IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-01-16

00:08 <zombie67> p3d?

00:09 <MTughan> Hmm, I don't think I configured that... Looks like Win7 turns off the Task Manager "Always on Top" option by default.

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00:23 <zombie67> http://www.dotsch.de/boinc/Dotsch_UX.html

00:23 <Romulus> Title: Dotsch_UX (at www.dotsch.de)

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00:31 <MTughan> http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/2009-01-06-force-trainer-toy_N.htm

00:31 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9ksglz> (at www.usatoday.com)

00:32 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm off to bed... Night.

00:32 <Tidus> seeya

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00:34 <zombie67> gn

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00:55 <zombie67> w00t!  http://vcsc.cs.uh.edu/virtual-prairie/forum_thread.php?id=56&nowrap=true#531

00:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9hep9u> (at vcsc.cs.uh.edu)

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01:28 <Tidus> stupid power outages...

01:30 <efc> around 26 F now

01:30 <Tidus> 9F here

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01:37 <zombie67> &wx94568

01:37 <Romulus> zombie67: Are you daft?

01:38 <zombie67> &wx 94568

01:38 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 44.3F / 6.8C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening then areas of low clouds and patchy dense fog developing overnight. Lows in the 30s to 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Areas of low clouds and patchy dense fog in the morning. (1 more message)

01:38 <zombie67> &more

01:38 <Romulus> zombie67: Otherwise sunny. Highs in the lower 60s to mid 70s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly clear in the evening then areas of low clouds and patchy dense fog developing overnight. Lows in the lower 30s to mid 40s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.;

01:38 <zombie67> brrrr

01:38 <zombie67> ;)

01:39 <Tidus> &zipinfo 94568

01:39 <Romulus> Tidus: City: Dublin; State: CA; County: Alameda; Area Code: 925; Time Zone: PST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 37.7172 (North); Longitude: 121.9289 (West)

01:39 <Tidus> bah... california. no wonder.

01:39 <Tidus> zombie67: you'd freeze yer cojones off if you came here

01:39 <Tidus> &wx 65647

01:39 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 10.4F / -12.0C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.82in / 1043.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Bitterly cold. Lows 1 below to 3 degrees above zero. Wind chill readings as cold as 5 below. Light and variable winds.; Friday - Partly sunny. Not as cold. Highs in the lower 30s. Lowest wind chill readings (1 more message)

01:52 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

01:52 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 17F / -8C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1030hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with isolated flurries. Lows of 8 to 11 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill values as low as 7 below after midnight.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 17. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill (1 more message)

01:52 <XioNYC> &more

01:52 <Romulus> XioNYC: values as low as 7 below in the morning.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 8 above. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill values as low as 3 below.; Special Weather Statement for Queens County in effect until 6:00 AM EST on January 16, 2009;

01:59 <zombie67> tidus, I am 45 min from the cold pacific (50F)

01:59 <Tidus> fun

01:59 <zombie67> and I am 3 hours from the sierra mountains

01:59 <zombie67> Lake Tahoe

01:59 <Tidus> i'm in the middle of missouri

01:59 <zombie67> and 5 hours from death valley

02:00 <zombie67> i was up in tahoe last weekenf

02:00 <zombie67> awesome

02:00 <zombie67> like being in vail or similar

02:00 <zombie67> i know cold

02:01 <zombie67> got a house up there

02:01 <zombie67> &wx lake tahoe

02:01 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.46in / 1032hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 13 to 23. East winds around 10 mph.; Friday - Sunny. Highs 46 to 56. East winds around 10 mph.; Friday Night - Clear. Lows 14 to 24. East winds up to 10 mph.;

02:04 <zombie67> &wx mohjave

02:05 <Romulus> zombie67: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

02:05 <zombie67> spelling error

02:05 <zombie67> &wx death valley

02:05 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 37F / 2.8C | Humidity: 22% | Pressure: 30.99in / 1049.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 40s. Light wind.; Friday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Light wind.; Friday Night - Clear. Lows around 40. Light wind.;

02:05 <zombie67> THAT is low humidity

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03:38 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: -1.3F / -18.5C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.61in / 1036.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Clear. Lows 0 to 5 below. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Wind chill values as low as 20 below.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 10 to 15. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Wind chill values as low as 21 below.; Friday Night - (1 more message)

03:38 <Tidus> a little cold dont ya think?

03:38 <CoderForLife> a tad bit

03:39 <CoderForLife> &more

03:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 5 above. West winds around 5 mph... becoming south after midnight. Wind chill values as low as 11 below after midnight.; Wind Chill Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on January 16, 2009;

03:39 <CoderForLife> morning Tidus

03:56 <CoderForLife> brrr  brb

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04:06 <Tidus> no pong reply... hate it when that happens

04:06 <CoderForLife> yup

04:06 <Tidus> sucks because my proxy silently drops icmp at times

04:07 <CoderForLife> wouldn't want ping to be reliable

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04:08 <Tidus> and we died again...

04:08 <CoderForLife> you didn't have to take me seriously

04:09 <Tidus> lol i probably didn't hear what you said

04:09 <CoderForLife> "wouldn't want ping to be reliable"

04:09 <Tidus> lol

04:12 <CoderForLife> duh - "Predictions about the future are always risky"

04:13 <Tidus> yeah...

04:13 <Tidus> seems to be one of those always true statements

04:13 <CoderForLife> I am very good at predicting the past

04:13 <Tidus> rofl...

04:13 <FreeLarry58> there's a past?????

04:14 <Tidus> the past is what makes us who we are

04:14 <CoderForLife> somewhere back there in the history of time

04:14 <FreeLarry58> thought there was only the now

04:15 <FreeLarry58> of course the rockies did grow into fine straping lads from those little bumps on the plain

04:15 <CoderForLife> you are an eyewitness to this event?

