IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-01-27

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00:53 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

00:53 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 43.3F / 6.3C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers. Lows 33 to 43. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 percent.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Highs around 65 in the (1 more message)

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01:13 <Soul_keeper> "Pope Benedict XVI has launched a YouTube channel, which delivers news on relevant Vatican events and the Catholic Church's stance on worldwide issues. "

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01:47 <Tidus> split city?

01:51 <meglaw> u know it

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02:35 <quail> &wx ypad

02:35 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 102°F / 39°C | Humidity: 6% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 5:30 PM CST; Clear. High:100 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:100 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:98 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F.;

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03:42 <efc> remoo cfl

03:44 <CoderForLife> hey efc

03:44 <CoderForLife> my connection didn't survive the overnight split

03:45 <efc> mine neither

03:49 <efc> I'm looking at more odd bits of hardware

03:54 <efc> threaded rods and accessories

03:54 <CoderForLife> hmm

03:55 <CoderForLife> making a steampunk telescope?

03:56 <efc> Something for linear motion

03:56 * FreeLarry58 imagines telescope using stam piston houseing from old locomotive

03:56 <efc> lastest plan for telescope is duct piping

03:57 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

03:57 <FreeLarry58> k

03:58 * FreeLarry58 vista in normally condition again --- down - trying a repair of install again

04:00 * FreeLarry58 seems like the machine crashes around 2 am - sometimes in morning when i get up it reboots fine and then like today will never run longer than 5 minutes no matter how many restarts

04:02 <efc> vista needs the Nancy Reagan treatment

04:02 <efc> Just Say No

04:03 <FreeLarry58> yeah - now if only could get a different os to install on that machine would be nice

04:06 <CoderForLife> bwb

04:06 <CoderForLife> do you have automatic updates turned on FreeLarry58?

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04:19 <efc> Message From Server No Jobs Available ..

04:22 <CoderForLife> economic downturn?

04:22 <efc> Computational Crisis

04:23 <CoderForLife> You need a WU bailout?

04:25 <efc> 800,000,000,000 WUs prz

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04:46 <CoderForLife> need to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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05:19 <FreeLarry58> have nice day CoderForLife and yes turned on but notify for install

05:21 <FreeLarry58> humm think will replace the ati vid card with nvidia and reinstall drivers from scratch

05:21 <FreeLarry58> but after i get up

05:22 <FreeLarry58> tired of trying to get it to run - runs in safe mode till start of boinc - was stable till updates on the 24th installed now just crashes shortly after boinc startup version 6.4.5

05:23 * FreeLarry58 should say semi stable in fact it would run at least a day between crashes

05:23 <CoderForLife> time to start toward the door - about 3 inches of snow has fallen overnight

05:23 <Tidus> lucky you

05:23 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:23 <Tidus> it was 3 inches of ice here

05:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 20.3F / -6.5C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow...mixing with sleet this afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Highs in the mid 20s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Tonight - A mixture of sleet snow and (2 more messages)

05:24 <CoderForLife> &more

05:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: freezing rain in the evening...changing back to snow overnight. Snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 6 inches. Ice accumulation between one and two tenths of an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy. Snow in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Total snow accumulation of 6 to 11 inches. Near (1 more message)

05:24 <CoderForLife> &more

05:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: steady temperatures in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on January 28, 2009;

05:24 <CoderForLife> 11 inches of white and clear crap

05:24 <Tidus> took me a little bit over an hour to get my car cleared off after w&^%

05:25 <CoderForLife> I'm about to venture out

05:25 <Tidus> had a solid inch of ice on the car

05:25 <CoderForLife> my car is in the garage

05:25 <Tidus> i was at w*&^

05:25 <CoderForLife> an absolute law when I bought the house

05:25 <CoderForLife> cars go into the garage

05:26 <Tidus> no garage where i live

05:26 <CoderForLife> cardboard boxes will have to find another place to live

05:26 <CoderForLife> laterz

05:26 <Tidus> cya

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06:28 <hawmps> 'lo

06:29 <hawmps> spork >> 222.73.0.104

06:44 <hawmps> &wx 12020

06:44 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 7.0F / -13.9C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 20s. West winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then cloudy with snow after midnight. Snow accumulation around an inch. Lows around 12. Light and variable winds. (1 more message)

06:44 <hawmps> &more

06:44 <Romulus> hawmps: Chance of snow 90 percent.; Wednesday - Snow. Additional snow accumulation of 5 to 10 inches. Highs in the mid 20s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 12:00 AM EST on January 29, 2009;

06:51 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 6.7F / -14.1C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Early This Morning - Cloudy with a 20 percent chance of light snow. North wind near 5 mph.; Today - Cloudy. A chance of light snow in the morning...then a slight chance of light snow in the afternoon. High around 15. North wind (1 more message)

06:51 <wdsmia> &more

06:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: near 5 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Low zero to 5 above. Southwest wind near 5 mph.;

07:47 <quail> &wx ypad

07:47 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 93°F / 34°C | Humidity: 11% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM CST; Clear. High:100 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:100 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:98 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:80 F.;

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08:54 <hawmps> nice winter storm warning...

