IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-12-27

00:28 <Soul_keeper> black and white westerns are the best !

00:30 <efc> I like Clint's Spaghettis

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01:22 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

01:22 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 41.7F / 5.4C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear and cold with areas of frost. Lows 26 to 36. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 55 to 63. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear and cold with areas of frost. Lows 26 to 36. Light winds.; (1 more message)

01:28 <quail> &wx ypad

01:28 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:30 PM CST; Clear. High:75 F.; Clear. Low:59 F.; Chance of Rain. High:73 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:59 F.;

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01:40 <efc> mmoo MTughan

01:41 <MTughan_> 'lo efc

01:41 <MTughan_> I decided not to join on here for a while, because I was restarting often. You know how Microsoft is with the updates.

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01:54 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [02:17:681] 12_-_Country_Club

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03:52 <Soul_keeper>   i could probably had a 120mm intake fan to that one

03:52 <Romulus> <> (at

03:52 <Soul_keeper> 20 bucks, can't go wrong

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04:38 <CoderForANewYear> &wx 45140

04:38 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 58.1F / 14.5C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning...then becoming. Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers late. Near record highs in the upper 60s. South winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 20 (2 more messages)

04:38 <CoderForANewYear> &more

04:38 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening... then showers with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Breezy with lows around 40. Southwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers in the morning. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph in the (1 more message)

04:39 <CoderForANewYear> &more

04:39 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: morning. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Wind Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 11:00 AM EST on December 28, 2008;

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06:21 <CoderForANewYear> off to the store --> bbl

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07:22 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

07:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27.8F / -2.3C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Freezing Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Cloudy...colder. Freezing rain and rain likely in the morning...then a chance of sleet...freezing rain and snow in the afternoon. Some snow and sleet accumulation possible. Ice accumulation up to one tenth of (2 more messages)

07:22 <wdsmia> &more

07:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: an inch. High in the lower 30s. Northwest wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Colder. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

07:23 <wdsmia> &more

07:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: snow 70 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 30s. Southwest wind around 10 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 28, 2008; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:03 PM CST on December 28, 2008;

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08:10 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:14 <xcamel> &wx 12020

08:14 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 36.2F / 2.3C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Today - Sleet likely early. Rain showers likely early this morning. A chance of rain showers this afternoon. Patchy fog. Highs in the lower 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (2 more messages)

08:14 <xcamel> *more

08:14 <xcamel> &more

08:14 <Romulus> xcamel: cloudy with patchy drizzle. Patchy fog. Not as cool. Near steady temperature in the lower 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Patchy drizzle in the morning. Patchy fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Not as cool with highs in the mid 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph... becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph in the afternoon. (1 more message)

08:15 <xcamel> &more

08:15 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 50 percent.; Freezing Rain Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 11:00 AM EST on December 27, 2008;

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08:26 <xcamel> mighty nasty south of you, Doug..

08:28 <wdsmia> yep weather radio is going nuts

08:29 <wdsmia> Yuck Ice storm warning

08:31 <xcamel> flood/flash flood south

08:36 <xcamel> quite the squall line going through KS/MO though

08:37 <wdsmia> they can have it

08:38 <xcamel> the ice line is just switching over where you are..

08:39 * wdsmia is tired of winter

08:42 * xcamel was tired of winter before it started

08:45 * wdsmia thows some baileys in his coffee and prepares for a long winters nap

08:51 <CoderForANewYear> hey all

08:51 <xcamel> 'lo Don

08:51 <wdsmia> mornin Don

08:52 <CoderForANewYear> morning Jay and Doug

08:52 <CoderForANewYear> I am back from the grocery store

08:52 <CoderForANewYear> "didn't get anything" - spent $200

08:53 <xcamel> not hard to do..

