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00:12 <jasong> I've always been curious about making things with "exotic" materials. Like how much improvement could someone get if their coolers were made out of industrial diamonds?
00:15 <jasong> Can irc bans be given time limits?
00:15 <jasong> I mean, is it something that's done frequently?
00:16 <jasong> I was banned from a chatroom, then, without anyone talking to me, I'm suddenly able to get on 5 days later
00:19 <MTughan> jasong: Channel bans are normally permanent, but they can be released very quickly, and there's usually a limit on how many bans a channel can have. So once that limit is filled, older bans will be released.
00:19 <MTughan> Were you banned, and then kicked right afterwards?
00:23 <jasong> Well, I think it was a combination kickban, but five days later I'm suddenly able to get on and nobody seems to be mentioning anything about it
00:23 <jasong> I really like the channel, so I'm not going to mention it there, but I'm a bit confused as to what happened
00:23 <MTughan> Usually, when an op wants to kick someone from a channel, but not have them come back, he/she will apply a ban, kick the person, then after a couple seconds, release the ban.
00:24 <MTughan> That prevents any auto-rejoin scripts from bringing the person right back into the channel. wdsmia has a macro'd command for an automatic two second ban, and a kick.
00:24 <jasong> Well, I know the ban was in place a couple days ago, so it lasted at least 72 hours
00:25 <MTughan> Wow, that's a long ban then...
00:25 <jasong> I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but from a technical standpoint I'm a bit confused
00:26 <MTughan> You could always ask politely why you were banned.
00:26 <jasong> I know why I was banned
00:26 <MTughan> Any decent op will tell you why, and then you can avoid doing it.
00:27 <jasong> They claimed I made a homophobic slur. I really like being a member of the website, so I only complained a couple times.
00:28 <jasong> I honestly thought it was a permanent ban, I was going to drop the issue so as not to piss anyone off
00:28 <MTughan> What did you saw?
00:28 <MTughan> say*
00:29 <jasong> I got agitated by the Milk Grammy acceptance speech, so I freaked and posted a message about how Christians don't hate gays, they just think it's a really harmful choice
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00:29 <jasong> I shouldn't have posted it at all, but I don't think it was homophobic
00:29 <MTughan> No, I agree... I don't see how it was homophobic.
00:30 <MTughan> Because you're not saying being gay is a harmful choice, just that people think it is.
00:30 <MTughan> Although I suppose it's a delicate issue.
00:30 <jasong> we're getting a major cultural divide in this country(USA), and it keeps getting bigger
00:31 <MTughan> Gah, freezing rain outside...
00:31 <jasong> There are things going on in other states that are scaring the crap out of Bible Belt people, and vice-versa
00:32 <MTughan> The problem is that people don't accept someone very different from them. Many people just think it's their way, or you f*** off.
00:32 <MTughan> But people have different points of view, and you have to respect that.
00:32 <MTughan> Note that I'm not implicating you specifically. :P
00:34 <jasong> I know, although I'm sure that a lot of people would simply label me a bigot so they don't have to think of me as a human being
00:34 <MTughan> A bigot is still a human...
00:35 <jasong> Yeah, true
00:36 <jasong> When one person bases their values on the idea that a guy was nailed to a tree, died, and came back to life, there tends to be friction with people who don't agree.
00:36 <MTughan> True.
00:37 <jasong> and, of course, there a corollaries to Islam
00:38 <jasong> Suicide bombers seem sub-human to a lot of people, but it makes perfect sense to millions of people
00:38 <MTughan> Yeah, I know. I can't imagine myself doing that, but I'm sure I've been raised differently than many Islamics.
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00:40 <jasong> Holy wars are nasty things, when it has to do with property or traditions, it tends to be okay to lose, but Holy Wars can be fought until the last soldier.
00:42 <jasong> The really hard thing is that the Crusades are directly comparable to what's going on now. War doesn't seem stupid until a few years or decades later
00:43 <MTughan> Like the Iraq war?
