IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2009-01-24

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00:31 <zombie67> why won't my mac pro use more than 4gb of RAM for BOINC?  It has 8gb, and is Leopard.

00:32 <efc> Does it need it? Thats a ton.

00:32 <zombie67> yes.  5 of 8 tasks running are GARLI, which need 1.25gb of RAM each

00:33 <efc> Not sure if BOINC has to be a special 64 bit version on that platform..

00:33 <efc> though you'd think it would be the apps that matter

00:33 <zombie67> it is already the 64 bit version

00:34 <PovAddict> GARLI?

00:34 <zombie67> Starting BOINC client version 6.6.2 for x86_64-apple-darwin

00:34 <zombie67> GARLI is a sub-project for Lattice

00:35 <PovAddict> zombie67: you keep trying to grab work from silly pi, but you're taking forever to report it back! :)

00:36 <zombie67> anuary 23, 2009 New Work

00:36 <zombie67> Despite the fact that we're still waiting on a front end upgrade, we are issuing workunits for a couple of applications, GARLI and MARXAN. Many of the GARLI jobs will be memory intensive, requiring a minimum of 1.2G of RAM. Also, we expect approximately 38,000 MARXAN jobs some time next week.

00:36 <zombie67> then set a shorter deadline!!

00:36 <PovAddict> I can't change deadline once work is out :)

00:37 <zombie67> if BOINC had the feature I always asked for, I could fix it easily

00:37 <zombie67> "suspend all project but this one"

00:37 <PovAddict> well, it has multiple selection...

00:37 <PovAddict> select all except that one and click Suspend

00:39 <PovAddict> but I got some back already

00:39 <PovAddict> and I'm confused about the error

00:39 <PovAddict> ooh a different one

00:39 <zombie67> and I can't select all and resume!

00:40 <PovAddict> hmm?

00:40 <zombie67> ah, I have to re-suspend the one project, THEN I can select all and resume

00:40 <zombie67> what a PITA

00:40 <PovAddict> maybe it stupidly disables the resume button if you selected any project that isn't suspended

00:41 <PovAddict> synecdoche manager shows separate buttons (Suspend/Resume) all the time, instead of a single one that changes label

00:41 <zombie67> And crtl-A doesn't work

00:41 <PovAddict> so you can select multiple projects where some are suspended and some aren't, and suspend all or resume all, because both buttons are available

00:43 <Soul_keeper> SysInfo: Uname: Linux CPU: Quad Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9450  @ 2.66GHz 3304.074 MHz Bogomips: 26431.42 Mem: 1221/2027M [||||||||||] HDD: 598.15/644.67G [||||||||||] Up: 40 days 20 hrs 53 mins 35 secs Load: 4.00 4.02 4.02  Procs: 119 Screen: 2048x1536 (32 bpp) VCORE:1.20

00:45 <zombie67> okay all returned now

00:45 <zombie67> [21:31]  <zombie67> why won't my mac pro use more than 4gb of RAM for BOINC?  It has 8gb, and is Leopard.

00:55 * Hodapp stumbles in

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01:02 <zombie67> brb

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01:13 <zombie67> does BOINC still give you messages when it is waiting got memory?

01:16 * PovAddict releases new version of app, and some more work

01:17 <PovAddict> zombie67: I generated a bunch more work

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01:23 <zombie67> k

01:23 <zombie67> short short due dates?

01:26 <zombie67> you have it set to send only one task at a time?

01:26 * PovAddict increases the backoff

01:27 <PovAddict> yes, the ideal is running some (few) WUs on as many computers as possible, rather than filling somebody's cache :)

01:28 <PovAddict> your computer "beast" seems to be the only one where the app runs (and gives an error that is part of the app)

01:28 <zombie67> FYI, your other project has been down for days

01:28 <PovAddict> other project?

01:28 <PovAddict> ah yes, the whole server seems down

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01:28 <PovAddict> been like that for like a month

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01:29 <PovAddict> sleep ->

01:29 <zombie67> I mean even the forum

01:29 <PovAddict> I can't even connect remotely (ssh)

01:29 <PovAddict> it's completely down

01:29 <zombie67> ugh

01:29 <zombie67> ever coming back?

01:29 <PovAddict> I have no idea what even happened to it

01:30 <zombie67> ??

01:30 <zombie67> talking about IMP

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01:32 <PovAddict> I know

01:32 <PovAddict> no idea what happened to that server

01:32 <zombie67> I thought that was yours

01:33 <PovAddict> somebody who used to be a bit involved with the internet movie project gave some space on the server he had paying customers on :)

01:33 <zombie67> Ah.  Well, so much for the credits plan.  ;)

01:34 <zombie67> are you involved with ORE?

01:34 <zombie67> looks like BURP pahse 2

01:35 <PovAddict> I'm not even involved with BURP :P

01:35 <zombie67> I know, but this looks like stuff you would be interested in

01:36 <PovAddict> someone was interested in running a renderfarm for a specific purpose, and wanted to use BURP code (the project-specific server code is open)

01:36 <PovAddict> in the end they *hired* BURP admin apparently

01:36 <zombie67> ah

01:37 <zombie67> I thought the server status page looked similar

01:37 <PovAddict> the "behind the scenes" code is identical :)

01:38 <zombie67> so it's not a phase 2

01:38 <zombie67> if the ORE guys wanted to crunch, why not just use BURP then?

01:39 <PovAddict> well, while helping ORE, Janus is also writing a whole new version of the server code

01:39 <zombie67> Sure, I see HIS motivation

01:39 <zombie67> but they could have just used Janus' FREE service

01:39 <zombie67> OH!

