IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-01-20

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00:50 <efc> moo

00:52 <Tidus> oom

00:52 <XioNYC> omo

01:07 * efc finishes off his Gouda stash

01:07 <MTughan> You're a cheese nut?

01:08 <Tidus> <3 the 'real mode' linux consoles... not really

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01:10 <jasong> I'm not meaning to get into political stuff, but I suspect that when the president elect gets sworn into office, he'll be signing hundreds of documents that night to change policies.  What's the best website to get the lowdown afterward?

01:11 <efc> Just trying Gouda. Usually I eat havarti.

01:12 <MTughan> Ah, havarti is good. Never had gouda.

01:12 <efc> Its like a sharper version of Havarti, best I can tell

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01:28 <Tidus> one of my favorite cheeses is still tillamook sharp

01:29 <efc> I need a good assortment..

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01:38 <XioNYC> jasong: I doubt it - there whole day is going to be "lost" in the inauguration and celebration events.  The best source for that kind of info will be

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01:46 <jasong> okay, thanks

01:55 <zombie67> quiet tonight

02:01 <jasong> Yeah, too quiet

02:02 * jasong doesn't see the axe -wielding dude behind him

02:02 <jasong> AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

02:02 * XioNYC swings the axe

02:03 <XioNYC> Damn darn frickin' Windoze!

02:35 <Tidus> lol?

02:35 <Romulus> hmm... lol is it the size of those pills i've been taking for this cold, Tidus

02:36 <Tidus> forget lol

02:36 <Romulus> 10-4.

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03:17 <Soul_keeper> lol they are going to put tax refunds on prepaid credit cards now, we are in trouble

03:18 <efc> Ugh

03:19 <Soul_keeper> HR block is doing that now

03:19 <efc> Why not just lower taxes, instead of taking it and then refunding?

03:19 <Soul_keeper> so you walk out with a credit card ready to blow

03:19 <efc> Oh, I see

03:19 <Soul_keeper> because the liberals want your money

03:20 <Soul_keeper> it's "for your own good" apparently

03:20 <XioNYC> And everyone else's, too.

03:20 <Soul_keeper> they need more laws and regulations to protect us from ourselves, which cost us more money

03:20 <Soul_keeper> and more is never enough

03:21 <Soul_keeper> half the new jobs that obama is supposedly going to create will be government jobs

03:21 <Soul_keeper> that's the impression i'm getting

03:21 <Soul_keeper> more lawyers, regulators, tax collectors, etc.

03:22 <efc> Enjoy. Bed.

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03:22 <Soul_keeper> and his "public security force" which will be larger than the military

03:22 <Soul_keeper> they'll be peeking in your windows and stuff ....

03:23 <XioNYC> Good!

03:23 <XioNYC> They'll be able to keep an eye on my rig and make sure my machines are all crunching while I'm otherwise engaged!

03:25 <Soul_keeper>

03:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Obama Civilian Security (at

03:25 <Soul_keeper>   even better

03:25 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Senator Obama's "Civilian National Security Force" (at

03:26 <XioNYC> Sounds like the return of Ghouliani's NYPD Street Crimes unit (but without Amadou Diallo or Abner Louima incidents).

03:27 <XioNYC> Either way, I'm not gonna get wound up about what _could_ happen.  I'm more interested in what *is* happening.

03:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah hopefully he'll run out of money before it gets to soldiers with assault rifles on every street ...

03:32 <XioNYC> ...or we could just ask all the gangs to hand over their guns to The Man whilst holding hands and gleefully singing "Kumbaya".

03:32 <Soul_keeper> people forget that the nazi's were a socialist party ...

03:33 <XioNYC> They were also fascist.  Americans made for lousy fascists:

03:33 <XioNYC> Gov't: "Work!"

03:33 <XioNYC> Person: "What's in it for me?"

03:33 <XioNYC> See?

03:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah spooky stuff

03:34 <XioNYC> "make" for lousy fascists - not "made".

