00:03 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Ducklings (at www.xkcd.com)
00:10 <efc> Have to figure they are paying commercial rates for electricity, higher than residential
00:11 <jasong> hmmmm, true
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01:54 <jasong> Good Lord, I'm an idiot
01:54 <jasong> I've been struggling to update my system for the past couple days
01:54 <jasong> Turns out the solution is...Wait for it
01:54 <jasong> yum update yum
01:55 <jasong> Then everything else just updates
01:55 * jasong bangs his head against the wall
01:55 <jasong> ooh, maybe not
01:55 <jasong> We'll see
02:12 <efc> Night
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03:20 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
03:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Numerous snow showers...then scattered snow showers late. Snow accumulation less than an inch. Lows 15 to 20. West winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance (1 more message)
03:20 <CoderForLife> &more
03:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of snow showers. Highs in the lower 20s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of snow showers in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Much colder with lows 0 to 5 above. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent. Wind chill as low as 10 below after midnight.;
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03:35 <CoderForLife> plink 22.214.171.124
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06:13 <CoderForLife> off to the salt mine - need some more around here
06:18 <Soul_keeper> Last Result:
06:18 <Soul_keeper> Download Speed: 33756 kbps (4219.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
06:18 <Soul_keeper> Upload Speed: 5304 kbps (663 KB/sec transfer rate)
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06:31 <hawmps> sporks >> 126.96.36.199, 188.8.131.52, 184.108.40.206
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06:33 <zombie67> how do I reset my LTD for a project again?
06:34 <Soul_keeper> depends what the acrinym is :)
06:34 <zombie67> Long Term Debt
06:35 <Soul_keeper> client_state.xml
06:35 <Soul_keeper> <long_term_debt>0</long_term_debt>
06:37 <zombie67> thanks!
06:37 <Soul_keeper> appears to be one for each project in there
06:38 <Soul_keeper> np
06:49 <Romulus> Title: distributed.net: Project RC5 (at www.distributed.net)
06:50 <Soul_keeper> you can apparently win money if you crack the key
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07:07 <zombie67> well not exactly. You can run their app directly, of course
07:07 <zombie67> or you can run their projects in BOINC via yoyo@home
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07:09 <Soul_keeper> interesting
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07:15 <zombie67> yoyo@home puts these non-BOINC projects into BOINC wrappers.
07:16 <Soul_keeper> that's good news
07:17 <Soul_keeper> anyways i guess i should go to sleep, it's past 4am :)
07:46 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 January 30 - NGC 1579: Trifid of the North (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
07:46 <hawmps> very nice
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09:39 <hawmps> &wx 12020
09:39 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 21.9°F / -5.6°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers this morning...then a chance of snow showers this afternoon. Highs in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with a 40 percent (1 more message)
09:39 <hawmps> &more
09:39 <Romulus> hawmps: chance of snow showers. Lows around 15. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A 40 percent chance of snow showers. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds 15 to 20 mph.;
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09:40 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
09:40 <MTughan> And work Doug.
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09:41 <hawmps> 'lo Mike
09:42 <MTughan> Snow let up yet?
09:43 <hawmps> long gone.. next big storm next tues/wed
09:43 <hawmps> ...could be a monster...
09:43 <MTughan> I think you sent that snow here... Not hard, but it's coming down.
09:43 <MTughan> What, the last one wasn't a monster? :P
09:43 <hawmps> it changed to sleet and cut the totals by half...
09:44 <MTughan> Did it freeze?
09:44 <hawmps> yeah.. nice crusties..
09:44 <MTughan> Hard to tell if that or the snow was better then.
09:47 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
09:47 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 48.2°F / 9.0°C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 80 to 85 in the western valleys to 71 to 76 near the foothills. Winds east 15 to 20 mph in the morning becoming light. Local gusts to 30 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 44 to 54. Winds east 15 mph.; Saturday - (1 more message)
09:47 <MTughan> 'lo SK
09:47 <Soul_keeper> Hello MTughan
09:48 <MTughan> Don't worry about my poor performance over the past couple of days... A program on my computer was stealing half of BOINC's computing power, so I'll be able to use my laptop more effectively now. :P
09:49 <Soul_keeper> good
09:49 <Soul_keeper> i need a challenge in life :)
09:49 <MTughan> And new hardware?
09:50 <Soul_keeper> not for atleast another month here
09:50 <Soul_keeper> but mind you i'm eyeing things
09:50 <Soul_keeper> maybe 2 or 3 months ...
09:50 <MTughan> Heh.
09:51 <MTughan> Looking at a 285 or 295?
09:51 <Soul_keeper> no, they pull too many watts
09:51 <Soul_keeper> i'm waiting for the 40nm shrink
09:51 <MTughan> IIRC, the 285 pulls less than the 280.
09:52 <MTughan> lol, 3W less.
09:53 <MTughan> I think they also clocked the card higher than the 280 because it pulls less, but that's still a fair amount of power.
09:53 <Soul_keeper> my "sweet spot" is around 100watts or less
09:53 <MTughan> Looks like my card pulls 131W at full load.
09:54 <Soul_keeper> my 9800GT and my 3870 each pull about 80 watts i'm happy with that
09:54 <MTughan> Not bad.
09:55 <Soul_keeper> the 55nm 9800GTX+ don't look bad tho
09:55 <MTughan> I found the GTX, where's the GTX+?
