IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2009-02-01

00:00 <KathrynM> gonna run to the store to get something for lunch

00:00 <KathrynM> bbiab

00:02 <Rookie_69> Sounds pretty good on these old speakers.

00:02 <efc> Both of them?

00:02 <efc> the pseudostereo depends a lot on your speaker setup

00:04 <Rookie_69> Trying headset...

00:05 <efc> Unfortunately there will never be a better master of that

00:06 <Rookie_69> Don't hear much in the line of stereo... pseudo or otherwise.

00:06 <efc> On the second one?

00:07 <efc> two links there

00:07 <Rookie_69> Oh.

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00:10 <Rookie_69> Ok... There's a lot of difference there.

00:11 <Rookie_69> Snares on the left and piano on the right...

00:11 <efc> Its totally fake, I assure you

00:11 <efc> But I ike it

00:12 <efc> +l

00:17 <quail> hiya all

00:17 <Rookie_69> Oh... There's that other Aussie now...

00:18 <efc> moo Q

00:19 <quail> meep meep

00:21 <Rookie_69> Someone stopped in earlier from Sydney... He's around somewhere.

00:27 * Rookie_69 was watching a 32 year old Supertramp video and started feeling old.

00:29 * Rookie_69 watches a Beatles video and feels a bit younger.

00:33 <efc> i'm not doing well on my goal of getting married this year

00:33 <efc> 1 month down

00:35 <Rookie_69> I'm doing pretty good on my goal of never getting married...

00:38 <Rookie_69> Maybe it's not as much a goal as a foregone conclusion...

00:40 <efc> I have that feeling too

00:44 <Rookie_69> If you haven't scared her away yet, she probably has her teeth set.

00:45 <Rookie_69> ... as in I have her right where she wants me...

00:45 <efc> There isn't a her

00:45 <Rookie_69> Oh... Welcome to the club.

00:46 <efc> there are some long shots

00:46 <efc> some need a divorce

00:49 <Rookie_69> I look on Facebook and see the guys that are never going to find that woman have found them and I still haven't... I dunno.

00:50 <Rookie_69> Just don't become me and you'll be ok, I guess.

00:50 <Rookie_69> Lol.

00:52 * Rookie_69 cries into his beer.

00:52 <Rookie_69> Not because of the lack of women... It's my last beer.

00:53 <Rookie_69> ;-)

00:54 <Rookie_69> I'm, all set though... I leave the seat down.

00:55 <Rookie_69> It's very important to do that... and don't pee on it either.

00:56 <Rookie_69> That just makes it worse.

00:57 <Rookie_69> Women seem to have a need to pee in their sleep and a wet bum wakes them up.

00:59 <Rookie_69> They wake up cranky.

01:00 <Rookie_69> We don't want that.

01:00 <efc> Oh well

01:00 * Rookie_69 is glad that few women frequent this bar.

01:02 <Rookie_69> I accidentally clicked on something that put Gerry Rafferty into an endless loop... Easier than looking for new songs to play.

01:03 * efc looks at model motors and such

01:07 <Rookie_69> That's the wrong kind of model for a healthy young man to be looking at...

01:07 <Rookie_69> ;-)

01:10 <efc> You don't want to know

01:11 <Rookie_69> I'm too old to care, really.

01:12 <Hodapp> are you 69?

01:12 <Rookie_69> Nope... That's just my dream in life.

01:13 <Rookie_69> Only 46, iirc.

01:14 <Rookie_69> Maybe more of a faint memory than a dream...

01:16 * Rookie_69 slaps himself.

01:17 * Rookie_69 was asked a simple question and gave a crude answer... Shame!

01:18 * Rookie_69 then remembers that he is crude.

01:18 <efc> At least IRC isn't neural linked, so we don't get direct brain images. Yet.

01:19 <Rookie_69> That's a good thing most times.

01:21 <Rookie_69> An inch or two of snow outside... just enough to make everything greasy.

01:24 * Rookie_69 notes that Foot-In-Mouth Disease doesn't always affect typing.

01:24 <efc> Where are you again?

01:25 <Rookie_69> North and then east of you.

01:25 <Rookie_69> Blub blub.

01:26 <Rookie_69> Nova Scotia, Canada.

01:26 <efc> In the ocean?

01:26 <efc> Oh. Almost.

01:30 <Rookie_69> That rock up there.

01:35 <Rookie_69> Ohio... that's Don's part of the world.

01:35 * Rookie_69 notes again that his mind wanders.

01:47 * Rookie_69 wanders off to bed.

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02:18 <Soul_keeper> obama and his vp are rooting for the steelers

02:18 <Soul_keeper> so that means i'm rooting for the cardinals

02:27 <efc> I don't know who is playing. Well, I guess I do now.

