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01:36 <Soul_keeper> brandnew80dollarkeyboardandthespacedon'twork
01:36 <Soul_keeper> great
01:38 <Soul_keeper> thischangesmyopinionofrazer
01:39 <jasong> Man, that's like the worst possible key to go bad
01:44 <Soul_keeper> back on my old keyboard]
01:44 <Soul_keeper> i don't think i can forgive razer for this
01:44 <Soul_keeper> their mouse also broke on me
01:44 <Soul_keeper> the scrolling wheel fell off
01:44 <Soul_keeper> i was able to super glue it back on but ...
01:45 <Soul_keeper> one of the main reasons i bought the keyboard was because it had an american flag on it
01:45 <Soul_keeper> i assumed that meant it was made in america
01:45 <Soul_keeper> but when i got it home the small print said "made for the USA"
01:45 <Soul_keeper> chinese junk
01:49 <Soul_keeper> you can see the wear on the keys already from using it, i guess i type too much ...
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03:38 <ELGono> lol SK
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04:25 <CoderForLife> &more
04:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.;
04:25 <CoderForLife> the struggle between winter and spring begins
04:34 <efc> moo cfl
04:34 <CoderForLife> moo efc
04:35 <efc> How does the view of Rome burning look from there?
04:36 <CoderForLife> I've got my package of hot dogs at the ready
04:36 <Soul_keeper> i hate you all
04:36 <efc> Marshmellows here
04:37 <CoderForLife> so I help you with regexs, and this is how I'm rewarded?
04:38 <Soul_keeper> pretty much
04:38 <CoderForLife> oic
04:38 <Soul_keeper> i'm a hatefull person :)
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04:39 <ELGono> stars'n'stripes keyboard, eh ? ... still laughing on that ;)
04:39 <Soul_keeper> i guess i should be coding, since i'm obviousely waking up at like 7pm these days ...
04:40 <Soul_keeper> now that i wrote that 2000 lines of perl code, i gotta port it to c/c++
04:42 <ELGono> we just went from principal axis transformation to quaternion this night
04:42 <ELGono> wich way bad matrix calculation
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04:55 <CoderForLife> what was all that?
04:55 <Romulus> Somebody said all that is turning into show here, CoderForLife
04:56 <CoderForLife> is this microphone on?
04:57 <CoderForLife> &ping
04:57 <Romulus> pong
04:57 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
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04:57 <CoderForLife> &more
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04:57 <CoderForLife> &more
04:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent.;
04:58 <Romulus> Title: Any Tips to Reduce PERL CPU Usage? (at www.webmasterworld.com)
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04:59 <ELGono> wow, that was some split
04:59 <CoderForLife> very hurtful
04:59 <ELGono> nytimes.com and jay's solren mrtg was not reable
04:59 <ELGono> from europe
04:59 <ELGono> berkeley.edu was
04:59 <ELGono> whitehouse.gov, too ;)
05:00 <CoderForLife> maybe something happened to an Internet router
05:00 <CoderForLife> I lost AOL IM at the same time
05:00 <ELGono> but looks like there router issue at eastcoast
05:00 <ELGono> yea many icq members were offline for me, too
05:01 <ELGono> also eastcoast usa members mostly
05:01 <CoderForLife> there was a disturbance in the Force
05:02 <Soul_keeper> i'm thinking it won't be that hard to port to C
05:02 <Soul_keeper> already got a few dozens lines put down during that split ...
05:02 <Soul_keeper> i'll keep the cgi part in perl of course, just gotta make the daemons in C
05:03 <Soul_keeper> i'll combine the 3 perl daemons into a single threaded C daemon
05:03 <Soul_keeper> should run much better
05:03 <CoderForLife> I spent too much time yesterday trying to add regex support to C - I have no library call
05:04 <Soul_keeper> well i'll definately need regex capability
05:04 <CoderForLife> I realized then that my need was less intense, and used strstr() to match
05:06 <ELGono> "I think i can just unplug this one to use for my Vaccuum"
05:06 <ELGono> might be an explenation too
05:07 <ELGono> explanation
05:07 <CoderForLife> It's all about you, ELGono
05:08 <ELGono> well just created a 4th dimension in my R³ ... but that should be no harm for reallife R³
05:09 <ELGono> need that for quaternions
05:10 <ELGono> my R³ is now R^4 .. plus each axis has a complex axis now too
05:10 <CoderForLife> you lead a charmed but strange existence =)
05:11 <ELGono> hehe in this case my GF is leading me ;)
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05:11 <ELGono> it's for her diploma thesis ... and she need to get through this
05:12 <ELGono> wierd bunch of mathlab code
05:12 <CoderForLife> we have Mathematica here
05:12 <ELGono> wich simulates a car in simulator with 6 stereo-picture-projectors
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05:13 <ELGono> real fancy stuff ... the campus is already implemented as 3D environment ;)
05:14 <ELGono> but rotating parts like wheels is real pain ...
05:14 <XioNYC> &ping
05:14 <Romulus> pong
05:15 <CoderForLife> we had a rough netsplit XioNYC
05:15 <ELGono> ouch, that table tennis ball hurts ;)
05:15 <CoderForLife> we're thinking actually a router failure
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05:18 <clusty> hey
05:18 <CoderForLife> hey
05:18 <clusty> i am hacing some boinc client iossues...
