IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-01-09

00:04 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

00:04 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 30F / -1C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of flurries early...then mostly clear after midnight. Blustery with lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Friday - Sunny and breezy. Highs in the mid 30s. (1 more message)

00:04 <XioNYC> &more

00:04 <Romulus> XioNYC: Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Brisk with lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph.;

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01:12 <MTughan> Ouch! http://www.xkcd.com/528/

01:12 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Windows 7 (at www.xkcd.com)

01:16 <XioNYC> Here's a guy who looks like Charlie Chaplin's Tramp character, fetishizes blonde hair & blue eyes, invents industrial scale mass murder, and 60 years later he's mere comedy fodder...

01:17 <XioNYC> It makes one wonder.

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02:37 <Tidus> why bandwidth capping is a bad idea... --> http://imagechan.com/img/3478/bandwidth/

02:37 <Romulus> Title: bandwidth - ImageChan (at imagechan.com)

02:41 <MTughan> It's sent from their legal dept too... O_O

02:43 <MTughan> Although 230GB was a lot of data back in 2001.

02:44 <Tidus> yeah

02:45 <Tidus> but 2gb is an annoyingly low cap

02:45 <MTughan> Agreed. In this day and age. I don't think DVDs were around in 2001.

02:46 <MTughan> One CD is 700MB, although it's a small cap for a month.

02:47 <efc> Wonder if they might have trouble collecting that, you could argue they could have taken reasonable measures once the cap was exceeded by triple or whatever

02:48 <efc> thats $45 per CD or so..

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02:54 <efc> these are some neat bookshelves. $6800 though. http://www.bravespacedesign.com/gallery/pics/big_tet1.jpg

02:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a6e8dt> (at www.bravespacedesign.com)

02:54 <Tidus> lol

03:03 <efc> Some Elvish script inlay would be cool..

03:14 <efc> its hard to see but all the edges are bevelled

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03:44 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 23.1F / -4.9C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly cloudy until midnight...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 20. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs around 40. South winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

03:44 <CoderForLife> &more

03:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph.; Friday Night - A chance of rain in the evening...then rain after midnight. Lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.;

03:47 <efc> moo cfl

03:48 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:48 * CoderForLife sniffs the air cautiously to inspect for oxygen content

03:50 <CoderForLife> do chiropractors make early morning house calls?

03:51 <efc> for the right price

03:53 <CoderForLife> I've been thinking about sending my wife to chiro-school

04:10 <CoderForLife> brb    breakfast

04:22 <CoderForLife> b

04:22 <CoderForLife> iac

04:24 <FreeLarry> sometimes CoderForLife

04:24 <CoderForLife> thx FreeLarry

04:24 * FreeLarry only detects methane in air

04:24 <FreeLarry> back bothering you today?

04:25 <CoderForLife> into every life a little methane must fall

04:25 <CoderForLife> just a bit - stiff and a dull ache after the bed got done with me overnight

04:25 <FreeLarry> just remember to keep the sparks suppressed when its around ;)

04:26 <FreeLarry> vista machine going nuts again on the restarts so probably have to take off line for a half hour or so

04:26 <FreeLarry> 5 times in last 10 minutes

04:27 <FreeLarry> yeah rogers the stiff and ache - hot shower and a stretch sometimes help

04:28 <CoderForLife> I plan to do exactly that in just a bit

04:29 <CoderForLife> I thought I'd sit here and complain first

04:29 <FreeLarry> ;) should put you right again

04:29 <FreeLarry> ohhh -- thats my line

04:29 <FreeLarry> &coffee to CoderForLife

04:29 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

04:32 <CoderForLife> maybe I should take up coffee drinking to take advantage of that

04:32 <FreeLarry> lol caffine has been known to help a little in the pain department

04:33 <FreeLarry> but need a double quad before get the jitters

04:35 <CoderForLife> is that anything like a quadrupal bypass?

04:36 <MTughan> Besides a quadruple bypass? Prolly not.

04:36 <FreeLarry> closer to stuck on resussitator

04:36 <FreeLarry> zap zap zzzzzzaaaaaaapppppppppp

04:37 <MTughan> I just hope I don't crash tomorrow... 4:30AM, I haven't slept yet.

04:37 <FreeLarry> 130am and just got home

04:37 <CoderForLife> tomorrow has become today

04:39 <MTughan> Technicalities.

04:41 <FreeLarry> humm maybe the wu for gpu will still get credit going past 58hrs now but its been reassigned to someone else also

04:42 <FreeLarry> still got about 38% to completion

04:42 <CoderForLife> reminds me to check on my LHC WUs...

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04:43 <FreeLarry> yah been getting a few here too - mostly 1M turn ones

04:44 <CoderForLife> lots crunching and waiting to crunch

04:45 <CoderForLife> I suspended all other work

04:45 <MTughan> Same here.

04:46 <CoderForLife> I just got new LHC work 4 minutes ago - so it's not gone yet

04:48 <FreeLarry> not yet my lappy getting some

04:51 <FreeLarry> lhc Results ready to send 147,984

04:51 <FreeLarry> should last 24 hrs i guess

04:52 <FreeLarry> guess that explains why vista crashing - was trying to dl updates and keeps losing timing when it does that in background

04:53 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:53 <CoderForLife> Windows 7 beta today

04:54 <FreeLarry> heard that but avoiding if possible for a while

04:54 <CoderForLife> "Come back the afternoon of January 9" - what does that mean?

04:55 <MTughan> It was released to MSDN and TechNet subscribers at the keynote on Wednesday.

04:55 <MTughan> To be released to the public today, 2.5 million downloads.

04:55 <FreeLarry> only registered toubleshooters currently - everyone else in afternoon

04:55 <FreeLarry> been available for a few days

04:55 <MTughan> Paying troubleshooters.

04:56 <FreeLarry> think so

04:57 <CoderForLife> in a multi-time zone world, afternoon means lots of things

04:57 <MTughan> I would assume PST.

