IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-12-22

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00:57 <efc> &wx 31088

00:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 35F / 2C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph shifting to the north 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in (1 more message)

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00:58 <efc> &more

00:58 <Romulus> efc: the upper 20s. Light and variable winds.;

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01:11 <Soul_keeper> OK!

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01:24 <ChristmasCoder> &wx 45140

01:24 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 4.8F / -15.1C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Isolated snow showers until early morning. Lows 0 to 5 above. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph this evening. Chance of snow 20 percent. Wind chill values as low as 20 below.; Monday - (1 more message)

01:24 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

01:24 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 45.3F / 7.4C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.35in / 993.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 37 to 47. Light winds.; Monday - Chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs 57 to 62 in the western valleys to 51 to 56 near the foothills. Light winds becoming (2 more messages)

01:24 <Soul_keeper> &more

01:24 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: southwest 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 60 percent.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. Chance of showers in the evening... then slight chance of showers overnight. Lows 39 to 48. Winds southwest 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 30 percent.; Special Weather Statement for San Diego County in effect until 4:15 AM (1 more message)

01:24 <ChristmasCoder> &more

01:24 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill as low as 15 below in the morning.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 20. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wind Chill Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on December 22, 2008;

01:25 <Soul_keeper> &more

01:25 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: PST on December 22, 2008;

01:27 <efc> Can't wait for Jan 21 for the weather to be fixed

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02:25 * efc resorts to the dartboard method of choosing a monitor

02:26 <Soul_keeper> lol

02:26 <Soul_keeper> might as well

02:26 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [03:18:762] 02 - I'm_Gonna_Be_Somebody .:. Travis_Tritt .:. Country_Club .:. Track 2

02:27 <Soul_keeper> apparently newegg ships on sundays :)

02:27 <ChristmasCoder> just get a monitor

02:28 <Soul_keeper> http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3480  this was a pretty good guide

02:28 <Romulus> Title: AnandTech: Holiday 2008 Display Guide (at anandtech.com)

02:28 * ChristmasCoder thinks efc'c quest for a monitor is starting to approach his wall whining

02:29 <Soul_keeper> i gave up on wanting an lcd once i figured out my CRT had one higher resolution i never knew about :)

02:29 <Soul_keeper> like having a new monitor

02:29 <ChristmasCoder> there ya go

02:29 <efc> I read the anand guide

02:30 <ChristmasCoder> "and"?

02:30 <efc> It was pretty noncommital. It mentioned the one I want. Nothing about the QC issues it may have.

02:30 <Soul_keeper> damnit i burnt the bulb up on my brand new pen light :(

02:30 <Soul_keeper> left it on in my pocket for like an hour

02:31 <Soul_keeper> was using it to search for a motherboard manual in my closet ...

02:32 <Soul_keeper> appears i can max out my seconday system with 4GB of ddr2 for under 50 bucks

02:34 <Soul_keeper> i think most all the TN screens are pretty much the same

02:34 <Soul_keeper> they look the same in the store atleast ...

02:34 <Soul_keeper> anyways goodnight

02:34 <ChristmasCoder> gn

02:35 <efc> The thing with this one, its an IPS

02:35 <efc> thats the only thing that justifies it being > $600 instead of < $400

02:36 <ChristmasCoder> Just Do It

02:37 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824185012   get that

02:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5mzj5q> (at www.newegg.com)

02:37 <Soul_keeper> 400 more for the best :)

02:37 <Soul_keeper> H-IPS

02:38 <Soul_keeper> 2560 x 1600

02:39 <ChristmasCoder> Just Do It

02:39 <efc> that was a thought too, take the next notch up, my video card can't do that one though

02:40 <ChristmasCoder> go efc go

02:40 <ChristmasCoder> go efc go

02:40 * efc clubs CFL! He tried to take mah money!

02:40 <ChristmasCoder> I love clubbing

02:40 <ChristmasCoder> the dancing

02:41 <efc> I was in a similar situation last year with a 24" Sammy that I didn't get. Saw it in a store and it was fairly bad.

02:41 <efc> (TNs look pretty bad from below..)

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02:46 <Tidus> &ping

02:46 <Romulus> pong

02:46 <ChristmasCoder> wb Tidus

02:46 <ChristmasCoder> cold where you are?

02:50 <efc> Pricewatch.com now covers "intimate wear"

02:50 <efc> So I can find the cheapest size 27 black lingerie?

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03:00 <efc> I think I like this $18 a month option better

03:01 <efc> I think the dollar will collapse before that lease would be up

03:08 <yoyo[RKN]> is it possible to copy the whole boinc data folder to an other PC and continue there? I tested it with version 5.x but never with 6.x.

03:09 <DerMeister> It should wourk as long as the platform is the same.

03:10 <yoyo[RKN]> thx, was my assumption

03:10 <DerMeister> But I guess both computers would end with the same host id - might be a problem if the client on the old computer is started again

03:15 <ChristmasCoder> well - I'm going to try sleeping again

03:15 <ChristmasCoder> re-gn

03:16 * efc is closing on clicking

03:17 <yoyo[RKN]> how does a cuda works on Boinc, e.g. for SETI? Does the wu run only on GPU and nothing runs on the CPU?

03:19 <efc> I would think the cuda client would require a small amount of CPU support but leave enough to run a CPU client

03:19 <efc> But I don't really know.. can't imagine people being happy idling the CPUs though

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03:20 <yoyo[RKN]> if I'm running boinc GPU and CPU should be used. But I'm not sure how this is hadled by boinc.

