IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-02-27

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00:28 <MTughan> Big split...

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00:34 <jasong> Oh God, I think I'm back to hallucinating that bugs are landing on me.  It's almost worse than when I thought I had a psychic connection to Saddam Hussein and thought he was conspiring with Bill Clinton to cause mayhem.

00:34 <jasong> Word of advice:  Mentally ill people should not be allowed to listen to Rush Limbaugh broadcasts

00:34 <jasong> it's true, but totally hilarious in hindsight

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01:20 <Tank_Master> Nickuwo?

01:20 <Romulus> hmm... Nickuwo is haveing problems setting up a BOINC server, can anyone help me, Tank_Master

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01:21 <Tank_Master> stfu romy

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02:13 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

02:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 54.1F / 12.3C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1003.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 7.3mph / 11.7km/h ; Tonight - A chance of showers this evening. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Breezy. Lows in the mid 50s. Temperatures rising into the mid 50s after midnight. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of (2 more messages)

02:14 <CoderForLife> &more

02:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain 100 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the morning. Highs in the lower 50s. Temperatures falling into the mid 40s in the afternoon. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming northwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Much colder with lows in the upper 20s. North (1 more message)

02:14 <CoderForLife> &more

02:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 10 to 15 mph.;

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04:10 <CoderForLife> &quiet

04:10 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

04:25 <XioNYC> &roulette

04:25 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!

04:25 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.

04:25 <CoderForLife> ouch - the noise...

04:26 * XioNYC hands CoderForLife noise-cancelling headset

04:27 <CoderForLife> ahhh  relief

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04:40 <CoderForLife> morning desti clusty up365 XioNYC

04:41 <clusty> mornin

04:41 <XioNYC> g'morning

04:41 <clusty> XioNYC, that's a nice one with roulette :D

04:42 <XioNYC> Cyber-life imitates life :-P

04:44 <up365> good am

04:45 <CoderForLife> flash - boom

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05:41 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - but it's Friday

05:41 <CoderForLife> laterz

05:42 <Soul_keeper> excellent

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06:34 <hawmps> mornin

07:03 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 24.8F / -4.0C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - A slight chance of rain this morning...then rain this afternoon. Highs around 50. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with numerous rain showers in the (1 more message)

07:08 <hawmps> &more

07:08 <Romulus> hawmps: evening... then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the lower 20s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming northwest after midnight. Gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Much cooler with highs in the lower 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 1:00 AM EST on February 28, 2009;

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07:55 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

07:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19.7F / -6.8C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Colder. High in the upper 20s. North wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Snow likely. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low 10 to 15. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to (1 more message)

07:55 <wdsmia> &more

07:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 25 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of snow in the morning. High in the upper 20s. North wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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08:15 <PovAdct_w> TGIF

08:17 <Soul_keeper> what do you want now PovAdct_w ?!?

08:21 <Soul_keeper> aren't you supposed to be sleeping PovAdct_w ?

08:21 <Soul_keeper> :)

08:21 <PovAdct_w> I WISH

08:21 <PovAdct_w> I'm at w$%& :(

08:22 <Soul_keeper> ahhh

08:22 <Soul_keeper>

08:22 <Romulus> Title: Lsnet Stats 0.3.0 (at

08:22 <Soul_keeper> check it out now :)

08:24 <PovAdct_w> using JPEG for graphs = fail

08:25 <Soul_keeper> why ?

08:25 <Soul_keeper> png prefered ?

08:26 <Soul_keeper> yeah i used interlaced jpeg

08:27 <PovAdct_w> jpeg is for photos

08:27 <Soul_keeper> so what are you saying then ?   it'll be better detail as png ?

08:27 <Soul_keeper> or smaller size ?

