IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-12-28

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00:29 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

00:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 22.5F / -5.3C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with snow in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low around 20. West wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Sunday - Mostly (1 more message)

00:29 <wdsmia> &more

00:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: sunny. High in the mid 30s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 2:15 AM CST on December 29, 2008;

00:31 <Soul_keeper> yo

00:32 <Soul_keeper>

00:32 <Romulus> <> (at

00:32 <Soul_keeper>

00:32 <Romulus> <> (at

00:32 <Soul_keeper> new case :)

00:33 <PovAddict> I thought you didnt use cases

00:33 <PovAddict> nice

00:34 <Soul_keeper> 35 bucks

00:36 <Soul_keeper> 1 more hour and this 40hr wu finishes, then i'll go about installing the hardware :)

00:39 <Soul_keeper> they had a bigger one for 5 bucks more, but i didn't need all that

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01:47 <Soul_keeper> ha ! two 80GB wd ide drives and a raid controller,   this could be fun

01:47 <Soul_keeper> some 1999 fun

01:58 <efc> they really shot up in size around that time

02:08 <Soul_keeper> raid0 should still be fast with ata100 tho

02:08 <Soul_keeper> speed has gone nowhere in 10yrs

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02:22 <old511> is this the place ?

02:25 <old511> #weather 87321

02:25 <MTughan_> &weather 87321

02:25 <Romulus> MTughan_: Temperature: -9F / -22.8C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 5 below to 10 above zero. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s to lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 5 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 (1 more message)

02:25 <MTughan_> &more

02:25 <Romulus> MTughan_: mph.;

02:25 <MTughan_> lol...

02:25 <MTughan_> That better, old511?

02:26 <efc> Hey old!

02:26 <efc> Long time no see

02:26 <old511> thank you sir it's been so long since I have been on , I forgot all I new LOL

02:26 <MTughan_> Ah, an old timer to the channel... :P

02:26 <old511> hey :)

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02:27 <MTughan_> Rommie's just as annoying as when I first joined, if not more so. xD

02:28 <infinisoft> markov at his best

02:28 <old511> yes bout 5 years or so eh EFC ? did beta way back when

02:29 <old511> merry christmas and happy new year all, efc has you seen or heard bout spit?

02:30 <old511> it's been 3 years since I last saw her ,when she was out here

02:32 <old511> I'm gonna switch back to my bench and finialy finish oof that dule core I'll be around more,so later all

02:36 <efc> I think others are in contact with her occasionally

02:36 <efc> but don't think she's been in here for a long time

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03:00 <efc> &math convert 1200 kg to pounds

03:00 <Romulus> efc: 2645.54714622

03:00 <efc> guess i really have to lose some weight

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03:08 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

03:08 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:48 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:53 F.; Clear. Low:32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:41 F.; Clear. Low:26 F.;

03:09 <KathrynM> hmmm, might go to Busan tomorrow

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03:47 <CoderForANewYear> &wx 45140

03:47 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: Temperature: 59.3F / 15.2C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1005.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.4mph / 7.1km/h ; Overnight - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Breezy with lows around 40. Southwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest (1 more message)

03:47 <CoderForANewYear> &more

03:47 <Romulus> CoderForANewYear: winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the morning.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Wind Advisory, High Wind Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 4:00 AM EST on December 28, 2008;

03:49 <CoderForANewYear> high wind warning - sustained winds of at least 40mph gusting  to 60mph for at least 10 minutes

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04:11 <CoderForANewYear> good - high wind warning cancelled

04:12 <CoderForANewYear> now just wind advisory for the next 12 hours

04:12 <CoderForANewYear> gusts to 50mph

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04:25 <KathrynM> I'm trying to decide if I should log onto #Fedora and try to figure out why I have no sound again.

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04:32 <CoderForANewYear> you went through the normal checklist?

04:33 <KathrynM> it works in Windows and it's not muted

04:33 <KathrynM> I tried giving the computer a dirty look, but that didn't help.

04:33 <KathrynM> I tried yelling, but that didn't help.

04:33 <KathrynM> I even tried begging.