03:21 <efc> I would think the GPUs would appear as additional client instances/threads

03:22 <efc> thats what I was going to do with the FPGA project

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03:23 <yoyo[RKN]> but is this really the case, that boinc runs 3 wus in parallel on a cuda coreDuo?

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03:23 <desti> depends on the project and your settings

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03:23 <yoyo[RKN]> I can configure it for e.g. seti?

03:23 <desti> seti runs gpu OR cpu

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03:31 <FreeLarry58> ah well waiting for brother in law and his youngsters to show up - short power outage here still going on over at his place

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06:19 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -3.9F / -19.9C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Sunny in the morning then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High around 10. West wind around 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tonight - Cloudy. Not as cold. A chance of snow early in the evening...then snow (1 more message)

06:20 <wdsmia> &more

06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: likely late in the evening. A chance of snow after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low around 10. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Tuesday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. South wind 10 to 20 mph.;

06:27 <hawmps> lo

06:34 <hawmps> spork >> 200.74.160.178

06:53 <ChristmasCoder> re-awake

06:54 <ChristmasCoder> morning hawmps

06:55 <hawmps> burrrr...

06:55 <ChristmasCoder> gesporkened - thanks

06:57 <ChristmasCoder> wdsmia is in the part of the thermometer that doesn't give temperature, it taketh away

06:57 <hawmps> that's the windchill dept here..

06:58 <ChristmasCoder> undoubtedly

07:06 <ChristmasCoder> well - didn't get the trash out to the street last night - I guess I thought I'd wait until it was coldest outside

07:06 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab

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08:07 <ChristmasCoder> b

08:08 * ChristmasCoder has one free MP3 download to spend at AmazonMP3

08:09 * PovAdct_w wishes he could use AmazonMP3

08:10 <KathrynM> night night

08:10 <ChristmasCoder> any suggestions as to what I should get?  I'm thinking "Lips of an Angel" by Hinter

08:11 <KathrynM> I just spent a 25 dollar gift certificate at amazon.

08:11 * ChristmasCoder can't find Night Night as an MP3

08:11 <KathrynM> books totaled 16.  shipping, 60

08:11 <KathrynM> damn international shipping.

08:11 <ChristmasCoder> move closer =)

08:11 <KathrynM> <---------- bed

08:11 <KathrynM> for real this time

08:11 <ChristmasCoder> gn KathrynM

08:12 * PovAdct_w 's watch broke

08:12 <PovAdct_w> KathrynM: that's some insane shipping price

08:12 <ChristmasCoder> Mine broke 3 years ago - been asking Santa for one each year

08:13 <PovAdct_w> you've been watchless since then?

08:13 <ChristmasCoder> Santa is not in the watch business, apparently

08:13 <ChristmasCoder> I bought a Mickey Mouse Christmas watch at Disney World 3 years ago for $10 - that's what I wear

08:14 * ChristmasCoder holds it up in front of the monitor

08:14 <ChristmasCoder> see?

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08:15 <ChristmasCoder> it's "ok" this time of year, but is a bit embarassing in July

08:18 <PovAdct_w> I dropped it yesterday

08:18 <PovAdct_w> now the minutes part is only capable of showing '40' or '41'

08:18 <PovAdct_w> both when time passes normally, and when I go to 'set time' mode and change the minutes, it just flips between those two numbers

08:19 <PovAdct_w> since it never reaches 59, the hour, day, etc. doesn't move either

08:20 <PovAdct_w> heh, I'll have found the solution if I get it to show 42 :)

08:20 <ChristmasCoder> on mine, the part where the watch band attaches broke

08:20 <PovAdct_w> the backlight has been broken for a year or two (also since I once dropped it)

08:21 <ChristmasCoder> the metal that holds the watch band finally basically rotted away - I wore the same watch for about 30 years

08:21 <PovAdct_w> o_o

08:21 <ChristmasCoder> Casio digital watch

08:22 * PovAdct_w watches his watch go from 9:41:59 to 9:40:00 yet again

08:23 <hawmps> it's broke.

08:23 <PovAdct_w> ya think?

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10:37 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

10:37 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: -0.4F / -18.0C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Sunny in the morning then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High around 10. West wind around 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tonight - Cloudy. Not as cold. A chance of snow early in the evening...then (1 more message)

10:37 <wdsmia_w> &more

10:37 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: snow likely late in the evening. A chance of snow after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low around 10. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Tuesday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. South wind 10 to 20 mph.;

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10:45 <PovAdct_w> ugh

10:45 <PovAdct_w> another power outage at home?

10:46 <PovAdct_w> nope, PovAddict still sends auto-away

10:46 <PovAdct_w> wonder wtf is going on with ssh

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11:38 * Tank_Master now has 13" of the white stuff

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11:56 <hawmps> nice mess..

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12:15 <ELGono> http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat7466536.pdf

12:15 <ELGono> The core ingredient is an aluminum coated barium titanate powder immersed in a polyethylene terephthalate plastic matrix. The EESU is composed of 31,353 of these components arranged in parallel. It is said to have a total capacitance of 30.693 F and can hold 52.220 kWh of energy. The device is said to have a weight of 281.56 pound including the box and all hardware. Unlike lithium-ion cells, the technology is said not to degrade with cycling and thus h

12:15 <ELGono> ted lifetime. It is mentioned the device cannot explode when being charge or impacted and is thus safe for vehicles."

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12:16 <ELGono> thats really not bad

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12:32 <DerMeister> cannot explode when impacted? I wonder what would happen if you short-cut one of these things o_O

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12:38 <dashs> In boincmgr I get ivalid password no matter what I have in gui_rpc_auth.cfg or remote_hosts.cfg

12:39 <MTughan> DerMeister: You mean short-circuit?