08:27 <PovAdct_w> dunno about size, but definitely better detail, try it and see

08:28 <Soul_keeper> ok

08:28 <PovAdct_w> there's noise around edges of the graph now

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08:28 <Soul_keeper> appears i was using png earlier

08:29 <Soul_keeper>   ok i see the difference, looks like black fading on the edges of the jpeg

08:29 <Soul_keeper>

08:30 <PovAdct_w> hard to tell because it's not the same image :)

08:31 <Soul_keeper> well you can see where the red/green border each other, it's like jpeg fades them together

08:31 <PovAdct_w> yep

08:34 <Soul_keeper> that'll go into 0.3.1 :)

08:35 <PovAdct_w> if you split the image in its hue,saturation,lightness components, it will explain a lot about how JPEG works...

08:37 <Soul_keeper> great thanks, i'll do that

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08:44 <zombie67> is DA aware that NNW does not work for GPU projects?

08:44 <zombie67> with 5.6.11

08:44 <zombie67> 6.6.11

08:44 <PovAdct_w> tell him

08:44 <zombie67> I dont' want to tell him if he already knows

08:48 <zombie67> what is the file name he always asks for again?

08:48 <PovAdct_w> NNW never working for GPU should be obviously noticeable and not needing a log, in my opinion

08:49 <PovAdct_w> but well, enable sched_debug and send the relevant part of stdoutdae.txt

08:49 <Soul_keeper> it works in 6.5.0

08:57 <zombie67> Wow.  The stdoutdae is 1.3 mb, and only goes back 36 minutes.

08:58 <PovAdct_w> then it produced a lot of logging :)

08:58 <PovAdct_w> did you have the debug flag turned on already?

08:58 <PovAdct_w> wait I just noticed, it's not sched_debug you need

08:58 <zombie67> yeah

08:58 <PovAdct_w> it's work fetch debug, don't remember exact tag name

08:58 <zombie67> i have the following on:  network_status_debug, checkpoint_debug_, debt_debug

08:58 <zombie67> scratch thtat

08:59 <zombie67> some are 0

08:59 <zombie67> lemme loot again

08:59 <zombie67> work_fetch_debug, cpu_sched_debug, debt_debug

09:00 <PovAdct_w> turn off all the debug flags except work_fetch_debug, so you don't clutter the log with irrelevant info

09:00 <zombie67> in any case, the d/l of the tasks must have happened further back than 36 minutes ago.

09:00 <PovAdct_w> and remember you can re-read cc_config.xml from the advanced menu without having to restart the client

09:05 <zombie67> is there a setting to allow the log to go back farther, or grow larger?

09:06 <PovAdct_w> probably, but why do you need it? DA won't accept a 170000-line log anyway

09:09 <PovAdct_w> set NNW, force an update, and if you got work, cut that part of the log and send it

09:29 <zombie67> forcing an update does not necessarily force work fetch

09:29 <PovAdct_w> then abort other tasks from that project or something :)

09:30 <PovAdct_w> I'm simply saying: reproduce the problem with the flag on, and send that small piece of log

09:30 <zombie67> also, I would not be sending the whole log.

09:30 <zombie67> I just need the history large enough so it doesn't scroll off

09:31 <zombie67> finally deleting SETI Beta tasks does not work.  the tasks just get resent

09:32 <zombie67> very annoying when you need to delete tasks permanently.

09:34 <PovAdct_w> server bug... a manually-aborted task should be never resent

09:34 <PovAdct_w> report that on the mailing list too

09:34 <zombie67> no thanks

09:35 <zombie67> they get all snarky..."prove it"

09:35 <zombie67> lots of work at BURP and ORE

09:36 <PovAdct_w> note if you suspend a task from a project, BOINC won't fetch any more work from the project

09:37 <zombie67> I'll try that later, if GPU grid tasks don't download naturally.

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12:46 <MTughan> Well... Apparently, the iPhone is selling so bad in Japan that carriers are giving it away for a two-year contract.

13:00 <zombie67> happened again.

13:00 <MTughan> Did you get the log?

13:00 <zombie67> but still, nothing in the only goes back 15 minutes

13:00 <PovAdct_w> wow, is it printing that many messages?