04:57 <FreeLarry> with M$ figure afternoon for westcoast america

04:57 <FreeLarry> pst

04:58 <FreeLarry> even though they are world wide

04:58 <CoderForLife> that's awful left-coast-centric thinking =)

04:58 <MTughan> I don't have any classes today, so that works well. :D

04:58 <FreeLarry> weelllll where does uncle bill live

04:59 <CoderForLife> uncle bill has not so much influence anymore

04:59 <FreeLarry> lol

04:59 * FreeLarry even tho he gave up titles a lot of people still spend a lot of time at his compound(home)

05:00 <CoderForLife> man   tgif    at least that makes going into w@#% today a bit bearable

05:01 <FreeLarry> you can have my day - its only tuesday for me

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05:12 <CoderForLife> time to get ready - bbiab

05:13 <FreeLarry> tc

05:13 <FreeLarry> &nn all

05:13 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

05:16 <FreeLarry> &math calc 68.32/59.75

05:16 <Romulus> FreeLarry: 1.14343096234

05:16 <FreeLarry> gpu percent per hr

05:17 <FreeLarry> on a 8400 card

05:18 <FreeLarry> and with a 4 day deadline uses machine exclusively - guess i wont allow anymore in after this one

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05:56 <CoderForLife> last check-in before departing

06:01 <CoderForLife> adios - laterz

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06:37 <hawmps> 'lo

06:38 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

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06:40 <hawmps> 'lo Mike

06:41 <wdsmia> mornin Jay, Michael

06:44 <hawmps> 'lo Doug

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07:01 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:01 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 7.9F / -13.4C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Scattered flurries this morning. Highs in the mid 20s. West winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 8 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph (1 more message)

07:01 <hawmps> &more

07:01 <Romulus> hawmps: after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of snow in the afternoon. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

07:12 <hawmps> burrr

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07:22 <MTughan> Awesome... The part of the Rideau Canal outside the university is open, according to the site.

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07:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

07:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.6F / -3.0C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy until late afternoon...then a 50 percent chance of light freezing rain and light snow late in the afternoon. High in the lower 30s. East wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to the north 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - (1 more message)

07:34 <wdsmia> &more

07:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Colder. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low 10 to 15. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning then clearing. Colder. High in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the morning.;

07:37 <hawmps> looks like next week is going to be the week we try to forget each winter...

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07:53 <jackygrahamez> Hi all

07:53 <jackygrahamez> &wx washington, dc

07:53 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 29.3F / -1.5C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming east after midnight.; Saturday - Cloudy. A chance of freezing (1 more message)

07:54 <jackygrahamez> &more

07:54 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: rain...sleet and rain in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Highs around 40. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.;

07:54 <jackygrahamez> nasty weather

08:05 <hawmps> 'lo  Jack

08:05 <hawmps> you 'getting the hell out of town' for the coronation?

08:06 <jackygrahamez> no I'm going to a ball with a lady. She might dump me because I can't afford a tux

08:13 <jackygrahamez> They are shutting down the border to DC

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08:19 <hawmps> why not a nice casual dinner at Denny's over in Fairfax....

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08:21 <jackygrahamez> I think we need to celebrate the end of the GWB presidency

08:21 <hawmps> in 18 months you'll be begging to get him back..

08:23 <jackygrahamez> I suppose hell may freeze over too

08:23 * Soul_keeper agree

08:24 * Soul_keeper agrees

08:24 <Soul_keeper> you do realize that 1 million dollars for every citizen is like 340 billion right ?

08:24 <Soul_keeper> so we should all be millionaires twice over already ...

08:25 <Soul_keeper> 3e+14   err whatever that is

08:27 <jackygrahamez> Hmm that does not help if you factor inflation

08:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah and obama is dead set on outdoing bush now

08:29 <Soul_keeper> talking about 800+ billion

08:29 <XioNYC> By pronouncing "NOO-clee-err", he's already surpassed his predecessor.

08:29 <Soul_keeper> "only the government can fix the economy" --obama

08:29 <XioNYC> $0.02

08:30 <Soul_keeper> that line scares me

08:30 <Soul_keeper> big government scares me

08:30 <XioNYC> No government scares me.

08:30 <jackygrahamez> it seems like both conservative and liberal economists are saying the same thing, in our current financial crissis, government intervention is necessary to keep people employed and in there homes

08:31 <XioNYC> (You can read that both ways, btw)

08:31 <Soul_keeper> just wait till they are in your bedroom

08:31 <Soul_keeper> true conservatives don't say that

08:31 <XioNYC> They already are, but I'm not about to debate gay marriage, abortion, and rent control at this time of the morning.

08:32 <Soul_keeper> republican doesn't always translate to conservative.  i guess i got my own views on it tho

08:32 <jackygrahamez> they already are, banning gay marraige

08:32 <jackygrahamez> I agree Soul_keeper

08:32 <Soul_keeper> look up the libertarian party sometimes, i like their ideas

08:32 <jackygrahamez> they scare me

08:33 <Soul_keeper> who ?

08:34 <Soul_keeper> well i guess i've got no problem debating things as i've already been up a few hours :)

08:34 <Soul_keeper> cut my hair, showered, ate breakfast, even played some video games

08:35 <jackygrahamez> I try to take the middle road and be pragmatic, avoid idealism, I don't think we need small government or big government but effective government

08:35 <Soul_keeper> WCG seems to have transitioned to their new servers now

08:37 <Soul_keeper> i won't comment anymore, because i think everyone should be like me, and if they're not there is something wrong with them :)

08:38 <XioNYC> "...but if you agree with me 100% of the time, you should get your head checked." (atributed to Ed Koch)

08:38 <XioNYC> ;-)

08:41 <jackygrahamez> Hi XioNYC, which borrough are you from?

08:41 <XioNYC> Originally or now?