04:16 <FreeLarry58> well did stub my toe once there

04:16 <CoderForLife> you need to change your nick to FreeLarry5,800,000

04:16 <FreeLarry58> next you'll want an invite to talk to paul bunyon

04:16 <FreeLarry58> lol

04:17 <FreeLarry58> a little to warm then

04:17 <CoderForLife> imagine the size of BabeBurgers

04:17 <CoderForLife> and blue!

04:17 <FreeLarry58> lol they were a bit tought

04:17 <FreeLarry58> tough

04:17 * Tidus stares at the "@" beside CoderForLife's name

04:18 <FreeLarry58> humm must be a moderator/op

04:19 <Tidus> i knew that... just wondering when the split happened.

04:19 <Tidus> he never wears ops unless a split happened.

04:20 <FreeLarry58> been noticiing a few getting op assigned when they sign in

04:20 <Tidus> depends on how the access list is set up

04:20 <Tidus> in another channel i'm in, my access level allows me to get ops, but it'll only voice me when i sign in

04:20 <FreeLarry58> yup

04:21 <FreeLarry58> whats the worse they can do to you - ban for life?

04:21 <FreeLarry58> course would miss the banter

04:22 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:22 <FreeLarry58> uh oh now he's thinking

04:23 <CoderForLife> watsa matta Tidus?

04:23 * FreeLarry58 thinks he may be a bit green CoderForLife

04:23 <CoderForLife> ah

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04:24 <CoderForLife> there - mere mortal again

04:26 <CoderForLife> the house is making different popping noises at -4F

04:26 <FreeLarry58> a little temperature gradiant thru the walls

04:27 <CoderForLife> yup

04:27 <Tidus> lol

04:27 <CoderForLife> right now it gets a grade of -4F

04:28 <Tidus> FreeLarry58: not entirely green... been an op in a social channel for nearly 3 yrs now

04:28 <Tidus> i just never wear ops unless someone needs the banstick

04:28 <FreeLarry58> lol 70 on one side -4 on other 74 degree differential

04:28 <FreeLarry58> a little stress there

04:28 <CoderForLife> it makes a difference =)

04:29 <FreeLarry58> definite

04:29 <FreeLarry58> did you check your antifreeze level for the your watercooling system

04:30 <CoderForLife> watercooling? for my mainframe?

04:30 <FreeLarry58> sure... you are OC'ing it to 500% aren'tyou

04:30 <CoderForLife> isn't everyone?

04:31 <FreeLarry58> of course - called stock here

04:33 <FreeLarry58> humm pending on abc jumpd 2500 in one day

04:33 <FreeLarry58> einstien down to 3300

04:34 <CoderForLife> He's not as smart as he used to be?

04:34 <FreeLarry58> nope - i started moving machines to new project for next one to get to 1M mark

04:35 <CoderForLife> there's a new E@H?

04:36 <FreeLarry58> reached 1M there - noticed as i was leaving it the new wu's claiming less but granting slightly more than old

04:36 <FreeLarry58> almost a factor of 3 to claimed instead of 2.5

04:37 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:38 <FreeLarry58> i may be way off of my math also

04:39 <CoderForLife> I accepted that possibility right from the start

04:39 * FreeLarry58 lets see 1 + 1 = 11

04:40 <FreeLarry58> thats 3 right

04:40 <CoderForLife> when + is the symbol for string concatenation, absolutely

04:40 <FreeLarry58> lol

04:40 <CoderForLife> 1 + 1 = 10

04:41 <FreeLarry58> noooo must be 9

04:41 <Tidus> there are 10 types of people in the world. those who speak binary and those who don't

04:41 <FreeLarry58> octal also

04:41 * CoderForLife sees that Tidus can type jokes faster than he can

04:41 <FreeLarry58> and don't forget those hex people

04:42 <CoderForLife> 0xPeople

04:42 <FreeLarry58> Tidus did you ever give those mice thier ultimate answer?

04:42 <Tidus> FreeLarry58: huh?

04:42 <FreeLarry58> 42

04:42 <Tidus> oh

04:43 <FreeLarry58> and on the hitchhiker note - guess i'll drift to bed

04:43 <CoderForLife> tc

04:43 <Tidus> seeya

04:43 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

04:43 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

04:43 <CoderForLife> take your towel

04:43 <FreeLarry58> bandaid for toe more like it

04:44 <CoderForLife> I got some LHC work

04:50 * CoderForLife gets ready for the other kind of w@#%

04:50 <Tidus> oh yay

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05:36 <CoderForLife> back

05:45 <CoderForLife> -5F  off to w@#%

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06:06 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023

06:06 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 38F / 3.3C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 57 on the North Rim to around 62 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 23 on the North Rim to around 26 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs (1 more message)

06:06 <BadBarbarian> &more

06:06 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 55 on the North Rim to around 61 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

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06:10 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -7.7F / -22.1C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.68in / 1038.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Sunny early in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Very cold. High 10 to 15. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero in the morning.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low (1 more message)

06:10 <wdsmia> &more

06:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 10. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. West wind 15 to 20 mph.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 10:00 AM CST on January 16, 2009;

06:24 <hawmps> -17F right now

06:24 <hawmps> 74.222.1.158 << spork

06:48 * KathrynM wrote her first python program

06:49 * KathrynM is very proud of herself.

06:53 <hawmps> 2 places on the way in were -24F

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09:02 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

09:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: -3.5F / -19.7C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.62in / 1036.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny early in the morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Very cold. High 10 to 15. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 25 below to 35 below zero in the morning.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low (1 more message)

09:02 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:02 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: around 10. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. West wind 15 to 20 mph.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 10:00 AM CST on January 16, 2009;

09:04 <PovAdct_w> congrats KathrynM :P

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09:13 <KathrynM> thanks PovAdct_w

09:14 <PovAdct_w> omg wtf

09:14 <KathrynM> huh?

09:15 <PovAdct_w> just saw something on somebody's facebook that *better be* a joke or an euphemism for something..

