IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2009-01-18

00:00 <Tidus> what? it's only 11pm :P

00:00 <Rookie_69> 0100 here.

00:01 <Tidus> where you at?

00:01 <Rookie_69> Thar's about 5 hours past my usual bedtime.

00:01 <Rookie_69> I'm East-Coast Canada.

00:01 <Tidus> ah ok

00:01 <Tidus> i'm central US

00:02 <Rookie_69> AST.

00:02 <Tidus> CDT here

00:02 <Tidus> er.

00:02 <Tidus> hm.

00:02 <Rookie_69> CST?

00:02 <Tidus> would seem i'm CST at the moment

00:02 <Rookie_69> Lol.

00:03 <Tidus> so 2 hrs behind you

00:06 <Rookie_69> 11 pm is still later than my usual time... I guess all the pretty red lights next door woke me up.

00:07 <Tidus> lol

00:07 <Rookie_69> ... temporarily.

00:07 <Rookie_69> I'm about to head off.

00:07 <Rookie_69> ... or fall asleep here.

00:08 <Tidus> alright Rookie_69. sleep well

00:08 <Rookie_69> It wouldn't be the first time I woke up with qwerty across my forehead.

00:08 <Rookie_69> NN.

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01:00 <efc> remoo again

01:00 <Tidus> re-hi

01:01 <efc> hehe, Guantanimo Going Out of Business Sale

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01:01 <efc> Gags, Car Batteries, they all must go!

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02:01 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

02:01 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 7:50 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:37 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F.; Chance of Snow. High:41 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 F.; Chance of Snow. High:37 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:21 F.;

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03:07 <MTughan> rofl...

03:07 <Romulus> <> (at

03:11 <zombie67>

03:11 <Romulus> <> (at

03:11 <zombie67> userfriendly is #7 @ WCG

03:11 <MTughan> Yes, that's their main project.

03:12 <zombie67> impressive, considering the competition there

03:13 <MTughan> We can't touch XtremeSystems, Easynews, or 2ch though.

03:13 <zombie67> MT, you are userfriendly?

03:13 <MTughan> Yes.

03:13 <zombie67> never knew that

03:13 <MTughan> What, you thought I was TFFE?

03:14 <zombie67> Only a few months ago, did I connect the cartoon to the team

03:14 <zombie67> I am slow somtimes

03:14 <MTughan> Heh.

03:14 <zombie67> how did the comic develop into a team?

03:15 <MTughan> I don't know. By the time I started reading the comic, the team was already there.

03:17 <zombie67> I have a daily comic routine, UF is in my top 5

03:17 <MTughan> I have CAD, xkcd, Explosm,, and QC.

03:17 <MTughan> Usually in that order.

03:20 <zombie67> dilbert, pvp, megatokyo, pennyarcade, UF, Joy of Tech, Full Frontal Nerdity, Devil's panties, God Mode, xkcd,

03:20 <MTughan> Nice.

03:21 <zombie67> I just have them on a bookmark, that they all open at once

03:21 <zombie67> btw, that was in no particular order

03:33 <MTughan> &math 19300 / 3600

03:33 <Romulus> MTughan: 5.36111111111

03:50 <Tidus> my comic routine is usually megatokyo, 8-bit theater, dilbert, and xkcd

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04:23 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 30.9F / -0.6C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow. Highs in the upper 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers...mainly in the evening. Lows 10 to 15. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

04:23 <CoderForLife> &more

04:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of snow 30 percent.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.;

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04:31 <Pinchiukas> only rosetta is down?

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04:58 <CoderForLife> plink

05:05 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:13 <CoderForLife> b

05:15 <Pinchiukas> well?

05:15 <Romulus> I guess well is kind of happy whit debian atm, Pinchiukas

05:15 <Pinchiukas> ...

05:16 <CoderForLife> I can confirm rosetta is down; other projects are up

05:17 <CoderForLife> does that help, Pinchiukas?

05:23 <Pinchiukas> well somewhat I suppose :)

05:24 <Pinchiukas> any info on what's happening and when it'll be back up?

05:25 <CoderForLife> 1/18/2009 4:47:07 AM|rosetta@home|Message from server: Server error: can't attach shared memory

05:26 <Pinchiukas> I've been seeing this before for several days, but it has been up between then and now I think

05:26 <Pinchiukas> I'm out of WUs :)

05:26 <CoderForLife> server status seems ok

05:26 <Romulus> <> (at

05:29 <Pinchiukas> but it's not :)

05:29 <CoderForLife> numbers look ok

05:29 <Romulus> <> (at

05:29 <Pinchiukas> I hope my reported work units don't get lost :|

05:29 <Pinchiukas> the WUs get reported, but new ones are not downloaded

05:30 <CoderForLife> looks like some problems on January 6

05:30 <Pinchiukas> I don't think it could be down for so long

05:32 <Pinchiukas> 18/01/2009 12:31:42|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 345600 seconds of work, reporting 2 completed tasks

05:32 <Pinchiukas> 18/01/2009 12:31:47|rosetta@home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

05:32 <Pinchiukas> maybe it's not the servers

05:32 <Pinchiukas> maybe they just ran out of work?