09:55 <MTughan> Oh, there it is... 80W, not bad.
09:56 <MTughan> That was the other card I was looking at when building this computer.
09:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah 55nm basically dropped it's wattage by nearly 30%
09:56 <MTughan> Hoping for something similar with 40nm?
09:56 <Soul_keeper> gtx600 55nm only pulls 112 that's not bad either i guess
09:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah
09:57 <Soul_keeper> i'd love to build an am3 system but, that might be dreaming
09:58 <MTughan> May just be "birthing pains", but I read that AM3 systems had performance lower than AM2+ systems for now.
09:58 <Soul_keeper> that would mean getting a job or something stupid :)
09:58 <Soul_keeper> we won't know untill atleast next month, but i suspect it'll be a bit faster than some suspect
09:59 <MTughan> Probably, especially with DDR3 support.
09:59 <Soul_keeper> i think 4 cores get hungry for bandwidth once you start overclocking toward 4GHz i could be wrong tho
09:59 <MTughan> Sounds right.
10:00 <Soul_keeper> i think it'll be enough to give it the edge over the c2q
10:00 <Romulus> Title: Microsoft: We've reached the 64-bit tipping point - The Tech Report (at www.techreport.com)
10:02 <Soul_keeper> i still havn't put a 64-bit environment on my main rig ...
10:02 <Soul_keeper> i'm going to take the plunge soon as slamd64 12.2 comes out tho
10:02 <MTughan> I meant that it reduces the number of Windows versions that have to be chosen from.
10:03 <Soul_keeper> yeah i ignore windows
10:03 <Soul_keeper> i forget it exists for days at a time :)
10:03 <MTughan> What's SlamD? On its website, can tell it's a Linux distro.
10:03 <Soul_keeper> it's a 64-bit version of slackware
10:04 <MTughan> Slackware doesn't have a 64-bit version?
10:04 <Soul_keeper> nope
10:04 <MTughan> Huh.
10:04 <Soul_keeper> slackware likes to remain stable above all else
10:04 <Soul_keeper> 32-bit software is still more available, stable, supported, etc. so they stick to that for now
10:05 <Soul_keeper> not that they are outdated, just a matter of choice
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10:14 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Did you know that Slamd64 has a Freenode channel?
10:15 <Soul_keeper> yes
10:15 <Soul_keeper> i go there sometimes
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10:22 <MTughan> o_O
10:45 <zombie67> yummy!
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11:06 <CoderForLife> plink 220.127.116.11
11:07 <hawmps> darn my little script works great
11:10 <hawmps> I need to add the ability to take a 'network name' though... any suggestions?
11:11 <hawmps> ie: tdev227-194.codetel.net.do in addition to '18.104.22.1683'
11:18 <Soul_keeper> what script ?
11:19 <Soul_keeper> you mean you want to query a nameserver ? resolve the hostname ? or is it running natively and you just want the local info ?
11:20 <hawmps> simple little script to add 'sporks' to iptables...
11:20 <hawmps> some are by ip, others are by network name.
11:21 <Soul_keeper> A spork, or foon, is a hybrid form of cutlery taking the form of a spoon-like shallow scoop with the addition of the tines of a fork (usually three or four) ...
11:21 <Soul_keeper> :)
11:21 <Soul_keeper> good luck
11:21 <hawmps> to 'spork' and address is to add it to the firewall blacklist
11:22 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
11:22 <hawmps> #!/bin/bash
11:22 <hawmps> while true; do
11:22 <hawmps> printf "Enter the Ip address to be blocked:"
11:22 <hawmps> read TARGET;
11:22 <hawmps> if [[ $TARGET = 0 ]]; then break; fi;
11:22 <hawmps> iptables -I INPUT -s $TARGET -j DROP;
11:22 <Soul_keeper> i'm too "macho" to use iptables, havn't used it since i ran a nat server a few years ago when iptables was just replacing ipchains
11:23 <hawmps> can't fault what works generally..
11:28 <Soul_keeper> dig tdev227-194.codetel.net.do |grep tdev227-194.codetel.net.do |tail -1 |tr '\t' '\n' |tail -1
11:28 <Soul_keeper> i'm a messing basher
11:29 <Soul_keeper> that's probably nothing like what you want tho
11:30 <hawmps> it doesn't cover the spoofed ones that are the biggest problems..
11:31 <Soul_keeper> what's an example of a "spoofed" one ?
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11:40 <hawmps> customer-200-81-204-114.millicom.com.ar
11:40 <hawmps> inside-ip-115.astranet.ru
11:40 <hawmps> typical..
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11:46 <Soul_keeper> well i'd assume someone would have to own astranet.ru and com.ar
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11:46 <Soul_keeper> could just blacklist the whole domain ...
11:47 <Soul_keeper> i dunno, i'm no network expert
11:48 <Soul_keeper> www.astranet.ru looks like they give out shell accounts tho
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11:49 <Soul_keeper> same with www.com.ar
11:53 <Soul_keeper> might take some work but you could set your program to whois the domains, and send off automated e-mails to the admins telling them of the offending subdomains
11:53 <MTughan> Heh, looks like three people on the shoutbox are going to hit 1 mil all around the same time: me, caspr, and formulaman.
11:54 <Soul_keeper> when is that ?
11:54 <Soul_keeper> i should hit 1M on wcg in about 20 days :)
11:54 <MTughan> Not sure. I just broke the 800K barrier, caspr's up at 930K, and formulaman splits the middle at 860K.
