00:01 <Tidus> i want less cold.
00:12 <Soul_keeper> i need rain so i can mow the yard
00:13 <Soul_keeper> havn't mowed it in over a year now ...
00:13 <Soul_keeper> it's never cold here, just dry
00:16 <Soul_keeper> you do any gpu computing Tidus ?
00:20 <MTughan> I guess being the Grim Reaper has its benefits... xD
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01:02 <efc> &wx 31088
01:02 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 24°F / -4°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 20. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Light and variable winds.; Fire Weather Warning, Fire Weather Watch (1 more message)
01:02 <efc> &more
01:02 <Romulus> efc: for Houston County in effect until 6:00 PM EST on January 22, 2009;
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04:13 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 17.2°F / -8.2°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 30. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Warmer with highs in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
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04:45 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
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05:17 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%
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05:39 <clusty> hoy ppl
05:39 <clusty> long time no see
05:45 <CoderForLife> hi clusty
05:45 <xcamel> 'lo...by..
05:45 <CoderForLife> bye Jay
05:45 <CoderForLife> hi KathrynM
05:46 <clusty> so whats cooking lately?
05:46 <CoderForLife> w@#%ing for a living
05:46 <CoderForLife> how about you
05:47 <clusty> same i presume...
05:47 <CoderForLife> you make a living presuming? =)
05:47 <clusty> but my chain will be loosened quite a bit :D
05:48 <CoderForLife> heh
05:48 <clusty> no more 9-5 for me
05:48 <clusty> :D
05:48 <clusty> gonna work from home for the same guys
05:48 <clusty> on my own hours
05:48 <CoderForLife> cool
05:48 <CoderForLife> I work 4:00am to 9:00pm weekdays
05:48 <clusty> holly molly
05:49 <clusty> that is really rough
05:49 <clusty> the perks better be good...
05:49 <CoderForLife> then I really step it up on weekends
05:49 <clusty> so you are the live to work type of guy i guess
05:49 <clusty> :D
05:50 <CoderForLife> sometimes greatness is thrust upon us
05:50 <CoderForLife> I think that's Shakespeare after a fashion
05:50 <CoderForLife> well.... off to w@#%
05:51 <clusty> adioso
05:51 <CoderForLife> (surprise)
05:51 <CoderForLife> laterz
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05:55 <CoderForLife> "Be not afraid of greatness; some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them." William Shakespeare
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07:08 <hawmps> re-hi
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07:16 <yang> In climateprediction I am unable to select another profile for computer than default, I have created also work profile
07:24 <yang> found it
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10:34 <hawmps> hmm...
10:35 <hawmps> FYI: do not apply firmware updates to seagate > 300 GB drives... you **will** brick it.
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10:35 <jackygrahamez> hi
10:35 <hawmps> 'lo Jack
10:35 <jackygrahamez> hi hawmps
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10:42 <hawmps> you missed: FYI: do not apply firmware updates to seagate > 300 GB drives... you **will** brick it.
10:46 <DerMeister> Hm... just one of these drives has more space than *all* my harddrives together...
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10:59 <hawmps> imaging some IT dweeb doing that to a 10TB corporate array...
11:04 <jackygrahamez> I met Obama http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff358/jackygrahamez/011909_221612.jpg
11:05 <jackygrahamez> :-)
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11:26 <Tank_Master> lol jacky :P
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11:34 <PovAdct_w> photoshopped
11:34 <Tank_Master> duh
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12:50 <jackygrahamez> Close, actually a cardboard cut-out
13:03 <MTughan> All right, I found the broken fuse in the PSU...
13:04 <MTughan> I've got to go, but I'll leave this question: does F12AH./250V mean anything in terms of fuses?
13:05 <wdsmia_w> ROFL
13:12 <hawmps> 12amp/250volts (common fuse)
13:13 <hawmps> under a buck at Radio Shack
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13:26 <MTughan_> Hmm, lappie must've gone to sleep...
13:32 <PovAdct_w> did you see hawmps's answer?
13:33 <MTughan_> 12A/250V.
13:33 <PovAdct_w> "under a buck at Radio Shack"
13:33 <MTughan_> I can confirm it's that fuse that blew. I jumped it with a wire, worked.
13:33 <MTughan_> Yep.
