00:03 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Sierpinski Valentine (at www.xkcd.com)
00:09 <Soul_keeper> "Perl doesn't yet support references as hash keys."
00:09 <Soul_keeper> --beginning perl
00:14 <Soul_keeper> no wonder i was racking my brain for so long
00:14 <Soul_keeper> got me a headache now
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02:21 <efc> moo
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03:00 <CoderForLife> moo
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03:01 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
03:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 35.4°F / 1.9°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Clear. Lows around 30. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. West winds around 5 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain and snow showers after midnight. Lows in (1 more message)
03:01 <CoderForLife> &more
03:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the lower 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.;
03:03 <efc> my piano transcription of some Tchaik symphonies came in
03:03 <CoderForLife> morning
03:03 <CoderForLife> I have basically no idea what that means
03:06 <efc> somebodies takes the symphony and boils it down to a piano part
03:07 <CoderForLife> it is "my" bevause you own it, or because you created it?
03:08 <efc> because I bought it for $22
03:08 <CoderForLife> ah
03:08 <efc> I already have the score so theoretically could have done it myself, but, yuck
03:08 <efc> there are people that can sit at the piano and read the score, though
03:09 <efc> like, look at all the parts, and pick out the top 10 notes that they want to play
03:09 <CoderForLife> I prefer my part only
03:10 <efc> I thought those Enzyte jokers were all in jail, but they are back
03:10 <CoderForLife> yeah - it's a local company here
03:13 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
03:18 <efc> Ohio?
03:18 <Romulus> I guess Ohio is getting snowed on, efc
03:19 <CoderForLife> b
03:19 <CoderForLife> yeah Cincinnati
03:19 <CoderForLife> actually in a northern suburb
03:20 <efc> "Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals, along with other defendants, was ordered to forfeit $500 million"
03:20 <Romulus> Title: Enzyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
03:21 <efc> I know another guy in Ohio
03:21 <efc> Says its a depression up there
03:22 <CoderForLife> really? I know a guy in Georgia that sells bad peanuts
03:22 * CoderForLife gets out the big brush
03:23 <efc> On the advice of my attorney, I respectfully decline to answer that question
03:23 <CoderForLife> ah, the company is in Forest Park
03:25 <CoderForLife> oh my, Caterpillar CEO contradicts The Obama
03:33 <efc> Plane crash
03:33 <efc> I guess they can quit bragging on the no fatalities. Way to jinx.
03:37 <CoderForLife> same applies to this late night posting of the conference committee report
03:46 <efc> Whats that?
03:58 <CoderForLife> the version of the porkulus that the Senate and House are massaging
03:59 <CoderForLife> promised to be posted 48 hours prior to vote - posted at 11pm last night for bote today
03:59 <CoderForLife> er vote
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04:00 <CoderForLife> bbiab
04:17 <CoderForLife> bbiab again
04:23 <efc> the weekly s@h outtage is early
04:27 <CoderForLife> I got a new WU 26 minutes ago
04:28 <efc> oh, now they're coming
04:29 <CoderForLife> it was down for awhile
04:29 <efc> but a few min ago, 2/13/2009 4:20:31 AM|SETI@home|Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
04:29 <efc> i put custom exes on a long time ago, probably keeping me from getting astropulse wu's
04:30 <CoderForLife> ah - I have nothing custom
04:31 <CoderForLife> new version of astropulse at 4:02am
04:32 <efc> I guess eventually I'll shut it all down when GPU renders my credit/watt comparatively worthless
04:35 <CoderForLife> since when does frugality apply to boinc?
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04:46 <ELGono> moo dudes
04:46 <CoderForLife> moo
04:46 <efc> Out
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04:46 <ELGono> this is not my day
04:47 <ELGono> first my 22" Eizo CRT went up in smoke and my electronics exam could have been better, too ;/
04:47 <CoderForLife> related topics?
04:47 <ELGono> already got a replacement screen, but is has no 13W3 connector
04:48 <CoderForLife> Friday the 13th
04:48 <ELGono> well, not really related
04:48 <ELGono> in basics yes, exept the fact i will not put my hands on repairing high voltage devices
04:49 <ELGono> so i'm starting a relaxing soldering session
04:49 <Romulus> Title: Triskaidekaphobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
04:49 <ELGono> my TV-B-Gone set arrived ;)
04:49 <ELGono> high power version for up to 150m
04:50 <ELGono> it's a remote with just one button ... and 40.000 power-off codes for almost any TV :)
04:50 <ELGono> hope i'm gonna have some phun with that later on ;)
04:51 <CoderForLife> heh
04:53 <ELGono> i'm really curious, if it works through the windows of block across the street
05:04 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for W@#%
05:04 <CoderForLife> bbiab
05:04 <ELGono> laterz don, have a better day than i had so far ;)
05:11 <FreeLarry58> ELGono - i have found infered remotes work well on houses across the street
05:12 <ELGono> ahoi larry, long time!