11:55 <MTughan> Approximating 10K/day once I get the quad up, that means about 20 days...
11:55 <Soul_keeper> 940K on wcg 3K a day
11:55 <MTughan> Note that I didn't plan on 20 days.
11:55 <Soul_keeper> heh
11:56 <Soul_keeper> when i get to 1M on wcg i'll likely focus on seti and einstein
11:56 <MTughan> Anyway, I might actually get a bit more. The quad can start using the GPU, two tasks on Milkyway to one core, and then WCG on the other three. Should actually make around 8-12K/day. The lappie does 4-5K/day.
11:57 <Soul_keeper> there you go
11:57 <MTughan> So I could conceivably hit 15K/day... Man, that's the highest I've ever had.
11:57 <MTughan> &math 190 / 15
11:57 <Romulus> MTughan: 12.6666666667
11:57 <MTughan> w00t, two weeks!
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12:10 <MTughan> Wow, I have 9 tabs open to various pages on BOINCStats...
12:11 <MTughan> One for my stats, Pov's, SK's, formulaman's, and caspr's, two comparison tables, a team table, and the shoutbox.
12:18 <Soul_keeper> how about your bank account, and my paypal button :)
12:19 <MTughan> Even if I were to donate all the money I have in campus accounts, bank account, and cash, it'd amount to about $15.
12:19 <Soul_keeper> lol
12:20 <MTughan> In hardware terms, I own probably about $4500 worth of computers.
12:20 <Soul_keeper> so you're in college then ?
12:20 <MTughan> University. Basically the same thing according to the US.
12:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah, here we have college and university, "university" is considered more prestigious thus costs more ...
12:22 <MTughan> I'm not sure about costs, but I would assume the same thing. And the mindset still applies.
12:24 <Romulus> Title: Dude, Pot Growers Offer To Save California - Funny Business with Jane Wells - CNBC.com (at www.cnbc.com)
12:26 <MTughan> lol
12:55 <ELGono> nice idea ;)
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14:21 <MTughan> Wow... hawmps: You definitely sent the snow our way. Coming down in large flakes.
14:23 <zombie67> &wx 94568
14:23 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 59.9°F / 15.5°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the 60s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Patchy fog through the night. (1 more message)
14:23 <zombie67> &more
14:23 <Romulus> zombie67: Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. West winds around 5 mph.; Saturday - Partly cloudy in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;
14:24 <zombie67> not even 60F? brrrrr!
14:24 <MTughan> Wow, you're warm...
14:24 <MTughan> &wx YOW
14:24 <zombie67> heh
14:24 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 27Â°F / -3Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM EST; Today - Periods of light snow. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind becoming west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) early this afternoon. High -2C(28F).; Tonight - Periods of light snow ending early this evening then (1 more message)
14:24 <zombie67> YOW??
14:24 <MTughan> Light snow it ain't anymore.
14:24 <MTughan> &airport YOW
14:24 <Romulus> MTughan: Ottawa - Hull, Canada
14:24 <zombie67> ah, that's a postal code?
14:24 <MTughan> Airport code.
14:24 <MTughan> &wx K1S 5B7
14:24 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 26.8Â°F / -2.9Â°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.35in / 993.8hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h | Updated: 2:24 PM EST; Today - Periods of light snow. Amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind becoming west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) early this afternoon. High -2C(28F).; Tonight - Periods of light snow ending early this evening (1 more message)
14:24 <zombie67> &wx SFO
14:25 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 53°F / 12°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph in the morning...becoming (1 more message)
14:25 <MTughan> lol, 0.1C colder here than at the airport. xD
14:25 <MTughan> Carleton probably has a weather station on campus actually, explains why the postal code gets a different result than the airport.
14:28 <MTughan> Looks like the snow's getting heavier...
14:29 <MTughan> Oh, and very good news for us... Public transit has been on strike for 52 days now. The mayor and the union leader reached a tentative deal yesterday, so we may finally have some relief.
14:30 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Ducklings (at www.xkcd.com)
14:31 <zombie67> if you can go without it for 52 days, you really don't need it. Fire them all.
14:32 <MTughan> We don't really need it, but it clogs up the roads. What used to be a 15-20 minute drive for my teacher in the morning has apparently become over an hour.
14:32 <zombie67> do what we all do around here, time shift
14:32 <zombie67> after the earthquake, and all the bridges were closed (and many other roads), traffic came to a halt
14:33 <zombie67> so people started shifting their commute times around
14:33 <zombie67> some people would go in at 4 AM, some at noon.
14:33 <zombie67> the rest of us started telecommuting
14:33 <MTughan> '"Thank God! That's all I have to say," said Dore Charbonneau, who added getting up at 4:30 a.m. to carpool to work was taking its toll.'
14:34 <zombie67> heh
14:35 <MTughan> Talking to a driver: "But when asked if he thought the strike was worth it, he said he didn't know."
14:35 <zombie67> seriously, if I can live without it 52 days, I don't need it
14:35 <MTughan> Ah, good... City council voted 17-0 to ratify the agreement. That just leaves the union.
14:36 <zombie67> I am sure the public transportation doesn't pay for itself. Ditch it, and lower taxes
14:39 <MTughan> Well, a lot of people are calling the mayor a "lame duck". Frankly, I agree with them.
14:39 <MTughan> Anyway, the union meets tomorrow.
