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00:50 <efc> moo
00:52 <Tidus> oom
00:52 <XioNYC> omo
01:07 * efc finishes off his Gouda stash
01:07 <MTughan> You're a cheese nut?
01:08 <Tidus> <3 the 'real mode' linux consoles... not really
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01:10 <jasong> I'm not meaning to get into political stuff, but I suspect that when the president elect gets sworn into office, he'll be signing hundreds of documents that night to change policies. What's the best website to get the lowdown afterward?
01:11 <efc> Just trying Gouda. Usually I eat havarti.
01:12 <MTughan> Ah, havarti is good. Never had gouda.
01:12 <efc> Its like a sharper version of Havarti, best I can tell
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01:28 <Tidus> one of my favorite cheeses is still tillamook sharp
01:29 <efc> I need a good assortment..
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01:38 <XioNYC> jasong: I doubt it - there whole day is going to be "lost" in the inauguration and celebration events. The best source for that kind of info will be WhiteHouse.gov
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01:46 <jasong> okay, thanks
01:55 <zombie67> quiet tonight
02:01 <jasong> Yeah, too quiet
02:02 * jasong doesn't see the axe -wielding dude behind him
02:02 <jasong> AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
02:02 * XioNYC swings the axe
02:03 <XioNYC> Damn darn frickin' Windoze!
02:35 <Tidus> lol?
02:35 <Romulus> hmm... lol is it the size of those pills i've been taking for this cold, Tidus
02:36 <Tidus> forget lol
02:36 <Romulus> 10-4.
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03:17 <Soul_keeper> lol they are going to put tax refunds on prepaid credit cards now, we are in trouble
03:18 <efc> Ugh
03:19 <Soul_keeper> HR block is doing that now
03:19 <efc> Why not just lower taxes, instead of taking it and then refunding?
03:19 <Soul_keeper> so you walk out with a credit card ready to blow
03:19 <efc> Oh, I see
03:19 <Soul_keeper> because the liberals want your money
03:20 <Soul_keeper> it's "for your own good" apparently
03:20 <XioNYC> And everyone else's, too.
03:20 <Soul_keeper> they need more laws and regulations to protect us from ourselves, which cost us more money
03:20 <Soul_keeper> and more is never enough
03:21 <Soul_keeper> half the new jobs that obama is supposedly going to create will be government jobs
03:21 <Soul_keeper> that's the impression i'm getting
03:21 <Soul_keeper> more lawyers, regulators, tax collectors, etc.
03:22 <efc> Enjoy. Bed.
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03:22 <Soul_keeper> and his "public security force" which will be larger than the military
03:22 <Soul_keeper> they'll be peeking in your windows and stuff ....
03:23 <XioNYC> Good!
03:23 <XioNYC> They'll be able to keep an eye on my rig and make sure my machines are all crunching while I'm otherwise engaged!
03:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Obama Civilian Security (at www.youtube.com)
03:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Senator Obama's "Civilian National Security Force" (at www.youtube.com)
03:26 <XioNYC> Sounds like the return of Ghouliani's NYPD Street Crimes unit (but without Amadou Diallo or Abner Louima incidents).
03:27 <XioNYC> Either way, I'm not gonna get wound up about what _could_ happen. I'm more interested in what *is* happening.
03:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah hopefully he'll run out of money before it gets to soldiers with assault rifles on every street ...
03:32 <XioNYC> ...or we could just ask all the gangs to hand over their guns to The Man whilst holding hands and gleefully singing "Kumbaya".
03:32 <Soul_keeper> people forget that the nazi's were a socialist party ...
03:33 <XioNYC> They were also fascist. Americans made for lousy fascists:
03:33 <XioNYC> Gov't: "Work!"
03:33 <XioNYC> Person: "What's in it for me?"
03:33 <XioNYC> See?
03:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah spooky stuff
03:34 <XioNYC> "make" for lousy fascists - not "made".