12:39 <DerMeister> Yes, thanks :)

12:39 <MTughan> dashs: Did you restart the client after modifying those files?

12:39 <dashs> eh, mebbe not

12:40 <MTughan> Because it only reads those files on startup, not every so often or when a computer tries to connect.

12:40 <dashs> Or any reasonable time

12:44 <dashs> That's about 180 out from intuitive, but given the app, it makes a little sense.

13:15 <Tidus> &weather 65647

13:15 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 20.9F / -6.2C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly sunny early in the afternoon then becoming partly sunny. Cold. Highs in the mid 20s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy...breezy. Lows in the lower 20s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph early in the (1 more message)

13:16 <Tidus> &more

13:16 <Romulus> Tidus: evening increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the late evening and overnight.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Chance of light freezing drizzle and light sleet in the morning...then light rain likely in the afternoon. Breezy. Highs in the lower 40s. South winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent.;

13:50 <hawmps> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap081222.html

13:50 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 December 22 - Labtayt Sulci on Saturns Enceladus (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

13:50 <hawmps> really nice

13:51 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news December 22, 2008

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14:46 <ChristmasCoder> &wx 45140

14:46 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 19.9F / -6.7C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly sunny. Highs around 18. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill values as low as 9 below.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows 10 to 15. South winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

14:46 <MTughan> 'lo CC

14:46 <ChristmasCoder> hey MTughan

14:46 <Tidus> hey CC

15:25 <ChristmasCoder> hey Tidus

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15:57 <xcamel> re-hi (hack choke cough sneeze)

16:18 <PovAddict> why? is it any cold there?

16:29 <xcamel> oh yeah..

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16:34 <mweltin> Tank_Master: you there?

16:38 <xcamel> 14F and howling winds...

16:38 <xcamel> way too early in the year, no sign of letting up much..

16:38 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 13.5F / -10.3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Blowing Snow | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Blowing snow. Windy. Near steady temperature around 16. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows (1 more message)

16:39 <xcamel> &more

16:39 <Romulus> xcamel: around 11. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...becoming southwest around 5 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on December 22, 2008;

16:40 <mweltin> and to think I was in American Samoa just three weeks ago.

16:41 <xcamel> was it warm there?

16:41 <PovAddict> it will be unix timestamp 1230000000 in 5 hours

16:41 <PovAddict> hey mweltin

16:42 <xcamel> is there supposed to be some big big party over that?

16:42 <PovAddict> xcamel: no, not for that one

16:43 <mweltin> xcamel very warm

16:43 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000000000seconds.jpg <- but this countdown picture is from a party in Denmark waiting for the billion timestamp

16:43 <mweltin> hey Pov

16:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9b7rll> (at en.wikipedia.org)

16:43 <mweltin> I'm up in Portland now.

16:44 <mweltin> almost snowed in

16:44 <mweltin> this is BS.

16:44 <mweltin> I was hoping I could meet up with Tank while I'm in town.

16:44 <xcamel> like 18" of snow before Christmas isn't ??

16:45 <mweltin> and Portland shuts down after 3 inches.

16:47 <FreeLarry58> 18 inches in my yard at port orchard

16:47 <FreeLarry58> but beginning to melt today

16:47 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

16:47 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 33.3F / 0.7C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy. Scattered snow showers...tapering off this afternoon. Additional accumulation well under one inch. Highs in the lower to mid 30s. North wind to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows 19 to 26. South (1 more message)

16:47 <FreeLarry58> &more

16:47 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: wind to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. Southeast wind around 10 mph.;

16:48 <mweltin> &wx 96799

16:48 <Romulus> mweltin: Temperature: 85F / 29.4C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 11mph / 17.7km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Variable winds 10 mph...with higher gusts in showers.; Tonight and Thursday - Scattered showers with isolated thunderstorms. Lows near 80. High near 90. (1 more message)

16:48 <mweltin> man i miss that

16:48 <xcamel> another storm tomorrow, then one on the weekend... next one will be sleet to rain...

16:49 <xcamel> for xmas eve

16:49 <FreeLarry58> yeah they talking nasty starting again tomorrow late afternoon here

16:49 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx berlin, germany

16:49 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 44.6°F / 7.0°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 10.7mph / 17.2km/h | Updated: 10:43 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:44 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:37 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:39 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F.; Chance of Rain. High:41 F.; Overcast. Low:30 F.;

16:49 <xcamel> stop sending them east, larry... send them to canada...

16:50 <xcamel> like waaaay north...

16:50 <FreeLarry58> lol sent the last south to portland - sorry mweltin

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16:50 <PovAddict> &wx eze

16:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ARST; Scattered Clouds. High:80 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.; Clear. High:91 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F.;

16:50 <PovAddict> cooled down :)

16:50 * PovAddict hides from wdsmia

16:51 <xcamel> I's take it..

16:51 * FreeLarry58 set fans to super speed and aims south and west so weather can come back at PovAddict

16:52 <xcamel> Poor doug has been getting brutalized out there

16:52 * wdsmia_w thows a Ice Ball at PovAddict

16:52 <FreeLarry58> really - i feel sorry for doug

16:52 * FreeLarry58 dances for joy that he longer resides in Iowa

16:53 <FreeLarry58> at least at times like this

16:53 <wdsmia_w> time to go out into the cold bbiab

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16:54 <xcamel> this is really late jan/feb weather for us

16:55 <PovAddict> I'm going to Spain in feb

16:56 <PovAddict> my granddad said it's WAY too cold in January

16:57 <xcamel> My wife and daughter will be in Spain, and the French Riv in feb.