01:39 <zombie67> I think BURP has a clause

01:40 <zombie67> that requires everyone can use the results

01:41 <zombie67> I am guessing he ORE guys want to own their product

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01:42 <zombie67> oops

01:47 <PovAddict> zombie67:

01:47 <Romulus> <> (at

01:50 <zombie67> hmmm...the ABC thing is interesting

01:54 <zombie67> there are some projects out there (cough WCG) that send tasks to >10 hosts

01:55 <PovAddict> what ABC thing? (I didnt read thr whole thread; i just linked to a specific post on it)

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01:58 <zombie67> yeah, that post was over my head

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01:58 <zombie67> but two posts later is the ABC thing

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01:58 <zombie67>

01:58 <Romulus> <> (at

01:59 <zombie67> The KIllers....are killer!

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04:17 <Romulus> <> (at

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05:04 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:04 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: timed out

05:04 <CoderForLife> umm

05:04 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: timed out

05:05 <CoderForLife> bummer

05:13 <CoderForLife> what a way to finish day 1 of KathrynM's 4 day weekend

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05:34 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:53 <CoderForLife> back - was delayed in going

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06:47 <KathrynM> back from dinner

06:48 <KathrynM> chili cheese fries.

06:48 <KathrynM> like manna from the heavens

06:48 * CoderForLife looks out the window up at the sky

06:48 <CoderForLife> hmm  dark

06:49 <KathrynM> 0 dark o'lock?

06:49 <KathrynM> errr o'clock?

06:49 <CoderForLife> my locks used to be dark

06:49 <CoderForLife> what hasn't fallen out is graying

06:50 <CoderForLife> who's idea was this getting old stuff?

06:50 <KathrynM> dunno

06:50 <KathrynM> they should be taken out back and shot

06:50 <CoderForLife> "here's your getting old" - bang!

06:52 * CoderForLife works on taxes

06:54 <CoderForLife> dang - I don't have the real estate tax statement from the county yet

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07:28 <CoderForLife> off to the store

07:28 <CoderForLife> bbl

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08:28 <xcamel_> 'lo

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08:36 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:36 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 19.8F / -6.8C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers this morning...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the mid 20s. Temperature falling to around 17 this afternoon. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to (1 more message)

08:37 <xcamel> &more

08:37 <Romulus> xcamel: 35 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 4 above. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...becoming southwest around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs around 20. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.;

09:14 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

09:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Error: timed out

09:14 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

09:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -3.5F / -19.7C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.65in / 1037.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Sunny until late afternoon then becoming partly sunny. Very cold. High 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Lowest wind chill readings 15 below to 25 below zero in the morning.; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the (2 more messages)

09:14 <wdsmia> &more

09:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: evening then becoming mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of light snow after midnight. Not as cold. Low 5 to 10 above. North wind near 5 mph.; Sunday - Cloudy. A chance of snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. High around 15. Northeast wind around 5 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Wind Chill Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 (1 more message)

09:14 <wdsmia> &more

09:14 <Romulus> wdsmia: PM CST on January 24, 2009;

09:15 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

09:15 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

09:17 <xcamel> something has freerepublic burred today...

09:19 <xcamel> I wonder if that worm finally took over the internet

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09:36 <xcamel> temps have dropped 4 since I got up

09:36 <xcamel> 17F now

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09:51 <xcamel> something going on out there... some big sites offline or taking forever to load

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10:33 <CoderForLife> back

10:33 <CoderForLife> re-hi

10:33 <CoderForLife> I am in slo-mo today

10:33 <CoderForLife> didn't leave for the store until 8 am

10:36 <CoderForLife> groceries are too expensive

10:40 <CoderForLife> </rant>

10:47 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

10:47 <CoderForLife> hey Michael

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10:47 <MTughan> I've had cruddy Internet access over the past couple days, but I should be pretty stable now.

10:48 <CoderForLife> sounds like progress

10:48 <MTughan> Yeah.

10:48 <MTughan> Here for the rest of the day, Stallman should be speaking in about 2.5 hours.

10:48 <CoderForLife> excellent

10:49 <CoderForLife> I have not seen him speak

10:50 <MTughan> 1:30PM EST.

10:51 <CoderForLife> typically when I go to a show at a hotel, the hotel network always crashes under the load

10:51 <MTughan> Seems to be fine so far.

10:51 <CoderForLife> but it had been getting better in general

10:53 <MTughan> Hmm, doesn't look like I got a CTCP VERSION from Freenode...

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10:59 <PovAddict> hey MTughan, wb

11:01 <PovAddict> I just woke up -.-

11:02 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict

11:02 <PovAddict> 2 pm

11:02 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict

11:05 <PovAddict> hi CFL

11:08 <PovAddict> those with IRC logs know what vrazy time I went to sleep (dont tell Mom)

11:08 <CoderForLife> it's 2pm there?

11:08 <PovAddict> crazy*

11:08 <CoderForLife> I thought we were 1 or 2 hours different

11:08 <PovAddict> yes, it's 14:07

11:08 <CoderForLife> hmm

11:09 <CoderForLife> 11am+ here

11:10 <PovAddict> some idiot thought it would be a good idea to get into DST, putting us two hours away from the correct geographical timezone

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11:13 <CoderForLife> wow - 2 hours off

11:13 <MTughan> Back.

11:14 <xcamel> burrrrrrr

11:14 <MTughan> Ouch, that's a long time off.

11:14 <CoderForLife> morning xcamel

11:14 <CoderForLife> wb MTughan

11:14 <xcamel> 'lo Don

11:14 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

11:22 <xcamel> temps are dropping pretty fast..

11:22 <xcamel> but I think I said that earlier..

11:23 <MTughan> &wx YUL

11:23 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: -4°F / -20°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Low Drifting Snow | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM EST; Today - Sunny. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph). Temperature falling to -21C(-6F) this afternoon. Wind chill -32.; Tonight - Clear. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Wind up to 15 km/h (9 (1 more message)

11:23 <MTughan> Yeah, it's cold...