03:34 <XioNYC> Them fingers is got minds of them's own :-P
03:35 <Soul_keeper> can only wait and see i guess, keep our guns loaded :)
03:35 <Soul_keeper> anyways gn
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04:02 <clusty> damn, ppl are starting to gang up here :D
04:02 <clusty> was quite deserted last time :D
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04:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 17.2°F / -8.2°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy with isolated snow showers. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 10 to 15. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west (1 more message)
04:59 <CoderForLife> &more
04:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: after midnight.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Highs around 30. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;
05:04 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
05:08 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany
05:08 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 35Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 14km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:33 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:33 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:21 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:33 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 ° F.;
05:12 <CoderForLife> bwb
05:14 <CoderForLife> morning ELGono
05:15 <ELGono> moo don
05:15 <ELGono> rumors in ilmenau
05:16 <CoderForLife> what rumors
05:16 <ELGono> at weekend police arrested a drunk man (punk scene) wich was found dead in prison cell next morning
05:17 <ELGono> yesterday 40 punks seized the police station
05:17 <CoderForLife> oh my
05:17 <ELGono> just heard a lot of police driving around few mins ago
05:18 <CoderForLife> no doubt
05:18 <ELGono> just waiting for the heli and some burning cars hehehe
05:19 <CoderForLife> hope it doesn't come to that
05:20 <CoderForLife> apparent cause of death for the one in jail?
05:21 <ELGono> nothing for sure before autopsy
05:22 <ELGono> but most likely alcohol
05:23 <CoderForLife> that's what I was thinking
05:23 <ELGono> police is under pressure cause they should have asked a doctor first to check whether the person is able to be improsned
05:23 <ELGono> germans have a law for everything ;)
05:25 <CoderForLife> you have doctors at every police station 24 hours a day?
05:27 <ELGono> but but the doc was there when they took him
05:30 <CoderForLife> did anyone check the condition of the doctor?
05:33 <ELGono> hehe good question
05:46 <CoderForLife> need to get ready for w@#% - bbiab
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06:00 <jrodger> evening, I have the BOINC manager running but it doesn't seem to connect to projects I have joined to, can someone spend some time and help me?
06:07 <jrodger> 07gj
06:07 <jrodger> sorry, cleaning keyboard....
06:17 <jrodger> hello?
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06:25 <hawmps> 'lo
06:26 <jrodger> hello? can you help me connect my BOINC-manager?
06:28 <desti> you need to attach to the projects
06:39 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%
06:39 <jrodger> how do I attach the projects, I cannot even connect to a server......
06:40 <XioNYC> &wx LGA
06:40 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 24°F / -4°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the lower 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 19. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; (1 more message)
06:41 <XioNYC> &more
06:41 <Romulus> XioNYC: Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Queens County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on January 20, 2009;
06:41 <CoderForLife> In BOINC Manager, select Tools / Attach to Project
06:42 <jrodger> But there are no Projects there..... to attach to
06:43 <CoderForLife> um - that's a problem
06:43 <CoderForLife> what version /platform you running?
06:43 <jrodger> F10
06:44 <CoderForLife> what version of Boinc Mgr?
06:45 <jrodger> 6.4.4
06:46 <CoderForLife> you should see project selections, I believe
06:46 <CoderForLife> I have to leave for w@@% - with the info you've posted perhaps others can help
06:46 <CoderForLife> good luck
06:46 <jrodger> Do I need connect to a computer first?
06:47 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - laterz
06:51 <jrodger> ciao
06:57 <jrodger> can anyone help me connect my BOINC Manager?
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07:06 <jrodger> fixed it, but I had to log onto BOINC as root, is this right?
07:17 * XioNYC last used BOINC on Linux from a command line (and that was years ago)
07:18 <XioNYC> Sorry I can't be of more help.
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09:29 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 January 20 - Bonestell Panorama from Mars (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
09:33 <CoderForLife> very nice - I am fascinated by Mars, and the possibilities
09:36 <CoderForLife> blame it on Bradbury
09:37 <CoderForLife> back to w@#%ing for The Man
09:40 <hawmps> heh
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09:42 <PovAdct_w> he's multiplying!
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09:42 <PovAdct_w> or not
09:42 <MTughan_> Sorry, I closed my laptop without disconnecting before. :)
09:43 * PovAdct_w goes back to some Java Code
09:43 <MTughan_> Heh, I'm doing C.
09:44 <PovAdct_w> I don't get to choose
09:44 * CoderForLife is doing is rules engine Coding on top of his PHP-based expert system
09:45 * hawmps is fighting off 'global dumbing'
09:46 <CoderForLife> good luck - it's pervasive and highly communicative
09:46 <CoderForLife> the initial symptoms of infection is a tingling up your leg
09:49 <Romulus> Title: jmeter.png (at imagebin.ca)
09:51 <PovAdct_w> apart from the fact that I hate Swing and its default look... the text fields should be aligned
09:52 <MTughan_> WTH? "BFD 2.15.91 20040904 internal error, aborting at ../../src/bfd/cache.c line 495 in bfd_cache_lookup_worker"
09:52 <MTughan_> Working with Dev-C++ to compile a C program, that came up in linking...