16:58 <KathrynM> holy cow, mweltin is here.

16:58 <mweltin> I'm in Portland for a few weeks

16:58 <mweltin> got a job at PSU

16:58 <mweltin> how are you Kathryn

16:59 <mweltin> I'm pushing for a boinc project at work, but they are using something called condor.

17:00 <FreeLarry58> http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor/

17:00 <Romulus> Title: Condor Project Homepage (at www.cs.wisc.edu)

17:01 <KathrynM> I'm OK mweltin

17:01 <KathrynM> congrats on the job

17:01 <mweltin> thanks

17:02 <KathrynM> I'll be signing a new contract soon.

17:02 <mweltin> my first pick was Hawaii but I never got so much as a bite on all my resumes.

17:02 <KathrynM> working on getting a bit more money out of my boss

17:02 <mweltin> cool

17:02 <mweltin> who isn't

17:02 <KathrynM> yeah well.  can't have everything :-)

17:02 * KathrynM goes back into lurk mode. Gotta test to write, which is why she's awake at 7 am.

17:08 <ChristmasCoder> wb mweltin

17:08 <PovAddict> I'll be getting more money soon too \o/

17:08 <ChristmasCoder> hey PovAddict

17:09 * ChristmasCoder sneaks a wave to the lurking KathrynM

17:11 <PovAddict> "Open source success due to Microsoft, claims report"

17:11 <PovAddict> this I gotta see

17:11 <PovAddict> lol "In a related story, success of gazelles is due to lions"

17:12 <mweltin> hahaha

17:12 <ChristmasCoder> http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/122208_minnesota.jpg

17:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7dc9da> (at www.foxnews.com)

17:12 <ChristmasCoder> go figure

17:13 <FreeLarry58> humm reader must have eyes like mine and cant stay on the same line with both eyes

17:13 <ChristmasCoder> pretty amazing

17:15 <ChristmasCoder> we live in the greatest democracy money can buy

17:16 <PovAddict> "At a time of economic uncertainty, Microsoft serves as a Wal-Mart of software, offering high-volume, low-cost products, a Microsoft executive said in an interview."

17:16 <PovAddict> they have underpaid people selling crap?

17:16 <PovAddict> that's the walmart stereotype I know about

17:16 <FreeLarry58> sounds about right PovAddict

17:16 <mweltin> good lord

17:16 <ChristmasCoder> high volume they want, low cost they don't want

17:17 <FreeLarry58> no low cost for them high cost for us ChristmasCoder

17:17 <FreeLarry58> and high volume

17:17 <ChristmasCoder> ah yes

17:18 * FreeLarry58 thinks about time to try and finc chains/cables for car again maybe some got back in the stores

17:18 <FreeLarry58> tca

17:19 <ChristmasCoder> cya

17:32 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:34 <ChristmasCoder> wb wdsmia

17:34 <wdsmia> its still cold out there

17:36 <Tidus> hello #

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17:38 <Tidus> and good lord it's cold outside :(

17:38 <Tidus> &weather 65647

17:38 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 25.9F / -3.4C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1029.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy...windy. Temperatures nearly steady in the lower 20s. South winds 15 to 25 mph.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Chance of light freezing drizzle and light sleet in the morning...then a chance of light freezing rain and light (2 more messages)

17:38 <xcamel> back from dinner

17:38 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:38 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 10.2F / -12.1C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Not as cold. A chance of snow early in the evening...then snow likely late in the evening. A chance of snow after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low around 10. Temperature steady or slowly rising (2 more messages)

17:39 <Tidus> &zipinfo 50319

17:39 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Des Moines; State: IA; County: Polk; Area Code: 515; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.5929 (North); Longitude: 93.6001 (West)

17:39 <Tidus> ah yes, i shoulda remembered that.

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17:43 <mweltin> later eveyone

17:43 <Tidus> seeya mw

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17:48 <ChristmasCoder> din-din bbl

17:48 <Tidus> seeya

17:50 <xcamel> nice warm chicken chilli

17:50 <Tidus> sounds yummy

17:50 <xcamel> er chili even

17:51 <xcamel> kind of hit the spot..

17:55 <FreeLarry58> b - yeah got a set of cables right off the truck so friday commute may be a little safer

17:55 <Tidus> wb larry

17:55 <FreeLarry58> howdy Tidus

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18:02 <KathrynM> yum chili sounds great

18:03 <Tidus> hi KathrynM

18:03 <Tidus> and how's it going, larry?

18:05 <FreeLarry58> not to bad today - just overworked back yesterday digging out the driveway

18:06 <Tidus> that's cool

18:06 <Tidus> i had to dig my car out of the mud, so i feel your pain

18:06 <xcamel> ditto on the over worked

18:07 <xcamel> full cleanout 2 days in a row

18:07 <FreeLarry58> lol got at least 16 inches of snow in front yard so you can imagine the fun of clearing a 4 car driveway

18:07 <Tidus> ouch

18:07 <FreeLarry58> car was setting axil deep in driveway

18:07 <xcamel> um... 18", 4 car drive, barn gates, etc etc

18:08 <FreeLarry58> yah but imagine you have blade for tractor jay

18:08 <FreeLarry58> and a little more use to heavy snows

18:09 <xcamel> plenty of heavy equipment, but it's still hard work

18:09 * FreeLarry58 was hoping to avoid this stuff by retiring to washington near sound

18:09 * wdsmia does Snoopy Dance 1,000,138 at LHC

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18:09 <FreeLarry58> congrats doug - now you going to leave a little for the rest of us?

18:10 <xcamel> no one else can get any while he's at it..