09:16 <KathrynM> oh

09:18 <PovAdct_w> and it's telling me "this profile isn't currently available" so I can't see if someone commented on it

09:19 <PovAdct_w> I saw it on the list of friends' news but I can't get to the profile

09:32 <PovAdct_w> hmph

09:36 <wdsmia_w> LOL the Brenton Skating Plaza closed due to cold weather

09:38 <hawmps> all those school districts that just had to "go green" with biodiesel... nothing is moving now... all closed.

10:11 * ELGono wooohooooo its finally working ... just need to mount it into the chassis

10:12 <ELGono> http://matrix.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/~elgono/pg/?Qwd=./SuSy-GC&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M

10:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8l2br3> (at matrix.fem.tu-ilmenau.de)

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11:19 <MTughan> Wow... http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2009/01/16/profits-from-ishoot-iphone-game-cause-developer-to-quit-job

11:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9vkap9> (at arstechnica.com)

11:21 <MTughan> bbl

11:24 <ELGono> hehe we were talking about ifart yesterday

11:24 <ELGono> iphone apps seem to be a good market with that distribution network

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11:49 <MTughan> All right, we're supposed to have a fire alarm at noon today, which is in 10 minutes. I figure it could be +- 10 minutes, so if I don't respond for a while, you know what's happened.

11:50 <MTughan> Unless no one in here cares about me, in which case, it'll be business as usual. :P

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11:51 <MTughan> http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/16/app-store-hits-15000-apps-500-million-downloads/

11:51 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6to5eq> (at www.macrumors.com)

11:52 <MTughan> rofl... "It's very difficult to create an application or service that will cause users to start switching en masse, but that's the kind of challenge Microsoft loves (regardless of how much it costs them)."

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13:05 <hawmps> all the way up to 12F

13:07 <Hodapp> it hit -5 F here at night

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13:47 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

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13:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 12.7F / -10.7C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Very cold. Scattered flurries. High 10 to 15. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill readings around 15 below.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. Low around 10. Temperature steady or slowly (1 more message)

13:48 <wdsmia_w> &more

13:48 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: rising after midnight. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. Not as cold. High in the upper 20s. West wind 15 to 20 mph.;

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14:07 <PovAddict> wdsmia_w: gimme

14:07 <PovAddict> &wx eze

14:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 95°F / 35°C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:96 F.; Clear. Low:77 F.; Clear. High:100 F.; Rain. Low:60 F.; Chance of Rain. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F.;

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14:10 <MTughan> &wx YOW

14:10 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: -7°F / -22°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.40in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM EST; Today - A mix of sun and cloud with 40 percent chance of flurries near noon. Becoming sunny this afternoon. High -20C(-4F).; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of flurries overnight. Low -26C(-15F).; Saturday - Cloudy with 40 (1 more message)

14:10 <MTughan> It be damn cold here... Good for the CPU though. 51C under full load. :D

14:11 <MTughan> HDDs are at 14 and 12C... xD

14:11 <PovAddict> also gimme

14:11 <MTughan> &math (-22 + 35) / 2

14:11 <Romulus> MTughan: 6.5

14:12 <MTughan> Average? It'd be good for both of us...

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14:15 <MTughan> I think it's time to OC more... bbiab

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14:20 <PovAddict> lol

14:20 <PovAddict> computer not heating your room enough?

14:20 <PovAddict> how OC'd is it already?

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14:25 <MTughan_> I was just going to answer the question...

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14:26 <MTughan_> It was 3.186GHz, stock is 2.4GHz.

14:26 <Soul_keeper> MTughan_, i'm catching you :)

14:27 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/boincrace/test2.png

14:27 <MTughan_> Gah, hot potato...

14:27 <MTughan_> Stupid heatsink... TIM connection seems to have broken. :(

14:28 <MTughan_> And Canada Post is taking its sweet time getting my TIM cleaner to me so I can reseat the heatsink...

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14:34 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Yes, but my quad is really only now doing 24/7 crunching. I got 10K+ credits yesterday. :)

14:37 <PovAddict> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/01/11/funny-pictures-wuzincup/

14:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a3lukk> (at icanhascheezburger.com)

14:40 <Soul_keeper> then we are matched well now

14:41 <MTughan> For now... Just wait a couple days. ;)

14:42 <PovAddict> yeah

14:42 <PovAddict> just wait till he blows his computer up with too much overclocking

14:42 <MTughan> Heh. Not likely.

14:43 <MTughan> MW released app v0.8.

14:45 <hawmps> http://lrllamas.com/solectra1.jpg

14:45 <hawmps> http://lrllamas.com/solectra2.jpg

14:45 <hawmps> phone cams are not that great

14:45 <MTughan> What's a photovoltaic inverter?

14:47 <Soul_keeper> probably just means it turns the dc from the solar panels (photovoltaic is a type of panel) into ac

14:48 <Soul_keeper> it's tied to the grid, so theoretically you can run the meter backwards and get payed/credited by the electric company  for giving them electricity :)

14:49 <MTughan> Yeah, that makes sense.

14:49 <PovAddict> that happened in practice too

14:49 <PovAddict> I read about a man with quite a small house and solar panels on the roof

14:50 <PovAddict> he got paid by the electric company

14:54 <hawmps> converts the dc current from the solar panels to AC for the grid

14:54 <hawmps> that one is peak rated at 63KW

14:55 <DerMeister> Here you usually don't use the electricity from solar panels yourself. You sell it completly to the electric company.

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14:57 <PovAddict> DerMeister: so you don't even need batteries?

14:57 <DerMeister> No.

14:57 <PovAddict> (electricity comes from the company during the night)

14:57 <PovAddict> cool stuff

14:58 <DerMeister> not only during the night - all the electricity you use.

14:58 <Tidus> oh so you have a second meter installed going the other direction for what you generate?

14:58 <PovAddict> yeah but during the day, you could say you're using the one you generated :)

14:58 <DerMeister> yeah, but that would be stupid

14:58 <PovAddict> who knows, the same electrons may go back and forth

14:59 <PovAddict> :)

14:59 <DerMeister> because you get more money for selling the electricity than you need for buying it.