09:52 *** MTughan_ is now known as MTughan
09:53 <PovAdct_w> yep libbfd is a part of the linker
09:53 <MTughan> Hmm, recompile and it's gone.
09:55 <DerMeister> Seriously, no one should use Dev-C++
09:56 <MTughan> What would you recommened?
09:56 <DerMeister> Anything else :P
09:57 <DerMeister> Code::Blocks would be a good start. Or Visual Studio (Express)
09:57 <MTughan> Hmm, never heard of Code::Blocks...
09:57 <DerMeister> Or just a good editor if you don't want to do big things
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09:57 <PovAdct_w> Dev-C++ is the fastest way to get a MinGW environment up and running on Windows...
09:57 <MTughan> It's not the best IDE around, but it works.
09:58 <DerMeister> Well, I would rather say it's crap. Unmaintained crap if I remember correctly.
09:58 <PovAdct_w> there's something called wxDev-C++...
09:59 <PovAdct_w> Dev-C++ is unmaintained crap written in Delphi, wxDev-C++ is cross-platform (using wxWidgets) and latest news was in 12 January 2009
10:00 <PovAdct_w> oh wait, looks like it's not actually an IDE <.<
10:00 <PovAdct_w> it's just a wxWidgets designer for Dev-C++
10:00 <PovAdct_w> or something
10:03 <MTughan> How do you pass arrays in C? I have a function "double function(double x, int n)", calling it like "function(x, 5)", where x is an array of 5 doubles, results in "[Warning] passing arg 1 of `function' from incompatible pointer type"
10:04 <MTughan> (It's not actually called function, I put that in there)
10:04 <PovAdct_w> what's x?
10:04 <Romulus> x is evil :), PovAdct_w
10:04 <PovAdct_w> ...
10:04 <PovAdct_w> forget x
10:04 <Romulus> Got it!
10:04 <PovAdct_w> you better get it
10:04 <MTughan> I said, x is an array of 5 doubles.
10:04 <PovAdct_w> double x; f(x, 5); fails?
10:04 <MTughan> Gah, I defined it as int....
10:04 <PovAdct_w> :)
10:05 <MTughan> We're good. :)
10:22 <Soul_keeper> 13K parade participants, but over 20K security personell ...
10:22 <PovAdct_w> o_o
10:22 <Soul_keeper> 167 million dollars for this inauguration
10:25 <MTughan> bbiab
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10:44 <Soul_keeper> one of obama's white mothers has arrived at the inauguration :)
10:46 <up365> Soul_keeper, you POS his white mother and grandmother are both dead you asshole
10:47 <PovAdct_w> POS?
10:47 <Soul_keeper> nah he's got a few mothers and grandmothers, they aren't dead
10:47 <Soul_keeper> PovAdct_w, he's cussing at me
10:48 <up365> So
10:48 <Soul_keeper> up365, and ?
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10:56 <Soul_keeper> PovAdct_w, i insulted his messiah :)
11:01 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #118721 (at qdb.us)
11:05 <Soul_keeper> lol
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12:43 <Tank_Master> so has the wold ended yet?
12:43 <Tank_Master> is it time to vote for a new president yet?
12:43 <Tank_Master> :P
12:44 <MTughan> I don't know, today feels like the sh*ttiest day of all.
12:44 <PovAdct_w> why?
12:44 <MTughan> Blew my PSU yesterday, I have nothing to test it work, and Linux isn't cooperating with my laptop.
12:44 <Tank_Master> them upgrade to win7
12:45 <MTughan> I have Win7 on there, I just use Fedora for BOINC crunching.
12:45 <MTughan> Just marked it as NNW, going to move it over to Win7 soon enough.
12:45 <MTughan> Also, I have class soon, and I'm tired.
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12:52 <Tank_Master> bummer
12:57 <MTughan> All right, see you all later.
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13:23 * CoderForLife sighs
13:26 * CoderForLife suspends all other BOINC crunching in favor of LHC
13:27 * CoderForLife wanders off to other w@#% tasks
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13:30 <hawmps> more lhc work?