05:18 <clusty> under windows from time to time the client just won't connect to the server no more
05:18 <clusty> complaining no internet
05:18 <clusty> even though internet is there...
05:19 <clusty> and only solution is a PC restart
05:19 <clusty> is it just me?
05:19 <CoderForLife> we just had a bad netsplit, which may be Internet related
05:19 <ELGono> tracerouting from ashburn, virginia to my maschine has a big increase in latency
05:19 <CoderForLife> maybe an East Coasrt US router?
05:19 <ELGono> just at the across-the-ocean routers
05:19 <CoderForLife> I lost AOL IM at the same time
05:19 <ELGono> virginia to east coast ~2ms between each router
05:20 <CoderForLife> Global Notice just came through
05:20 <ELGono> us to uk (london) 170ms
05:20 <ELGono> and from london to me 2ms
05:20 <CoderForLife> did you see the Notice?
05:20 <ELGono> yep
05:21 <ELGono> maybe the trans-atlantic wires glowing by irc-DDOS
05:21 <ELGono> hehe
05:22 <ELGono> i'm directly hoocked up DFN (german scientific network) and us webpages also seems quite slow
05:23 <ELGono> while europe is normal
05:23 <CoderForLife> that's unusual =)
05:23 <ELGono> indeed
05:24 <ELGono> ping to jay also +120ms compared to normal
05:25 <ELGono> well time for lunch ... yummy yummy & laterz
05:26 <CoderForLife> cya
05:26 <XioNYC> I dunno about the netsplit, but I'm sure the Tubes short-circuited out by my exit on the information superhighway... o_O very strange
05:27 <CoderForLife> we lost IRC there for about 5 minutes
05:30 <XioNYC> I lost everything for a good 10 minutes - ipfw went "wtf", two Linux ISOs got stalled in Safari, and VirtualPC started having nasty convulsions... And it's not even a full moon!
05:30 <CoderForLife> it was all SNAFUd
05:32 <XioNYC> More like FUBARred... all my Ibercivis WUs are back at square 1 >_<
05:33 <CoderForLife> ack
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05:53 <Soul_keeper> hmmm
05:53 <Soul_keeper> oracle would have you believe it takes 18 lines of C code just to close a db ...
05:54 <Soul_keeper> first thing i have to locate on this internet is what are the includes for berkeley db ...
05:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah this will take some time
06:02 <Soul_keeper> so basically one of the admins saw some pesky ircd thing running in psaux and killed it :) ?
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06:19 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%
06:19 <CoderForLife> keep hope and irc alive
06:19 <CoderForLife> laterz
06:32 <hawmps> spork >> 188.8.131.52
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07:10 <hawmps> &more
07:10 <Romulus> hawmps: 10 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.;
07:20 <Soul_keeper> absolutely amazing
07:21 <Soul_keeper> ZERO installation instructions for berkeley db
07:21 <Soul_keeper> oracle must be a worthless company
07:21 <hawmps> except oracle is worth a couple billion
07:23 <Soul_keeper> well good for them ...
07:30 <Soul_keeper> had to consult some random guy's blog for the info
07:33 <Soul_keeper> DB databases can store up to 256 terabytes of data. Individual record keys or record data can store up to 4 gigabytes of data. great ....
07:37 <Soul_keeper> definately an "in crowd" thing to learn this
07:37 <Soul_keeper> the docs are vague at best
07:38 <Soul_keeper> fuck this crap, i'm going to sleep
07:38 <wdsmia_> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
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07:54 <Soul_keeper> and of course other bullshit like creating a team of your own in gpugrid is apparently something that can't be done
07:54 <wdsmia_> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
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07:54 <lubomir> hello
07:54 <hawmps> hi
07:54 <lubomir> i use boinc on windows and linux
07:54 <hawmps> and...?
07:54 <lubomir> and have the problem, that on linux it doesnt find the cuda device
07:55 <hawmps> what vid card?
07:55 <lubomir> nvidia 8800gtx with 8800ultra bios
07:56 <hawmps> check the boinc linux cuda howto?
07:56 <lubomir> i use gentoo and set there the cuda useflag(activate the cuda support). so i think it should work...
07:56 <lubomir> where is that howto?
07:58 <hawmps> it's not quite that simple... but looking..
07:58 <hawmps> &tiny http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1163485
07:59 <Soul_keeper> you have to have the cuda enabled nvidia drivers installed, and X must be running for boinc to detect cuda
07:59 <hawmps> fedora gentoo should work the same
07:59 <Romulus> Title: Download CUDA Code - complete and free toolkit for creating derivative !@#&s (at www.nvidia.com)
07:59 <hawmps> I was getting to that...
08:00 <Soul_keeper> btw gpugrid claims that the ps3 cell processor is 16x faster than a 2GHz opteron ...
08:00 <lubomir> i have the cuda code installed
08:01 <Soul_keeper> what do you mean by "code" ?