14:59 <Tidus> DerMeister: so there's second meter on your house pointing back upstream for what you generate?

15:00 <DerMeister> Tidus: We don't have solar panels - but yes, I would guess that there would be a second meter if we had some panels.

15:00 <Tidus> ah ok, i thought you generated your own juice

15:01 <MTughan_> It's Jay who does, or at least has pictures of it.

15:01 <Tidus> ah ok

15:01 <MTughan> Although I don't know why I'm reaching to type on the laptop, when I can type comfortably on this keyboard... >_>

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15:01 <Tidus> rofl

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15:02 <Tidus> so why were you reaching for the laptop?

15:02 <MTughan> Because I was watching the IRC conversation on it.

15:03 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/NewDesktop.jpg

15:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8bdptz> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

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15:03 <MTughan> Same setup, but no Mac.

15:04 <Tidus> ah ok

15:04 <Tidus> and nice, you got the bastardized G15

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15:07 <Tidus> the G15 used to have 18 "G" keys on it, and the lcd used to flip open or shut

15:07 <MTughan> http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/16/157237

15:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9swosf> (at idle.slashdot.org)

15:07 <MTughan> Yeah, I know.

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15:10 <Tidus> lol...

15:10 <Tidus> star wars 4, 5, and 6 in 3 minutes

15:10 <MTughan> I think I like this keyboard better though. The orange looks quite nice, and the LCD looks like it was meant to be there. In the original, I think it looks like it was added on.

15:10 <MTughan> Heh, more like 4, 6, and 5. :P

15:11 <Tidus> oh yeah... she did get it backwards.

15:11 <MTughan> For just seeing bits and pieces though, it's not bad.

15:11 <Tidus> yeah

15:12 <Tidus> it was more like 4, 6(5) and 5(6)

15:12 <Tidus> got bits and pieces from those two movies mixed in with each other

15:13 <MTughan> Anyway, about the G15... I thought the original looked like the LCD was tacked on.

15:13 <MTughan> The current G11 looks like the original G15 without the LCD.

15:13 <Tidus> i liked the original because i could close it

15:13 <MTughan> Hmm, looks like many people missed the other G keys... http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/4956&cl=ca,en

15:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8zvjn5> (at www.logitech.com)

15:14 <Tidus> dark gaming sessions, the lcd got a little bright but i couldn't turn the keyboard brightness down or i couldnt see the other keys

15:14 <MTughan> They have two different brightness levesl in here, although I usually just leave it on full.

15:15 <Tidus> and the G19's still only got 12

15:15 <Tidus> the original G15 had 18

15:15 <Tidus> and i used the crap out of those

15:15 <MTughan> Oh, only 12? I knew the original had 18.

15:15 <MTughan> Huh, I missed that...

15:15 <MTughan> They also have this: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/5123&cl=ca,en

15:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/72pzh3> (at www.logitech.com)

15:17 <Tidus> uh, no

15:18 <Tidus> i'd rather take the G11

15:18 <Tidus> even though it's missing the lcd

15:19 <MTughan> I haven't found too much use for the G keys myself. I play mostly racing games.

15:19 <MTughan> Main controls there are the arrow keys and the space bar.

15:20 <Tidus> i play mostly MMOs

15:20 <Tidus> i used the G keys for multi-action macros

15:21 <Tidus> i kinda miss my g15...

15:22 <MTughan> Oh? You don't have it anymore?

15:22 <Tidus> nah, liquid damaged.

15:22 <MTughan> Ouch.

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15:22 <PovAddict> aw

15:23 <Tidus> yeah... the G19's nice, but i'd miss the 6 extra macro keys

15:23 <Tidus> so i'd probably be best off with the G11

15:28 <Tidus> i actually used over 40 of the 54 macros

15:28 <PovAddict> &wx eze

15:28 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 95°F / 35°C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:96 F.; Clear. Low:77 F.; Clear. High:100 F.; Rain. Low:60 F.; Chance of Rain. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F.;

15:28 <MTughan> Wow...

15:29 <MTughan> With 12 G keys and three memory pages, that provides 36 keys, so not enough for you.

15:29 <Tidus> toys r us still carries the original online...

15:29 <Tidus> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2609862

15:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3wm2cz> (at www.toysrus.com)

15:29 <MTughan> The only G key I use on a regular basis is G5, and only because it's mapped to F5 by default... Useful for refreshing web pages. :P

15:33 <Tidus> woohoo. found a site that still carries the original G15, and isn't out of stock

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16:19 <xcamel> afternoon...

16:19 <efc> hey xcamel.

16:19 <efc> I hate to unleash this on the channel. But in the interest of full disclosure..

16:19 <efc> http://home.earthlink.net/~cottongim/Sagittarius.mp3

16:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7purzt> (at home.earthlink.net)

16:21 <efc> I guess I can kiss the cabinet position goodbye

16:30 <yoyo[RKN]> re

16:30 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

16:30 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 10:20 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:33 F.; Overcast. Low:22 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:32 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F.; Chance of Snow. High:37 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 F.;

16:30 <xcamel> 88.80.7.248, ns1.nazwij.pl, 124.118.247.8, 195.159.69.11, 116.50.154.149  << various hacks.

16:38 <xcamel> friggin heat wave..

16:38 <xcamel> 9 here, up from -24 this morning...

16:40 <efc> it'll just break freezing for a few hours here

16:40 <PovAddict> http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/worm_w32_downadup_al.shtml

16:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7knom8> (at www.f-secure.com)

16:40 <PovAddict> scary stuff going on with that worm...

16:49 <xcamel> looks nasty

16:53 <PovAddict> f-secure estimates 8 million infections

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16:59 <CoderForLife> 'evenin'

17:00 <efc> moo cfl

17:00 <MTughan> Wow, I didn't read through the entire description before... Scary stuff.

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17:11 <CoderForLife> moo efc

17:13 <MTughan> 'lo CFL, efc

17:14 <CoderForLife> ehlo MTughan

17:18 <xcamel> 'lo Don

17:19 <CoderForLife> hello Jay - really sweatin' up there, eh?