14:40 <MTughan> And of course, on their website, the big text "ATU Local 279 and its Members CANNOT BE BROKEN!". F*** you.
14:40 <zombie67> I hate unions
14:40 <MTughan> The story behind the strike is more interesting... They went on strike in mid-December because they were working without a contract. But the previous contract had expired in April.
14:41 <zombie67> they destroyed the US car inductry
14:41 <zombie67> with the help of management, of course
14:41 <MTughan> I think the union took it too far, but I blame the City for the strike more.
14:42 <zombie67> I prefer: do a good job, *earn* that raise or promotion.
14:43 <zombie67> do a crappy job, get fired
14:43 <zombie67> simple
14:43 <zombie67> no negotiation needed.
14:43 <MTughan> Provided you were being paid a fair wage at the beginning.
14:43 <zombie67> there are minimum wage laws in the US
14:43 <zombie67> not sure up your way
14:44 <MTughan> If you were working as a big part of a company and were being paid minimum wage, would you do it?
14:44 <MTughan> (I can't think of a position ATM)
14:44 <zombie67> free market would take care of thet
14:44 <zombie67> they wouldn't be able to hire people for minimum
14:44 <zombie67> and if they *could*, then maybe that is all that job is worth
14:44 <MTughan> Not necessarily. Consider the transit here. There's only one transit system that they can work for.
14:45 <zombie67> you can drive for other industries
14:45 <zombie67> or learn another skill
14:45 <zombie67> or move to a town that has better jobe
14:45 <zombie67> jobs
14:45 <zombie67> no one *owes* anyone a job
14:47 <MTughan> Also, another strike that was killed yesterday... York University TAs had been on strike for 12 weeks. The Ontario government passed back-to-work legislation yesterday forcing them back.
14:47 <zombie67> good
14:48 <zombie67> WAY too many people who enter the bizarre world of higher education, to get a degree, and just never leave
14:51 <ELGono> hehehe i'm student since 10 years and like to study some more 20 years ;)
14:55 <zombie67> my fav rodney dangerfield quote from Back To School:
14:56 <zombie67> Thank you, Dean Martin, President Sinclair...and members of the graduating class.
14:56 <zombie67> I have only one thing to say to you today...it's a jungle out there.
14:56 <zombie67> You gotta look out for number one. But don't step in number two.
14:56 <zombie67> And so, to all you graduates...as you go out into the world my advice to you is...don't go!
14:56 <zombie67> It's rough out there. Move back with your parents. Let them worry about it.
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15:07 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
15:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
15:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 34Â°F / 1Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Chance of Snow. High:33 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:33 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 ° F.;
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15:45 <jasong> Okay, stupid question, how do I turn an unpartitioned volume into an independent directory I can transfer stuff to? it's an external drive, so it won't be accessible all the time. I'm losing hair just trying to get it recognized as free space
15:45 <jasong> LInux
15:45 <jasong> Fedora 10
15:47 <xcamel> re-hi
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16:21 <FreeLarry58> morn all
16:22 <FreeLarry58> well xcamel took suggestion and picked up a 650W ps yesterday - i think it may work as have 3 rails rated at 19 amps so should be able to split load inside machine better
16:22 <FreeLarry58> hopefully will be more stable once i get it in
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16:32 <MTughan__> Seeya FL.
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16:36 <xcamel> ...hope it works..
16:37 <MTughan> Means more BOINC output if it works. :P
16:37 <MTughan> Although we lose the space heater aspect.
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16:52 <CoderForLife> re-hi
16:52 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
16:52 <CoderForLife> hello Mr. T
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16:53 <MTughan> Ever heard of a Core 2 Quard?
16:53 <CoderForLife> seems like I could walk froim here to the creek on the backs of deer
16:53 <MTughan> zombie67: Dunno, could be a number of things.
16:53 <MTughan> Can I get you to run two commands for me?
16:54 <CoderForLife> core 2 quad? absolutely
16:54 <MTughan> CoderForLife: No, Core 2 QuaRd.
16:54 <MTughan> Type FTW.
16:54 <MTughan> Typo*
16:54 <CoderForLife> lol
16:54 <CoderForLife> um no
16:55 <MTughan> zombie67: Can I get you to run two commands on the terminal for me?
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16:57 <zombie67> sure
16:58 <MTughan> "file <application>" and "otool -L <application>"
16:58 <zombie67> which application?
16:58 <zombie67> % file <application>
16:58 <MTughan> The NQueens application. I don't know the exact path, although I can guess at it.
16:58 <zombie67> Missing name for redirect.
16:58 <zombie67> ah!
16:58 <zombie67> just a sec
16:58 <MTughan> /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/nqueens.ing.udec.cl/NQueen_5.30_powerpc-apple-darwin
16:58 <MTughan> Probably that.
16:59 * CoderForLife gets out the bills to pay
17:00 * CoderForLife never pays the larrys - sorry FL
17:00 <zombie67> tcsh ./file command not found
17:00 <MTughan> file should be in the path, not the current directory.
17:01 <zombie67> app: Mach-0 executable ppc
17:01 <MTughan> Okay, good. At least they didn't mistakenly compile it as an Intel app.
17:02 <zombie67> otool command not found
17:02 <MTughan> Maybe it gets installed with the developer tools...
17:03 <MTughan> otool -L will show the dynamically linked libraries for an application. It's easier to trip up and possibly link it for a 10.5 minimum system than for a 10.4 min, especially if compiling on a 10.5 system.