08:53 <CoderForANewYear> not anymore

08:54 <CoderForANewYear> global warming is back with a vengeance this morning

08:54 <CoderForANewYear> 61F this morning

08:55 * wdsmia sends CoderForANewYear some Global freezing

08:55 <CoderForANewYear> Old Man Winter is not going to take kindly to this intrusion, I'm afraid

08:56 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

08:56 <CoderForANewYear> I'm thinking it's going to be a smashmouth smackdown comeback

08:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.2F / -3.2C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Freezing Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Rest of Today - Colder. Freezing rain in the morning...then a chance of sleet...freezing rain and snow in the afternoon. Some snow and sleet accumulation possible. Ice accumulation around one quarter of an inch. High (2 more messages)

08:56 <wdsmia> &more

08:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: in the lower 30s. Northwest wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Colder. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of snow 70 (1 more message)

08:56 <wdsmia> &more

08:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 30s. Southwest wind around 10 mph.; Ice Storm Warning, Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CST on December 28, 2008; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 12:03 PM CST on December 28, 2008;

08:56 <CoderForANewYear> We may reach 70F today

08:57 <CoderForANewYear> tain't right

08:57 <CoderForANewYear> I'm guessing it's the end of the world

08:57 * CoderForANewYear hopes he's a bad guesser

09:05 <xcamel> you're between storms it seems

09:12 <CoderForANewYear> yeah, we haven't seen anything like what you and Doug have experience

09:12 <CoderForANewYear> +d

09:13 <CoderForANewYear> a couple inches of snow that went away the next day - some freezing rain slicked things up, but that quickly changed to all rain

09:14 <CoderForANewYear> non-white Christmas

09:15 <xcamel> just started raining hard here..

09:16 <wdsmia> raining Ice chips here just about killed myself getting the paper

09:17 <xcamel> hoping it will blow north for a while - stuff to do today.

09:18 <CoderForANewYear> ice chips?

09:19 <wdsmia> yep :(

09:19 <CoderForANewYear> I did my last Christmas thing yesterday - bought Stephen an iPhone 3G

09:21 <CoderForANewYear> I had wrapped up a picture of one to put under the tree

09:21 <xcamel> seen plenty of icechips lately

09:21 <CoderForANewYear> back to the ice chips - ice chips from trees and wires, or from the sky?

09:22 <wdsmia> sky... crackle when they hit the ground

09:22 <CoderForANewYear> I don't think I've seen such a thing

09:23 <CoderForANewYear> I'm guessing it's the end of the world

09:23 * CoderForANewYear hopes he's a bad guesser

09:25 <CoderForANewYear> bbiab - need to start the Big Project of the Day

09:25 <xcamel> lol

09:40 <wdsmia> lol on the radio don't drive till this turns to sleet that way you will have a bit of traction

09:45 <xcamel> freezing on?

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09:58 <xcamel> this weather is just messing with me...

10:00 <psilo> hi

10:00 <psilo> what is this channel about?

10:00 <PovAddict>

10:02 <JohnNy64-konik> I thought it was ...

10:02 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at

10:02 <JohnNy64-konik> (-;

10:02 <PovAddict> oh, expired

10:02 <JohnNy64-konik> Yes.

10:02 <PovAddict> should poke David about it

10:02 <PovAddict> I swear it was working :)

10:03 <JohnNy64-konik> By the way, does anybody have an idea why my boinc client always runs tasks of one project and doesn't run anything else until I manually suspend everything from the first project...?

10:04 <JohnNy64-konik> Also, it somehow seems to ignore the setting to switch between tasks every 60 minutes.

10:04 <PovAddict> what version?

10:04 <Romulus> Somebody said what version are you using now, PovAddict

10:04 <PovAddict> ...

10:04 <PovAddict> Romulus: forget what version

10:04 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.

10:04 <PovAddict> forget what version

10:04 <Romulus> Got it, PovAddict.

10:04 <JohnNy64-konik> 6.2.14

10:04 <PovAddict> multiple factoid plugins making a mess with each other again ._-

10:05 <JohnNy64-konik> heh

10:05 <JohnNy64-konik> (running on FreeBSD)

10:10 <JohnNy64-konik> (No idea...?)

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10:18 <xcamel> well that was fun..

10:18 <xcamel> Nic - any word on a working BM for FC9/10 ?

10:24 <PovAddict> hah

10:24 <PovAddict> they can't even get a working client for any platform :P (CPUs going idle and stuff)

10:24 <xcamel> just askind..

10:24 <xcamel> er asking even.