08:01 <lubomir> that have been activated as dependencies when setting the cuda useflag
08:01 <hawmps> not just libcuda.so
08:01 <lubomir> dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit
08:01 <lubomir> version 2.1
08:02 <Soul_keeper> the toolkit will do you no good
08:02 <Soul_keeper> that's if you wanna create/build cuda enabled apps
08:02 <Soul_keeper> you need the cuda enabled drivers
08:02 <lubomir> nvidia-drivers 180.29 are installed
08:03 <Soul_keeper> CUDA driver: NVIDIA Driver for Linux 64-bit with CUDA Support (180.22) this is the latest cuda enabled driver for 64-bit linux
08:04 <lubomir> Soul_keeper, gentoo means building everything from source. so i think the cuda-toolkit is been installed to build boinc with cuda support
08:04 <lubomir> the 22 was the first one
08:04 <Soul_keeper> i know what gentoo is, and no you can't build proprietary drivers from source
08:04 <lubomir> the second was the 27 and now actual is the 29
08:04 <lubomir> of course nvidia is always bin ^
08:05 <Soul_keeper> you have the non-cuda enabled drivers
08:05 <Soul_keeper> just go to the link i posted when you first came in and fix the problem
08:05 <Soul_keeper> your useflags will fix nothing
08:05 <lubomir> nvidia have take the cuda out???
08:06 <Romulus> Title: Download CUDA Code - complete and free toolkit for creating derivative !@#&s (at www.nvidia.com)
08:06 <Soul_keeper> there are two versions of the drivers
08:06 <Soul_keeper> cuda enabled, and standard
08:13 <lubomir> Soul_keeper, thank you very much. I never would get the idea, that nvidia adds cuda to 22 and the 27 or 29 have again no cuda...
08:13 <lubomir> is it the same on windows?
08:13 <lubomir> i think there every new driver have cuda,or?
08:15 <Soul_keeper> i dunno, i havn't used windows since 2004
08:15 <Soul_keeper> everytime you upgrade the drivers for linux you need to use that "get cuda" link tho
08:16 <Soul_keeper> errr cuda_get.html
08:16 <lubomir> nvidia should put cuda inside every release...
08:17 <Soul_keeper> it's still pretty recent, i think they want to keep the drivers small, since cuda is only supported on geforce 8 and up
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08:18 <lubomir> Soul_keeper, seems like on windows its always in
08:18 <lubomir> Supports NVIDIA PhysX acceleration on GeForce via CUDA 2.0 for SDK versions 2.7.3, 2.7.2, 2.7.5, 2.8.0 and 2.8.1 (requires graphics driver v177.81 or later).
08:19 <Soul_keeper> maybe they'll add it in later then
08:19 <Soul_keeper> PhysX is for games and stuff tho
08:20 <lubomir> yea, i know
08:20 <lubomir> but it base on cuda
08:20 <lubomir> so its only supported with series8 and up
08:21 <Soul_keeper> :)
08:21 <Soul_keeper> i have a 9800GT
08:22 <Soul_keeper> very happy with it
08:23 <lubomir> mine 8800gtx@ultra is faster :-P
08:23 <lubomir> i downgrade now the driver
08:23 <lubomir> will come in some minutes again
08:23 <lubomir> thx for your help
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08:24 <Soul_keeper> well it's not necesarrily a downgrade, the version number is arbitrary
08:25 <Soul_keeper> released only 5 days appart ...
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08:28 <lubomir> no cuda device find
08:28 <lubomir> :-(
08:29 <lubomir> 180.22 is installed now
08:30 <lubomir> boinc starts as a default with linux a moment "before" X. So i stopped boinc(process) and start it again after the X server was completely up and running, but it doesnt change anything
08:34 <lubomir> Soul_keeper, have you an idea?
08:41 <Soul_keeper> let's troubleshoot
08:41 <Soul_keeper> glxinfo |grep rendering
08:42 <Soul_keeper> Driver "nvidia" in your xorg.conf ?
08:43 <lubomir> glxinfo |grep rendering
08:43 <lubomir> direct rendering: Yes
08:43 <hawmps> iirc, you may need to start a minimal desktop, and run boinc via run_manager..
08:43 <lubomir> i play 3d game on linux ;-)
08:44 <lubomir> and yes, i have set the nvidia driver in my xorg.conf
08:44 <Soul_keeper> what version of boinc ?
08:44 <lubomir> 6.4.5
08:45 <Soul_keeper> i'm using 6.5.0
08:46 <lubomir> 6.4.5 have cuda support and is the actual stable one
08:47 <Soul_keeper> how's that working for you ?
08:47 <lubomir> how did you mean that?
08:47 <Soul_keeper> :)
08:47 <lubomir> the actual testing one is the 6.6.4 for linux
08:47 <lubomir> but there is no ebuild for that
08:48 <Soul_keeper> i havn't tryed 6.4.5, 6.6.x was unstable for me. but 6.5.0 works perfect
08:49 <Soul_keeper> i think it must be the 64-bit version to work also, i havn't confirmed this tho
08:49 <Soul_keeper> ./boinc --version
08:49 <Soul_keeper> 6.5.0 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
08:50 <Soul_keeper> soul 20792 39.1 8.1 62616 41396 pts/1 SNl+ Feb17 219:30 acemd_6.59_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu__cuda --device 0
08:51 <lubomir> i have a 64bit os running on all my machines
08:52 <Soul_keeper> what is your output from ./boinc --version ?