05:12 <FreeLarry58> as long as direct line of sight
05:12 <FreeLarry58> well been around just not much to say
05:12 <ELGono> well this one works with 2 wide and 2 narrow LEDs
05:13 <FreeLarry58> one i had only had one transmit led in it
05:13 <ELGono> perfect for shutting down monitor walls in shopping centres ;)
05:13 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah
05:13 <FreeLarry58> or store displays facing street
05:14 <ELGono> last year all visitors of chaos communication congress order to stay away from mediamarkt (electronic shopping centre)
05:14 <ELGono> +had
05:14 <FreeLarry58> lol ohh bet drew alot of people to them
05:15 <ELGono> yea there was 2 french guys, wich biuld the LED inside a basecap
05:15 <ELGono> everywhere they looked at, TV's started to turn off at once
05:15 <FreeLarry58> blip blip blonk
05:16 <ELGono> i like the philosophy behind it ... TV sucks to much time and energy out of us
05:16 <FreeLarry58> been reading to many books recently - getting behind in the boob tube department
05:17 <FreeLarry58> ohh finally had a comp reach 1M credits
05:17 <FreeLarry58> of course its a quad
05:19 <ELGono> nice maschine
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05:19 <ELGono> didn't had any computer upgrades since more than a year
05:19 * FreeLarry58 remembers one thing about inferred remotes - signal will bounce off white walls and still reach reciever
05:20 <FreeLarry58> pretty much the same here - trying to catch up on wifes bills
05:20 <ELGono> digging more into audio circuits ....
05:20 <ELGono> you've seen my last project?
05:20 <FreeLarry58> humm not sure - was it a power supply?
05:20 <ELGono> a SuperSymmetric GainClone
05:21 <ELGono> all point2point wired
05:21 <ELGono> will be housed in a SGI Indigo Computer case
05:21 <ELGono> and it sounds damn good
05:22 <FreeLarry58> humm not for comp is it?
05:22 <ELGono> no more sibilance "S" tones
05:22 <FreeLarry58> audio amplifier ps? - must be with that large of heatsink
05:22 <ELGono> thats a 2x 140W audio amplifier
05:23 <ELGono> a balanced one, where each side is coupled across another, wich makes it super-symmetric
05:23 <FreeLarry58> that aught to break a few speakers
05:24 <ELGono> well it's not that much power... current delivery capability could be better .... but for my speakers and my small rooms it's way enough power
05:25 <FreeLarry58> way more than needed
05:25 <ELGono> yep
05:25 <FreeLarry58> most of my audio speakers will only handle about 40 W
05:25 <FreeLarry58> 8 ohm
05:25 <ELGono> my speakers are rated 140W long term load
05:26 * FreeLarry58 ears only rated at 10W
05:26 <ELGono> but into 4 ohm this amp just delivers some 70W per channel
05:27 <ELGono> but as they have a sensivity of 86dB .... def. enough
05:27 * FreeLarry58 thinks you will feel the canonade from 1812 overature well
05:27 <ELGono> hehe 1812 was phun
05:27 <clusty> hoy
05:27 <FreeLarry58> howdy clusty
05:27 <ELGono> and "peter and the wulf" was great on this system, too
05:28 * FreeLarry58 remembers having to reseal back window on mazda after playing 1812 full up with windows closed
05:28 <ELGono> started to listen much more classic music since i finished this one, cause it sounds that good, that you can enjoy and relax classics
05:28 <ELGono> LOL
05:28 <FreeLarry58> didn't know what i was getting into
05:29 * clusty feels for not understanding a word ELGono just said, even though he shoud......
05:29 <FreeLarry58> its a phase clusty
05:30 <clusty> i meant the whole impedance story and decibels :D
05:30 <FreeLarry58> i started to listem to classical in mid 20's and back to easy listening mostly now -- of course i like the talk shows also
05:30 <ELGono> hehe thats how i felt in my electronics exam few hours ago clusty
05:30 <ELGono> not my day :(
05:30 <clusty> ELGono, LOOL. i did electrical eng as bachelors, but ran away as fast as i could after i finished....
05:31 <FreeLarry58> ohhh - guess i better duck my head - long time since i had to remember formulas
05:32 <FreeLarry58> don't feel bad clusty - i had some EE baffled when i was on ship when i asked what i thought was a simple question for them
05:32 <CoderForLife> back
05:32 <FreeLarry58> never could get that circuit to work right
05:32 <CoderForLife> so I walk away, and the place comes alive
05:32 <FreeLarry58> wb CoderForLife
05:33 <CoderForLife> thx
05:33 <clusty> but, are you not supposed to match impedances, unless you wanted to have soemthing really bad happen?
05:33 <CoderForLife> w@#% is one giant impedance
05:34 <FreeLarry58> CoderForLife check this one out http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3274650
05:34 <ELGono> well i can do practical .. theoretics is not my bright side
05:34 <CoderForLife> wow FL
05:34 <FreeLarry58> humm if remember right for audio - you are supposed to match ps impedence to speaker impedance for best sound
05:34 <clusty> :D
05:35 <clusty> LOOL CFL :D
05:35 <FreeLarry58> finally had a machine last long enough
05:35 <clusty> i suck at practics and love the theoretics :D
05:35 <clusty> that's why i mad a lousy engineer
05:36 <CoderForLife> Have a Happy Paraskavedekatriaphobia Day!
05:36 <CoderForLife> I'm off to w@#%
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05:36 <FreeLarry58> yeah - six months working on a system that had multiple grounds in control circuit and system circuits - causing multiple bad feedback readings
05:36 <ELGono> indeed larry... impedance matching has big effect on sounding
05:36 <FreeLarry58> tc CoderForLife
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05:37 <clusty> you guys use windows?
05:37 <FreeLarry58> mostly xp here one vista (sucks) and several fedora
05:38 <clusty> any advice for a irc client for windoze?