05:32 <CoderForLife> there were 42 WUs available

05:32 <CoderForLife> maybe not for your platform

05:33 <Pinchiukas> 42 is a terribly low amount

05:33 <Pinchiukas> is there any way to pool work units for all of my computers?

05:34 <Pinchiukas> cause I have another one that still has quite a lot of WUs

05:34 <CoderForLife> true, 42 is low - but it's not zero

05:34 <CoderForLife> I don't know about pooling

05:37 <Pinchiukas> how about running rosetta not using boinc? I don't really like it

05:44 <CoderForLife> Check their web site to see if they have a non-BOINC option - I am not aware that they do

05:45 <CoderForLife> bbiab

08:08 <xcamel> 'lo

08:32 <CoderForLife> morning xcamel

08:39 <xcamel> mornion Don

08:39 <xcamel> get any snow?

08:40 <CoderForLife> nearly nothing - some cute little white pellets, I pellet deep - looks like shredded styrofoam

08:40 <CoderForLife> er 1 pellet deep

08:40 <CoderForLife> how about you?

08:40 <xcamel> we have the "one to three" thing going on..

08:41 <CoderForLife> not that I'm complaining, but we're missing all the snow this winter

08:42 <xcamel> 35 degrees warmer than friday morning

08:42 <CoderForLife> there's been no motivation to pull out the snow thrower yet

08:43 <CoderForLife> it was the foot of snow we got last March that unzipped my hillside

08:43 <xcamel> but it drives the frost kind of deep into the ground with no insulation

08:43 <CoderForLife> true that

08:44 * xcamel hopes the temp continues to climb

08:44 <CoderForLife> that would be helpful

08:44 <xcamel> 14 now

08:44 <xcamel> was stuck at 9 all day yesterday...

08:45 <CoderForLife> 28F here

08:45 <xcamel> send it..

08:45 <xcamel> oh.. big controversy in the AGW loony bin at the moment...

08:46 <xcamel> NOAA is denying that the "record lows" were really new "record lows"

08:46 <xcamel> **now** they claim the WSFO's are "poorly calibrated"

08:47 <CoderForLife> The Ministry of Truth is at it again

08:51 <xcamel> indeed

09:05 <xcamel> btw.. I finally had to blacklist completely.

09:11 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 15.0F / -9.4C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light snow this morning...then light snow likely this afternoon. Additional snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs in the mid 20s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy (1 more message)

09:11 <xcamel> &more

09:11 <Romulus> xcamel: with scattered snow showers. Lows around 15. Southeast winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Highs in the upper 20s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

09:13 <Crewsr3> is there anyone in here that can develop in Ubuntu?

09:14 <Crewsr3> Guess what I'm looking for is someone that can package the latest boinc release for upload into the deb repos

09:17 <xcamel> I wonder why someone would package what works right out of the box...

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09:20 <Crewsr3> xcamel, what I'm looking to do is get the lastest release into the repos

09:21 <Crewsr3> xcamel, that way it is easy to install for everyone.  That is how I found the Boinc project was looking over the repos

09:21 <xcamel> easiest, maybe, best? not hardly.

09:22 <xcamel> packaging tends to spread boinc all over your machine.

09:25 <xcamel> which is a pet peeve of mine.

09:25 * CoderForLife notes pet peeve #486

09:25 <CoderForLife> you have lots of pets =)

09:26 <xcamel> I don't think I have many peeves

09:26 <CoderForLife> ok - I'll list the pets and peeves separately from now on

09:26 <Crewsr3> xcamel, true, when you install it from cli it put everything into on directory right?

09:27 <CoderForLife> fewer is better

09:30 <xcamel> basiclly, yes.

09:30 <xcamel> basically even

09:30 <CoderForLife> one is ideal

09:31 <xcamel> just get the ready-to-run versions from

09:31 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at

09:31 <xcamel> I keep all of boinc and the projects in one protected dir

09:32 <CoderForLife> ditto

09:32 <Crewsr3> xcamel, I'm just a causal Linux user (all self taught) so I don't understand packaging and best pratices when it comes to linux.  Why do you think the package in the repo puts files all over your computer instead of in one folder like the "ready-to-run" version you linked to

09:35 <xcamel> because of the "rules" developed over time about where execs, data, and config files are to be put in all linux systems.