08:52 <Soul_keeper> did you compile it or install a binary ?
08:52 <lubomir> compile
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08:52 <lubomir> i use the boinc_gui
08:54 <lubomir> /usr/bin/boinc_client --version
08:54 <lubomir> 6.4.5 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
08:55 <Soul_keeper> ok i'm downloading the source now to see if there are any special configure options for cuda
08:56 <lubomir> are you a boinc dev?
08:58 <Soul_keeper> no
08:58 <Soul_keeper> i'm not seeing any special config options
08:58 <Soul_keeper> have you tryed just running "boinc" instead of "boinc_client" ?
09:00 <lubomir> there is no "boinc"
09:00 <lubomir> boinc_client boinc_cmd boinc_gui
09:01 <Soul_keeper> mine has installed boinc boinccmd and boincmgr
09:02 <lubomir> okay, its just named other
09:02 <Soul_keeper> i bet if you downloaded the binary package, untared it to a directory and ran boinc it would detect your cuda device fine ..
09:03 <Soul_keeper> you might want to do that just to see if it works
09:03 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
09:03 <Romulus> Title: SourceCode - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
09:04 <Soul_keeper> i think i'm running the binary 6.5.0 on my cuda system
09:05 <lubomir> is it the .sh?
09:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah
09:05 <lubomir> because i dont find any tar.gz
09:05 <lubomir> okay
09:06 <lubomir> ah, and what problem did you had with 6.6.x?
09:06 <lubomir> on windows i also had problems with 6.6.2
09:06 <lubomir> it just load cuda work
09:06 <lubomir> and no normal
09:06 <lubomir> 6.6.4 is working fine
09:07 <Soul_keeper> i recommend sticking to 6.4.5 or 6.5.0 in linux
09:08 <lubomir> i just try the 664 to see if it detects the card
09:08 <Soul_keeper> btw i never install boinc outside my homedir ... i always keep it in ~/BOINC and run it from there
09:08 <Soul_keeper> easier to manage and ensure old files aren't laying around
09:08 <lubomir> does it detect my other boinc?
09:09 <lubomir> i mean, when i upgrade the boinc version, it say, old things file, upgrade from xxx to xxx
09:09 <Soul_keeper> yeah
09:09 <lubomir> i dont want that the bin version i run now upgrades the configuration
09:09 <lubomir> or so
09:09 <Soul_keeper> that's normal
09:09 <lubomir> just see if detects the cuda
09:10 <lubomir> yea, but i dont want that for the test now ^^
09:10 <lubomir> and how should i unpack that .sh?
09:10 <lubomir> .sh is normaly script...
09:10 <Soul_keeper> chmod +x
09:11 <lubomir> ah,lol, so just run the script
09:12 <ELGono> rehi
09:12 <Soul_keeper> lo ELGono
09:12 <ELGono> Soul_keeper : we still wierd routing to us
09:13 <lubomir> okay, that version directly detects the cuda
09:13 <ELGono> looks like 2 main routes active now ... but with high latency ... london-new york and london-phoenix, arizona
09:13 <Soul_keeper> lubomir, :)
09:14 <Soul_keeper> i never trust package managers to install boinc or drivers
09:14 <ELGono> hannover(germany) - new york seem to be down
09:14 <lubomir> now i update to 29 and test again. cant beleve, that the new driver dont have cuda
09:14 <Soul_keeper> they were released only 5 days appart
09:14 <Soul_keeper> they are both new
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09:14 <Soul_keeper> the version numbers are arbitrary
09:15 <ELGono> wich means the 4th intercontinental fibre-outage within a week
09:15 <Soul_keeper> nice
09:15 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - YouTube - Mactini -The Peter Serafinowicz Show Christmas Special - BBC Two-CosmoPod.mp4 (at www.youtube.com)
09:15 <ELGono> 2x europe - africa ... 1x europe - persia and now europe - us
09:16 <Soul_keeper> lol
09:18 <lubomir> i never seen those before
09:18 <lubomir> but the videos are great
09:19 <Soul_keeper> funny
09:25 <lubomir> i try the 29 now
09:25 <lubomir> with 664
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09:38 <hawmps> spork >> 184.108.40.206
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09:55 <lubomir> Soul_keeper, everything works fine with 180.29
09:55 <lubomir> the 180.22 was the version where cuda 2.1 gets implementated
09:55 <lubomir> but the versions above have also all the cuda support
09:56 <lubomir> and just fixes you can read in the changelog
09:56 <lubomir> like support for new kernel or so
10:05 <Soul_keeper> ok
10:07 <hawmps> 180 drivers are very slow...
10:08 <lubomir> hawmps, slow?no
10:08 <lubomir> just run faster then on 64bit windows in 3d games
10:08 <lubomir> 4gb ram, intel x48, 4*3ghz overlcokced intel quadcore, and so on
10:09 <hawmps> read the nvidia forum...
10:43 <Soul_keeper> funny i can't find any working source for an example of a program written in C or C++ that creates then writes to a berkeley db ....