04:34 <CoderForANewYear> grab ahold of the power cord and threaten

04:34 <KathrynM> lol *cough* lol

04:34 <KathrynM> don't make me laugh

04:34 <KathrynM> it hurts

04:34 <CoderForANewYear> sorry - my job here is to entertain =)

04:35 <CoderForANewYear> I'll try to keep it down to a dull roar

04:35 * KathrynM sighs

04:35 * CoderForANewYear tries to figure out which dress pants to order

04:35 <KathrynM> I guess I'll get on the irc channel

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04:36 <CoderForANewYear> I'm sure they're a friendly bunch

04:37 <CoderForANewYear> leave your ego and pride at the door

04:37 <KathrynM> they've been helpful before

04:37 <KathrynM> It goes ok until 6 people all try to help at once then I start crying.

04:37 <CoderForANewYear> "go to the Light" - "don't go to the Light"

04:38 <KathrynM> I'm waiting patiently now because there's someone else with sound problems ahead of me :)

04:38 <CoderForANewYear> oOOoo   lurk time

04:38 <KathrynM> yup

04:39 <KathrynM> There's actually someone more dense than me on there right now.

04:39 <CoderForANewYear> "push the button on your kdb labeled 'ksound'"

04:39 <KathrynM> THey're trying to explain yum search then yum install to the poor guy

04:39 <CoderForANewYear> oh my

04:39 <CoderForANewYear> n00b to the minus 2 power

04:40 <KathrynM> I was once that edense.

04:40 <KathrynM> dense een

04:40 <KathrynM> damn it

04:40 <CoderForANewYear> lol

04:40 <CoderForANewYear> but typo goes clear to the bone

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04:49 <CoderForANewYear> that was a big wind gust

04:56 <Soul_keeper> stupid freaking new motherboards !!!

04:57 <Soul_keeper> refuses to boot from a pci ide controller

04:57 <Soul_keeper> ever encountered that CoderForANewYear ?

05:04 <Soul_keeper> no sleep for the wicked

05:04 <Soul_keeper> so fucking much for raid CoderForANewYear !

05:04 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

05:11 <ELGono> Soul_keeper : you checked bios settings?

05:12 <ELGono> try to set boot from scsi

05:12 <ELGono> then it looks for alternate controllers... ide/sata/scsi

05:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah the bios don't have those options

05:13 <CoderForANewYear> re-hi - was ordering some clothes online

05:13 <Soul_keeper> just has   "cdrom, harddrive, removeable device, and disabled"

05:13 <KathrynM> looks like it's a bug

05:13 <Soul_keeper> i guess they figured nobody uses bootable ide cards anymore ...

05:13 <Soul_keeper> removeable device don't do it

05:13 <CoderForANewYear> hmm

05:13 <Soul_keeper> probably only works for usb drives

05:14 <Soul_keeper> this card used to allow me to enter it's bios when booting old socket A or earlier systems

05:14 <Soul_keeper> havn't used it since

05:15 <Soul_keeper> that is the card itself had a bios for setting up the drives

05:16 <KathrynM> My brain is too mushy to consider rolling back kernel versions.

05:16 <KathrynM>

05:16 <Romulus> <> (at

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05:25 <CoderForANewYear> can you boot an older kernel still on your machine?

05:27 <KathrynM> I don't hae one old enough

05:30 <CoderForANewYear> ugh

05:30 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

05:31 <KathrynM> the guy said somehting aobut koji

05:31 <KathrynM> I'm too tired and too fuzzy headed to figure out something new

05:31 <CoderForANewYear> hmm

05:31 <CoderForANewYear> dunno anything about that

05:31 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a possibility to have different apps for amd and intel?

05:31 <KathrynM> me neither

05:32 <KathrynM> I don't think so yoyo[RKN], the client identifies itself to the server by OS, not processor.

05:32 <KathrynM> ut that

05:32 <KathrynM> ugh

05:32 <KathrynM> But that's just a guess on my part.

05:32 <yoyo[RKN]> I also do not know of such possibility

05:32 <yoyo[RKN]> my amd app is 3 times faster than intel

05:33 <yoyo[RKN]> because I compiled/optimized it on amd

05:37 <Soul_keeper>    compared to

05:37 <Romulus> <> (at

05:38 <Soul_keeper>

05:38 <Romulus> <> (at

05:40 <Soul_keeper> used all my energy putting it together now it's time to sleep ... 2:40am

05:43 <Soul_keeper> who woulda thought 35 bucks could buy so much joy ...