05:38 <ELGono> xp , debian and irix here
05:38 <clusty> i am on xchat for some time now
05:38 <clusty> but it crashes under win
05:38 <FreeLarry58> i use mirc
05:38 <ELGono> on windows i can recommend miranda
05:38 <clusty> you gotta pay or crack that
05:38 <clusty> so its a philosophical question :D
05:38 <ELGono> free multi-protocoll client
05:38 <clusty> would rather use GNU stuff
05:39 <FreeLarry58> mirc pay once for full function - i did after a years time
05:39 <ELGono> wich also can handle jabber and otr encryption
05:39 <clusty> ELGono, using pidgin now. lets give it a shot :D
05:39 <clusty> supports irc also
05:39 <FreeLarry58> well take care all - beddy bye time
05:40 <ELGono> laterz FL
05:40 <FreeLarry58> &nn
05:40 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
05:40 <clusty> btw
05:40 <clusty> does freenode not support ssl?
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05:42 <clusty> grrrr, pidgin is disgusting...
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05:42 <ELGono> Does freenode provide SSL-based client access? Not at present. We did have a server set up as a testbed for a while, but we probably won't provide SSL on a consistent basis until we can provide end-to-end encryption.
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07:01 <xcamel> 'lo
07:31 <xcamel> nasty plane crash in buffalo last night
07:31 <xcamel> 49 doa
07:42 <xcamel> dash-80 -- icing -- high winds
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08:18 <MTughan> clusty: Which build of XChat did you use? Official, or SilvereX?
08:18 <clusty> MTughan, silverx
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08:18 <MTughan> All right, that's taken care of then...
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08:19 <clusty> somehow when i try to minimize to task bar it crashes
08:19 <clusty> ALWAYS
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08:24 <xcamel> 'lo Doug@w&^!
08:36 <wdsmia_w> *lo Jay
08:40 <xcamel> bad day in buffalo
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10:08 <MTughan> xcamel: 50 dead now. One in the house. Last I heard anyway. Sad.
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10:44 <hawmps> 49 - 2 on the ground escaped.
10:44 <MTughan> The wife and daughter escaped, the father died from his injuries.
11:11 <hawmps> now news is saying 50 again... who knows.
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12:30 <zombie67> MT?
12:30 <Romulus> MT is right, zombie67
12:30 <MTughan> Here.
12:31 <MTughan> That requires a coding change, to integrate it with BOINC. Or a wrapper.
12:31 <zombie67> so what kind of help are they looking for?
12:33 <MTughan> Well, if the source is available, they could be asking for a code change to make the apps valid BOINC apps.
12:33 <MTughan> If not, a wrapper app is the best option.
12:35 <zombie67> i just asked for more specifics...what kind of help exactly?
12:36 <MTughan> I don't see an asking for help. The closest I could guess would be for someone to put the behaviour into the app.
12:36 <MTughan> I don't know why they can't just recompile their Linux and Windows sources for Mac, but something must be restricting them.
12:38 <zombie67> "Any assistance in bringing these to BOINC would be greatly appreciated."
12:39 <MTughan> Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it right now. The Mac's just being mailed out this morning, and I won't have a new one for at least a week.
12:40 <MTughan> w00t, BOINCStats's daily seems to be back to the old time...
12:45 <zombie67> wow, look at that!
12:45 <MTughan> What?
12:45 <zombie67> stats already updated
12:45 <MTughan> Still purging.
12:45 <MTughan> Stats are updated, images aren't quite yet.
12:46 <zombie67> I am okay with that. I look at the numbers anyway
12:46 <MTughan> I got my highest day on record yesterday... 21K!
12:46 <zombie67> congrats!
12:46 <zombie67> what project(s)?
12:46 <MTughan> Considering I set my previous highest record a couple days ago at 15K, that's huge. :D
12:46 <MTughan> ABC and MW.
12:47 <MTughan> Just under 14K from MW yesterday, 7333 from ABC.
12:48 <zombie67> yep, two good paying projects. You have 64 bit machines?
12:48 <MTughan> And OSes.
13:03 <MTughan> Holy crap... You know you have too large of a cache when you have a C2Q @ 2.4GHz with Vista x64, and your average turnaround time on ABC is 14 day.
13:03 <MTughan> days*
13:04 <Soul_keeper> anything that can give me jiffies for a time in perl ?
13:04 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> without just dividing
13:04 <MTughan> Why do you want jiffies?
13:05 <Soul_keeper> accuracy
13:05 <MTughan> CPAN might have something. I don't know of anything off the top of my head.
13:05 <Soul_keeper> 1 second is not small enough
13:06 <Soul_keeper> it don't appear they do ...
13:08 <MTughan> The only result for jiffies in CPAN seems to be for Linux processes. Jiffy returns something called Jifty, which seems to be an application framework.
13:08 <MTughan> Are milliseconds accurate enough?
13:10 <MTughan> Hmm... Found a library that can handle nanoseconds. 1 billion ns = 1 s.
13:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah
13:10 <MTughan> How much accuracy do you need anyway?
13:10 <Soul_keeper> 1/10th or 1/100th (jiffy) of a second
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13:11 <MTughan> A millisecond is 1/1000th of a second, so a millisecond library will suit you.