10:44 <Soul_keeper> it's apparently top secret
10:44 <Soul_keeper> i guess the better thing to do would be store my 10,000+ lines of code to a regular text file
10:45 <Soul_keeper> not like it matters .... pretty much the same principle
10:45 <Soul_keeper> could have my own key/value logic
10:47 <Soul_keeper> they make it too difficult to use so called "industry standards"
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11:10 <Soul_keeper> my theory is nobody wants anyone else to know what they know, because then you become a threat
11:11 <Soul_keeper> you have to pay for knowledge, hard work will never be enough
11:28 <Soul_keeper> so called irc "help channels" are usually a place for people to troll and claim superiority over others
11:31 <Soul_keeper> there seems to be nothing open about C/C++ programming anymore, it's all "BUY BUY BUY" "TRIAL, PROMO" etc. when searching for learning material
11:34 <Soul_keeper> #c is just like #perl another mental masterbation channel with nothing constructive going on
11:37 <Soul_keeper> that's enough ranting for now.
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13:10 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx bkk
13:10 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 82Â°F / 28Â°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ICT; Chance of Rain. High:91 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:80 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:91 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:78 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:89 ° F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:78 ° F.;
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14:03 <hawmps> AMD - foundry company approved today for their new $5bn plant just up the road...
14:03 <MTughan> Good thing?
14:04 <hawmps> very good thing..
14:06 <ELGono> lo jay
14:12 <ELGono> still got wierd routes to lledgerock
14:27 <MTughan> This thread is nuts... http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/credit_thread.png
14:27 <MTughan> All the messages there except for the top and bottom ones are from that thread.
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15:27 <luckyhell> Hy, I have a question. Is this the right forum for having questions like how to shut down boinc under ubuntu?
15:28 *** luckyhell is now known as luckyhel
15:28 <MTughan> Are you wanting to close the client, stop computation temporarily, or shut down the client altogether for a time?
15:28 *** luckyhel is now known as luckyhell
15:29 <luckyhell> Hy, I would like to close the client (computing) but I can't. It is still computing
15:30 <MTughan> So you'd like it to stop computing for a while, and then start again when you tell it to?
15:31 <luckyhell> yes, that it is, what I would like to do. What I know, is just (in the advanced windows) clicking on window and exit. But it does not work
15:32 <MTughan> Nope, because BOINC has two parts to it: a core client, which is just a daemon, and a graphical manager, which communicates with the client through TCP ports.
15:32 <MTughan> In the manager, go to Activity->Suspend. That should do it.
15:33 <luckyhell> Sorry for asking; the activity button it the first button at the top left, right?
15:33 <luckyhell> (I have a german translation)
15:33 <MTughan> It's a menu.
15:34 <luckyhell> ah, now I got it!
15:34 <luckyhell> thank you very much!
15:34 <MTughan> np
15:34 <luckyhell> how easy...
15:34 <luckyhell> damn, sometimes...
15:34 <MTughan> Heh.
15:34 <luckyhell> OK, anyway. thank you very much
15:35 <luckyhell> OK, one more question: I can't save the window position. Do I have to do something within sudo to do so?
15:35 <MTughan> I don't know if that gets saved. I've never really encountered that anyway, on Windows, Mac or GNOME/KDE.
15:36 <luckyhell> OK, doesn't matter. when I look in (like) system control window, I can't find boinc running. How can I find it?
15:37 <MTughan> System control window? Shows the running processes?
15:38 <luckyhell> yes, it shows all processes running, but not boinc
15:38 <luckyhell> I can image, it has to do with the root?
15:38 <MTughan> If it only shows processes running under your name, it won't show in there. It runs under boinc_master and boinc_project users as I remember.
15:38 <FreeLarry58> well found out about the new comp issues - asus strikes again
15:39 <FreeLarry58> bent pins in the 1366 socket
15:39 <FreeLarry58> as well as marginal ps - need more than 500w for setup
15:40 <FreeLarry58> i7 940 rated at 130W by it self
15:40 <luckyhell> oh, sorry, I think I am wrong. I can see some root processes (like dbus-launch, I guess)
15:41 <FreeLarry58> so xcamel if you thinking a p6t board - be sure to verify socket pins before purchase
15:42 * FreeLarry58 remembers having to expand the tree in gnome for sys monitor to see what boinc running
15:52 <Romulus> Title: Over the Hedge free online comic strip library at comics.com (at comics.com)
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16:23 <xcamel> 'lo
16:23 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
16:24 <xcamel> a bit of snow - got slippery fast...
16:24 <MTughan> We've got a mix of snow and rain today.
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16:26 <CoderForLife> hello Jay and Michael and Larry
16:26 <MTughan> 'lo Don
16:28 <xcamel> sinuses pounding... bbl.
16:31 <CoderForLife> dinner - bbiab
16:36 <MTughan> Nvidia Forceware 182.06 drivers released. Nvidia says it brings 8-12% increases in many games.
16:40 <FreeLarry58> lo CoderForLife jay michael
16:41 <FreeLarry58> was just looking at team - anyone seen or heard from spit lately? she hasn't been active since the 24th of jan
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16:52 <xcamel> no, and nothing from sethy either...