13:00 <zombie67> yeah

13:00 <PovAdct_w> what about the manager's Messages tab?

13:01 <zombie67> I quit BOINC, to keep it from writing more to the log

13:01 <zombie67> so that's gone

13:01 <PovAdct_w> ah well...

13:01 <PovAdct_w> see stdoutdae.old

13:11 <ELGono> setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):

13:11 <ELGono>    Device 1 : GeForce 8600 GT

13:11 <ELGono> ;) workz great

13:11 <ELGono> reactivated a box

13:20 <zombie67> okay, got it:

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13:26 <zombie67> so, what does the log tell us?

13:28 <DrBashir> hello

13:28 <DrBashir> i have problem to run boinc for seti on debian 5 (lenny)

13:28 <DrBashir> boinc_client --attach_project key

13:28 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

13:29 <PovAdct_w> don't ever run boinc_client

13:29 <DrBashir> 27-Feb-2009 19:29:30 [---] [error] GUI RPC bind failed: 98

13:29 <DrBashir> gstate.init() failed: -180

13:29 <DrBashir> :(

13:29 <PovAdct_w> yes, that's because you're starting the client again

13:29 <PovAdct_w> and it's already running

13:29 <PovAdct_w> if you used debian package, boinc_client should have already started when you booted your computer

13:29 <PovAdct_w> use boinc_cmd to control the running client

13:30 <PovAdct_w> I don't know why they don't remove --attach_project from boinc_client to avoid this confusion...

13:30 <DrBashir> i will start this on a server

13:30 <DrBashir> there isnt gnome or kde

13:30 <PovAdct_w> boinc_cmd is command line

13:30 <DrBashir> ok thx

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13:31 <DrBashir> Authorization failure: -155

13:31 <DrBashir> hm

13:31 <PovAdct_w> argh

13:31 <MTughan> You'll need permission to read gui_rpc_auth.cfg so the command line program can authenticate to the core client.

13:31 <PovAdct_w> I'll kill a boinc dev and a debian packater, both at the same time

13:32 <PovAdct_w> MTughan: the issue is boinc_cmd doesn't look in /etc/boinc-client, only the current directory

13:32 <MTughan> Doesn't he have to run it from there though?

13:32 <PovAdct_w> he shouldn't have to, if boinc_cmd didn't suck

13:32 <DrBashir> MTughan: what must i do?

13:32 <DrBashir> is the gui_rpc_auth.cfg root?

13:33 <PovAdct_w> DrBashir: it's simply in a place where boinc_cmd doesn't search

13:33 <PovAdct_w> cd /etc/boinc-client, then boinc_cmd will work

13:33 <DrBashir> ok thx

13:38 <DrBashir> fine it runs on my atom router ;)

13:39 <PovAdct_w> Apple's wireless routers seem to have an "interesting" CPU, someone should try to run BOINC on them...

13:39 <PovAdct_w> it's like 500MHz

13:39 <DrBashir> gives for munin a boinc plugin?

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13:59 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, got a link with the specs ?

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15:19 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

15:26 <zombie67> I fixed this problem (I hope).

15:26 <zombie67> It will appear in 6.6.12

15:26 <zombie67> - David

15:26 <Soul_keeper> you guys ever use http or socks proxy connections with boinc ?

15:26 <zombie67> nope

15:29 <Tank_Master> no need for it here

15:33 <Soul_keeper> i think socks/http proxy is my problem with my wireless internet, they must have me running thru something like that

15:34 <Soul_keeper> i just wanna be able to use boinc manager to monitor my wirless internet system

15:35 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: it's a special CPU, not standard

15:35 <PovAddict> I'll search

15:36 <Soul_keeper> RISC maybe ?

15:36 <Soul_keeper> arm ...