11:24 <MTughan> &wx YOW

11:24 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: -9°F / -23°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Low Drifting Snow | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM EST; Today - Sunny. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this afternoon. High -19C(-2F). Wind chill -36.; Tonight - Cloudy periods. Temperature steady near -16C(3F).; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 (1 more message)

11:24 <MTughan> Not as cold as Ottawa though. :D

11:26 <xcamel> it'll be here by tomorrow.

11:26 <MTughan> Cold air mass coming from the north?

11:27 <xcamel> yes indeed

11:30 <xcamel> 16 now, but the wind chill is about 5

11:32 <CoderForLife> we're having a wimpy winter compared to you, and I'm not complaining

11:32 <CoderForLife> last year we got the 13" snowfall in March, and my attitude towards life hasn't been the same since

11:34 <CoderForLife> here's a fun fact: Monday marks the Year of the Earth Ox in Chinese Astrology

11:34 <CoderForLife> I have no idea what that's supposed to mean

11:34 <xcamel> lunar new year too or something

11:35 <CoderForLife> I think that's when the loons come out

11:36 <MTughan> 25th anniversary of the Mac today.

11:36 <CoderForLife> now that's something to party about

11:36 <CoderForLife> where were you on this day 25 years ago?

11:37 <KathrynM> Lunar New Year

11:37 <KathrynM> or vacation for me :)

11:37 <MTughan> Nonexistent.

11:37 <MTughan> 'lo KathrynM

11:37 <KathrynM> mornin'

11:38 <CoderForLife> I was crowding into a computer store downtown at lunchtime to see the Macintosh.  The Lisa had been pushed aside, and the shiny new mac was in it's place.

11:39 <CoderForLife> we were standing about 10 deep in the small store

11:39 <MTughan> Q: "How is a brain surgeon a kind of artist?" A: "Why would I want to be an artist? I'm a f***ing brain surgeon."

11:39 <MTughan> This guys interesting... :P

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11:42 <CoderForLife> nearly lunchtime - bbiab

11:43 <MTughan> Seeya.

11:43 <MTughan> xcamel: Why is hawmps op?

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11:46 <MTughan> Thanks, that just looks better on my user list. :P

11:46 <xcamel> op after split

11:46 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

11:46 <MTughan> IIRC, you could've done that through ChanServ too.

11:47 <MTughan> /msg ChanServ deop #boinc hawmps

11:47 <MTughan> Something like that, but your method works fine.

11:48 <xcamel> there are reasons..

11:48 <MTughan> Heh, all right.

11:48 * KathrynM yawns

11:48 * KathrynM shivers

11:48 <KathrynM> Time to go back to bed me thinks.

11:48 <MTughan> KathrynM: 2AM there, isn't it?

11:48 <KathrynM> yup

11:48 <MTughan> Nice.

11:49 <KathrynM> woke up with "Eye of the Tiger" running through my head.

11:49 <MTughan> o_O

11:49 <KathrynM> Singing it a dozen times a day for a week will do that to you.

11:49 <xcamel> 'lo K

11:49 <MTughan> lol

11:49 <KathrynM> hiya X

11:49 <xcamel> stuck song?

11:49 <KathrynM> I had to deal with whining 2nd and 3rd graders on Friday.

11:50 <KathrynM> They wanted to sing it.  I wanted them to sing "Rock Around the Clock" because I was going to go crazy if I had to listen to "Eye of the Tiger" one more time.

11:50 <xcamel> lol

11:50 <KathrynM> We do pop songs with our students as a fun way of learning English

11:50 <KathrynM> WHatever.  Drives the teachers mad, but can take up a chunk of class time.

11:50 <MTughan> I don't suppose you've looked at the Black Eyed Peas or System of a Down? xD

11:51 <KathrynM> If the language is clean, I can use it.  I've not been inspired lately to look for stuff.  These were on a CD left by a previous teacher.

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11:54 <MTughan> All right, speech over, I'm going to have some lunch before Stallman speaks...

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11:55 <Hodapp> ZOMG RMS

12:04 <xcamel> eh?

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12:27 <CoderForLife> back - re-hi

12:27 <Tank_Master> re-wb

12:28 <CoderForLife> ty

12:30 <PovAddict> "I'd like to live in Theory.  Everything works there."

12:30 <CoderForLife> &wx Theory

12:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

12:31 <CoderForLife> except the weather

12:40 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 38.1F / 3.4C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain. Highs near 45. Light wind. Near The Gorge...east wind 15 to 25 mph decreasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Snow level 1000 feet (1 more message)

12:40 <Tank_Master> &more

12:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: after midnight. Lows 30 to 35. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Rain and snow likely in the morning...then a chance of rain and snow in the afternoon. Snow level 500 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Highs 35 to 40. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph near The Gorge.;

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12:41 <Tank_Master> MT!

12:42 <MTughan> 'lo TM

12:43 * CoderForLife grumbles - "... Enter the amount from your 2007 Schedule A, line 5 ..."

12:48 <MTughan> Stallman coming on in 45 minutes or so...

12:49 <CoderForLife> the excitement builds

12:49 <PovAddict> lol impatient

12:49 <CoderForLife> maybe he'll annouce GPL 4

12:50 <PovAddict> doubt it

12:50 <PovAddict> nobody has exploited GPL3 in an unexpected way yet

12:50 <PovAddict> :)

12:50 <MTughan> lol

12:53 <PovAddict> "Boy making shadow pictures with his hand: 'Look, Daddy, Digital Imaging'."

12:53 <CoderForLife> heh

12:53 <MTughan> PovAddict: First video is of Jeff Atwood. I haven't watched it yet, but you might be interested.

12:53 <Romulus> Title: software (r)evolutions Videos (at

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12:59 <MTughan> And Stallman is in the house...

