IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-12-23

00:00 <Soul_keeper> gn

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01:35 <infinisoft> Hmm, net continue doesn't seem to un-suspend BOINC.

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02:36 <efc> $850 billion ..

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03:50 <efc> Newegg only has 2 CRTs now

03:54 <ChristmasCoder> one must be yours

04:02 <efc> still have one but don't use much

04:04 <ChristmasCoder> they make excellent door stops

04:06 <efc> The anchoress's name is michele gielan

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04:11 <ChristmasCoder> hmm?

04:13 <ChristmasCoder> I hear breakfast calling   brb

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04:38 <ChristmasCoder> b

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04:56 <ChristmasCoder> &wx 45140

04:56 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: Temperature: 18.8F / -7.3C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.37in / 1028.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A chance of light snow...freezing rain and sleet by early afternoon. Freezing rain likely late. Highs in the mid 30s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Freezing (1 more message)

04:56 <ChristmasCoder> &more

04:56 <Romulus> ChristmasCoder: rain...changing to rain early. Evening lows in the mid 30s...then temperatures rising into the lower 40s after midnight. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday - Rain. Breezy with highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

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05:24 <ChristmasCoder> http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212501654&cid=nl_IWK_daily_H

05:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8hxe8h> (at www.informationweek.com)

05:24 <ChristmasCoder> Windows XP cutoff date extended

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05:33 <ChristmasCoder> wb KathrynM

05:34 <ChristmasCoder> brb

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06:36 <hawmps> 117.28.224.71 << ssh hax0rz

06:36 <ChristmasCoder> weez hatez dem hax0rz

06:37 <ChristmasCoder> sporkered

06:41 <ChristmasCoder> today is work for family day - going to tune up my Mom's PC, and go see my sister

06:45 <ChristmasCoder> laterz

06:48 <hawmps> have phun

07:13 <KathrynM> ugh.  gotta wrap a friggin secret santa gift

07:13 <KathrynM> I hate my coworkers sometimes.

07:13 <KathrynM> then I'm going to collapse.

07:15 <MTughan> KathrynM: Tell me why I played Nintendo Wii for 6 straight hours?

07:16 <hawmps> just waiting to print out the xmas gift cards..

07:16 <MTughan> It's 7:15AM now.

07:22 <DerMeister> Secret santa... That reminds me of today's comic strip on userfriendly.org ;)

07:22 <MTughan> Just read it. Stef got what he deserved. Along with his rum cake.

07:23 <DerMeister> :)

07:23 <MTughan> :o MilkyWay's out of work.

07:28 <hawmps> nothing new there

07:43 <KathrynM> MTughan, I have no idea.  How does it make you feel?

07:43 <MTughan> My finger hurts.

07:43 <KathrynM> I realized I really did not inherit my mother's gift wrapping genes.

07:44 <KathrynM> Stupid thing I wrapped looks like a retarded monkey with no thumbs did it.

07:44 <MTughan> And my spacebar on my external keyboard seems to be broken...

07:44 <KathrynM> :(

07:47 <MTughan> There. Metal bar at the back had come out.

07:48 <MTughan> Types as good as new again.

07:51 <hawmps> another one.. 202.52.238.211 ssh hack

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08:23 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

08:23 <wdsmia_w> morning

08:24 <wdsmia_w> 21F feels nice this morning

08:24 <MTughan> You're still a little warmer than us... -12C/10F here ATM.

08:25 <wdsmia_w> its not going to last :(

08:25 <MTughan> Yeah, rain tomorrow...

08:26 <wdsmia_w> snow today tomarrow ...

08:26 * wdsmia_w needs coffee

08:26 <MTughan> Forecasters were saying all of Canada will have a white Christmas, but I think we're more likely to have a gray Christmas.

08:27 <MTughan> At least it should be clear for Christmas Day.