15:36 <PovAddict> it's a "SoC"

15:36 <PovAddict> (system-on-a-chip)

15:38 <PovAddict>

15:38 <Romulus> <> (at

15:38 <PovAddict> "a Marvell 88F5BF01 C500 500Mhz SoC (System on a Chip)"

15:38 <PovAddict> 128MB RAM

15:48 <Soul_keeper> ahhh yeah

15:48 <Soul_keeper> i was reading about that like 2 months ago

15:48 <Soul_keeper> MRVL  they are publically traded

15:51 <xcamel> OSSEC version 2.0 can be downloaded from

15:51 <xcamel>

16:01 <Soul_keeper> ok, but why ?

16:01 <PovAddict> for those here who have OSSEC and didn't upgrade yet

16:03 <xcamel> re-hi

16:03 <xcamel> ossec is a great little HIDS program.. and free.

16:03 <xcamel> works with snort rules too.

16:05 <Soul_keeper> ok i managed to get a remote ssh connection to my box

16:05 <Soul_keeper> so it can be done

16:12 <xcamel> any reason why a project would refuse to get work for any reason - project is not down..

16:12 <PovAddict> does the client *request* work?

16:12 <xcamel> yes

16:13 <xcamel> I just got 24 mw for kahuna

16:13 <xcamel> and it refuses to give suprcaml any at all

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16:13 <xcamel> this is with the 'fixed' 6.6.11

16:14 <PovAddict> and it gives no reason?

16:14 <xcamel> nope

16:14 <PovAddict> if the client is requesting work, then the problem is server-side

16:15 <xcamel> scratch that - it just got a sh*tload

16:41 <MTughan> xcamel: Yeah, MW is having scheduler problems.

16:41 <MTughan> You're by far not the only one.

16:43 <MTughan> PovAddict:

16:43 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:50 <xcamel> thanks

16:55 <xcamel> rain, rain...

16:57 <MTughan> Freezing rain.

16:57 <CoderForLife> Rain, rain go to Jay. Come see Don another day.

16:57 <MTughan> rofl

17:04 <xcamel> backing up to a virtual tape library works well, but tends to bog the system down a bit..

17:06 <CoderForLife> virtual I/O still had a real impact

17:06 <xcamel> it's via usb2 to the terrabook

17:06 <xcamel> but I get the joke..

17:07 <xcamel> and um..."Hi Don"

17:07 <CoderForLife> lol  hi Jay

17:08 <xcamel> made out well on ebay - got a scsi ait3 100/260 external for $389 and a 5pack of new tapes for &149

17:08 <xcamel> seeing my sdx-700v is kind of dying...

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17:09 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

17:09 <efc> hey

17:14 <efc> Nice rain today

17:14 <CoderForLife> hmm

17:14 <CoderForLife> we had some localized flooding - traffic tie-ups due to street flooding

17:15 <CoderForLife> interstate high speed lanes underwater

17:15 <CoderForLife> that'll slow you down

17:15 <efc> people here haven't seen rain in so long they're panicking like its snow

17:15 <efc> $(*$# yankee imports

17:17 <CoderForLife> hmm

17:17 <Romulus> <> (at

17:18 <CoderForLife> what's up with that?

17:19 <efc> that would happen to me in half at hour at wallyworld

17:20 <xcamel> "Hope & Change"

17:20 <CoderForLife> that'll do it to you every time

17:21 <CoderForLife> Wallyworld must have sold out of Obama d'Ors

17:21 <efc> I saw a funny bumper sticker the other day

17:21 <efc> it said "You can Keep the Change - Palin for 2012"

17:21 <CoderForLife> heh

17:21 * CoderForLife waits for Stephen to come home bringing dinner

17:22 <CoderForLife> I came home early and took a nap

17:23 <CoderForLife> the local news that had us rofl at lunch

17:23 <Romulus> <> (at

17:24 <CoderForLife> especially the statue request

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17:25 <efc> its all becoming like a cartoon

17:25 <CoderForLife> good analogy

17:26 <efc> its all spiraling into insanity and its easier to go along than try to stop it

17:26 <CoderForLife> since we'll never recover, eat-drink-and-be-merry

17:28 <efc> I want to get married before its all over.. if you have some daughters, and you're tired of them dating the drummer from the Skum Monkees, and they've had all their shots, send 'em over

17:29 <CoderForLife> I don't *think* there's any daughters in my future

17:29 <xcamel> sorry.. all out.