02:30 <Soul_keeper> it's tomarrow apparently

02:30 * CoderForLife wanders in from bed

02:30 <efc> One thing I discovered

02:30 <efc> Don't go out to eat during the super bowl

02:30 <efc> The service will be awful.. Z-team on duty

02:30 <Soul_keeper> heh

02:31 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

02:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.4F / 0.8C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Temperatures rising into the mid 30s. Southwest winds around 15 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 40s. (1 more message)

02:31 <Soul_keeper> yeah and it'll be crowded

02:31 <CoderForLife> &more

02:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds around 5 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 2:45 AM EST on February 01, 2009;

02:32 <CoderForLife> what's this I hear?  some kind of sporting event today?

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02:34 <Soul_keeper> it's in florida

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02:38 <Tank_Master> do you guys think I responded well enough? -> http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=697

02:38 <Romulus> Title: Automatic fan speed control on GTX boards? (at www.gpugrid.net)

02:38 <Tank_Master> idiot things 60C for a gpu is to hot and is what is causing his problems :P

02:39 <Soul_keeper> well if he's an idiot i doubt you can help him :)

02:40 <Tank_Master> lol

02:40 <CoderForLife> Florida, huh?

02:40 <CoderForLife> wonder what it could be?

02:42 <CoderForLife> brb   First Breakfast

02:44 <Tank_Master> not second breatfest?

02:49 <CoderForLife> not yet - that comes in a little while

02:49 <Tank_Master> ah :P

02:50 <CoderForLife> Hobbit meals: breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner, and (later in the evening) supper.

03:00 <Soul_keeper> freak

03:00 <Tank_Master> you forgot brunch

03:00 <CoderForLife> Hobbits can eat whenever they want - that's the 7 main meals

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03:02 <CoderForLife> I think brunch and elevenses are about the same, but I'm sure someone could make a distinction

03:11 <Tank_Master> couda sworn he siad both

03:12 <Tank_Master> but I dunno

03:13 <CoderForLife> plink 200.214.15.142

03:14 <Tank_Master> wonder what RAC id get from dual geforce 295

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03:32 <Tank_Master> yoyo's here

03:33 <Tank_Master> so gn ya all :P

03:33 <CoderForLife> gn

03:33 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

03:34 <yoyo[RKN]> 9:30am here

03:34 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

03:34 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 9:20 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:32 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 F.; Chance of Snow. High:34 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:37 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:30 F.;

03:34 <CoderForLife> I'm going back to bed - been up since just after 2, and it's 3:34 now

03:35 <CoderForLife> re-gn

03:35 <yoyo[RKN]> sleep well

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04:57 <quail> &wx ypad

04:57 <Romulus> quail: Error: timed out

04:58 <quail> &math convert 40 C F

04:58 <Romulus> quail: 104.0

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05:06 <PovAdct_es> SNOW!

05:07 <KathrynM> lol

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05:24 <yoyo[RKN]> my win app crashes

05:24 <yoyo[RKN]> wrapper: running ecm.exe (-v -nn -timestamp -chkpnt checkpnt -inp in 43000000)

05:24 <yoyo[RKN]> app exit status: 0xc000013a

05:24 <yoyo[RKN]> can I somewhere read what such exit status means?

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05:25 <yoyo[RKN]> PovAdct_es : can I somewhere read about such exit status?

05:25 <yoyo[RKN]> wrapper: running ecm.exe (-v -nn -timestamp -chkpnt checkpnt -inp in 43000000)

05:25 <yoyo[RKN]> app exit status: 0xc000013a

05:26 <PovAdct_es> I charge extra for support while I'm on vacation ;)

05:26 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm always on vacation when I'm in this chat

05:27 <PovAdct_es> lol

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05:52 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

05:52 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 45.0F / 7.2C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Areas of dense fog. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times. Lows 44 to 54. Light winds becoming east 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph overnight.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Areas of dense fog in the (1 more message)

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07:24 <CoderForLife> re-hi

07:24 <CoderForLife> awake again

07:24 <CoderForLife> slept from about 3:45 to 7:15

07:25 <CoderForLife> time for Second Breakfast

07:26 <Soul_keeper> i'm happy for you

07:30 <CoderForLife> I needed the rest

07:31 <Soul_keeper> boinc runs really slow when you watch the progress bar ...

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08:05 <xcamel> 'lo

08:20 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 18.1F / -7.7C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. South winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

08:21 <xcamel> &more

08:21 <Romulus> xcamel: Monday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest in the afternoon.;

08:22 <xcamel> bbiab

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08:28 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

08:28 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 30.0F / -1.1C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 30s. West wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy then becoming mostly cloudy after midnight then becoming partly cloudy. Scattered flurries after (1 more message)

08:28 <wdsmia> &more

08:28 <Romulus> wdsmia: midnight. Low around 20. West wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph after midnight.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Scattered flurries. High in the lower 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

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08:31 <xcamel> yea!

08:31 *** xcamel_ was kicked by xcamel (User terminated!)

