IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-12-21

00:00 <efc> yeah thought they were the OC king in general

00:02 <Soul_keeper> yeah

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00:09 <zombie67> where is uptime kept again?

00:13 <zombie67> found it

00:13 <zombie67> client state

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00:29 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

00:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -2.4F / -19.1C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Windy. Areas of blowing snow. Low 5 to 10 below. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph. Wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Bitterly cold. Windy. Areas of (2 more messages)

01:05 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx   amazing 78 bucks and can run seti :)

01:05 <Romulus> Title: Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! (at www.newegg.com)

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01:32 <efc> Sounds good

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01:33 <efc> reading monitors is pooey with contacts

01:34 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500080   foudn a 9800GT for 92 bucks after 30 mail-in rebate

01:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8r26xl> (at www.newegg.com)

01:34 <Soul_keeper> wonder which one would be more powerfull for seti ...

01:35 <efc> That video card can run seti?

01:35 <Soul_keeper> yup

01:36 <Soul_keeper> http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html   any of these can

01:36 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2psf5g> (at www.nvidia.com)

01:36 <efc> Didn't realize seti had a cuda port already

01:43 <MTughan> I'm going with either a 9800GTX+ or a HD4870 with my new computer. The 4870 is preferred... Did you know the 9800GTX+ is 10.5" long? Might not fit in my current case.

01:44 <MTughan> The 4870 is "only" 9.5".

01:44 <MTughan> My old Radeon 9600 is 6.75" long. xD

01:47 <Soul_keeper> yeah those new nvidia cards are horrible

01:47 <Soul_keeper> the one they are coming out with next month pulls like 500 watts or whatever

01:47 <MTughan> One consolation: they put the power connectors on the edge, rather than at the end, as ATI/AMD did.

01:47 <Soul_keeper> 380 ...

01:48 <Soul_keeper> problem is you can't run boinc stuff on ati yet

01:48 <MTughan> If this keeps up, Nvidia's going to be ripe for the pickings in the lower end market.

01:49 <MTughan> I know, but AI said they'll have an ATI app out first. Plus, it's cheaper than a GTX 260, takes less power AFAIK, and is smaller. From what I've heard, quieter too.

01:49 <MTughan> And competes well with the GTX 260 in gaming performance.

01:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah

01:51 <Soul_keeper> i'm just looking at these sub 100 dollar nvidia solutions to run in a headless linux system,  it'll do nothing but seti

01:52 <MTughan> Hopefully CUDA is useful without X running... If it just needs an output from the card, it'll work, but I don't know.

01:53 <efc> How many cards can you pack in there?

01:54 <Soul_keeper> yeah shouldn't need to run X

01:54 <Soul_keeper> it's all thru the libraries and backend

01:54 <Soul_keeper> i only got 1 pcie slot in that system

01:54 <MTughan> I should have at least two, although that's not useful to me, for crunching or for budget.

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01:56 <efc> Do they require a x16 slot or whatever the big one is?

01:56 <Soul_keeper> as far as i know there is forward/backwards compatibility

01:56 <MTughan> x16 is the full length slot, but it doesn't necessarily have to have that many lanes. I believe most cards support x16, but can run with x8.

01:57 <efc> So the rest of the slots are usually x8?

01:57 <MTughan> Depends on the motherboard. Most higher end ones can drive two x16 slots.

01:58 <MTughan> Above 3 though, all slots drop down to x8 IIRC.

01:58 <MTughan> And for the quad Crossfire AMD introduced, they're all x8 slots.

01:58 <Soul_keeper> but for seti, ps3grid, etc.  shouldn't really matter how many lanes  assuming you got enough vid mem

01:59 <efc> Yeah cool so you can load it up

01:59 <MTughan> Yeah, it doesn't push that much data.

01:59 <MTughan> I don't know of any motherboards off the top of my head that drop an x16 slot down to x4.

02:00 <efc> So for our purposes 4 cards is possible

02:01 <MTughan> I don't know of any 4 card Nvidia system other than the Fastra.

02:01 <Tank_Master> &math convert 21 F to C

02:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: -6.11111111111

02:03 <efc> If it has 4 slots you should be able to put in 4 cards though? Maybe not SLI'd, but BOINC'd

02:04 <MTughan> Yeah.

02:04 <Soul_keeper> some have a x4 slot just for network/sound type stuff

02:05 <Soul_keeper> hasn't really caught on yet

02:05 <MTughan> Some can have an x4 slot, sure. But an x16 physical type with only 4 lanes?