17:30 <CoderForLife> no more daughters that pass the Scum Monkee test?

17:30 <efc> What CFL? You've got to Do It for the Economy

17:30 <xcamel> it's what has to happen, sadly.

17:30 <efc> Around here a lot of them fail my Excessive Tatoo Test as well

17:31 <efc> tattoo? what a funny world

17:31 <CoderForLife> yeah, hilarious

17:31 <efc> Also my Topilogical Equivilence Test

17:31 <efc> There's not much left after all criteria are applied

17:32 <CoderForLife> you probably want to add a commuicable disease criteria

17:32 <xcamel> I laughed like hell when I saw a photoshopped 'lower back' tramp-stamp... there was a  arrow pointing down, and the words "SLOT B" above it.

17:32 <CoderForLife> heh

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17:33 <efc> She works at the subway close to my office

17:34 <CoderForLife> did you say she works the subway?

17:35 <xcamel> $5 foot long....

17:35 <xcamel> oh that was bad....

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17:35 <CoderForLife> mm-hmm

17:36 <efc> Hehe

17:38 <BadBarbarian> hi all

17:38 <xcamel> 'lo BB

17:38 <CoderForLife> hey Bad

17:38 <efc> moo BB

17:38 <BadBarbarian> finally got my gpu crunching lol

17:38 <MTughan> What GPU?

17:38 <CoderForLife> excellent

17:38 <BadBarbarian> 8600 GT

17:39 <BadBarbarian> its way faster than the cpus on seti

17:39 <MTughan> Older card, for sure. Sounds like some good speed.

17:40 <BadBarbarian> it has 1 gig ddr3 on it

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17:42 * efc presents his hot water heater design again for those who haven't seen it:

17:45 <efc> maybe I need to label it better

17:49 <efc> &wx 30625

17:49 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 59F / 15C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Occasional showers and scattered thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Saturday - Occasional showers and thunderstorms in the morning... (2 more messages)

17:49 <efc> &more

17:49 <Romulus> efc: then showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Saturday Night - Showers likely with isolated thunderstorms in the evening...then occasional rain or snow likely after midnight. No snow accumulation. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.; Areal Flood (1 more message)

17:50 <efc> &more

17:50 <Romulus> efc: Watch for Morgan County in effect until 12:00 PM EST on February 28, 2009;

17:51 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:53 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 28.7F / -1.8C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of snow in the evening. Snow likely after midnight...then a chance of snow late in the night. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Low 10 to 15. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. (1 more message)

17:53 <wdsmia> &more

17:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of snow 70 percent.; Saturday - Cloudy with a 20 percent chance of light snow in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. High in the mid 20s. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Low around 10. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

17:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah that's what i'm talkin' bout, just took the lawn mower blades to a bench grinder

17:56 <Soul_keeper> sharp as a razor now :)

17:57 <Soul_keeper> anyone wanna lay down while i do an evil kenevil jump over them ?

17:58 <efc> Safety First! Wear goggles while lawn mower goes over you.

17:58 <Soul_keeper> :)

17:58 <Soul_keeper> i was like sling blade in my backyard

17:59 <Soul_keeper> benchgrinder on a box, shut that damn neighbor's pitbull up

18:00 * xcamel hates pitbulls

18:00 * wdsmia hates neighbor's

18:01 <MTughan> I've hit MW's server 14 times now... No work.

18:01 * CoderForLife loves dinner - bbiab

18:01 <MTughan> There we go... 43 tasks.

18:01 <xcamel> same thiiing here..