13:12 <Romulus> Title: Time::HiRes - High resolution alarm, sleep, gettimeofday, interval timers - search.cpan.org (at search.cpan.org)
13:13 <MTughan> &google Perl millisecond
13:13 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.22 seconds: Perl - How to get perl date time down to milliseconds ?: <http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1093442&page=1>; RE: Time till millisecond :: ASPN Mail Archive :: perl -xml: <http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/perl-xml/623740>; Milliseconds - nntp. perl .org: <http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.datetime/2006/11/msg6541.html>; Time in (3 more messages)
13:13 <MTughan> That can probably get you started too.
13:13 <Soul_keeper> ok great
13:13 <Soul_keeper> didn't know datetime could do that
13:13 <MTughan> I just checked out the first and third posts, the third has a code sample.
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13:47 <Soul_keeper> .84604 that last digit, is that a "billionth" ?
13:47 <Soul_keeper> 100,000th ?
13:47 <MTughan> 100,000th.
13:47 <Soul_keeper> interesting
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13:48 <MTughan> Just as 10^6 is a million, 10^-6 is a millionth.
13:49 <Soul_keeper> so sleep(1); takes 300,000ths of a second longer than 1 second counting the print and stuff
13:49 <MTughan> lol
13:49 <MTughan> Wait... That number means nothing. Do you mean 3 100,000ths?
13:49 <Soul_keeper> i knew how to do this in C, will come in handy in perl now :)
13:49 <Soul_keeper> yeah
13:50 <Soul_keeper> .00003
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13:52 <ELGono> rehi
13:53 <ELGono> tv-b-gone is working ;) had some pretty phun today playing with it
13:53 <ELGono> record was turning off a wall of LCD TVs in electronic supermarket
13:53 <ELGono> about 20 at once ;)
13:54 <MTughan> 'lo PovAdct_es
13:54 <MTughan> I got 21K on BOINC yesterday. :D
13:55 <XioNYC> &wx LGA
13:55 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 42°F / 6°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; This Afternoon - Sunny and windy. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 20s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Saturday - Mostly (1 more message)
13:55 <XioNYC> &more
13:55 <Romulus> XioNYC: sunny. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.;
13:55 <PovAdct_es> MTughan: that doesnt beat seeing cirque du soleil in sevilla
13:56 <MTughan> What show?
13:56 <PovAdct_es> varekai
13:57 <MTughan> Hmm, haven't seen that one... Sounds cool.
13:57 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Sierpinski Valentine (at www.xkcd.com)
13:58 <PovAdct_es> lol @ tooltip
13:58 <MTughan> Yeah.
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14:27 <MTughan> With the Windows/Linux version, or with something else?
14:28 <MTughan> Sorry, not trying to communicate with you, I'm just figuring out what else I should run.
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14:58 <Soul_keeper> perfect
14:58 <Soul_keeper> i can see perl struggling with all these floating point ops, but no 2-3% margin of error anymore :)
14:58 <MTughan> lol
14:59 <Soul_keeper> testing: 0
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 User: 0.05%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 Nice: 99.87%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 System: 0.03%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 Idle: 0.00%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 IOWait: 0.00%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 Irq: 0.00%
14:59 <Soul_keeper> Core0 SoftIrq: 0.00%
15:00 <Soul_keeper> looks like a .05% margin of error now :)
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15:50 <PovAdct_es> eh, can never have enough USB ports
15:51 <MTughan> I have 12. :)
15:51 <MTughan> AMD's coming out with a southbridge that has 14.
15:51 <PovAdct_es> laptop
15:51 <MTughan> Three on my laptop... Agreed.
15:52 <PovAdct_es> PowerBook G4
15:52 <PovAdct_es> there are two
15:52 <MTughan> Two?
15:52 <PovAdct_es> both currently charging iPods
15:52 <MTughan> And I don't suppose it has like a PC card slot for others, does it?
15:52 <PovAdct_es> I gotta unplug one to transfer pics from camera
15:53 <PovAdct_es> I've never seen a Mac with PCMCIA...
15:53 <MTughan> True. The MacBook Pros have ExpressCard, but I haven't seen PCMCIA.
15:53 <MTughan> USB hub?
15:54 <PovAdct_es> we also have two cameras :P but no problem plugging first one then the other
15:54 <PovAdct_es> btw iPhoto = awesome
15:54 <MTughan> iPhoto '06, '08, or '09?
15:54 <PovAdct_es> 5.0.4, you tell me
15:54 <MTughan> No idea, but any version works...
15:55 <MTughan> How many photos do you have anyway?
15:55 <PovAdct_es> my dad has a newer Mac already ordered, should have arrived by the time we come back from vacation
15:55 <PovAdct_es> should come with the latest iLife I guess
15:55 <MTughan> Probably. Mine is getting sent back today too, should have a new one within two weeks.
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15:56 <PovAdct_es> from Spain we have 2215 (including a few videos and a few pictures that should be probably deleted; but without counting pictures taken today)
15:56 <MTughan> lol, nice... I can see how iPhoto would be a major help. ;P
15:56 <MTughan> :P *
15:57 <PovAdct_es> I got a plugin that lets you upload pictures into Facebook directly from iPhoto
15:57 <MTughan> Which is also integrated straight into iPhoto '09, but that's nice.
15:57 <PovAdct_es> much easier than browsing iPhoto library directory from Facebook upload thingy...
15:58 <PovAdct_es> btw I read a review saying iPhoto '09 face recognition isn't quite good
15:59 <MTughan> Wouldn't surprise me. I guess if people are looking right at the camera and the lighting's good, it works.