16:55 <xcamel> &wx 12074
16:55 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 30.4°F / -0.9°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Snow...possibly mixing with rain at times. Additional snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches. Near steady temperature in the lower 30s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Thursday - (1 more message)
16:55 <xcamel> &more
16:55 <Romulus> xcamel: Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain and snow showers. Highs around 40. Temperature falling into the mid 30s in the afternoon. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow showers. Cooler with lows around 19. West winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;
16:55 <FreeLarry58> tanks jay
16:55 <xcamel> 4" snow in 2 hours... bumper cars city..
16:55 <xcamel> watta buncha morons.
16:56 <FreeLarry58> always out sledding aren't they
16:56 <FreeLarry58> ohh word of caution for asus p6t boards - check the socket pins before you leave store
16:57 <CoderForLife> back
16:57 <FreeLarry58> and if possible install your cpu too
16:57 <FreeLarry58> wb don
16:57 <CoderForLife> thx
16:58 <CoderForLife> big c0mp@any meeting today
16:58 <CoderForLife> the profit sharing contribution was a very healthy 6%
16:58 <FreeLarry58> big huh does that mean dumbo senior in attendance? as well as andre the giant or the jolly green guy?
16:59 <FreeLarry58> humm 6% for an insurance company is big bucks
17:00 <CoderForLife> in celebration of the upcoming 100th anniversary of the c0mp@any, we're going to partner with the local Habitat for Humanity to build a house for every decade of c0mp@ny history over the next 5 years
17:00 <FreeLarry58> sounds worthwhile
17:01 <CoderForLife> as long as Jimmy Carter doesn't show up
17:01 <FreeLarry58> ahh he's just trying to keep his name alive
17:02 <CoderForLife> I have problems with H4H because of that
17:02 <FreeLarry58> can understand that
17:03 <CoderForLife> people not on an incentive bonus plan got an additional 2% cash bonus
17:04 <CoderForLife> looks like our results were much better than any others in the industry
17:07 <CoderForLife> well - enough on that
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17:09 <xcamel> 3rd Earthquake In As Many Weeks Rattles New Jersey...
17:09 <xcamel> the 'real' New Jerky
17:12 <FreeLarry58> well time to go back to tacoma and pick up machine - new mb and upgraded ps
17:13 * FreeLarry58 humm i7 online tonight hopefully
17:13 <xcamel> 750 minimum on that beast..
17:13 <FreeLarry58> thats what i told them upto 1000
17:13 <xcamel> depends on the vc, and number of drives
17:14 <FreeLarry58> told him he could use the old board for practice on straightening pins - i'm sure he'll see a lot more of them
17:14 <xcamel> that's too bad... good thing it didn't cook the chip
17:14 <FreeLarry58> book says if 2 high end pcie boards 1000
17:15 <FreeLarry58> yeah just affected memory - would only post if had one dimm
17:15 <xcamel> you're damned lucky
17:15 <FreeLarry58> any more and blank screen
17:16 <FreeLarry58> well off i go for another 50 mile trip
17:16 <xcamel> I did manage to sit down and tweak up 'pete' today... should catch up with repete fairly quickly now
17:16 <FreeLarry58> &tca
17:16 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Are you daft?
17:16 <FreeLarry58> &bye
17:16 <Romulus> later ace
17:21 <wdsmia_> re-hi
17:21 <CoderForLife> *lo
17:21 <MTughan> 'lo Doug
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17:27 <xcamel> I am really getting to hate this winter..
17:27 * wdsmia knows the feeling
17:28 <CoderForLife> it is becoming annoying
17:28 <CoderForLife> er became
17:28 <CoderForLife> er was always destined to be
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17:50 <xcamel> son just rolled in - roads nasty..
17:50 <CoderForLife> glad he got home safe
17:54 <xcamel> indeed - others not so lucky
17:55 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 30.0°F / -1.1°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Much colder. Low 5 to 10 above. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Low (1 more message)
17:55 <wdsmia> &more
17:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 15. West wind near 10 mph shifting to the south after midnight.;
17:56 * CoderForLife finally gets his Code to produce the expected results
18:02 <CoderForLife> ... and it was good ...
18:09 <xcamel> ...and he was glad it was good...
18:17 <CoderForLife> indeed =)
18:17 <CoderForLife> Stephen's home - bbiab
18:26 <xcamel> great show on SciChan last night...
18:26 <xcamel> 'Sex in Space'
18:50 <CoderForLife> back
18:50 <CoderForLife> I'm more interested in the @Home version
19:01 <xcamel> they posed many interesting questions...
19:03 <CoderForLife> doubtless
19:04 <CoderForLife> why do you think the aliens come here?
19:04 <xcamel> and end up in trailer parks..
19:05 <CoderForLife> I meant those space aliens...
19:06 <xcamel> who end up in trailer parks..
19:06 <xcamel> UFO hunters on @ 10 pm
19:07 <CoderForLife> I'll be sound asleep
19:10 <CoderForLife> hopefully
19:12 <xcamel> Kelsey Grammer:
19:13 <xcamel> "The ones who have done the most damage to the US economy will reap the biggest rewards"
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19:14 <CoderForLife> man - we're digging a deep hole
19:15 <CoderForLife> and I'm an expert on digging deep holes
19:16 <xcamel> and he was talking about all the ones obummer is bailing out...