03:34 <XioNYC> Them fingers is got minds of them's own :-P

03:35 <Soul_keeper> can only wait and see i guess, keep our guns loaded :)

03:35 <Soul_keeper> anyways gn

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04:02 <clusty> damn, ppl are starting to gang up here :D

04:02 <clusty> was quite deserted last time :D

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04:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 17.2F / -8.2C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy with isolated snow showers. Highs in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 10 to 15. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west (1 more message)

04:59 <CoderForLife> &more

04:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: after midnight.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Highs around 30. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;

05:04 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:08 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

05:08 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 35°F / 2°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 14km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:33 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 F.; Chance of Snow. High:33 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:21 F.; Chance of Snow. High:33 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 F.;

05:12 <CoderForLife> bwb

05:14 <CoderForLife> morning ELGono

05:15 <ELGono> moo don

05:15 <ELGono> rumors in ilmenau

05:16 <CoderForLife> what rumors

05:16 <ELGono> at weekend police arrested a drunk man (punk scene) wich was found dead in prison cell next morning

05:17 <ELGono> yesterday 40 punks seized the police station

05:17 <CoderForLife> oh my

05:17 <ELGono> just heard a lot of police driving around few mins ago

05:18 <CoderForLife> no doubt

05:18 <ELGono> just waiting for the heli and some burning cars hehehe

05:19 <CoderForLife> hope it doesn't come to that

05:20 <CoderForLife> apparent cause of death for the one in jail?

05:21 <ELGono> nothing for sure before autopsy

05:22 <ELGono> but most likely alcohol

05:23 <CoderForLife> that's what I was thinking

05:23 <ELGono> police is under pressure cause they should have asked a doctor first to check whether the person is able to be improsned

05:23 <ELGono> germans have a law for everything ;)

05:25 <CoderForLife> you have doctors at every police station 24 hours a day?

05:27 <ELGono> but but the doc was there when they took him

05:30 <CoderForLife> did anyone check the condition of the doctor?

05:33 <ELGono> hehe good question

05:46 <CoderForLife> need to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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06:00 <jrodger> evening, I have the BOINC manager running but it doesn't seem to connect to projects I have joined to, can someone spend some time and help me?

06:07 <jrodger> 07gj

06:07 <jrodger> sorry, cleaning keyboard....

06:17 <jrodger> hello?

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06:25 <hawmps> 'lo

06:26 <jrodger> hello? can you help me connect my BOINC-manager?

06:28 <desti> you need to attach to the projects

06:39 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:39 <jrodger> how do I attach the projects, I cannot even connect to a server......

06:40 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

06:40 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 24F / -4C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the lower 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 19. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; (1 more message)

06:41 <XioNYC> &more

06:41 <Romulus> XioNYC: Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Queens County in effect until 10:00 AM EST on January 20, 2009;

06:41 <CoderForLife> In BOINC Manager, select Tools / Attach to Project

06:42 <jrodger> But there are no Projects there..... to attach to

06:43 <CoderForLife> um - that's a problem

06:43 <CoderForLife> what version /platform you running?

06:43 <jrodger> F10

06:44 <CoderForLife> what version of Boinc Mgr?

06:45 <jrodger> 6.4.4

06:46 <CoderForLife> you should see project selections, I believe

06:46 <CoderForLife> I have to leave for w@@% - with the info you've posted perhaps others can help

06:46 <CoderForLife> good luck

06:46 <jrodger> Do I need connect to a computer first?

06:47 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - laterz

06:51 <jrodger> ciao

06:57 <jrodger> can anyone help me connect my BOINC Manager?

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07:06 <jrodger> fixed it, but I had to log onto BOINC as root, is this right?

07:17 * XioNYC last used BOINC on Linux from a command line (and that was years ago)

07:18 <XioNYC> Sorry I can't be of more help.

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09:29 <hawmps>

09:29 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 January 20 - Bonestell Panorama from Mars (at

09:33 <CoderForLife> very nice - I am fascinated by Mars, and the possibilities

09:36 <CoderForLife> blame it on Bradbury

09:37 <CoderForLife> back to w@#%ing for The Man

09:40 <hawmps> heh

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09:42 <PovAdct_w> he's multiplying!

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09:42 <PovAdct_w> or not

09:42 <MTughan_> Sorry, I closed my laptop without disconnecting before. :)

09:43 * PovAdct_w goes back to some Java Code

09:43 <MTughan_> Heh, I'm doing C.

09:44 <PovAdct_w> I don't get to choose

09:44 * CoderForLife is doing is rules engine Coding on top of his PHP-based expert system

09:45 * hawmps is fighting off 'global dumbing'

09:46 <CoderForLife> good luck - it's pervasive and highly communicative

09:46 <CoderForLife> the initial symptoms of infection is a tingling up your leg

09:49 <PovAdct_w> <- ugly UI

09:49 <Romulus> Title: jmeter.png (at

09:51 <PovAdct_w> apart from the fact that I hate Swing and its default look... the text fields should be aligned

09:52 <MTughan_> WTH? "BFD 2.15.91 20040904 internal error, aborting at ../../src/bfd/cache.c line 495 in bfd_cache_lookup_worker"

09:52 <MTughan_> Working with Dev-C++ to compile a C program, that came up in linking...