17:04 <zombie67> i don't have any dev tools on my old PPCs
17:04 <MTughan> Any system with them at all?
17:05 <zombie67> nope
17:05 <zombie67> my quad bit the dirt
17:05 <zombie67> refuses to run for more than a few minutes
17:05 <zombie67> can't figure out why
17:05 <xcamel> low power?
17:05 <MTughan> I don't know of anyone else with XCode installed...
17:05 <zombie67> plenty of power
17:05 <MTughan> xcamel: It's a Mac (Pro?).
17:06 <zombie67> quad G5
17:06 <MTughan> Power Mac.
17:06 * CoderForLife remembers paying a Jay one time
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17:06 <xcamel> wow - quite a snow squall..
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17:07 <MTughan> Well, maybe the NQueens admins can run that command on their PPC application?
17:07 <MTughan> Presumably, one of them has XCode installed if they were able to compile Mac apps.
17:07 <zombie67> k
17:07 <zombie67> thanks for looking at this.
17:08 <MTughan> np
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17:09 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
17:09 <CoderForLife> moo
17:10 <efc> Hey
17:10 <efc> Got back from the hardware store, buying some threaded rods and such
17:10 <Tank_Master> are they multi threaded?
17:10 <MTughan> lol
17:10 <Tank_Master> :)
17:10 <xcamel> multi-rodded
17:10 <efc> single start
17:11 <efc> they appear to be in 2 categories: Crap and Non-Crap
17:11 <Tank_Master> :)
17:11 <Tank_Master> AMD and non AMD?
17:11 <efc> As far as having a smooth-spining bold on them
17:12 <efc> err bolt
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17:13 <efc> will have to hit McMaster-Carr sometime for some good ones but this will serve for now
17:16 * CoderForLife remembers back to circa 1979 - ah, McMaster Carr
17:16 <xcamel> or Grainger's
17:17 <efc> they have awesome stuff, but at around $50 a foot I'll want to mock up something with this Lowe's crap first
17:17 <xcamel> G - you can order all that stuff on line
17:17 <xcamel> oh.. Michael Steele gets the RNC chair
17:18 <CoderForLife> yep I heard Hannity say that
17:18 <CoderForLife> Hannity thought that was good
17:18 <xcamel> not Blackwell, but close enough
17:18 <CoderForLife> I don't know much about him
17:18 <CoderForLife> Blackwell I know
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17:19 <efc> I was hoping for some 1.5 and 2 inch dowel rods too but they didn't have any that big
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17:32 <wdsmia> TGIF!!!
17:33 <efc> &beer wdsmia
17:33 <Romulus> Here's your beer, efc... Now drink up before I slap you silly!
17:33 <xcamel> indeed
17:34 <efc> &rootbeer
17:34 <Romulus> efc: Are you daft?
17:34 <xcamel> all out.
17:34 * CoderForLife lifts his head from bill-paying
17:34 <CoderForLife> hello Doug
17:34 <wdsmia> *lo All
17:34 * CoderForLife returns to bill-paying
17:34 <xcamel> hi
17:36 <wdsmia> man it was a Murphy day today... glad its over
17:37 <CoderForLife> how's the Oracle server?
17:37 <wdsmia> its up
17:37 <CoderForLife> woot
17:37 <CoderForLife> was the UPS guy caught with blood on his hands?
17:37 <wdsmia> why it froze I have no idea
17:38 * CoderForLife checks the temperature
17:38 <CoderForLife> the first thing we do here is assign blame - whose fault was it?
17:40 <wdsmia> Itanium server just froze no logs nothing :(
17:40 <CoderForLife> this is not the first bad report I've heard about Itanium servers
17:40 <CoderForLife> Windows?
17:40 <Romulus> Somebody said Windows is not nearly as SHA1 computational friendly as Linux, CoderForLife
17:40 <wdsmia> no dumps ect first time in 3 years
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17:41 <wdsmia> RH
17:41 <Rookie_69> Allright... let me double-check... is it friday yet?
17:41 <CoderForLife> hmm
17:41 <CoderForLife> I think I can help you out Rookie_69 - which way did you come in?
17:42 <wdsmia> *lo Kunukastanie
17:42 <Rookie_69> Through the servants' entrance, of course.
17:43 <Rookie_69> Hi Doug, Don, and whoever else wants to get hi'ed.
17:44 <efc> moo
17:44 <Rookie_69> Hi, Eddie.
17:44 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn
17:45 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
17:46 <CoderForLife> KathrynM has completed her web site move - hooray
17:46 * Rookie_69 fears that he lost the knack of seasoning cast iron pans. :-(
17:47 <wdsmia> run out of bear greese?
17:47 <CoderForLife> Loonie juice
17:48 <Rookie_69> No, it just won't... not stick. I used to have a perfect one.
17:48 <CoderForLife> what happened? or maybe we don't want to know...
17:49 <Rookie_69> Maybe I just gotta grease it up and throw it in the oven and leave for a couple of hours.
17:50 <xcamel> no beaver fat?
17:50 <Rookie_69> No, but plenty of fat beavers around...
17:50 <xcamel> how did I know...
17:50 <Rookie_69> ... did I say that out loud?
17:51 <CoderForLife> not that I heard
17:51 <xcamel> uh-huh
17:52 * CoderForLife grabs the next bill to pay
17:53 * Rookie_69 tried to change his nick to bill, but irc wouldn't let him. :-(
17:54 *** Rookie_69 is now known as next_bill
17:54 <next_bill> Better.