17:19 <xcamel> that thing spreads faster than std's after a senior prom..

17:19 <Tidus> lol

17:19 <PovAddict> yeah

17:19 <PovAddict> thing is

17:20 <PovAddict> if in your corporate network *one* machine lacks the security update, you're probably doomed :P

17:20 <CoderForLife> prom optional

17:20 <PovAddict> it has other ways of spreading

17:20 <xcamel> after the -24F this morning, anything is a heatwave.

17:20 <PovAddict> &math convert 24 F C

17:20 <Romulus> PovAddict: -4.44444444444

17:20 <PovAddict> brrr

17:21 <CoderForLife> plink ns28949.ovh.net - for all the good that attempt will do

17:21 <MTughan> PovAddict: Not 24F...

17:21 <MTughan> &math convert -24 F to C

17:21 <Romulus> MTughan: -31.1111111111

17:21 <PovAddict> o

17:21 <PovAddict> !

17:21 <xcamel> yeah.. real nice weather

17:21 <PovAddict> also

17:22 <PovAddict> plink all these *outgoing*: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/downadup_domain_blocklist_17_31.txt

17:22 <xcamel> just north of me was -29

17:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9vyjok> (at www.f-secure.com)

17:22 <MTughan> Holy sh*t...

17:22 <CoderForLife> I've seen pics where some components of the air start condensing out - anyone know what, and at what temp?

17:22 <PovAddict> MTughan: it's an algorithm that generates them

17:22 <MTughan> To both -29 and the domain list.

17:22 <PovAddict> most of those domain names don't even exist; the worm tries them at random

17:23 <PovAddict> then one of the attackers goes and registers one of those domain names, and he gets access to the infected machine network again

17:23 <MTughan> CoderForLife: Nitrogen? I don't know what temp.

17:23 <CoderForLife> I was thinking nitrogen

17:23 <CoderForLife> -50F or so?

17:23 <MTughan> &math convert -29 F to C

17:23 <Romulus> MTughan: -33.8888888889

17:23 <PovAddict> nitrogen seems to be -320F :)

17:23 <MTughan> We're warming up over the next couple of days, should get better here...

17:24 <MTughan> Low was -30C last night, so just about the same as you Jay.

17:24 <MTughan> &math convert -30 C to F

17:24 <Romulus> MTughan: -22

17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:25 <xcamel> might be up to +20 by sunday

17:25 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:25 <PovAddict> CO² −69F

17:25 <xcamel> and a little snow..

17:25 <MTughan> &math convert 20 F to C

17:25 <Romulus> MTughan: -6.66666666667

17:25 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:25 <MTughan> We're not getting up there until Wednesday.

17:26 <CoderForLife> "At atmospheric pressure molecular nitrogen condenses (liquifies) at 77 K (-195.8 C)"

17:26 <CoderForLife> CO2 Pov?

17:26 <MTughan> &math convert 77 K to F

17:26 <Romulus> MTughan: -321.07

17:27 * MTughan is listening to Question! by System of a Down

17:27 <MTughan> Really odd rhythms... :P

17:27 <efc> 1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, 11 12!

17:28 <PovAddict> lol

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17:32 <MTughan> Apparently, it's hard for even the band to play it.

17:34 <MTughan> Boring cover, but the music is there for anyone who hasn't heard it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXFqPhbRr4

17:34 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - System Of A Down - Question! #08 (at www.youtube.com)

17:45 <Tidus> MTughan: i see what you mean by odd rythms

17:45 <Tidus> and wow i can't spell... need caffeine...

17:45 <MTughan> Heh. It's a great song though.

17:45 <MTughan> And don't worry about spelling rhythm right. I usually have to try twice to do it right. ;)

17:45 <Tidus> it's hard to listen to music right now... heh

17:46 <Tidus> computer's under enough load it's starting to drop out

17:46 <MTughan> You increased BOINC's priority?

17:46 <Tidus> i wont boinc on a portable

17:47 <Tidus> fan noise drives me nuts

17:47 <xcamel> that makes you racist - it's 'white noise'

17:47 <Rookie_69> Lol.

17:47 <xcamel> :-/

17:48 <Tidus> but seriously... when i have boinc active on this computer, the system fan spins up to about 6000rpm

17:49 <xcamel> bose quiet comfort headphones...

17:49 <Tidus> rofl... http://punditkitchen.com/2009/01/16/political-pictures-us-airways-installs-vista/

17:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7twrsd> (at punditkitchen.com)

18:03 <Soul_keeper> haha

18:03 * CoderForLife listens to Question

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18:06 * CoderForLife finds himself irrevocably changed ny listening to System of a Down

18:06 <MTughan> Is that good or bad?

18:06 <Tidus> lol

18:07 <PovAddict> 'ny'?

18:07 <CoderForLife> just different

18:07 <xcamel> just damaged.

18:07 <CoderForLife> drain bamaged

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18:07 <xcamel> kind of like playing Metallica backward

18:07 <PovAddict> lol

18:08 <PovAddict> MTughan: that *is* weird rhythms...

18:08 <MTughan> And I've basically memorized it... xD

18:08 <CoderForLife> sorta like Yanni, but screaming with pounding drums

18:08 * PovAddict will avoid trying to play that

18:08 <Tidus> lol

18:09 <CoderForLife> Ozzie Osburne Plays Yanni

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18:10 <PovAddict> is that youtube channel official?

18:10 <MTughan> Dunno. It works.

18:10 <PovAddict> or is it a massive copyright violation?

18:10 <PovAddict> it seems to have every song :|

18:10 <PovAddict> or at least a lot of them

18:10 <MTughan> There were five albums in all by SOAD.

18:11 <CoderForLife> Linkin Park plays Within Attraction

18:11 <MTughan> And it's been up since September 2007, so I guess it's fine.