13:33 <CoderForLife> yes
13:33 <hawmps> ah.. got some
13:33 <DerMeister> 53k ready to send
13:34 <PovAdct_w> !
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13:43 <PovAdct_w> long ones
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14:11 <hawmps> still no osx app for lhc?
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14:32 <walkie> what does it mean: SETI@home is not available for your type of computer?
14:34 <hawmps> what type do you have?
14:37 <walkie> 2x4core xeon
14:38 <walkie> it was working but in about 00.00 gmt this night i got this message
14:39 <hawmps> what OS?
14:39 <walkie> linux rhel
14:39 <hawmps> 64 bit?
14:41 <walkie> yes
14:42 <hawmps> x desktop or no?
14:42 <walkie> yes
14:42 <hawmps> boinc version?
14:43 <walkie> 6.4.5
14:44 <hawmps> btw - seti down for maint at the moment...
14:45 <walkie> the message was 23.30 GMT previous day
14:46 <hawmps> not quite sure what is going on there then.. was running before?
14:46 <walkie> yes and was running good
14:46 <hawmps> or it might have said "no work for your platform" which might make sense.
14:47 <hawmps> and happens now and then..
14:47 <walkie> there is still some jobs continuing calculating
14:48 <walkie> SETI@home is not available for your type of computer - the exact phrase it tells me, the same for astropulse
14:49 <hawmps> I think the message is incorrect.
14:49 <walkie> well, will wait for maintenance finish
14:50 <walkie> the thing what makes me worry - there is no phrase Request for xxx sec of job after the alert
14:52 <hawmps> any other projects running?
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14:53 <walkie> no
14:54 <hawmps> hmmm..
14:55 <walkie> well, it request for work after pressing update, but maintenance time
14:55 <walkie> communication was deffered for 16 hours
14:56 <walkie> it looks like it deffer for 30 hours after alert
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15:02 <hawmps> try hitting "do network communications"
15:07 <PovAddict> walkie: it's a SETI problem, I saw it on the mailing lists
15:07 <PovAddict> there is a server mess with normal seti app + astropulse + gpus
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15:13 <Soul_keeper> what a pain, people that design riding lawnmowers are idiots
15:14 <Soul_keeper> they get in their mind that all americans are lazy fat bastards that want a battery, complete safety, lights, failsafes, etc. so they install all this stupid electrical junk and guess what fails first ...
15:14 <Soul_keeper> can't just put a pull cord on them, and can't install an alternator to charge the battery
15:14 <Soul_keeper> so i get a dead battery every other time i try to start it, and something decides it wants to fry but it can't be located
15:15 <walkie> thanks, will hope it will work after maintenance time, got to go now
15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o xcamel
15:15 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna hafta rip the entire electrical system out of the mower and redo it the right way
15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o CoderForLife
15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o hawmps
15:16 <wdsmia_w> lawnmower? try snowblower
15:16 <hawmps> WARNING: Do not remove mower electrical system while running.
15:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah i just don't get these so called engineers, they keep trying to reinvent the wheel
15:16 <Soul_keeper> pull cords worked perfectly
15:17 <hawmps> so did grabbing the prop on the front of a plane to start it...
15:17 <Soul_keeper> so they remove the tried and true system and replace it with something "new" just because it is "new" and they like "change"
15:17 <hawmps> except when it didn't.
15:17 <Soul_keeper> it's all about being lazy
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16:15 <Tidus> yay, i gots a job
16:15 <Tidus> one that gives me more than 10 hrs a week anyways XD
16:17 <FreeLarry58> good going
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17:32 <CoderForLife> congrats Tidus
17:32 <xcamel> re-hi
17:32 <CoderForLife> ditto
17:33 <CoderForLife> what a depressing day
17:33 <Tidus> oh?
17:33 <Tidus> and ty CFL... why depressing?
17:33 <CoderForLife> I wanted to go out and commit some kind of heinous crime after that speech
17:33 <Tidus> lol
17:34 <PovAddict> TV won't talk about anything else
17:34 <xcamel> Right up there with the guy at the brake shop telling you why you need new rotors
17:35 <Tidus> did anybody else catch that biden was president for 5 minutes or so?
17:35 <CoderForLife> he came very close to "spread the wealth around"
17:35 <xcamel> Ben Stein could have done a better job..
17:35 <CoderForLife> he's smarter than you, you know
17:36 <PovAddict> I guess this channel will be as mono-topic as TV
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17:36 <Tidus> bush's term ended at noon EST, but obama hadn't been sworn in at that time...