08:57 <quail> &wx ypad

08:57 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 89°F / 32°C | Humidity: 7% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:98 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:100 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:84 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:98 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:82 F.;

08:57 <quail> can I have your winter?

08:57 <hawmps> just a bit toasty there..

08:59 <quail> it 0028 hours and still 32C

08:59 <hawmps> something in the middle would be nicer...

08:59 <hawmps> and hey.. you could live in Darwin

08:59 <quail> yeah

08:59 <hawmps> 100F and 100% humid

09:00 <quail> it only going to get hotter this week

09:00 <quail> and it got to 39C here today

09:00 <quail> ~102F

09:01 <quail> the older I getting the more I disliking the heat

09:04 <quail> so how you been Jay?

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09:14 <hawmps> good enough

09:21 <hawmps> getting a bit tired of winter

09:22 <mchelen> we just got snow here!

09:23 <mchelen> for the 2nd time all season

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09:25 <quail> well you welcome to our heat wave

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09:31 <hawmps> where, mchelen?

09:31 <mchelen> maryland

09:31 <hawmps> you're gonna get more...

09:31 <mchelen> its pretty, kind of messing up traffic though

09:32 <hawmps> &wx Mount Airy

09:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

09:32 <hawmps> &wx BWI

09:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 27F / -3C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Rest of Today - Snow. Sleet this afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs in the lower 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Snow and sleet in the evening...sleet and (2 more messages)

09:32 <hawmps> &more

09:32 <Romulus> hawmps: freezing rain after midnight. Additional snow and sleet accumulation around an inch. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Ice accumulation around a tenth of an inch. Lows in the upper 20s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday - Freezing rain and rain in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Ice accumulation less than one tenth of an inch. Highs (1 more message)

09:32 <hawmps> &more

09:32 <Romulus> hawmps: in the upper 30s. East winds around 5 mph... becoming north in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Winter Weather Advisory for Anne Arundel County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on January 28, 2009;

09:33 <hawmps> yeah.. that'll mess up your day...

09:33 <mchelen> 2-4 inches is a big difference

09:33 <hawmps> we're looking at 6-12+

09:34 <mchelen> probably tomorrow morning will suck here, it will melt a little and freeze

09:34 <mchelen> wheres that?

09:34 <mchelen> drivers around here suck with snow

09:36 <hawmps> same everywhere..

09:41 <Hodapp> if I was riding with my dad, he'd insist it's only the Asians and women.

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10:08 <hawmps> lol

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10:58 <hawmps> looking more like the 12+ at the moment

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12:00 <hawmps> I think the internet just crashed... completely

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12:16 <Tank_Master> the internet crashed?

12:16 <Tank_Master> been a while since that happened

12:17 <PovAdct_w> is someone DDoSing the root DNS servers?

12:18 <PovAdct_w> (that happened once, but the attack didn't last long enough to cause problems, DNS caches elsewhere didn't expire)

12:18 <Nickuwo> I think MTughan did it.

12:18 <MTughan> Win7 keeps disconnecting me.

12:18 <MTughan> And wb Nickuwo.

12:18 <Nickuwo> hehe

12:19 <Tank_Master> Nickuwo!

12:19 <Nickuwo> hey MT. win 7 eh?

12:19 <MTughan> Yeah.

12:19 <Tank_Master> odd

12:19 <Nickuwo> Tank!

12:19 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 33.1F / 0.6C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light snow developing after 7 am...then mixing with or turning to sleet and occasional light freezing rain later this morning. Then rain this afternoon. Snow accumulations generally around 1 inch...but locally near 2 (2 more messages)

12:19 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:19 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 33.1F / 0.6C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light snow developing after 7 am...then mixing with or turning to sleet and occasional light freezing rain later this morning. Then rain this afternoon. Snow accumulations generally around 1 inch...but locally near 2 (2 more messages)

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 33.1F / 0.6C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Light snow developing after 7 am...then mixing with or turning to sleet and occasional light freezing rain later this morning. Then rain this afternoon. Snow accumulations generally around 1 inch...but locally near 2 (2 more messages)

12:19 <Tank_Master> &more

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: inches. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast wind 10 mph...but east 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge. Winds becoming southwest 10 to 15 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Showers in the evening...decreasing after midnight. Lows around 35. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. Slight chance of showers. Highs around 45. Light wind.; Winter Weather Advisory for Washington County in effect (1 more message)

12:19 <Tank_Master> &more

12:19 <Romulus> Tank_Master: until 2:00 PM PST on January 27, 2009;

12:20 <Tank_Master> its sure snowing now

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12:21 * Tank_Master wonders if all schools are canceled yet

12:21 <MTughan> Clear but cold here.