08:31 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:31 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 20.3F / -6.5C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Not as cold. High in the lower 30s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Tonight - Snow likely. Snow accumulation (1 more message)

08:31 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:31 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: of 1 to 3 inches. Low around 15. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Colder. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

08:32 <hawmps> &wx 12020

08:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 6.0F / -14.4C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of flurries this morning...then mostly cloudy this afternoon. Highs in the mid 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation up to an inch. (2 more messages)

08:32 <hawmps> &more

08:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Lows around 20. Temperature rising into the mid 20s after midnight. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Wednesday - Snow...sleet and freezing rain in the morning. Rain. Total snow accumulation around an inch. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Not as cool with highs in the lower 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter (1 more message)

08:32 <hawmps> &more

08:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 3:00 PM EST on December 24, 2008;

08:33 <wdsmia_w> mornin Jay

08:43 <hawmps> elo

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09:31 <PovAdct_w> frisbee!

09:31 * PovAdct_w has a DVD+R that had a burn error at 93%

09:32 <PovAdct_w> I think it was due to a fingerprint near the edge

09:32 <PovAdct_w> it can't even be read

09:32 <PovAdct_w> I tried dd if=/dev/dvd of=/dev/null and near the end it gives an I/O error

09:32 <PovAdct_w> so, frisbee

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10:21 <Gnoxter> Hi, I have some trouble to install the Boinc Server. I follow the instructions on this site: http://wiki.aims.ac.za/mediawiki/index.php/Overview_of_BOINC_Server_Installation. Until make works all fine but then I get serveral erros. http://pastebin.com/d349d8f9b

10:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9f2x24> (at wiki.aims.ac.za)

10:23 <PovAdct_w> do not make install

10:23 <PovAdct_w> also

10:23 <PovAdct_w> those instructions seem old

10:23 <PovAdct_w> year and a half old

10:23 <Gnoxter> only make?

10:24 <PovAdct_w> hmm those instructions only get the BOINC dependencies installed, and the server compiled

10:24 <PovAdct_w> doesn't ever tell you how to install the server

10:26 <PovAdct_w> some conceptual stuff http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/BoincIntro http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/BasicConcepts

10:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a673br> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

10:26 <PovAdct_w> how to install server http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/MakeProject

10:26 <Romulus> Title: ServerIntro - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

10:29 <Gnoxter> ok, many stuff to read

10:29 <Gnoxter> Thanks for your help :)

10:54 <PovAdct_w> ClearQuest makes w$%& really feel like w$%&...

10:54 * PovAdct_w looks at ChristmasCoder

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11:14 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

11:14 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 47.7F / 8.7C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.29in / 991.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers. Highs 54 to 59 in the western valleys to 44 to 49 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 (2 more messages)

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12:06 <Tank_Master> hi SK

12:06 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:06 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 28.0F / -2.2C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1003.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs around 30. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Near The Gorge...east wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of snow. Lows 25 to 30. Light wind... except east wind 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.; (1 more message)

12:06 <Tank_Master> &more

12:06 <Tank_Master> &more

12:06 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Wednesday - Snow. Snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible... locally 8 inches on the higher hills. Highs around 35. South wind 5 to 15 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Winter Storm Watch for Washington County in effect until 10:00 PM PST on December 24, 2008;

12:06 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

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12:54 <quail> 'morning all

12:56 <Gnoxter> Good Morning

12:59 <quail> how are we all?

13:00 <quail> damn xmas eve morning already, it only feels like we had a xmas last week :-/

13:01 <hawmps> 'lo Q

13:01 <quail> ay Jay

13:02 <quail> &time

13:02 <Romulus> quail: 01:02 PM, December 23, 2008

13:02 <quail> &wx ypad

13:02 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 4:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:73 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:59 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:59 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F.;

13:03 * quail waiting for the ghostlands server to come back online so I can get some WoW play time in before having to finish off the xmas stuff

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14:12 <hawmps> xmzs eve eve

14:24 <ChristmasCoder> home from Mom's

14:30 <Gnoxter> -rw-r--r-- 1 boincadm boincadm 3467 2008-12-23 19:27 db.inc  <-- These are the correct permissions for the file?