08:42 <jackygrahamez> now

08:42 <XioNYC> 212

08:42 <jackygrahamez> Well that used to be my area code

08:42 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to get back there

08:43 <jackygrahamez> So long as I get into a doctorial program

08:49 <Soul_keeper> http://www.zii.com/

08:49 <Romulus> Title: Zii.com - Stemcell computing (at www.zii.com)

08:50 <Soul_keeper> could be crunching on creative video cards someday ...

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08:50 <Soul_keeper> apparently faster than the cell processor for their next one

08:53 <Soul_keeper> http://www.engadget.com/photos/creative-zii-booth/1271454/

08:53 <Romulus> Title: Creative Zii booth - Engadget (at www.engadget.com)

08:56 <Soul_keeper> sound/video/computing

08:58 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471   the new 3GHz phenom 2  is on newegg now

08:58 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a8qmew> (at www.newegg.com)

09:05 <jackygrahamez> Are you going to go out and get one Soul_keeper

09:05 <jackygrahamez> It looks interesting

09:06 <Soul_keeper> i'm broke right now or i would

09:06 <jackygrahamez> me too :-(

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09:07 <Soul_keeper> when they release the 6-core versions that'll be impressive

09:07 <MTughan> 'lo PovAdct_w

09:07 <Soul_keeper> true 6 cores to compete with intel's HT enabled 4 core i7

09:07 <MTughan> SK was saying AMD released their Phenom II procs, available to buy on Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

09:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a8qmew> (at www.newegg.com)

09:08 <Soul_keeper> it's apparently just about identical the the original phenom, just a die shrink and lots more cache

09:08 <Soul_keeper> the DDR3 versions will come out next month

09:09 <MTughan> That's the AM3 socket, right?

09:09 <PovAdct_w> more cache is good

09:09 <Soul_keeper> i believe so

09:09 <Soul_keeper> but they'll be backwards compatible

09:09 <Soul_keeper> if you put it in an am3 board it'll use the ddr3 memory controller, in an older board it'll use the ddr2 memory controller

09:10 <jackygrahamez> Why won't they let me calculate the decay rate of my nuclear arsenal???

09:10 <MTughan> Backwards-compatible one way, but not the other. I don't remember which way is which...

09:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah your older cpu's won't work in the newer boards, but the newer cpu's will work in most the older boards

09:11 <MTughan> Yep. I thought it was the other way around, with more compatibility on the motherboard side, but I couldn't remember.

09:11 <Soul_keeper> http://xkcd.com/

09:11 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Windows 7 (at xkcd.com)

09:11 <Soul_keeper> lol

09:11 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw that one...

09:11 <PovAdct_w> where's the beta download?

09:12 <MTughan> Not up yet.

09:12 <PovAdct_w> they should hurry teh fook up

09:13 <PovAdct_w> how do I turn off teh -> the conversion in xchat? <.<

09:13 <MTughan> Huh? It replaces "the" with "teh"?

09:13 <PovAdct_w> ... no

09:14 <MTughan> Oh, other way around.

09:14 <PovAdct_w> I had to do a mess to get 'teh' to actually show up

09:14 <PovAdct_w> type "th " (with the space!) then add the e in the middle

09:15 <MTughan> Try this: Settings->Preferences; Input Box, deselect "Spell Checking".

09:15 <PovAdct_w> no such setting

09:15 <MTughan> Maybe the Linux version is different... I see that on SilvereX's Windows build.

09:16 <MTughan> In the prefs, you're selecting "Input Box" on the left?

09:16 <PovAdct_w> yes

09:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah it's in there

09:17 <MTughan> Wait a minute... This IS the Linux build...

09:17 * MTughan smacks his head

09:17 <MTughan> I can't keep my OSes straight.

09:17 <PovAdct_w> http://imagebin.ca/view/ltJ9z7La.html

09:17 <Romulus> Title: inputbox.png (at imagebin.ca)

09:17 <MTughan> All right. This is the standard Linux build, although it did come from Fedora's repos.

09:18 <MTughan> Odd, it should be right below the first checkbox. Do you have an old version?

09:18 <PovAdct_w> about box says

09:18 <MTughan> I'm running 2.8.4, I think 2.8.6 is latest.

09:18 <PovAdct_w> YChat 2.8.6-1

09:19 <PovAdct_w> found it

09:19 <PovAdct_w> Settings -> Advanced -> Auto Replace...

09:20 <PovAdct_w> opens a dialog box with only one item on it, the->teh

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09:20 <MTughan_> Huh, it really isn't in the Windows build...

09:21 <MTughan_> It's possible spell checking wasn't actually the setting too (I didn't try it).

09:21 <PovAdct_w> do you have the menu item?

09:21 <PovAdct_w> Settings -> Advanced -> Auto Replace

09:21 <MTughan_> On both OSes, yes.

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10:24 <sv2_> morning!!

10:25 <jackygrahamez> yo

10:26 <sv2_> hey jackygrahamez - got your email.... wrapperapp eh...

10:26 <sv2_> have you ever created a wrapper app?

10:27 <sv2_> has anyone?

10:27 <jackygrahamez> yes

10:27 <jackygrahamez> yoyo uses them too

10:27 <sv2_> i'm reading it now.. although i can't say for now.. that i see how to insert the python app..

10:27 <jackygrahamez> several other people do as well

10:27 <sv2_> wouldn't i still have to have a c stub app invoke/call the python script?

10:28 * PovAdct_w thinks the wrapper is inherently unreliable, and pointless if you have the source code of the app you want to use

10:28 <sv2_> chime in PovAdct_w - don't be shy!!!

10:28 <PovAdct_w> sv2_: the wrapper *is* a  c stub app that invokes/calls whatever program you give it

10:28 <jackygrahamez> I do it quite frequently, how about i send you some examples of what I do

10:28 <PovAdct_w> it doesn't help you bundle the python interpreter though

10:29 <sv2_> jack.. look forward to it..