17:55 <CoderForLife> sorry - this one has to go towards the wall
17:55 *** next_bill is now known as Rookie_69
17:55 *** wdsmia is now known as wall
17:55 <Rookie_69> Lol.
17:55 *** wall is now known as wdsmia
17:56 <CoderForLife> heh
17:57 <CoderForLife> bbiaf
18:04 <efc> Hmm. I worked out that a 1/4" round steel rod should be able to support 178,000 pounds.
18:05 <Rookie_69> Only if it was a British cheque.
18:07 <efc> similarly i've worked out that LHC cannot produce dangerous black holes.
18:14 <meglaw> how
18:18 <CoderForLife> what does a non-dangerous black hole look like?
18:18 <CoderForLife> they all look alike to me
18:18 <meglaw> a verry long way away one
18:18 * CoderForLife is quite prejudiced against black holes
18:19 <CoderForLife> well - allergic actually
18:20 <meglaw> iÂ´d say thay look point-like
18:20 <meglaw> typicly smaller then a plank length
18:23 * CoderForLife hasn'r had a use for a Planck length since college physics in about 1979
18:24 <Rookie_69> You had to use a plank in college? Must've been some big girls.
18:26 <CoderForLife> I was in engineering - girls was something we could observe outside the library window
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18:27 <Rookie_69> All you needed was a ladder... Ever watch Revenge of the Nerds?
18:28 <CoderForLife> I was a commuter - a ladder wouldn't work on top of my car
18:28 <Rookie_69> ... and a drill... and some cameras...
18:29 <Rookie_69> I don't want to hear about your political views.
18:29 <CoderForLife> we were nerdier - reprogramming the RJE workstation and the engineering building elevators
18:30 <CoderForLife> access the mainframe COBOL compiler with DISP=(OLD,DELETE)
18:30 <CoderForLife> great fun
18:32 * Rookie_69 recognizes the term COBOL from somewhere, but ignores the rest... ? extra ignored.
18:33 <CoderForLife> even more insidious, redefine your JOB stream with //SYSIN DD DLM=%& and let everyone's jobs they read in from the card reader get appended to your job as data
18:33 <CoderForLife> woot
18:34 *** novacrust is now known as HypnoBama
18:35 <CoderForLife> lol
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18:35 * CoderForLife wistfully remembers compiling his first FORTRAN IV program to run Above The Line
18:36 <CoderForLife> Computed GOTOs are da bomb
18:36 * Rookie_69 barely remembers BASIC.
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18:37 * CoderForLife looks at his cable bill
18:37 <CoderForLife> looks like it's got a bad case of Creepus Feeus
18:38 * Rookie_69 tries not to look at his cable bill.
18:38 <KathrynM> uh oh, CoderForLife saw my ugly 1997-esque website
18:38 * Rookie_69 tries not to think of his empty gas tank either.
18:38 <CoderForLife> I track important things like that, KathrynM
18:39 * Rookie_69 says Hi! to KathrynM.
18:39 <KathrynM> &bighello
18:39 <Romulus> Hello Celelibi, CoderForLife, ComradeHaz, Crewsr3, deprecated, DerMeister, desti, efc, ELGono, Eythan, FreeLarry58, frost__, Hodapp, HypnoBama, infinisoft, jasong, KathrynM, Lorvija, MacG_, meglaw, MTughan, MTughan_, mydog2, PieSpyRom, quail, redeeman, Romulus, Rookie_69, sigmund, sigmund_, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Turf, up365, vlazar_, wdsmia, xcamel, XioNYC, and zombie67
18:39 <CoderForLife> hmm that's big
18:39 <KathrynM> &smallhello
18:39 <Romulus> KathrynM: Are you daft?
18:39 <KathrynM> yes Romulus I am daft
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18:42 <Rookie_69> ... and proud of it.
18:44 <KathrynM> rommie says daft like it's a bad thing
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18:45 <Rookie_69> Tomayto, tomahto... Sanity, senility...
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18:45 <CoderForLife> attending ESL class, Rookie_69?
18:46 <Rookie_69> All good Americans should learn English...
18:47 <Rookie_69> I can usually understand Americanese too.
18:47 <Rookie_69> I can rarely understand English though.
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18:50 <Rookie_69> I threw me loot in me boot and then scoot... I put my stuff in my trunk and then left... or something like that.
18:54 <CoderForLife> turned on me beams and then me brights
18:54 <Rookie_69> I'm pretty sure Me old Cock is a term of endearment, not a used sex toy.
18:54 <CoderForLife> passed some lorries while eating some crisps
18:55 * CoderForLife watches the Family Filter move upscale
18:55 <Rookie_69> ... Cockney...
18:55 <CoderForLife> op-ney
18:57 <Rookie_69> OK... I was sitting in a beer tent a few years ago and we had to leave the tent to suck on a fag... We went out for a cigarette.\
18:59 * CoderForLife finishes writing the bills and glenns
18:59 <Rookie_69> ... and walls?