14:32 <Gnoxter> I ask because I get this error message when I visit the page: Warning:  require_once(../inc/db.inc) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in

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14:39 <quail> stupid blizzard have extented the down time of all realms by 2 hours again for the 2 week in a row

14:51 <hawmps> bad weather does that..

14:58 <quail> w00t the realms are coming up :-)

14:58 * quail can get some game play in b4 finishing off the xmas related stuff :-)

15:07 <quail> maybe not the realm I use is still down :-/

15:15 <ChristmasCoder> Stephen played Stonemaul

15:16 <quail> ghostlands here

15:18 <ChristmasCoder> bbiab

15:20 <Tidus> i'm on mok'nathal

15:22 <quail> kewl

15:23 <Tidus> and the reason blizzard's been extending the downtime is they're prepping for patch 3.0.8

15:23 <quail> k

15:23 <quail> I play a feral druid

15:23 <MTughan> AQUA@Home has settled (for the time being) on a credit granting scheme of 1.8 times claimed.

15:25 <PovAddict> o_o

15:25 <MTughan> I

15:25 <PovAddict> -

15:26 <MTughan> I'm not commenting. I just tell them as they come in.

15:27 <MTughan> Well, I pulled an all-nighter last night, and so although it's only 3:30PM, it seems closer to 7:30PM by my internal clock...

15:27 <MTughan> It's really weird...

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16:05 <xcamel> re-hi

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16:55 <xcamel> nutz.. somebody took it.

17:08 <PovAddict> he hasn't used it for 4 years though

17:08 <PovAddict> you could get it back, ask in #freenode

17:08 <PovAddict> staffers usually release nicknames that haven't been used in so long if somebody asks

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17:43 <PovAddict> /dev/sda2              40G   37G  737M  99% /

17:43 <PovAddict> I'm in trouble

17:44 <DerMeister> Well, I would say there is plenty of room left :P

17:44 <DerMeister> however, there seem to be about 2GB missing ^^

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17:52 <PovAddict> /dev/sda2              40G   35G  3,1G  92% /

17:55 <PovAddict> my clock is being quite accurate now

17:56 <PovAddict> I just did an NTP sync, after not doing it for a long while, and it adjusted the clock by 0.416766 seconds

17:59 <Tidus> PovAddict: full hard disk? lol

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18:02 <PovAddict> yep Tidus

18:02 <PovAddict> now down to /dev/sda2              40G   33G  5,2G  87% /

18:03 <PovAddict> I should shrink the Windows partition and give more space to Linux

18:03 <PovAddict> but that means doing stuff first which also need other stuff done before etc

18:03 <PovAddict> which means it will never get done

18:03 <Rookie_69> I always found it easier to insert another HD.

18:05 <DerMeister> Or just accidently running rm -rf /

18:05 <Tidus> lol

18:05 <Tidus> /dev/hda3              17G  1.1G   15G   7% /

18:05 <Tidus> /dev/hda1              89M   15M   70M  18% /boot

18:05 <DerMeister> Well, I've already done that, although with ~ instad of /

18:05 <PovAddict> I once did somecommand > pastebin.sh instead of somecommand | pastebin.sh

18:05 <PovAddict> I've yet to rewrite that script

18:06 <DerMeister> hehe

18:06 <PovAddict> but when I do, I'll take write permissions out

18:07 <Rookie_69> Hmm... I seem to be running a registry cleaner on another box in OMFIS mode.

18:08 <Rookie_69> Oh My F... It's Slow.

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18:22 <dashs> Getting: 2008-12-23 16:16:04 [---] GUI RPC bind failed: -1

18:22 <dashs> over and over

18:22 <DerMeister> Are you trying to run two instances of boinc on the same machine?

18:23 <PovAddict> sounds like it

18:23 <dashs> not that I can see.

18:23 <PovAddict> how did you install BOINC?