10:29 <sv2_> no problem there...

10:30 <jackygrahamez> since you own your machines you can install python on them or you can extract python at run-time and run your scripts through it

10:30 <PovAdct_w> I dunno if the wrapper would work to run stuff you already have in the system

10:30 <sv2_> in my mind.. if i ultmiately use the amazon ec2/3 service... then i'd have my own 'image' that the clients would run on... within this image would be all that the client app would need. this would include all python stuff, as well as all the crawling scripts..

10:31 <jackygrahamez> you can have it extract python in your slot directory

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10:32 <sv2_> PovAdct_w - this is part of the 64$ question that i'm trying to answer... does the boinc client allow the app to interact/run local programs.. my initial google research indicates that it should..

10:32 <PovAdct_w> in the way you'll probably be installing BOINC, it won't stop the app from doing anything

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10:32 <PovAdct_w> I'm just wondering if the wrapper app as provided by BOINC would support running /usr/bin/python

10:33 <sv2_> right... which is ok.. if this were to run within the amazon situation.. wouldn't dare do this on public/user machines..

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10:33 <PovAdct_w> it would definitely work if you wrote your own wrapper but that's quite a task :)

10:33 <PovAdct_w> maybe not so much for your non-CPU-intensive app...

10:33 <sv2_> but then i seriously doubt that any rational user would want to run this anyway!!

10:34 <PovAdct_w> but usually the wrapper has to get the real app's CPU time and pass it to the boinc client, which is a platform-specific mess

10:34 <PovAdct_w> (otherwise the boinc client would only look at the wrapper's CPU time and think it's not doing anything, because the wrapper doesn't use any CPU by itself)

10:36 <sv2_> i could always have the stubb app do something dumb every x secs until the python script completes..

10:36 <PovAdct_w> in your case it doesn't matter, your app doesn't use CPU :)

10:37 <sv2_> not true.. the python scripts use a great deal of cpu.... they fetch.. and then parse the data, write it to a db/file..

10:37 <sv2_> file in this case..

10:38 <PovAdct_w> if they don't use 100% CPU constantly, they aren't "CPU intensive"

10:38 <sv2_> well.. if you put it that way!!

10:39 <sv2_> but i've run 10-50 of these things at once.. and seen my cpu 'top' get throttled...

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10:54 <sv2_> hi jackygrahamez - just saw your msgs .. i'll take a look...

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13:40 <MTughan_> W7 beta out!

13:40 <MTughan_> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

13:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9agzvs> (at technet.microsoft.com)

13:40 <MTughan_> Although the server's busy...

13:42 <XioNYC> In a related story, the price of vomit bags have quadrupled in the last 3 minutes...

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13:44 <XioNYC> Even CPDN doesn't have that kind of ludicrous hardware requirement!

13:48 <MTughan_> Server 2008 R2 beta is also released too apparently.

13:52 <sv2_> jackygrahamez - you still around?

14:03 <jackygrahamez> yes

14:03 <jackygrahamez> working on something

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14:45 <PovAddict> &wx eze

14:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 95°F / 35°C | Humidity: 28% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:95 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:69 F.; Clear. High:89 F.; Clear. Low:64 F.; Clear. High:87 F.; Clear. Low:66 F.;

14:46 <sv2_> jackygrahamez - when you get a chance.. check your pm/email...

14:53 <jackygrahamez> a bottle of vino sounds good

14:53 <jackygrahamez> I just have my hands full at the moment

14:53 <jackygrahamez> I can talk in 2 hours

14:55 <sv2_> jackygrahamez - no prob... and believe me.. i fully appreciate the pointers..

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15:10 <sv2_> i'm completely confused!! by the wrapperapp.. anyone have knowledge of the wiki page..

15:10 <sv2_> i'm trying to walk through/understand the template/create_work portion, dealing with the stdin/out...

15:11 <sv2_> missing something subtle..

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15:22 <PovAddict> ok I want to get rid of distractions

15:22 <PovAddict> closing almost every channel

15:22 <PovAddict> I'll stay in #boinc_dev, in case you need something sv2_

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15:50 <xcamel> re-hi

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16:22 <xcamel> 'lo Larry

16:23 <xcamel> and PA

16:25 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

16:25 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 28.9F / -1.7C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of light freezing rain and light snow early in the afternoon. A chance of light snow and light sleet late in the afternoon. High in the lower 30s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts (2 more messages)

16:25 <wdsmia_w> &more

16:25 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: up to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Snow likely in the evening...then a chance of snow after midnight. Colder. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low 10 to 15. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning then clearing. Colder. High in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 5 (1 more message)

16:25 <wdsmia_w> &more

16:25 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the morning.;

16:26 <FreeLarry58> morn all

16:26 <FreeLarry58> well that was a waste of almost 68 hrs of procssor time - gpugrid

16:27 <Soul_keeper> you're doing it wrong ...

16:27 <FreeLarry58> saw the other comp unit was issued to had already completed so aborted as still had 2 days to go to complete

16:28 <FreeLarry58> don't think so Soul_keeper - its just a old machine - i see they geared more to top of the line vid cards and cant afford them here

16:29 <FreeLarry58> don't know why it takes so much processor time on windows but it does

16:41 <CoderForLife> greetings

16:42 * CoderForLife waits breathlessly for the Windows 7 Beta download info

16:43 <CoderForLife> or not

16:43 <MTughan_> They're adding more servers apparently.

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16:45 <CoderForLife> 20 million people are going to click simultaneously

16:47 <xcamel> definitely 'or not'

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16:54 <xcamel> Don.. iptables v 1.4.1 has a couple nice addons

16:54 <xcamel> -S gives you a fast list now

16:56 <CoderForLife> wonder what version I have

16:57 <CoderForLife> hmm 1.3.5

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16:58 <xcamel> hold on..