08:32 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:32 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 18.5F / -7.5C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. South winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

08:32 <xcamel> &more

08:32 <Romulus> xcamel: Monday - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest in the afternoon.;

08:32 <xcamel> &quiet

08:32 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

08:33 <wdsmia> &coffee

08:33 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

08:33 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090201.html

08:33 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 February 1 - Auroral Corona Over Norway (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

08:33 <xcamel> nice shot

08:45 <CoderForLife> re-morning

08:46 <CoderForLife> the melt has begun

08:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

08:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 34.7F / 1.5C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of blowing snow early this morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. A slight (1 more message)

08:46 <CoderForLife> huh?  blowing snow?

08:47 <CoderForLife> &more

08:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of snow showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.;

08:49 <CoderForLife> hmm - this is a new approach - phishing e-mail saying I've won a Range Rover

08:50 <CoderForLife> wants me to send personal contact info to an email address at yahoo.com.hk

08:50 <xcamel> I guess I need to figure out how to create a backup mailserver

08:51 <xcamel> temps are rising slowly here

08:51 <CoderForLife> that would be a good thing

08:52 <xcamel> brain too full of fog

08:52 <CoderForLife> mine is foll of fug

08:53 <xcamel> problem.. mail goes to a dedicated IP inside the fw

08:53 <CoderForLife> hmm

08:53 <xcamel> now offline

08:53 <CoderForLife> um - no mail

08:53 <xcamel> zactly

08:54 <CoderForLife> using MX records in DNS and preferences, you can specifiy a primary and a backup

08:54 <CoderForLife> but be sure that spammers will send to all with equal zeal

08:55 <xcamel> dns record at network solutions.. no internal dns server

08:55 <CoderForLife> not a stopper

08:55 <CoderForLife> just got to manage MX records on it

08:55 <xcamel> remembering the access is..

08:57 <BadBarbarian> 'lo all

08:57 <CoderForLife> hello BadBarbarian

08:57 <BadBarbarian> i have finally got my gpu crunching woohoo

08:58 <CoderForLife> w00t

08:58 <BadBarbarian> its an 8600 gt but its crunching lol

08:59 <CoderForLife> congrats

08:59 <BadBarbarian> ty

08:59 <BadBarbarian> what a pain

09:00 <CoderForLife> but you are an overcomer

09:07 <xcamel> ok... added the backup to the domain record

09:14 <xcamel> added the alias on the backup box

09:22 <meglaw_> morrn

09:23 <CoderForLife> did you set preferences xcamel?

09:24 <CoderForLife> gave your primary MX a lower number?

09:25 <CoderForLife> are you just going to check for mail on the backup via your mail client?

09:25 <CoderForLife> bbiab

09:39 <CoderForLife> b

09:44 <xcamel> lower number is higher priority?

09:44 <CoderForLife> iirc yes

09:45 <xcamel> mail 15, mail1 (backup =10)?

09:45 <CoderForLife> make your main one 10 and the backup 15 or 20

09:46 <CoderForLife> again iirc

09:46 <CoderForLife> spammers will whack on both

09:46 <xcamel> main is dead atm..

09:47 <xcamel> need backup higher priority

09:47 <CoderForLife> ok for now

09:47 <xcamel> been too long since I had to do this.. forgot everything.

09:47 <CoderForLife> once you get primary up, then switch them

09:47 <CoderForLife> it's been awhile for me too

09:48 <xcamel> not to get postfix working..

09:48 <xcamel> er now

09:48 <xcamel> and dovecot

09:48 <xcamel> this is going to ba an all day project

09:49 <CoderForLife> I'll be Coding all day

09:49 <CoderForLife> and watching the melt - I want to see what happens with this apparent water leask out front

09:50 <CoderForLife> I need to see if it's the neighbors (as I suspect) or me

09:51 <CoderForLife> I was about to start renting ice skates

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10:07 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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10:25 <CoderForLife> wb jasong

10:34 <jasong> thanks

10:35 <jasong> Managed to screw up both of my computers somehow, not sure what happened with the quad-core

10:35 <CoderForLife> perfect score - 2 for 2

10:35 <jasong> oh, yeah, if it ain't broke, make it my responsibility and it'll become broken

10:35 <jasong> lol

10:36 <CoderForLife> heh

10:36 <CoderForLife> I'm working on breaking mine - installing new Subversion components

10:36 <jasong> Well, at least I backed up this time, got all my video files

10:36 <jasong> Subversion?

10:37 <CoderForLife> yeah - source code control/versioning

10:37 <jasong> cool

10:38 <CoderForLife> going to keep the repositiory over on the development Linux server, and be able to maintain the Code from my desktop in Visual Studio or Eclipse, on the laptop and under Linux

10:38 <CoderForLife> one Code to rule them all

10:39 <jasong> Where have I heard that?  One * to rule them all

10:39 <CoderForLife> LoTR

10:39 <jasong> ah

10:39 <jasong> one ring

10:39 <CoderForLife> One Ring to rule them all

10:39 <jasong> ok

10:39 <CoderForLife> One Ring to find them

10:40 * CoderForLife holds back

10:52 <CoderForLife> etc

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10:57 <xcamel> little by little..

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11:28 * CoderForLife orders birthday presents for the wife

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11:46 <xcamel> good idea.. now where's mine?