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09:53 <PovAdct_w> yep libbfd is a part of the linker

09:53 <MTughan> Hmm, recompile and it's gone.

09:55 <DerMeister> Seriously, no one should use Dev-C++

09:56 <MTughan> What would you recommened?

09:56 <DerMeister> Anything else :P

09:57 <DerMeister> Code::Blocks would be a good start. Or Visual Studio (Express)

09:57 <MTughan> Hmm, never heard of Code::Blocks...

09:57 <DerMeister> Or just a good editor if you don't want to do big things

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09:57 <PovAdct_w> Dev-C++ is the fastest way to get a MinGW environment up and running on Windows...

09:57 <MTughan> It's not the best IDE around, but it works.

09:58 <DerMeister> Well, I would rather say it's crap. Unmaintained crap if I remember correctly.

09:58 <PovAdct_w> there's something called wxDev-C++...

09:59 <PovAdct_w> Dev-C++ is unmaintained crap written in Delphi, wxDev-C++ is cross-platform (using wxWidgets) and latest news was in 12 January 2009

10:00 <PovAdct_w> oh wait, looks like it's not actually an IDE <.<

10:00 <PovAdct_w> it's just a wxWidgets designer for Dev-C++

10:00 <PovAdct_w> or something

10:03 <MTughan> How do you pass arrays in C? I have a function "double function(double x[], int n)", calling it like "function(x, 5)", where x is an array of 5 doubles, results in "[Warning] passing arg 1 of `function' from incompatible pointer type"

10:04 <MTughan> (It's not actually called function, I put that in there)

10:04 <PovAdct_w> what's x?

10:04 <Romulus> x is evil :), PovAdct_w

10:04 <PovAdct_w> ...

10:04 <PovAdct_w> forget x

10:04 <Romulus> Got it!

10:04 <PovAdct_w> you better get it

10:04 <MTughan> I said, x is an array of 5 doubles.

10:04 <PovAdct_w> double x[5]; f(x, 5); fails?

10:04 <MTughan> Gah, I defined it as int....

10:04 <PovAdct_w> :)

10:05 <MTughan> We're good. :)

10:22 <Soul_keeper> 13K parade participants, but over 20K security personell ...

10:22 <PovAdct_w> o_o

10:22 <Soul_keeper> 167 million dollars for this inauguration

10:25 <MTughan> bbiab

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10:44 <Soul_keeper> one of obama's white mothers has arrived at the inauguration :)

10:46 <up365> Soul_keeper, you POS his white mother and grandmother are both dead you asshole

10:47 <PovAdct_w> POS?

10:47 <Soul_keeper> nah he's got a few mothers and grandmothers, they aren't dead

10:47 <Soul_keeper> PovAdct_w, he's cussing at me

10:48 <up365> So

10:48 <Soul_keeper> up365, and ?

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10:56 <Soul_keeper> PovAdct_w, i insulted his messiah :)

11:01 <PovAdct_w> Soul_keeper:

11:01 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #118721 (at

11:05 <Soul_keeper> lol

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12:43 <Tank_Master> so has the wold ended yet?

12:43 <Tank_Master> is it time to vote for a new president yet?

12:43 <Tank_Master> :P

12:44 <MTughan> I don't know, today feels like the sh*ttiest day of all.

12:44 <PovAdct_w> why?

12:44 <MTughan> Blew my PSU yesterday, I have nothing to test it work, and Linux isn't cooperating with my laptop.

12:44 <Tank_Master> them upgrade to win7

12:45 <MTughan> I have Win7 on there, I just use Fedora for BOINC crunching.

12:45 <MTughan> Just marked it as NNW, going to move it over to Win7 soon enough.

12:45 <MTughan> Also, I have class soon, and I'm tired.

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12:52 <Tank_Master> bummer

12:57 <MTughan> All right, see you all later.

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13:23 * CoderForLife sighs

13:26 * CoderForLife suspends all other BOINC crunching in favor of LHC

13:27 * CoderForLife wanders off to other w@#% tasks

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13:30 <hawmps> more lhc work?

13:33 <CoderForLife> yes

13:33 <hawmps> ah.. got some

13:33 <DerMeister> 53k ready to send

13:34 <PovAdct_w> !