16:58 <CoderForLife> that's on CentOS, which is my front-end server

16:59 <xcamel> ftp://ftp.rediris.es/volumes/vol3/fedora.redhat.com/updates/8/i386.newkey/iptables-1.4.1.1-2.fc8.i386.rpm

16:59 <xcamel> fedora version should run..

17:01 <xcamel> checking compats

17:01 <xcamel> to build http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/files/iptables-1.4.1.1.tar.bz2

17:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a7nx7y> (at www.netfilter.org)

17:01 <CoderForLife> I assume there's an x86_64 arch version

17:02 <CoderForLife> maybe I should just build it

17:02 <xcamel> oops - 1.4.2 released code (build)

17:02 <xcamel> http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/files/iptables-1.4.2.tar.bz2

17:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6cqadq> (at www.netfilter.org)

17:03 <CoderForLife> wgetting

17:03 <CoderForLife> wgotten

17:03 <CoderForLife> untar'd

17:04 <CoderForLife> configured

17:05 <CoderForLife> maked

17:05 <xcamel> you're getting ahead of me

17:05 <CoderForLife> no rule to make test

17:05 <CoderForLife> lol

17:05 <CoderForLife> I need to back up existing table entries

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17:06 <xcamel> libdir ok

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17:06 <xcamel> should be good..

17:06 <CoderForLife> I got a clean make, linking with my x86_64 libs

17:07 <xcamel> bing-oh

17:07 <CoderForLife> just.. need.. to.. backup..

17:07 <xcamel> old rules retained

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17:07 <jackygrahamez> hi

17:07 <jackygrahamez> &wx DC

17:07 <xcamel> Hi Jack

17:07 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 38.1F / 3.4C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds around 5 mph...becoming northeast after midnight.; Saturday - Cloudy. Rain in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

17:07 <jackygrahamez> hi xcamel

17:08 <jackygrahamez> &more

17:08 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: rain 80 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Rain in the evening. Lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest after midnight. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

17:08 <xcamel> DC, eh?

17:08 <jackygrahamez> yup

17:08 <xcamel> didn't think that one would work..

17:08 <xcamel> &wx DCA

17:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 36F / 2C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1023hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds around 5 mph...becoming northeast after midnight.; Saturday - Cloudy. Rain in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 (1 more message)

17:08 <jackygrahamez> I come from the state of distributed computing :-)

17:09 <xcamel> that we knew..

17:10 <CoderForLife> make install ran ok

17:10 <CoderForLife> still running 1.3.5

17:11 <xcamel> might have been 'ldconfig'

17:12 <CoderForLife> hmm

17:12 <CoderForLife> service restart yields same version

17:14 <xcamel> there is a note in the 'make' output about adding the lib dir /usr/local/lib in /etc

17:14 * CoderForLife quickly loads his backup entries

17:14 <xcamel> or something close to that.

17:14 <CoderForLife> Ah - I'll scroll backwards

17:14 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:14 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

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17:15 <CoderForLife> ack - I'll make again

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17:16 <CoderForLife> I don't see such a message

17:18 * CoderForLife runs make clean again

17:18 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:19 <CoderForLife> hey doug

17:19 <wdsmia> *lo Don

17:19 <CoderForLife> hmm make doesn't like ctrl-s

17:20 <xcamel> is there a scrollback buffer for bash after its been closed?

17:20 <sv2_> hey povhey jackygrahamez!

17:21 <CoderForLife> I'm not that knowledgeable - I just try to scroll back my Putty console

17:21 <xcamel> see if I have a make log..

17:22 <CoderForLife> ah  good idea

17:22 <xcamel> crap..

17:22 <CoderForLife> config.log

17:24 <CoderForLife> all looks happiness there

17:26 <CoderForLife> looks like it put it in /usr/local/sbin rather than /sbin

17:29 <CoderForLife> yup - there they be

17:30 <CoderForLife> alongside my iftop

17:32 <CoderForLife> backed up iptables out of /sbin, and copying from /usr/local/sbin

17:33 <xcamel> bada-bing

17:33 <CoderForLife> now running 1.4.2

17:33 <xcamel> yummy chicken McFlame sauce

17:33 <CoderForLife> reloading entries

17:33 <xcamel> try the -S

17:33 <xcamel> mucho faster

17:34 <CoderForLife> yeow   I'd say

17:34 <xcamel> and one for the bucket..

17:34 <xcamel> 209.250.250.137

17:34 <CoderForLife> good  I'll add that

17:35 <xcamel> this webscan plague is getting tiresome

17:35 <CoderForLife> indeed

17:36 <CoderForLife> thanks for the upgrade tip xcamel

17:37 <CoderForLife> bbl

17:37 <xcamel> the kmail>>ossec>>iptables link is quite a bit faster now too.

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18:05 <xcamel> sadly, last SGA tonight

18:06 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

18:06 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:07 <Rookie_69> There'll be more SGA. They'll just seem... familiar.

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18:09 <PovAddict> &ping

18:09 <Romulus> pong

18:10 <Rookie_69> I don't recognize any of the SGA crew... except the doctor... Isn't that the wrong ship?... and series?

18:11 <CoderForLife> I thought I was watching Firefly

18:11 <CoderForLife> I was waiting for Kaylee to fix the engine

18:11 <xcamel> "shiny"

18:12 <CoderForLife> Oooo shiny thing

18:12 <xcamel> and time warped to "jenifer"

18:12 <xcamel> that was her nickname on firefly

18:12 <xcamel> and Serenity

18:13 <CoderForLife> Good news - Zillow estimates my house value has gone up by $1000 in the last 30 days -- woot

18:13 <CoderForLife> better that way than the other way

18:17 <CoderForLife> I know - too exciting for words

18:18 <xcamel> except the assessor will read that at +10,000

18:18 <CoderForLife> lol

18:18 <CoderForLife> all too true

18:18 <CoderForLife> LHC seems to be still handing out WUs?

