IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-02-09

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00:12 <Kalumba> &whatis Linux

00:12 <Romulus> Kalumba: "Linux" could be

00:13 <MTughan> rofl... That's way out of date.

00:13 <Kalumba> 6.2.15?

00:13 <Kalumba> That's rather old

00:13 * Kalumba is running 6.4.5

00:13 <MTughan> For the 6.2.x series, 6.2.19 is latest. For latest stable overall, it was 6.4.5 last I heard.

00:13 <MTughan> I run 6.2.19 on all my machines.

00:14 <Kalumba> 6.2.19 is Debian stable and 6.4.5 is Ubuntu stable?

00:14 <MTughan> Hmm... Actually, it looks like 6.2.15 is the latest stable for Linux from the 6.2.x series.

00:14 <MTughan> And I have no idea about individual distro packages.

00:15 <Kalumba> There is a 6.4.5 Debian/Ubuntu package at

00:16 <Kalumba> and Berkley's websites lists 6.4.5 as the latest version

00:16 <MTughan> 6.4.5 is the latest stable.

00:17 <MTughan> 6.2.15 is apparently the version in the package for Fedora.

00:18 <Kalumba> I have a question. Is anyone running Seti@home?

00:18 <MTughan> I'm currently running Win7 as my main OS, so I had to boot a VM with F10 in it.

00:18 <MTughan> I used to. I believe xcamel is, since he complained about a 100+ hour Astropulse WU earlier today.

00:19 <Kalumba> hehe, to make those complaints go away he should try the optimized client from

00:19 <Romulus> Title: Seti@Home optimized science apps and information (at

00:19 <Kalumba> cuts crunching time drastically

00:19 <MTughan> I asked him if SETI was going the way of CPDN. :P

00:20 <MTughan> I think they've got a couple months to go, but they're on their way.

00:22 <MTughan> O_O Steve Wozniak is apparently on Dancing with the Stars...

00:22 <Kalumba> The reason I ask is because I am running the optimized version and the app_info.xml file that came with it only had the optimized client in it and not the enhanced (standard) client so now seti@home tells me that my app_info.xml file has no entry for that client. Any help I can get to fix that would be greatly appriciated

00:23 <MTughan> You'll need to modify the app_info to add the entry for the other application name.

00:24 <Kalumba> It sounds easy but when I stare at the file itself it doesn't look easy. Is there any place I can look at a reference xml file?

00:25 <Kalumba> I see <app>, <file_info> and <file_ref> there

00:25 <MTughan> is probably the closest you can get, at least from BOINC itself.

00:25 <Romulus> <> (at

00:28 <Kalumba> Excellent. That was a step in the right direction, but unfortunately it lists one client, namely the setiathome_enhanced. I would like to have setiathome_enhanced and astropulse-5.0.i686-pc-linux-gnu in it so that I can crunch normal WUs as well as astropulse units

00:28 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

00:28 <MTughan> I think you need two <app> and <app_version> sections then.

00:29 <Kalumba> all within the <app_info>, right?

00:29 <MTughan> Correct.

00:30 <Kalumba> no wonder boinc was complaining about the missing asetiathome_enhanced client

00:30 <MTughan> XML only defines one root element, so to have two <app_info>s would break XML spec. Like BOINC would care though...

00:30 * Kalumba merrily edits his app_info.xml file

00:30 <MTughan> Keep a backup. :P

00:30 <Kalumba> I'm editing a copy

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00:32 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

00:32 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 39F / 4C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1024hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Clear and breezy. Lows in the lower 30s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 30s. (1 more message)

00:32 <XioNYC> &more

00:32 <Romulus> XioNYC: Southeast winds around 5 mph.;

00:33 <Tank_Master> &wx pdx

00:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41F / 5C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely. Snow level 1000 feet. No snow accumulation. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Snow level 1000 feet. Highs around 40. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

00:33 <Tank_Master> &more

00:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 30 to 35. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

00:34 <Tank_Master> o0? snow!!!!! :D

00:34 <Kalumba> hmmm...what to do with the function <main_program/>?

00:34 <Kalumba> will both clients be <main_program/>?

00:34 <MTughan> Yes.

00:39 <Kalumba> and TAB is used instead of SPACE?

00:39 <MTughan> No idea. Ideally, it doesn't matter. One sec.

00:40 <Kalumba> it just makes it more neat to read for me

00:40 <MTughan> I have an app_info that gets parsed fine and uses spaces.

00:41 <Kalumba> then I will guess it doesn't matter as long as the syntax is ok

00:41 * Kalumba is going to test the newly created xml file

00:45 <Tank_Master> gl

00:45 <MTughan> 'lo TM

00:45 <Tank_Master> howdy MT

00:46 <MTughan> Do you run S@H?

00:49 <Tank_Master> me?