19:16 <xcamel> especially bad mortgages
19:16 <CoderForLife> yup so very correct
19:26 <CoderForLife> bailout the losers and punish those that bought what they could afford and played by the rules
19:33 <xcamel> exactly
19:46 * CoderForLife kicks off a test run of his new Code
19:52 <CoderForLife> this might run for days
19:53 <xcamel> bailout@home app?
19:55 <CoderForLife> yeah - it's something along those lines
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19:56 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
19:56 <CoderForLife> speaking of bailouts
19:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
19:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 44.2°F / 6.8°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.52in / 999.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 3.8mph / 6.1km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of rain showers this evening...then snow showers likely after midnight. Snow accumulation less than an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
19:59 <CoderForLife> &more
19:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: precipitation 70 percent.; Thursday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning. Highs in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;
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20:00 <efc> moo
20:01 <xcamel> we're still getting some fairly heavy snow..
20:02 <efc> &wx 31088
20:02 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1006hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Tonight - Occasional showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the evening. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds 10 to 15 (1 more message)
20:03 * CoderForLife steers his ACME parabolic weather dish NE
20:03 <efc> &more
20:03 <Romulus> efc: mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Thursday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.; Tornado Watch for Houston County in effect until 11:00 PM EST on February 18, 2009;
20:03 <efc> tornados sighted
20:03 <xcamel> where..
20:03 <CoderForLife> come back efc!
20:04 <CoderForLife> yup looks like snow xcamel
20:04 <efc> Reynolds, GA, I think
20:04 <efc> &wx Reynolds, GA
20:04 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 67.9°F / 19.9°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Occasional thunderstorms and showers in the evening... then a chance of showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the evening. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds 10 (1 more message)
20:04 <efc> &more
20:04 <Romulus> efc: to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Thursday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Colder. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tornado Watch for Taylor County in effect until 11:00 PM EST on February 18, 2009;
20:05 <efc> same tornado watch
20:05 <efc> they are watching some tornados
20:05 <xcamel> coming out of Alabama?
20:05 <efc> Looks like it
20:06 * wdsmia dont like the T word
20:06 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at www.strikestarus.com)
20:07 <xcamel> I see them...
20:08 <xcamel> small cells, high speed, lots of rotation.
20:08 <CoderForLife> bad news nears
20:09 <CoderForLife> they look like tough hombres
20:09 <xcamel> riding the front edge of a southern jet
20:11 <efc> Shields Up
20:11 <CoderForLife> red alert
20:12 <CoderForLife> set condition one throughout the fleet
20:12 <efc> ZPM is running low
20:13 <xcamel> waiting for hdradar to load..
20:14 <CoderForLife> Danger Will Robinson
20:14 <FreeLarry58> b
20:14 <CoderForLife> speaking of 1960's re-runs
20:14 <FreeLarry58> thats the 50's please
20:15 <CoderForLife> they had TV back then?
20:15 <FreeLarry58> yes they did -- in glorious black and white
20:15 <wdsmia> Larry had a cardboard box and imaganation
20:15 <FreeLarry58> lol
20:16 <CoderForLife> yup - I watched the JFK funeral on B&W TV
20:16 <FreeLarry58> no the neighbor did
20:16 <FreeLarry58> i just peeked thru the curtains at it
20:16 <wdsmia> peeping Larry?
20:16 <FreeLarry58> yeah at <5
20:17 <xcamel> I watched it on B&W laying in bed with the mumps.
20:18 * FreeLarry58 doesn't want to remember the summerhe had mumps - one gland at a time
20:18 <xcamel> hows that for a memory...
20:18 <wdsmia> dont think we got first b&w tv till 65
20:18 <CoderForLife> I watched it on the TV with the chip in the pecan cabinet because I wrecked my tricycle into it
20:18 <FreeLarry58> that was about the time dad's rich friend got first color
20:18 <wdsmia> lol
20:19 <FreeLarry58> first tv in my household wasn't until i turned 9
20:19 <FreeLarry58> and it was cast off from grandparents
20:20 <CoderForLife> I used to watch the Mickey Mouse Club, until they started running the promos for a new fall TV show right in the middle - "The Outer Limits"
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20:20 <CoderForLife> scared me to death
20:21 <FreeLarry58> well new machine verifing disk currently but will have to make a few connection changes - store hooked up the hd to the raid only connectors and its not detecting the optical drive for some reason
20:21 <wdsmia> rod sterling scared lots of kids to death
20:21 <FreeLarry58> you mean the twilight show wasn't a laugh type show?
20:22 <wdsmia> or was that night gallery
20:22 <FreeLarry58> zone
20:22 <FreeLarry58> how about the fat man - Alfred Hitchcock
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20:26 <efc> I remember, they ran some reruns of his variety show
20:27 * CoderForLife dozes off and his head hits the desk
20:27 <FreeLarry58> he had one called Alf.. presents where he showcased various type shows
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20:29 <xcamel> that was a good series..
20:29 <xcamel> anyone watching 'fringe' ??
20:29 <FreeLarry58> i used to enjoy it and dark shadows after school
20:29 <FreeLarry58> fringe isn't known to me tho
20:29 <CoderForLife> The earliest TV show I can remmeber is my parents letting me stay up until 9:00 to watch Topo Gigio on The Ed Sullivan Show
20:30 <CoderForLife> gn
20:30 <FreeLarry58> &nn CoderForLife
20:30 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
20:31 <FreeLarry58> or it that couch
20:46 <xcamel> ah the rail fence wrecker goes by..