18:10 <Rookie_69> As little as possible.

18:10 <FreeLarry58> lol

18:10 <FreeLarry58> been getting a few but most get canceled by server before they start

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18:12 <Crewsr3> is anyone here apart of the rosetta project?

18:12 <FreeLarry58> just crunch for the project here

18:13 <FreeLarry58> doug my lhc Total credit 211,536

18:13 <FreeLarry58> Recent average credit 111.23

18:13 <wdsmia> http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/top_users.php?sort_by=total_credit

18:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3mgz6g> (at lhcathome.cern.ch)

18:14 <FreeLarry58> ahh i see you aiming for spot one

18:14 <Rookie_69> I got home from that unmentionable place tonight, and the power had been off. All but one box had shut off. I'm trying to warm it back up in here now. Brr.

18:14 <Crewsr3> is the rosetta server down again?

18:14 <FreeLarry58> lol Rookie_69 they still trying to get power to 1200+ in this county from last night - i lucked out and only lost power for 30 secs

18:16 <FreeLarry58> Crewsr3 looks like up but sometimes they get shared memory errors that take a wwhile to clear

18:16 <FreeLarry58> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_status.php

18:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5m5nl9> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

18:16 <Rookie_69> The power crews weren't going up in the buckets overnight with 140 km/h gusts.

18:16 <FreeLarry58> don't blame them Rookie_69

18:16 <Crewsr3> FreeLarry58, my client has been trying to upload finished work for over 12 hours now

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18:17 <FreeLarry58> humm try shutting down boinc manager then restarting it - sometimes the dns doesn't clear on my machines and that seems to get it to go

18:18 <Crewsr3> FreeLarry58, I have rebooted my computer a few times today and it does not help

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18:18 <FreeLarry58> ugg router memory? or isp troubles most likely then

18:19 <FreeLarry58> just uploaded some rosetta units less than an hour ago

18:19 <PovAddict> http_debug might help

18:19 * FreeLarry58 is very dumb and doesn't know what http_degbug is

18:20 <Tank_Master> I see I mised mw

18:20 <FreeLarry58> hes in portland currently but snowed in

18:20 <Crewsr3> FreeLarry58, ok, I will look into it, thanks

18:20 <PovAddict> Crewsr3: what OS?

18:21 * FreeLarry58 bows to the guru PovAddict

18:21 <Crewsr3> ubuntu, but I just set up a smoothwall firewall, am I'm thinking that is the problem

18:21 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13747

18:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9s7lt2> (at www.dailytech.com)

18:21 <Soul_keeper> lol "Uranus Springs water"

18:22 * FreeLarry58 heads upstairs for homemaid chips and dip

18:25 * Rookie_69 wonders when Larry traded the wife in for a maid.

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18:30 <Tidus> lol

18:31 <xcamel> you beat me to it..

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18:54 <FreeLarry58> maid made same same

18:55 <FreeLarry58> wifes been stuck at the base since thursday due to snow closure

18:55 <PovAddict> "dude, you don't buy a dishwasher, you marry one"

18:55 * FreeLarry58 takes off apron

18:55 <FreeLarry58> nope you buy a dishwasher you marry a spending machine

18:55 * PovAddict hides from the lady (-ies?) in the channel

18:56 <PovAddict> lol larry

18:56 * FreeLarry58 proudly shows off target on forehead

18:56 <Rookie_69> :-)

18:57 * FreeLarry58 thinks target only thing hiding hole in head

18:59 <FreeLarry58> pirates grahic in holiday spirits i see - xmas tree in cube - running about 8 minutes

19:00 <FreeLarry58> but graphic doesn't shut down after wu complete

19:03 <PovAddict> hmm

19:03 <PovAddict> how can a brand new DVD-R straight out of the box have a few scratches?

19:03 <Rookie_69> Brand-used.

19:04 <wdsmia> frisby tounament at factory

19:04 <Soul_keeper> racing stripes :)

19:04 * PovAddict is burning it from the command line

19:05 <PovAddict> GUIs are for the weak

19:05 * Soul_keeper agrees

19:05 <PovAddict> $ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/home/nicolas/image.iso

19:05 <Soul_keeper> does that pipe it thru cdrecord ?

19:06 <PovAddict> no, it does its own burning

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19:08 <Soul_keeper> interesting, must be a recent development

19:08 <PovAddict> "growisofs was originally designed to facilitate appending of data to ISO9660 volumes on random-access media such as plain files. In the course of development general purpose DVD recording support was implemented, and as of now growisofs supports mastering of multisession DVD media such as DVD+R and DVD-R/-RW. In addition growisofs supports first-/single-session recording of arbitrary pre-mastered image to all supported DVD media types."

19:09 <Soul_keeper> yeah just checked the manpage myself

19:11 <Soul_keeper> probably shares source with cdrecord

19:11 <PovAddict> hmm you could quickly burn multiple discs :)

19:11 <Soul_keeper> the joys of gpl :)

19:12 <PovAddict> for i in 1 2 3 4; do eject -t && growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=image$i.iso && eject && read; done

19:12 <PovAddict> will eject when it finishes burning first CD

19:12 <PovAddict> you swap discs, press Enter in console, and it will put tray back in and burn next

19:12 <Soul_keeper> nice

19:13 <PovAddict> I guess you could add some robotics to automate disc swapping

19:13 <PovAddict> :D

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19:19 <PovAddict> wow these DVDs are burning much faster

19:19 <PovAddict> /dev/dvd: "Current Write Speed" is 18.4x1352KBps.