13:33 <PovAdct_w> do you think you could replace it yourself?
13:34 <MTughan_> I'd have to unsolder it, but yes.
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14:07 <MTughan> All right, I've decided I
14:08 <MTughan> ..'m just gonna scrap this PSU now... putting in a wire, I was careless, and touched hot to ground with my pliers. Large spark, and I was a bit tingly afterwards.
14:08 <MTughan> It still works, but I've shocked this PSU twice, and almost myself the second time, and I figure I shouldn't be poking around in one for a while.
14:11 <MTughan> At least I know what happened though, and it is the power supply that died.
14:12 <hawmps> correction... you just killed it.
14:14 <MTughan> No, it still works. I tried it very carefully after the big spark, and it'll still power 12V.
14:15 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
14:15 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 32Â°F / 0Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 7:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:37 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F.; Clear. High:41 ° F.; Clear. Low:30 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:37 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 ° F.;
14:16 <MTughan> I figure after that one though, it was close enough to components and big enough that I'm not going to risk powering up my system with it.
14:17 <MTughan> New PSU, fully tested and warranted: $150. Fix old PSU, no warranty, possible fire hazard: <$1.
14:17 <MTughan> I'll take the safe route, thanks.
14:21 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm off to C/C++ class. And all in one piece.
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15:04 <hawmps> 220.127.116.11 << spork
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15:55 <xcamel> 'lo
15:58 <jackygrahamez> ciao
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16:08 <CoderForLife> hmm
16:08 <CoderForLife> what happened to me?
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16:09 <CoderForLife> 18.104.22.168 sporked - thx Jay
16:10 <xcamel> various hubs have been popping off today...
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16:12 <CoderForLife> ok thx
16:13 <xcamel> I really want to be able to use the "I'm Sorry" defense when forgetting to pay $50,000 in taxes...
16:13 <PovAddict> o.o
16:14 <CoderForLife> careful - you wouldn't want to set youself up to be Treasury Secretary
16:15 <PovAddict> heh
16:15 <CoderForLife> and all those pecky reminder notices that jam your mailbox...
16:15 <PovAddict> capacitor piracy?
16:15 <CoderForLife> er pesky =)
16:16 <CoderForLife> interesting Pov
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16:16 <CoderForLife> bbiab din-din
16:16 <xcamel> thanks, but too early yet.
16:17 <CoderForLife> early, but needed/wanted
16:17 <CoderForLife> plink adsl-70-228-38-150.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net
16:17 * CoderForLife walks away
16:19 <PovAddict> plink 22.214.171.124 & 126.96.36.199
16:20 <MTughan> This the effects of Downadup and a possible botnet with it?
16:21 <PovAddict> those two IPs were just trying to find vulnerable stuff on my webserver
16:21 <PovAddict> I doubt it's related to downadup
16:22 <xcamel> iptables takes good care of it.
16:32 <xcamel> I have a quickie bash script called spork for it
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16:36 <jasong> If this chat shows up on the Internet, I wonder how many people will type in "quickie bash" and be disappointed. ;)
16:36 <MTughan> lol
16:36 <xcamel> you be a sickie...
16:36 <jasong> Well, bash means party, so just a little :)
16:37 <PovAddict> from what I saw in my web server log, some people searched for "pov .avi" and were disappointed too
16:38 <PovAddict> (they found povray animations instead of point-of-view porn)
16:38 <xcamel> they're all jonesing for a porn@home project too..
16:38 <MTughan> rofl
16:38 <jasong> What's point-of-view porn?
16:39 <jasong> The person getting serviced holds the camera?
16:39 <xcamel> you-don-wanna-know
16:39 <jasong> My apologies to anyone offended, I won't get any worse
16:39 <CoderForLife> back
16:39 <CoderForLife> yummy
16:39 <PovAddict> sort of, jasong
16:40 <PovAddict> ask the internets
16:40 <CoderForLife> Ooo Povplinks
16:40 <MTughan> I wish we had access to Google's logs... How many people in the channel just Googled "pov porn". xD
16:41 <CoderForLife> more than googled povplinks
16:43 <MTughan> Heh, your talking isn't important then.
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16:46 <MTughan> lol... In the channel stats, it has " * Tank_Master slaps PovAddict with a lampfish" for an example in the "Big Numbers" section. The next example is " * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master".