00:49 <Tank_Master> no

00:49 <Tank_Master> havent in years

00:53 <efc> moo

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01:18 <Tidus> oom

01:19 <MTughan> 'lo efc, Tidus

01:20 <Tidus> howdy MTughan

01:20 <efc> zz

01:24 <Tank_Master> uuhhh

01:24 <Tank_Master> crap

01:25 <Tank_Master> I had gpugrid set to NNW, and it still d/led work

01:26 <Tank_Master> this is on 6.6.4 x64

01:27 <MTughan> Holy crap, Vista takes a while to load even just the Task Manager...

01:27 <Kalumba> Tank_Master, isn't that a very unstable developer version?

01:28 <Tank_Master> jah

01:28 <Tank_Master> would appear so

01:28 <Tank_Master> though I wouldnt say "vary"

01:28 <Tank_Master> thats the only probe I have seen with it

01:29 <Kalumba> keep livin' on the edge, man

01:30 <Tank_Master> why not?

01:30 <Tank_Master> cant learn if you dont

01:33 <Kalumba> yeah, learn of all the bugs so us timid folks can avoid them :)

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01:52 <Tidus> i must say kde 4.2 is fairly nice

01:52 <Tidus> much better than 4.1.x

01:59 <MTughan> Odd... Milkyway's unofficial GPU app for ATI says I don't have a compatible GPU. But I have the highest one supported by the app.

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02:28 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, for linux ?

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03:17 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 30.0F / -1.1C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds...becoming light east winds.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of (1 more message)

03:18 <CoderForLife> &more

03:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: showers in the evening...then mostly cloudy with showers likely after midnight. Warmer with lows in the lower 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

03:23 <ELGono> moo don

03:29 <CoderForLife> moo ELGono

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03:35 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

03:48 * KathrynM hopes those are fireworks being set off before dark rather than bombs

03:48 * CoderForLife agrees

03:48 <CoderForLife> I hate bombs before dark

03:49 * KathrynM survived monday

03:49 <CoderForLife> there's hope after all

03:49 <KathrynM> a bit

03:50 <CoderForLife> what did you do with the sun?  could you send it this way?

03:50 <KathrynM> it never came out today

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03:50 <CoderForLife> somebody lost the sun

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03:52 <KathrynM> smells like fireworks

03:52 <CoderForLife> if it was bombs, you wouldn't be smelling at all

03:53 <KathrynM> true

03:53 * KathrynM tries to look on the bright side

03:53 <CoderForLife> that's wherever the sun went

03:54 <KathrynM> ah

04:15 <ELGono> hehe looks the way i'm guilty

04:15 <ELGono> at least some sun here

04:16 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

04:16 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:32 F.; Snow. Low:30 F.; Chance of Snow. High:35 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:22 F.;

04:30 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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05:22 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

05:22 <CoderForLife> laterz

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06:17 <Tank_Master> &wx pdx

06:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 37F / 3C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1011hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely. Snow level 1000 feet. No snow accumulation. Lows around 35. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Snow level 1000 feet. Highs around 40. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

06:17 <Tank_Master> &more

06:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 30 to 35. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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10:02 <MTughan_> Soul_keeper: Nope, for Windows.

10:05 <Soul_keeper> lame

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10:05 <MTughan_> Apparently that error means the CAL libraries weren't found.

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10:26 <MTughan> Ouch!

10:26 <Romulus> <> (at

10:28 <Soul_keeper>

10:28 <Romulus> Title: GPU Technology for Accelerated Computing (at

10:29 <Soul_keeper>

10:29 <Romulus> <> (at

10:30 <Soul_keeper>

10:30 <Romulus> <> (at

10:30 <Soul_keeper> i bookmark everything of value :)

10:32 <MTughan> Apparently the CAL drivers come with Cat 8.12 or later though.

10:32 <MTughan> I tried with both 8.12 and 9.1.

10:32 <Soul_keeper> did you properly uninstall any old drivers ?

10:33 <MTughan> 8.12 was the first driver installed on this system.

10:33 <Soul_keeper> then something is probably buggy

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10:42 <MTughan> Taking about Win7 Starter's three app restriction: "We ran a study which suggested that the average consumer has open just over two applications [at any time]. We would expect the limit of three applications wouldn't affect many people."

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10:44 <MTughan_> Taking about Win7 Starter's three app restriction: "We ran a study which suggested that the average consumer has open just over two applications [at any time]. We would expect the limit of three applications wouldn't affect many people."

10:44 <MTughan_> Apparently, that limit also includes background applications, but excludes AV.

10:44 <MTughan_> Using that definition, I have 13 applications open. >_>

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10:45 <Soul_keeper>

10:45 <Romulus> <> (at

10:45 <Soul_keeper>

10:46 <Romulus> <> (at

10:47 <MTughan> Yep, the Slashdot article is where I got that from.