11:47 <CoderForLife> when's your birthday?

11:48 <xcamel> 03/08

11:48 <CoderForLife> I've got a few days then =)

11:48 <xcamel> seems so..

11:48 <CoderForLife> hers is 2/17

11:48 <CoderForLife> the "Book'em Dano" birthday

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11:58 <CoderForLife> but I'm not telling how old she'll be

11:59 <xcamel> big "50" for me..

11:59 <CoderForLife> Hawaii Five-Oh

11:59 <xcamel> go figure

12:00 <CoderForLife> so she's about a 1/2 month older than you

12:00 <CoderForLife> congrats on the half-century

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12:01 <CoderForLife> since I'm sliding down the hill in front of you, let me advise that it's a rough ride so far

12:02 <CoderForLife> bbiab

12:02 <xcamel> youth is just soooo wasted on the young...

12:02 <CoderForLife> lol  yup

12:02 <MTughan__> Gah, WTF? BOINC quit last night because it couldn't write the state file.

12:03 <xcamel> I wonder how ling before the dns updates...

12:03 <CoderForLife> trying to transport data across state lines is a felony

12:03 <CoderForLife> that's actually a DNS setting

12:04 * xcamel wonders about the firewall too

12:04 <CoderForLife> is your firewall running a local DNS?

12:05 <MTughan__> And seems it was probably caused by anti-spyware scan last night. >_>

12:06 <CoderForLife> for instance, my firewall caches DNS entries, and all my machines are cfg'd to look to 192.168.1.1 for DNS

12:07 <CoderForLife> need to get back downstairs - I have a fire going in the fireplace, mainly to fight off a chimney leak with the melt going on

12:07 <CoderForLife> bbl

12:07 <CoderForLife> or from there

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13:46 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

13:46 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 37.5F / 3.1C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.47in / 1031.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 30s and lower 40s. Light wind becoming south near 10 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Rain likely. Lows 35 to 40. South wind 5 to 15 (1 more message)

13:46 <FreeLarry58> &more

13:46 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning with a chance of rain. Becoming partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs 45 to 50. South wind 10 to 15 mph decreasing to 10 mph or less in the afternoon.;

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14:00 <CoderForLife> sometimes boincmgr drives me crazy - I see that I have one last LHC WU completing with less than 2 minutes left, so I unsuspend S@H so that ir takes off when the LHC WU is done.  What does boinc mgr do?  Stops running the LHC WU and runs SETI.  Scary stupid.

14:01 <wdsmia> your just now figuring that out

14:01 <CoderForLife> no - I'm just victimized again

14:02 <wdsmia> know the feeling

14:02 * CoderForLife tests to see if thr AnkhSVN plug-in works in Visual Studio 2008

14:03 <CoderForLife> ah - shows up under the File menu

14:04 <CoderForLife> or should I say "Ankh"  =)

14:09 <FreeLarry58> humm just replaced ps and now machine really noisy but cant pinpoint it

14:10 <FreeLarry58> hoping its the ps fan

14:11 <CoderForLife> What!?  I can't hear you due to the PS fan!

14:12 <FreeLarry58> ;)

14:12 <FreeLarry58> tried vista hd - still corrupted evidently as keeps rebooting

14:12 <CoderForLife> hmm "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. "

14:12 <FreeLarry58> f10 had corrupt table so reinstalling

14:13 <CoderForLife> waddaya think? permissions?

14:13 <FreeLarry58> could be had the same when i tried to install boinc on f10 but machine went crazy before had chance to experiment

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14:26 <CoderForLife> down to the laptop

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14:58 <DerMeister> * CoderForLife tests to see if thr AnkhSVN plug-in works in Visual Studio 2008 <= it does - I didn't even have to install it, visual studio 2008 setup just took it over from the previous installed visual studio 2005

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15:28 <xcamel> wow.. 38F

15:28 <xcamel> holy meltdown...

15:29 <Tank_Master> its global worming

15:29 <xcamel> I'll take it..

15:29 <Tank_Master> lol

15:30 <xcamel> and a little more please..

15:30 <xcamel> damn tired of freexing my a$$ off

15:30 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

15:30 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 39.6F / 4.2C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. High in the lower 40s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 20. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Scattered (1 more message)

15:30 <wdsmia> &more

15:30 <Romulus> wdsmia: flurries. High in the lower 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

15:31 <xcamel> grrr.. stuporbowl

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15:35 <FreeLarry58> k ps didn't help will try the nic card next

15:36 <FreeLarry58> after w/*- tho

15:36 <FreeLarry58> f10 locked up on install and now wont fully boot for next attempt as machine crashing

15:37 * FreeLarry58 really suspects mb

15:41 * Tank_Master thinks an upgrade to win7 might help

15:42 <FreeLarry58> not if machine wont stay running long enough for install

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16:04 <CoderOnTheCouch> thanks DerMeister - I didn't have an existing installation of Visual Studio with any source code control installed.  I added AnkhSVN to Visual Studio 2008 for the first time.