02:05 <Tank_Master> I now have 8-9" of snow

02:11 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143160   BFG has one for 8 bucks more, they are supposed to be the best ...

02:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7e6q56> (at www.newegg.com)

02:11 <Soul_keeper> doesn't say if it has a lifetime warranty like i've heard they offer tho

02:28 * MTughan is off to bed

02:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah this is annoying

02:33 <Tank_Master> gn MT

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02:49 <Tank_Master> hi DM

02:53 <efc> moo

02:55 <zombie67> om

02:55 <zombie67> oom

02:55 <zombie67> ooom

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03:35 <Tank_Master> z!

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03:44 <ChristmasCoder> &wx 45140

03:44 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 32.3F / 0.2C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.8mph / 1.3km/h ; Overnight - Cloudy with light drizzle...then a chance of snow showers. Little or no snow accumulation. Ice accumulation of a trace. Lows in the lower 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west at 15 to 20 mph with (2 more messages)

03:44 <ChristmasCoder> &more

03:44 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy and blustery. Highs in the mid 20s. Temperatures falling to around 18 in the afternoon. West winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Wind chill values as low as 3 below.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy and brisk. Colder with lows 5 to 10 above. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Wind chill (1 more message)

03:45 <ChristmasCoder> &more

03:45 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: values as low as 10 below.;

03:50 * FreeLarry58 has made it back thru 26 miles of 8 inch snowfall ;) - don't want to do it tomorrow tho

03:50 <FreeLarry58> airdam on car not meant to be a snow plow

03:51 <ChristmasCoder> wb

03:51 <FreeLarry58> escorts make good bob sleds

03:51 <ChristmasCoder> I plowed snow with the front bumper of a VW Rabbit one time long ago

03:52 <FreeLarry58> last half mile was scraping 2 inches off top of road to driveway just now

03:52 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130397   i just purchased that ...

03:52 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/622xs5> (at www.newegg.com)

03:52 <ChristmasCoder> so you've got you some snow, huh?

03:52 <Soul_keeper> gonna run seti on it

03:53 <FreeLarry58> a bit ChristmasCoder

03:53 <ChristmasCoder> looks nice Soul_keeper

03:55 <FreeLarry58> that it does

03:56 <FreeLarry58> ChristmasCoder i just hope the projected wind for tomorrow night doesn't show up

03:56 <FreeLarry58> gust to 90 mph a bit much with all this ice on lines currently

03:57 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127328   i almost got this one

03:57 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/38ncuv> (at www.newegg.com)

03:58 <Soul_keeper> couldn't find any comparisons for seti performance tho ....

03:58 <Soul_keeper> figured i'd just go with the latest technology

04:00 <FreeLarry58> which will be out of date by the time you put it in a case

04:00 <Soul_keeper> the fact that they raised the price of that one 12 bucks while i was trying to make up my mind didn't help :)

04:00 <FreeLarry58> true

04:00 <FreeLarry58> got to make up the shipping costs somewhere

04:01 <Soul_keeper> now i get to find out how much credit one of these things can really generate

04:01 <Soul_keeper> seems like nobody else around here has tryed

04:02 * FreeLarry58 looks into crystal ball and sees card OC at least 125% and getting 5000+ per day

04:02 <Soul_keeper> ha !

04:03 <FreeLarry58> at least what i see from shouts at boincstats

04:04 <FreeLarry58> time to go upstairs and get ready for bed

04:04 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

04:04 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

04:05 <Soul_keeper> that's BOINCstats RAC ?

04:05 <ChristmasCoder> cya

04:05 <Soul_keeper> adding 5000+ will essentially double my performance ...

04:05 <FreeLarry58> what the crunchers reporting to each other 3300 to 6000 daily

04:05 <Soul_keeper> nice

04:06 <FreeLarry58> depending on wu's but not sure if boincstats track those projects

04:06 <Soul_keeper> well i ordered 3 day ups ground, so i might get it after xmas

04:06 <FreeLarry58> gpugrid i believe

04:07 <FreeLarry58> shucky darn you should have used usps priority

04:07 <Soul_keeper> probably won't ship till monday morning

04:07 <Soul_keeper> 3 day ups was free

04:07 <Soul_keeper> woulda cost me 15 bucks for 2 day, and 25 for anything "faster"

04:07 <FreeLarry58> a lot cheaper and gets there depending on the where from and to in at most 5 days

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04:08 <FreeLarry58> 16.50 anywhere in usa flat rate box