10:48 <MTughan> lol on the BBSpot story.

11:00 <MTughan>

11:00 <Romulus> <> (at

11:01 <MTughan>

11:01 <Romulus> Title: Another new Core i7 may arrive next quarter - The Tech Report (at

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11:03 <Soul_keeper> i hate i7 just cause

11:03 <Soul_keeper> tired of intel

11:04 <MTughan> Thinking of a Phenom II?

11:04 <Soul_keeper> btw there is a forum post of someone benchmarking amd's soon to be released am3

11:04 <MTughan> Or any new hardware?

11:04 <Soul_keeper> yeah it's likely due out this month or next

11:05 <Soul_keeper>

11:05 <Romulus> <> (at

11:05 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw it.

11:05 <Soul_keeper> in a 150 dollar price range would be excellent

11:05 <Soul_keeper> intel has gotten too fat

11:06 <MTughan> You mean the $300-some price for the lowest i7?

11:07 <Soul_keeper> i mean they've just gotten to fat, too much of the market share for too little of the advantage

11:08 <Soul_keeper> people happily pay a 50% premium for 5% more performance or whatever

11:08 <MTughan> Agreed. It's not too bad with the Core 2's now (I got my Q6600 for $240), but the Core i7's are overpriced.

11:09 <Soul_keeper> btw i heard sony will be doing a die shrink to 45nm on their ps3's

11:09 <Soul_keeper> i7 is just the prescott reincarnated imo

11:09 <MTughan> Heh, you mean with HT?

11:09 <Soul_keeper> it don't impress me

11:09 <Soul_keeper> yeah amoung other things

11:10 <MTughan> It's better than the 140W TDP Phenom's AMD had for a while.

11:10 <Soul_keeper> i suppose

11:10 <Soul_keeper> i'm just gonna shy away from intel for awhile tho, i miss running something else

11:11 <Soul_keeper> i've had like 5 intel systems since my last amd

11:11 <Soul_keeper> err 6

11:11 <MTughan> I was considering a Phenom or Phenom II for a while, but the Phenom performance was dismal at best compared to a similarly priced and overclockable Q6600, and I wasn't sure how Phenom II would perform when it came out.

11:11 <Soul_keeper> time for a change

11:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah

11:12 <MTughan> Remember, I got the CPU, MB, and RAM for a present. For me to have done a PII system would've required buying an AM2+ board and the RAM beforehand, and then going on a PII when released.

11:12 <Soul_keeper> well soon as they pass the c2q in performance, if you havn't already picked up an i7, then it would be a worthy upgrade for someone looking to upgrade

11:12 <MTughan> Would still need a new MB.

11:13 <Soul_keeper> ahhh

11:13 <MTughan> Remember, I went for C2Q. Means it's a LGA775 board. I don't own an AM2+ board.

11:14 <Soul_keeper> well i see no point in upgrading just the cpu in my system, it's already 45nm

11:15 <MTughan> C2Q Yorkfield?

11:15 <MTughan> Ah, the Q9450...

11:15 <Soul_keeper> yup

11:16 <Soul_keeper> same as the new q9650 or whatever

11:16 <MTughan> Too many names now. :P

11:17 <MTughan> Yeah, the only reason I could really see to get an i7 over something else is either HT or QuickPath.

11:17 <MTughan> The memory bandwidth numbers even eclipse AMD's.

11:18 <MTughan> Hmm, I don't think the Q9650 is the same as the 9450... Aside from the difference in their part numbers. :P

11:18 <MTughan> Looks like the 9650 is rated for 3GHz.

11:19 <Soul_keeper> same core

11:19 <Soul_keeper> just slightly different clock

11:20 <MTughan> Yeah, higher multiplier.

11:20 <Soul_keeper> i payed 300 for a q9450 over a year ago, it's still the same price

11:21 <MTughan> I can't find any info on the Q9450 at the store where I usually go to. I see a Q9400 and a Q9550, but no 9450.

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11:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah they stopped selling it when they came out with the 9550/9650

11:22 <MTughan> That is highly annoying...

11:22 <Soul_keeper> but essentially the same thing, just a gimick to get more money

11:23 <MTughan> Considering I see the Q9550 for $370CDN.

11:23 <MTughan> &currency convert 370 CAD to USD

11:23 <Romulus> MTughan: 370.00 cad = 303.62 usd

11:23 <MTughan> About the same price then.

11:24 <Soul_keeper> yeah if the q9450 was on the market it would have to go like 100 bucks cheaper or whatever, they didn't want to do that

11:24 <MTughan> And don't even talk about C2E...

11:24 <MTughan> &currency convert 1816 CAD to USD

11:24 <Romulus> MTughan: 1816.00 cad = 1490.03 usd

11:24 <MTughan> For a QX9770.