16:47 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master to make his stats higher
16:47 * Tank_Master sends 501 lampfishes after PovAddict
16:48 <MTughan> Instead of WW3, it's BOINC War 1!
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16:48 <PovAddict> MTughan: uh no
16:48 <MTughan> Slapping each other back and forth... PovAddict's weapon is his text. Tank_Master has his lampfishes.
16:48 <xcamel> how do I loop this and then exit on target '0' ?
16:48 <MTughan> Okay, maybe not. It'd make for an interesting scene though.
16:48 <xcamel> printf "Enter the Ip address to be blocked? "
16:48 <xcamel> read TARGET
16:48 <xcamel> TARGET=$TARGET
16:48 <xcamel> iptables -I INPUT -s $TARGET -j DROP
16:48 * Tank_Master slaps MTughan with Ozzy Osbourne
16:49 <PovAddict> go look at seti forum and you'll see this is the 3453th war
16:49 <MTughan> Did you just pull that number from your a$$?
16:49 * Tank_Master sends 6349 lampfishes after MTughan
16:49 <PovAddict> yes
16:50 <xcamel> ...being ignored
16:50 <MTughan> Let me guess: DA has been the accused each time?
16:50 * Tank_Master burns xcamel's house down
16:50 <Tank_Master> better? :P
16:50 <MTughan> This is more like the #boinc I know and love... xD
16:51 <xcamel> it was a simple question...
16:51 * CoderForLife rolls his eyes
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16:52 <MTughan> lol
16:52 <CoderForLife> better?
16:52 <Romulus> Somebody said better is those where the image.jpg is a directory with a index.html spewing all kinds of nasty stuff your way :), CoderForLife
16:52 <xcamel> fire, huh...
16:52 <CoderForLife> forget better
16:52 <Romulus> Gotcha, CoderForLife.
16:52 <xcamel> he said the magic word...
16:52 <CoderForLife> lol
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16:53 <Tank_Master> wish I could forget things that easly
16:53 <CoderForLife> forget Tank_Master
16:53 <Romulus> Got it!
16:53 <xcamel> anyway, how do I loop that little script for input...
16:53 <Tank_Master> hehe
16:53 <CoderForLife> I'm not a shell Coder =)
16:53 <Tank_Master> forget so?
16:54 <Tank_Master> bloddy hell
16:54 <PovAddict> bah, that's a typical pattern that I wish *any* programming language supported
16:54 <PovAddict> ("loop with check in the middle")
16:54 <CoderForLife> take a stab, PovAddict
16:55 <Romulus> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
16:55 <PovAddict> ...damn
16:55 <PovAddict> I pastebinned my test instead :P
16:55 <Romulus> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
16:55 <Tank_Master> LOL pov
16:57 <CoderForLife> looks plausible
16:58 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master with one of Knuth's books
16:58 <CoderForLife> ouch
16:58 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_flow#Loop_with_test_in_the_middle
16:59 * Tank_Master slaps PovAddict with a SQL Server 2000 MSDN book
16:59 <CoderForLife> why would you want to harm a nice Knuth book?
17:00 <xcamel> that worked.. now add if target = 0 exit
17:00 <xcamel> ok.. that worked too. thanks.
17:00 <PovAddict> I already had that
17:00 <CoderForLife> I didn't know shell syntax
17:01 <xcamel> my attempt was pretty close. thanks.
17:02 <PovAddict> using 'test' may not be best though... I think it will break if you press enter without typing anything
17:02 <PovAddict> ah... if [[ $TARGET = 0 ]]; then break; fi;
17:05 <xcamel> that is ok too...
17:05 <xcamel> it's good enough
17:06 <PovAddict> I meant "break" as in "explode / give an error", not "break the loop" :)
17:06 <PovAddict> MTughan: RAM disk?!
17:06 <PovAddict> that speed must be insane
17:07 <MTughan> Says up to 6.4GB/s.
17:07 <MTughan> Although at current speeds, not much faster than SSDs. Probably a limitation of SATA.