05:46 <Soul_keeper> that's ok don't talk to me

05:47 <Soul_keeper> yoyo[RKN], you can do like most projects,  compile a default i386 app,  then offer various optimized apps for download by people manually

05:47 <Soul_keeper> well like seti does

05:48 <Soul_keeper> they offer the source and 3rd party sites optimize it for various hardware

05:48 <yoyo[RKN]> Yes I think this is a way

05:49 <Soul_keeper> safest bet is to make the default one i386 tho

05:49 <Soul_keeper> guaranteed to run for everyone

05:49 <yoyo[RKN]> current ne runs on each linux, but amd is 3 times faster

05:49 <Soul_keeper> i like my new case, does anyone have a problem with that ?

05:52 <Soul_keeper> problem is you can't just say  amd optimized   or intel optimized   either

05:52 <Soul_keeper> you can optimized for the specific core

05:53 <Soul_keeper> like  P4 with sse2, c2d with sse3,   or c2q with ssse3,

05:55 <Soul_keeper> there are about 20 different mtune options for the latest gcc

05:56 <Soul_keeper> hmmm over 30

06:02 <ELGono> btw don't miss the streams

06:03 <ELGono>

06:03 <Romulus> <> (at

06:03 <ELGono> 25th chaos communication congress taking place in berlin

06:03 <ELGono> largest g33k, n3rd & h4x0R meeting worldwide

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06:04 <ELGono> here you find the timetable

06:04 <Romulus> Title: 25C3: 25th Chaos Communication Congress (at

06:24 <CoderForANewYear> looks interesting ELGono

06:33 <ELGono> it is don ;)

06:34 <ELGono> streams will be also available "on demand" later on

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07:33 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

07:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 17.6F / -8.0C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Flood (1 more message)

07:33 <wdsmia> &more

07:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Warning for Polk County in effect until 7:10 AM CST on December 29, 2008;

08:20 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 41.0F / 5.0C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Areas of fog this morning. Mostly cloudy with scattered showers. Highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower (1 more message)

08:21 <xcamel> &more

08:21 <Romulus> xcamel: 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the evening.; Monday - Partly sunny. Cooler with highs in the lower 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.;

08:24 <xcamel> really, really dense fog...

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08:33 <CoderForANewYear> we canceled our fog

08:34 <CoderForANewYear> we canceled our high wind warning today

08:34 <wdsmia> only Fog here is between my ears... needs more coffee

08:34 <xcamel> got coffee

08:35 <CoderForANewYear> open the cranium and let the smoke out

08:36 * xcamel is happy - no leaks in the generator heating system.

08:36 <CoderForANewYear> excellent

08:37 <xcamel> is an indication of the fog

08:37 * CoderForANewYear looks out the open window

08:37 <CoderForANewYear> geese are noisy

08:37 * CoderForANewYear pushes the window closed, since the temp has dropped so much

08:38 <xcamel> 41 here

08:38 <CoderForANewYear> about 38F locally

08:38 <xcamel> lots to do today, but not yet.

08:39 <CoderForANewYear> wow - very foggy

08:39 <xcamel> ya think?

08:39 <CoderForANewYear> the evidence is overwhelming

08:40 <CoderForANewYear> llamas llost between the barn and the feed

08:40 <xcamel> that front lost all it's roar it seems.

08:40 <CoderForANewYear> just some light rain showers by the time it got here

08:42 <xcamel> the PNW is getting our next one...

08:42 * CoderForANewYear tunes into that action

08:43 <CoderForANewYear> that'll ride the Empire line right across

08:44 <xcamel> here we go again....

08:44 <xcamel>

08:44 <Romulus> <> (at

08:44 <xcamel> Scientists plan to ignite tiny man-made star

08:45 <CoderForANewYear> aw nuts

08:46 <CoderForANewYear> That's the lesson of Jurassic Park - just because we *can* do a thing, doesn't mean we *must* do a thing

08:47 <xcamel> lol - watched lost world last night...

08:47 <CoderForANewYear> nice segue

08:50 <xcamel> didn't realize it was on till midnight

08:50 <CoderForANewYear> it takes awhile to grow dinos

08:53 <xcamel> on the star thing - someone asked what the 'waste product' would be...