11:24 <Soul_keeper> yeah those are just stupid

11:25 <Soul_keeper> same thing as the q9450 as well

11:25 <Soul_keeper> same cache and everything

11:25 <MTughan> Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel inclined to pay almost 2 grand for a processor.

11:25 <MTughan> The QX9770 has a 1600MHz FSB.

11:25 <Soul_keeper> especially if it overclocks the same as a 300 dollar cpu that was purchased a year ago

11:26 <Soul_keeper> 1600 fsb means nothing, no architectural changes

11:26 <MTughan> Nope.

11:26 <MTughan> At least the QX9650 is "more reasonable".

11:26 <MTughan> &currency convert 1310 CAD to USD

11:26 <Romulus> MTughan: 1310.00 cad = 1074.99 usd

11:26 <MTughan> Still absurd.

11:27 <MTughan> Anyway, I have to be off...

11:27 <Soul_keeper> i think i'm running 1600fsb now :)

11:27 <Soul_keeper> ok later

11:27 <MTughan> I can run 1600FSB, just not with the default multiplier. :P

11:28 <Soul_keeper> you can change your mult ?

11:28 <Soul_keeper> i can't change mine

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11:29 <MTughan_> The desktop will keep you company. I need to take the laptop with me.

11:29 <MTughan_> Ah. I can change the multiplier down, anywhere from 6-9x.

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11:31 <MTughan> Anyway, I'll see you later.

11:32 <Soul_keeper> ok

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12:44 <MTughan> Back.

12:45 <Soul_keeper> good work

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12:50 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

12:50 <hawmps> hi

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12:59 <MTughan> Looks like MilkyWay is down again...

13:08 <hawmps> seems so

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13:50 <MTughan> Apparently 6.4.5 is now the latest package for Fedora...

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14:19 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I got 9 more credits than you yesterday. xD

14:19 <Soul_keeper> good

14:20 <MTughan> 10612 < 10621

14:31 <Tank_Master> those looke like the same numbers

14:32 <Tank_Master> both have 2 1s, a 0, a6 and a 2

14:35 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, you around ?

14:36 <jasong> Was this where I mentioned I was excited about the new Kindle?  Either way, it was a flaming disappointment.  Not only is the new one not in color, they're discontinuing the old one and the price isn't going to change by even one cent

14:42 * Tank_Master detects a hint of disapointment

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14:47 <hawmps> they tried color - takes too much memory - not as readable as the b&w

14:47 <Tank_Master> yeah

14:47 <Tank_Master> and memory is extreamly expensive...

14:48 <hawmps> My wife loves hers...

14:48 <hawmps> no.. the wireless bandwidth to fill it is....

14:49 <hawmps> and the current display is one of the most energy efficient designs there is..

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14:49 <hawmps> better battery life

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15:11 <jasong> Is it worth $359 in your opinion?

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15:18 <hawmps> that was her choice

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15:23 <jasong> Wow, I just saw one hell of a netsplit

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15:28 <ELGono> lol i just rejoined cause client went fubar

15:28 <ELGono> thought my client is still wicked

15:28 <ELGono> so it was a split ;)

15:29 <ELGono> ran out of space on system disk.... system was like frozen

15:29 <ELGono> but could handle it without reboot .... just took a while waiting for console to open

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15:53 <xcamel> splitzh!

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15:55 <xcamel> big split!

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16:00 <ELGono> looks like Dr. Splitsky is still doing some cuts

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16:01 <xcamel> something still isn't working right

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16:01 <xcamel> ah.. there it goes.

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16:03 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:03 <MTughan> MW back up.

16:03 <MTughan> On MW, or something else?

16:05 <MTughan> jasong:

16:05 <Romulus> Title: Hands on with Kindle 2: what a difference a screen makes - Ars Technica (at

16:06 <xcamel> yes, it's back up.

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16:11 <xcamel> nice kindle review

16:12 <xcamel> sheesh...

16:20 <xcamel> damn..

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16:24 <xcamel> long split that time..

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16:27 <Soul_keeper> what cpu did they put in the kindle2 ?

16:27 <MTughan> Doesn't give any specific specs. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same.

16:28 <jasong> lol, crunching on the Kindle would be slow, but if it can be done easily I might try it

16:28 <ELGono> lol

16:28 <xcamel> I think it's proprietary

16:28 <MTughan> Wikipedia says it's based off of Linux 2.6.10.

16:28 <ELGono> reminds me back the times i ran boinc on M$ xbox

16:28 <jasong> I'm stupid, what Linux version is common now?

16:28 <MTughan> 2.6.28?

16:28 <jasong> nm, I'll just look at the About on mine

16:28 <jasong> ah, so fairly recent

16:28 <MTughan> I know 2.6.27 is the earliest version that contains the wireless drivers for my laptop. :P

16:28 <ELGono>  2009-02-06 23:30 UTC

16:28 <ELGono> stable

16:28 <MTughan> Yep.