09:36 <xcamel> keep in mind, I do what works for me, and the way I did it, it takes just seconds to update and run a new version, without all the possible problems a package introduces.

09:38 <xcamel> wow - 16F

09:38 <xcamel> more global warming please...

09:39 <CoderForLife> the trend is good

09:39 <xcamel> the last few days have been pretty tough

09:39 <CoderForLife> sure

09:45 <Crewsr3> xcamel, do you run boinc on ubuntu?

10:28 <PovAddict> Pinchiukas: I don't know of any boinc project that also has a non-boinc system

10:28 <PovAddict> Pinchiukas: except one or two that had a different system and *then* moved to BOINC

10:34 <CoderForLife> I think you're right PovAddict - I just didn't know

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10:43 <xcamel> running on fedora, but mostly the same..

10:43 <xcamel> (sorry, was out feeding animals)

10:52 <xcamel> and trying to charge the battery in the truck

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10:54 <Pinchiukas> PovAddict: how about rosetta?

11:06 <PovAddict> nope

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11:20 <PovAddict> "Lego bricks from 1963 still interlock with those made in 2008" wow

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11:22 <CoderForLife> and that's a good thing PovAddict

11:22 <PovAddict> now that's backwards compatibility

11:22 <PovAddict> what software (or computer hardware) can claim that?

11:23 <ELGono> that analogy ist not fair ;)

11:24 <ELGono> at least my sgi from 1991ist still running and useable and can communicate with modern maschines

11:24 <ELGono> and i got a nice C64 emu

11:25 <ELGono> but even that doesn't cover 48 years of backwards compability

11:25 <xcamel> all the sudden 21F feels pretty good.

11:25 <ELGono> &math convert 21 F to C

11:25 <Romulus> ELGono: -6.11111111111

11:26 <ELGono> sounds much warmer, indeed

11:27 <xcamel> truck started finally.. I wonder if the engine light will go foo..

11:27 <xcamel> or off even

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11:44 <PovAddict> hey Nickuwo

11:45 <Nickuwo> hey Pov, how r ya?

11:46 <xcamel> winter is soooo getting on my nerves...

11:47 <Nickuwo> i hear ya. im moving to san deigo

11:49 <PovAddict> &wx eze

11:49 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM ARST; Chance of Rain. High:75 F.; Clear. Low:50 F.; Clear. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:59 F.; Clear. High:89 F.; Clear. Low:66 F.;

11:49 <PovAddict> perfect

11:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

11:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 29.4F / -1.4C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Isolated light snow showers in the afternoon. High in the lower 30s. West wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then (1 more message)

11:50 <wdsmia> &more

11:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: becoming mostly cloudy. Colder. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy. Occasional flurries. High in the upper 20s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

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12:18 <MTughan> rofl... My antivirus classified a BSOD screensaver as something like "fraud.bluescreen". You're damn right, it is!

12:22 <CoderForLife> re-hi

12:23 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

12:24 <CoderForLife> heya Michael

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13:35 <CoderForLife> re-re-hi

13:44 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

13:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 28.0F / -2.2C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1005.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy with scattered snow showers. Highs in the upper 20s. Temperatures falling into the lower 20s this afternoon. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of (1 more message)

13:44 <CoderForLife> &more

13:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: snow showers...mainly in the evening. Lows 10 to 15. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Martin Luther King Jr Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.;

13:45 <CoderForLife> oh, I didn't realize tomorrow is MLK day

13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

13:53 <CoderForLife> hello yoyo[RKN]

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14:25 * CoderForLife re-wanders off

14:25 <efc> moo

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14:40 <mydog2> CoderForLife - it's mlk day.. even for az!

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15:08 <xcamel> re-hi

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15:28 <Soul_keeper> ok

15:29 <xcamel> Honor-a-socialist day.

15:29 <Soul_keeper> lol

15:30 <Soul_keeper> no that would be inauguration day ...

15:31 <xcamel> already making my head hurt.

15:36 <xcamel> I would pay for a big east coast blizzard on tuesday...

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15:47 <efc> moo xcamel

15:48 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

15:53 <efc> I will welcome Wednesday..

15:54 <xcamel> Is that when the aliens arrive?

15:54 <efc> Mainly because its after Tuesday

15:56 <efc> Its when I won't have to listen to the inaug. junk anymore

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16:54 * jasong recently found out if you type in Obama or McCain, that POVAddict's irc client edits it out. so, I'd like to use this opportunity to state that Argentina sucks. Just kidding :)

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17:23 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I'm thinking about ways to make BOINC screensaver graphics, and guess what is making everything complex and tricky?

17:23 <PovAddict> er missing words there

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17:23 <PovAddict> I'm thinking about ways to make BOINC screensaver graphics more flexible, and guess what is making everything complex and tricky?