19:00 <CoderForLife> yeah - a $375 payment
19:00 <wdsmia> he will be writing the wall off for a long time
19:00 <CoderForLife> indeed - but the tax return will kill off one loan
19:00 <CoderForLife> actually a credit card balance
19:02 <XioNYC> &wx LGA
19:02 <CoderForLife> I don't see where the plumber came today to look at what seems to be water coming from the neighbor's yeard
19:02 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1011hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers this evening. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph late. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny and brisk. Highs in the upper 20s. (1 more message)
19:02 <XioNYC> &more
19:02 <Romulus> XioNYC: Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy and brisk. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds 15 to 20 mph.;
19:03 <Rookie_69> I just had to throw some salt in the driveway... Anybody else got an ice problem? Lol.
19:03 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
19:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 28.2°F / -2.1°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1019.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Not as cold. Low in the lower 20s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. Not as cold. High in the lower 40s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to (1 more message)
19:03 <wdsmia> &more
19:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 25 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.;
19:04 <wdsmia> 40's :)
19:04 <Rookie_69> Summertime, here we come!
19:04 <CoderForLife> looks like I'm starting to finish up the last of the recent batch of LHC WUs
19:04 <Rookie_69> Oh... you mean farenheit.
19:05 <CoderForLife> try thinking American Rookie_69 - it'll help =)
19:05 * wdsmia will start the last batch of LHC tomarrow afternoon
19:05 * Rookie_69 has at least one running.
19:06 <wdsmia> PG challenge ends 18:00 UTC
19:06 <CoderForLife> I'll unsuspend other hour in about 50 minutes
19:06 * CoderForLife dozes off
19:06 * Rookie_69 blames everyone else for not reminding him ablut Prime Grid challenge.
19:06 <Rookie_69> ... about...
19:07 <CoderForLife> it's a long way from 3:15am to the end of BSG at 11:00pm on Friday
19:07 <Rookie_69> Marathon?
19:07 <Rookie_69> Oh... just a long day.
19:07 <CoderForLife> pretty much both
19:08 <CoderForLife> although I managed to get in a pretty good run of Coding today
19:08 * Rookie_69 still has to look for every episode of BSG except the pilot.
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19:13 <CoderForLife> at last
19:13 <CoderForLife> hello BadBarbarian
19:13 <BadBarbarian> hi there
19:14 <BadBarbarian> you been lonly in here :-)
19:14 <CoderForLife> we keep Rookie_69 around for spice
19:14 <BadBarbarian> he he
19:14 <Rookie_69> Nobody here but us chickens.
19:15 <Rookie_69> I ain't no Spice Girl!
19:15 <wdsmia> maybe alittle over ripe
19:15 * CoderForLife nods
19:16 <BadBarbarian> trying to figure out wether its worth crunching with my 8600 gt
19:16 <Rookie_69> Old Spice maybe...
19:17 <CoderForLife> &acronym spice
19:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?
19:17 <CoderForLife> I didn't think so
19:17 <BadBarbarian> hey what ever happened to TheGasGiant
19:17 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant
19:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 14 weeks, 5 days, 13 hours, 24 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: * TheGasGiant sneaks in
19:17 <wdsmia> &cyborg spice
19:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: S.P.I.C.E.: Synthetic Positronic Individual Calibrated for Exploration
19:18 <Rookie_69> Nope...rig up the yawl and head north.
19:18 <CoderForLife> he got that new job, and decided he was going to spend more time with family
19:18 <Rookie_69> Bastard!
19:18 <CoderForLife> what are we? potted plants?
19:19 <Rookie_69> &cyborg bastard
19:19 <Romulus> Rookie_69: B.A.S.T.A.R.D.: Biomechanical Artificial Soldier Trained for Accurate Repair and Destruction
19:19 <CoderForLife> I always chat him up real good, then make him promise to come back real soon
19:19 <Rookie_69> &invoke TheGasGiant
19:19 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Are you daft?
19:20 <Rookie_69> Well, yeah.
19:20 <BadBarbarian> &cyborg yousuck
19:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Y.O.U.S.U.C.K.: Ytterbium Operational Unit Skilled in Ultimate Calculation and Killing
19:20 * CoderForLife leans back and closes his eyes only.. for.. a........ mo...............
19:21 <BadBarbarian> &cyborg thegasgiant
19:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.
19:21 <Rookie_69> &cyborg paul
19:21 <Romulus> Rookie_69: P.A.U.L.: Positronic Artificial Utility Lifeform
19:22 <XioNYC> &cyborg ERROR
19:22 <Romulus> XioNYC: E.R.R.O.R.: Electronic Robotic Replicant Optimized for Repair
19:22 <XioNYC> How appropriate
19:22 <CoderForLife> &cyborg TGG
19:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: T.G.G.: Technician Generated for Gratification
19:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CoderForLife
19:22 <Rookie_69> Tell that to his wife.
19:23 <CoderForLife> Rommie.......
19:23 <wdsmia> &roolette
19:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: Are you daft?
19:23 <wdsmia> &roulette
19:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: *click*
19:24 * CoderForLife points to the rules suspended from the cavern ceiling
19:24 <CoderForLife> that's ONE Rommie
19:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o CoderForLife
19:25 * Rookie_69 thought CFL was dozing off...
19:26 <CoderForLife> the Family Filter alarm woke me up
19:27 * CoderForLife finishes printing the final copy of his tax returns for filing
19:27 <CoderForLife> I feed them paper
19:27 * Rookie_69 would bite his tongue, but that would induce another filterable word.
19:28 <CoderForLife> part of my contribution to full employment, and economic stimulus by bloating the size of the federal government
19:30 <BadBarbarian> &roulette
19:30 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: *click*
19:31 <CoderForLife> the federal government must grow to take over all functions - think of the MCP in Tron
19:31 <Rookie_69> Take me to your Lizard!