13:01 <MTughan> Now I sit around for half an hour while they set up... :P

13:04 <PovAddict> > I dare you not to sing along to Beethoven's setting of "Ode to Joy" (An die

13:04 <PovAddict> > Freude).

13:04 <PovAddict> 1. That was Beethoven?

13:04 <PovAddict> <facepalm>

13:05 <MTughan> lol

13:11 <Tank_Master> whois jeff atwood?

13:11 <MTughan> Author of CodingHorror.

13:11 <Tank_Master> ahh

13:13 <CoderForLife> bbiab

13:28 <PovAddict>

13:28 <PovAddict> I can't believe what they can stuff in 4KB

13:32 <MTughan> 4KB compressed or uncompressed?

13:34 <PovAddict> 4KB compressed, but not thanks to zip...

13:35 <PovAddict> it's a .com (!) that decompresses itself when run

13:35 <MTughan> I thought ZIP was good with text?

13:36 <PovAddict> code isn't text

13:36 <PovAddict> and that's not the point :)

13:37 <PovAddict> making an animation of cubes colliding in 4KB, compressed or not, needs quite some skillz

13:37 <MTughan> Ah, nice... (I didn't download it.)

13:37 <MTughan> Seems we're a couple minutes overtime here...

13:37 <PovAddict> zip got the unpacked program from 20KB to 4.2KB

13:37 <PovAddict> the packed program is 4.0KB, including the decompression code, so there :)

13:38 <MTughan> I'm thinking I'll reboot into Linux, which will disconnect me from the net.

13:38 <MTughan> There's Stallman... Coming in now.

13:39 <MTughan> Looks like he's cut his beard recently.

13:39 <PovAddict> lol

13:40 <MTughan> All right, I'll be back later. Possibly much later.

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14:53 <PovAddict> QMC@Home is back alife

14:53 <PovAddict> alive*

14:53 * FreeLarry58 checks pulse -- yup still dead

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14:56 <FreeLarry58> moo efc

14:56 <efc> hey

14:57 <FreeLarry58> being quiet here today - hurts to type

14:57 * FreeLarry58 off to try appt, hotline again - maybe can get thru this time

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15:02 <MTughan> Holy crap... We're bidding on a GNU stuffed animal here, $90CDN has been bid for it...

15:02 <MTughan> $105...

15:04 <MTughan> Sold to a Microsoft "Developer Enthusiast" for $105...

15:05 <efc> He'll embrace and extinguish it

15:05 <MTughan> In the words of someone: "Save the GNU!"

15:09 <PovAddict> o_O

15:09 <PovAddict> a stuffed gnu

15:10 <MTughan> I was going to bid on it, but I only have $5, and the starting bid was $25.

15:10 <MTughan> And I have nowhere near $105. If I did, I'd get a new PSU and challenge Soul_keeper. :P

15:10 <PovAddict> heh

15:11 <PovAddict> you can buy stuffed gnus on fsf website

15:11 <PovAddict> but it's not the same to receive it from RMS Himself

15:11 <MTughan> Yeah.

15:12 <PovAddict>

15:12 <Romulus> Title: GNU Press | Free Software Foundation Online Shop | Buy GNU t-shirts, books, stickers and stuffed gnu toys (at

15:13 <MTughan> That's it.

15:13 <xcamel> stuffed gnu... anything like stuffed shrimp?

15:15 <MTughan> I'm low on battery power... Gonna shut down the wireless, see you all later.

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15:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

15:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 28.2F / -2.1C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered flurries. Isolated snow showers. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of measurable snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the (1 more message)

15:36 <CoderForLife> &more

15:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows 10 to 15. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;

15:38 <xcamel> must be nice...

15:52 <efc> moo cfl, xcamel

15:56 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

15:58 <efc> I didn't realize there was a schedule 200 PVC

15:59 <efc> Pipe is Exciting

15:59 <xcamel> heavy duty stuff.

16:00 <efc> I've got some of it for some reason

16:01 <efc> I was thinking about making my own little motors, since I can't seem to buy what I want

16:02 <PovAddict> does anyone here know x86 assembly?

16:02 <efc> i have some recollection of it

16:02 <efc> HCF - halt and catch fire. what else do you need?

16:03 <PovAddict> I'm working in 64-bit... apparently the C calling convention uses %rax for return values

16:03 <PovAddict> a 64-bit register

16:03 <PovAddict> and I need to mov it to %eax, which doesn't work because eax is 32-bit

16:04 <PovAddict> I dunno if %eax *is* the low dword of %rax or if it's an independent register

16:04 <efc> I haven't used the 64 bit version. Not sure if it is even that similar to 32 bit..

16:05 <xcamel> it's been faaaaar toooooo loooong to remember any of that stuff.

16:05 <PovAddict> it is

16:05 <efc> I'd guess that there's a swapper instruction, and that EAX is the lower half of whatever they call 64 bit AX

16:05 <PovAddict> xcamel: x86_64 architecture probably didn't exist faaaaar toooooo loooong anyway :)

16:05 <PovAddict> +ago

16:06 <PovAddict> I want to put the low 32-bits of rax into ebx

16:06 <efc> last time i messed with it was examining gcc output making it really fast

16:06 <efc> Oh, I bet you could do mov ebx, eax then ..

16:07 <PovAddict> oh right -_-'

16:07 <PovAddict> movl %eax,%ebx in my case

16:07 <PovAddict> (AT&T syntax)

16:08 <PovAddict> looks like it worked

16:08 * PovAddict just called a C function from asm \o/

16:08 <PovAddict> 64-bit has only one calling convention, all the stdcall/cdecl/fastcall mess is gone

16:08 <PovAddict> except that "only one calling convention" is different between windows and linux, of course...

16:08 <xcamel> no, it was x86, x88 code

16:09 <efc> Cool. I never studied them..