20:54 <xcamel> this spring they are going to be the ones fixing it..
21:01 <efc> wonder what'll happen with the california budget
21:03 <efc> "Drunk man run over by train gets $2.3M"
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21:33 <efc> t-storm now
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22:40 <FreeLarry58> humm new machine finally installing fedora10 - 1200 packages then will have to figure out the wireless nic setting
22:41 <FreeLarry58> looks good on hdmi 32 inch tv
22:43 <zombie67> what resolution?
22:43 <FreeLarry58> 720p
22:43 <FreeLarry58> i guess as havent had to set anything
22:43 <FreeLarry58> still on install program
22:43 <zombie67> ah
22:52 <Soul_keeper> freaks
22:53 <FreeLarry58> ???
22:53 <FreeLarry58> freaks or keeps?
22:55 <FreeLarry58> notice memtest86 needs to be updated reads the i7 940 as a celeron chip and doesn't recognize the L2 cache or chipset (x58)
22:58 <Soul_keeper> i think my brain is broken
22:58 <Soul_keeper> i must transcribe entire books, then read them to learn something
22:59 <FreeLarry58> ?? you still have one to break - thought it might be with mine lost in a black hole somewhere
22:59 <Soul_keeper> i think i just spent 3hrs converting the table of contents for a book into html
22:59 <Soul_keeper> wonder how long it will take me to do the whole book ....
23:00 <FreeLarry58> ugg tried that a long time ago - never got the ocr program to work right - of course with the scanner i had it was no wonder
23:00 <FreeLarry58> only a 4" width
23:01 <Soul_keeper> you mean you scanned and it turned into text ?
23:01 <FreeLarry58> gave up after 4 days and still not done with toc
23:01 <FreeLarry58> tried
23:01 <FreeLarry58> got better scanner now
23:01 <Soul_keeper> yeah that crap never works
23:01 <Soul_keeper> i knew better than to attempt something easy
23:01 <FreeLarry58> captured about 60% then
23:02 <Soul_keeper> i want to transcribe 3 books here
23:02 <FreeLarry58> but don't think you want to try it - was win ME software
23:02 <Soul_keeper> i pay these morons all this money for these books and they are worthless to me, because i can't copy/paste/search them
23:03 <Soul_keeper> it's too difficult to get these things into my brain
23:03 <Soul_keeper> unless they are a story or something worthless
23:03 <FreeLarry58> know the feeling
23:04 <Soul_keeper> i guess if i robbed a bank and bought a kindle .... but still worthless
23:04 <Soul_keeper> probably pdf's for kindles
23:04 <FreeLarry58> othertimes it takes many years to forget majority of some books and it still leaves enough for nightmares
23:04 <Soul_keeper> and i still can't copy/paste onto my regular computer
23:05 <FreeLarry58> no conversion software - or is it digitally signed to one machine?
23:05 <Soul_keeper> i dunno, i've never had luck with pdf to txt conversion
23:06 <Soul_keeper> once something is pdf it's ruined forever in my experience
23:06 <FreeLarry58> must be graphical as in picture then
23:06 <Soul_keeper> yeah kinda
23:07 <Soul_keeper> it's stored in the file with some kinda algorithm where the pixels go, so you gotta covert that somehow into text, and it never works
23:07 <FreeLarry58> www.adlibsoftware.com
23:08 <FreeLarry58> www.docsmartz.net
23:08 <Romulus> Title: Index (at sterlingdesktops.com)
23:08 <Soul_keeper> books should all be in that form
23:09 <Soul_keeper> they'll probably sue me for putting their table of contents on my webserver ...
23:09 <FreeLarry58> freedownloadmanager.org/downloads/pdf_conversion_software_software
23:10 <Soul_keeper> won't work for me
23:10 <FreeLarry58> not already in pdf?
23:10 <Soul_keeper> no
23:10 <Soul_keeper> paperback
23:11 <FreeLarry58> ahh so need to scan first and run ocr on image then
23:12 <Soul_keeper> http://pelusa.fis.cinvestav.mx/tmatos/LaSumA/LaSumA2_archivos/Supercomputo/The_C_Programming_Language.pdf "nice" i found a pdf ....
23:12 <Romulus> Title: OCR Software - Convert scanned images to Word, Excel, searchable PDF, HTML or other text formats without retyping (at www.scanstore.com)
23:13 <FreeLarry58> omni is what i tried under window me long time ago - did convert around 60% but scanner what did me in - also did not maintain margins fonts etc
23:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah i don't believe in windows
23:16 <FreeLarry58> humm select all and copy worked
23:17 <FreeLarry58> only thing is will have to redo the format but a lot less time as text there
23:17 <FreeLarry58> well need to go check on new machine and get a bite to eat - good luck Soul_keeper
23:19 <Romulus> Title: PDFTOHTML conversion program (at pdftohtml.sourceforge.net)
23:27 <Soul_keeper> Poppler ...
23:42 <Soul_keeper> poppler works :)