10:24 <PovAddict> I haven't seen anything about your problem

10:25 <xcamel> workfetch is still fraked

10:25 <PovAddict> 6.4.5 had exactly 1 week of testing

10:25 <xcamel> I did post the error it gives me..

10:25 <PovAddict> Dec 9th: Rom announces 6.4.5 released for Windows

10:25 <PovAddict> Dec 14th: "Work fetch seems to be really buggered up."

10:25 <PovAddict> Dec 16th: "We are pleased to announce that BOINC 6.4.5 is ready for public use."

10:26 <xcamel> I back to a manual suspend of projects with full cache to reload the others...

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10:56 <psilo> i see, re: boinc

10:59 <xcamel> indeed

11:07 <psilo> nifty

11:07 <psilo> i used to have seti@home and GIMPS, years ago

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11:25 <xcamel> it has evolved quite a bit

11:27 <psilo> yes, i can imagine

11:27 <psilo> reading some sites on it now.  very cool projects

11:33 <xcamel> many of them..

11:34 <xcamel> science, medical, math, and "etcetra"

11:35 <psilo> are you a programmer for it?

11:36 <xcamel> not hardly

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11:43 <xcamel> there are a few here though

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11:48 <psilo> are you using any at home?

11:49 <psilo> on your machines i mean

11:52 <xcamel> many...

11:52 <xcamel> 15 boxes, iirc.

11:58 <CoderForANewYear> and many projects

11:59 <CoderForANewYear> looks like we're expecting some wind later - duh

12:00 <CoderForANewYear> gusts to 45mph

12:06 <BadBarbarian> !wx 86023

12:06 <psilo> which projects are you running, xcamel?

12:06 <psilo> einstein@home looks cool

12:06 <psilo> and the LHC one too

12:07 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023

12:07 <psilo> aqua

12:07 <BadBarbarian> mornin xcamel

12:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: -3F / -19.4C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 27 on the North Rim to around 39 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 5 above on the North Rim to around 19 along the (1 more message)

12:07 <BadBarbarian> &more

12:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Not as cold. Partly cloudy. Highs around 30 on the North Rim to around 47 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

12:07 <BadBarbarian> brrrrr it was -18 at Dawn

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13:06 <PovAddict> cloudy but 0 wind

13:07 <PovAddict> so open windows aren't helping

13:07 <PovAddict> &wx eze

13:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 88°F / 31°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ARST; Chance of Rain. High:89 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:68 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:93 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.; Clear. High:78 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.;

13:07 <PovAddict> can't wait for some more rain

13:07 <MTughan_> It's raining here... :(

13:14 <PovAddict> "The current age of computing exists despite Microsoft, not because of it."

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13:32 <chanueting> I keep receiving computation error from boinc, what should I do?

13:32 <PovAddict> what project?

13:32 <Romulus> Somebody said what project are we talking about, PovAddict

13:32 <PovAddict> STFU BOT

13:32 <PovAddict> forget what project

13:32 <Romulus> Okay, PovAddict.

13:33 <chanueting> Do you mean what project I get this error?

13:33 <PovAddict> yes

13:33 <chanueting> QMC

13:36 <desti> your system is faulty

13:36 <chanueting> I use fedora 10, with boinc 6.2.15

13:36 <chanueting> faulty? I have finished one success WU today

13:37 <desti> qmc is stressing your cpu and memory very hard, it might overhead

13:37 <desti> t

13:38 <PovAddict> also

13:38 <PovAddict> see QMC forum

13:38 <PovAddict> maybe everybody is getting the errors (could be faulty WUs)

13:39 <chanueting> I am checking

13:40 <chanueting> If there is no problem held on the forum, should I detach all the project and attach them again?

13:41 <PovAddict> I doubt that would help at all

13:41 <PovAddict> sounds like the Windows solution; doesn't work, reboot :P

13:42 <chanueting> I've tried rebooting

13:43 <PovAddict> lol

13:44 <chanueting> And I also cannot connect to seti server.

13:53 <chanueting> Is there any debug prompt of boinc?