00:44 <jasong> oh, yeah
00:44 <jasong> The Iraq war should never have happened
00:44 <jasong> I was one of the losers who wanted it, but it was a really bad idea
00:45 <jasong> And the Saudis are the real problem from what I hear, but they have all that oil
00:46 <jasong> I think global warming is a sham to get people to go green
00:46 <MTughan> And the oil companies resist any change they can't profit from.
00:46 <MTughan> No, I don't think it's a sham, despite the cold weather we've been having.
00:46 <jasong> Well, I've heard the oil companies are majorly investing in green technologies, so somebody's planning stuff we don't know about
00:47 <MTughan> You mean hydrogen?
00:47 <jasong> Not necessarily hydrogen, I'm sure there's billions of research going on to explore options
00:47 <jasong> Personally, I like the idea of cars being powered with compressed air
00:48 <MTughan> One change I'm talking about... Saturn developed a practical electric car in the early 90's. What happened to it?
00:48 <jasong> It was too expensive
00:48 <MTughan> People were willing to pay for it.
00:48 <jasong> true
00:49 <jasong> One thing I'm excited about is carbon nanotubes, if we can icrease production about a 1000-fold, we can use them to make super-capacitor batteries
00:50 <jasong> They're discovering ways to use carbon nanotubes just about every week that goes by
00:51 <jasong> And they're constantly tweaking the production method to make it faster or more efficient
00:51 <jasong> At the moment, I think they're up to about 50 grams an hour for high quality nanotubes
00:51 <MTughan> I believe they're also talking about using carbon nanotubes for small scale water cooling for processors.
00:52 <jasong> Yeah, but at the moment it's just going to scientists. They need to increase production a huge amount before they'd be used to cool stuff
00:52 <jasong> The horrible thing is how do you dispose of carbon nanotubes?
00:53 <jasong> The pollution problem is going to be horrendous in a few decades
00:53 <jasong> It would be like if you could make cars out of diamonds. But what would you do when it came time to dispose of the car?
01:06 <jasong> Hey, what's a good place to calculate the wattage of a system?
01:07 <MTughan> There's no standard way to measure it, as the components are all different, and it depends on system load.
01:07 <jasong> I'm trying to figure out if I should keep my quad-core and get a new computer, or ditch the guts and replace it with something new
01:07 <MTughan> You can always try and find something like a Kill-A-Watt to measure the usage.
01:08 <jasong> It's a Q6600 cpu, I'm not sure if it's still a good idea, in terms of wattage to crunching
01:08 <MTughan> What stepping?
01:09 <jasong> Good question, I don't know much about that kind of stuff
01:09 <MTughan> Do you have CPU-Z?
01:09 <jasong> ah, good idea, give me a few minutes
01:10 <MTughan> Which CPU-Z has a field called Stepping, that's not really the CPU stepping. It's actually the Revision field you're looking for.
01:19 <jasong> Yeah, cpu-z is an executable, and wine doesn't seem to be a package for some reason. I'll need to fight with it at some point, but not right now
01:20 <MTughan> Oh, you're using Linux?
01:20 <jasong> yeah
01:20 <jasong> I couldn't find a linux cpu-z
01:20 <MTughan> "cat /proc/cpuinfo" might tell you.
01:20 <MTughan> It'll be either B3 or G0.
01:20 <jasong> lol, I'd forgotten about that
01:22 <jasong> I'm not sure how to read it, it just seems to be giving me numbers in all the categories
01:24 <MTughan> Hmm, so does mine, at least in the virtual machine...
01:27 <MTughan> jasong: Is the cpu_family 6, and the model 15?
01:29 <jasong> yes
01:29 <MTughan> And what is the stepping? 7 or 11?
01:29 <jasong> 7
01:30 <MTughan> Then you have the older B3 stepping processor.
01:30 <MTughan> I have the G0.
01:30 <MTughan> The B3's were slightly worse overclockers, but they did have a higher TDP than the G0 stepping did.
01:30 <MTughan> 105W compared to 95W.
01:31 <jasong> hmmm, pretty close
01:31 <jasong> so it's worthwhile to keep it running?
01:31 <jasong> We only pay about 6.25 cents a kilowatt
01:32 <MTughan> You could probably get the same level of performance with a slightly lower wattage from a comparable 45nm processor, assuming you haven't overclocked it.