17:37 <xcamel> I believe we were without a president for about 6 minutes.
17:37 <CoderForLife> so Nancy was Prez-for-a-moment
17:37 <xcamel> AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (kill me)
17:37 <CoderForLife> lol
17:37 * Tidus kills xcamel.
17:37 <xcamel> thank you
17:37 <CoderForLife> Bush - no, Cheney - no, then Nancy
17:38 <Tidus> ah ok
17:38 <CoderForLife> order of succession
17:38 <Tidus> but, i believe the new VP had been sworn in, just not the new P
17:38 <CoderForLife> all legalisms
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17:39 <CoderForLife> Obama's been pulling the strings since the election
17:39 <Tidus> all just -isms period
17:39 <xcamel> too bad a nice socialist country like Argentina is getting a taste of "barak-a-mania"
17:40 <CoderForLife> stock market weighed in today
17:40 <xcamel> below 8000
17:40 <CoderForLife> just lovely
17:40 <xcamel> nice 40.1K there...
17:41 <CoderForLife> 401(k)?
17:41 <xcamel> no, forty point one k now
17:42 * CoderForLife must be dense
17:42 * Tidus tests CoderForLife's density ...
17:42 <Tidus> broke the stick, didn't go in... i'd say dense enough :P
17:42 <CoderForLife> my density is 40.1K
17:43 <CoderForLife> not 40.1 Kelvin
17:44 <CoderForLife> mortgage rates ticked upwards at USBank
17:44 <xcamel> still sub-5
17:44 <xcamel> ?
17:45 <xcamel> Bank of America: How to Lose $20 Billion of Value in 2 Trading Days
17:45 <CoderForLife> let's see
17:45 <CoderForLife> lol
17:45 <CoderForLife> man, you can't even flush it that fast
17:46 <CoderForLife> rate depends on points, etc of course
17:47 <xcamel> Dollar skyrockets on U.K. bank woes
17:47 <CoderForLife> yeah
17:47 <xcamel> (CNN Money)
17:47 <Tidus> i dont even think i could spend 20 billion in 2 days
17:47 <Tidus> much less lose it
17:47 <CoderForLife> USBank 30 year fixed - no points: APR: 5.443%
17:48 <xcamel> It's really easy to do - inflate the hell out of something, then declare it worthless.
17:48 <CoderForLife> A guy I went to lunch with is following these closely
17:48 <CoderForLife> we choked down Skyline while watching the TV at noon
17:48 <CoderForLife> I cried in my Coke
17:50 <xcamel> simple enough.. stay off their radar.
17:51 <xcamel> oil 38.72 +2.23
17:51 <CoderForLife> tomorrow morning is the first real presidential security briefing
17:51 <Tidus> if oil's back down to 40 a barrel, why is gas still hovering around the two dollar mark?
17:52 <CoderForLife> "Welcome to the Real World, Neo"
17:53 <xcamel> unleaded @ NYC is 1.141 wholesale
17:54 <Tidus> unleaded here is 1.729 at the pump
17:54 <xcamel> it's all taxes, and about 8 cents profit.
17:55 <xcamel> we're nearly 1.90 again
17:56 <Tidus> better than 3.90 a few months ago...
17:56 <xcamel> well well.. seems George Soros is claiming that he has finally killed the british pound
18:01 <xcamel> big cuts today all across ClearChannel...
18:01 <CoderForLife> the beginning of the end
18:02 <xcamel> and about that Aretha Franklin 'tune'.... yeeeeeeyuck!
18:02 <Tidus> yeah, her false teeth were killin her
18:03 <CoderForLife> heh
18:03 <xcamel> must be... I used to like the old broad...
18:03 <xcamel> not so much now...
18:03 <CoderForLife> signed sealed
18:05 <CoderForLife> I still have marching band in my blood
18:06 <CoderForLife> streaming Internet video needs QoS
18:06 <Tidus> lol
18:06 <xcamel> The only high point might have been Itzak and Yoyo
18:07 <CoderForLife> does IPv6 give QoS?
18:09 <xcamel> I think the same crowd was there in Caracas when Chavez took over, eh?
18:10 <CoderForLife> lol
18:10 <xcamel> I know Jimmuh was...
18:10 <CoderForLife> well true
18:11 <xcamel> what they have now...