16:09 <PovAddict> there *had* to be some inconvenience :)

16:09 <PovAddict> efc:

16:09 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:10 * PovAddict just did something like foo(foo(19))

16:10 <efc> this looks like forbidden knowledge from the dark times

16:11 <PovAddict> int foo(int n) { print(n); return 42; } so I basically printed 19 and 42

16:11 <PovAddict> I'll see if I can make a boinc science app in assembly... the API is marked extern "C" so it shouldn't be *too* hard

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16:21 <PovAddict> hm... doing a syscall modifies registers?

16:21 <PovAddict> ah yes, duh... return value in eax

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16:25 <PovAddict> [19:18] * PovAddict is writing assembly

16:25 <PovAddict> [19:21] <AMcBain> did you create a foot to shoot yet?

16:26 <efc> usually if i want something really clean (which is rare) I'd write C, then look at the assembly output of gcc, and tweak the c to make the assembly nice

16:26 <PovAddict> eventually I want to learn to exploit buffer overflows :)

16:27 <efc> join the dark side eh

16:28 <xcamel> that was un-good

16:28 * FreeLarry58 thinks PovAddict is being nasty thinking about overflows

16:34 <xcamel> journal commit errors suck

16:47 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:47 <PovAddict> &wx eze

16:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 10.5F / -11.9C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 2 below. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...becoming southwest around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs around 18. (1 more message)

16:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 95°F / 35°C | Humidity: 28% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:96 F.; Clear. Low:73 F.; Chance of Rain. High:78 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F.; Chance of Rain. High:86 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 F.;

16:47 <PovAddict> lol jinx?

16:47 <xcamel> &more

16:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Cold with lows around 2 above. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:47 <xcamel> something like that..

16:48 <PovAddict> we both typed &wx in the same 10th of a second or something

16:48 <xcamel> now wind chill warnings being posted...

16:48 <PovAddict> send me some!

16:49 <xcamel> I would love to

16:50 <FreeLarry58> or he could have whats coming here

16:50 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

16:50 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 41.2F / 5.1C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog this morning. Highs in the mid 30s to lower 40s. Light wind becoming north 10 mph or less this afternoon.; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of flurries. Lows in the mid 20s to lower 30s. North (1 more message)

16:50 <FreeLarry58> &more

16:50 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: wind to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the 30s to lower 40s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph.;

16:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

16:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 7.3F / -13.7C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.53in / 1033.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming cloudy. Snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low zero to 5 above. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. West wind near 5 mph. Chance (1 more message)

16:51 <wdsmia> &more

16:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow 70 percent.; Sunday - Snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 3 inches. High around 15. Light wind becoming north up to 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Sunday Night - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of light snow. Low zero to 5 above. Northeast wind around 5 mph.;

16:53 <xcamel> weather weather everywhere

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17:02 <jasong> Apparently, my dad has a newly discovered skill:  The ability to break into people's houses.(with the permission of the owner in this case)

17:02 <jasong> She locked herself out of her house, so my dad got his tools to let her back in

17:07 <up365> jasong, can your dad help me...break out of cell 3429, I'm innocent!

17:13 <jasong> lol

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17:18 * Rookie_69 sticks his nose in while waiting for pizza to cook.

17:18 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

17:18 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:19 <xcamel> get cold there yet?

17:19 <Rookie_69> Almost balmy today... +2C.

17:20 <Rookie_69> Down to -2 or -3 now though.

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17:27 <xcamel> that's how it was here yesterday - it was really nice for a while.

17:29 <Rookie_69> Note to self... expect cold tomorrow.

17:32 <PovAddict> hmm

17:32 <PovAddict> efc: I made a simple asm program that just calls boinc_init() and boinc_finish(0);

17:32 <PovAddict> boinc_finish segfaults on the first time it tries to do a floating-point operation

17:35 <xcamel> looks like that last little frak-up took out my sound drivers...

17:36 <Rookie_69> Note to self... order new ear drums.

17:43 * Rookie_69 is now eating pizza.

17:48 <xcamel> finished eggs/sausage/english muffin with PB

17:49 <Rookie_69> Breakfast already?

17:50 <wdsmia>

17:50 <Romulus> <> (at

17:50 <xcamel> makes a good dinner too..

17:53 <xcamel> not industrial PB, Doug.

17:54 <Rookie_69> Goobers-R-Us is not affected.

17:57 <xcamel> seems not.

17:57 <PovAddict> crappers... the problem is stack alignment

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17:58 <Xunie> Can I let boinc checkout for about 20 minutes of work?

17:58 <Xunie> or something like that?

17:58 <PovAddict> you can't manually request X seconds of work from project Y

17:59 <PovAddict> but I think you aren't being specific enough... what do you need and why? :)

18:01 <Rookie_69> Maybe there should be a way to only get really small WU's...

18:02 <Rookie_69> Some of these ones that take a month or six can get tedious.

18:03 * Rookie_69 looks to see if Tricarico is watching.

18:06 <Xunie> PovAddict, Short amount of work for a short amount of time.

18:07 <PovAddict> and the 'why'?

18:08 <Rookie_69> Boss keeps looking over his shoulder?

18:11 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

18:11 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.42in / 996hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:39 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:39 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F.; Overcast. High:37 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:28 F.;

18:18 * Rookie_69 wonders why somewhere as far inland as Berlin isn't colder.

18:19 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

18:19 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 22.1°F / -5.5°C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 7:18 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods with 30 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing this evening. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low -16C(3F). Cold wind chill -25 overnight.; Sunday - Sunny with (1 more message)

18:20 <Rookie_69> &more

18:20 <Romulus> Rookie_69: cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming southwest 20 in the afternoon. High -10C(14F). Cold wind chill -25 in the morning. Sunday night cloudy periods. 70 percent chance of flurries in the evening. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming north 20 km/h (12 mph) overnight. Low -14C(6F).; Monday - Sunny. High -12C(10F).;

18:20 <yoyo[RKN]> &airport yaw

18:20 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Error: I couldn't find yaw in airport.