18:19 <xcamel> wow - O'Bummer by year 3 could see the gooberment contolling 28.5% of the economy

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18:20 <xcamel> yes.. still getting some from lhc

18:21 <CoderForLife> it'll take decades to try to unwind that

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18:31 * KathrynM groan

18:32 * KathrynM has to go to w@&* and be pleasant to new students and parents today

18:32 <Rookie_69> Annual Be Kind to your Students day?

18:34 <KathrynM> heh.  that's the day before teacher's day so we get lots of gifts

18:34 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:34 <KathrynM> doing new student assessments today

18:34 <PovAddict> you're speaking like a political candidate

18:34 <PovAddict> be nice to your citizens before the voting

18:35 <PovAddict> then never again

18:35 <KathrynM> Maybe I'll run for president

18:35 <MTughan_> Talk to Hillary Clinton. :P

18:35 <Rookie_69> Remember... only use the term Rugrat in your head...

18:36 <KathrynM> when I was an undergrad, one of my profs told me, if you would have done behaviorism, you would have been a rat runner.  but you picked developmental psych, so you're a rugrat runner

18:36 <CoderForLife> heh

18:36 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM - facing the firing squad today, eh?

18:37 <KathrynM> yup

18:37 <KathrynM> lol: George Belden is sorry all you people still have to work for a living. Go on - hate on me!

18:37 <KathrynM> (his facebook status)

18:38 <KathrynM> He was my senior year HS English teacher

18:38 <PovAddict> o.o

18:38 <KathrynM> now retired

18:39 <xcamel> Queen of crumb crunchers...

18:39 <CoderForLife> I feel sorry for retired people - sitting around all day with those silly grins on their faces

18:40 <KathrynM> lol

18:40 <Rookie_69> I'm just sorry I'm not one.

18:40 <Rookie_69> Imagine... All that free time wasted on the old.

18:40 <CoderForLife> I hate it when they come into the @ff1c3

18:41 <CoderForLife> I usually greet them with a cheerful - "Hi! Good to see you!  How's the retirement account holding out?"

18:41 <CoderForLife> I have become quite adept at ducking

18:41 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:42 <Rookie_69> ... and I thought the duck was an AFLAK thing...

18:43 <MTughan_> AFLAC.

18:43 <PovAddict> quack

18:43 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... AKLAK was a BOINCer at one time...

18:44 <Rookie_69> ... AFLAK...

18:44 <wdsmia> the other Don

18:44 <Rookie_69> stupid fingers.

18:44 <Rookie_69> Yup.

18:45 <CoderForLife> many folks at w@#% invested in funds run by Bill Miller at Legg Mason

18:45 <CoderForLife> he was quoted 3 weeks ago on front of the WSJ saying "every decision I made was wrong"

18:46 <xcamel> ooohhh ... never liked Legg Mason

18:47 <MTughan_> F***ing transit strike... I can't easily get anything I need because I don't have transportation.

18:47 <CoderForLife> "Thanks for your interest in the Windows 7 Beta. The volume has been phenomenal\emdash we're in the process of adding more servers to handle the demand. We're sorry for the delay and we'll re-post the Beta as soon as we can ensure a quality download experience."

18:47 <MTughan_> They've been out since Dec 10, and just voted against the latest offer.

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18:48 <CoderForLife> Some think the best thing about Legg Mason was their building took the blast in the movie "The Sum of All Fears"

18:48 <efc> hey

18:48 <xcamel> almost forgot that..

18:48 <CoderForLife> moo

18:49 <PovAddict> pizza ->

18:49 <efc> Did you guys catch my link about the $7000 set of Tetris shelves?

18:49 <CoderForLife> yup

18:49 <Rookie_69> Yup.

18:50 <MTughan_> Yup.

18:50 <PovAddict> yup

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18:51 <Rookie_69> Tetris is supposed to relieve symptoms of PTSD too. Maybe the guv should buy them for veterans.

18:51 <MTughan_> They're playing Tetris with their shelves day in and day out?

18:52 <KathrynM> as a person with ptsd, I can tell you, it would only piss me off and not help me in the least.  then again, spatial skills aren't high on my list of things I'm good at.

18:52 <zombie67> got some

18:53 <MTughan_> zombie67: Some LHC?

18:53 <zombie67> silly pi

18:53 <MTughan_> Ah... :P

18:53 <zombie67> LHC too

18:53 <zombie67> plenty of that still left

18:53 <MTughan_> Yeah, LHC has been giving them out for a while now.

18:53 * efc throws a series of random tetrads at KathrynM

18:53 <PovAddict> ptsd?

18:54 <MTughan_> Post traumatic stress disorder.

18:54 <PovAddict> ahh

18:54 <efc> Here, I'll show you Pov.

18:54 * efc throws a series of random tetrads at PovAddict.

18:54 <PovAddict> they say the japanese are technologically behind

18:55 <PovAddict> because they don't have an alphabet so they can't use acronyms to express their ideas faster

18:55 <efc> It would be a cool segment in a reality game show.. dropping those shelves on people and they have to stack them

18:55 <xcamel> well well well....

18:55 <MTughan_> efc: Have you been watching lots of Japanese game shows recently?

18:55 <PovAddict> ok now that my dad got off the phone

18:55 <PovAddict> pizza ->

18:56 <KathrynM> lol : All of my students-turned-teachers are hereby exempted from my taunting. Mea culpa!

18:56 <efc> No, but from what I hear they have a lot of outrageous stuff like that

18:56 <xcamel> anything from now on that is an obvious bald-faced outrageous lie....

18:56 <xcamel> it's OBamagic!

18:56 <zombie67> no drama obama

18:57 <xcamel> Win 7 has no bugs!!

18:58 <xcamel> OBamagically!!!

18:58 <efc> what did he say?

18:58 <CoderForLife> It's a miracle

18:58 <xcamel> 'Zactly

18:58 <zombie67> only the government can solve the problem

18:58 <zombie67> makes me want to cry

18:59 <CoderForLife> The economy!  It's healed!