17:23 <PovAddict> se-cu-ri-ty

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17:24 <CoderForLife> It is rarely convenient

17:24 <PovAddict> no sh%&

17:24 <efc> Security.. just bolt some on afterwards.

17:24 <CoderForLife> I'm struggling with executing some shell scripts that run perl Code our of PHP

17:25 <CoderForLife> er out*

17:25 <CoderForLife> guess what I expect the problem is

17:25 <PovAddict> permissions

17:25 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa

17:25 <PovAddict> the ideal flexibility would be if project graphics were in a DLL

17:26 <PovAddict> then you could have fancy stuff like graphics showing within the simple GUI window

17:26 * CoderForLife returns to the security salt mine

17:26 <PovAddict> but in that situation, the code in the DLL would run on the same user account as the GUI, which means the current user

17:26 <CoderForLife> laterz - from the laptop

17:27 <PovAddict> what if the render() function draws some cool stuff and a progress bar with the WU status... also reads your financial data off your documents folder and sends it back to a server

17:28 <PovAddict> would make all the current "sandboxing" useless

17:28 <Soul_keeper> what's all this drama about ?

17:30 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: boinc has new features to improve security, and I'm thinking how to improve screensaver graphics without breaking that security in the process

17:30 <Soul_keeper> good luck

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18:22 <KathrynM> maybe if I start now I can get the contacts in my eyes before I have to go to w*@^

18:22 <PovAddict> :o

18:22 <PovAddict> that hard to put on?

18:22 <KathrynM> they seem to like sticking to my finger rather than my eyeball

18:22 <KathrynM> when I did it at the store, they clapped when I finally got one in

18:22 <KathrynM> after like 25 minutes

18:23 <PovAddict> -.-

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18:32 <CoderOnTheCouch> just fixed my permissions problem

18:33 <PovAddict> CIRC

18:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> SIRC

18:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> PARC

18:56 <CoderOnTheCouch> now fixing some half-done Perl Code from over a year ago

19:18 <efc> moo COTC

19:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> moo efc

19:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> sorry - was Coding

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19:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> just about ready to stop for the evening - as if that were possible

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19:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> and I stop

19:54 <PovAddict> skype took a whole 5 minutes to login

19:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> that's a problem...

19:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> gn

19:54 <PovAddict> bye

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20:31 <Soul_keeper> what's going on here ?

20:31 <efc> moo, not much

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20:50 <xcamel> re-hi

20:52 <xcamel> spork >>

20:53 <efc> moo

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20:55 * xcamel yawns

20:59 <efc> I wish I had a large business, so I could turn it into a small business

21:08 <Soul_keeper> fun'

21:08 <Soul_keeper> like amd ?

21:08 <xcamel> lol

21:09 <Soul_keeper> at this rate transmeta will be larger than them soon

21:10 <efc> i think these days, you have to use the absolute value to figure the success of a business

21:12 <xcamel> wow - 40 Al'qida fighters wipes out by the "black death"

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21:12 <xcamel> ain't karma a bitch.

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21:14 <Hodapp> xcamel: link?

21:15 <xcamel> hold on..

21:15 <xcamel>

21:15 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:45 <BadBarbarian> Hey Hey How About them Cardinals

21:47 <xcamel> really?

21:51 <BadBarbarian> yes really

21:51 <BadBarbarian> going to the superbowl lol

21:52 <Soul_keeper> cool

21:52 <Soul_keeper> well they are the closest team to where i live after the chargers, so nice to see them go

21:53 * xcamel hates footbrawl

21:54 <BadBarbarian> for the first time

21:54 <BadBarbarian> lol

21:55 <BadBarbarian> i really thought the chargers would be there too

21:56 <xcamel> nytol

21:58 <BadBarbarian> nite Xcamel

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22:45 <MTughan> Uh... I did the calculations wrong for this workunit... I should be granted 2 million credits...

22:45 <Tidus> rofl...

22:45 <Tidus> that might be a little bit out there.

22:45 <MTughan> I bet ABC is very glad for the 1K credit limit now. DA would be crawling down their backs. :P

22:46 <Tidus> MTughan: fixed the linux tower's lockup problems.

22:46 <Tank_Master> well, if you should get 2 million, I should ge 3 million cus you finished it

22:47 <MTughan> lol

22:51 <efc> its rare that I see jaw-dropping weirdness on the internet, but it does still happen sometimes

22:52 <Soul_keeper> i had to rip those pesky windows keys off my keyboard

22:53 <Soul_keeper> could backup parts for other usefull keys that wear out :)

22:53 <Soul_keeper> good*

22:53 <Tidus> now only if they were the same size as the rest of the keys...

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23:28 <Soul_keeper> Tidus, yeah i had to cut them up

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