13:56 <PovAddict> any computation error is a project problem

13:56 <PovAddict> BOINC doesn't know and can't tell you why it failed

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14:02 <chanueting> I see

14:02 <Rookie_69> &seen bah_humbug

14:02 <Romulus> Rookie_69: bah_humbug was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 14 hours, 44 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Bah_Humbug> asks sethy to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

14:02 <Rookie_69> Lol.

14:02 <Rookie_69> Imagine that.

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14:06 * Rookie_69 thinks chanueting sounds like a farting melody./me ducks.

14:06 <Rookie_69> Stupid #boingc

14:07 * Rookie_69 slaps his fingers.

14:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

14:07 <Rookie_69> Oh oh...

14:07 * Rookie_69 ducks lower.

14:08 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

14:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, Doug.

14:09 <Rookie_69> ... I mean *lo, Doug.

14:10 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

14:12 <Rookie_69> I never really got out of bed today... although I was out and driving around... I came home quickly.

14:12 <Rookie_69> I'm stiss almost asleep.

14:12 <Rookie_69> ... still...

14:13 <Rookie_69> I realised my driving was almost as bad as everyone else's... time to park.

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14:24 <xcamel> blah day

14:25 <xcamel> 35F dense fog

14:25 <xcamel> and that's just inside my braincase

14:25 <CoderForANewYear> open it up and let it out

14:26 <CoderForANewYear> if you need it, I can send over TSA to break the lock

14:27 <xcamel> got the heater circulator fixed on the generator finally

14:27 <CoderForANewYear> my in-laws bought be luggage locks for Christmas - they don't travel and had no idea

14:27 <xcamel> use them for "inlaw proofing" something

14:27 <CoderForANewYear> lol

14:28 <xcamel> looks like a tiny bit more rain, then just warm air streaming in...

14:28 <CoderForANewYear> I am trying to think of a use for a dangling metal ID tag with a wire going to a lock

14:29 <xcamel> your coffee cup...

14:30 <CoderForANewYear> bein's how I don't drink coffee, locking it up wouldn't be a problem

14:31 <xcamel> the teapot then... gimme a little slack here...

14:32 <CoderForANewYear> heh - I'll just re-gift them to my wife

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14:35 <CoderForANewYear> been working on the first phase of cleaning and organizing my home office - carrying everything out that isn't nailed down

14:36 <CoderForANewYear> then, I'll only allow things back in that 1) need to exist, and 2) can claim an organized spot

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14:38 <CoderForANewYear> but first, and trip to the mailbox and re-beverage

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14:41 <MTughan_> Well, running a little hotter than I might like, but it's working. Stability testing now at 2.53GHz.

14:41 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

14:42 <MTughan_> 'lo Glenn

14:42 <Rookie_69> Hi, Michael.

14:44 <Rookie_69> If I didn't know it was past bedtime, I'd say it was tie for a nap.

14:44 <MTughan_> Heh.

14:44 <Rookie_69> ...time...

14:47 * Rookie_69 goes to sleep.

14:48 <MTughan_> Night.

14:48 <Rookie_69> NN.

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15:06 <MTughan_> That doesn't sound good at all... DA will "hack" something together to temporarily fix the scheduler problem in 6.4.x and 6.5.x clients.

15:07 <MTughan_> Now I'm thinking of DA wielding a katana and hacking away at the BOINC logo... :P

15:15 <CoderForANewYear> ouch

15:16 <CoderForANewYear> Illinois is looking a tad rough

15:17 <CoderForANewYear> I'm sure wdsmia had nothing to do with it

15:20 <CoderForANewYear> *ping* 70F on 12/27

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15:32 <xcamel> you gotta be kidding...

15:33 <xcamel> correction.. Illinois is looking very rough

15:35 <wdsmia> snow coming out of Kansas

15:36 <xcamel> naaa... it's popcorn...

15:40 <xcamel> very dense fog here

15:41 <CoderForANewYear> was outside for awhile in a t-shirt

15:41 <CoderForANewYear> breeze is picking up

15:41 <xcamel> I bet it is...

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16:50 * Rookie_69 sticks his sleepy nose in.

16:51 <Rookie_69> slash ne doesn't seem to work...