08:54 <xcamel> I replied 'earth'

08:54 <CoderForANewYear> zackly

09:06 <xcamel> and the name of that "tiny man-made star"......

09:06 <xcamel> Gary Coleman

09:26 <CoderForANewYear> tee hee

09:26 <CoderForANewYear> for some real lively action, try 16 squirrels trying to eat bird seed off the ground in a 6 square foot area

09:36 <xcamel> we have 8 or 9 at the moment - but i saw one a couple weeks ago that was "squirrel-zilla"

09:43 <xcamel> haven't seen him since, but it was at least half again larger than a "normal" gray.

09:46 <xcamel> ..reminder to get more bird seed later...

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10:58 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: it might be possible using the new designed-for-CUDA server features (app planning)

10:59 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: but nobody has done it before that way :)

10:59 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: what the documentation recommends is a single app with code for both processors, that detects on startup what processor it's running under and branches to the right code

10:59 <yoyo[RKN]> but this is currently in discussion and david will implement it next week

11:04 <PovAddict> D:

11:04 <PovAddict> private discussion?

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11:22 <yoyo[RKN]> or I use an not-optimized version and optimization to be done by 3rd parties like Crunch3er

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11:45 <xcamel> ok.. half the chores done...

11:53 <MTughan_> KathrynM: I know it's late, but Koji ->

11:53 <Romulus> Title: Build System Info | Koji (at

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12:15 <CoderForANewYear> I'm going to shred a bunch of papers, unopened junk mail, etc from 2005 and 2006, while watching xcamel's favorite sport - one mindless activity supporting another - bbl

12:26 <MTughan_> Hmm, this clock is definitely hotter than the previous...

12:26 <MTughan_> 77-82C on any given core now.

12:26 <MTughan_> 2.88GHz.

12:28 <PovAddict> overclocking?

12:28 <MTughan_> Yes.

12:28 <MTughan_> Seems the 80mm fans can't push enough air to really cool well...

12:29 <MTughan_> Yep. At least 8-9C cooler with the side off.

12:32 <MTughan_> The quad core is showing in stats now, at least with credits... Up 6900 credits since yesterday, at least.

12:34 <MTughan_> There it is... 10C cooler on the hottest core, just by taking the side off. Stupid fans...

12:40 <MTughan_>

12:40 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:48 <MTughan_> rofl... "Despite UPS's best efforts, [the package] did in fact arrive at my door in perfect condition."

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13:16 <MTughan_> O_O 9600 credits yesterday...

13:16 <MTughan_> I'm less than 2000 credits behind you PovAddict. :P

13:17 <wdsmia> and how many behind me ? :P

13:17 <MTughan_> Couple million.

13:18 <MTughan_> I'm gonna just hit 600K in a couple days, let alone 1M.

13:20 <wdsmia> keep working at it you will get there :)

13:21 <MTughan_> Maybe to your current status... No way I can get 40K RAC with my current machines.

13:21 * PovAddict has IPv6 connectivity

13:21 <MTughan_> Maybe 12K, depending on how well the quad works.

13:25 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

13:26 <desti> the user activity detection is total boring

13:26 <yoyo[RKN]> I could send 2 apps to the client and check in the first task of the wrapper which cpu is in the system

13:26 <MTughan_> Is anyone able to get to Wikipedia?

13:26 <yoyo[RKN]> and than rename either ecm-amd or ecm-intel to ecm

13:26 <PovAddict> I can

13:27 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: if you rename a file in the project dir, BOINC will think the file disappeared and re-download it

13:27 <yoyo[RKN]> in the slot dir

13:29 <desti> why don't build a simple two way switch into the app?

13:29 <yoyo[RKN]> because I'm to stupid for that

13:29 <desti> ok

13:29 <MTughan_> At least three sites I can't get to right now... Wikipedia, Speedtest, and ABC@home.

13:30 <PovAddict> desti: it isn't easy to compile with two different optimization settings in the same app

13:30 <PovAddict> you'd have to rename every single function to avoid duplicated symbols

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14:06 <xcamel> re-hi

14:07 <xcamel> hmmm... needs a reboot

14:07 <xcamel> brb

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14:15 <yoyo[RKN]> is there any source code available which determines the prozessor vendor

14:15 <PovAddict> BOINC already does that and puts it on init_data.xml

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> oh, my lovely boinc

14:17 <PovAddict> Romulus: boinc?

14:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

14:17 <PovAddict> boinc?

14:17 <Romulus> I guess boinc is all perfect and stuff, PovAddict

14:26 <PovAddict> &math convert  950400 seconds to days

14:26 <Romulus> PovAddict: 11

14:26 <PovAddict> &math convert 7200 seconds to hours

14:26 <Romulus> PovAddict: 2

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14:38 <xcamel> hmmm..

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15:03 <KathrynM> yoyo[RKN], Einstein does something like you want.

15:03 <yoyo[RKN]> but in the C code?

15:03 <KathrynM> but with SSE and stuff

15:03 <KathrynM> LOL.   Like I'd have a clue.

15:03 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: yes, within the program

15:04 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: but I think they don't optimize everything, just one or two functions that are hand-optimized for certain processors

15:04 <PovAddict> on startup it chooses what version of those functions to use

15:04 <yoyo[RKN]> I will add a preprocessing task in wrappers job.xml

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15:07 <KathrynM> I'm trying to find a post where Bernd talks about it.  But failing.

15:07 <KathrynM> Sorry

15:07 <KathrynM> I think he called it something like switcher

15:08 <PovAddict>

15:08 <Soul_keeper> likely some things are optimized by cpu type in assembly

15:08 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

15:08 <Soul_keeper> many larger projects go that route i've noticed ...

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15:13 <KathrynM> I'm running out of kleenex

15:13 <KathrynM> And it's the middle of the night.

15:14 <PovAddict> :/

15:16 <xcamel> wow - transferring music to my dingleberry...

15:17 <xcamel> just getting around to checking out all the fun stuff in this phone

15:18 <Soul_keeper> KathrynM, i use my sleeve :)

15:18 <PovAddict> ew

15:18 <Soul_keeper> i blow my nose on the front of my shirt

15:19 <xcamel> eeewwww

15:20 <xcamel> put finger on one side and blast the other to the ground...

15:20 <Soul_keeper> that don't always work ...

15:20 <Soul_keeper> sometimes you gotta go digging :)

15:20 <PovAddict> ewww

15:22 <KathrynM> ugh.  my tummy

15:22 <Soul_keeper>    asus angers me

15:22 <Romulus> <> (at

15:22 <Soul_keeper> then i go to look around on their webpage and it's down like usual

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15:45 <Soul_keeper> efc, are you rich yet ?

15:46 <efc> Let me see, no

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15:47 <Soul_keeper> efc, don't give up !

15:48 <Soul_keeper> someday you'll be able to buy every pc in taiwan

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15:49 <Soul_keeper> yup

15:49 <old511> hello all the stranger returns :)

15:49 <efc> What are you smoking, and can I have some?

15:49 <old511> me too

15:49 <Soul_keeper> tobacco sure

15:50 <efc> Moo old511

15:50 <Soul_keeper> trying to kill some time with a little social interaction here ...

15:50 <old511> LO efc :) hello soul keeper

15:50 <efc> &wx 30625

15:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 70F / 21C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Rain and drizzle likely. Lows in the lower 50s. Light west winds. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain and drizzle in the morning...then sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. (1 more message)

15:50 <Soul_keeper> S + tab key

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15:51 <old511> s=

15:52 <old511> &wx 87321

15:52 <Romulus> old511: Temperature: 28F / -2C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.65in / 1038hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s to lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 5 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph in the evening.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Highs in the mid 40s to (1 more message)

15:52 <old511> more

15:53 <CoderForANewYear> moo old511

15:53 <old511> &more

15:53 <Romulus> old511: lower 50s.;

15:53 <CoderForANewYear> how's Dana?

15:53 <old511> eh ha efc

15:54 <old511> nice too bee back on the board :)

15:54 <efc> My new monitor will come tommorrow hopefully..

15:54 <CoderForANewYear> good to see you here

15:54 <old511> too cool what kind dare I ask ?

15:54 <efc> its a 24" HP.

15:55 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

15:55 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 67.8F / 19.9C | Humidity: 12% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 63 to 68 in the western valleys to 59 to 64 near the foothills. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 31 to 41. Light winds.; Monday - Sunny. Highs 67 to 72. Light winds.;

15:55 <efc> CoderFor* is personally responsible for any problems I encounter with it.