18:23 <desti> -no_gui_rpc

18:24 <dashs> From the debian pkg

18:24 <PovAddict> desti: that doesn't exactly solve the problem :)

18:24 <dashs> Can I remove the clinet_State files or is that meaningless?

18:25 <PovAddict> dashs: if you remove it, it will forget completely about everything, like all the work you have downloaded etc

18:25 <PovAddict> and won't help in your problem

18:25 <dashs> I know, but I can't get it started nopw

18:26 <DerMeister> And you're sure that it's not already running?

18:26 <PovAddict> maybe it's already started

18:26 <PovAddict> check the process list

18:26 <DerMeister> Or is there some other program using the gui rpc port?

18:27 <dashs> Hoe bout tht it is running ... but not doing anythin

18:27 <PovAddict> there you go

18:28 <PovAddict> how were you trying to (manually) run it?

18:28 <dashs> During reboot it used the init.d startup which I failed to disable, oops.

18:29 <PovAddict> heh why not :)

18:29 <PovAddict> if you run it manually there's a high chance you won't run it from the correct working directory and/or user account...

18:29 <PovAddict> (files are already owned by 'boinc' user, if you run the client from your account, it may fail to read the files)

18:30 <dashs> My other systems use nobody, so I was trying to have it the same -- much harder to do that at all -- but its the way I started this.

18:31 <PovAddict> you could edit the init.d script, it has a variable for the username

18:31 <PovAddict> (but you'd have to fix file ownership by hand before running it again)

18:31 <dashs> I'm aware of all the permiss probs -- painful as they may be

18:31 <PovAddict> anyway

18:31 <PovAddict> what command were you using to run it manually?

18:31 <PovAddict> and giving you the GUI RPC bind error?

18:31 <dashs> Pov: just boinc

18:32 <PovAddict> Security Is Rarely Convenient

18:32 * PovAddict credits ChristmasCoder

18:32 <dashs> no jive

18:33 * dashs has not been having a great day at the console.

18:36 <dashs> Running fine now...(until the PC overheats).

18:37 <PovAddict> do you have lm_sensors?

18:37 <dashs> Pov: no sensors on this junker.

18:38 <PovAddict> aw

18:38 <Tidus> what kind of junker is it?

18:38 * ChristmasCoder smiles

18:38 <dashs> Dell SFF 2.8 ghz (thin but hot client)  109 USD

18:39 <Tidus> p4 ?

18:39 <Romulus> Rumor has it p4 is on track for 64h down to about 17h, Tidus

18:39 <Tidus> if so, it does have sensors

18:39 <Tidus> at the very least the thermal diode in the processor

18:40 <dashs> Yes the cpu will clock itself down, then thermal check, but I have a better 'handle' on it today.

18:41 <dashs> Orientation -- I had it standing up with the exhaust grill high -- did not realize that it was sitting on its intake!

18:41 <PovAddict> forget p4

18:41 <Romulus> Got it, PovAddict.

18:42 <dashs> Tidus; P4

18:43 <dashs> Tidus: it has a mounting plate -- probably to bolt onto VESA plate of an lcd panel.

18:47 <dashs> Thanks, all

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19:28 <Rookie_69> DASHS... Denver Airfield Seems High Suddenly?

19:32 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

19:32 <Rookie_69> Hello, Jay.

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19:47 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 31.6F / -0.2C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. A slight chance of snow early in the evening... then a chance of snow late in the evening. Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Low around 15. Southwest wind near 10 mph shifting to the (2 more messages)

19:47 <wdsmia> &more

19:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: northwest after midnight. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy until late afternoon then clearing. A chance of snow early in the morning...then a slight chance of snow late in the morning. Colder. High 15 to 20. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Colder. Low zero to 5 above. Temperature steady (1 more message)

19:47 <wdsmia> &more

19:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: or slowly rising after midnight. West wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the south after midnight.;

19:49 <efc> moo

19:50 <PovAddict> &cyborg dashs

19:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: D.A.S.H.S.: Digital Artificial Soldier Hardwired for Sabotage