01:32 <MTughan> What do you use it for anyway? BOINC or other stuff?
01:32 <jasong> Almost 100% boinc
01:33 <jasong> I'll stop the crunching when I play runescape, but otherwise it's full boinc
01:33 <MTughan> Then while you'd get lower power usage from a dual core, that's probably not what you want. :P
01:33 <jasong> lol, true
01:34 <MTughan> Here's a list of the 45nm quads on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343%2050001157%201051707842%201050727216%201051122421&name=1333MHz
01:36 <MTughan> I believe the Q6600 quads are usually compared to the Q9300 or Q9400 Yorkfields.
01:36 <jasong> thanks for the link
01:36 <jasong> I'm gonna go get something to eat, then I'll check the link
01:36 <MTughan> K.
01:37 <MTughan> While the Yorkfield quad-cores aren't the newest, they're relatively cheap, and since you have a Q6600 already, it means that you probably already have a motherboard that can support it.
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01:57 <MTughan> jasong: Hmm, maybe I shouldn't say they use less power... I think they do, but the TDP is the same as my Q6600.
01:58 <MTughan> So if you're looking for power consumption... What video card do you have?
01:58 <MTughan> Also, what power supply? PSU efficiency can really start to make a hit on power consumption at high levels.
02:02 <MTughan> Well, I'll give you my numbers, maybe you can do something with them...
02:03 <MTughan> I've got a Q6600 G0, with a Radeon HD4870 and a PC Power and Cooling 750W.
02:04 <MTughan> I believe with the CPU around 2.8GHz, I saw 400W from the wall with both the CPU and GPU under full load: CPU from Prime95, and the GPU from ATITool.
02:04 <MTughan> That number will be a little bit higher now as I'm running 3.26GHz on the CPU, but maybe 20W higher overall.
02:05 <MTughan> Since your CPU is similar, take off probably about 40W or so, and then try to adapt for your graphics card.
02:05 <MTughan> My PSU gets around low- to mid-80% efficiency around that wattage area if I remember. You'll have to look up yours to figure out how efficient it is.
02:06 <MTughan> But I have to be off to bed... Hope that helps.
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03:16 <ELGono> ELGono has contributed 1.79 quintillion floating-point operations to the following scientific research projects:
03:17 <ELGono> wow that 1,79 * 10^30
03:17 <ELGono> not counting the 20 years seti classic cpu time hehe
03:29 <efc> &wx 31088
03:29 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds up to 10 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. Highs around 80. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph.;
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04:15 <efc> When is CFL making his Final Curtain Call ?
04:19 <CoderForLife> I'll have to check with him and see
04:21 <CoderForLife> moo efc
05:01 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 57.3°F / 14.1°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Today - Partly sunny until late afternoon...then becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)
05:02 <CoderForLife> &more
05:02 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;
05:21 * CoderForLife goes to get ready for w@#%
05:21 <CoderForLife> Friiiiiiday
05:25 <efc> bleh
05:31 <CoderForLife> please register all anti-Friday comments here -->
05:32 <efc> did I mention my nomination for the Detouring Award ?
05:32 <efc> The lowest award in computing
05:34 <efc> It was for my invention of a revolutionary new programming language concept
05:34 <efc> The Excrement operator, notated as 8-
05:35 <efc> If not executed frequently it must be noted as 8=
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06:11 <KathrynM> well that was interesting.
06:19 <CoderForLife> depends on your definition, I guess
06:20 <CoderForLife> I found it rather disinteresting
06:22 * CoderForLife climbs up on his mighty steed named Accord
06:23 <CoderForLife> I must be away to w@#%
06:23 <CoderForLife> laterz
06:33 <hawmps> 'mornin
06:35 <PovAddict> ditto
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06:36 <PovAddict> i mean, ditto what CFL said
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06:58 <Soul_keeper> mmmm
07:33 <Fwerp> poo
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08:30 <CoderForLife> thx PovAdct_w
08:31 <PovAdct_w> thx?