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16:58 <Rookie_69> &seen Rookie_69

16:58 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Rookie_69 was last seen in #boinc 6 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <Rookie_69> slash ne doesn't seem to !@#&...

16:59 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Rommie is allergic to W@&k too?

16:59 <PovAddict> he is

16:59 <PovAddict> &echo work

16:59 <Romulus> !@#&

16:59 <PovAddict> &echo work sucks

16:59 <Romulus> !@#& sucks

17:00 <Rookie_69> I concur.

17:00 <Rookie_69> ... Life begins at retirement?..

17:00 <PovAddict> lol

17:06 <Rookie_69> Larry tainted Rommie... Thank you FreeLarry!

17:09 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

17:10 <PovAddict> moin

17:10 <yoyo[RKN]> can I convert fpop in credits

17:10 <PovAddict> if "credits" were a well-defined unit...

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> I know my linux box has x fpops and the wu needs 30min

17:12 <MTughan_> 30 * 60 * x

17:12 <MTughan_> 30 minutes * 60 seconds/minute = 1800 seconds

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> but I got claims from 8-33

17:13 <MTughan_> 1800 seconds * x fp/second = 1800x fp

17:15 <PovAddict> what do you mean 8-33?

17:15 <PovAddict> varying from 8 credits to 33 credits?

17:15 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

17:15 <yoyo[RKN]> claimes are between 8 and 33

17:16 <MTughan_> You want fpops from credits claimed?

17:17 <PovAddict> a credit is 1/100th of a day of CPU time, on a computer with 1000 MIPS

17:18 <yoyo[RKN]> I have fpop and want credits and wonder why hosts claims are between 8 and 33

17:19 <PovAddict> all WUs take the same time and claim varying amounts??

17:19 <Rookie_69> When I have fpop, I wonder how tog et more fibre into my diet.

17:20 <Rookie_69> Stupid keyboard!

17:20 * wdsmia slaps Rookie_69 around with a large Carp

17:20 * Rookie_69 ducks

17:20 * CoderForANewYear hauls in a bunch of fresh fish

17:20 <MTughan_> WTF? My CPU temperature is being read as 124C...

17:21 * Rookie_69 ducks even lower.

17:21 <MTughan_> My processor would've melted by now if it were that hot.

17:21 <CoderForANewYear> before I quit saying anything at all?

17:21 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAddict : all wus ahould take the same time, but and

17:21 <Romulus> <> (at

17:21 <CoderForANewYear> before it*

17:21 <PovAddict> one took 10 times more than the other

17:22 <PovAddict> &calc 11824.79 / 1873.03

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".

17:22 * CoderForANewYear casts a wary eye toward Illinois

17:22 <PovAddict> &math calc 11824.79 / 1873.03

17:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: 6.31318772257

17:23 <Rookie_69> &math calc 1+1

17:23 <Romulus> Rookie_69: 2

17:23 <Rookie_69> :-)

17:24 <Soul_keeper> good work !

17:25 <MTughan_> Although the processor was running hot... I figured out now the video card was blocking off the air flow for the CPU cooler...

17:25 <Rookie_69> Lets see if I can crash the system...

17:25 <MTughan_> Took out one front bezel, I can literally feel the breeze going in.

17:26 <Rookie_69> &math calc 1/0

17:26 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: float division

17:26 <PovAddict> &math calc sqrt(-1)

17:26 <Romulus> PovAddict: i

17:26 <PovAddict> ooo supports complex numbers

17:27 <MTughan_> &math (2 + 5 * i) * (4 - 4 * i)

17:27 <Romulus> MTughan_: 28+12i

17:27 <Rookie_69> I'm not that complex.

17:27 <MTughan_> Nice...

17:27 <PovAddict> &math (2 + 5i) * (4 - 4i)

17:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

17:27 <PovAddict> &math (2 + 5j) * (4 - 4j)

17:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: 28+12i

17:27 <MTughan_> :o

17:29 <Rookie_69> Syntax usually means paying too much for tobacco and alcohol to me...

17:29 <yoyo[RKN]> seems that amd is much faster than inte

17:30 <Rookie_69> Hotter too.

17:30 <Rookie_69> ... or used to be.