18:20 <Rookie_69> &wx yhz

18:20 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 19°F / -7°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods with 30 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Clearing this evening. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low -16C(3F). Cold wind chill -25 overnight.; Sunday - Sunny with cloudy (1 more message)

18:21 <yoyo[RKN]> &airport yhz

18:21 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Halifax, Canada

18:21 <Rookie_69> Close enough.

18:22 <Rookie_69> YAW is a military airfield... I guess it doesn't count.

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18:27 <xcamel> back again

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18:38 <Soul_keeper>

18:38 <Romulus> <> (at

18:38 <Soul_keeper> "I have always known and hoped that the NSA had all rights to do anything. They are the "mystery" organization to me who should have rights to do the governments dirty work like killing anyone anytime. This guy whistle blew not on killing though... on simple information gathering? I don't care if the government monitors everything I do. I am not a terrorist and have nothing to hide. Plus, if the government needs me dead to promote the gr

18:38 <Soul_keeper> eater good then so be it even if I did nothing wrong. Besides the NSA and other government's secret organizations though, I respect human rights. "

18:39 <Soul_keeper> that idiot might get his wish

18:42 <Rookie_69> I have nothing to hide... Just a lot of stuff I really don't want made public.

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18:42 <xcamel> bbiab power off reboot..

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18:44 <Rookie_69> Quick... Talk about him while he's not here.

18:46 <wdsmia> Jay may not be here bur Rommie is still logging lol

18:46 <wdsmia> err but

18:46 <Rookie_69> Spoilsport!

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18:48 <Soul_keeper> i just passed 100K in GPUgrid today :)

18:48 <Rookie_69> Shh... He's back.

18:49 <xcamel> a'yup

18:49 <xcamel> sound back

18:49 <xcamel> operapluginwrapper dead and gone though

18:50 <Rookie_69> I never much liked opera music anyways.

18:50 <wdsmia> lol

18:50 <Rookie_69> :-)

18:50 <jasong> What's the best channel on this server if your XP machine doesn't have sound and you want to fix that problem?

18:51 <PovAddict> ##windows?

18:51 <PovAddict> (a bit full of noobs though, although I think #ubuntu is *worse*)

18:51 <jasong> DUH!!! /me is stupid.  thanks

18:52 * Rookie_69 would have thought E-Bay would be a better place to find a set of speakers.

18:54 <xcamel> ooh.. you just reminded me of something...

18:54 <jasong> oh, I have speakers, they're just not doiong anything

18:55 <PovAddict> pay 'em more

18:55 <PovAddict> if they don't work

18:55 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:56 <xcamel> merlin's apprentice coming on..(scifi)

18:56 <xcamel> Sam Neal back as Merlin

18:56 <xcamel> should be good.

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19:07 * Rookie_69 remembers Sam Neal in some documentary series...

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20:05 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Error: timed out

20:06 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Error: timed out

20:06 <Rookie_69> &math convert -6.5 C to F

20:06 <Romulus> Rookie_69: 20.3

20:07 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:07 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 5.3F / -14.8C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy early in the evening then becoming cloudy. Snow likely after midnight. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Low zero to 5 above. Temperature steady or slowly rising after midnight. West wind near 5 mph. Chance (1 more message)

20:07 <wdsmia> &more

20:07 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow 70 percent.; Sunday - Snow in the morning...then snow likely in the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 3 inches. High around 15. Light wind becoming north up to 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Sunday Night - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of light snow. Low zero to 5 above. Northeast wind around 5 mph.;

20:08 <MTughan> Good to have fast, stable internet again... xD

20:10 <Rookie_69> Stable? You're back in the barn?

20:12 <wdsmia> molesting sheep?

20:12 <Rookie_69> Baaad joke.

20:12 * FreeLarry58 refuses temptation to look at weather forecast - last heard was using 4 letter s word

20:12 <MTughan> Don't know that I'd call it a barn, but I'm back at the university.

20:13 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: Snow, rain, or hail?

20:13 <Rookie_69> spam?

20:13 <Rookie_69> spit?

20:13 <Romulus> hmm... spit is playing Entropia, Rookie_69

20:13 <FreeLarry58> alll of the above ;)

20:13 <MTughan> Raining spam?

20:13 <MTughan> lol

20:14 <FreeLarry58> looks like i will have to go to the VA emergancy room - just to get an appt setup for tendonitous evaluation

20:14 <FreeLarry58> for somereason they no longer run the nurses hotline over weekends

20:15 <Rookie_69> You have to travel to Virginia to find an emergency room???

20:15 <Rookie_69> That sux.

20:16 <FreeLarry58> no just to tacoma

20:16 <FreeLarry58> vet admin

20:16 <Rookie_69> j/k.

20:16 * FreeLarry58 pain lessens joke register

20:17 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

20:17 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM KST; Chance of Snow. High:39 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 F.; Chance of Rain. High:41 F.; Clear. Low:24 F.; Clear. High:41 F.; Clear. Low:30 F.;

20:17 * FreeLarry58 on a person with little amount to begin with

20:17 <FreeLarry58> sounds a bit like here KathrynM

20:18 <Rookie_69> If I couldn't laugh, I prolly would have done something stupid years ago.

20:18 <FreeLarry58> sry bout abc KathrynM i see i overtook you a few days ago

20:18 <Rookie_69> Yry? Rye not.

20:19 <KathrynM> no prob.  I've been splitting time with MW on that comp.

20:19 * FreeLarry58 still looking for brain so i can figure out if what i do is stupid

20:19 <wdsmia> MW just cut there credit 1/2

20:19 <Rookie_69> You're here, aren't you?

20:19 <FreeLarry58> ahh - trying to get 3rd project to 1M here - first abc then mw

20:20 <FreeLarry58> Rookie_69 is that good or bad?