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16:09 <MTughan> Well, I reseated my cooler, just doing the break-in period now using Prime95. It seems that the temperatures aren't better than before yet, but they're no worse. So that's good.

16:12 <MTughan> Ah, fan problem... Turned the fan the CPU heatsink's facing up a notch, temps have dropped at least 3C.

16:15 <xcamel> here we burn the dvd, dvd, dvd

16:20 <MTughan> 3-4C per core with just a fan increase. w00t!

16:21 <xcamel> slow burn..

16:21 <xcamel> 3.2gb @ 4.10x

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16:49 <BADarklighter> i got a question if this is the right place to ask

16:51 <CoderOnTheCouch> depends on your question, I guess

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16:51 <BADarklighter> i am attempting to install BOINC onto Fedora 10 system and the manager isnt connecting to the client. how can i fix this

16:52 <MTughan> xcamel: Any insight?

16:53 <MTughan> xcamel tried installing on a F10 system recently. I seem to remember him saying you needed to be using GNOME, it wouldn't work under KDE. What desktop are you using?

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16:53 <MTughan> 'lo efc

16:54 <efc> Hey

16:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> moo

16:54 <BADarklighter> GNOME desktop

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16:55 <BADarklighter> i can get the manager running but it wont connect to the client for some reason

16:57 <MTughan> The obvious question: if the client running?

16:58 <MTughan> is*

16:58 <BADarklighter> how can i check that in fedora?

16:59 <MTughan> Try "ps aux | grep boinc" in a terminal window.

16:59 <BADarklighter> root command ?

16:59 <MTughan> Shouldn't need root, no.

16:59 <BADarklighter> ok

16:59 <BADarklighter> give me a sec

17:00 <BADarklighter> capetsch  2965  0.0  0.1   4212   708 pts/0    S+   16:00   0:00 grep boinc

17:00 <BADarklighter> thats what comes up

17:01 <BADarklighter> do i need to download the development files ?

17:01 <MTughan> Well, it seems that the client isn't running. How are you starting the manager? And how did you install it?

17:03 <BADarklighter> i installed it thought the add/remove software, searched and downloaded the client and manager. when it was finnished it asked if i wanted to run the manager and i clicked yes.

17:03 <MTughan> All right... So through the package manager.

17:04 <MTughan> Hold on, let me boot my F10 VM, see if I can't figure out how it's supposed to start.

17:04 <BADarklighter> ok

17:04 <BADarklighter> im really new to linux... installed it on an older system about 3 days ago

17:04 <BADarklighter> sorry if this is something really trivial

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17:05 <MTughan> No problem. It's possible the client is configured to start on startup, and you just need to restart. I've never used the package on Fedora, so I have to confirm that.

17:05 <Niklas_E> anyone know if 6.4.5 is broken for gentoo?

17:06 <BADarklighter> ok i uninstalled it and reinstalled just the client and manager. ill restart and see what happens

17:07 <BADarklighter> be right back. ill type that command in again and see what happens

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17:08 <MTughan> Yep, it seems to be installed as a startup item...

17:08 <MTughan> Oops.

17:08 <Niklas_E> &whatis gentoo

17:08 <Romulus> Niklas_E: Error: No factoid matches that key.

17:09 <MTughan> Niklas_E: What makes you think 6.4.5 is broken? Is it something BOINC is doing?

17:09 <Niklas_E> welll it won't install under gentoo.

17:09 <Niklas_E> http://pastebin.com/db65951

17:10 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

17:10 <MTughan> That seems to be trying to build the example applications... Are you compiling the client, application libraries, or the server?

17:10 <Niklas_E> maybe is it just the ebuild (hopefully)

17:11 <Niklas_E> should build the server and client.

17:11 <Niklas_E> that is X and server

17:12 <MTughan> Is this from a package manager or equivalent? (I don't use Gentoo, so I don't know what it uses)

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17:12 <BADarklighter> ok rebooted

17:13 <Niklas_E> well, I thinks it uses it's own package manager, and compileing it

17:14 <BADarklighter> slightly different output this time

17:14 <BADarklighter> capetsch  2694  0.0  0.1   4212   700 pts/0    S+   16:12   0:00 grep boinc

17:14 <BADarklighter> still dont think its running

17:15 <MTughan> No, it isn't. I got it running here, but I had to start it manually... Looks like it may be a package install bug.

17:15 <MTughan> Also had to do a slight amount of configuration before it would run.

17:16 <BADarklighter> .... im really not sure how to do that

17:17 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm going to see if I can look up some more information.

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17:17 <MTughan> It's partially a configuration problem and a permissions problem.

17:17 <BADarklighter> is this a bug on the installer or something that is a default issue with Fedora?

17:18 <MTughan> Probably with the installer.

17:19 <BADarklighter> ok

17:20 <MTughan> But to just get BOINC running... I'll give you a couple commands in a minute or so. They'll all have to be done as root, but it's only a one time thing.

17:21 <BADarklighter> ok

17:21 <MTughan> Hmm, if they worked...