18:11 <MTughan> Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQOSfnV4hM

18:11 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - System Of A Down - This Cocaine Makes Me Feel ... #06 (at www.youtube.com)

18:15 * CoderForLife tosses his cookies

18:19 <MTughan> Gonna see if I can find one of my favourite songs by them...

18:19 <xcamel> are there any?

18:20 <CoderForLife> BSG Season 4.5 starts tonight

18:20 <xcamel> you beat me by seconds

18:20 <CoderForLife> You Will Know The Truth

18:20 <MTughan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEDYIpl-amw

18:20 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - System Of A Down - Mr. Jack #07 (at www.youtube.com)

18:20 <CoderForLife> one last SOAD attempt

18:21 <xcamel> you will not know the truth... not yet.

18:21 <MTughan> BSG?

18:21 <Romulus> I guess BSG is great tonight, MTughan

18:22 <CoderForLife> Rommie is a fan

18:22 <Soul_keeper> one of the singers for system of the down has the largest bong collection of any other singer i believe

18:22 <Soul_keeper> might be the drummer, can't remember

18:22 <xcamel> the 5th... Bawny Fwank waltzing out singing the "Elwmer Fuwd Hwuntng Song"

18:22 <MTughan> There's only one main singer...

18:22 <MTughan> The dummer's John Dolmayan.

18:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah meant people* or whatever

18:23 <Soul_keeper> he was in that high times magazine when i was in HS and smoking

18:23 <CoderForLife> well I guess this makes it official

18:23 <Tidus> MTughan: actually, there are two singers in SOAD... Serj and Daron

18:23 <CoderForLife> I am too old -  this all sounds like crap to me

18:23 <Tidus> they both share the duty

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18:23 <MTughan> Tidus: Yeah, but originally Serj was the main singer. Daron started backups later on.

18:23 * CoderForLife plays Rush 2112

18:24 <Soul_keeper> their arials song is catchy,  it'll get stuck in your head (easy to whistle)  so watch out

18:24 <MTughan> Yeah, Aerials is probably my all time favourite SOAD song.

18:24 <MTughan> It was a little odd... When I started listening to SOAD about 6 months ago, I actually recognized Aerials right away. It was a little odd.

18:24 <Soul_keeper> i listen to a lot of country music anymore

18:25 <MTughan> "It was a little odd" * 2

18:25 <xcamel> btw... the last SGA was good, and the adds for SGU started...

18:26 <efc> That SGA would have been better served as a 2 hour..

18:28 <xcamel> Aerials is seriously good metal...

18:28 <xcamel> forgot about that one...

18:28 <CoderForLife> got a link?

18:28 <xcamel> and the fact he looks like Dennis Miller..

18:28 <xcamel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlqMmK19S0

18:29 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Aerials (at www.youtube.com)

18:29 <Soul_keeper> version 7.0 (toxicity)   is their other good song

18:29 <Soul_keeper> can't say i like any of their other songs

18:29 <xcamel> thanks...

18:29 <xcamel> god forbid my son catches me listening to this...

18:29 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:30 <Soul_keeper> you might scare him conservative

18:30 <xcamel> is already is... seriously.

18:30 <MTughan> I have the actual music video too... It's a great song.

18:30 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [01:10:214] Aerials .:. System of a Down .:. Toxicity .:. Track 14

18:30 <xcamel> watching it..

18:30 <CoderForLife> yes - I've heard this

18:30 <CoderForLife> good one

18:31 <xcamel> the sepia version of Toxicity?

18:31 <Soul_keeper> their other songs are too fast or incoherent. basically sound like a mental patient throwing a fit cause he didn't get no jello

18:32 <MTughan> Heh, like "This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song". Prime example.

18:33 <Soul_keeper> they are like the stoned version of godsmack i guess ....

18:33 <Soul_keeper> really really stoned version

18:33 <xcamel> Toxicity live from BDO

18:33 <xcamel> not too bad

18:34 <xcamel> drummer is insane...

18:34 <MTughan> Heh.

18:35 <MTughan> Haven't seen this one...

18:37 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:15:836] Ashes .:. Five Finger Death Punch .:. The Way of the Fist .:. Track 1

18:50 <Soul_keeper> so AMD is laying off 10% more of their workers, catch that ?

18:52 <xcamel> yup.. mostly marketing types..

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18:53 <Soul_keeper> seems like they layoff 10% each year now

18:59 <rodolfo_> can anyone help me?

18:59 <rodolfo_> i need to test my skype

18:59 <MTughan> Hmm, reminds me that I need to install Skype on here...

19:02 <Tidus> heh

19:04 <xcamel> mine is off.

19:09 <Rookie_69> Mine is connected to several other people ATM...

19:10 <Tidus> i'm not even signed in

19:10 <KathrynM> I'm signed on, but can only do text

19:10 <xcamel> not logged in? Buy a new log.

19:10 <Tidus> when i sign in, can only do text due to lack of microphone

19:16 <xcamel> re-skyped here

19:16 <MTughan> Tidus: Same thing here... I have to restart the laptop into Windows to use Skype with microphone and video.

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19:20 * Rookie_69 thought he used to Skype with linux...

19:20 <xcamel> woah.. looks like scifi.com has been made a bit more linux friendly...

19:20 <xcamel> finally...

19:21 <xcamel> Anyone else ever watch that special on Hendrik Schoen?

20:09 * efc looks for a local sonotube distributer

20:17 <xcamel> sonotubes will cause you more trouble than it's worth

20:18 <efc> I don't want to pour concrete in em :)

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20:34 * CoderForLife goes for a BSG injection

20:34 <CoderForLife> gn

20:34 <xcamel> laterz..

20:34 <wdsmia> &nn

20:34 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

20:35 <xcamel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pGht71KFkY

20:35 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Thunderclap Newman Something In The Air (at www.youtube.com)

20:35 <efc> Everybody got my song recording right ...

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20:35 <efc> it went over with a resounding thud

20:37 <xcamel> anyway... the cardboard tubes are really unstable.