17:07 <xcamel> now it works correctly
17:07 <CoderForLife> quail - southernvaleslug.org domain name has expired
17:08 <CoderForLife> quail - your blog is not accessible
17:12 <PovAddict> I think it would be great enough to have a huge chunk of RAM as disk write cache, on the disk itself, with a battery
17:13 <PovAddict> while on normal use, it would write super-fast to the RAM, then it can take its time to save to disk
17:13 <PovAddict> on a power outage, uses battery to finish writing all that is left in RAM
17:13 <MTughan> Ow... Graphics driver crash. Win7++
17:14 <MTughan> I'm pretty sure they've moved the graphics driver from kernel space to userspace, which explains why it can be updated/restarted without a restart.
17:15 <DerMeister> I doubt that they did that
17:15 <MTughan> What do you think they did?
17:15 <DerMeister> The performance costs would be quite big
17:16 <DerMeister> I would guess that have the ability to unload/reload the driver without rebooting. Installing and loading drivers without reboot already worked for winxp.
17:17 <MTughan> Maybe.
17:18 <DerMeister> I don't see a reason why the driver would need to be in user space in order to unload it. Sure, if it was in user space unloading it would be easier and probably less risky
17:18 <PovAddict> "The biggest change in the WDDM is that much of the graphics driver has been moved from kernel space to user space."
17:18 <PovAddict> Windows *Vista*
17:18 <DerMeister> Well, looks like I guessed wrong :)
17:18 <PovAddict> http://ati.amd.com/products/wp/atiwddmwhitepaperfinalv38.pdf <- page 8
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17:24 <zombie67> damn turkeys startles the heck out of me!
17:44 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 January 21 - A Lenticular Cloud Over New Zealand (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
17:45 <CoderForLife> very nice
17:45 <jasong> Question for the smart people, is there any fundamental difference between an upload and a download, other than the name?
17:45 <Hodapp> Um, yes.
17:46 <jasong> I'm reading an article in Wired where the Comcast dude is complaining that 2/3rds of his network's upload bandwidth is being used by p2pers
17:46 <Hodapp> Download is a transfer from remote to local. Upload is a transfer from local to remote.
17:46 <jasong> lol, good point, but I mean is there a fundamental difference that would be important to a computer
17:46 <CoderForLife> In an asymmetric communications situation, like ADSL, it makes a big difference
17:47 <xcamel> I was going to say something, but I won't
17:47 <Hodapp> You just did.
17:47 <jasong> Say it xcamel, because I'm confused as to why they can't just reassign bandwidth
17:47 <CoderForLife> he would have said more... =)
17:48 <jasong> To me, and I admit I don't know much about it, he just wants to keep his gobs of money instead of fixing the problem with the network
17:49 <jasong> Am I wrong, partly right, or...?
17:49 <xcamel> the premise they are trying to make is false on it's face
17:50 <MTughan> They want people to pay more money for more upload speed too. :)
17:50 <xcamel> the vast majority of internet traffic in order is, spam, corporate data, government data, then everything else is way below that.
17:53 <CoderForLife> bb from the laptop
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18:03 <xcamel> oh great...
18:03 <CoderOnTheCouch> time to feed the birdies - brb
18:04 <zombie67> cfl, are you on facebook?
18:04 <xcamel> Heartland data services breached recently.. 7 million cc files possible...
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18:11 <PovAddict> heh
18:11 <PovAddict> "Woo! I just found a Sun server that costs more than my house! :-D"
18:11 <xcamel> correction: Possibly 100M Accounts Stolen
18:12 <PovAddict> ¤cy convert 3 gbp usd
18:12 <Romulus> PovAddict: 3.00 gbp = 4.19 usd
18:12 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - a big topic of discussion today xcamel
18:13 <xcamel> that's a bad one - done from the inside
18:14 <Romulus> Title: Heartland Payment Systems (at www.2008breach.com)
18:15 <CoderOnTheCouch> it went undetected
18:18 <PovAddict> site down
18:20 <CoderOnTheCouch> I was just readin it
18:21 <CoderOnTheCouch> works for me
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18:38 <rodolfo> hello there
18:39 <rodolfo> could anyone help me?
18:40 <xcamel> with what?
18:42 <rodolfo> xcamel: skype call test doesn't work for me
18:42 <rodolfo> xcamel: i'd like test with another person
18:42 * PovAddict thinks that's kinda offtopic
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18:50 <xcamel> my skype is off now..