18:01 <Soul_keeper> they don't give me no trouble

18:03 <xcamel> giving everyone trouble today..

18:04 <MTughan> Another 47 tasks there...

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18:15 <xcamel> only another 60k files

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18:20 <Soul_keeper>,7134.html   hmm via finally getting a cpu in a netbook, only took them like 3yrs

18:20 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:33 <Soul_keeper>,0101-166918-0----jpg-.html

18:33 <Romulus> <> (at

18:33 <Soul_keeper> wooohoo amd girls :)

18:36 <MTughan> I suppose that's an efficient way to get people to look at their logo. :P

18:37 <xcamel> It should say "Dual Core" there somewhere..

18:39 * xcamel slaps self

18:39 * wdsmia was thinking now thats a quad

18:39 <Soul_keeper>,2140.html    now that's interesting

18:39 <Romulus> <> (at

18:40 <Soul_keeper> yeah AMD has always had the best looking girls

18:43 <xcamel> that would be here:

18:43 <xcamel>

18:43 <Romulus> <> (at

18:46 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:47 <Soul_keeper> there is a real woman like that, but she's only a tri-core

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19:21 * CoderForLife gets body-slammed by the Sandman

19:21 <CoderForLife> gn

19:22 <xcamel> laterz

19:22 <xcamel> hey... don't forget BSG...

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19:42 <xcamel> &wx 12074

19:42 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 43.5F / 6.4C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with rain showers this evening...then partly cloudy with a slight chance of rain or snow showers after midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Blustery with lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph (2 more messages)

19:43 <xcamel> &more

19:43 <Romulus> xcamel: with gusts up to 40 mph...becoming northwest around 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of light snow after midnight. Cooler with lows around 13. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow (1 more message)

19:43 <xcamel> &more

19:43 <Romulus> xcamel: 40 percent.; Areal Flood Advisory, Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 1:00 AM EST on February 28, 2009;

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20:22 <Soul_keeper> i wonder if there is a boinc project that can utilize the military grade hardware encryption of the via nano ...

20:25 <xcamel> or runs on an icecream shaver

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20:59 <xcamel> laterz..

20:59 <efc> night x

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21:28 <zombie67> i'm getting kernel panic when trying to install on an Atom box.

21:28 <zombie67> ubuntu 64 bit, that is

21:29 <zombie67> can someone please suggest an alternative flavor of 64 bit linux

21:33 <PovAddict> debian; although it's likely you get the same problem (since ubuntu is based on debian)

21:34 <zombie67> i am going to try opensuse

21:36 <zombie67> that's not debian, right?

21:38 <PovAddict> "The SUSE Linux distribution was originally a German translation of Slackware Linux"

21:38 <PovAddict> from 1992

21:38 <zombie67> cool

21:38 <PovAddict> Debian was first released the following year

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22:15 <jasong> Pardon me for being dumb, but when is Windows 7 supposed to start being sold?

22:15 <jasong> nm, found it

22:16 <jasong> Easier than I thought it would be, sorry bout that

22:16 * jasong has no faith in his Googling skills

22:49 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news February 27, 2009

23:31 * wdsmia slaps the room

23:32 <zombie67> odd, ubuntu 32 bit installed just fine, no keneral panics

23:32 <zombie67> I will install, and then upgrade it to 64 bit

23:32 <PovAddict> I don't think that upgrade is possible

23:33 <PovAddict> and I think you'd get the panics while upgrading anyway, or once you're done with installation and boot the 64-bit for the first time

23:34 <wdsmia> you know for such a great OS you sure spend a lot of time screwing with it lol

23:34 <MTughan> Is it possible the 64-bit download was corrupted, or the burn was corrupted?

23:35 <zombie67> maybe it was corrupted.  I think maybe it was because I was using a USB external DVD drive

23:36 <zombie67> I re-copied the optical disk

23:36 <zombie67> I think you CAN upgrade the kernel

23:36 <MTughan> You should be able to get a hash for the ISO from Ubuntu.