15:59 <PovAdct_es> iPhoto '09 Places feature + a camera with built-in GPS = total win
15:59 <PovAdct_es> (but we dont have either)
15:59 <MTughan> It sounds interesting, but I don't do that many photos...
15:59 <MTughan> Yes, the GPS tagging would be awesome... You can tag photos yourself too.
16:02 <PovAdct_es> we do have a Garmin GPS for the car, which is becoming invaluable over here
16:02 <MTughan> Don't I know it... Quite useful when we ventured east last summer too.
16:03 <MTughan> Although it took us over a country road one time... Really odd. We got ourselves back out to the highway, and it was fine...
16:03 <PovAdct_es> we had one problem once...
16:03 <MTughan> What model GPS?
16:04 <PovAdct_es> it was taking us through some little lost roads and we knew there was a highway nearby
16:04 <PovAdct_es> turns out we had left it in pedestrian mode
16:04 <MTughan> lol, nice.
16:04 <PovAdct_es> (you can't walk on highways)
16:04 <MTughan> I guess it didn't complain about your speed? :P
16:04 <PovAdct_es> nope
16:04 <PovAdct_es> needs some more intelligence there
16:05 <PovAdct_es> "you seem to be walking at 80km/h, do you want to switch to car mode?"
16:05 <MTughan> Yeah, it's not the smartest thing in the world... Works well enough mostly.
16:05 <PovAdct_es> it's not hard to implement...
16:05 <MTughan> Heh, even 30km/h would probably be enough...
16:06 <MTughan> What model GPS do you have anyway?
16:06 <PovAdct_es> nuvi something
16:07 <PovAdct_es> the model number matters (there's a wide range of nuvis) but I don't remember it
16:07 <MTughan> As are all their consumer models...
16:07 <MTughan> Yeah.
16:07 <MTughan> IIRC, I had/have a nuvi 260.
16:07 <PovAdct_es> it can speak the street names; I think that was its main difference with the previous model
16:08 <MTughan> So it's basically the same as mine then. This was the lowest model that could speak the street names.
16:08 <MTughan> I think my mom would find it easier to have that, but it's usually my dad or I who use it.
16:08 <PovAdct_es> (internally that's quite a difference though; needs speech synth instead of just recordings of someone saying "turn left" kind of stuff)
16:08 <MTughan> Definitely useful.
16:09 <MTughan> Yeah, but it helps when you have many small streets one after another. You can look at the name rather than counting off metres.
16:10 <MTughan> Oh yeah... Don't know if you're interested, but zombie67 was "looking" for someone to help get the PG apps on Mac. Apparently, they're having a hard time linking the library to the application.
16:11 <PovAdct_es> what library?
16:11 <MTughan> Doesn't say. http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=1185&nowrap=true#13584
16:12 <MTughan> I'd try it out over the next week as I'm off school, but I don't have access to a Mac.
16:13 <MTughan> Another interesting tidbit... Microsoft has offered a $250K USD bounty for information leading to the arrest/conviction of the author(s) of Conficker.
16:13 <PovAdct_es> I don't have access to a Mac with any development tools; and let's say I'm rarely sitting down lately, except inside a car :)
16:13 <MTughan> Yeah, that kind of complicates things... :)
16:13 <PovAdct_es> sleeping at a different place every night
16:13 <MTughan> All right, I can let zombie know next time I see him.
16:14 <MTughan> So, how is Spain anyway?
16:15 <PovAdct_es> hard to tell in few words...
16:16 <PovAdct_es> or to say something that applies to all places we visited :P
16:16 <MTughan> Such is the nature of nations... :P
16:17 <xcamel> re-hi
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16:17 <MTughan> Hehe...
16:17 <MTughan> 'lo zombie67
16:17 <zombie67> hi
16:17 <PovAdct_es> speak of...
16:17 <zombie67> sup?
16:17 <MTughan> Talked about PG's problems with Pov, he can't do anything.
16:18 <zombie67> I'm still not clear on what the problem is
16:20 <MTughan> Problem: No Mac apps. ;)
16:23 <PovAdct_es> MTughan: any idea if iPhoto 5 is the next-to-last, or if I'm *two* versions behind?
16:23 <PovAdct_es> it has quite a few annoyances
16:23 <MTughan> iPhoto '06 is two versions behind. It's possible you're three versions behind.
16:23 <PovAdct_es> o.o
16:24 <PovAdct_es> isn't the year a completely different way of versioning iLife?
16:24 <xcamel> Wife and daughter just ready to take off to Amsterdam, then to Milan
16:24 <PovAdct_es> ah shit, Copyright Apple 2002-2005
16:24 <wdsmia> asks PovAdct_es to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
16:24 <PovAdct_es> I really am outdated here
16:24 <zombie67> they have mac apps, but for some reason can't use them with boinc
16:24 <xcamel> Then Monaco, then Barcelona
16:24 <MTughan> PovAdct_es: I'm saying iPhoto 5 is possibly 2005.