18:59 <efc> moo
19:01 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
19:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> moo
19:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> back on the couch
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19:53 <xcamel> gtrrrrr
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19:56 <MTughan> It wasn't me!
19:56 <xcamel> you broke it!
19:58 <wdsmia> it was that 50A 250V fuse he stuck in there
19:58 <MTughan> Uh... I didn't stick any fuse in.
19:59 <MTughan> And I haven't touched it for 2-3 hours now.
19:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> &ping
19:59 <Romulus> pong
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19:59 <MTughan> Closed it up, and the next place it's going to be taken is the garbage.
19:59 <MTughan> 'lo COTC
19:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> heya Michael
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20:04 <MTughan> See, it wasn't me! It was one of their sponsors!
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20:11 <xcamel> lol PoV: Argentine prez: Fidel Castro `believes in Obama'
20:11 <xcamel> neat trick channeling a dead guy...
20:11 <PovAddict> huh, I thought I had disabled the politics filter
20:12 <PovAddict> I guess Konversation only saves settings on a clean quit, and last time it quit it was for an X crash
20:13 <zombie67> pov, did you get my email?
20:13 <PovAddict> yes, wtf? :)
20:14 <zombie67> big-ass turkeys, eh?
20:14 <zombie67> I have a herd of them living in my back yard, about 30 strong
20:14 <xcamel> I have 5 pet toms..
20:15 <zombie67> xcamel, are you on facebook?
20:15 * CoderOnTheCouch chuckles
20:16 <PovAddict> now that you mention it...
20:16 <xcamel> nope
20:16 <xcamel> sit-on-my-face-book?
20:16 <zombie67> is there a place like pastebin for pictures?
20:17 <CoderOnTheCouch> that was a popular expression when I was in high school
20:17 <PovAddict> zombie67: imagebin.ca
20:17 <MTughan> zombie67: Imagebin. Don't know the URL off by heart.
20:17 <MTughan> Yeah, that. :P
20:18 <PovAddict> or imagebin.org
20:18 <zombie67> kay, just a sec
20:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> I'm going up to bed
20:18 <CoderOnTheCouch> gn folks
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20:20 <PovAddict> zombie67: http://web.archive.org/web/20070703174012/http://orlyowl.com/gobble.jpg
20:21 <MTughan> Gah, my graphics card keeps crashing...
20:22 <zombie67> wtf kind of dr moro crap is that??
20:23 <xcamel> hmm... not opening
20:23 <xcamel> was that a pic on the net?
20:23 <xcamel> it looks like a great grey owl
20:24 <PovAddict> yes it was :P
20:24 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at imagebin.org)
20:24 <PovAddict> orlyowl.com seems to be dead, I had to dig archive.org
20:24 <xcamel> I have the only pair in NY on my property...
20:24 <xcamel> You have no idea how big those birds are.
20:25 <xcamel> the mail is nearly a meter tall
20:25 <xcamel> er male, even.
20:25 <xcamel> [duh]
20:27 <efc> an owl? Holy Who
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20:29 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at imagebin.org)
20:29 <xcamel> largest owl species in the world.
20:29 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at imagebin.org)
20:29 <zombie67> there ya go
20:30 <zombie67> normally they are out back, and I hear them when the neighbor feeds them
20:30 <xcamel> the "baby" from 3 years ago caught and ate a 15 lb beaver.
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20:30 <xcamel> toss some corn cobs out there - they'll go CRAZY....
20:30 <zombie67> this afternoon, their gobble was so loud, I thought they were in the house. That is when I took the picture of them on my fence
20:30 <zombie67> will do
20:31 <zombie67> usually I throw out my old veggies and stale bread
20:31 <PovAddict> lol
20:31 <xcamel> this time of year they are eating grubs mostly
20:31 <CoderForLife> hide small children
20:31 <xcamel> and it looks like there are a bunch of 'jakes'
20:32 * CoderForLife crawls toward the bedroom
20:32 <zombie67> no kidding. These are wild of course, but with the neighbor feeding them 2x daily for 3+ years, they have gotten huge
20:32 <xcamel> jakes are turkeys that don't know what sex they are yet.