08:31 <Romulus> I guess thx is just doing the earlier one, PovAdct_w
08:31 <CoderForLife> for the ditto
08:31 <PovAdct_w> "I must be away to w@#%" :P
08:31 <CoderForLife> me 2
08:32 <CoderForLife> ah
08:32 <hawmps> ditto
08:32 <CoderForLife> not the comment b4 that
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10:32 <Fwerp> boop
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10:48 <hawmps> Report: 7 undocumented Chinese immigrants arrested at border
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10:53 <CoderForLife> they can't be coming for the jobs
10:59 <hawmps> just an odd headline
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11:17 <CoderForLife> mm-hmm
11:18 <CoderForLife> on that topic, my Chinese sourced FTP attacks have slacked off recently
11:19 * CoderForLife swings the sledgehammer and reduces another boulder to sub-boulders
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11:59 <PovAdct_w> CoderForLife: boulders?
11:59 <PovAdct_w> aim your sledgehammer at http://download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/rationalsdp
12:02 * PovAdct_w thinks about leaving w$%& early-ish
12:03 <PovAdct_w> tgif
12:06 * PovAdct_w goes do some reboots
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12:06 <Fwerp> ooo new 6400 dr2 4 me lappy is here
12:13 <MTughan> Figures... NASA's site looks horried with no JS. Idiots...
12:19 <wdsmia_w> Its too nice outside... think I will take the rest of the day off
12:20 <MTughan> Overcast here... Had some freezing rain last night.
12:20 <wdsmia_w> cya
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12:21 <MTughan> Guess he took the rest of the day off.
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12:48 <jackygrahamez> alright, here me out. I don't have an ideal solution yet for a screensaver, but I have a screensaver binary that I can activate using a CreateProcess call within the wrapper...is that a very bad idea?
12:49 <jackygrahamez> it terminates with any mouse movement
12:49 <jackygrahamez> don't know how much resources it takes away from the analysis though
12:52 <MTughan> Holy crap... http://en.expreview.com/2009/03/06/cebit-2009-scythe-showes-four-massive-coolers.html
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14:03 <wdsmia> re-hi
14:04 <ELGono> lo doug
14:04 <ELGono> just ran out of seti cuda units :/
14:05 * wdsmia needs to find a good op'ed seti cuda app
14:06 <wdsmia> *lo Gono
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14:32 <Fwerp> buahaha
14:33 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
14:39 <wdsmia> bbiab
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14:40 <Tank_Master> yoyo!
14:41 <BadBarbarian> howdy tank
14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Tank_Master
14:51 <Tank_Master> sorry
14:51 <Tank_Master> was away :)
15:01 <PovAddict> SO much for going home early
15:01 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: the wrapper doesn't start the screensaver
15:02 <jackygrahamez> Hmm how about Integrating code for starting screensavers into the wapper?
15:03 <PovAddict> the wrapper has nothing to do with graphics
15:03 <PovAddict> the science app has nothing to do with graphics; except it provides information for the screensaver to display
15:03 <PovAddict> the *client* starts the screensaver
15:03 <PovAddict> you can't (shouldn't) make the wrapper start the screensaver (when would it start it?)
15:08 <jackygrahamez> uc2 with graphics creates a screensaver, can we use that same code as part of a wrapper?
15:09 <Tank_Master> hey der jacky
15:09 <jackygrahamez> hey tanky
15:09 <jackygrahamez> :-)
15:09 <Tank_Master> :)
15:09 <PovAddict> the screensaver is a *separate* application
15:09 <PovAddict> and having a wrapper or not is irrelevant
15:10 <jackygrahamez> so does anyone running wrappers have custom screen savers?
15:10 <PovAddict> huh
15:10 <PovAddict> I just said it's irrelevant
15:11 <PovAddict> screensavers are made the same way whether you use a wrapper or not
15:11 <PovAddict> it's a separate independent program
15:12 <jackygrahamez> Then how do I get there? I'm trying to figure out based on what I know. I'm looking at the code from the uc2...
15:12 <PovAddict> you should be looking at uc2_graphics
15:12 <jackygrahamez> exactly
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15:13 <jackygrahamez> So can that code be inserted into the wrapper as part of my screensaver
15:13 <PovAddict> you
15:13 <jackygrahamez> ?