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13:43 <PovAdct_w> long ones

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14:11 <hawmps> still no osx app for lhc?

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14:32 <walkie> what does it mean: SETI@home is not available for your type of computer?

14:34 <hawmps> what type do you have?

14:37 <walkie> 2x4core xeon

14:38 <walkie> it was working but in about 00.00 gmt this night i got this message

14:39 <hawmps> what OS?

14:39 <walkie> linux rhel

14:39 <hawmps> 64 bit?

14:41 <walkie> yes

14:42 <hawmps> x desktop or no?

14:42 <walkie> yes

14:42 <hawmps> boinc version?

14:43 <walkie> 6.4.5

14:44 <hawmps> >>

14:44 <Romulus> <> (at

14:44 <hawmps> btw - seti down for maint at the moment...

14:45 <walkie> the message was 23.30 GMT previous day

14:46 <hawmps> not quite sure what is going on there then.. was running before?

14:46 <walkie> yes and was running good

14:46 <hawmps> or it might have said "no work for your platform" which might make sense.

14:47 <hawmps> and happens now and then..

14:47 <walkie> there is still some jobs continuing calculating

14:48 <walkie> SETI@home is not available for your type of computer - the exact phrase it tells me,  the same for astropulse

14:49 <hawmps> I think the message is incorrect.

14:49 <walkie> well, will wait for maintenance finish

14:50 <walkie> the thing what makes me worry - there is no phrase Request for xxx sec of job after the alert

14:52 <hawmps> any other projects running?

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14:53 <walkie> no

14:54 <hawmps> hmmm..

14:55 <walkie> well, it request for work after pressing update, but maintenance time

14:55 <walkie> communication was deffered for 16 hours

14:56 <walkie> it looks like it deffer for 30 hours after alert

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15:02 <hawmps> try hitting "do network communications"

15:07 <PovAddict> walkie: it's a SETI problem, I saw it on the mailing lists

15:07 <PovAddict> there is a server mess with normal seti app + astropulse + gpus

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15:13 <Soul_keeper> what a pain, people that design riding lawnmowers are idiots

15:14 <Soul_keeper> they get in their mind that all americans are lazy fat bastards that want a battery, complete safety, lights, failsafes, etc.   so they install all this stupid electrical junk    and guess what fails first ...

15:14 <Soul_keeper> can't just put a pull cord on them, and can't install an alternator to charge the battery

15:14 <Soul_keeper> so i get a dead battery every other time i try to start it, and something decides it wants to fry but it can't be located

15:15 <walkie> thanks, will hope it will work after maintenance time, got to go now

15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o xcamel

15:15 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna hafta rip the entire electrical system out of the mower and redo it the right way

15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o CoderForLife

15:15 *** hawmps sets mode: -o hawmps

15:16 <wdsmia_w> lawnmower? try snowblower

15:16 <hawmps> WARNING: Do not remove mower electrical system while running.

15:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah i just don't get these so called engineers, they keep trying to reinvent the wheel

15:16 <Soul_keeper> pull cords worked perfectly

15:17 <hawmps> so did grabbing the prop on the front of a plane to start it...

15:17 <Soul_keeper> so they remove the tried and true system and replace it with something "new" just because it is "new" and they like "change"

15:17 <hawmps> except when it didn't.

15:17 <Soul_keeper> it's all about being lazy

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16:15 <Tidus> yay, i gots a job

16:15 <Tidus> one that gives me more than 10 hrs a week anyways XD

16:17 <FreeLarry58> good going

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17:32 <CoderForLife> congrats Tidus

17:32 <xcamel> re-hi

17:32 <CoderForLife> ditto

17:33 <CoderForLife> what a depressing day

17:33 <Tidus> oh?

17:33 <Tidus> and ty CFL... why depressing?

17:33 <CoderForLife> I wanted to go out and commit some kind of heinous crime after that speech

17:33 <Tidus> lol

17:34 <PovAddict> TV won't talk about anything else

17:34 <xcamel> Right up there with the guy at the brake shop telling you why you need new rotors

17:35 <Tidus> did anybody else catch that biden was president for 5 minutes or so?

17:35 <CoderForLife> he came very close to "spread the wealth around"

17:35 <xcamel> Ben Stein could have done a better job..

17:35 <CoderForLife> he's smarter than you, you know

17:36 <PovAddict> I guess this channel will be as mono-topic as TV

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17:36 <Tidus> bush's term ended at noon EST, but obama hadn't been sworn in at that time...