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19:32 <Tank_Master> wtf????!!?!?!?!?!?!?
19:32 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around with a large Carp
19:33 * Tank_Master sends 7420 lampfishes after wdsmia
19:33 <Tank_Master> "software cause connection abort"
19:33 <wdsmia> Ooooo night lights
19:33 <Rookie_69> WTF... Write True Fiction???
19:33 <Tank_Master> and it reconnected, but didnt rejoin the channels
19:33 <Tank_Master> the
19:33 <Tank_Master> not true
19:36 <CoderForLife> in other important news, I renewed my library card today
19:36 <Rookie_69> You sure it's not an ID10T input error?
19:37 <CoderForLife> S0C4
19:37 <wdsmia> user installed software... software cause connection abort... Error ID 10 T
19:38 <Rookie_69> That's the one.
19:39 <CoderForLife> "you're outta bounds - go sit in the penalty box"
19:44 <CoderForLife> I need more caffeine - bbiab
19:44 <Rookie_69> You mean caffeine isn't just for breakfast anymore?
19:45 * Rookie_69 rethinks his morning ritual.
19:46 * Rookie_69 remembers coffee liqueur...
19:47 * Rookie_69 shudders
19:47 * Rookie_69 sips on his beer instead.
19:48 * Rookie_69 notices that it's not opened yet.
19:48 * wdsmia aint worth a sh** in the morning till he drinks his cigs and smokes his coffee
19:48 <Rookie_69> Dry beer.
19:49 * Rookie_69 wonders if smoking coffee would work better than steaming it...
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20:01 <XioNYC> Define "work better"
20:03 <Rookie_69> Buzz buzz buzz...
20:04 * CoderForLife snaps awake at the sound of the alarm clock
20:04 * wdsmia slaps Rookie_69 with a fly swatter
20:04 <Rookie_69> Wake me up in the morning...
20:04 * XioNYC hits the alarm clock with a sledgehammer
20:04 <CoderForLife> we'll take that request under consideration Rookie_69
20:05 * Rookie_69 turns off calendar and buries box and cell phone in snowbank.
20:05 <Rookie_69> Wake up the pigeons!
20:06 <Rookie_69> Tomorrow is Not Work Day... Buzz off.
20:14 <Rookie_69> Oh wait... The boat still calls me... Maybe tomorrow will be a work day after all...
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20:20 <jasong> &cyborg jasong
20:20 <Romulus> jasong: J.A.S.O.N.G.: Journeying Artificial Soldier Optimized for Nocturnal Gratification
20:20 <jasong> huh?
20:20 <jasong> lol
20:20 <wdsmia> &roulette
20:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: *click*
20:23 <jasong> Is there an Idiot's Guide to adding hard drives to a Linux installation?
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20:24 <jasong> My OS is fubar, so I'm going to back up my home directory and start from scratch
20:24 <jasong> (I screwed it up BAD)
20:26 <CoderForLife> sounds like it
20:30 <CoderForLife> BSG may be out of reach for me tonight
20:30 <CoderForLife> I'm dropping off - gn folks
20:31 <wdsmia> &nn
20:31 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
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20:38 * Rookie_69 would have said NN to CFL if he had noticed him leaving...
20:39 * Rookie_69 doesn't seem to be very observant.
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21:01 <zombie67> MT?
21:01 <Romulus> Somebody said MT is right, zombie67
21:14 <MTughan> Hmm, that's odd.
21:15 <MTughan> It is possible to make code for PPC G5 and not G4, but you have to be explicit about that.
21:19 <zombie67> yeah
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22:01 <Rookie_69> L8er... I'm outta here.
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22:23 <Soul_keeper> okok
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22:33 <Soul_keeper> geeze they are talking about 8-pin connectors for video cards now
22:35 <efc> They could just make the existing pins bigger
22:36 <Soul_keeper> well the pcie slots supplies 75 watts, each six pin connector supplies 75 watts, the new 6 pin connector will supply 150 watts
22:36 <Soul_keeper> so apparently we can expect 75 + 75 + 150 = 300 watt cards (which are the estimates for intel's larrabee)
22:40 <Hodapp> my video card prolly uses about 50% of the power in my whole system o_O
22:41 <Soul_keeper> a computer within a computer
22:43 <Hodapp> basically
22:44 <Soul_keeper> i hope my monitor don't fail, it's been flickering lately ...
22:46 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Some video cards already use an 8-pin connector.
22:46 <Soul_keeper> ohhh, i thought they were just using two 6-pin ones
22:46 <MTughan> 9800GX2, GTX280, GTX295, HD4850X2, HD4870X2.
22:46 <MTughan> Those use a 6-pin and an 8-pin.
22:48 <MTughan> No card that I know of uses two 8-pins yet.
22:48 <Hodapp> mine just has a 6-pin; my PSU had no connectors so I used the adapter and connected it to two +12V/+5V connectors
22:49 <MTughan> There's a couple cards now that use two 6-pins. My HD4870 is one of them, I believe the 9800GTX uses those as well.
22:50 <MTughan> My PSU has two 6'ers and two 6+2 connectors.
22:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah that's cool
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23:22 <zombie67> when are xeon nehalim chips due?
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23:41 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 48Â°F / 9Â°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:46 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:48 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:33 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. High:55 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F.;
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