20:38 <efc> Hmm, thats not good. I need something pretty rigid. Though it will be braced some.

20:42 <efc> this other guy that used my lens routed out wood outer and inner braces for the ends, and screwed them together through the tube

20:42 <Rookie_69> If I could get all the carbon dust at work to organise itself into strings, I'd send you some.

20:43 <xcamel> that worked..

20:43 <Rookie_69> Ver 2.3.4 or whatever?

20:43 <xcamel> skype upgraded.

20:43 <xcamel> 2.0.0.134-fc4

20:43 <xcamel> bbiaf

20:44 <Rookie_69> It upgraded... but does it work?

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20:47 <xcamel> seems so..

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20:49 <rodolfo_> does anyone have skype here?

20:51 <Tidus> i do, but no microphone

20:51 <rodolfo_> Tidus: can i do a test?

20:52 <Tidus> sure

20:52 <rodolfo_> Tidus: what's your login?

20:53 <Tidus> see pm

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21:12 <xcamel> does it blend?

21:12 <MTughan> Skype?

21:12 <Romulus> Somebody said Skype is online, quail, MTughan

21:12 <MTughan> o_O

21:13 <Tidus> O.o

21:13 <Tidus> o.O

21:13 <Tidus> O.O

21:13 <Tidus> O.<

21:14 <MTughan> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/17/0014205

21:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7v5few> (at yro.slashdot.org)

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21:54 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Some people don't see fit to talk to us lowlifes on Skype...

21:55 <wdsmia> Hmm must be talking about Michael

21:55 <Rookie_69> I didn't say that...

21:58 <MTughan> I don't have a microphone.

21:59 <Rookie_69> Not built into laptop?

22:00 <MTughan> This is the desktop. The laptop is in Fedora ATM.

22:00 <Tidus> i dont have one builtin on my laptop

22:00 <Rookie_69> We'll give him 12 hours to buy one...

22:01 <MTughan> And I don't have any transportation other than walking.

22:01 <MTughan> No computer stores near here, or any electronic stores.

22:01 <wdsmia> they do make skype for FC

22:01 <MTughan> Yes, and I have it on there. I don't think Fedora reads the microphone though.

22:01 <Rookie_69> You in Thunder Bay?

22:02 <Tidus> MTughan: make a test call to 'echo123'

22:02 <Tidus> that'll tell ya if it works or not

22:02 <MTughan> True.

22:02 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Nope, Ottawa.

22:04 <Rookie_69> Back in college town, huh? Say Hi to my sister then.

22:05 <MTughan> "Problem with audio playback".

22:05 <MTughan> Seems Skype doesn't like pulseaudio or something...

22:05 <Tidus> run it from the command line

22:05 <Tidus> 'padsp skype'

22:05 <MTughan> Ah, emulate OSS...

22:06 <MTughan> Or does that emulate ALSA?

22:06 <Tidus> emulates alsa

22:06 <MTughan> "Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so"

22:07 <Tidus> fun.

22:07 <Tidus> try running it with aoss instead of padsp

22:08 <MTughan> Hold on a sec, looking for a spoon...

22:09 <MTughan> Late night snack, Korean style spicy noodles.

22:09 <MTughan> aoss not found.

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22:09 <Tidus> lol

22:09 <Tidus> hm...

22:09 <MTughan> locate didn't find it either.

22:09 <Tidus> you on 64 bit fedora?

22:10 <MTughan> Yes.

22:10 <Tidus> that might explain a few things

22:10 <Tidus> need the 32 bit alsa libs and pulseaudio libs

22:10 <Tidus> otherwise 32 bit apps can't use sound

22:10 <MTughan> Might explain why Rhythmbox works...

22:11 <Tidus> the 32 and 64 bit binaries can coexist on a fedora machine

22:11 <Tidus> just append .i386 to the end of the package name

22:11 <MTughan> Yep, just looking for them now.

22:13 <MTughan> Hmm... Showed up in Pulseaudio, but no output. It's not muted.

22:13 <Tidus> weird.

22:14 <MTughan> Oh, I know why... Stupid me.

22:14 <MTughan> I plugged a short audio cable in the front inputs to shut the speakers off. xD

22:14 <Tidus> ROFL

22:15 <Tidus> add me to skype if you guys want. login name's seize_the_night

22:15 <MTughan> Hold on, seems I've got a phantom Skype process...

22:16 <Tidus> lol...

22:16 <Tidus> phantom process... hosed libraries...

22:16 <MTughan> It's up now. As for sound...

22:16 <MTughan> No go.

22:16 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi

22:17 <MTughan> So let's try padsp again...

22:17 <Tidus> MTughan: have you installed all the necessary alsa and pulseaudio libraries for i386 instead of x86_64?

22:17 <MTughan> I believe so.

22:18 <MTughan> Still no go. The stream shows in Pulseaudio volume control, but no output.

22:18 <Tidus> weird

22:19 <Tidus> and echo123 isn't picking anything up?

22:19 <MTughan> Let's try external speakers...

22:19 <PovAddict> MTughan: ^ see link (when you can)

22:19 <MTughan> It's there, but faint...

22:19 <MTughan> Yeah, thanks Pov.

22:20 <MTughan> Hmm... Doing the test call rings, but no sound from the call.

22:20 <MTughan> All the sound devices are set to use Pulse.

22:21 <Tidus> i dont have a mic

22:22 <Tidus> i'm working on that.

22:22 <Tidus> brb

22:22 <MTughan> Oh well, I know Windows works.

22:23 <MTughan> PovAddict: lol, nice.

22:31 <PovAddict> http://pastebin.com/d6de375ac <- now working

22:31 <Romulus> Title: Python pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

22:40 <KathrynM> I just want any sound in Fedora already

22:40 <KathrynM> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475756

22:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/9wnt5u> (at bugzilla.redhat.com)

22:41 <MTughan> I can play Rhythmbox, but seems Skype doesn't like it.

22:41 <Tidus> still missing a library

22:41 <MTughan> Ah, you commented...