17:37 <xcamel> I believe we were without a president for about 6 minutes.

17:37 <CoderForLife> so Nancy was Prez-for-a-moment

17:37 <xcamel> AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (kill me)

17:37 <CoderForLife> lol

17:37 * Tidus kills xcamel.

17:37 <xcamel> thank you

17:37 <CoderForLife> Bush - no, Cheney - no, then Nancy

17:38 <Tidus> ah ok

17:38 <CoderForLife> order of succession

17:38 <Tidus> but, i believe the new VP had been sworn in, just not the new P

17:38 <CoderForLife> all legalisms

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17:39 <CoderForLife> Obama's been pulling the strings since the election

17:39 <Tidus> all just -isms period

17:39 <xcamel> too bad a nice socialist country like Argentina is getting a taste of "barak-a-mania"

17:40 <CoderForLife> stock market weighed in today

17:40 <xcamel> below 8000

17:40 <CoderForLife> just lovely

17:40 <xcamel> nice 40.1K there...

17:41 <CoderForLife> 401(k)?

17:41 <xcamel> no, forty point one k now

17:42 * CoderForLife must be dense

17:42 * Tidus tests CoderForLife's density ...

17:42 <Tidus> broke the stick, didn't go in... i'd say dense enough :P

17:42 <CoderForLife> my density is 40.1K

17:43 <CoderForLife> not 40.1 Kelvin

17:44 <CoderForLife> mortgage rates ticked upwards at USBank

17:44 <xcamel> still sub-5

17:44 <xcamel> ?

17:45 <xcamel> Bank of America: How to Lose $20 Billion of Value in 2 Trading Days

17:45 <CoderForLife> let's see

17:45 <CoderForLife> lol

17:45 <CoderForLife> man, you can't even flush it that fast

17:45 <xcamel>

17:45 <Romulus> <> (at

17:46 <CoderForLife> rate depends on points, etc of course

17:47 <xcamel> Dollar skyrockets on U.K. bank woes

17:47 <CoderForLife> yeah

17:47 <xcamel> (CNN Money)

17:47 <Tidus> i dont even think i could spend 20 billion in 2 days

17:47 <Tidus> much less lose it

17:47 <CoderForLife> USBank 30 year fixed - no points: APR: 5.443%

17:48 <xcamel> It's really easy to do - inflate the hell out of something, then declare it worthless.

17:48 <CoderForLife> A guy I went to lunch with is following these closely

17:48 <CoderForLife> we choked down Skyline while watching the TV at noon

17:48 <CoderForLife> I cried in my Coke

17:50 <xcamel> simple enough.. stay off their radar.

17:51 <xcamel> oil 38.72 +2.23

17:51 <CoderForLife> tomorrow morning is the first real presidential security briefing

17:51 <Tidus> if oil's back down to 40 a barrel, why is gas still hovering around the two dollar mark?

17:52 <CoderForLife> "Welcome to the Real World, Neo"

17:53 <xcamel> unleaded @ NYC is 1.141 wholesale

17:54 <Tidus> unleaded here is 1.729 at the pump

17:54 <xcamel> it's all taxes, and about 8 cents profit.

17:55 <xcamel> we're nearly 1.90 again

17:56 <Tidus> better than 3.90 a few months ago...

17:56 <xcamel> well well.. seems George Soros is claiming that he has finally killed the british pound

18:01 <xcamel> big cuts today all across ClearChannel...

18:01 <CoderForLife> the beginning of the end

18:02 <xcamel> and about that Aretha Franklin 'tune'.... yeeeeeeyuck!

18:02 <Tidus> yeah, her false teeth were killin her

18:03 <CoderForLife> heh

18:03 <xcamel> must be... I used to like the old broad...

18:03 <xcamel> not so much now...

18:03 <CoderForLife> signed sealed

18:05 <CoderForLife> I still have marching band in my blood

18:06 <CoderForLife> streaming Internet video needs QoS

18:06 <Tidus> lol

18:06 <xcamel> The only high point might have been Itzak and Yoyo

18:07 <CoderForLife> does IPv6 give QoS?

18:09 <xcamel> I think the same crowd was there in Caracas when Chavez took over, eh?

18:10 <CoderForLife> lol

18:10 <xcamel> I know Jimmuh was...

18:10 <CoderForLife> well true

18:11 <xcamel> what they have now...