12:21 <MTughan> &wx YOW

12:21 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 10°F / -12°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.50in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM EST; Today - Sunny. High -10C(14F).; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. 40 percent chance of flurries overnight. Low -14C(6F).; Wednesday - Snow. Amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). High -9C(15F).;

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13:33 <hawmps> hmmm.. now possible 12-16"

13:35 <ELGono> we have 1-2" .... pure ice on everything

13:38 <hawmps> kde 4.2 released

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14:04 <hawmps> lol:

14:04 <hawmps> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483477,00.html

14:04 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/azy89a> (at www.foxnews.com)

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14:25 <Tidus> so yeah i'm officially snowed/iced in.

14:28 <Tidus> i put my car in gear to see if it'll even move, the tires just sit there and spin without giving it any gas.

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14:38 <hawmps> how much did you get?

14:38 <Tidus> 3 inches and counting

14:39 <Tidus> and it's layered all funky too. freezing rain -> ice -> sleet -> a little snow -> some more sleet -> a little more snow -> more freezing rain coming down now

14:40 <Tidus> so it's all going to be packed into one solid sheet of ice before long

14:41 <PovAddict> "sheet"?

14:41 <PovAddict> not "block"?

14:41 <Tidus> yeah... my car's the block

14:41 <Tidus> the road's a sheet

14:41 <PovAddict> lol

14:47 <PovAddict> hawmps: f-secure won't move away from the position of "nooo it would be highly irresponsible for us to disinfect the machines, even though we technically can"

14:50 <hawmps> somebody sheet on your road?

14:51 <meglaw_> hehe

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15:06 <PovAddict> I actually laughed out loud...

15:06 <PovAddict> "Microsoft admits that Linux is cheaper than Windows since it is willing to "investigate" this over and over again until it gets the results it wants."

15:10 <PovAddict> I can't believe people file bugs in Trac mistyping "boinc", when they have the damn name in a big logo in the same page

15:10 <hawmps> They like "Binky" better

15:11 <Soul_keeper> lol

15:11 <Soul_keeper> there used to be a clown named boink

15:11 <hawmps> clowns also taste funny.

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15:20 <Soul_keeper> i remember now, and he had a side kick named doink

15:20 <Soul_keeper> doink was a midget clown

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15:34 <meglaw_> time for shimps, swedish style http://www.cafegyllen.se/Rkmacka.jpg

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15:49 <xcamel> re-hi

15:50 <CoderForLife> hi - home early

15:51 <CoderForLife> freezing rain - just changing to sleet as I pulled in

15:51 <CoderForLife> probably about 3 inches of snow on the ground

15:51 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

15:51 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 25.5F / -3.6C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Freezing Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Snow...sleet and freezing rain. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Ice accumulation of a tenth to one quarter of an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)

15:51 <CoderForLife> ack - ice

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15:51 <xcamel> nice mess, eh?

15:52 <CoderForLife> big time

15:52 <CoderForLife> hope the power stays on

15:52 <CoderForLife> &more

15:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday - Snow...freezing rain and sleet in the morning...then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Total snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 9 inches. Ice accumulation around a trace. Highs in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Colder with lows 10 to 15. West winds around 5 mph.; (1 more message)

15:52 <CoderForLife> &more

15:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Winter Storm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on January 28, 2009;

15:52 <CoderForLife> &nomoreplease

15:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

15:52 <xcamel> you donwanna know what we're in for..

15:53 <CoderForLife> you always do it up big time

15:53 <xcamel> we could get 12-16"

15:53 <CoderForLife> yiped

15:53 <CoderForLife> er yipes

15:54 <CoderForLife> I'll be snow-throwing here in a bit

15:54 <CoderForLife> driveway is untouched

15:54 <CoderForLife> except vehicle traffic packing it down

15:55 <CoderForLife> changing out of w@#% prison stripes - bbiab

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16:13 <Tank_Master> hf

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16:23 <CoderForLife> to dinner - re-bbiab

16:26 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/WiFi-Security-Paint-Home,news-3363.html

16:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cs6hst> (at www.tomsguide.com)

16:26 <Soul_keeper> lol wifi resistant paint

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16:29 <Tank_Master> maketing departmelt must have been in overdrive to come up with that

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16:43 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/USA-Military-Security-MP3,news-3361.html

16:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bxkns6> (at www.tomsguide.com)

16:46 <Soul_keeper> "Video game sales

16:46 <Soul_keeper> were up 20 percent over 2007, amounting to $32 billion in sales. Movies saw $29 billion in sales, a six percent drop from 2007."