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19:52 <Tidus> &cyborg Tidus

19:52 <Romulus> Tidus: T.I.D.U.S.: Transforming Individual Designed for Ultimate Sabotage

19:53 <wdsmia> &cyborg Rookie

19:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: R.O.O.K.I.E.: Robotic Organism Optimized for Killing and Immediate Exploration

19:54 <Tidus> so far so good on my gentoo install

19:54 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:55 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 15.3°F / -9.3°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.56in / 1034.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h | Updated: 8:54 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness near midnight with 30 percent chance of flurries overnight. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low -11C(12F) with (2 more messages)

19:55 <Rookie_69> &more

19:55 <Romulus> Rookie_69: temperature rising to -5C(23F) by morning.; Wednesday - Cloudy. 30 percent chance of flurries early in the morning. Light snow beginning in the morning changing to rain early in the afternoon. Snowfall amount 2 cm(0.8 in) inland. Wind becoming southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) in the morning. High 5C(41F). Wednesday night periods of rain. Amount 10 to 20 mm. Wind (1 more message)

19:55 <Rookie_69> &more

19:55 <Romulus> Rookie_69: southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) increasing to 50 km/h (31 mph) gusting to 80 km/h (50 mph) overnight. Low 5C(41F) with temperature rising to 9C(48F) by morning.; Thursday - Periods of rain. Windy. High 9C(48F).;

19:55 <Tidus> &weather 65647

19:55 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 46.3F / 7.9C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Light rain and light freezing rain likely in the evening...then a chance of light rain and light snow after midnight. No snow accumulation. Breezy. Lows in the lower 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts (2 more messages)

19:55 <Tidus> &more

19:55 <Romulus> Tidus: to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.; Wednesday - Considerable cloudiness. A 30 percent chance of light freezing drizzle and light snow in the morning. Breezy. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds 15 to 25 mph in the morning becoming northwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 20. Light and variable winds until early morning becoming (1 more message)

19:55 <Tidus> &more

19:55 <Romulus> Tidus: southeast around 10 mph during the predawn hours.;

19:57 <ChristmasCoder> roads improving with the rise in temperature - ice is melting

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20:08 <xcamel> not quite here yet...

20:09 <xcamel> not for lack of trying though

20:28 <Rookie_69> Past my bedtime... NN.

20:28 <wdsmia> &nn

20:28 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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21:32 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:58 <efc> For my next system maybe I'll go for one of those solid state disks for the system drive..

21:59 <efc> Anybody ever observed how the activity would be split between an OS and App drive like that?

22:04 <PovAddict> I never had more than one physical disk on a computer

22:04 <efc> I have two right now, one is just a mass data / backup

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22:30 <Tidus> efc: an SSD would be detected just like a standard hard disk

22:31 <efc> Yeah, I just wonder if the load would be distributed nicely.. if using it for the OS would get most of the speed benefits

22:32 <Tidus> why split it?

22:32 <Tidus> fragmentation isn't an issue, as access times are <0.2ms

22:32 <efc> because the SSDs aren't that big yet

22:32 <Tidus> they make 256gb ssds

22:32 <efc> Well yeah, they make them ..

22:35 <Tidus> but even a 128gb unit would be plenty for os and programs

22:38 <Soul_keeper> they make them as big as you want long as you got the $$$

22:38 <efc> pretty wild price disparities, looks like $250 and up for a 128g

22:39 <efc> I've heard that right now the Intels are the only ones really worth getting

22:39 <efc> I would think the others will catch up though

22:39 <Tidus> there's a 256 g-skill unit that can reach 170mb/sec read and 100 write

22:40 <efc> the $100 for a 32gig I could stomach though, maybe even as a novelty

22:41 <Tidus> 32gb wouldn't be big enough for me lol

22:41 <efc> My current OS(2k)/programs would fit

22:42 <Tidus> i have a game or two that require vista

22:42 <efc> Seems like I tried installing to non-C drives once and some programs don't like it