18:11 <xcamel>

18:11 <Romulus> <> (at

18:12 <CoderForLife> the Chavez float

18:14 <CoderForLife> downstairs to the laptop

18:14 <CoderForLife> more entertaining and colorful commentary from there

18:15 <Tidus> lol

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18:27 <xcamel> re-poof

18:27 * FreeLarry58 humm on road in basement?

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18:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> ROFLMAO

18:27 <Tidus> lol?

18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> the parade

18:28 <FreeLarry58> lappy what you use mostly

18:28 <xcamel> not going there..

18:28 <FreeLarry58> ohh still watching inauguation?

18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> the drum major/ette

18:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's on FL - no volume

18:30 <CoderOnTheCouch> brb   time to feed the birds (in the dark)

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18:32 <FreeLarry58> found a new use for drywall plastic screw anchors today - auto repair for missing screws

18:32 <Tidus> nice

18:33 <FreeLarry58> plastic bumper to inner wheelwell lost screw and needed to be shimmed - worked better than i thought it would

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18:35 * FreeLarry58 wonders why boinc 6.4.5 keeps losing projects when vista unexpectidly shuts down

18:35 <Tidus> it's vista.

18:35 <FreeLarry58> had to reattach to einstien once and lhc once

18:35 <FreeLarry58> some vista some hardware i think

18:35 <FreeLarry58> vista being to picky on timing

18:35 <Tidus> take everything you're blaming on the hardware, shift the blame to vista :P

18:36 <xcamel> seriously MSLSD now...

18:36 <xcamel> the leg-tingle channel...

18:36 <Tidus> mslsd ?

18:36 <FreeLarry58> i do and vista tech reports of crash trying to say hardware but not what - M$ on LSD?

18:37 * FreeLarry58 flashback

18:37 <FreeLarry58> ooooo look at the pretty colors.....

18:37 <Tidus> just dont claim the tv's trying to eat you...

18:37 <FreeLarry58> lol and keep away from the windows

18:38 <MTughan> lol, MSLSD.

18:38 <FreeLarry58> thier staring at you

18:38 <Tidus> seeing sound is ok

18:38 <Tidus> but believing the tv is about to eat your face... not so much

18:39 <FreeLarry58> good trips and bad trips -- really cant say have experience with either

18:39 <Tidus> just say no to drugs, because trust us, if your drugs are talking to you, you've already had too much...

18:39 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah i know - have lost a lot of childhood friends to them

18:40 <FreeLarry58> but sometimes after living 30 more years than them - i wonder if they weren't the lucky ones

18:41 * FreeLarry58 slaps face and says stop being so morbid

18:42 <Tidus> O.o

18:42 <FreeLarry58> after all look at what they have missed - including the advent of household computers

18:44 <FreeLarry58> vietnam ending- berlin wall coming down - conflicts that have started and stalled (can't say ended)

18:44 <Tidus> yeah...

18:45 <CoderOnTheCouch> back

18:45 <Tidus> wb

18:45 <xcamel> a government powerful enough to give you everything you want is more than powerful enough to take everything away from you.

18:46 <FreeLarry58> and now they are

18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> got the bird feeders filled - had to move the 8 point buck out of the way

18:46 <FreeLarry58> humm 8 pt buck makes a lot of steak and sausage

18:46 <Tidus> and jerky

18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> I keep them fed in case of hard times

18:46 <xcamel> knock him clean out, or just a gentle nudge..

18:47 * FreeLarry58 drooling

18:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> grabbed him by the antlers and flung him into the woods

18:47 <FreeLarry58> ahh what a waste

18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> saving him for a rainy day

18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> or year 3 of the new administration

18:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> need to buy a new freezer first

18:50 <CoderOnTheCouch> there's about 6 to 8 deer that lurk in the woods behind and around the house

18:51 <CoderOnTheCouch> NASA and Lunar Electric Rover

18:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> wow - that's something else

18:53 * wdsmia likes the sleeper they stole off a kenworth on the back

18:54 <xcamel>

18:54 <Romulus> <> (at

18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - that's it

18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> I hadn't seen it before

18:55 <xcamel> goofy looking thing

18:55 <CoderOnTheCouch> um-hmm - a Kenworth sleeper caught crewing bubble gum

18:55 <xcamel> the lunar platform mover was "more cool"

18:57 <xcamel>

18:57 <Romulus> <> (at

18:57 <xcamel> 'lunar truck'

18:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> doesn't need more ground clearance?

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19:05 <MTughan> COTC: IIRC, it can raise and lower each wheel independently of all the others, so it can raise itself off the ground.