20:20 <Rookie_69> Yes.

20:20 <FreeLarry58> lol

20:21 <FreeLarry58> still been getting good cred it seems on mw - the only thing i noticed is they changed the client so optimized version not working - till people make the needed changes to the client that is

20:22 <wdsmia> Januray 24, 2009  So I'm reducing the awarded credit by half, which should put us in line with most BOINC projects.

20:22 <FreeLarry58> seems they had a problem with some optimized version not reporting enough info for them to make informed decisions

20:23 <FreeLarry58> ahh hadn't checked them today

20:24 <FreeLarry58> humm for what i have reported today still getting between 2 to 4 times claimed

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20:25 <wdsmia> This should be reflected in the next set of searches we start up.

20:27 <FreeLarry58> yah - i see version 0.14 released to so should see my machines updating to it soon

20:27 <FreeLarry58> last i saw had 0.10 and 0.13 on one machine running at same time

20:27 <MTughan> It won't literally be a /2 cut. Because we were all hitting the 108 credit/hour limit before, cutting the granted credits in half still might hit the 108 credit/hour limit occasionally.

20:28 <wdsmia> not with there stock opp'ed app

20:28 <FreeLarry58> lol i think i saw one wu that granted something like 7 times claimed amount for me

20:28 <PovAddict> hmm MW...

20:28 <PovAddict> I should try running that

20:28 <MTughan> Say it would've granted 180 credits/hour before, but it hit the limit and was cut. Suddenly, we're not getting 54 credits/hour, we're getting 90 credits/hour.

20:31 <jasong> off-topic question:  Are there cpu boards that have no onboard sound?  Because I bought my quad-core a couple years ago, and I don't remember EVER having sound on that computer

20:32 <jasong> (It was meant to be just a cruncher, I've only recently been interested in gaming

20:32 <FreeLarry58> humm yes jasong have bought some in past without sound

20:32 <jasong> That would explain a lot about why I can't get sound

20:32 <jasong> lol

20:32 <FreeLarry58> most in stores nowdays have sound but no video it seems

20:33 <MTughan> Most boards nowadays come with onboard sound, but I wouldn't be surprised to see older boards without integrated sound.

20:33 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: Depends on the northbridge.

20:33 <FreeLarry58> yup

20:33 <FreeLarry58> i try to avoid the onboard vid anymore anyway

20:33 <MTughan> Intel Gxx series chipsets have integrated bideo.

20:33 <MTughan> video*

20:33 <MTughan> Yeah, it's usually the cheapest thing they could put on, which means it isn't very powerful.

20:34 <FreeLarry58> yup and have had a couple boards go bad because of it - even thou it wasn't being used

20:34 <MTughan> Ouch.

20:35 <FreeLarry58> server boards may be different tho and it may be a good idea just to allow occasional monitoring locally - strong vid not really needed for general monitoring

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20:37 <Rookie_69> Until recently, BOINC didn't care about video, so why worry about it?

20:37 <FreeLarry58> second weekend in a row that abc gave me a huge credit report

20:38 <FreeLarry58> yeah - and the video cards cost for the projects that want them are still to steep

20:39 <Rookie_69> When I win tonight's $43 mil...

20:39 <Rookie_69> Not if...

20:39 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:39 <MTughan> 6/49?

20:39 * FreeLarry58 thinks he needs to go sit at Rookie_69 door

20:39 <Rookie_69> Yup.

20:40 <MTughan> Yeah, somehow I doubt you'll win. :P

20:40 <FreeLarry58> abc Pending credit: 10,695.00

20:40 <BadBarbarian> freelarry what video card are you looking at ???

20:40 <FreeLarry58> was thinking the ati260 series or is that 270?

20:41 <MTughan> 270?

20:41 <Rookie_69> The 2 expensive one.

20:41 <BadBarbarian> the 9400's are cheap and crunch gpu well

20:41 <FreeLarry58> not really positive as not really considering a new build for a few months

20:41 <BadBarbarian>

20:41 <Romulus> <> (at

20:41 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: You mean the 48xx series?

20:42 <FreeLarry58> possibly - next build want to have good graphics card and seperate vid capture card

20:42 <BadBarbarian> 49.00 49.00 for a 1gig 9400 is cheap

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20:42 <FreeLarry58> sounds that way BadBarbarian

20:42 * Rookie_69 thinks it must be four or five years since he built a box.

20:42 <BadBarbarian> opps 64.90

20:43 <MTughan> I'm just wondering where 270 came from... Even the chip name is R770 IIRC.

20:43 <BadBarbarian> its got a rebate

20:43 <FreeLarry58> humm just last januaray for me

20:43 * FreeLarry58 arrrgggg 12 months without building a box

20:44 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:44 <FreeLarry58> well anyway soon have my portion of wifes bills paid off than can start looking at parts again

20:48 * Rookie_69 thinks Larry needs to tie wife to clothes line for a few years.

20:49 * Rookie_69 ducks.

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20:51 <FreeLarry58> Rookie_69 it didn't work - she drug the whole thing to the store to spend

20:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:58 <CoderForLife> re-hi

20:58 <FreeLarry58> wb CoderForLife

20:58 <wdsmia> *lo way

20:58 <CoderForLife> just watched "IronMan"

20:59 <CoderForLife> pretty good flick

20:59 <Rookie_69> Doug meant Jay, I think.

21:00 <Rookie_69> Oh... Maybe he meant Don. Hi, Don.

21:00 * CoderForLife waves

21:01 * FreeLarry58 off to ice elbow again

21:01 <CoderForLife> I managed to get my taxes "done" today - printed out a copy to review

21:01 <CoderForLife> I had it printing while watching the movie )to celebrate)

21:01 <CoderForLife> er (

21:02 * Rookie_69 looks at last year's stack of paper and shudders.