17:32 <BADarklighter> any luck?

17:32 <MTughan> Just reading up... Apparently, this is how it's supposed to work, oddly enough.

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17:33 <MTughan> Well, I'll walk you through the basic configuration.

17:33 <BADarklighter> ok

17:33 <MTughan> As root, you'll want to edit /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg to a password you can remember. This will be what's used by the manager to the client.

17:34 <MTughan> Actually, hold off on that...

17:35 <MTughan> That's what I was missing...

17:35 <MTughan> Well, if you edited the file already, that's fine. It'll work either way.

17:36 <BADarklighter> havent yet

17:36 <MTughan> All right.

17:36 <MTughan> As root: "chmod 0640 /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg"

17:37 <BADarklighter> ummm.....

17:37 <BADarklighter> chmod: cannot access `/var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg': No such file or directory

17:37 <MTughan> As yourself: "ln -s /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~"

17:37 <MTughan> Hmm...

17:37 <MTughan> Does the directory /var/lib/boinc exist?

17:38 <BADarklighter> checking now

17:38 <MTughan> "ls -l /var/lib/boinc" will tell you.

17:38 <BADarklighter> yes but theres nothing there

17:38 <MTughan> Oh, I know why... Stupid me.

17:39 <MTughan> As root: "/sbin/chkconfig boinc-client on"

17:39 <MTughan> That'll make BOINC start when your computer starts up.

17:39 <MTughan> Then for a quick start without having to restart, as root: "/sbin/service boinc-client start"

17:40 <BADarklighter> comes up with a lot of failed to make system link and a few permission denyed

17:40 <BADarklighter> wait

17:40 <MTughan> Make sure you do it as root, not yourself.

17:41 <BADarklighter> ok

17:41 <BADarklighter> done

17:41 <MTughan> The "/sbin/service boinc-client start" too?

17:42 <BADarklighter> ok

17:42 <MTughan> All right...

17:42 <BADarklighter> it tells me that there are no projects attached.. obviously

17:42 <MTughan> As root: "chmod 0640 /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg"

17:42 <BADarklighter> says starting boinc clint as damenon

17:42 <MTughan> As yourself: "ln -s /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~"

17:42 <MTughan> Yep, that's fine.

17:43 <BADarklighter> ok done

17:43 <BADarklighter> ln: creating symbolic link `/home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth.cfg': File exists

17:43 <MTughan> All right, one more thing... You have to add yourself to the boinc group.

17:43 <MTughan> Well, if it already exists, that's fine.

17:44 <BADarklighter> ok

17:44 <BADarklighter> added to the boinc group

17:44 <MTughan> Actually, make sure... "ls -l ~/gui_rpc_auth.cfg" should print something like "gui_rpc_auth.cfg -> /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg". Does it?

17:45 <BADarklighter> -rw------- 1 root root 32 2009-02-01 15:44 /home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth.cfg

17:46 <MTughan> Hmm... Well, let's rename it for now. It doesn't seem to be the right one.

17:46 <BADarklighter> ok

17:46 <MTughan> As root: "mv ~/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~/gui_rpc_auth_old.cfg"

17:46 <MTughan> Needs to be root because the file's owned by root.

17:47 <BADarklighter> ok complete

17:47 <MTughan> Do "ln -s /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~" again.

17:48 <BADarklighter> as root?

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17:48 <MTughan> Sorry, dunno what happened there...

17:48 <MTughan> No, doesn't need to be root.

17:48 <BADarklighter> ok : ln: creating symbolic link `/home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth.cfg': File exists

17:49 <MTughan> Do the ls -l on the file again?

17:49 <BADarklighter> -rw------- 1 root root 32 2009-02-01 15:44 /home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth.cfg

17:50 <BADarklighter> am i doing something wrong ?

17:50 <MTughan> You did do "mv ~/gui_rpc_auth.cfg ~/gui_rpc_auth_old.cfg"

17:50 <MTughan> , right?

17:50 <BADarklighter> yes

17:50 <BADarklighter> as root

17:50 <MTughan> What does "ls -l ~/gui_rpc_auth_old.cfg" say?

17:51 <BADarklighter> as root: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-02-01 16:42 /root/gui_rpc_auth_old.cfg -> /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg

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17:52 <MTughan> Odd, that's what I was looking for before...

17:52 <BADarklighter> afk switching laundry over.. brb

17:52 <MTughan> Oh, wait.

17:53 <MTughan> Sorry, didn't mean wait for me.

17:54 <MTughan> As root: "mv /home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth.cfg /home/capetsch/gui_rpc_auth_old.cfg", then "ln -s /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg /home/capetsch"

17:54 <MTughan> Forgot that ~ points to a different directory as root. :P

17:55 <BADarklighter> ok. comands complete

17:55 <MTughan> Good. Now, there's just one more thing.

17:55 <MTughan> System->Administration->Users and Groups

17:56 <BADarklighter> ok

17:56 <MTughan> Enter your root password in the prompt, then click your name in the list, and click Properties in the toolbar at the top.