22:41 <MTughan> Tidus: I checked all the i386 equiv libraries that were available.

22:42 <Tidus> and then you're sposed to restart the pulse sound server.

22:42 <Tidus> i think

22:42 <MTughan> Am I?

22:42 <Romulus> Rumor has it Am I is thinking about spamassassin, MTughan

22:42 <MTughan> forget "Am I"

22:42 <Tidus> not sure.

22:46 <Tidus> forget Am I

22:46 <Romulus> Gotcha, Tidus.

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22:58 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

22:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 15.3F / -9.3C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Patchy fog early in the evening. Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of light snow early in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Not as cold. Low 10 to 15. Temperature steady or slowly rising (1 more message)

22:59 <wdsmia> heat wave!

23:02 <KathrynM> nice day here today

23:02 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

23:02 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM KST; Clear. High:48 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F.; Clear. High:44 F.; Overcast. Low:35 F.;

23:03 * wdsmia slaps KathrynM with a slushball

23:06 <KathrynM> lol

23:06 <Tidus> &wx 65648

23:06 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 16.2F / -8.8C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 7.3mph / 11.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Warmer. Temperatures nearly steady in the lower 20s. South winds 10 to 20 mph.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Breezy. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph until late afternoon becoming west 10 to (1 more message)

23:06 <Tidus> doh... wrong zip

23:07 <Tidus> &wx 65647

23:07 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 20.3F / -6.5C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Breezy...warmer. Lows in the lower 20s. South winds 10 to 15 mph until early morning increasing to 15 to 25 mph during the predawn hours.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Breezy. Highs in the upper 40s. Southwest (1 more message)

23:07 <KathrynM> &wx 44137

23:07 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: -1.6F / -18.7C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.62in / 1036.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Overnight - Very cold. Mostly clear. Lows from 5 below to 10 below zero. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Wind chill values as low as 22 below.; Saturday - Increasing clouds. Snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around an (2 more messages)

23:07 <KathrynM> brrrrrrr

23:07 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

23:07 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 5.0°F / -15.0°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.36in / 1028.0hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 12:07 AM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of flurries late this evening and overnight. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low -20C(-4F). Cold wind chill -25 overnight.; Saturday - Sunny with cloudy periods. 40 percent (1 more message)

23:07 <KathrynM> glad I'm not at home

23:07 <Rookie_69> Sorry I am at home.

23:08 <KathrynM> <---- errands

23:08 <KathrynM> laters

23:10 <Soul_keeper> i'm about to freaking lose it

23:11 <Rookie_69> Welcome to my club.

23:11 <Soul_keeper> can't find the specs for my monitor anywhere

23:11 <Tidus> what kind of monitor?

23:11 <Soul_keeper> the manufacturer don't have them on their website

23:11 <Soul_keeper> and google has no mention of it

23:11 <Soul_keeper> viewsonic g220fb crt

23:12 <Tidus> maximum resolution?

23:12 <Soul_keeper> not to be confused with the sony g220

23:12 <PovAddict> ah that's why, crts are so last decade

23:12 <Soul_keeper> i need the sync ranges

23:12 <Rookie_69> &google viewsonicg220 fb

23:12 <Romulus> Rookie_69: No matches found. (Search took 0.19 seconds)

23:12 <Soul_keeper> the screen is flickering so i need these sync ranges right, probably gonna burn it up

23:12 <Rookie_69> Sux.

23:13 <Tidus> Soul_keeper:  Frequency Fh: 30-110KHz; Fv: 50-160Hz

23:13 <Tidus> from http://hk.viewsonic.com/en/products/productspecs.php?id=239

23:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6w8y3m> (at hk.viewsonic.com)

23:13 <Soul_keeper> Tidus, how did you find that ?

23:13 <Tidus> google

23:14 <Tidus> search query: viewsonic g220fb

23:14 <PovAddict> 160hz??

23:14 <Soul_keeper>         HorizSync 31.5-110

23:14 <Soul_keeper>         VertRefresh 90-180

23:14 <Soul_keeper> that's what i'm running now, could explain the flickering

23:14 <Tidus> Soul_keeper: you'll want to allow refresh to dip under 70

23:14 <Tidus> 50-160 is what should be there

23:14 <Tidus> otherwise you'll be unable to use any resolution higher than 1600x1200

23:15 <Tidus> that monitor'll go up to 2048x1536, albeit at 60hz

23:15 <Soul_keeper> i'm running 2048x1536  now

23:15 <Tidus> i'd back it down to 1600x1200 to save your eyes :P

23:16 <Tidus> it'll run at least 85hz at that res

23:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah i need the extra screen tho :)

23:17 <Tidus> get a newer monitor :P

23:17 <Tidus> or a second one

23:18 <Soul_keeper> i'm poor

23:18 <Tidus> a 24" lcd can be had fairly cheap, does 1920x1200

23:19 <Soul_keeper> i live off 6 cent peices of bread, the monitor will have to wait till next year

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23:20 <Hodapp> how cheap is "fairly cheap"?

23:20 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: if I win the lottery, do you want some?

23:21 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, :)  of course

23:21 <Tidus> under 300 USD

23:21 <Soul_keeper> i lost like 4 grand on the stock market this week

23:21 <Soul_keeper> i'm unemployed and can't pay next months bills,  so the monitor will have to wait :)

23:22 <Tidus> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009152

23:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4uujyh> (at www.newegg.com)

23:22 <mydog2> what are you guys looking to buy?

23:23 <Soul_keeper> ok i'll try those sync ranges now brb

23:23 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: I'm employed and without any expenses

23:23 <Soul_keeper> you're lucky then

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23:25 <mydog2> hey guys...

23:26 <Tidus> what's up?

23:29 <Rookie_69> NN.

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23:31 <PovAddict> ditto

23:31 <Soul_keeper> the display looks a bit crisper with these ranges :)

23:32 <Soul_keeper> thanks Tidus

23:41 <Soul_keeper> freaks

23:47 <Tidus> np

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