23:36 <PovAddict> if you're running linux right now... you can md5sum /dev/cdrom

23:37 <zombie67> I already have 32 bit installed, just finished all the updates

23:37 <zombie67> now I am going to try updating th kernel with package manager

23:38 <PovAddict> "Switching bitness after installing an operating system shouldn't even be attempted."

23:39 <PovAddict> just saw it on a thread on ubuntu forum

23:41 <zombie67> fine

23:41 <zombie67> I am doing the mdsum now

23:42 <zombie67> md5sum

23:42 <zombie67> how long should it take to run?

23:42 <PovAddict> well, it has to read your disc from beginning to end

23:43 <PovAddict> depends on the disc you used and your drive speed :)

23:43 <zombie67> while that is happening, where do I find the correct answer?

23:43 <PovAddict> (rewritable discs are quite slow for example)

23:44 <PovAddict> so what was it? Intrepid 64-bit desktop disc?

23:44 <zombie67> okay, I have the result

23:44 <zombie67> but what do I compare it to?

23:46 <zombie67> "hash" is what I should be searching for?

23:46 <PovAddict>

23:46 <Romulus> <> (at

23:47 <zombie67> crap, they don't match

23:47 <PovAddict> do you still have the .iso file?

23:47 <zombie67> so that was the problem?

23:47 <zombie67> yeah

23:47 <PovAddict> do md5sum on it

23:48 <PovAddict> if it matches the MD5SUMS file, then the file is OK, the burning failed

23:48 <PovAddict> if it matches the /dev/cdrom hash, then the download is corrupted, and the corrupted file was correctly burned :)

23:48 <PovAddict> if it doesn't match either, then both steps failed, and you should consider this an unlucky day

23:48 <zombie67> md5sum command not found

23:49 <PovAddict> wtf, you just used it

23:49 <zombie67> no, the one I just used was on the linux box

23:49 <zombie67> the ISO is on my mac

23:50 <PovAddict> try 'md5'

23:50 <MTughan> Yes, it's labelled md5 on the Mac, and SHA1 is "openssl sha1 <filename>". I don't know why.

23:50 <zombie67> ah

23:50 <zombie67> thats the tric

23:50 <zombie67> trick

23:51 <PovAddict> openssl has lots of hashing algorithms which it needs for encryption

23:51 <PovAddict> so it also provides the plain hashing through the command line

23:51 <MTughan> Yeah, but can't Linux use sha1sum?

23:51 <PovAddict> yes, there is sha1sum

23:51 <zombie67> okay, the ISO matches the number on the URL you provided

23:51 <MTughan> Mac doesn't have that.

23:51 <zombie67> both are f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b

23:51 <MTughan> zombie67: Good, means the ISO is fine, the burning failed.

23:52 <PovAddict> zombie67: failed burn; good news, you don't have to download again

23:52 <zombie67> first burn, I did it to a CD, second to a DVD

23:52 <zombie67> both did not work for install

23:52 <MTughan> Can you set a slower burning speed?

23:52 <zombie67> I have never had a CD or DVD burn fail

23:52 <MTughan> I presume you're using Disk Utility?

23:52 <PovAddict> the initial boot screen on the CD has a built-in checksum verify option

23:53 <zombie67> i am trying to bood from the dvd again

23:56 <zombie67> where do you dee the built-in checksum??

23:57 <MTughan> I think he meant the menu where it has "Install" and "Memtest" or whatever options it has.

23:57 <zombie67> maybe "check cd for defects"?

23:57 <PovAddict> yes

23:57 <MTughan> That's the one.

23:57 <zombie67> running

23:58 <zombie67> "error reading boot CD

23:58 <zombie67> "\

23:59 <zombie67> I will try burning AGAIN

23:59 <zombie67> brb

23:59 <MTughan> VMs are nice... Download the ISO, and as long as it's valid, you're good to go.

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