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16:49 <CoderForLife> dinner done - time to saddle up the snow thrower

16:49 <CoderForLife> I'm going to start it for the first time this season - apologies xcamel

16:49 <CoderForLife> bbl in victory or frustration

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16:57 <xcamel_> lvm reload

17:01 <CoderForLife> off to do battle - bbl

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17:12 <MTughan> Holy crap... http://techreport.com/articles.x/16291

17:14 <MTughan> What happens when you put 4 Intel X25-Extremes in RAID 0?

17:15 <PovAddict> I hate articles that are split in a zillion pages

17:15 <PovAddict> this isn't a book people, this is the web! we have scrollbars!

17:15 <Hodapp> "Read further to find out why  PREVIOUS PAGE / NEXT PAGE"

17:16 <xcamel> and an index finger...

17:16 <PovAddict> "further"?

17:17 <MTughan> http://techreport.com/articles.x/16291/6 <- Where stuff starts to get interesting... Quite interesting.

17:17 <Romulus> Title: A look at four X25-E Extreme SSDs in RAID - The Tech Report - Page 6 (at techreport.com)

17:20 <PovAddict> !

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17:38 <xcamel> well well..

17:38 <xcamel> this make sense to anyone else?

17:39 <xcamel> http://blog.kyodium.net/2009/01/remove-drive-from-existing-lvm.html

17:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/adygks> (at blog.kyodium.net)

17:49 <FreeLarry58> humm xcamel just sounds like he's describing how he move data from a hd he was removing to another one that was in machine.  Hopefully without damaging any of the systems settings so usage could continue

17:49 <xcamel> this I knew

17:49 <FreeLarry58> weather he going to install a new hd where he took the old one out is not mentioned but that the only thing i could make out

17:50 <FreeLarry58> think he will see a slowdown of system tho as calls will now be to one hd instead of 2 or 3

17:53 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:54 * FreeLarry58 wonders how long vista can run without boinc starting - was going to reinstall boinc but every time i try to connect to internet machine crashes

17:54 <FreeLarry58> howdy doug

17:54 <wdsmia> *lo Larry

17:56 <wdsmia> 10th place at prime grid challenge

17:57 <xcamel> I basically need to do the same thing

18:00 <wdsmia> make that 9th place at prime grid challenge

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18:07 <FreeLarry58> humm didn't get involved with prime challenge this time - didn't hear about it in time

18:07 <FreeLarry58> i should have been around position 10000

18:09 <FreeLarry58> dang did a repair install of boinc and as soon as finished the machine locked up upon boinc start

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18:15 <FreeLarry58> well version 6.4.5 x64 doesn't appear to work on vista anymore as keeps crashing machine when started - is 6.6.2 stable enough to try or should i go back to earlier version?

18:16 <PovAddict> 6.4.5 was already... flaky

18:17 <PovAddict> judging from recent code changes and the mess in boinc_dev mailing list, 6.5/6.6 are *volatile*, not unstable

18:17 <wdsmia> make that 8th place at prime grid challenge :-)

18:18 <PovAddict> shake a bit and they blow up (or stop fetching work, or fetch too much, or cause idle resources)

18:18 <PovAddict> but blow-up is probably possible too :)

18:18 <FreeLarry58> lol so PovAddict recommends earlier version - humm vista crashing without boinc running now so not sure

18:19 <FreeLarry58> maybe is should try to make a new disk of linux to install on that machine and forget fista entirely - assuming it would install

18:19 <PovAddict> did you do a ram check on that?

18:20 <PovAddict> it seems to be crashing way too much from what you tell :)

18:21 <FreeLarry58> yup ram checks good - might be the ati card but tried replacing it also with nvidia card and same results

18:21 <FreeLarry58> replaced hd same results

18:23 <PovAddict> then yeah try a real operating system

18:23 <FreeLarry58> hopefully can find an iso that actually will burn and install correctly f9 didn't nomatter where i dl'ed from

18:25 <FreeLarry58> beginning to suspect a possible timing problem occuring with the onboard nic - may try a new card instead and disable the onboard connection

18:36 <CoderForLife> back

18:36 <xcamel> you-duggum-out?

18:36 <CoderForLife> hmm about 1.5 hours

18:36 <CoderForLife> yetthur

18:36 <xcamel> yeee-haw

18:36 <CoderForLife> my hands are all tingly

18:37 <xcamel> that bein from uppin her in 'new montana'

18:37 <CoderForLife> heh

18:37 <CoderForLife> my first skirmish with White Death, and I won

18:38 <CoderForLife> cleared the main drive from my garage door to the street, and the next door neighbors' drive

18:38 <wdsmia> make that 4th place at prime grid challenge :-)

18:38 <PovAddict> wdsmia: wow

18:38 <PovAddict> what subproject?