16:29 <MTughan> jasong: But I believe the 2.6.x series has been around for a while, and quite stable.

16:29 <jasong> What's the text-based command to find out the Linux version? uname something?

16:29 <MTughan> Hmm, interesting... Fedora 10's latest is only

16:29 <MTughan> uname -a will show everything.

16:29 <MTughan> uname -r for just the version.

16:29 <jasong> here

16:29 <xcamel> that's still a good kernel

16:30 <ELGono> g091 1# uname -a

16:30 <ELGono> IRIX g091 5.2 02282013 IP12 mips

16:30 <xcamel> here

16:30 <ELGono> wich should be dated to 1991

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16:30 <ELGono> oldest OS i still run on a box

16:30 <ELGono> but i runs diskless from a server in the basement ;)

16:30 <MTughan> jasong: Yeah, 2.6.0 was released in December 2003.

16:30 <ELGono> hehe no doubt that 2.6 is stable

16:31 <MTughan> lol... Linux 0.01 had 10,239 lines of code. 2.6.0 had 5,929,913, and 2.6.28 has 10,195,402. xD

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16:31 <xcamel> 'lo K

16:32 <MTughan> 'lo Kathy

16:32 <ELGono> Linux matrix 2.6.20-gentoo-r6 here ... rockstable (heavy load webserver)

16:33 <MTughan> I think I remember reading in a magazine that "2.6.x Linux is unusually stable."

16:34 <xcamel> any idea how to fix the issue when grub loses the ability to see vga=xxx (hirez boot screens)

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16:35 <xcamel> it seems to be partially an fc8 thing

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16:45 <xcamel> brb

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16:49 <CoderForLife> home again

16:49 <CoderForLife> sombody ping me?

16:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab - din-din

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17:04 <xcamel> &wx 12074

17:04 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 32.4F / 0.2C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 17. West winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of light rain. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)

17:04 <xcamel> &more

17:04 <Romulus> xcamel: percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of light rain in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Patchy fog. Not as cool with lows in the mid 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

17:05 <CoderForLife> 'lo Jay

17:05 <CoderForLife> 60F ATM

17:06 <xcamel> nice,,,

17:06 <xcamel> 'the big melt'

17:06 <CoderForLife> indeed

17:06 <xcamel> we have a really good chance of ice/blackice/freezing rain tomorrow am

17:07 <CoderForLife> un-good

17:07 <xcamel> passed a DUI arrest on the way in to work this morning... 2 sheriff cars TCOB...

17:08 <CoderForLife> heh

17:08 <CoderForLife> what time was that?

17:09 <xcamel> a little after 6 am

17:09 <CoderForLife> man

17:09 <xcamel> uh-huh

17:09 <MTughan> Holy crap... How am I already up almost 7000 credits after the daily?

17:10 <CoderForLife> "SEC's enforcement chief calls it quits"

17:10 <xcamel> tons of MW credit?

17:10 <xcamel> just saw that CFL

17:11 <MTughan> I didn't think I'd crunched 7000 credits worth... One sec.

17:12 <MTughan> 1500 at MW, and an astounding 5500 at ABC... Someone must've reported a heck of a lot of WUs.

17:12 <xcamel> might be a ton of pending pitched in..

17:12 <MTughan> ABC doesn't count pendings because it always grants more than claimed.

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17:27 <ELGono> xcamel : put in vga=ask

17:27 <ELGono> if you want a choice

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17:34 <xcamel> yummy salmon for dinner

17:35 <xcamel> Tried that, ElG

17:35 <xcamel> something is fscking with the video bios

17:39 <CoderForLife> Ooo a news conference

17:40 <CoderForLife> how to lie or say nothing for an hour

17:42 <xcamel> I might try rebooting without the terrabook attached.

17:42 <CoderForLife> good - it doesn't pre-empt "24"

17:42 <xcamel> the usb on this box is pretty picky

17:42 <CoderForLife> USB

17:43 <xcamel> I doubt it..

17:43 <CoderForLife> um, pickier?

17:44 <xcamel> haven't checked for a bios update... doubt there even is one anymore

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17:53 <xcamel> iirc, it's a K8N Neo something..

17:53 <xcamel> getting a little "long in the tooth"

17:58 <ELGono> how does the error appear?

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17:58 <ELGono> wrong resolution?

17:58 <ELGono> or just no change?

17:59 <xcamel> scans and only gets vga modes

18:00 <ELGono> hmm sounds like bios

18:01 <ELGono> tried changing "video bios shadow" options in bios?

18:05 <xcamel> ugh >> Senate Passes Porkulus 61-36

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18:08 <ELGono> timing could be not better, eh?

18:09 <ELGono> was the goodyear women, right?

18:10 <xcamel> badyear for everybody...