17:56 <MTughan> Go to the Groups tab, and check the box to the left of "boinc".

17:57 <MTughan> After that, log out and log back in, and it should work.

17:57 <BADarklighter> ok

17:57 <BADarklighter> give me a second and ill let you know

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17:57 <MTughan> Well, that was fun...

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18:00 <MTughan> xcamel: I can't reach lledgerock.com.

18:04 <BADarklighter> where did you find those directions at?

18:04 <MTughan> What, for editing and such?

18:05 <BADarklighter> editing and fixing BOINC like that ?

18:05 <MTughan> Part of it was my own experience, and then I also combined instructions from http://boinc.berkely.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora

18:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/arzgzb> (at boinc.berkely.edu)

18:05 <BADarklighter> incase i have to use do it again

18:05 <MTughan> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora *

18:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bg9rjz> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

18:05 <KathrynM> One more reason not to use the package manager :-)

18:05 <MTughan> I misspelled berkeley... :P

18:05 <KathrynM> mornin

18:06 <MTughan> 'lo Kathy

18:06 <KathrynM> I have sound again.

18:06 <KathrynM> latest kernel seemed to fix that bug.

18:06 <MTughan> Very nice. :)

18:06 * CoderOnTheCouch waves to KathrynM

18:06 <KathrynM> yup

18:06 <KathrynM> KathrynM waves to CoderOnTheCouch

18:07 <MTughan> KathrynM: Try "/me waves to CoderOnTheCouch"

18:07 <BADarklighter> thank you so much

18:07 <KathrynM> I knew that :)

18:07 <KathrynM> brain isn't quite awake yet

18:08 <MTughan> BADarklighter: No problem. I normally install using just the binary tars (or whatever they use) from the site, this was my first experience with the packages. :P

18:08 <KathrynM> I'll trade my Monday morning for someone's Sunday evening.

18:08 <MTughan> Not anytime soon! xD

18:08 <BADarklighter> i have no clue how to do any of this ... think its time go invest 50 bucks on either linux bible or fedora bible

18:09 <BADarklighter> will this make it start on boot as well?

18:09 <MTughan> lol... BADarklighter: Most of my experience is just fooling around, and then Googling for when I want to do something else that I don't know how to do yet.

18:09 <MTughan> The /sbin/chkconfig command seems to make it start on startup, from what I can tell of the files it edited.

18:09 <BADarklighter> i can fool around on windows but linux ... im still timid

18:10 <MTughan> There's not a huge amount you can do to the system while not root. As root... Well, there's more. :)

18:10 <xcamel> root=god

18:10 <MTughan> I once deleted the kernel on my Mac by having a typo while as root.

18:10 <xcamel> usually means wrecking wverything...

18:11 <MTughan> xcamel: lledgerock.com seems to be down.

18:11 <KathrynM> Believe me, it's pretty hard to really break anything if you're not root.

18:11 <MTughan> Except your own account. Maybe make another account that you can just play around in and scrap if you f*** something up.

18:11 <KathrynM> And if you're editing config files, well, make sure there are no typos before you reboot.

18:12 <KathrynM> Kernel panic anyone?

18:12 <MTughan> xD

18:12 <BADarklighter> is that were the "i am root, obey me" comes from ?

18:12 <KathrynM> But even that was easily fixed by booting to a LiveCD.

18:12 <MTughan> Dunno if I've ever caused a kernel panic with config files, but I've screwed up X.

18:12 <MTughan> BADarklighter: http://www.xkcd.com/149/

18:12 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Sandwich (at www.xkcd.com)

18:13 <xcamel> tell me something I didn't know, Mike..

18:13 <MTughan> "sudo <command>" is used to run <command> as root from any other account without having to switch to root beforehand.

18:13 <BADarklighter> LOL

18:13 <BADarklighter> thasts fun'

18:13 <meglaw_> xkcd <3

18:14 <BADarklighter> su is all ive been using .. dont know any other way

18:14 <MTughan> By default, sudo requires a bit of configuration on Fedora, but it's used all the time on Ubuntu.

18:14 <KathrynM> that xkcd is great

18:15 <MTughan> He says it's the most popular one he's ever done... I believe him. :P

18:16 <BADarklighter> i thought about installing Ubuntu but went with Fedora for the security ..

18:16 <MTughan> Both are quite secure. I've just always used Fedora for a primarly Linux OS. Using Win7 beta for now.

18:16 <xcamel> I'm trying to reinstall fc8 on a server... not much luck so far..

18:17 <MTughan> And for reference... I started with Fedora Core 4 or 5. Long time ago.

18:18 <KathrynM> I ended up with Fedora because the person helping me was a Fedora person.  It was kinda difficult for me to translate some of the RH speak to Deb speak.  I'm happy with my decision.

18:19 <BADarklighter> as long as i register the clients under my name. all the computers i install it on will register on my account correct?

18:19 <xcamel> I had a nicely bulletproof system - until the LVM took a powder...

18:21 <MTughan> BADarklighter: If I understand you right, not quite.