17:31 <MTughan_> My Q6600 is around 65C right now, averaging the individual core temps. It doesn't have great ventilation right now though, I'm going to work on that tonight.

17:32 <MTughan_> The hard drives are doing all right through... They're right behind the input fans. xD

17:33 <Soul_keeper> my Q9450 is at 53C right now ambient is 69F

17:33 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 69 F to C

17:33 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 20.5555555556

17:34 <MTughan_> 21.5C ambient here.

17:34 <MTughan_> &math convert 21.5 C to F

17:34 <Romulus> MTughan_: 70.7

17:34 <MTughan_> The CPU was being choked of air basically though. Lots of output, but the input was being exhausted by the video card.

17:35 <Soul_keeper> i got the most expensive air cooling money can buy tho :)

17:36 <MTughan_> I have a Zalman 9500.

17:36 <Soul_keeper>  i want this case for my secondary system, it has a zalman

17:36 <Romulus> <> (at

17:36 <Soul_keeper> might be a tight fit tho

17:37 <Rookie_69> I have a video card with quieter aftermarket fan... don't remember the make. ;-)

17:37 <Soul_keeper> i measure 7" from the bottom of the motherboard to the top of the zalman

17:37 <MTughan_> If anything, I'd get an Antec P182.

17:37 <Soul_keeper> it's a matx board so i wannt get something small and cheap

17:38 <Rookie_69> Budgie?

17:38 <Soul_keeper> yeah

17:38 <Rookie_69> Oh... That's cheep.

17:39 <Soul_keeper> yeah 20 bucks :)

17:39 <Rookie_69> I must be only half asleep... I'm responding to half of the jibes.

17:39 <MTughan_> All right, one core has levelled out at 70C. I'll finish the stability test (about 20 minutes left), then I've got to reorganize the case somewhat.

17:40 <Soul_keeper>   that 20 dollar case would be perfect for this

17:40 <Romulus> <> (at

17:40 <MTughan_> I have two hard drives, and two empty 3.5" floppy slots.

17:40 <MTughan_> Hmm... or a vertical bracket for the hard drives. I'll have to experiment.

17:41 <MTughan_> Wow, that's dusty...

17:41 <Rookie_69> Some bastard snowed on my front steps!

17:41 <PovAddict> lol

17:41 <Soul_keeper> yeah the dust is THE problem

17:41 <Soul_keeper> don't wanna get the new vid card all clogged up

17:42 <MTughan_> lol... The video card in there is about the size of my old one.

17:42 <MTughan_> Although half height. Mine was about 3/4 height.

17:42 <Rookie_69> Hook up a vacuum cleaner to that box.

17:45 <Rookie_69> Be careful with compressed air though... you can induce overvoltages by spinning the fans too fast.

17:47 <MTughan_> Just looking at this...

17:47 <Romulus> <> (at

17:47 <MTughan_> Maybe I can reverse the fan direction.

17:49 <Rookie_69> I've always wondered where I can find one without all thelights...

17:50 <Rookie_69> PM fan just needs leads reverswed.

17:50 <Rookie_69> ... reversed...

17:55 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Why does the level in the rum bottle never match the level in the EggNog bottle?

17:55 <MTughan_> Which is lower?

17:56 <Rookie_69> You have to ask?

17:56 <Rookie_69> Lol.

17:56 <MTughan_> I don't drink rum or egg nog, so yes.

17:56 <Rookie_69> Law of averages... Rum is liwer.

17:57 <Rookie_69> ?

17:57 <Rookie_69> ...lower...

17:59 <MTughan_> All right, it seems that it's stable at 2.53GHz.

17:59 <Rookie_69> If I had my life to live over, I'd live over a distillery.

17:59 <MTughan_> Now I need to keep that temperature under control, and I can go further.

18:04 <Rookie_69> Just add liquid nitrogen... comp will cool down/

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18:11 * Rookie_69 thinks... Ottawa is cold... stick box outside... when MT gets back home to universityland.

18:12 <MTughan_> Sure, I can do that. It's our own space heater.

18:12 <MTughan_> But I won't be back for at least a week, and I don't want to leave this idle in that time.

18:12 * Rookie_69 has nine space heaters running.