18:38 <CoderForLife> even did the thing wdsmia likes the most - cleared the snow plow pile

18:39 <wdsmia> 321 Prime Search (LLR) application

18:40 * wdsmia hates snow plow piles

18:40 <PovAddict> wdsmia: when does it end?

18:40 <wdsmia> 31 Jan 2009 18:00 UTC

18:40 <CoderForLife> dang - 332 spam e-mails came through today

18:40 <PovAddict> cool

18:40 <PovAddict> how is its RAM usage?

18:40 <wdsmia> TFFE is in 8th

18:41 <PovAddict> I have control over a few 24/7 machines with not enough ram...

18:41 <PovAddict> and my home machine is off tomorrow night

18:41 <PovAddict> and will be for 3 weeks

18:42 <wdsmia> I have it running on a few 512MB HT's

18:42 <PovAddict> I'm talking "low RAM" as in 256 or 192MB

18:46 <CoderForLife> I need to drop "mail" as a valid mail account - can I do that?

18:46 <PovAddict> ?

18:46 <PovAddict> mail@yourdomainname.com?

18:46 <CoderForLife> yes

18:46 <CoderForLife> how can I reject mail to "mail"

18:46 <PovAddict> I don't think there is any requirement for that to exist...

18:46 <PovAddict> ah reject

18:47 <PovAddict> I have no idea how to admin a mailserver

18:47 <CoderForLife> well, can I deluser mail?

18:47 <PovAddict> mail accounts are mapped to system accounts?

18:47 <PovAddict> I'd think the mailserver *runs as* mail, so by deleting it you'd break stuff

18:47 <CoderForLife> afaik all mail from system goes to root

18:48 <CoderForLife> no processes running under user mail

18:49 <CoderForLife> ps -u mail

18:49 <CoderForLife> no processes

18:49 <CoderForLife> ps -u root

18:49 <CoderForLife> =lots

18:53 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news January 27, 2009

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19:03 <PovAddict> &money convert 36.95 usd ars

19:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

19:03 <PovAddict> &currency convert 36.95 usd ars

19:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: 36.95 usd = 128.68 ars

19:03 <PovAddict> &alias add money currency $*

19:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

19:03 <PovAddict> &money convert 36.95 usd ars

19:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: 36.95 usd = 128.68 ars

19:05 <Tank_Master> ars?

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19:06 <PovAddict> AR$

19:06 <xcamel> argintine dinars

19:06 <Tank_Master> ahh

19:08 <xcamel> I have 85% free space, but I'm still too stupid to figure out how to move all the extents off /dev/sdd to the free part of the LV

19:09 <KathrynM> *sigh*

19:09 <KathrynM> Off to the germ factory

19:09 <PovAddict> :/

19:09 <PovAddict> bye

19:09 <KathrynM> I did get my contacts in today

19:10 <xcamel> seems most of what I **think** would work seems to be "destructive"

19:10 <KathrynM> so maybe that means it'll be a good day

19:10 <KathrynM> laters

19:10 <Tank_Master> hf!

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19:21 <CoderForLife> hooray - it works

19:26 <CoderForLife> that should start blocking e-mail to mail@mydomain.com

19:26 <CoderForLife> I got about 200-some today

19:27 <CoderForLife> now if I could only get one of these  http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/01/autonomous_snow_shovel_robot.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890

19:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/b28t8u> (at blog.makezine.com)

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19:27 * wdsmia wants one

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19:29 <xcamel> lvm is going to be the death of me..

19:29 <wdsmia> lol sorry Jay

19:30 <xcamel> what I have, and what is says makes no sense

19:31 <CoderForLife> looks like I had a peak today of 869 e-mails per hour

19:31 <CoderForLife> in-bound

19:32 <wdsmia> open it up to the world... and the world will spam you

19:33 <xcamel> pvmove should work, but noooooo. that would be too easy...

19:34 <CoderForLife> I'll toss my old seti e-mail account into the ash can of sendmail forgetfullness as well

19:38 <CoderForLife> success - this calls for a grape soda

19:40 <CoderForLife> my actual count of spam messages that "got thru" today was 396

19:42 <CoderForLife> couch time - laterz

19:45 <FreeLarry58> humm maybe thats whats causing vista to crash all the time - started resource monitor and see defrag running

19:48 <quail> &wx ypad

19:48 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 106°F / 41°C | Humidity: 10% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM CST; Unknown. High:87 F.; Clear. Low:78 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:100 F.; Overcast. Low:82 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:100 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:82 F.;

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19:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 9.9F / -12.3C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. North wind near 5 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Scattered flurries in the evening. Low zero (1 more message)

19:50 <wdsmia> &more

19:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 5 above. Southwest wind near 5 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 20s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.;

19:52 <xcamel> at least it's a bit warmer here..