18:22 <MTughan> First, you create an account on a project using an email address and password. When you attach subsequent clients to that project, you select that you have an existing account there, and enter that email address and password again.

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18:27 <BADarklighter> right

18:28 <BADarklighter> but if i attach under the same email on multiple computers will it all register under that account?

18:28 <MTughan> Yes.

18:28 <MTughan> Any project you're attaching to specifically?

18:32 <xcamel> looks like I have a fair chance of spitting out a good FC10 dvd

18:32 <BADarklighter> seti for the time being .... i cant spare much more processor power at the moment.. im working on puting up a dedicated BOINC computer with the intent of thats all it will do day in and day out

18:33 <MTughan> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php is the link IIRC>

18:33 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

18:33 <BADarklighter> i dont know if i want to run Linux or Windows on it though. ive heard linux offeres better processing times though

18:33 <MTughan> Yep. You sign in there and you can see your stats, including computers, the workunits your computers have computed, and any problems they may have encountered.

18:34 <BADarklighter> back at it again after 6 months of being down... first time sence 2001 sence i havent processeed any units

18:35 <MTughan> Heh. I just switched from a P4 I had been crunching with since May 2005 to a Core 2 Quad. Huge jump in processing power, not including the 33% overclock I've applied. xD

18:36 <KathrynM> yay!  simap has work

18:36 <BADarklighter> used to use a FX-60 oced but the motherboard broke now i have to RMA it and then that one will be back up and runnign again ... wanna see if i can conviece asus to sell me a cupple more for backups and one to use for the FX-53 i used to run for the boinc one i was telling you about. probably turn this old clunker into a sonicwall firewall

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18:40 <BADarklighter> if i close down the manager will the client still be running in the background ?

18:40 <MTughan> Yes.

18:41 <BADarklighter> cool so that doesnt change

18:57 <jasong> Okay, someone explain to me why, with all the computing power in the world today, we can't have composite angles during a football challenge.

18:58 <jasong> Makes no sense to me

18:58 <Killerbong> cos fotball (all big sports) is the means of keeping the public stupid and dumb.

18:58 <Killerbong> smart ppl dont waste energy on it unless it pays.

18:58 <jasong> ah, now that makes sense

18:59 <jasong> In a way, that's the explanation I give for the existence of Windows

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19:09 <xcamel> close enough on winduhs

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19:24 <KathrynM> laters.  off to the germ factory

19:25 <MTughan> Seeya KathrynM.

19:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> late ditto

20:01 * CoderOnTheCouch slams the laptop closed

20:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> gn from here

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20:09 <zombie67> does project reset, reset the LTD?

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21:51 <Soul_keeper> Take that BHO !!!  cardinals take the lead !

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22:11 <Soul_keeper> bla

22:27 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, you get all you systems running now ?

22:28 <MTughan> Yes.

22:28 <Soul_keeper> good

22:40 <MTughan> The quad won't be 24/7 for a while though. Need to cycle it to let the thermal paste set, and I'll be overclocking further. With a 4-5C drop across all cores already, I have more headroom.

22:53 <Soul_keeper> cool

22:55 <zombie67> pirates won't give any work to 6.6.0

22:55 <zombie67> grrrr

22:55 <Soul_keeper> butt pirates ?

22:55 <zombie67> 6.6.3 is completely broken

22:56 <zombie67> bone smugglers!

22:56 <Soul_keeper> i'm still using 6.5.0  it has a few bugs, but they are minor

22:56 <jasong> Has anyone ever used RFID to keep from losing stuff?  I figure it'd be easier to run around with a scanner told to beep when it detects a certain tag then to search for the same item, especially if the item is buried in one of 10 billion boxes

22:56 <zombie67> yeah, but I just moved all my machines back to 6.6.0

22:56 * jasong is just killing time

22:56 * MTughan uses 6.2.19

22:56 <zombie67> and it is a long painful process, since cels and aqua don't checkpoint

22:57 <zombie67> and they are LONG tasks

22:57 <Soul_keeper> jasong, i'd do that if i could afford it,  i wish i could  Search for text  in my house like on a computer

22:57 <Soul_keeper> reading paperback books makes me angry anymore, just because of the no search feature

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23:32 <jasong> Soul_keeper, did you hear that Amazon may be releasing a new e-reader on the 9th?

23:32 <Soul_keeper> yeah

23:32 <Soul_keeper> they cost about as much as a laptop ...

23:32 <jasong> Well, if it's color and can be written on, I might buy it

23:33 <jasong> Not immediately, though, I need more of a cushion for my finances

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23:53 <jasong> Is there a compression method that can decrease the size of video files?

23:54 <Soul_keeper> not really

23:55 <Soul_keeper> unless you convert them to a more compressed format

23:55 <Soul_keeper> most compression will just compress the header or whatever small amount of text is in the video file, saving very little

23:56 <jasong> That's what I figured, but I also figured it would be a good idea to ask

23:59 <Soul_keeper> i wish i didn't have holes in my pants/shirt ...

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