04:08 <Soul_keeper> nice

04:08 <Soul_keeper> don't think that was a newegg choice

04:08 <FreeLarry58> newegg should check into it

04:09 <Soul_keeper> good night

04:09 <FreeLarry58> usps also provides shipping material and site pickup

04:09 <Soul_keeper> i'll let you know how it goes :)

04:09 <FreeLarry58> nn again

04:14 <ChristmasCoder> need... food...  brb breakfast

04:23 <ChristmasCoder> b

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06:05 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -3.4F / -19.7C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Bitterly cold. Windy. High zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Low around 15 below. (1 more message)

06:06 <wdsmia> &more

06:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph becoming west 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Monday - Sunny until late afternoon then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High around 10. Southwest wind around 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 4:00 AM CST on December 22, 2008;

06:07 <ChristmasCoder> you're pretty cold there wdsmia

06:08 <ChristmasCoder> got that furnace working and all CPUs cooking?

06:08 <wdsmia> yup

06:08 <ChristmasCoder> your electric meter thanks you

06:09 * ChristmasCoder continues to work on personal finances

06:09 * wdsmia works on his first cup of coffee

06:10 * ChristmasCoder is 2 Cola-Colas to the wind already this morning

06:11 <wdsmia> your Dentist thanks you

06:16 <ChristmasCoder> She has blonde hair and hazel colored eyes

06:17 <ChristmasCoder> she says I have the best teeth she's ever seen

06:17 * ChristmasCoder smiles

06:19 * ChristmasCoder frowns

06:19 <ChristmasCoder> trying to figure out the best way to attack this wall debt

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08:11 <ChristmasCoder> morning desti

08:11 <desti> hi

08:13 <ChristmasCoder> happy winter solstice day

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08:24 <xcamel> 'lo

08:30 <ChristmasCoder> morning Jay

08:39 <xcamel> more snow...

08:45 <xcamel> lol >> Report says Ohio's former AG raided campaign cash( Name That Party!)

08:45 <xcamel> http://www.wlos.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/27199d8e-www.wlos.com.shtml

08:45 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8sjta2> (at www.wlos.com)

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08:57 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

08:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -4.1F / -20.1C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Bitterly cold. Windy. High zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Low around 15 below. (1 more message)

08:57 <wdsmia> getting colder :(

09:00 <ChristmasCoder> and it takes a NC/SC TV station to report Ohio corruption - can't get it done in-state, xcamel

09:00 <xcamel> indeed..

09:01 <xcamel> anyone want their global warming back??

09:01 <ChristmasCoder> wdsmia can keep his, afaic

09:01 <xcamel> 17F and snowing pretty herd here

09:02 <ChristmasCoder> solstice sunrise way far south here

09:02 <ChristmasCoder> by definition, I reckon

09:02 <xcamel> time for the days to get longer

09:02 <xcamel> 7:04 am

09:07 <xcamel> trying to figure out this snowstorm...

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09:09 <ChristmasCoder> I believe it is impervious to psychoanalysis

09:10 <xcamel> baro dropping like a rock, energy getting transferred to the coast...

09:10 <xcamel> could turn into quote the nor'easter

09:10 <ChristmasCoder> how'd you build up such bad karma?

09:11 <xcamel> damnifiknow

09:11 <xcamel> something to do with this crappy head/chest cold

09:12 <ChristmasCoder> I'm certain there's a connection there somewhere

09:12 <xcamel> luckily low grade

09:12 <ChristmasCoder> we're running an upgrade special today

09:12 <xcamel> anyway - the coastal storm should be showing some circulation by now... but it's not.

09:14 * ChristmasCoder sits at his desk and goes through crap that has accumulated

09:17 <ChristmasCoder> just getting down to the election mailings

09:20 <xcamel> pretty colors in the fireplace...

09:21 <xcamel> lol - st elmo's static in the radio...

09:24 <ChristmasCoder> hide your spare hydrogen there, Von Hindeburg

09:24 <xcamel> 'thunder snow'

09:25 <ChristmasCoder> your snowflakes are too dry

09:28 <xcamel> there are stories of the blizzard of '88

09:29 <xcamel> glowing snow, entire herds of cows struck dead by ground running lightning in the snow

09:30 <ChristmasCoder> heh

09:30 <ChristmasCoder> I have seen phase-to-ground faults from transmission lines in a heavy snowstorm

09:32 <ChristmasCoder> dang - getting hungry again

09:34 <xcamel> check this out..

09:34 <ChristmasCoder> been since 4:23am

09:34 <xcamel> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1099282/Pete-purple-squirrel-leaves-animal-lovers-baffled.html

09:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/99maew> (at www.dailymail.co.uk)

09:34 <ChristmasCoder> looking

09:34 <xcamel> hmmm...