15:13 <PovAddict> dont
15:13 <PovAddict> need
15:13 <PovAddict> to
15:13 <PovAddict> touch
15:13 <PovAddict> the
15:13 <PovAddict> wrapper
15:13 <PovAddict> you compile the graphics app separately, send it with the logical name "graphics_app", and it works
15:14 <PovAddict> you don't need to do anything with the science app code, or the wrapper
15:14 <jackygrahamez> alas I don't have the code for this screensaver...how else can I trigger it to run or is it impossible???
15:14 <MTughan> Soul_keeper, Fwerp: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=af1839e97f5ef7b51d2ed3d2e211bcd1
15:15 <PovAddict> the screensaver app has only one requirement
15:15 <PovAddict> it must open a closeable *window* with the graphics; unless --fullscreen is passed in the command line, then it should show graphics fullscreen
15:15 <PovAddict> that is all
15:15 <PovAddict> it doesn't need any BOINC API function call or anything
15:16 <jackygrahamez> then I can insert a line in the job file? ...but that might be a problem...I think that will tie up the other tasks
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15:17 <jackygrahamez> oh i get it now
15:18 <jackygrahamez> you don't need the job file reference, if you rename it graphics_app
15:18 <PovAddict> the job file is a wrapper feature
15:18 <PovAddict> so it's irrelevant for the graphics
15:18 <jackygrahamez> ok I thought you had to write the graphics into the main app
15:19 <PovAddict> [18:14] <PovAddict> you don't need to do anything with the science app code, or the wrapper
15:20 <Tank_Master> so how does one wrap the scienc code around the graphic? :P
15:20 <jackygrahamez> the app I have only works on windows...sorry apple guys
15:21 <jackygrahamez> or linux for that
15:21 <Tank_Master> ehh, they are the minority anyway, dont care for them
15:21 <jackygrahamez> most linux folk don't even care about screensavers
15:21 <MTughan> The graphics app and the science app are in no way related... Unless you want a way to share data between the two, they don't interact and are made completely separatly.
15:22 <MTughan> separately*
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15:22 <MTughan> I'm off to lunch... bbl
15:23 <jackygrahamez> Well this is a work in progress. I can at least experiment with a screensaver until I figure out how to read the molecular trajectories
15:23 <zombie_67> NQueens is back up
15:24 <PovAddict> with work?
15:24 <zombie_67> yep
15:24 <PovAddict> !
15:24 <zombie_67> MT?
15:24 <Romulus> It has been said that MT is right, zombie_67
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15:52 <Fwerp> waffles?
15:53 <PovAddict> where?
15:56 <MTughan> zombie_67: Yeah?
15:58 <Soul_keeper> ok
15:58 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: You saw the link?
16:01 <zombie_67> MT: http://nqueens.ing.udec.cl/forum_thread.php?id=95#553
16:01 <Soul_keeper> yeah i bookmarked it
16:02 <Soul_keeper> i ran my first stream example last night :)
16:02 <Soul_keeper> fully functional stream computing setup, just need a linux client
16:02 <MTughan> Yeah, I saw the link zombie_67. You're wanting me to compile the app?
16:02 <Soul_keeper> sadly i might have to port it myself to get one
16:03 <Soul_keeper> i could port it, i'd just need to know more about the project, not even sure what mw does
16:04 <Soul_keeper> i guess it does math on some kind of packet of sky coordinates/readings ...
16:05 <MTughan> BTW, the compiler of the optimized Linux apps says that he just uses the standard source.
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16:05 <MTughan> I would presume the compiler of the GPU app customized the code, but I haven't seen the code for that.
16:06 <Soul_keeper> yeah just a matter of throwing in the stream headers, and switching around a few types
16:06 <Soul_keeper> i can't find the GPU app source
16:06 <zombie_67> MT: yes please. but no need yet. He doesn't even have the new windows version published yet.
16:06 <Soul_keeper> the guy seems to hide it
16:06 <Soul_keeper> probably have to e-mail him for it
16:07 <MTughan> Ask him for it then. MW is released under the GPL, and because he's distributing the binaries, he's legally obligated to provide the source on request.