16:24 <PovAdct_es> probably explains why some things are so stupidly annoying :P
16:24 <PovAdct_es> like tagging
16:25 <PovAdct_es> to add a tag to a picture, you drag the picture to the tag (huh) or go to Get Info, tag it, and close the info window
16:26 <PovAdct_es> in both cases you'd select the tag from a list
16:26 <PovAdct_es> to add a new tag name to the list you have to go through iPhoto preferences
16:26 <PovAdct_es> I've never seen such a painful tagging process anywhere
16:27 <PovAdct_es> I'd expect you click a photo and click a tag, or type a new one
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16:30 <PovAdct_es> I can't reorder folders inside folders
16:30 <PovAdct_es> I have A B C D E F
16:31 <PovAdct_es> I drag D to be before B, it shows visual feedback that it will indeed be put there
16:31 <PovAdct_es> I relese mouse... and D jumps to the end of the list (after F)
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16:33 <CoderForLife> re-hi
16:33 <CoderForLife> hello PovAdct_es =)
16:34 <efc> moo
16:34 <CoderForLife> moo efc
16:34 <xcamel> 'lo Don, Ed
16:34 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
16:34 <MTughan> 'lo Don
16:35 <CoderForLife> hello Michael
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16:35 <xcamel> Jack Cover, inventor of Taser stun gun, dies at 88
16:36 <xcamel> "shocking"
16:36 <MTughan> lol
16:37 <CoderForLife> here's my w@#% news of the day http://www.ohionational.com/public/about/press/2_13_09.html
16:37 <xcamel> brag much?
16:37 <xcamel> hehehehe..
16:38 <xcamel> "Transsexual Mafia boss who wears lipstick and calls himself Kitty arrested by Italian police"
16:39 <CoderForLife> din-din bbiab
16:39 <xcamel> anyway.. great showing
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16:47 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
16:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27.4°F / -2.6°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Snow. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. Snow likely early in the evening...then a chance (2 more messages)
16:47 <wdsmia> &more
16:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: of snow late in the evening. Colder. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Total snow accumulation 3 to 6 inches. Low 15 to 20. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 30s. North wind 5 to 15 mph.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 9:00 PM CST on February 13, 2009; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 1:30 PM CST (1 more message)
16:47 <wdsmia> &more
16:47 <Romulus> wdsmia: on February 15, 2009;
16:51 <wdsmia> going to be a ugly rush hour
16:51 <wdsmia> glad I took the afternoon off
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16:53 <Romulus> Title: Des Moines area tripGuide (at www.511ia.org)
16:53 <MTughan> wdsmia: Ouch, slow indeed...
16:53 <XioNYC> Wow. And I thought *I* had a smoking problem...
16:53 <MTughan> lol
16:55 <xcamel> ditto.
16:56 * xcamel wonders if I should waster any more time with sata on this box...
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16:58 <jackygrahamez> hi
16:58 <xcamel> anyone ever seen a bios message like "not enough rom space..." flash by?
16:58 <xcamel> 'lo Jack
16:59 <jackygrahamez> hi @xcamel
16:59 <jackygrahamez> I'm about to try DA's new upgrade
16:59 <xcamel> 6. what?
16:59 <jackygrahamez> server upgrade
16:59 <xcamel> ah...
17:00 <CoderForLife> back
17:00 <xcamel> I'm waiting for 6.6.6 so I can run apocalypse@home
17:00 <CoderForLife> the Senate hasn't finished that app yet
17:01 <CoderForLife> thx for the "showing" msg xcamel
17:01 <xcamel> they're close..
17:01 <jackygrahamez> stimulus@home?
17:02 <xcamel> that's called marriage
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17:02 <xcamel> or cheating..
17:03 <CoderForLife> you can see the market impact in our numbers - assets under management dropped $3.1B - that's money people have in their investment accounts
17:03 <CoderForLife> er had
17:04 <CoderForLife> 12.5% *poof*
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17:04 <Romulus> Title: Reason Magazine - Founding Father, Entrepreneur (at reason.com)
17:07 <xcamel> bbiab...
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17:13 <CoderForLife> blue spooky MTughan
17:13 <MTughan> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/Side.jpg for what it looks like in normal light.
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17:14 <Romulus> Title: Microsoft to open own retail stores - Retail - msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)
17:15 <jackygrahamez> Happy president's day weekend!
17:15 <MTughan> CoderForLife: Ain't me.
17:16 <CoderForLife> MS is too Apple-envious
17:16 <MTughan> I've never really liked Apple stores either.
17:17 <jackygrahamez> does Bill Gates greet you at the door and send you in the wrong direction?
17:17 <CoderForLife> heh
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Do you get a discount if you crash your car through the entrance?
17:18 <CoderForLife> crashes are a feature
17:28 * wdsmia watches the DOT webcams and sings slip sliding away
17:29 <CoderForLife> plink 184.108.40.206
17:30 <jackygrahamez> later
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17:41 <MTughan> All right, I'm off to Toronto... bbl
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17:44 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news February 13, 2009
17:45 <CoderForLife> bbiab
17:50 <yoyo_RKN> &wx sxf
17:50 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 25Â°F / -4Â°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:20 PM CET; Clear. High:33 ° F.; Clear. Low:22 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 ° F.;
17:50 <yoyo_RKN> becomes colder
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17:52 <efc> moo
17:53 <xcamel> wowza.. that worked..
17:54 <efc> ran my 6k, 31:42, still recovering from the deer-season break
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18:01 <CoderForLife> back
18:01 <wdsmia> wb
18:01 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn
18:01 <CoderForLife> thx
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18:02 <Rookie_69> I was cursing the bulb in the oven for not going out and buying itself a replacement for the last month or three since it burnt out, when I looked in the drawer next to the stove and found a new one just sitting there. Go figure.