09:34 <ChristmasCoder> heh - what happened to Poor Pete?

09:35 <xcamel> unknown..

09:35 <xcamel> prune juice?

09:36 <xcamel> elderberry wine vat?

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09:38 <ChristmasCoder> iron poor blood?

09:38 <xcamel> pete the purple peanut eater...

09:38 <ChristmasCoder> lol

09:39 <ChristmasCoder> I need to find something to eat - bbiab

09:44 <xcamel> wow - all the way up to 18F

09:47 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 18.3F / -7.6C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow. Total snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Highs in the upper 20s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northeast 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph this afternoon. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - (2 more messages)

09:47 <xcamel> &more

09:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Areas of blowing snow after midnight. Windy with lows around 11. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 50 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Areas of blowing snow. Blustery and cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Winter (1 more message)

09:47 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 18.3F / -7.6C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow. Total snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Highs in the upper 20s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northeast 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph this afternoon. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - (2 more messages)

09:47 <xcamel> &more

09:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Areas of blowing snow after midnight. Windy with lows around 11. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 50 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Areas of blowing snow. Blustery and cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 50 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Winter (1 more message)

09:47 <xcamel> &more

09:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 10:00 PM EST on December 21, 2008; Special Weather Statement for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on December 21, 2008;

09:49 <xcamel> another for xmas eve, and another for friday...

10:21 <ChristmasCoder> re-hi

10:46 <xcamel> animals done, paths snowblown

10:47 <xcamel> the heatwave continues..

10:47 <xcamel> all the way up to 20

10:53 <PovAddict> MTughan: there is a CUDA-enabled card that doesn't even *have* an output connector

11:00 <xcamel> looks like some heavy bands of snow coming in...

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11:07 <xcamel> at least no winds yet..

11:10 <ChristmasCoder> &wx 45140

11:10 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 20.4F / -6.4C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny and blustery. Highs 15 to 21. West winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Wind chill as low as 5 below this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy and brisk. Lows 5 to 10 above. West winds 15 to 25 mph (1 more message)

11:10 <ChristmasCoder> &more

11:10 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: with gusts up to 35 mph. Wind chill as low as 15 below.; Monday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs 15 to 20. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill as low as 15 below in the morning.; Wind Chill Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on December 22, 2008;

11:10 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab

11:11 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

11:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -2.1F / -18.9C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Bitterly cold. Windy. Scattered flurries. High zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly (2 more messages)

11:11 <wdsmia> &more

11:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: cold. Low around 15 below. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph becoming west 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Monday - Sunny until late afternoon then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High around 10. Southwest wind around 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 4:00 AM (1 more message)

11:11 <wdsmia> &more

11:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: CST on December 22, 2008;

11:17 <xcamel> hope you are staying inside..

11:17 <wdsmia> you can be sure of that

11:17 <ChristmasCoder> um - I'm back inside

11:18 <ChristmasCoder> had to center the wreath in the door archway and window - was a bit off-center and annoying

11:18 <ChristmasCoder> wind is starting to pick up here

11:18 <ChristmasCoder> feels like an ill wind out of Iowa

11:20 * wdsmia wonders if ChristmasCoder has a ACME wind deflector

11:20 <ChristmasCoder> no - it's Generic brand

11:21 <ChristmasCoder> white box - black lettering

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11:28 <jackygrahamez> Hi

11:28 <jackygrahamez> &wx 12758

11:28 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 26.1F / -3.3C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow this morning...then a chance of snow showers this afternoon. Snow accumulation of 4 to 6 inches. Highs in the upper 20s. East winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west 15 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the (2 more messages)

11:29 <jackygrahamez> &more

11:29 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. A 30 percent chance of snow showers. Areas of blowing snow. Brisk with lows 5 to 10 above. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow showers. Blustery with highs around 20. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Sullivan County in effect until (1 more message)

11:29 <jackygrahamez> 7more

11:29 <jackygrahamez> &more

11:29 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: 2:00 PM EST on December 21, 2008;

11:29 <jackygrahamez> happy holidays

11:31 <jackygrahamez> Anyone have experience in creating an svn repository for SourceForge?

11:32 <jackygrahamez> ah I found a sourceforge channel

11:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: Doesn't CUDA at this point require a desktop on the card? Or is that just BOINC's implementation?

11:53 <desti> why should you need a desktop?