19:52 <xcamel> &wx 12074

19:52 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 17.0F / -8.3C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then cloudy with snow after midnight. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Lows around 14. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast after midnight. Chance of snow 80 percent.; Wednesday (2 more messages)

19:52 <xcamel> &more

19:52 <Romulus> xcamel: - Snow. Sleet in the afternoon. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Ice accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Highs in the upper 20s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Wednesday Night - Freezing rain...snow and sleet likely in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Total snow accumulation of 6 to 12 inches possible. Ice (1 more message)

19:53 <xcamel> &more

19:53 <Romulus> xcamel: accumulation of up to one tenth of an inch. Brisk with lows around 19. North winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph...increasing to west 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 6:00 AM EST on January 29, 2009;

19:53 <wdsmia> sux 2BU

19:53 <xcamel> ya think?

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20:57 <xcamel> boodah boodah

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21:21 <xcamel> ?

21:21 <FreeLarry58> you trying to scare the snow away jay?

21:21 <FreeLarry58> it worked for here

21:22 <xcamel> I wish

21:22 <FreeLarry58> lol

21:24 <xcamel> Looks like a major ice storm along the miss near MO, AR, and KY

21:27 <FreeLarry58> yuck had a little snow this am but gone by noon

21:27 <FreeLarry58> roads wet and hope we don't get to cold tonight or blackice will be all over

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21:34 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

21:34 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 37.4F / 3.0C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of showers...except showers likely north of Seattle. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Highs in the upper 30s to mid (1 more message)

21:35 <FreeLarry58> &more

21:35 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: 40s. West wind to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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21:56 <xcamel> well it looks like this run of 'badblocks' is gonna take a while

21:57 <xcamel> so laterz..

21:57 * xcamel is away: I'm busy

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22:36 <MTughan> http://techreport.com/gallery/index.x?id=16229&image=33754

22:36 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/clfmka> (at techreport.com)

22:36 <PovAddict> o_O

22:37 <PovAddict> I'm serious...

22:37 <PovAddict> that can't be faster than a CPU

22:37 <PovAddict> CPUs probably can do more floating point operations per watt of heat than that beast

22:37 <MTughan> It's not a Nvidia card though. It's a Radeon HD4870 X2.

22:37 <PovAddict> it takes up THREE expansion slots in the back of the computer case?!

22:37 <MTughan> Big cooler. xD

22:38 <PovAddict> if it heats so much it needs that kind of cooler, They're Doing It Wrong

22:38 <MTughan> http://techreport.com/gallery/index.x?id=16229&image=33758 <- Same card, different cooler.

22:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/azm8hp> (at techreport.com)

22:38 <PovAddict> I saw a power usage comparison... the biggest GPU listed used 500 watts

22:38 <PovAddict> I bet my whole computer doesn't use that much

22:38 <MTughan> Oh, you haven'

22:38 <MTughan> ..'t seen this yet...

22:39 <MTughan> http://techreport.com/articles.x/16229/13

22:39 <Romulus> Title: Nvidia's GeForce GTX 285 and 295 graphics cards - The Tech Report - Page 13 (at techreport.com)

22:39 <MTughan> System uses 529W under load.

22:39 <MTughan> Well, GTX 285 SLI does.

22:39 <PovAddict> "The idle measurements were taken at the Windows Vista desktop with the Aero theme enabled."

22:39 <PovAddict> what kind of stupidity is that...

22:39 <PovAddict> Aero enabled to test idle?

22:40 * MTughan shrugs

22:40 <MTughan> The load temperatures are more interesting.

22:40 <MTughan> Considering that's not even CUDA or Furmark.

22:41 <PovAddict> "These peak temperatures near 100°C were logged just before the system locked up."

22:41 <MTughan> It's a flaw with Asus coolers.

22:41 <PovAddict> GPUs are seriously going the wrong direction

22:41 <PovAddict> they shouldn't be heating that much!

22:41 <MTughan> When in Crossfire, the top card using Asus's cooler can't get enough fresh air.

22:41 <MTughan> It's basically sucking the heat off the bottom GPU.

22:42 <PovAddict> I want some good stats on SETI credits per watt, comparing CPUs and CUDA GPUs

22:43 <efc> I'm obliged to link to this again. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1473/bfast3gcw3.jpg

22:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/dkvhd6> (at img440.imageshack.us)

22:43 <PovAddict> lol

22:44 <MTughan> efc: Pfft. That holds nothing to the current cards. :P

22:44 <efc> its still bigger

22:45 <efc> i have some old memory boards that are about half that long

22:45 <MTughan> Half as long as the "Bitchin' Fast"?

22:45 <efc> yeah

22:46 <MTughan> Hmm... Is that an IDE connecter I see on the top-left of the card, by the PCI shield?

22:46 <efc> In the benchmarks, that card kicked the crap out of the Oscar-Meyer 3DFrenzy

22:47 <MTughan> rofl... Just thinking how much heat that would produce and how much power it'

22:47 <MTughan> ..'d need with today's GPUs...