18:12 <CoderForLife> the Chavez float
18:14 <CoderForLife> downstairs to the laptop
18:14 <CoderForLife> more entertaining and colorful commentary from there
18:15 <Tidus> lol
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18:27 <xcamel> re-poof
18:27 * FreeLarry58 humm on road in basement?
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18:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> ROFLMAO
18:27 <Tidus> lol?
18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> the parade
18:28 <FreeLarry58> lappy what you use mostly
18:28 <xcamel> not going there..
18:28 <FreeLarry58> ohh still watching inauguation?
18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> the drum major/ette
18:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's on FL - no volume
18:30 <CoderOnTheCouch> brb time to feed the birds (in the dark)
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18:32 <FreeLarry58> found a new use for drywall plastic screw anchors today - auto repair for missing screws
18:32 <Tidus> nice
18:33 <FreeLarry58> plastic bumper to inner wheelwell lost screw and needed to be shimmed - worked better than i thought it would
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18:35 * FreeLarry58 wonders why boinc 6.4.5 keeps losing projects when vista unexpectidly shuts down
18:35 <Tidus> it's vista.
18:35 <FreeLarry58> had to reattach to einstien once and lhc once
18:35 <FreeLarry58> some vista some hardware i think
18:35 <FreeLarry58> vista being to picky on timing
18:35 <Tidus> take everything you're blaming on the hardware, shift the blame to vista :P
18:36 <xcamel> seriously MSLSD now...
18:36 <xcamel> the leg-tingle channel...
18:36 <Tidus> mslsd ?
18:36 <FreeLarry58> i do and vista tech reports of crash trying to say hardware but not what - M$ on LSD?
18:37 * FreeLarry58 flashback
18:37 <FreeLarry58> ooooo look at the pretty colors.....
18:37 <Tidus> just dont claim the tv's trying to eat you...
18:37 <FreeLarry58> lol and keep away from the windows
18:38 <MTughan> lol, MSLSD.
18:38 <FreeLarry58> thier staring at you
18:38 <Tidus> seeing sound is ok
18:38 <Tidus> but believing the tv is about to eat your face... not so much
18:39 <FreeLarry58> good trips and bad trips -- really cant say have experience with either
18:39 <Tidus> just say no to drugs, because trust us, if your drugs are talking to you, you've already had too much...
18:39 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah i know - have lost a lot of childhood friends to them
18:40 <FreeLarry58> but sometimes after living 30 more years than them - i wonder if they weren't the lucky ones
18:41 * FreeLarry58 slaps face and says stop being so morbid
18:42 <Tidus> O.o
18:42 <FreeLarry58> after all look at what they have missed - including the advent of household computers
18:44 <FreeLarry58> vietnam ending- berlin wall coming down - conflicts that have started and stalled (can't say ended)
18:44 <Tidus> yeah...
18:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> back
18:45 <Tidus> wb
18:45 <xcamel> a government powerful enough to give you everything you want is more than powerful enough to take everything away from you.
18:46 <FreeLarry58> and now they are
18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> got the bird feeders filled - had to move the 8 point buck out of the way
18:46 <FreeLarry58> humm 8 pt buck makes a lot of steak and sausage
18:46 <Tidus> and jerky
18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> I keep them fed in case of hard times
18:46 <xcamel> knock him clean out, or just a gentle nudge..
18:47 * FreeLarry58 drooling
18:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> grabbed him by the antlers and flung him into the woods
18:47 <FreeLarry58> ahh what a waste
18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> saving him for a rainy day
18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> or year 3 of the new administration
18:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> need to buy a new freezer first
18:50 <CoderOnTheCouch> there's about 6 to 8 deer that lurk in the woods behind and around the house
18:51 <CoderOnTheCouch> NASA and Lunar Electric Rover
18:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> wow - that's something else
18:53 * wdsmia likes the sleeper they stole off a kenworth on the back
18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - that's it
18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> I hadn't seen it before
18:55 <xcamel> goofy looking thing
18:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> um-hmm - a Kenworth sleeper caught crewing bubble gum
18:55 <xcamel> the lunar platform mover was "more cool"
18:57 <xcamel> 'lunar truck'
18:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> doesn't need more ground clearance?
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19:05 <MTughan> COTC: IIRC, it can raise and lower each wheel independently of all the others, so it can raise itself off the ground.
19:05 <xcamel> oops... a FUBAR
19:05 <MTughan> It needs to be low for astronauts to be able to get on it.