11:59 <MTughan> desti: I believe output just has to be enabled on the card, so it was written from a Windows perspective.

12:03 <jackygrahamez> I just can't figure out how to do this svn import blahhhh

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12:31 <jackygrahamez> I think I got it

12:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: it's possible that the science apps need a desktop or something

12:34 <PovAddict> or that they need some special stuff because BOINC runs as a service

12:34 <PovAddict> but the nVidia Tesla has no output connections, it's exclusively for CUDA

12:34 <PovAddict> I'd expect that works without X

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12:42 <desti> you need only load the nvidia module for using cuda

12:42 <PovAddict> on Windows there was trouble about that...

12:42 <PovAddict> boinc runs on a separate account, as a service, and couldn't talk to the GPU

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13:24 <ChristmasCoder> bbl

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14:06 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

14:06 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 22.3°F / -5.4°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10.3mph / 16.6km/h | Updated: 3:06 PM AST; Today - Increasing cloudiness. 60 percent chance of flurries late this afternoon. Wind becoming east 20 km/h (12 mph) this afternoon. High -4C(24F).; Tonight - Snow at times heavy changing to rain (3 more messages)

14:06 <Rookie_69> &more

14:06 <Romulus> Rookie_69: overnight and ending then cloudy. Snowfall amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Rainfall amount 5 mm. Local blowing snow this evening. Wind east 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) becoming southeast 50 km/h (31 mph) gusting to 90 km/h (56 mph) near midnight then southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph) overnight. Temperature rising to 4C(39F) by morning.; Monday - (2 more messages)

14:06 <Rookie_69> &more

14:06 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Cloudy with sunny periods. Flurries beginning in the morning and ending in the afternoon then 60 percent chance of flurries late in the day. Local blowing snow in the afternoon. Wind southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph) increasing to 60 km/h (37 mph) gusting to 100 km/h (62 mph) in the morning then becoming northwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) late in (1 more message)

14:07 <Rookie_69> &more

14:07 <Romulus> Rookie_69: the day. Temperature falling to -6C(21F) in the afternoon.;

14:08 <Rookie_69> Cape Hatteras is sending me it's unwanted weather :-(

14:14 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

14:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -1.5F / -18.6C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1026.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Blowing Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 12.0mph / 19.3km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Bitterly cold. Windy. Scattered flurries. High zero to 5 below. Northwest wind 25 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Tonight - Partly (2 more messages)

14:14 <wdsmia> warmed up 1F lol

14:19 <Rookie_69> They're expecting hurricane force winds up the Bay of Fundy tonight/tomorrow... Horray :-(

14:20 <Rookie_69> ... Hurray?...

14:20 * Rookie_69 looks nervously up at cracks in wall.

14:23 <PovAddict> &zipinfo 50319

14:23 <Romulus> PovAddict: City: Des Moines; State: IA; County: Polk; Area Code: 515; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.5929 (North); Longitude: 93.6001 (West)

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15:48 <Rookie_69> 21st place on PrimeGrid Challenge isn't all that bad considering only two people played...

15:51 <PovAddict> o_o

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15:57 <wdsmia> still 65K waiting for validation

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16:03 <Rookie_69> mouse broke...

16:04 <Rookie_69> That's better.

16:06 <wdsmia> thats what you get for using live mice

16:06 <Rookie_69> They're cheaper than those electronic ones.

16:10 <Rookie_69> ... unless you feed them.

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16:17 <wdsmia> thought you would use a rat longer cord

16:21 <Rookie_69> Too big... hard to hold onto.

16:22 <Rookie_69> Aww... Firetrucks left... and still no flames.

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16:52 <quail> &wx ypad

16:52 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:59 F.; Overcast. High:73 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F.; Overcast. High:82 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:60 F.;

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17:25 <ChristmasCoder> re-hi boincsters

17:28 <efc> Hey

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17:28 <efc> went and made the traditional sacrifice of money to the soulless big box stores today

17:29 <efc> I got a small bonus.. it is beyond gone now

17:30 <PovAddict> huh

17:30 <efc> Huh to which part?

17:31 <PovAddict> all two lines

17:31 <xcamel> re-hi

17:32 <efc> Big Box stores sell stuff like TVs, VCRs, appliances

17:33 <Rookie_69> If I converted my bonus into quarters, it still wouldn't fill my pants pocket. :-)

17:34 <PovAddict> what did you buy?

17:34 <efc> FUnny with Abit, apparently somebody bought them, now they say they need to cut costs so they are closing them. Way to go.