18:12 <Rookie_69> ... or is it seven?

18:13 <MTughan_> I also have two portable heaters, one of which is dying.

18:13 * Rookie_69 forgetsw.

18:13 * Rookie_69 forgets.

18:13 <PovAddict> and mistypes :D

18:13 * PovAddict rucks

18:13 * PovAddict ducks and laughs at the irony

18:13 <Rookie_69> Rucks to re me?

18:14 * MTughan_ is listening to Ebay by "Weird Al" Yankovic

18:14 <PovAddict> :D

18:15 <MTughan_> Well, CPU's running at least 10C cooler on full BOINC instead of Prime95.

18:15 <Rookie_69> I turned off four boxes on a warm thursday morning and came home last night to a chilly apartment.

18:16 <Rookie_69> Thermostats are set on 5C... They rarely kick in.

18:17 <PovAddict> MTughan_: what project?

18:17 <MTughan_> ABC.

18:17 <MTughan_> Apparently, Prime95 stresses the FPUs. ABC wouldn't.

18:17 <Rookie_69> GeoBOINCal heating or BOINCothermal heating...

18:21 <Rookie_69> Weird Al is less stupid than most of the idiots out there.

18:25 <Rookie_69>

18:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - "Ebay" by Weird Al Yankovic (at

18:29 <Rookie_69> Well, maybe not anymore...

18:30 <PovAddict> can anyone here reach

18:33 <Rookie_69> Umm... Why would I try to reach Scumsoft?

18:33 <MTughan_> Nope.

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18:40 <PovAddict> how about

18:40 <MTughan_> Let me guess: you want to know who has IPv6 access?

18:41 <PovAddict> uhuu

18:41 <PovAddict> I don't :(

18:41 <MTughan_> And no DNS entry for the previous.

18:41 <PovAddict> there is a DNS entry :)

18:41 <MTughan_> Not for IPv4. :)

18:41 <PovAddict> that's more like it :)

18:42 <PovAddict> open a shell and do: dig A

18:42 <PovAddict> you'll probably get nothing

18:42 <PovAddict> then try it with AAAA

18:42 <MTughan_> Windows or *nix?

18:44 <PovAddict> on nix

18:44 <PovAddict> Windows has no dig

18:44 <PovAddict> it has nslookup but I don't remember how to ask for a specific record

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18:45 <PovAddict> try: nslookup -type=AAAA

18:46 <PovAddict> I probably won't be getting IPv6 stuff anytime soon :(

18:46 <MTughan_> Yep, that works.

18:47 <PovAddict> my ISP doesn't support IPv6

18:47 <PovAddict> but if they did, I'd still have to replace my router and modem

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18:53 <PovAddict> d-link has four switch models with ipv6 support

18:53 <PovAddict> wonder if any company is making consumer-level *routers* with ipv6

18:54 <PovAddict> heh the cheapest one costs $1500

18:54 <PovAddict> all the way to $6000

18:54 <PovAddict> (minus a cent, as usual)

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19:42 <CoderForANewYear> HDTV installed in the wall in the bedroom - looks nice

19:42 <CoderForANewYear> and was exhausting - gn all

19:43 <efc> night cfany

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20:13 <Tank_Master> gn coder fany

20:14 <MTughan_> 'lo TM

20:14 <Tidus> wow... system getting laggy....

20:14 <Tidus> load average: 5.32 4.24 2.59

20:15 <Tank_Master> hiya MT

20:15 <MTughan_> What would be a safe temp for a quad, would you say?

20:15 <Tidus> Q66?

20:15 <MTughan_> Yes.

20:15 <Tidus> safe up to about 90C

20:16 <Tidus> average though i'd say 35-40 idle

20:16 <MTughan_> This is under full load.

20:16 <Tank_Master> 90?

20:16 <Tank_Master> ouch

20:16 <Tidus> under load i'd stay under 50

20:16 <Tank_Master> I dont like it over 75C

20:16 <Tidus> Tank_Master: my core 2 in my laptop is safe up to 100C

20:16 <Tidus> full load it runs at 70

20:17 <MTughan_> Looks like I might be brushing 73-75C with this. 2.61GHz now, using Prime95 to test.