22:43 <Tidus> i dual boot vista and linux

22:43 <efc> There are $75 32 gig drives on Newegg, and then there's the $719 Intel 32 gig

22:44 <efc> oh, thats "enterprise" whatever that means

22:44 <Tidus> means it's got dram backup

22:44 <efc> Ah cool

22:44 <Tidus> speed increase

22:44 <efc> I predict in 3 years MS will have erased all the performance benefits of SD though

22:45 <Soul_keeper> yep

22:45 <efc> I guess in theory though, a filesystem could take advantage of the random access more. Maybe Linux will.

22:49 <efc> Wonder if you put some SSDs in a raid, if the raid would end up being the bottleneck..

22:49 <efc> two of those Intels would hit the 3 gb/sec limit

22:50 <Tidus> probably

22:51 <Tidus> i'm thinking about getting a 256gb ssd and a 500 standard for this laptop

22:52 <Soul_keeper> my 10K raptor is plenty fast for me

22:52 <efc> Ought to be great for laptops

22:52 <efc> Our laptops have always had a periodic click/grind, hate it

22:53 <Soul_keeper> my Eee has an ssd in it ...

22:53 <Soul_keeper> 4GB tho

22:53 <Tidus> right now i've got 2x100gb standard disks in this laptop

22:53 <Soul_keeper> performs less than a 4200rpm hard drive tho, it was one of the first SSDs

22:53 <efc> I had toyed with the idea of a CF + adapter for a long time. Thats not very fast though.

22:54 <Soul_keeper> still sufficient i guess

22:54 <Tidus> Soul_keeper: i got a pair of 4200's in this thing :(

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22:54 <efc> Intel seems to be the first one to get the controller really working right

22:54 <efc> the review sites ought to do some lineups

22:55 <Soul_keeper> there used to be a company that made ram drives in the 90's,  would plug in just like a regular ide drive,  and had a battery to keep the data when you turned off the comp

22:55 <Soul_keeper> could put pc100 and stuff in them

22:55 <efc> Gigabyte made some

22:55 <Soul_keeper> that was a great idea

22:56 <Soul_keeper> doubt they sold many tho

22:56 <efc> They were always a bit short on capacity as I remember, just two slots or something

22:56 <efc> and IDE becomes a bottleneck for them

22:56 <Soul_keeper> think they topped out at lik 8GB or something

22:56 <efc> they used to make caching hard drive controllers too

22:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah

22:56 <Soul_keeper> sata will be the bottleneck for SSDs here soon

22:57 <Soul_keeper> if not already

22:58 <Soul_keeper> i remember in 98' i think it was   nasa had SSD drives and redhat on their shuttle

22:59 <Tidus> both my hard drives in this thing can only reach 74mb/sec in raid

23:00 <Tidus> that's put together

23:01 <Soul_keeper> my single 10K raptor tops out at 64MB/s or so

23:02 <Tidus> hdparm -Tt /dev/md3 is what reported 74mb/sec

23:02 <Soul_keeper> mine was the first 10K sata to come out though, later models were faster

23:02 <Soul_keeper> the newest 7200rpm drives can now outperform it

23:03 <efc> intel ssd review:  http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU1OSwsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0

23:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/93yfu6> (at www.hardocp.com)

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23:05 <Soul_keeper> not bad

23:06 <Soul_keeper> i fell asleep early for like half an hour, and had a dream a sweat little blonde was sitting on my lap ...

23:06 <Soul_keeper> it was weird tho, cause my keyboard was in the way

23:06 <Tidus> lol

23:07 <Soul_keeper> then i tryed to grab her ass, and woke up ...

23:07 <efc> Baby your ass is so QWERTYASDFGZXCVB

23:07 <Soul_keeper> i gotta find me a sweet little blonde

23:07 <Tidus> lol

23:08 <Soul_keeper> i'll give you a  GF 6800, a P4 and an E4300   for one

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