17:35 <Soul_keeper> they are pushing them into consumer electronics

17:35 <Rookie_69> Somebody bought out a computer parts manufacturer??? No way!

17:35 <Soul_keeper> which basically means dumb stuff that 15 oher chinese companies are making

17:35 <PovAddict> not buying the company would have been cost-cutting...

17:36 <PovAddict> retards

17:37 <Soul_keeper> http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/abit/FunFab_Photo_Frame_Printer/photo-frame-printer-funfab-1.htm   stupid stuff like this

17:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8rox5w> (at my.oc!@#&bench.com)

17:37 <efc> PovAddict: Blu ray player for dad's new TV

17:37 <efc> They wanted to sell me a $120 HDMI cable

17:38 <PovAddict> lol

17:38 <efc> Thats One Hundred and Twenty Dollars

17:38 <efc> the player was only 200

17:38 <PovAddict> do you know why they cost that much?

17:38 <efc> it must have half a million in cables internall

17:38 <efc> Tell me

17:39 <Rookie_69> Cuz they think they can.

17:39 <PovAddict> that's it

17:39 <PovAddict> because they can

17:39 <PovAddict> no competitor is selling one for $10

17:39 <PovAddict> so why not

17:40 <efc> That was a 12 foot cable. They had a 3 foot for only $80.

17:40 <efc> Can get them online for about $15.

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17:41 <efc> I can see getting in a little extra profit at say $30 but $120 is just insulting.

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17:42 <ELGono> http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/210367845/HDMI_cable.html

17:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7sjzh7> (at www.alibaba.com)

17:42 <ELGono> from 1-10 hongkong dollar

17:42 <ELGono> per cable ;)

17:44 <Rookie_69> Hi, J... I mean ElGono!

17:44 <ELGono> moo dudes

17:44 <ELGono> arrived at parents home today

17:44 <Rookie_69> They let you in?

17:45 <ELGono> hehe even got a beer

17:45 <Rookie_69> :-)

17:45 <DerMeister> But you're still online from the golan... I guess you have vpn access, right?

17:45 <DerMeister> ;)

17:46 <ELGono> nope vpn sucks

17:46 <ELGono> using oldschool ssh portforward

17:46 <DerMeister> Using ipv6? Or how do you get in then?

17:47 <ELGono> i could use ipv6

17:47 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

17:48 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM KST; Chance of Snow. High:39 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:26 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:42 F.; Clear. Low:30 F.; Clear. High:50 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:35 F.;

17:49 <ChristmasCoder> sans snow in Ulsan?

17:50 <ELGono> no snow here ... just melted away

17:50 <xcamel> I wish

17:51 <KathrynM> I'll believe it when I see it.

17:51 <xcamel> 2 days, about 15" wiorth

17:51 <ELGono> sounds like white christmas

17:51 <xcamel> yeah..

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17:53 <xcamel> a little too white

17:53 <ELGono> well i didn't miss the snow on highway today

17:53 <ChristmasCoder> doesn't look like we're going to have any

17:53 <efc> its going from 70 to 19 in 24 hours here

17:53 <xcamel> the big chill

17:54 <ELGono> &math convert 19 F to C

17:54 <Romulus> ELGono: -7.22222222222

17:54 <xcamel> all the way up to 27F here

17:54 <efc> &wx 30625

17:54 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 46F / 8C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Light and variable winds.; Wind Advisory for (1 more message)

17:54 <ChristmasCoder> it's looking like 49 on Wednesday, 36 Thursday

17:54 <efc> &more

17:54 <Romulus> efc: Morgan County in effect until 12:00 AM EST on December 22, 2008;

17:55 <xcamel> just got done plowing/snowblowing again

17:55 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -0.9F / -18.3C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 17.0mph / 27.4km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Partly sunny. Breezy. Areas of blowing snow. Northwest wind around 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Breezy. Low 10 to (1 more message)

17:56 <xcamel> ouch..

17:56 <PovAddict> efc: some of those cables have gold-plated connectors

17:56 <ELGono> oh dear

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17:56 <wdsmia> &more

17:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: 15 below. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Monday - Sunny until late afternoon then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. Southwest wind around 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Wind Chill Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:00 AM CST on December 22, 2008;

17:56 <ChristmasCoder> condolences wdsmia

17:56 <PovAddict> but that isn't expensive enough to get the price to $120

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17:57 <efc> My $15 cable has gold plated connectors

17:57 <ELGono> gold plated is just good if it was plated without nickel

17:57 <efc> Holy Lip Balm wdsmia

17:57 <efc> &wx Yakutsk

17:58 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: -54°F / -48°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 7:30 AM YAKT; Overcast. High:-43 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-56 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:-36 F.; Overcast. Low:-47 F.; Overcast. High:-32 F.; Overcast. Low:-50 F.;

17:58 <efc> Feel warmer now? You're welcome.