20:32 <zombie67> yeah, it's odd, it seems to be a mixed flock
20:32 <zombie67> I thought that was a no-no with turkeys
20:32 <zombie67> maybe the free food overrides it
20:33 <xcamel> sex ratio is determined by the size of the flock, and feeding conditions...
20:33 <zombie67> the big ones are about 3' tall
20:33 <zombie67> ah.
20:33 <zombie67> I thought it was like deer
20:33 <xcamel> nope..
20:33 <zombie67> one male
20:34 <zombie67> and then a separate herd of males w/o herds
20:34 <xcamel> watch out for an "alpha hen"
20:34 <zombie67> I also have a herd of mule deer, about 25 strong
20:34 <xcamel> they can really hurt you.
20:34 <xcamel> alphas never breed or lay eggs
20:35 <zombie67> alpha females??
20:35 <xcamel> their whole purpose is to protect the sitting hens
20:35 <xcamel> toms could care less
20:35 <zombie67> wow. learn something every day
20:36 <zombie67> I sent out the picture to a friend who lives in the valley, at the edge of my hills. He responede with this:
20:36 <zombie67> I was walking my dog the other day and a mom turkey and all the chicks were crossing
20:36 <zombie67> the street. One of the chicks couldn't make it up and over the curb--- it was
20:36 <zombie67> squeeking pathetically--- so I decided to give it a helping hand.
20:36 <zombie67> .... I helped the little chicky up and then was immediately attacked by the mom turkey!
20:36 <xcamel> they will fight predators to the death to protect the breeding stock
20:36 <zombie67> That f__cker swooped me and my dog half way down Stagecoach. After about 100 yards
20:36 <zombie67> at a full out run, I stopped to catch my breath and see where it was at.
20:36 <zombie67> It was right on my ass!!! and chased me all the way to Turquise.
20:36 <zombie67> Son-of-a-bitch turkeys!
20:36 <xcamel> you can not outrun them
20:37 <zombie67> do turkeys have the big claw like roosters?
20:37 <xcamel> 30mph 1 foot off the fround
20:37 <xcamel> uh-huh
20:37 <xcamel> er ground even
20:39 <xcamel> they **will** hurt you.
20:39 <zombie67> behind my house is huge undeveloped bowl. maybe a quarter mile across, and 500 feet from the top edges to the bottom. I saw one of those big fat suckers fly straight across it. A turkey 500 feet off the ground! Amazing
20:42 <efc> i used to talk to some owls int he mountains. Screechers probably.
20:43 <efc> they'd recognize my sound and say 'back off'
20:43 <xcamel> Bog hooters are really cool - they will 'talk' to you...
20:44 <xcamel> cripes...
20:44 <xcamel> "Big"
20:44 <zombie67> problem: with all the food my neighbor feed to the turkeys, she attracted a flock of pigeons...about 80 of them. And they decided my roof was the place to spend their nights.
20:45 <zombie67> guess what that means....
20:45 <xcamel> that gets kind of gross.
20:45 <zombie67> no kidding
20:45 <zombie67> crap EVERYWHERE
20:45 <xcamel> got a .410 shotgun?
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20:46 <zombie67> scaring them off several times a week does nothing
20:46 <xcamel> put a "fake owl" up there..
20:46 <zombie67> There is a local red-tailed hawk!
20:46 <zombie67> too many of them to be worried
20:47 <xcamel> rt's hate pigeons
20:47 <xcamel> and won't eat them
20:47 <zombie67> I am thing about some how putting one of those motion-detecting sprinklers on my roof
20:47 <xcamel> the owl is better.. mortal enemy of the winged pigs
20:48 <zombie67> think a motionless owl will really work?
20:49 <xcamel> move it once a week
20:50 <zombie67> does it have to be on the roof? Or will it work someplace in the yard?
20:51 <zombie67> ordered
20:51 <xcamel> on the peak of the roof is best
20:52 <xcamel> but other places will work
20:52 <xcamel> it's won't bother the turkeys.
20:52 <zombie67> thanks for the advise
20:57 <xcamel> no problem..
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22:12 <Soul_keeper> &weather 2000
22:12 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:13 <Soul_keeper> no aussie postcodes, as i suspected
22:18 <quail> CoderForLife: yeah I have just noticed it has expired, but I have paid for it?
22:19 <quail> CoderForLife: I should say I have renewed it
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