18:11 <xcamel> brb

18:11 <ELGono> indeed

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18:11 <ELGono> 20 buckz left for this month

18:11 <CoderForLife> umm it's the 9th, ELGono

18:12 <ELGono> yea

18:12 <ELGono> my little next to study job isn't avaiable at moment

18:13 <ELGono> makes -200 a month

18:13 <CoderForLife> ack $827B

18:13 <CoderForLife> plus interest

18:13 <ELGono> next month a got a new one

18:14 <ELGono> federal office for statistics .... i'll be checking prices in supermarkets

18:14 <ELGono> -be

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18:19 <kathryn_> which one of you jokers sent the sun over here

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18:20 <ELGono> but there is hope ... rented some projectors last week ... but still waiting for money receiving

18:20 <MTughan> KathrynM: What, you're melting?

18:20 * KathrynM needs sleep

18:20 <ELGono> well you can kick it back here... ;)

18:20 <MTughan> Oh, that...

18:20 * MTughan is out to lunch

18:20 <MTughan> Or dinner as the case may be...

18:20 <CoderForLife> hmm

18:20 <ELGono> i'm fed up with snow

18:20 <KathrynM> then again, my brain seems to think dark is awake time

18:21 <wdsmia> re-hi

18:21 <KathrynM> hello hello

18:21 <ELGono> lo D

18:21 <MTughan> Big joining... Doug, Kathy, CFL, and zombie all start talking at once.

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18:21 <zombie67> blah blah blah

18:21 <MTughan> And Jay wants to join in the party...

18:21 <ELGono> hehe don't miss jay

18:22 <zombie67> my Atom components arrive Wednesday

18:22 <CoderForLife> heya hiya

18:22 <MTughan> zombie67: Nice. You'll be keeping me apprised of its progress, right? ;)

18:22 <xcamel> party? I said no anchovies...

18:23 <zombie67> yep

18:23 <CoderForLife> I found the sun this morning, KathrynM

18:23 <MTughan> [18:21:33] <MTughan> Big joining... Doug, Kathy, CFL, and zombie all start talking at once.

18:23 <MTughan> [18:21:37] * xcamel (n=xcamel@pdpc/supporter/gold/xcamel) has joined #boinc

18:23 <zombie67> first experiment will be installing XP64 and running APC 100%

18:23 <zombie67> ABC

18:23 <MTughan> I was wondering how you ran a UPS at 100%... :P

18:24 <KathrynM> If Tuesday goes anything like Monday, you might want to avoid it.

18:24 <xcamel> You've got the wrong man... I spell my name D-A-N-G-E-R

18:24 <zombie67> maybe not

18:24 <zombie67> I already have 1.7M in ABC

18:24 <CoderForLife> if my Tuesday is like my Monday, I'd avoid it too

18:25 <zombie67> I'll think of something

18:25 <xcamel> lol >> Tennessee Republicans throw House speaker Williams out of the party

18:26 <xcamel> Ruthlessly.. (Anyone know where Ruth is?)

18:27 <CoderForLife> Ruth is without Lee

18:28 <zombie67> don't call me surley

18:28 <ELGono> phun stuff ... magnetic duct tape out now

18:30 <xcamel> oops..

18:30 <xcamel> brb

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18:33 <jasong> does ElGono not like me?

18:34 <MTughan> Huh?

18:34 <jasong> Or is it some other Jay?

18:34 <ELGono> ?

18:34 <MTughan> xcamel and ElGono are not the same person...

18:34 <jasong> If you scroll up a few pages, Elgono says he doesn't miss Jay

18:34 <MTughan> Oh, xcamel is Jay.

18:34 <jasong> oh, ok

18:34 <zombie67> 6.6.5 is in the d/l folder

18:34 <MTughan> Your name is Jay too?

18:34 <jasong> Well, my name is jasong

18:35 <jasong> I thought I'd been given a nickname

18:35 <ELGono> hehe dude ... i'm just too long in this channel to know who should be included in a #boinc party

18:35 <MTughan> Ah, no. xcamel's real name is Jay Curtis.

18:35 * KathrynM realized she didn't do her w&%$ homew&%$

18:35 <jasong> ok, no biggie, I was just a little confused

18:36 <jasong> Actually, the last time I had a nickname, it was Goatcher, since that's such a weird-sounding name to most people

18:36 <jasong> (last name)

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18:39 <ELGono> jasong: nevermind ...

18:39 <ELGono> i'm just on the other side of the pond

18:41 <Tank_Master> then why not just walk around it to the other side?

18:41 <ELGono> one day maybe

18:42 <ELGono> always was more attrackted by the east

18:42 <ELGono> still need to explore western europe

18:47 <ELGono> you have been on the other side so far Tank_Master?

18:50 * CoderForLife -> Couch

18:51 * CoderForLife empathizes w/ KathrynM on w@#% homew@#%

18:51 * CoderForLife -> -> Couch

18:51 <MTughan> CoderForLife is springing for the couch double-fast?