17:58 <ELGono> ;)

17:58 <ELGono> &weather rostock,germany

17:58 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 7:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:48 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:46 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:39 F.; Clear. Low:32 F.;

18:01 <ELGono> well .. off to bed for me

18:01 <ELGono> have a nice evening

18:02 <Rookie_69> NN.

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18:12 <PovAddict> &wx eze

18:12 <PovAddict> &ping

18:12 <Romulus> pong

18:12 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ARST; Partly Cloudy. High:75 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F.; Clear. High:84 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F.;

18:12 <PovAddict> cooled down LOTS with the rain

18:13 * wdsmia slaps PovAddict around with a large Carp

18:14 * Rookie_69 slaps PovAddict around a bit with a large wdsmia.

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18:17 <wdsmia> Argentinian

18:18 <Rookie_69> well thought out but poorly executed.

18:19 <Rookie_69> Sounds like my life.

18:24 <Rookie_69> Horace Wimp this is your life... Go out and find yourself a wife.

18:24 <Rookie_69> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFU9HYyMVxQ

18:24 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - ELO - The Diary of Horace Wimp (at www.youtube.com)

18:24 <efc> Some crazy monitor setups here.. http://www.stefandidak.com/office/

18:24 <Romulus> Title: Stefan Didak's Home Office (at www.stefandidak.com)

18:24 <efc> I smiled at a girl at the mall today!

18:24 <efc> But she left so I went back to fondling the mannequins in the lingerie dept.

18:26 <efc> he's got 4 of the HP monitor I keep looking at

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18:35 <Rookie_69> Looking a monitors whilst fondling mannequins... I dunno.

18:35 <Rookie_69> Don't defile those monitors.

18:36 <efc> They were asking for it

18:38 <Rookie_69> Do your mannequins have any older sisters?

18:40 <Rookie_69> ... and are they willing to travel?

18:47 <KathrynM> My baby brother graduated college.

18:47 <ChristmasCoder> woot

18:47 <KathrynM> I remember when he was born.

18:47 * Rookie_69 visited a college once.

18:47 <KathrynM> LOL

18:48 <KathrynM> I sat on the steps at my grandmother's house crying because he was a boy.  I already had a little brother.  I wanted a sister.

18:48 <KathrynM> Of course, I wouldn't trade him for all the sisters in the world now.

18:49 <Rookie_69> They were still using teletype terminals as computer interfaces...

18:49 <PovAddict> KathrynM: lol baby brother... how old is he?

18:50 <ChristmasCoder> did you visit me, Rookie_69?

18:50 <Rookie_69> MUN. Probably not you.

18:51 <ChristmasCoder> I started doing assemply language programming on keypunch cards; finally got to use a 300 baud dial-up terminal

18:51 <ChristmasCoder> er assembly

18:52 <ChristmasCoder> maybe that's why my program never would compile...

18:52 <Rookie_69> Combile?

18:52 <ChristmasCoder> pad patch of cards

18:53 <PovAddict> heh I remember I saw on a forum

18:53 <ChristmasCoder> b's were upside down

18:53 <PovAddict> "I remember the card readers!"

18:53 <PovAddict> and I said "I have one of those... wait, you mean like SD memory cards, don't you?"

18:53 <ChristmasCoder> lol

18:53 <PovAddict> guess not

18:54 <ChristmasCoder> Hollerith memory cards

18:54 * PovAddict has never seen a punched card

18:55 <ChristmasCoder> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g207/corybarlog/2000-florida-recount01b.jpg

18:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6v2zta> (at i57.photobucket.com)

18:55 * Rookie_69 used to make xmas trees out of punch cards in elemental school

18:55 * ChristmasCoder used to try and make Code out of punched cards

18:55 * PovAddict is now Coding in C++ using Eclipse

18:56 <Rookie_69> No good... Eclipses don't happen often enough.

18:56 <ChristmasCoder> first, you'd have to read Eclipse into the card reader...

