capable of supporting the 3840x2400 resolution. However, the maximum refresh rate will be limited by the number of DVI links that are connected to the monitor. 1, 2, or 4 DVI connectors are used to drive the monitor using various tile configurations. Only the IBM T221-DG5 and IDTech MD22292B5 support the use of dual-link DVI ports using an external converter box."

23:15 <Soul_keeper> viewsonic briefly made one too

23:15 <MTughan> So yes, at least two DVI dual-link connections would be needed to drive 3840x2400. 4 single-link connections oughta do it too.

23:15 <MTughan> For a usable 60Hz, that is.

23:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah less than 60 would probably make your eyes bug out

23:17 <Soul_keeper> anyways pizza time here :)

23:18 <efc> maybe we should just get normal pRon instead of gawking at 3840x2400 monitors :P

23:20 <efc> It would be cool if you could build up the monitor out of tiles, and make it as big as you wanted

23:20 <efc> Hard to make them seamless but maybe possible

23:41 <Soul_keeper> :)

23:41 <Soul_keeper> i'm surprised they never made that halographic light stuff work

23:42 <efc> I heard somebody was actually going to sell a 3d display

23:42 <Soul_keeper> where an image is just projected into the air

23:43 <efc> I think the volumetric spinning spiral thingies have been around a while but they never sell them

23:43 <Soul_keeper> i saw a video game like that in an arcade once

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