19:05 <xcamel> oops... a FUBAR

19:05 <MTughan> It needs to be low for astronauts to be able to get on it.

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19:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> they can hop higher on the moon =)

19:06 <xcamel> 'chariot'

19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> Ooo The Chariot - like on Lost In Space?

19:07 <MTughan> I didn't think Mars' gravity was that different than ours.

19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> aren;t these "lunar" not "ares" vehicles?

19:07 <Tidus> if it was jupiter i'd be a little concerned about height

19:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> I have a crushing feeling about that

19:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> my bank's stock lost 22% today

19:09 <MTughan> Hmm, I thought they were looking at Mars vehicles... It's possible that with the design, it can go to either.

19:14 <xcamel> btw.. the guy that played the robot on 'lost in space' passed away...

19:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> oh - who was that?

19:16 <CoderOnTheCouch> Danger, Will Robinson

19:18 <xcamel> name escapes me now

19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> Lost In Space TOS?

19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> or the movie?

19:18 <xcamel> series..

19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> ah

19:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> I watched it religiously

19:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> "Bob May"

19:19 <xcamel> Bob May

19:19 <xcamel> 'jinx'

19:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> Google is our friend

19:20 <Tank_Master> no its not

19:20 <xcamel> er not

19:20 <Tank_Master> lol

19:20 <xcamel> Google is our fiend

19:21 <Tank_Master> google is the befriender

19:21 <MTughan> Amazing what one letter can do...

19:21 <xcamel> finally.. correct firmware uploaded to tape drive

19:21 <Tank_Master> o.0? tape drive?

19:21 <xcamel>

19:21 <Romulus> <> (at

19:21 <Tank_Master> those still exist?

19:22 <xcamel> ait 3 sony 700v external

19:22 <xcamel> industrial grade backup

19:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> I demoed the enterprise change management prototype today - the opnion was "it looks like work"

19:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> duh...

19:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> wouldn't want to be caught doing that at w@#%

19:27 <xcamel> we're still wringing the bugs out of our "dot net" based system

19:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> thx for that confirmation

19:30 <Soul_keeper> 35 bucks and like 4hrs later, my lawn mower is rewired with all those pesky safety dissengage things disabled

19:30 <Soul_keeper> spend over 2hrs confused cause i hooked the gas hose up wrong

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19:32 <xcamel> hmm.. seems we really did have a "Prez NanPo" for 3:45 today, so BHO is #45 technically

19:32 <CoderOnTheCouch> as I thought

19:33 <xcamel> that would have made her face the "football"

19:33 <Tidus> so how long until people start calling him "President Hussein" ?

19:34 <xcamel> not long no

19:34 <xcamel> er now

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19:37 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:38 <efc> Hey

19:38 <xcamel> Hussein? nobody anymore...

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19:38 <efc> I found some 24" PVC for sale last night. I don't have a use for it. But its cool.

19:40 <xcamel> like I said... check the industrial recyclers

19:40 <efc> I have an interest in pipes in their own right

19:41 <xcamel> better chance closer to atlanta

19:43 <efc> I wish I had a hydro site large enough to need that 24" PVC ...

19:44 <xcamel> how about a giant pumpkin gun?

19:44 <Tank_Master> those are sweet

19:44 <Tidus> :D

19:46 <xcamel> I think pumkin mortars would be the next craze

19:46 <xcamel> ...go for altitude

19:46 <efc> I used 4" PVC for a 2-liter-bottle launching bazooka when I was younger

19:46 <efc> On a good shot, could get 100 yards

19:47 <xcamel> empty, I hope..

19:47 <efc> they would start out full and end up half or a third full

19:47 <xcamel> cripes...

19:48 <efc> Going straight up anyway, lots would blow out the bottom

19:48 <Tidus> lol

19:48 <efc> that was with 70 psi or so

19:49 <xcamel> nothing like an 800lb inertia shot

19:49 <Tidus> i once used a pvc air cannon to flood an old friend's room with shredded newspaper...

19:50 <Tidus> pump the chamber up to about 80psi, pack the 4 foot x 3.5" dia pipe plum full of shredded paper, let er go :)

19:50 <Tidus> sad part is... he was asleep when we did it...

19:50 <xcamel> the 2L bottles fire better butt end first and a cap on the neck - with a streamer

19:51 <Tidus> only response we got from him was "WHAT ... THE ... (you can guess this word)"

19:51 <efc> hehe

19:51 <efc> when i was doing this, 2 liter bottles were usually cylinders with rounded bottoms and another piece of plastic on the bottom that made them sit upright

19:51 <efc> better aerodynamically than the one-piece ones now

19:51 <xcamel> hmm... you just gave me an idea... for a soda bottle mortar

19:52 <Tidus> went in there next morning and found him cuddled up with a wad of the shredded paper...