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18:56 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

18:56 <xcamel> re-hi

18:57 <xcamel> >> Victoria fires: 173 dead, towns ruined, police chase arsonists

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18:58 <xcamel> sheesh.

18:58 <MTughan> That the PA town that's been "targeted"?

18:58 <xcamel> Australia

18:58 <MTughan> Oh, the wildfires...

18:58 <xcamel> sad stuff

18:59 <MTughan> yeah.

18:59 <MTughan> My shift key seems to stick occasionally...

18:59 * MTughan -> dinner

19:01 <xcamel> ROFLMAO!! >>

19:01 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Crazy imam (at

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19:05 <CoderOnTheCouch> Zzz

19:05 <xcamel> uh-huh

19:06 <jasong> Any Heroes fans on here?

19:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> winter has sucked the life out of me

19:06 <ELGono> word don

19:06 <xcamel> whilst I enjoy the warmer weather

19:07 <jasong> On the last episode, someone got sucked out of the plane while wearing the orange jumpsuit and the headgear, does anyone know who that was?

19:07 <xcamel> 26 seems like a summer night..

19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> &wx 45140

19:07 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Temperature: 52.8F / 11.6C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely...mainly after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the morning. (1 more message)

19:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> &more

19:07 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Highs in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely...mainly after midnight. Mild with lows in the lower 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

19:08 <ELGono> at least cpu is quite cool this winter ;)

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19:08 <ELGono> not more than 35C since 3 month

19:09 <ELGono> mostly at room temp

19:09 <ELGono> now 15,4C cause it's snowing again with heavy winds on the balkony-heat-exchanger

19:10 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

19:10 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 31°F / -1°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999hPa | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 22km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:33 F.; Snow. Low:30 F.; Chance of Snow. High:35 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 F.;

19:17 <xcamel> coooookies...

19:19 <ELGono> hands up you g33ks, if you just thought of NoScript plugin

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19:20 * CoderOnTheCouch finshes some butter popcorn

19:20 <ELGono> just had an apple

19:21 <ELGono> maybe thats why i thought of browser cookies

19:24 <xcamel> choco-chip cookies

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19:35 <zombie67> well crap

19:35 <zombie67> I have seti beta running, and it IS running on my GPU, but a second task is running on my CPU.

19:35 <zombie67> should be GPU only

19:37 <jasong> Did the Porkulus bill pass, or is there still stuff that the "need"(?) to do to pass it?

19:37 <jasong> +y

19:41 <xcamel> needs to go to conference now.

19:41 <jasong> Conference?

19:41 <xcamel> but the 'fsck the future' bill will pass...

19:41 <jasong> Okay that makes two questions

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19:42 <xcamel> between the house and the senate to hammer out the differences

19:42 * jasong needs to read the paper more

19:42 <jasong> okay

19:42 <jasong> What's the second thing you said

19:42 <jasong> the future thing

19:42 <xcamel> read - better source.

19:42 <Romulus> Title: Latest Articles (at

19:42 <jasong> thanks

19:43 <xcamel> Porkulus... "fsck the future"

19:43 <xcamel> because even your grandkids won't be able to pay for it..

19:44 <jasong> ah, ok

19:45 <MTughan> Not the government's fault the stock market fscked themselves over.

19:47 <xcamel> true, if that was what really happened, but it's not.

19:48 <xcamel> government meddling in private enterprise was the biggest culprit

19:49 <MTughan> Can anyone reach BOINCStats?

19:49 <xcamel> As a canadian, you should be intimately familiar with that song...

19:50 <MTughan> Nvm, it's up now.

19:54 <MTughan> Wow... Up 7500 for the day so far. Even if I have a normal night with credits, that means around 15-16,000 tomorrow.

19:55 <MTughan> And I don't have class until 1PM tomorrow because the lab I'd usually have at 9:30 is "cancelled."

19:55 <MTughan> It's been changed to be from an assignment to try out new skills to just being a review. And with the class being on C so far, I'm good. :D

19:59 <MTughan> Heh, I like the S artists apparently... Switchfoot, System of a Down, and Serj Tankian.

20:03 * CoderOnTheCouch watches Obama

20:05 * CoderOnTheCouch wants a bailout

20:06 * xcamel needs a barf bucket

20:06 <MTughan> I think efc said something like "I gotta get myself a piece of this" before...

20:06 <CoderOnTheCouch> gawd, he's a smooth liar

20:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> ROTFLMAO

20:07 <CoderOnTheCouch> no pet projects...    hahahahaha

20:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> i hope the press does their job

20:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> why am I skeptical?

20:10 <zombie67> TM?

20:10 <Romulus> TM is selling a bunch, zombie67

20:10 <zombie67> MT?