19:19 <PovAddict> still hasn't reached max speed though

19:20 <PovAddict>   606961664/1864892416 (32.5%) @9.4x, remaining 2:00 RBU 100.0% UBU  95.9%

19:21 <PovAddict> 910592*2KB out @ average 9.4x1352KBps

19:23 <Tidus> PovAddict: lucky you. my dvd writer is 8x max

19:23 <Tidus> my old one was 16 but was lucky to get 12

19:24 <PovAddict> 1072300032/1864892416 (57.5%) @10.7x, remaining 1:06 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0%

19:24 <PovAddict> that's on yet another DVD

19:24 <PovAddict> (I'm burning multiple copies)

19:25 <PovAddict> I once burned like 40 copies of CDs, using two burners

19:25 <PovAddict> one of them stopped working after a while

19:25 <PovAddict> but worked again a few hours later

19:25 <PovAddict> I think it was overheat self-protection

19:25 <Tidus> overheated the laser?

19:25 <PovAddict> I think it refused to work *before* overheating too much

19:26 <Tidus> cool

19:26 <Tidus> i've got two burners on this laptop

19:26 <Tidus> the 8x internal, and a 16x thru usb

19:26 <PovAddict> I know it didn't melt out because it was working fine a while later

19:26 <PovAddict> damn this disc got hot

19:26 <Tidus> wanna know how i keep them from melting down into a puddle of slag?

19:27 <Tidus> turn your burn speed down to roughly half

19:27 <PovAddict> I'm not even setting a burn speed

19:27 <Tidus> it defaults to max if you dont set one

19:28 <Tidus> are you using growisofs to burn?

19:28 <Tidus> or a gui program?

19:28 <PovAddict> growisofs

19:28 <PovAddict> &last --with weak

19:28 <Romulus> PovAddict: [19:05:04] <PovAddict> GUIs are for the weak

19:29 <Tidus> there should be an option that sets burn speed

19:29 <PovAddict> I didn't bother to look

19:29 <PovAddict> -burn

19:29 <PovAddict> er

19:29 <PovAddict> -speed

19:29 <PovAddict> I read your message when I switched to this window and had a brain fart :P

19:30 <Tidus> lol

19:30 <Tidus> i get those quite often

19:30 <PovAddict> -speed=N

19:30 <Tidus> set it to half the speed of your slowest burner

19:31 <PovAddict> I have only one burner on this computer

19:31 <Tidus> they'll still complete in reasonable time and wont heat up your discs to the point they're too hot to touch

19:31 <PovAddict> and burning DVDs

19:31 <Tidus> mine's an 8x burner internal to the laptop, so i set it at 4x

19:31 <Rookie_69> NN.

19:31 <Tidus> takes a little longer but the discs aren't too hot to touch and they're more reliable

19:32 <Tidus> seeya Rookie_69

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19:51 <efc> Moo

19:52 <Tidus> oom

19:52 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:53 <efc> The monitor is ordered. CFL will be blamed for all problems.

19:53 <Tidus> heh

19:56 <Soul_keeper> what monitor ?

19:57 <efc> the HP

20:01 <efc> pooey, no SCC tonight

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20:09 <FreeLarry58> humm looks like rectilinear down again

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20:40 <xcamel> damn.. back down to the single digits

20:44 <wdsmia> warming up here but then again it would be hard to get colder

20:46 <wdsmia> up to 12F

20:47 <efc> Where again wdsmia?

20:48 <MTughan> West Des Moines, Iowa.

20:48 <efc> Ah, I bet. Wonder how North Dakota is doing.

20:48 <xcamel> 7F here now

20:48 <efc> &wx Pierre

20:48 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 2:30 AM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:44 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.; Clear. High:44 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:33 F.; Overcast. High:44 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F.;

20:49 <zombie67> i have an 8-way with two cores sitting idle

20:49 <efc> &wx Bismark, ND

20:49 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 41°F / 5°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 2:20 AM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:42 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:40 F.; Chance of Rain. High:42 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:35 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F.;

20:50 <zombie67> it refuses to ask for work, from the one project with work available

20:50 <efc> I had a box doing that last night zombie

20:50 <zombie67> oops, now 4 cores idle

20:51 <zombie67> It's running 6.4.5...wonder if upgrading to 6.5 would help

20:52 <zombie67> were you able to solve it somehow?

20:52 <efc> nope, turned if off :p

20:53 <PovAddict> zombie67: I wonder if 6.5 has some last-week (not to say last-minute) fixes that were done in 6.4 branch...

20:53 <PovAddict> so I think 6.5 would be worse in that area

20:53 <PovAddict> if you want it to *work*, get a 6.2 and give up CUDA

20:54 <zombie67> I just upgraded to 6.5

20:54 <efc> i was running 5.10.45 n that machine

20:54 <zombie67> I will give it some time to think about getting work

20:54 <xcamel> the entire cuda thing should be optional, and not be bloating the code

20:55 <PovAddict> the entire cuda thing was done by hacking and patching existing code

20:55 <zombie67> anhone sucessfully downgraded from 6.4 or 6.5 to 6.2?

20:55 <zombie67> anyone successfully ..

20:55 <xcamel> seems not

20:56 <PovAddict> I never went to 6.4

20:56 <zombie67> down to 6 idle cores now

20:56 <zombie67> ugh

20:56 <zombie67> 6.2.18 was the last of the windows 6.2?

20:57 <PovAddict> .19

20:57 <PovAddict> there were versions up to .28 but only for the special WCG builds

20:58 <zombie67> I need a later build to run WCG?

21:00 <PovAddict> no

21:00 <PovAddict> WCG said "fix X and Y or we'll keep recommending 5.10.45"

21:01 <zombie67> hmmm....6.2.18 is stuck installing...