16:07 <Soul_keeper> then he might get affended if someone is trying to hiijack his project
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16:07 <Soul_keeper> looks like crunch3r has just gotten into the source
16:08 <Soul_keeper> he's the one that does the optimized seti
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16:08 <Soul_keeper> he did one of the cuda ports for seti
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16:09 <Soul_keeper> he's got all the different optimized cpu compiles on his fileserver, not gpu stuff yet tho
16:12 <Soul_keeper> 31 source files it appears
16:13 <MTughan> For MW?
16:13 <MTughan> I count 29.
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16:18 <Soul_keeper> 4 .txt so 27 ...
16:18 <Soul_keeper> 5*
16:21 <MTughan> util folder.
16:21 <MTughan> Check the*
16:21 <MTughan> I don't know if that's actually used, but there are source files there.
16:25 <CoderForLife> home again
16:27 <xcamel> 'lo
16:32 <wdsmia> finaly got pan and tilt working
16:33 <jackygrahamez> ah i got around to testing ngmx
16:33 <jackygrahamez> really crappy graphics but maybe I can work with it
16:34 <jackygrahamez> later folks!
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16:42 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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16:46 <PovAddict> hate w$%&? could be worse -> http://eugeneciurana.com/galereya/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Humor&id=cd32d2e5ef
16:51 <MTughan> I'll basically be off for the night now... We're using my monitor for a movie, and it's the only display I have for this computer. Bye,
17:13 <CoderForLife> back
17:14 <CoderForLife> mac and cheese comfort food - yum
17:15 <Soul_keeper> hmmm pthreads isn't as powerfull as i thought
17:15 <Soul_keeper> i can't just call 3 different functions and have them all run forever
17:15 <Soul_keeper> it sits and waits for the first one to finish
17:17 <Soul_keeper> it can't replace fork(); in that respect
17:23 <CoderForLife> that doesn't sound right Soul_keeper
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17:28 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: you're doing it wrong then
17:28 <PovAddict> you can create three threads and pass those three functions as their entry points
17:28 <Soul_keeper> whatever
17:29 <Soul_keeper> pthread_attr_init(&attr);
17:29 <Soul_keeper> pthread_attr_setdetachstate(&attr, PTHREAD_CREATE_DETACHED);
17:29 <Soul_keeper> rc = pthread_create(1, NULL, cputenminute(cores, cpufrequency, cpuarray1, minutearray, minutearray2, walltime), (void *)1);
17:30 <PovAddict> what's the third parameter of pthread_create?
17:30 <Soul_keeper> some junk
17:30 <PovAddict> I bet the documentation doesn't say "some junk"
17:30 <Soul_keeper> that's a function that's being called
17:31 <Soul_keeper> that's the actual thread itself
17:31 <PovAddict> you're calling cputenminute(cores, cpufrequency, cpuarray1, minutearray, minutearray2, walltime) and, when it finishes, passing the result to pthread_create
17:31 <Soul_keeper> it should never finish
17:31 <Soul_keeper> it's got a continuous loop
17:32 <Soul_keeper> i need to issue 3 instances just like that in a row
17:32 <PovAddict> read what I just said... the way you're calling it, the thread will be created right after the function finishes
17:32 <XioNYC> &wx LGA
17:32 <Soul_keeper> suck my nuts you dipshit,
17:32 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
17:32 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 53°F / 12°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy with a chance of drizzle. Patchy fog this evening...then areas of fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Clouds and (1 more message)
17:32 <XioNYC> &more
17:32 <Romulus> XioNYC: patchy fog in the morning...then partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain. Patchy fog. Lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;
17:32 <PovAddict> and will take the return value of your function as a pointer to the code you want to run in the thread
17:32 <Soul_keeper> i'll figure it out on my own i don't need you're supremacy attitude
17:32 <PovAddict> if you'll figure it out on your own, why do you complain about it here?
17:33 <wdsmia> rofl
17:33 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, same reason you cry about shit all day
17:33 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
17:33 <PovAddict> supremacy? I was trying to help, but clearly you don't want to be helped
17:33 <wdsmia> thats directed at both of you :P
17:33 <Soul_keeper> we're in the same hole here buddy
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17:33 <PovAddict> I'm not in a hole
17:34 <Soul_keeper> well don't think you're better than anyone here.