22:47 <MTughan> Why is the Enter key so close to the apostrophe...

22:49 <PovAddict> pretty far here

22:49 <PovAddict> although I have problems with backspace being too close

22:49 <meglaw_> fast calc, my 8800gt does just as mutch (in credits) as a c2d @3.4GHz, a athlonxp at 2.5ghz and a p4 @ 2.4ghz

22:49 <efc> MTughan: Solution: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c340/davemarkowitz/pirates/pirate_keyboard.jpg

22:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yvrvx2> (at i30.photobucket.com)

22:49 <meglaw_> it takes 150-170w loaded with games, same temp as far as i can tell

22:50 <MTughan> efc: Then the "R" is too close! :P

22:50 <meglaw_> so u guess thats about half of what the cpu´s take doing cycles

22:50 <PovAddict> I saw a keyboard with only ctrl, alt, and delete

22:50 <efc> Arrrrgh.

22:50 <MTughan> No A on there.

22:50 <meglaw_> all those cpu´s are at about 100w fulload

22:51 <MTughan> Is an 8800GT representative of today's GPUs, in terms of power usage and speeds?

22:52 <MTughan> I'm thinking a 9800GT(X) or a GTX 2xx card.

22:52 <meglaw_> maby not the top end but thay sold a few million of them

22:52 <meglaw_> those 2xx can be crazy, 250-300w doing 3mark

22:52 <MTughan> And the 8xxx series are very close to 9xxx series too... All right, that should work.

22:52 <MTughan> How much power does your 8800GT take on SETI?

22:53 <meglaw_> have only tested on 6.06, and that was about 100w

22:53 <MTughan> Ubuntu 6.06?

22:53 <meglaw_> no, seti@home.enhanced.whatever.6.06.

22:53 <MTughan> Or is that application version?

22:54 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

22:54 <meglaw_> first cuda version. :)

22:54 <MTughan> See, I don't own a Nvidia card. I'm waiting for ATI apps so I can unleash my 4870. :)

22:54 <meglaw_> sell it, get a 9600

22:55 <meglaw_> i get 1200-1800 credits per day only from my 8800

22:55 <MTughan> It can do more work than a 280.

22:55 <meglaw_> well right now it cant do any seti work

22:55 <MTughan> Someone has an application for Milkyway, and AI is developing their own.

22:55 <MTughan> Well, my 3.18GHz quad takes care of that for now. :)

22:55 <meglaw_> i´d like someone smart at cern to patch cuda for thair client

22:56 <PovAddict> LHC?

22:56 <Romulus> LHC is responding slowly, PovAddict

22:56 <meglaw_> my dad is in charge of something about 200 computer, education..

22:57 <meglaw_> next time thay get new boxes he is gonna get cuda compatible

22:57 <meglaw_> i wish i could have those cycles..

22:57 <meglaw_> large hadron collider

22:57 <MTughan> When I was building the system, I was comparing between a Radeon HD4870 and a GeForce 9800GTX+. The 4870 seemed to have better performance overall, although I'd have to wait on BOINC.

22:58 <meglaw_> what u pay per kWh

22:58 <MTughan> Dunno, university pays it.

22:59 <meglaw_> nice.

22:59 <meglaw_> im on 1.3 SEK

23:02 <efc> Wow, I'm paying 19.5 cents/KWH all total..

23:03 <meglaw_> what

23:04 <meglaw_> were u live

23:04 <efc> Georgia, US

23:04 <meglaw_> thats cheap power

23:04 <efc> i'm in a coop and I think they charge like $20 just to have a hookup and then some lowish rate like 7 cents after that

23:05 <efc> Used 230 KWHr

23:05 <meglaw_> i use about 8000kWh per year

23:06 * PovAddict goes to spain tomorrow night

23:06 <meglaw_> gl

23:06 <efc> I switched the lighting I use a lot to CFLs, didn't put a dent in my bill

23:07 <meglaw_> im of to bed. gn.

23:07 <efc> Night

23:07 <efc> What for Pov?

23:07 <PovAddict> vacation \o/

23:07 <PovAddict> 3 weeks

23:09 <Soul_keeper> my killawatt is saying i'm using 979KWH  on this system

23:09 <PovAddict> 979 kwh after how much time?

23:10 <Soul_keeper> i'm not sure

23:10 <PovAddict> or do you mean 979W? (or 979kW which would be totally completely insane)

23:10 <Soul_keeper> 20:06:30 up 44 days, 19:19,  6 users,  load average: 4.10, 4.12, 4.06

23:10 <Soul_keeper> it's been plugged into the this for months i believe

23:11 <Soul_keeper> so if it's pulling 220 watts constantly for an hour   how many KWHs is that ?