20:10 <Romulus> Rumor has it MT is right, zombie67

20:10 <MTughan> Right here.

20:11 <zombie67> I don't understand what DA is saying.

20:11 <zombie67> can you translate?

20:12 <MTughan> Looks like the GPU is included with the resource share for the CPU.

20:12 <MTughan> So if your CPU does x FLOPS, and your GPU does 2x FLOPS, the resource share acts on the whole thing.

20:13 <xcamel> maximum PC mag - Ed Wood called on Nvidia to kill CUDA

20:13 <MTughan> As for the rest of it... I don't know.

20:13 <zombie67> What does this mean then?  "then if the S@h resource share is 2/3 or less of the total, BOINC should eventually run S@h jobs only on the GPU."

20:13 <xcamel> ..and adopt an open standard

20:13 <xcamel> or suffer the fate of 3dfx

20:13 <MTughan> That's the line I'm musing over. If S@H has a 1/3 resource share, it would make sense to only run CPU apps and leave GPU for other stuff.

20:13 <zombie67> my s@h resource share is only 25%

20:13 <zombie67> yet it is running both

20:13 <MTughan> Or is S@H the only GPU project you run on the machine?

20:14 <zombie67> GPUGRID is set to NNW

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20:14 <MTughan> Sorry, I can't make perfect sense of that line.

20:15 <zombie67> and why turn on work fetch debug?  The problem is not with fetching work, it is with running tasks on the wrong processor

20:15 <MTughan> Well, it fetches work based on needs, right?

20:17 <zombie67> fetching work is from the project, right?  the problem is not with that

20:17 <zombie67> work scheduling is the problem

20:17 <MTughan> Agreed.

20:17 <MTughan> But if work fetch doesn't communicate with work scheduling, it could grab CPU tasks as well as GPU tasks, which the scheduler just has to work with then.

20:18 <zombie67> "should eventually run"

20:18 <zombie67> I wonder if that is a round about way of saying it needs to crunch a tack via CPU to be able to make a comaprison

20:18 <MTughan> That's quite possible actually...

20:19 <MTughan> I didn't think of that.

20:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> this guy is spouting a bunch of mealy mouth nothings

20:19 <CoderOnTheCouch> arrggh

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20:20 <xcamel> O'moron..

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20:20 <xcamel> good god... what was the question?

20:23 <xcamel> when does the chicken drop from the ceiling?

20:28 <zombie67> email sent.  was i clear?

20:28 <MTughan> Seems so.

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20:30 <MTughan> rofl...

20:30 <Romulus> <> (at

20:36 <Tank_Master>

20:36 <Romulus> <> (at

21:12 <xcamel> &wx 12074

21:12 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 22.5F / -5.3C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.44in / 1030.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 17. West winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of light rain. Highs in the lower 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)

21:12 <xcamel> &more

21:12 <Romulus> xcamel: percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of light rain in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Patchy fog. Not as cool with lows in the mid 30s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

21:12 <xcamel> yuk

21:12 <MTughan> The fog?

21:26 <xcamel> black ice

21:43 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

21:43 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 53.5F / 11.9C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.38in / 994.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy then becoming mostly cloudy late in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Isolated thunderstorms in the evening. Windy. Low in the mid 40s. South wind 15 to 30 mph. Gusts up to 45 mph (2 more messages)

21:44 <wdsmia> &more

21:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: decreasing to 35 mph after midnight. Chance of thunderstorms 20 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 50s. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain after midnight. Colder. Low in the mid 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the north 10 to 15 mph with gusts (1 more message)

21:44 <wdsmia> &more

21:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: to around 25 mph after midnight.; Wind Advisory for Polk County in effect until 9:00 PM CST on February 09, 2009; Special Weather Statement for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CST on February 09, 2009;

21:45 <Tank_Master> &wx pdx

21:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 37F / 3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening. Isolated thunderstorms in the early evening. Snow level 500 feet. Lows around 30. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - A chance of snow in the morning...then (2 more messages)

21:45 <Tank_Master> &more

21:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: snow...possibly mixed with the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Highs around 35. South wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Rain and snow likely in the evening...then rain and snow showers likely overnight. Snow level 500 feet. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Lows 30 to 35. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Multnomah County in effect until (1 more message)

21:45 <Tank_Master> &more

21:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 7:00 AM PST on February 10, 2009;

21:46 <Tank_Master> waa hoo! snow!!

21:46 <Tank_Master> :D

21:47 <xcamel> take the rest of mine...

21:47 <xcamel> you can have all of it.

21:48 <Tank_Master> sweet! thx!

21:48 <Tank_Master> :P

21:49 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with a slushball

21:50 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia with a mud ball

21:51 <wdsmia> thanks, but already have one named Gregor

21:52 <xcamel> nytol..

21:52 <wdsmia> cya

21:54 <Tank_Master> c-ya xcamel

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