21:04 <CoderForLife> I spent some time optimizing IRA contributions, and found a sweet spot to maximize the IRA tax credit

21:05 <Rookie_69> CFL contributes to the Irish Republican Army??? Must be the name.

21:05 <CoderForLife> I had no idea something like that existed, but there it was after I verified it for a 3rd time

21:06 <CoderForLife> c'mon Rook - think American

21:06 <Rookie_69> Iowa Republican Association?

21:07 <CoderForLife> closer =P

21:07 <Rookie_69> I'm Kanuckistani, don't forget.

21:07 <CoderForLife> trust me, it comes screaming through

21:08 <Rookie_69> Good day, Eh?

21:08 <CoderForLife> lol

21:08 <CoderForLife> I was chatting with a Scotsman over on ##pentaho, and he typed like an Aussie

21:09 <Rookie_69> Oh... That would be G'Day, Mate.

21:09 <CoderForLife> right-o

21:09 <CoderForLife> ta

21:09 <Rookie_69> cheers.

21:10 <MTughan> That's "cheerio" to you.

21:10 <CoderForLife> ah, Taranta chimes in

21:10 <Rookie_69> I gotta get me billy-bong ready...

21:10 <efc> i've been working on some 45s and acetates.. got em soundng pretty good

21:11 <CoderForLife> that's the Georgian way of staying on topic =)

21:11 <Rookie_69> Umm... Wouldn't theacetates eat the 45's?

21:11 * Rookie_69 adds a space to last line.

21:12 <CoderForLife> I'm off to bed - cya nice folks back here soon

21:12 <CoderForLife> gn

21:12 <Rookie_69> nn.

21:12 <wdsmia> &nn

21:12 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

21:12 <efc> put a little phase shift on one channel, and re-equalized, mostly high boost

21:12 <efc> night

21:13 <Rookie_69> I'm told I was thinking of acetone.

21:13 <efc> No they aren't nail polish remover

21:13 <efc> these sound much better now imo, even if it is just some cheap tricks

21:27 <efc> some almost sound like they are off stereo tape now

21:28 <Rookie_69> Replaced the snap crackle with a hiss?

21:29 <Rookie_69> Nitrate was more fun than vinyl...

21:29 <efc> They were mono for one, and 45s

21:29 <efc> phase shift makes them pseudo stereo

21:29 <efc> also the 45s have poor high response so they sound dead

21:30 <efc> they turned up the bass some more so the drums have some kick

21:32 <efc> they->then

21:35 <Rookie_69> If I want to hear too much bass, I just stick my head out the door and listen to the local... mobiles.

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21:36 <efc> I don't turn it up quite that much..

21:36 <Rookie_69> Thump thump rattle rattle.

21:36 * Rookie_69 hears an angel enter the room.

21:37 * Rookie_69 wonders if it's a Hell's Angel...

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21:50 <Rookie_69> Ok... maybe it's a script...

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22:27 * Rookie_69 wonders if any of his kinfolk are attending Carleton...

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22:28 <MTughan__> Rookie_69: If they do, I hope they have better Internet access... >_>

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22:29 <Rookie_69> My sister lives in Kanata, so they could go home to get access.

22:51 <Rookie_69> Hmm... My nephew Michael is the most likely one to still be in school...

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23:18 * Rookie_69 assumes he's a different Michael.

23:19 * Rookie_69 needs to check out Facebook more often.

23:20 <efc>

23:21 <Rookie_69> Sit on my face and tell me that you love me...

23:22 <Rookie_69> I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you..

23:22 * Rookie_69 shuts up.

23:23 <efc> I guess I don't totally get it but whatever

23:23 <efc> Lets set something on fire

23:24 <Rookie_69> I was quoting a song from Monty, or something similar.

23:27 * efc sets Rookie_69 on fire and gets marshmellows

23:27 <Rookie_69> Oh... I was watching Eric The Viking this morning... That's as close to Monty Python as I hope to get.

23:28 <Rookie_69> ...except for maybe The Meaning of Life...

23:28 <Rookie_69> ... or The Life of Brian.

23:31 <Rookie_69> Then there's that one with The Knights Who Say Ni!... I can't remember...

23:32 * Rookie_69 bangs his head against the desk.

23:33 <Rookie_69> Come on baby, light my fire.

23:34 * efc lights the fire

23:34 <PovAddict>

23:34 <Romulus> <> (at

23:34 * Rookie_69 was hoping to see Jim Morrison...

23:35 <efc> I think you missed him by about 40 years

23:37 <efc> I found a store that sells all sorts of crazy neodymium magnets

23:37 <efc> Must be something cool I can do

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23:41 <Rookie_69> Build a perpetual motion machine... I hear they're easy to make.

23:42 <efc> Gas-Right Posterior Strips: They Spread Your Butt-Cheeks Apart

23:43 <efc> I used to try a lot of ideas for perpetual motion..

23:43 <PovAddict> lol

23:43 <Rookie_69> I thought that was the job of methane.

23:43 <efc> they exist to silence farts

23:44 <efc> on the perpetual motion - if you can give me a non-ferrous magnetic shield, I'll give you a perpetual motion machine

23:44 <efc> thats really a lie, i'd wack you and run off and get rich

23:44 * Rookie_69 goes to look.

23:44 <efc> You can be fairly sure they don't exist..

23:45 <efc> I am sort of interested in making motors since I can't seem to get the kind I want

23:45 <efc> need about 62 oz-in of torque in 1.5" diameter or smaller

23:45 <efc> err, 62 pound-in

23:46 <efc> or, a 62 pound pusher rod

23:47 <efc> motor making doesn't seem to be a popular hobby on the net

23:58 <Rookie_69> I don't make them... I just fix them.

23:59 <Rookie_69> NN.

23:59 <efc> high energy in small package..

23:59 <Rookie_69> Talk to hitachi.

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