19:52 <efc> shove a cut off garden hose and some leaves or grass down the neck, turn on water, run for cover..

19:52 <xcamel> when you drop the bottle in, it hits the air valve release

19:54 <efc> Getting a good seal was the trick.. you wanted one that would hold until max pressure built, and then release completely, quickly

19:56 <efc> With xcamel's PVC resources, he could rule the northeast..

19:56 <xcamel> thought about it, never did it...

19:56 <efc> I wanted to build a little stand for my cannon back then, but never did

19:56 <xcamel> one of those 2500lb JOY jackhammer compressors would do the trick...

19:57 <efc> ....

19:57 <efc> Unfortunately this technology tends to get the operator wetter than the target

19:57 <xcamel> remember the vid of the terrorist who dropped the mortar round in the tube backwards....

19:59 <xcamel> there are some seriously funny potato gun vids on youtube

20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> after the presentation today, I'm tired - off to bed

20:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> laterz

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20:08 <xcamel> laterz..

20:12 <xcamel> Stop eating foods containing US-made peanut butter, six dead

20:12 <xcamel>

20:12 <Romulus> Title: Stop eating foods containing peanut butter, FDA says - KSBY-TV- (at

20:12 <jasong> Hey, what are you supposed to do if you're using yum to update and it just stalls in the middle?

20:13 <jasong> Fedora 8, brand new install

20:13 <jasong> It's either installing something called shadow-utils or just got finished with it before it stalled

20:14 <jasong> A stalled install

20:14 <xcamel> give it a couple minutes?

20:14 <MTughan> GUI or CLI yum?

20:14 <jasong> On the first day we've become an Obama nation

20:14 * jasong likes puns

20:14 <jasong> client yum

20:15 <MTughan> No, graphical updater or on the command line?

20:15 <MTughan> CLI -> command line interface

20:15 <jasong> ahhh

20:15 <jasong> okay

20:15 <xcamel> just kill it and start again

20:15 <jasong> yes, command line

20:15 <jasong> okay

20:15 <MTughan> You may not be able to start it again without restarting.

20:15 <xcamel> should be no harm

20:16 <MTughan> yum creates a lockfile while running to prevent two instances from accessing package information or installing at the same time.

20:16 <MTughan> If it's killed, the lockfile remains (I don't know where it is).

20:17 <xcamel> >> /var/lock

20:18 <jasong> Yeah, with my impulsiveness it would probably be better to just restart

20:18 <MTughan> Not there on Fedora 8. Did a comparison between before booting package manager and after. No change.

20:18 <MTughan> Oh wait, those are folders... One sec.

20:20 <MTughan> Yeah, no difference.

20:21 <xcamel> yum verifies clean dl before starting the installs

20:22 <jasong> Yaaaay!!!   M Wired magazine came today

20:22 <jasong> My favorite magazine by far

20:22 <MTughan> /var/run/

20:22 <xcamel> wired has gotten to be a far leftist tool rag

20:23 <MTughan> That's the file it checks from what I can tell.

20:23 <xcamel> yup, that's the one, Mike

20:23 <xcamel> rm -f /var/run/

20:23 <jasong> I didn't say I agreed to them, I just like to read them.  But, yeah, when they give advice, it's best to accept it as what NOT to do

20:24 <xcamel> read scientific american

20:24 <MTughan> Yep, file contents changed with different instances. Although the file's not removed by the GUI. Dunno about yum.

20:24 <efc> show on renewable energy in california on PBS. As usual they ignore solar water heaters.

20:26 <xcamel> tape working better with the correct firmware now...

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20:37 <xcamel> "Microsoft Silverlight Selected by Presidential Inaugural Committee ..." (another reason to stick with VLC)

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22:43 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news January 20, 2009

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23:49 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

23:49 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 65.1F / 18.4C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 51 to 61. Light winds.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly cloudy. Highs 69 to 74 in the western valleys to 73 to 78 near the foothills. Light winds.; Wednesday Night (1 more message)

23:49 <Soul_keeper> &more

23:49 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: - Slight chance of rain in the evening...then rain likely overnight. Lows 51 to 61. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 60 percent.;

23:49 <Soul_keeper> i want rain

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