21:01 <PovAddict> Didactylos was quite involved in that process, ask him :)

21:01 <zombie67> he has been missing the past several days

21:02 <ChristmasCoder> Didactylos is known for his opinions

21:02 <PovAddict> he has been missing in #boinc the past months

21:02 <ChristmasCoder> since the big blow-up

21:02 <PovAddict> he had less patience than me about the constant US-election-related talk in here

21:02 <zombie67> big blow up?

21:02 <zombie67> ah

21:03 <zombie67> he has also been missing from #WCG

21:03 <ChristmasCoder> &dict slander

21:03 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: slander n 1: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another 2: an abusive attack on a person's character or good name [syn: {aspersion}, {calumny}, {defamation}, {denigration}] v : charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The (24 more messages)

21:03 <PovAddict> that i don't know about; I don't even remember what network #WCG is in

21:03 <MTughan> Didactylos is online.

21:03 <zombie67> irc.mWare.ca

21:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: as online as Drevor is...

21:04 <MTughan> Better than nothing. At least he can be flashed.

21:04 <PovAddict> yeah

21:04 <PovAddict> meh

21:04 <PovAddict> should go to sleep

21:04 <PovAddict> w$%& tomorrow

21:05 <zombie67> ick

21:05 <ChristmasCoder> I am offline

21:05 <efc> Doesn't it have to be falsely AND malicious intent?

21:05 <ChristmasCoder> gn folks

21:05 <ChristmasCoder> oh um

21:05 <ChristmasCoder> I didn't like his false accusations

21:05 <efc> night CC, I blame all future monitor problem on you, sleep tight

21:06 <xcamel> laterz..

21:06 <zombie67> ding!  6.2.19 is asking for work as it ought to

21:06 * PovAddict is doing accusations too

21:06 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/ticket/802#comment:2

21:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/axzp65> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

21:06 * efc RMAs to ChristmasCoder

21:06 * ChristmasCoder holds out the bit bucket

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21:06 <zombie67> heh

21:07 * ChristmasCoder slinks away

21:07 <xcamel> yeah.. he was real good at that..

21:08 <MTughan> ChristmasCoder: efc got his monitor. Says if they're any problems, your fault. :P

21:08 <MTughan> <efc> The monitor is ordered. CFL will be blamed for all problems

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21:08 <efc> Its only been ordered, its non-timey arrival will also be directly traced to CFL.

21:09 <efc> He's the GWB of LCD monitors.

21:10 <efc> I guess I'll give s@h some cash while my credit card is already sagging under the weight..

21:11 <efc> Maybe I could sell them some debt

21:11 <MTughan> Heh.

21:11 <MTughan> There was someone in #rieselsieve earlier (diepchess) who said that SETI's CUDA app was inefficient.

21:12 <MTughan> In essence. There was a lot more discussion than just that, but still.

21:12 <efc> Wouldn't be suprising for version 1.0

21:12 <PovAddict> it was as rushed as BOINC 6.4, so no surprises

21:12 <efc> Anyway I'm sure not every app fits CUDA or its hardware well

21:13 <PovAddict> not at all

21:13 * ChristmasCoder cares about nothing when he's sleeping

21:13 <Tidus> heh

21:13 <PovAddict> not even every app fits BOINC, sometimes you need a single 32-core with 256GB of RAM machine because of the heavy data dependencies

21:22 <PovAddict> zombie67: ping

21:25 <efc> wonder if they'd take this stupid $15 rebate postcard

21:26 <efc> its interesting if you give to the red cross

21:26 <efc> their form has various salutations.. Ambassador, President, Prime Ministor, Bishop, etc

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21:36 <zombie67> crap, same problem on another machine.  But on that second machine, I cannot get 6.2.19 to install.

21:37 <PovAddict> sleep ->

21:38 <MTughan> Night Pov.

21:38 <zombie67> so now I can't run BOINC at all

21:43 <PovAddict> whine where the devs can hear you

21:45 <zombie67> I also can't get to the point where I can uninstall

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21:57 <Tidus> &weather 65647

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22:01 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder what the big deal is about CUDA - put 6.4 on this machine and it says no CUDA device but then this machine on agp card

22:03 <Tidus> yeah, have to have PCI-E to be able to use cuda

22:03 <Tidus> otherwise not enough bandwidth

22:05 <PovAddict> Im so outdated... till not long ago I thought AGP was still the fastest connection to that kind of card

22:05 <FreeLarry58> ah well only got one machine then that may work with it but its unstable

22:06 * PovAddict stays away from hardware stuff

22:06 <FreeLarry58> ohhh PovAddict its been close to 2 years or more since change over

22:06 * PovAddict notes he has never opened the case of his current computer

22:07 <FreeLarry58> lol not a problem

22:07 <FreeLarry58> if its not broke don't fix it

22:07 <PovAddict> I should, and give it a cleaning

22:07 * FreeLarry58 has had several die shortly after cleaning them

22:08 <PovAddict> :O

22:08 <FreeLarry58> run them till they die then replace

22:08 <Tidus> i clean mine often

22:08 <Tidus> playing games on a dust clogged laptop shuts it down

22:08 <FreeLarry58> i vacumm outside and occasionally blow them out

22:09 <FreeLarry58> only one lappy here most are mid towers

22:09 <Tidus> two machines here

22:09 <Tidus> my lappy and an open-to-the-world celeron built into my entertainment center

22:09 <FreeLarry58> 8 machines now in house 2 over at bil

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22:55 <zombie67> is there a server status page for WCG?