18:57 <PovAddict> heh

18:57 <Rookie_69> ... and most C cells have a + and a -

18:58 <PovAddict> I once saw people arguing about using C for performance vs who needs such low level performance anyway vs other languages in theory can be just as fast

18:58 <PovAddict> etc

18:58 <PovAddict> the usual flamewar

18:58 <PovAddict> but Einstein already said you can't go faster than c

18:59 <ChristmasCoder> true that

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18:59 <PovAddict> E=MC++

19:00 <ChristmasCoder> well, I need to haul the trash out to the street curb - it's dark now, so I need to be careful not to trip over the 11 degrees out there

19:00 <PovAddict> C::operator++() { this->square(); } :P

19:00 <KathrynM> baby brother is 23

19:01 <KathrynM> <---- shower

19:01 <ChristmasCoder> Stephen is 24

19:02 <ChristmasCoder> cya folks back here again soon

19:16 <efc> later CFL

19:28 <Rookie_69> NN.

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19:32 * Tank_Master now has 9-10" of the white stuff

19:33 <efc> Make a snowman!

19:37 <Tank_Master> the layer of ice dosent help

19:37 <Tank_Master> and the snow underneith is powder

19:43 <FreeLarry58> ugg ouch ouch, just finished shovelingoff over 8 inches of snow from my driveway and its alreaady got another inch of wet snow on it

19:43 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:44 <FreeLarry58> would have left it but car was acting like a snowplow getting into drive

19:45 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:45 <Tank_Master> yeah

19:46 <Tank_Master> they say we shoud get another 3-6" tonight

19:53 <FreeLarry58> don't know what they saying here

19:57 <FreeLarry58> still cant find chains around here for the car

19:57 <FreeLarry58> i'm in the 3 to 7 inch area for new snow projection

19:58 <FreeLarry58> so looks like more shoveling tomorrow ;/

19:59 <wdsmia> to cold to snow here

19:59 <FreeLarry58> keeping in upper 20's and low 30's here so nasty time for new 10 days it looks like

20:00 <FreeLarry58> definetly going to have to look hard for chains

20:00 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -1.3F / -18.5C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1029.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Breezy. Low 10 to 15 below. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Wind chill readings 20 below to 30 below zero.; Monday - Sunny until late afternoon (2 more messages)

20:00 <FreeLarry58> brrrr doug

20:01 <FreeLarry58> don't want to remember that type of weather

20:01 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

20:01 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 29.5F / -1.4C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.57in / 1001.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Snow showers. Snow accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Lows in the upper 20s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers...mainly in the morning. Highs in the lower to mid 30s. Light wind (1 more message)

20:01 <FreeLarry58> &more

20:01 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: becoming north 10 mph or less in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow showers. Lows in the 20s. South wind to 10 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Kitsap County in effect until 4:00 AM PST on December 22, 2008;

20:02 <wdsmia> I expect temps like this but in Feb not Dec

20:03 <FreeLarry58> yeah early this year for the cold

20:03 <FreeLarry58> so maybe early for the warm (hope hope)

20:04 <FreeLarry58> got to go dose up the arm - tendenitis flaring up bad

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21:49 <MTughan> You know you're bored when: you find enjoyment in rewiring a computer that you're probably going to have to rewire in just over a week anyway.

21:50 <MTughan> I have to say though, it's the best wiring job I've done to date.

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22:07 <PovAddict> you know your life is f*cked up when: you join facebook to get some social life semblance, and it ends up graphically pointing out your lack of social life

22:11 <FreeLarry58> lol you mean it said you had some -- think my last attempt didn't even classify me human

22:12 <PovAddict> I joined, found lots of people I hadn't met in a long time

22:13 <FreeLarry58> good luck on the reunions then ;)

22:14 <PovAddict> but the pictures of them with lots of other friends, or worse, graduating, got me back depressed

22:15 * PovAddict notes he was like locked in the house for two years

22:15 <FreeLarry58> ?? only 2 years

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22:15 <FreeLarry58> health problems?

22:15 <PovAddict> nope

22:16 <FreeLarry58> or independant studies

22:18 <PovAddict> finished one school, didn't want to start the other immediately to keep my sanity; one reason or another the sabbatical year became two

22:18 <PovAddict> and i didn't really have other social activities meanwhile

22:18 <FreeLarry58> ah thats fine then

22:19 <FreeLarry58> my time at your age was spent supporting family while dad not able to work

22:20 <PovAddict> someone telling me his life was worse doesn't make mine any better though...

22:20 <FreeLarry58> not worse just different

22:20 <FreeLarry58> but also same as it removed social interactions at school

22:21 <FreeLarry58> you still have time to regain skills to interact

22:22 <FreeLarry58> and better tools for the shy - but do try and get out and have face to face interactions also

22:23 * FreeLarry58 having exhausted my repetror on interactions guess time to find something to eat - take care all

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