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19:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> they can hop higher on the moon =)
19:06 <xcamel> 'chariot'
19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> Ooo The Chariot - like on Lost In Space?
19:07 <MTughan> I didn't think Mars' gravity was that different than ours.
19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> aren;t these "lunar" not "ares" vehicles?
19:07 <Tidus> if it was jupiter i'd be a little concerned about height
19:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have a crushing feeling about that
19:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> my bank's stock lost 22% today
19:09 <MTughan> Hmm, I thought they were looking at Mars vehicles... It's possible that with the design, it can go to either.
19:14 <xcamel> btw.. the guy that played the robot on 'lost in space' passed away...
19:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> oh - who was that?
19:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> Danger, Will Robinson
19:18 <xcamel> name escapes me now
19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> Lost In Space TOS?
19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> or the movie?
19:18 <xcamel> series..
19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> ah
19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> I watched it religiously
19:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> "Bob May"
19:19 <xcamel> Bob May
19:19 <xcamel> 'jinx'
19:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> Google is our friend
19:20 <Tank_Master> no its not
19:20 <xcamel> er not
19:20 <Tank_Master> lol
19:20 <xcamel> Google is our fiend
19:21 <Tank_Master> google is the befriender
19:21 <MTughan> Amazing what one letter can do...
19:21 <xcamel> finally.. correct firmware uploaded to tape drive
19:21 <Tank_Master> o.0? tape drive?
19:21 <Tank_Master> those still exist?
19:22 <xcamel> ait 3 sony 700v external
19:22 <xcamel> industrial grade backup
19:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> I demoed the enterprise change management prototype today - the opnion was "it looks like work"
19:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> duh...
19:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> wouldn't want to be caught doing that at w@#%
19:27 <xcamel> we're still wringing the bugs out of our "dot net" based system
19:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> thx for that confirmation
19:30 <Soul_keeper> 35 bucks and like 4hrs later, my lawn mower is rewired with all those pesky safety dissengage things disabled
19:30 <Soul_keeper> spend over 2hrs confused cause i hooked the gas hose up wrong
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19:32 <xcamel> hmm.. seems we really did have a "Prez NanPo" for 3:45 today, so BHO is #45 technically
19:32 <CoderOnTheCouch> as I thought
19:33 <xcamel> that would have made her face the "football"
19:33 <Tidus> so how long until people start calling him "President Hussein" ?
19:34 <xcamel> not long no
19:34 <xcamel> er now
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19:37 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
19:38 <efc> Hey
19:38 <xcamel> Hussein? nobody anymore...
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19:38 <efc> I found some 24" PVC for sale last night. I don't have a use for it. But its cool.
19:40 <xcamel> like I said... check the industrial recyclers
19:40 <efc> I have an interest in pipes in their own right
19:41 <xcamel> better chance closer to atlanta
19:43 <efc> I wish I had a hydro site large enough to need that 24" PVC ...
19:44 <xcamel> how about a giant pumpkin gun?
19:44 <Tank_Master> those are sweet
19:44 <Tidus> :D
19:46 <xcamel> I think pumkin mortars would be the next craze
19:46 <xcamel> ...go for altitude
19:46 <efc> I used 4" PVC for a 2-liter-bottle launching bazooka when I was younger
19:46 <efc> On a good shot, could get 100 yards
19:47 <xcamel> empty, I hope..
19:47 <efc> they would start out full and end up half or a third full
19:47 <xcamel> cripes...
19:48 <efc> Going straight up anyway, lots would blow out the bottom
19:48 <Tidus> lol
19:48 <efc> that was with 70 psi or so
19:49 <xcamel> nothing like an 800lb inertia shot
19:49 <Tidus> i once used a pvc air cannon to flood an old friend's room with shredded newspaper...
19:50 <Tidus> pump the chamber up to about 80psi, pack the 4 foot x 3.5" dia pipe plum full of shredded paper, let er go :)
19:50 <Tidus> sad part is... he was asleep when we did it...
19:50 <xcamel> the 2L bottles fire better butt end first and a cap on the neck - with a streamer
19:51 <Tidus> only response we got from him was "WHAT ... THE ... (you can guess this word)"
19:51 <efc> hehe
19:51 <efc> when i was doing this, 2 liter bottles were usually cylinders with rounded bottoms and another piece of plastic on the bottom that made them sit upright
19:51 <efc> better aerodynamically than the one-piece ones now
19:51 <xcamel> hmm... you just gave me an idea... for a soda bottle mortar
19:52 <Tidus> went in there next morning and found him cuddled up with a wad of the shredded paper...