20:17 <MTughan_> Although, ABC doesn't push the temp that high.

20:17 <MTughan_> For some reason, Core 0 in SpeedFan always registers about 6C higher than Cores 2 or 3.

20:19 <Tidus> temperature:             55 C

20:19 <Tidus> that's mine running wide open

20:19 <MTughan_> Your case running wide open, or the CPU (as in full load)?

20:19 <Tidus> cpu wide open

20:20 <Tidus> keep in mind this is a laptop

20:20 <MTughan_> My C2D 2.53GHz reaches 72C under full load. Penryn.

20:20 <Tidus> that *used* to be in the 70C range...

20:20 <MTughan_> That's a Lenovo laptop.

20:20 <Tidus> but i've modified this laptop :)

20:20 <MTughan_> Heh.

20:21 <Tidus> one of the few that you'll see with both the cpu and gpu sporting arctic silver 5

20:21 <Tidus> full load the fan doesn't even kick up to full speed unless i have the intake semi-plugged

20:21 <Tidus> due to dust / sitting in my lap / etc

20:22 <Tidus> ambient temp is 23c

20:22 <MTughan_> I suppose I should do that, but I'd rather keep the warranties on my lappies.

20:22 <MTughan_> Ambient in the house is 21.5C last I checked, but I think it'

20:22 <Tidus> MTughan_: heh, warranty on this one was shot when i got it

20:22 <MTughan_> ..'s closer to 24, 25C in here.

20:22 <Tidus> i had to re-assemble it from a box of parts, so i figured what the heck

20:22 <MTughan_> See, you don't have to worry about it.

20:24 <Tidus> and keep in mind my temps are with speedstep turned off

20:24 <Tidus> i don't run it often enough on the battery or long enough to need it

20:24 <MTughan_> Well, seems that I've levelled off at 73C on one core.

20:24 <MTughan_> The reading labelled "CPU" is at 67C.

20:25 <Tidus> mine's bouncing between 48 and 55 under full load

20:25 <Tidus> GPU is staying at 48

20:25 <Tidus> it's under the same heatsink as the cpu

20:26 <MTughan_> WTF? What happened to the OverDrive section in Catalyst...

20:26 <Tidus> now if i full load the cpu and gpu it'll climb to about 65 and level off

20:30 <Tidus> what the crap....

20:30 <Tidus> my standalone wireless-G router... just froze itself.

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20:31 <Tidus> <3 it when a stand alone device decides to lock up ...

20:33 <Tidus> Belkin = fail

20:34 <Tidus> especially the F5d7234-4 g router

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20:39 <PovAddict> woo, Google has ipv6

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21:09 <sethy> google is IPv6?

21:09 <PovAddict> it supports ipv6

21:09 * sethy is summoned

21:09 <sethy> ?

21:10 <PovAddict>

21:10 <sethy> failed to connect

21:11 <PovAddict> not surprising

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21:43 <MTughan_> Ah, there we go. Needed to fully restart Catylyst. (I had dinner in there, didn't take me that long to figure it out)

21:44 <MTughan_> So the GPU's at 58C right now, although it's not in use.

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21:54 <sethy> MTughan_ i'd be worried

21:54 <PovAddict> it's gonna blow!

21:54 <sethy> its currently making your coffee

21:55 <sethy> put boinc on that and it will be sure to turn murcury into a gas

21:55 <sethy> mercury*

21:55 <MTughan_> It's an ATI card.

21:55 <PovAddict> opencl

21:55 <MTughan_> Isn't available yet.

21:55 <Tidus> my gpu's sitting at 56c idle

21:56 <Tidus> cpu is 48c idle

21:56 <PovAddict> I have no such thing as an idle GPU

21:56 <PovAddict> or CPU

21:56 <Tidus> 48 idle 55 load... lol...

21:56 <PovAddict> CPU is always 100%, crunching BOINC

21:56 <MTughan_> Idle GPU, 56-58C. 66-72C load on the CPU.

21:56 <PovAddict> GPU is always somewhat busy, drawing my desktop

21:57 <MTughan_> This is with Prime95, not BOINC.

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