18:59 <xcamel> OBamagically!!!

18:59 * CoderForLife tosses his cookies

18:59 <efc> well, thats good to know, where's my hooker(s)?

18:59 <zombie67> in the bread lines

19:00 <xcamel> Just ask for a bailout...

19:00 <efc> Larry Flint did. I'm not sure how he's going to spend 5 billion in the adult industry, but it should be a sight to behold.

19:00 <jackygrahamez> he is magical, I got the day off :-)

19:02 <MTughan_> Whoa, my download speed for Win 7 ISO just shot up...

19:02 <CoderForLife> what's the link, Mtughan?

19:02 <MTughan_> Was lucky to reach 200KB/s before. Now a steady 1.1MB/s, which the max my 10Mbit cable can handle.

19:02 <jackygrahamez> I guess 2.6 Million also got the day off :-(

19:02 <MTughan_> which is*

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19:04 <MTughan_> Oh, the speeds tapered off again... :(

19:04 <MTughan_> 80KB/s now.

19:05 <CoderForLife> what is the link MTughan_

19:05 <MTughan_> Oh, I didn't realize you meant a URL link...

19:05 * CoderForLife rolls his eyes

19:05 <MTughan_> 32-bit: http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.iso

19:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8om8uk> (at download.microsoft.com)

19:06 <MTughan_> 64-bit: http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.iso

19:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9zl2wu> (at download.microsoft.com)

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19:06 <MTughan_> Give me a break, I didn't get any sleep last night.

19:06 <CoderForLife> thanks

19:06 <xcamel> Rookie_69 is stuck with connectile dysfunction..

19:06 <CoderForLife> dl'ing now

19:07 <zombie67> I keep it cool:  http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/obama-plays-it-cool/866342/

19:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/69zb65> (at www.nbc.com)

19:07 * Rookie_69 went deaf and had to reboot.

19:08 <MTughan_> F***ing NBC... Won't play here in Canada.

19:09 <xcamel> Obamagic!@

19:17 <CoderForLife> did you get a key e-mailed to you, MTughan_?

19:17 <MTughan_> Not yet. They're still working on that.

19:18 <CoderForLife> what's the link for that?  do you have it?

19:19 <MTughan_> I do, but it just redirects to the Windows 7 homepage ATM.

19:20 <CoderForLife> oh

19:21 <MTughan_> Although this site doesn't redirect, and should work once it's up: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

19:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9agzvs> (at technet.microsoft.com)

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19:22 <CoderForLife> k thx

19:26 <jackygrahamez> ok I know PovAddict helped me with this before, I thought I had to do a census or trash the hr file...any help? http://pastebin.com/m2835ee9b

19:26 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

19:27 <jackygrahamez> oh wait this is different its got the assignments table

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19:39 <jackygrahamez> I think I got it

19:40 <xcamel> Obamagic!!

19:41 <jackygrahamez> I hear the Bush administration is going to remove all the O's from the whitehouse keyboards

19:46 <xcamel> I hear they're getting Bill Clinton back to teach the staff the perfect "O"

19:52 <jackygrahamez> um how can I fix my quota?

19:52 <jackygrahamez> I made the changes in the config file

19:53 <jackygrahamez> reset the project

19:53 <jackygrahamez> detached the project

19:53 <jackygrahamez> ahh

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20:07 <xcamel> spike >> 91.144.1.10

20:11 <CoderForLife> spronked

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20:13 * CoderForLife rolls up the sidewalk

20:13 <CoderForLife> gn boincsters

20:14 <wdsmia> &nn

20:14 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

20:14 <Rookie_69> NN, Don.

20:19 <xcamel> nite..

20:22 <Rookie_69> NN.

20:23 <wdsmia> &nn

20:23 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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20:42 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:42 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 22.1F / -5.5C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Ice Pellets | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Snow...colder. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Low 10 to 15. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Colder. High in the lower 20s. (1 more message)

20:43 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

20:43 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 23.2°F / -4.9°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005.0hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 10.3mph / 16.6km/h | Updated: 9:42 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries ending this evening then cloudy periods with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low -10C(14F).; Saturday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 (1 more message)

20:43 <wdsmia> &more

20:43 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the morning.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low around 15. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

20:44 <wdsmia> &more Rookie_69

20:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: km/h (12 mph). High -6C(21F). Saturday night clear. Low -15C(5F).; Sunday - Periods of snow. High -4C(24F).;

20:50 <xcamel> 11 here

20:50 <xcamel> gonna be a cold week..

20:51 <wdsmia> cold month

20:53 <Rookie_69> &convert 11 F to C

20:53 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".

20:53 <Rookie_69> &math convert 11 F to C

20:53 <Romulus> Rookie_69: -11.6666666667

20:54 <xcamel> I'm really getting to hate winter

20:54 <xcamel> dyed in the wool chill bigot.

20:54 <Rookie_69> I like winter... It's just all the cold and the snow that I hate.

20:54 <wdsmia> lol

20:55 <Rookie_69> ... and the dark.

20:55 <xcamel> oh yeah.. that global dimming stuff...

20:56 <xcamel> leaking away to the southern hemisphere..

20:56 <Rookie_69> You mean that doesn't refer to drivers' IQ's?

20:58 <PovAddict> I sooo need a new hard disk!!!

20:58 <PovAddict> I started downloading Windows 7 iso from MTughan's link

20:58 <PovAddict> I now have 820MB free

20:59 <Rookie_69> Lol! POV doesn't have a large enough Hard Drive.

20:59 <PovAddict> uh huh

21:02 <Rookie_69> Never mind... I can't even seem to keep my floppy drive working properly.

21:03 <Rookie_69> I blame it on Bill Gates.

21:03 <MTughan> I didn't include a floppy drive in this build.

21:04 <Rookie_69> Once in a blue moon it comes in handy.