23:12 <PovAddict> compare w with km/h (speed) and kwh with km (distance)... watts tell you how electricity something is using, kwh tell you the total consumption over some period of time

23:13 <efc> That would be 0.22 KWHrs

23:13 <PovAddict> note that it's *not* "kW per hour"

23:13 <PovAddict> "the kWh is the *product* of power in kilowatts multiplied by time in hours; it is not kW/h."

23:14 <PovAddict> "The SI (International System of Units) unit of energy is the joule (J), equal to one watt-second; one kilowatt-hour is exactly 3.6 megajoules, which is the amount of energy expended (or dissipated) if work is done at a constant rate of one thousand watts for one hour."

23:14 <Soul_keeper> ok

23:14 <PovAddict> it's all a mess -_-

23:16 <efc> &math convert 5 kilowatthour to horsepowerfortnight

23:16 <Romulus> efc: Error: horsepowerfortnight is not a valid unit.

23:16 <efc> lame

23:18 <PovAddict> &google calc 5 kilowatt hour to horsepower fortnight

23:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: 5 kilowatt hours = 0.0199556859 horsepower fortnight

23:18 <Soul_keeper> there is another display on the thing if i press the button twice it seems   4777 KWH TIME

23:18 <Soul_keeper> i'm assuming that's hours ...

23:19 <Soul_keeper> 199 days ....

23:19 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

23:20 <efc> You can't figure the time from the just the total KWHr. It could be a LED for a million years or a plastic plant for 0.4 seconds.

23:20 <MTughan> I just think how can I wring more performance (credits) from my existing hardware.

23:21 <PovAddict> liquid nitrogen

23:21 <PovAddict> and insane overclocking

23:21 <PovAddict> ?

23:21 <MTughan> Anyway, I need food... bbl

23:21 <MTughan> Actually, interesting thing...

23:21 <Soul_keeper> well i'm trying to figure out how many KWH i'll be charged for each month

23:21 <MTughan> Apparently my roommate found 500L containers of liquid nitrogen locked up behind an engineering building.

23:21 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: then you need to know how many months that kWh measure is for

23:21 <MTughan> He wanted me to use it. :P

23:21 <PovAddict> or, how many *watts* it's using

23:22 <Soul_keeper> CLOCK  4777 KWH TIME

23:22 <MTughan> Anyway, bbl

23:22 <Soul_keeper> using 220watts

23:23 <efc> Its great for blowing up various bottles and containers.

23:23 <Soul_keeper> 979 kwh this should relate to the  4777 KWH time in some way

23:24 <PovAddict> 220 watts, ok, I think you can multiply by 30*24 (hours in a month) and you'd get watt-hours; divide by 1000 and you get... 158 kWh per month? does that sound right?

23:25 <Soul_keeper> that would mean i've had the device plugged in for 6.2 months could be

23:25 <Soul_keeper> yeah

23:26 <Soul_keeper> 30*24*6.2 = 4464

23:26 <Soul_keeper> about 4777   would account for times i had the system down or not under full load :)

23:26 <Soul_keeper> thanks, i got it all figured out now

23:28 <Soul_keeper> so between my 3 system i could be looking at about  375kWh per month

23:31 <Soul_keeper> so about 75 bucks a month assuming 20 cents per kWh

23:33 <Soul_keeper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYTz1PVh06U&feature=related    college students don't pass the muster

23:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/55wdcl> (at www.youtube.com)

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23:47 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, i'm in the lead

23:47 <MTughan> I'm working with a dual-core ATM.

23:47 <MTughan> Nor surprising.

23:47 <MTughan> Not*

23:47 <Soul_keeper> what happened to the quad ?

23:47 <MTughan> Hmm, odd... Do you have the links again? I seem to have lost them.

23:47 <MTughan> The quad had it's PSU killed.

23:48 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/boincrace/test2.png

23:48 <Soul_keeper> don't let me win

23:48 <MTughan> It'll be up by the end of the week.

23:48 <MTughan> You also have GPUGRID.

23:48 <Soul_keeper> if you let me win i won't have a reason to upgrade next month or something

23:49 <MTughan> My dad's bringing out a new PSU on Saturday. So if I don't have the machine up by the end of that day (unlikely), it'll be up by Sunday.

23:50 <Soul_keeper> cool

23:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah GPUgrid is accounting for over 1/2 my RAC

23:51 <MTughan> Exactly. I just CPU projects ATM, although that'll probably change soon.

23:51 <Soul_keeper> i can only imagine what the newest cards would put out   geeze

23:52 <MTughan> Apparently an ATI app can do Milkyway units in 8 seconds on a Radeon HD4870.

23:52 <Soul_keeper> 112 SPs versus the 216 or 240 in the others

23:52 <Soul_keeper> windows only tho right ?

23:52 <MTughan> Prolly.

23:53 <MTughan> Although if the library is available for Linux, it should be simple enough to port/recompile it for Linux.

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