15:55 <old511> much thanks on the welcome lots folks seem to be missing on the list ?

15:55 <efc> Its an IPS panel, should be nice.

15:55 <CoderForANewYear> if it's not acceptable, he ships it to me

15:56 <Soul_keeper> CoderForANewYear, you got too many toys already

15:56 <Soul_keeper> besides efc likes me more :)

15:56 <efc> Soul_keeper never built an oppressive Great Wall of Money.

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15:57 <CoderNeedsMoreTo> +ys

15:57 <old511> Mom got me a replacement monitor and it just happens to be a HP 1709 and it's sharp as all get the heck out ,never had a screen that is so black in the back ground you should enjoy it

15:57 *** CoderNeedsMoreTo is now known as CoderForANewYear

15:58 <Soul_keeper> old511, you got a good Mom

15:58 <Soul_keeper> i apparently got a propane grill for xmas today ...

15:59 <yoyo[RKN]> strange

15:59 <old511> I dare say I have as many toys as CFL ,only most are down fpr rework and up grade LOL

15:59 <yoyo[RKN]> compiled the app on intel and the runtime on intel and amd is nearly the same

16:00 <PovAddict> compiling it on a different CPU won't make any difference

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16:00 <PovAddict> you'd get same results if you cross-compiled it for x86 from a PowerPC

16:00 <efc> My current monitor is a 2005.. every time I go in the store, almost all the monitors look better. Not sure if its age, or they improved the panels some.

16:00 <PovAddict> you have to actually use compiler switches for "optimize for intel"

16:01 <PovAddict> or change the ecm-params thing

16:01 <PovAddict> running the compiler on a different CPU won't make any diff

16:02 <yoyo[RKN]> I think the configure script created different ecm-params on intel

16:02 <old511> sorry I have too go for now snow resque for sure, we have 3 feet on the ground ,will re turn LOL , if I don't get stuck too LOL :)

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17:11 <efc> latest skymap of my seti@home wu's:

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17:19 <MTughan_> 2.88GHz seems to be stable. Trying 3.03GHz.

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18:03 <efc> Dad found some school pics of my grandmother

18:03 <efc> 3rd grade, circa 1916 I guess

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18:07 <Soul_keeper> efc, was she HOT ?  :)

18:07 <efc> Don't even know which one she was

18:07 <efc> Some of them look like a lot of trouble , though

18:09 <efc> not so stern as people usually look in old pictures

18:10 <Soul_keeper> lol

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19:00 <old511> snow's deep and it was fun,but can't say it was real fun :)

19:00 <old511> &wx 87321

19:00 <Romulus> old511: Temperature: 34F / 1.1C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 5 to 20. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph in the evening.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the 40s.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 10 to 25.;

19:01 <old511> YES :) gonna melt off yea \

19:02 <old511> back too work on dule core ,it will run tonight at last ,we hope :)

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20:00 <xcamel> re-hi

20:00 <MTughan_> 'lo

20:01 <MTughan_> Had to reboot into the BIOS again. I pushed the RAM up to its max frequency before, but didn't realize it needed more voltage to reach that in specs.

20:01 <MTughan_> Designed for DDR2-800 @ 1.8V (what it was out of the box) or DDR2-1066 @ 2.0-2.1V (what it's at now).

20:02 <MTughan_> Noticed it when the comp failed a combo test by Prime95. :P

20:02 <Soul_keeper> does it get hot at those speeds/voltages ?

20:02 <Soul_keeper> can you put your finger on one of the chips ?

20:03 <MTughan_> Not sure. I'm starting another test, I can feel them after a couple minutes.

20:04 <MTughan_> It's got a headspreader on it too.

20:04 <Romulus> <> (at

20:05 <MTughan_> The video card heatpipes can get hot though.

20:06 <efc> I'm not sure I'm ready for the era of multi-slot vga cards with their own cooling subsystem and power connectors

20:07 <MTughan_> Well, I wouldn't want to hold the memory modules in my hand right after they've been in use, but they're not going to burn.

20:07 <MTughan_> old privmsg'd me when I said "hold" in the previous sentence... o_O

20:09 <PovAddict> hold

20:09 <xcamel> nutz.. missed him..