19:52 <efc> shove a cut off garden hose and some leaves or grass down the neck, turn on water, run for cover..
19:52 <xcamel> when you drop the bottle in, it hits the air valve release
19:54 <efc> Getting a good seal was the trick.. you wanted one that would hold until max pressure built, and then release completely, quickly
19:56 <efc> With xcamel's PVC resources, he could rule the northeast..
19:56 <xcamel> thought about it, never did it...
19:56 <efc> I wanted to build a little stand for my cannon back then, but never did
19:56 <xcamel> one of those 2500lb JOY jackhammer compressors would do the trick...
19:57 <efc> ....
19:57 <efc> Unfortunately this technology tends to get the operator wetter than the target
19:57 <xcamel> remember the vid of the terrorist who dropped the mortar round in the tube backwards....
19:59 <xcamel> there are some seriously funny potato gun vids on youtube
20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> after the presentation today, I'm tired - off to bed
20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> laterz
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20:08 <xcamel> laterz..
20:12 <xcamel> Stop eating foods containing US-made peanut butter, six dead
20:12 <Romulus> Title: Stop eating foods containing peanut butter, FDA says - KSBY-TV- msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)
20:12 <jasong> Hey, what are you supposed to do if you're using yum to update and it just stalls in the middle?
20:13 <jasong> Fedora 8, brand new install
20:13 <jasong> It's either installing something called shadow-utils or just got finished with it before it stalled
20:14 <jasong> A stalled install
20:14 <xcamel> give it a couple minutes?
20:14 <MTughan> GUI or CLI yum?
20:14 <jasong> On the first day we've become an Obama nation
20:14 * jasong likes puns
20:14 <jasong> client yum
20:15 <MTughan> No, graphical updater or on the command line?
20:15 <MTughan> CLI -> command line interface
20:15 <jasong> ahhh
20:15 <jasong> okay
20:15 <xcamel> just kill it and start again
20:15 <jasong> yes, command line
20:15 <jasong> okay
20:15 <MTughan> You may not be able to start it again without restarting.
20:15 <xcamel> should be no harm
20:16 <MTughan> yum creates a lockfile while running to prevent two instances from accessing package information or installing at the same time.
20:16 <MTughan> If it's killed, the lockfile remains (I don't know where it is).
20:17 <xcamel> >> /var/lock
20:18 <jasong> Yeah, with my impulsiveness it would probably be better to just restart
20:18 <MTughan> Not there on Fedora 8. Did a comparison between before booting package manager and after. No change.
20:18 <MTughan> Oh wait, those are folders... One sec.
20:20 <MTughan> Yeah, no difference.
20:21 <xcamel> yum verifies clean dl before starting the installs
20:22 <jasong> Yaaaay!!! M Wired magazine came today
20:22 <jasong> My favorite magazine by far
20:22 <MTughan> /var/run/yum.pid
20:22 <xcamel> wired has gotten to be a far leftist tool rag
20:23 <MTughan> That's the file it checks from what I can tell.
20:23 <xcamel> yup, that's the one, Mike
20:23 <xcamel> rm -f /var/run/yum.pid
20:23 <jasong> I didn't say I agreed to them, I just like to read them. But, yeah, when they give advice, it's best to accept it as what NOT to do
20:24 <xcamel> read scientific american
20:24 <MTughan> Yep, file contents changed with different instances. Although the file's not removed by the GUI. Dunno about yum.
20:24 <efc> show on renewable energy in california on PBS. As usual they ignore solar water heaters.
20:26 <xcamel> tape working better with the correct firmware now...
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20:37 <xcamel> "Microsoft Silverlight Selected by Presidential Inaugural Committee ..." (another reason to stick with VLC)
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22:43 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news January 20, 2009
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23:49 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
23:49 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 65.1°F / 18.4°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 51 to 61. Light winds.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly cloudy. Highs 69 to 74 in the western valleys to 73 to 78 near the foothills. Light winds.; Wednesday Night (1 more message)
23:49 <Soul_keeper> &more
23:49 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: - Slight chance of rain in the evening...then rain likely overnight. Lows 51 to 61. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 60 percent.;
23:49 <Soul_keeper> i want rain