18:03 <Rookie_69> Is it Friday yet?
18:03 <wdsmia> the 13th
18:03 <Rookie_69> Hi Don, Doug.
18:04 <Rookie_69> Good. I'll win the lottery tonight for sure...
18:04 <CoderForLife> you don't need to buy a replacement oven to get the light to go out
18:05 <CoderForLife> did you buy a lottery ticket Glenn?
18:05 <Rookie_69> ... the bulb was inconsiderate enough to not go to the store and buy a replacement for itself...
18:06 <Rookie_69> What? I have to buy a ticket???
18:06 <Rookie_69> That's why I never win.
18:06 <CoderForLife> it's generally a necessary first step
18:06 <CoderForLife> but not a requirement
18:07 <efc> I guess the numbers, but don't buy the tickets, saves money
18:08 <CoderForLife> my bank is becoming unwound
18:09 <xcamel> how about that... a 428gb volume group.. woopee!
18:09 <CoderForLife> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090213/fifth_third_mover.html?.v=2
18:11 <CoderForLife> I'll re-post this for Doug and Glenn, then not mention it again http://www.ohionational.com/public/about/press/2_13_09.html
18:30 * Rookie_69 looks at his insurance bill and thanks CoderForLife for not ever mentioning it again.
18:32 <CoderForLife> not my fault
18:33 <CoderForLife> and if it's not my company, it's *really* not my fault
18:34 * CoderForLife fills out a deposit slip with the proceeds from Rookie_69
18:35 * Rookie_69 can't really tell the difference between slugs and soft shelled snails.
18:35 * Rookie_69 ducks in advance.
18:37 <Rookie_69> Undertakers and traffic cops...
18:37 <Rookie_69> ... none of us really want to give them our business...
18:38 <xcamel> just keep your terrorist geese.
18:38 <Rookie_69> ... it's just inevitable.
18:38 <CoderForLife> lol
18:39 <Rookie_69> I didn't send them to NY... I said Afghanistan.
18:39 <CoderForLife> I mean really, can't Canada find some other way to get some press coverage?
18:40 <Rookie_69> We can crash-land some of our Canadair jets into houses in Buffalo...
18:40 <Rookie_69> OK... Bad joke.
18:40 <CoderForLife> and where'd the snow/ice come from?
18:41 <Rookie_69> Minnessota
18:41 <Rookie_69> ?
18:41 <CoderForLife> I'm thinking out of the Great White Frozen North
18:41 <Rookie_69> Most of mine comes from Jay.
18:43 <CoderForLife> Beck is good
18:44 <CoderForLife> he making too much sense lately
18:44 <CoderForLife> in all Fairness, we'll have to take him off the air
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18:46 <xcamel> short,,,,,,,, buttt good.
18:47 <CoderForLife> why it is when the meter reader can't read the meter due to weather, they estimate your usage at 4 times the national debt?
18:48 <Rookie_69> ... when the meter can easily be tied to the main computer through the grid, why is there even a meter reader?
18:49 <Rookie_69> Job security?
18:49 <CoderForLife> union
18:49 <xcamel> yupper
18:50 <Rookie_69> International Brotherhood of Electrical Wankers.
18:51 <Rookie_69> ... or whatever...
18:51 <CoderForLife> you shoudn't say that so close to your electric meter
18:51 <Rookie_69> The slum-lady pays the bill.
18:52 <CoderForLife> they can't read, but they can hear
18:54 <CoderForLife> boinc is an expensive hobby from a power point of view
18:54 <Rookie_69> Keeps my apartment warm.
18:55 <CoderForLife> all year round
18:55 <Rookie_69> I adjust the number of running boxes constantly.
18:56 <Rookie_69> Two shut off this week.
18:57 <Rookie_69> Supposed to cool off so one might come back on.
18:58 <Rookie_69> Almost quiet in here with only four running.
18:59 <CoderForLife> what did you say?!
18:59 <Rookie_69> I SAID... IT'S...
19:02 <Rookie_69> L:ast night it was warmer and a bit loud... I think at least one of the boxes need to be cleaned again.
19:02 <CoderForLife> you try to maintain a pain/clean balance?
19:04 <Rookie_69> Pain? When it goes quiet at night, I wake right up.
19:04 <Rookie_69> Something's wrong!
19:04 <Rookie_69> Must be a power failure!
19:06 <Rookie_69> Do I plug the alarm clock into the UPS or leave it to crunch as long as possible?
19:10 <Rookie_69> I tried that once and the alarm clock killed the UPS before morning, so what's the sense?
19:10 <Rookie_69> Maybe I need new batteries.
19:13 <CoderForLife> maybe so
19:13 <Soul_keeper> hmmm this DB better store hashs ...
19:20 * Rookie_69 wonders who would store hash in a DB...
19:21 <xcamel> usually store hash in tinfoil
19:27 <Soul_keeper> yup don't work
19:28 <Soul_keeper> gotta create fancy keys with 2 scalars
19:35 <xcamel> saw that..
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19:51 <xcamel> anyone heard from spit lately?
19:51 * KathrynM waves good morning
19:51 <xcamel> I just read a rather creepy story...
19:52 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM
19:52 <xcamel> 'lo K
19:52 <KathrynM> Happy Saturday
19:52 <CoderForLife> indeed
19:52 <KathrynM> sunny after a day of rain
19:52 * Rookie_69 waves belatedly back at KathrynM.