20:09 <PovAddict> <.<

20:09 <PovAddict> that's annoying

20:10 <MTughan_> Soul_keeper: They're hot, as in I wouldn't want to hold them for long if I were to remove them, but they're not hot enough to burn, so I could hold my finger on it.

20:12 <Soul_keeper> k

20:13 <MTughan_> Presumably, if the modules are advertised to be able to take 2.1V, they can disperse that heat.

20:13 <MTughan_> I set 2.04V in the BIOS.

20:14 <MTughan_> Hmm, still failed a test... FFT of 1024K.

20:15 <MTughan_> Another thread passed 1024K.

20:17 <Soul_keeper> back that beast down

20:17 <Soul_keeper> i keep mine under 2v

20:17 <Soul_keeper> slight fluctuations in ambient can wreak havok

20:18 <MTughan_> I'll just go back to small FFTs to test the CPU for now. If it's stable, I can bump it up and back the RAM down.

20:20 <MTughan_> 3.03GHz right now. I've read reports that 3.2GHz is acheivable with Intel's stock cooler. I need better case ventalation to achieve that, but I should hopefully be able to get there.

20:21 <MTughan_> I suppose if it gets too hot now, I've gotten the max OC I can get in this case.

20:22 <MTughan_> The RAM's OC'd by about 10MHz as it is right now.

20:23 <Soul_keeper> hot ram scares me, it can fry really easily  since it's not well cooled like CPUs

20:23 <Soul_keeper> i usually aim for tight timings and not much oc

20:24 <MTughan_> Well, this is still just the advertised clocks.

20:24 <Soul_keeper>   i wanna get 3 kits of this :)

20:24 <Romulus> Title: - Kingston 4GB 2 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 PC2 6400 Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory (at

20:24 <Soul_keeper> what brand do you have ?

20:24 <MTughan_> Nice price...

20:24 <MTughan_> Mushkin. I posted a link above.

20:24 <MTughan_>

20:24 <Romulus> <> (at

20:24 <Soul_keeper> nice

20:25 <Soul_keeper> i'm running that in my current system

20:25 <Soul_keeper> just the 1x2GB kit

20:25 <Soul_keeper> 2x1GB*

20:25 <MTughan_> I've read good reviews, which is why I went for this kit. 2x2GB.

20:26 <MTughan_> Here it is on Newegg:

20:26 <Romulus> <> (at

20:27 <Soul_keeper> i wanted their kit with the new   eVCI (enhanced Vapor Chamber Interface) cooling technology    but i can't afford it

20:28 <Soul_keeper>

20:28 <Romulus> <> (at

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20:39 <MTughan_> All right... CPU at 68-74C (I should be able to lower that), each core has passed the 8K test (they take a while!).

20:44 <CoderForANewYear> gn all

20:44 <MTughan_> Night CFANY

20:45 <xcamel> laterz..

21:01 <Soul_keeper> messing with nvclock here

21:01 <Soul_keeper> i can't get the GPU temp without forcing it, dunno if i wanna take the chance

21:01 <Soul_keeper> havn't even done one cuda wu yet

21:07 <MTughan_> Seems that 12K has passed with Prime95... Just waiting on one more thread. Anyway, this was started around an hour ago, gonna let it go at least 4-5 hours before tweaking anything more.

21:07 <MTughan_> 12K all passed.

21:07 <Soul_keeper> boinc running for a week is the only true test :)

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21:16 <old511> YO is this the place ?

21:17 <old511> Jay are you about ?

21:18 <old511> wdsmia hello

21:18 <wdsmia> *lo Dana

21:18 <old511> hey how are you and the rest of the folks ?

21:18 <wdsmia> hanging in there

21:19 <xcamel> 'lo Dana

21:19 <xcamel> fine here..

21:20 <old511> same here I finialy got up the steam to get a box back on line , the blues are the pits

21:20 * MTughan_ is testing a quad overclock

21:20 <old511> hi Jay much snow up your way ?

21:21 <MTughan_> I think most of the snow melted... We've had rain over the past few days in Toronto.

21:21 <old511> we should hear you squak 4 times as loud if it smokes :)

21:21 <wdsmia> lol

21:21 <MTughan_> Heh. I'm watching the temps...

21:21 <MTughan_> 68-74C, steady.

21:22 <old511> good what kind of load have you got on it ?