22:59 <Soul_keeper> we are doomed !!!  http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Submarines-Windows-Royal-Navy,6718.html   windows powers nuclear subs

22:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n> (at www.tomshardware.com)

23:02 <zombie67> amazing.  ALL the projects I am currently running are down:  uFluids, RCN, WCG.

23:02 <Soul_keeper> it might be you ...

23:02 <zombie67> probably...

23:05 <MTughan> I'll be so glad to get rid of this laptop... With the CPU fan not running properly (only going up to half speed now), nothing's being cooled properly. 50C steady on everything, no CPU load.

23:06 <MTughan> Except on the battery and hard drive.

23:09 <Soul_keeper> microsoft windows on nuclear subs !?!?!   am i the only one frightened by this ?

23:09 <MTughan> It's XP and 2000, not Vista. And it's isolated.

23:10 <Soul_keeper> so was the skynet ...

23:10 <MTughan> The Skynet?

23:10 <Soul_keeper> skynet  from terminator

23:10 <MTughan> Terminator the movie?

23:10 <Soul_keeper> sure

23:10 <MTughan> Don't trust the movies for truth.

23:10 <Soul_keeper> the computer that took over the world and stuff

23:11 <Soul_keeper> althought i doubt MS could mastermind that ...  more likely to BSOD while aiming or something

23:11 <Soul_keeper> or NOT aiming

23:12 * Soul_keeper leaves

23:12 <Tidus> MTughan: what laptop are you looking to get rid of ?

23:13 <MTughan> MacBook. Apple's taking it back and shipping out a new one.

23:13 <MTughan> I've had almost nothing but trouble with it.

23:14 <Tidus> ah

23:18 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/RV740-HD4830-GDDR5,6720.html  amd pushing 40nm GPUs now

23:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7ahca8> (at www.tomshardware.com)

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23:26 <Tidus> did i just disconnect?

23:26 <MTughan> Yep.

23:26 <MTughan> Only message you might've missed: <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/RV740-HD4830-GDDR5,6720.html  amd pushing 40nm GPUs now

23:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7ahca8> (at www.tomshardware.com)

23:26 <Tidus> guess i did

23:27 <Soul_keeper> funny that card has the exact same mem bandwidth as the card i just ordered ...

23:27 <Soul_keeper> aimed in the same price range too

23:27 <MTughan> I think the only things different is the manufacturing process and GDDR5 mem.

23:28 <Soul_keeper> yeah it's a budget card,  latest technology tho

23:28 <MTughan> Just like they did with the 4870 and 4850.

23:28 <Soul_keeper> cheaper to make with 40nm and 128-bit data paths

23:28 <MTughan> Not budget cards as much, but much more affordable than Nvidia's offerings at the time for similar performance.

23:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah

23:29 <MTughan> What, the GTX 280 took a $200 price cut? From $650 to ~$450?

23:29 <Soul_keeper> seems amd/ati is nearly exactely 1yr ahead in process tech as it stands now

23:29 <Soul_keeper> nvidia is getting desperate

23:30 <MTughan> They're only starting to go to 55nm, let alone the 40nm AMD is pushing.

23:30 <Soul_keeper> rather see them stick it to intel than nvidia ....

23:30 <Soul_keeper> yeah amd/ati had 55nm in november 07'

23:30 <MTughan> The 9800GTX+ was the first card to go 55, the new GTX series are next up. The current GT 200 series are all 65nm.

23:32 <Soul_keeper> they are putting everything they have into the video cards it seems ...  aren't hearing about 40nm cpu's

23:32 <MTughan> Because the next move will be to 32nm in CPUs.

23:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah 40nm might be a half-node

23:33 <MTughan> And they just released the Shanghai server proc, Phenom II up next. Both bring better performance, and AMD's move to 45nm.

23:33 <Soul_keeper> just as 55 was

23:33 <Soul_keeper> still ahead in the vid cards

23:34 <Soul_keeper> focus is there, profit it there i suppose

23:34 <Soul_keeper> is*

23:34 <Tidus> MTughan: the phenom II also brings amd's move to ddr3

23:34 <Tidus> with the am3 platform

23:34 <MTughan> Because they were lagging in video cards. Apparently, AMD's stock has dropped every quarter since their acquisition of ATI.

23:34 <MTughan> Tidus: Phenom II and AM3 can support DDR3, but also DDR2.

23:35 <MTughan> It's like the X48 chipset.

23:35 <Soul_keeper> Ati is paying for itself atleast :)

23:35 <MTughan> It is now.

23:36 <Tidus> MTughan: the phenom IIs released for christmas will be ddr2 only

23:36 <Tidus> the ones next year will be 2 and 3

23:36 <MTughan> Because they're AM2+ procs.

23:36 <MTughan> AM2+ only supports DDR2.

23:36 <MTughan> And they're being released January 9th, not in time for Christmas.

23:36 <Soul_keeper> ati has been paying for itself since the beginning

23:36 <Soul_keeper> .

23:36 * Soul_keeper leaves

23:37 <MTughan> Well, Letterman's making fun of the cold weather...

23:39 <Tidus> isn't he always?

23:39 <Tidus> he's like a gajillion years old

23:40 <zombie67> years ago, he stopped being funny, and turned into a bitter old man

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23:52 <Soul_keeper> which one of you wants a pony for xmas ?

23:53 <Soul_keeper> MTughan ?

23:53 <Romulus> MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, Soul_keeper

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23:53 <Soul_keeper> forget MTughan

23:53 <Romulus> Okay.

23:53 <Soul_keeper> MTughan is in need of a pony for xmas

23:56 <Soul_keeper> nm

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