21:04 <PovAddict> damn

21:04 <PovAddict> this isn't good free space

21:04 <PovAddict> firing up kdirstat

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22:00 <wdsmia> rm -fR /* that will free up your drive

22:01 <wdsmia> :p

22:03 <PovAddict> I gotta buy a new disk

22:03 <wdsmia> all it takes is $

22:04 * wdsmia dont buy new drives he just jacks up the old box and replaces the computer

22:05 <Rookie_69> What's money when you're talking about computer parts?

22:06 <Rookie_69> Things like food and rent are overrated anyways.

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22:19 <MTughan_> Finally... CoderForLife: Just got a keycode.

22:19 <MTughan_> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/10/psstheres-how-to-get-your-windows-7-beta-key

22:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7u67ak> (at www.neowin.net)

22:28 <Tidus> MTughan_: that's not really workin for me

22:28 <Tidus> Error

22:28 <Tidus> The site is currently experiencing technical difficulties, please check back in the next business day.

22:29 <MTughan_> It takes a couple refreshes.

22:29 <Tidus> after about 300 refreshes

22:29 <MTughan_> I think I had to peg MS 600+ times.

22:29 <Tidus> i've got the disks already... just need the damned key :P

22:29 <Tidus> why must they make this difficult?

22:30 <MTughan_> Because "they're adding more servers".

22:30 <MTughan_> I've got 97% of the disk, so I'm ready to go once I have that.

22:30 <Rookie_69> Did somebody mention Microsoft?

22:30 <Tidus> yeah... 2.5 million people hammering a few machines all at once kinda makes things crash

22:30 <MTughan_> Well, almost... I have to figure out if I can trash my XP partition for W7.

22:30 <Tidus> especially windwos

22:30 <Tidus> i'm lucky in the fact i have a disk i can empty for it

22:30 <wdsmia> thats $M

22:31 <Tidus> contains just an 80gb "slush" partition

22:32 <MTughan_> I have a Fedora 7 installation, but that's on the same disk as this OS, and I used it more, so there's probably stuff I do want off there.

22:34 <Tidus> yeah it's not giving me the key

22:35 <Tidus> i'm debating if i should pull out my spare 60gb lappy hdd so i don't have to worry about trashing a perfectly good dual boot setup

22:37 <Rookie_69> The software is free, but the key will cost you.

22:38 <wdsmia> spare drives are the way to go if you have one you can trash

22:38 <MTughan_> Tidus: Want me to attempt to get another key?

22:39 <Tidus> MTughan_: if you want to. dont have to though

22:40 <MTughan_> Ah nuts... It gave me the same code.

22:40 <MTughan_> One more try to confirm...

22:40 <MTughan_> Yeah, same code.

22:40 <MTughan_> What browser are you using Tidus?

22:40 <Tidus> both chrome and ie7

22:41 <MTughan_> I tried many a time in Firefox (my main browser) but couldn't get a code. Once I booted up IE7 (which I never use) and used that, I got one within about 10 tries.

22:41 <MTughan_> Maybe try to use a new browser.

22:42 <Tidus> i'm attempting ie7 again

22:43 <Tidus> how long ago did you try?

22:44 <MTughan_> I posted right after I got the code.

22:44 <MTughan_> So maybe 25 minutes ago.

22:44 <Tidus> hm.

22:44 <Tidus> yeah its not going anywhere for me

22:45 <MTughan_> Like I say, use a fresh browser. Maybe download Firefox, and use that.

22:45 <Tidus> eh, i'll just wait

22:45 <Tidus> based on what a friend of mine was tellin me, windows 7 at this stage isn't worth the lockups and random freezes

22:46 <Rookie_69> You mean there's a browser other than Firefox?

22:46 <MTughan_> What I heard is that it's quite stable.

22:46 <Tidus> see, a friend of mine was having nothing but trouble with it on 3 different computers

22:46 <MTughan_> Rookie_69: There's lots of other browsers... IE, Chrome, Safari, Netscape, Konqueror, lynx, Flock, and other obscure ones.

22:47 <MTughan_> Oh, Camino.

22:47 <Tidus> erase netscape from the list... hasn't been current for ages

22:47 <Tidus> and they dont make browsers anymore

22:47 <MTughan_> Maybe, but it's still around.

22:47 <Tidus> but you also have galeon

22:47 <Tidus> dillo

22:48 <MTughan_> Yeah. In no way do I claim that to be a comprehensive list.

22:49 <Rookie_69> To steal a quote, "Youth is wasted on the young:.

22:49 <Rookie_69> Stupid keyboard.

22:49 <MTughan_> "It's time that I announced that I was born at a very young age."

22:51 * Rookie_69 says Bye bye.

22:52 <wdsmia> &nn

22:52 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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23:14 <XioNYC> &wx 10010

23:14 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 29.0F / -1.7C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear early...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy with snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around an inch. Highs in the lower 30s. Northwest winds (2 more messages)

23:14 <XioNYC> &more

23:14 <Romulus> XioNYC: around 5 mph...becoming east in the afternoon. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday Night - Snow...with a chance of sleet after midnight. Total snow accumulation of 5 to 7 inches. Near steady temperature in the upper 20s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for New York County in effect until 8:00 AM EST on (1 more message)

23:14 <XioNYC> &more

23:14 <Romulus> XioNYC: January 11, 2009;

23:15 <XioNYC> &nn

23:15 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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23:35 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

23:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 18.8F / -7.3C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Ice Pellets | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Snow...colder. New snow accumulation around 4 inches. Low 10 to 15. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Light snow early in the (2 more messages)

23:35 <wdsmia> &more

23:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: morning...then a slight chance of light snow late in the morning. Colder. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 5 to 6 inches. High in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the morning. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low around 15. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Polk County in effect until (1 more message)

23:35 <wdsmia> &more

23:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: 9:00 AM CST on January 10, 2009;

23:36 <wdsmia> guess there forcast of 1 in was snafu

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