21:22 <xcamel> we had almost 2' - now about 4" because of the warm and rain...

21:23 <xcamel> but I need to drag myself off to the showers...

21:23 <MTughan_> Stressing with Prime95.

21:24 <xcamel> laterz..

21:24 <MTughan_> Seeya Jay.

21:24 <old511> I'm hoping for the same we had about 3"foot on the ground

21:24 <MTughan_> ABC@home is my primary project, and I find it runs about 10C cooler.

21:24 <old511> whats ABC ?

21:25 <MTughan_>

21:25 <Romulus> Title: ABC@home (at

21:25 <old511> I run climit

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21:25 <MTughan_> I'm running about 3500RAC with a dual core 64-bit Linux comp.

21:26 <old511> look up total test , it genearates fractials :)

21:26 <MTughan_> Total test?

21:26 <old511> yes it's free bsd

21:27 <MTughan_> Ah, good old BSD. Mac OS X is based on BSD.

21:28 <old511> I'm a roockie don't know a dos from a cpu eh Jay lol

21:28 <old511> I can check a jump drive for it ,if you wan it ?

21:29 <old511> want

21:29 <MTughan_> Naw, I'm good.

21:29 <old511> the fractials it makes are the bomb

21:30 <old511> enough break ,think TGG will be on later ?

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21:31 <efc> &last TheGasGiant

21:31 <Romulus> efc: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a net!@#& the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)

21:32 <efc> &seen TheGasGiant

21:32 <Romulus> efc: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 10 weeks, 0 days, 15 hours, 38 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: * TheGasGiant sneaks in

21:32 <MTughan_> &any TheGasGiant

21:32 <Romulus> MTughan_: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 10 weeks, 0 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: *** TheGasGiant has quit IRC ("Say What?")

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21:33 <old511> whats up with that ? and Spit the dog ?

21:34 <efc> Not sure whats up with TGG. Though seems like maybe I saw him with a different nick at some point.

21:34 <old511> &any Spit The Dog

21:34 <Romulus> old511: (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only (1 more message)

21:34 <efc> I think others are in contact with Spit

21:35 <MTughan_> &any SpitTheDog

21:35 <Romulus> MTughan_: I have not seen SpitTheDog.

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21:35 <MTughan_> I don't remember what nick he/she uses...

21:36 <old511> as long she is well I haven't had any contact with  her since she spent time up here 3 years ago, took her shooting and thought we had a good time :(

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21:37 <old511> &any SpitTheDog

21:37 <Romulus> old511: I have not seen SpitTheDog.

21:37 <old511> &any Spit the Dog

21:37 <Romulus> old511: (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only (1 more message)

21:38 <old511> more

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21:38 <old511> &more

21:38 <Romulus> old511: necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.

21:38 <old511> seen Spit the Dog

21:39 <MTughan_> &seen "Spit the Dog"

21:39 <Romulus> MTughan_: Error: 'Spit the Dog' is not a valid nick.

21:39 <old511> &seen Spit the Dog

21:39 <Romulus> old511: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.

21:40 <old511> &Spit the Dog

21:40 <Romulus> old511: Are you daft?

21:40 <old511> yes back too work druge

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21:56 <PovAddict> nicknames never have spaces

21:56 <MTughan_> I know, I was just showing the proper syntax.

21:56 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog

21:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 32 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

21:57 <PovAddict> &google calc 32 weeks 3 days in months

21:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: 32 weeks 3 days = 7.45806484 months

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22:09 <PovAddict> &gsunday night sucks, means w&@% the next day

22:09 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

22:10 <PovAddict> that &g wasnt supposed to be there

22:12 <KathrynM> Yay for winter vacation

22:12 <KathrynM> I'm thinking some spicy Korean food is what my head needs.

22:14 <PovAddict> I've seen my parents' plans for vacation... I'll need a vacation to rest of it

22:17 <efc> been looking at these old family pictures.. kind of eerie to look at a class full of children who are all dead now

22:17 <KathrynM> ah yeah.  A vacation where going back to w#@* would be restful

22:18 <efc> 3rd grade, 1915.

22:21 <PovAddict> hmm not sure if id ever call w%&@ 'restful'

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22:37 <efc> looks like I only missed the 3rd grade teacher by about 15 years

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