19:53 <CoderForLife> yeah I was telling the guys at lunch about that UK guy
19:53 * KathrynM stretches and listens to her joints creak
19:54 <xcamel> That IIRC, is Spit's husband's name...
19:55 <Rookie_69> Him Upstairs.
19:55 <xcamel> yeah.
19:55 <CoderForLife> no - it's Peter, I think
19:55 <xcamel> maybe you're right
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19:55 <CoderForLife> I always thought he should be Peter Wolfton, not Peter Foxton
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19:56 <xcamel> might be related though
19:56 <CoderForLife> well, could be
19:57 * XioNYC has squandered another perfectly fine day on IRC.
19:57 <xcamel> lol
19:57 * Rookie_69 wonders if the Fox in Foxton was once Fawkes...
19:57 <CoderForLife> think of it as a hedge fund investment
20:02 <CoderForLife> well - time to talk to the wife for a bit
20:02 <CoderForLife> gn
20:02 <xcamel> rise of Helen tonight...
20:03 * CoderForLife sees he was never really here
20:03 <zombie67> MT?
20:03 <Romulus> MT is right, zombie67
20:03 <CoderForLife> Ellen, yes
20:03 <efc> I knew we hadn't seen the last of her
20:04 <CoderForLife> I've started watching the download on Saturday afternoon - can't hack 11pm on Friday night
20:04 <xcamel> last week was good... we were cheering at the end...
20:05 <CoderForLife> very good
20:05 <CoderForLife> good night all
20:05 <efc> I enjoyed watching Starbuck shoot some people. Need more of that.
20:05 <xcamel> gn
20:05 * CoderForLife stumbles away
20:05 <efc> night cfl
20:15 <xcamel> spork >> 220.127.116.11
20:15 * efc officially hates ticketmaster now
20:15 <xcamel> ticketmaster sucks
20:16 <efc> they make you wait for no purpose other than to make you nervous or something
20:16 <efc> there's an egypt exhibit here we want to see, got buy 1 get 1 deal, but have to go through these 'tards
20:21 <Rookie_69> Aren't Ticketmasters the ones who stopped selling tickets to the public and now sell them all to their subsidiary who resells the tickets at a horribly inflated price?
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20:22 <xcamel> basically, yes.
20:22 <Rookie_69> ... as if the original price wasn't horrible enough.
20:22 <efc> they want a 3.75 'convenience' charge, and $2.50 for me to print the ticket (?!)
20:22 <xcamel> ticketmafia, inc.
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20:24 <efc> then $3.50 to process the order
20:28 <Rookie_69> I was practically aghast to pay $11 to see Don Maclean back in the eighties somewhere.
20:29 <Rookie_69> ... sometime...
20:30 <xcamel> my average ticket was around $25
20:32 <xcamel> we have a pretty good venue nearby
20:32 <Rookie_69> Kiss is supposed to play here this summer for $85 or so for a piece of sod on the common.
20:32 <xcamel> ...waiting for the backup to my new logvol to finish..
20:33 <xcamel> trying to jamb that tiny card in next to the giant video card was a real trick
20:35 <Rookie_69> It'll rain and turn to mud again... And probably snow too.
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20:37 <Rookie_69> June seventh... It might snow.
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20:39 <xcamel> 'lo Q
20:52 <xcamel> well... off with me. backup finished... seems to be working nicely.
20:53 <Rookie_69> NN.
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20:59 <Rookie_69> &NN.
20:59 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Are you daft?
20:59 * Rookie_69 thinks so.
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22:03 <efc> looks like enormous steamer is about to drop
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22:24 <Ac-town> Hey
22:25 <efc> moo
22:26 <Ac-town> i seem to be having an issue with boinc running -allow_remote_gui_rpc in windows (service), any ideas?
22:26 <efc> I think there's something else you have to do
22:27 <efc> But I do it so seldom (already set up) that I forget..
22:27 <Ac-town> i have edited the password file
22:27 <Ac-town> it works fine when i manual do it
22:27 <efc> I have a gui_rpc_auth.cfg with password
22:27 <efc> yeah probably that one..
22:28 <Ac-town> i dont, but it still should work
22:28 <Ac-town> my linux clients have no issues
22:28 <efc> how about remote_hosts.cfg ?
22:28 <Ac-town> thats not needed also
22:28 <Ac-town> its jsut blank
22:28 <Ac-town> just*
22:29 <efc> Ok. It seems like when I set it up I just added that junk until it worked.
22:31 <Ac-town> since i cant edit the service's executable location (it has the -detach) i added it in the extra start paramaters
22:31 <Ac-town> then i start it, then no dice
22:32 <efc> I don't run as service.. the hardcore crunchers seem to be out atm
22:32 <Ac-town> ah, ok
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23:30 <Soul_keeper> WooHoo more rain !
23:30 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
23:30 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 49.5°F / 9.7°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain. Patchy dense fog. Near steady temperature in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Areas of dense fog in the evening. Rain in the evening...then (2 more messages)
23:30 <Ac-town> nice
23:30 <Soul_keeper> got me some chains on my ridin' lawn mower :)
23:31 <Soul_keeper> no more burn outs trying to plow thru thick wet grass
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23:39 <Ac-town> efc, i figured out how to do it, I had to edit the registery to add the -allow_remote_gui_rpc
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23:59 <efc> Glad you got it