17:34 <PovAddict> I don't think I'm better than anyone here
17:34 <Soul_keeper> is that what you tell yourself ?
17:34 <PovAddict> I do think I understand how function pointers work and you don't, and I was trying to help you with it
17:34 <PovAddict> but then you go "suck my nuts you dipsh!t"
17:34 <wdsmia> ok thats enought children
17:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia
17:34 <PovAddict> don't worry I can just /ignore
17:35 <Soul_keeper> fine
17:36 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia
17:37 * Soul_keeper adds himself to the "do not call list"
17:37 <Soul_keeper> i've always had to figure things out on my own, it's definately worth it that way.
17:39 <wdsmia> beat you head aginst the wall enough times the info stays... know the feeling
17:39 <Tank_Master> funny
17:40 <Tank_Master> when I beat my head againce the wall enough times I pass out and forget it all
17:40 <wdsmia> lol
17:41 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master in the head with a large wall
17:42 <CoderForLife> did someone mention a wall?
17:42 <wdsmia> *lo Don
17:43 <CoderForLife> hello Doug
17:43 <CoderForLife> I look away for a second, and seems like trouble erupts
17:44 <Soul_keeper> you're a good guy CoderForLife :)
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17:45 <CoderForLife> heh
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17:47 <Soul_keeper> i think it angers some people that i try to learn things, it's weird
17:47 <CoderForLife> If someone is in the market for a large wall, I believe I can help
17:48 <wdsmia> you pay the shipping?
17:48 <PovAddict> i think it angers you that people try to teach you things, it's weirder
17:48 * CoderForLife goes back to paying the bills, and dougs and nics and sterlings
17:49 <CoderForLife> oh, you want the wall shipped to you....
17:49 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, thought you put me on ignore already ? decided not to pout in the corner ?
17:49 <CoderForLife> back off Soul_keeper
17:50 <Soul_keeper> he addressed me, so i addressed him back.
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17:51 <CoderForLife> cease and desist, please
17:51 <Soul_keeper> ok since you ask nicely :)
17:51 <CoderForLife> thx
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17:56 <BadBarbarian> 'lo all
17:56 <CoderForLife> wb BadBarbarian
17:56 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
17:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 60.6°F / 15.9°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. A slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday - (1 more message)
17:56 <CoderForLife> &more
17:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. South winds 15 to 20 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Unseasonably warm with lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening. Chance of rain 40 percent.;
17:57 <CoderForLife> check out Saturday =)
17:57 <BadBarbarian> 'lo CFL
17:57 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany
17:57 <CoderForLife> should get to 74F
17:57 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 36Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 11:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:41 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:39 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:41 ° F.; Snow. Low:28 ° F.;
17:57 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86303
17:57 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 50.7°F / 10.4°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Breezy. Partly cloudy. A slight chance of snow showers in the late evening and overnight. No snow accumulation. Lows 24 to 32. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 10 percent.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. (1 more message)
17:57 <BadBarbarian> &more
17:57 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Isolated snow and rain showers in the morning. No snow accumulation. Snow level 5500 feet. Highs 46 to 52. Light winds becoming west around 15 mph in the late morning and afternoon. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 18 to 28. West winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light.;
17:58 <BadBarbarian> got a bunch of seti ap wu's to crunch lol
17:59 <ELGono> lucky u ;)
17:59 <ELGono> missing seti enhanced wu
17:59 <BadBarbarian> lol 20.000 in pending never had that much before
17:59 <ELGono> just getting astropulse
17:59 <ELGono> cuda is missing work
18:00 <BadBarbarian> me too
18:00 <BadBarbarian> what optimizer are you using ?
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18:01 <ELGono> v10 pack
18:01 <BadBarbarian> me too
18:02 <BadBarbarian> my 2.4 quad is crunching them in about 15 hrs
18:02 <ELGono> workz really well so far
18:02 <BadBarbarian> yes is has
18:03 <BadBarbarian> windows or linux ?
18:03 <ELGono> win mac and linux joinded today
18:03 <BadBarbarian> i am running xp x64
18:03 <ELGono> mac still missing cuda support
18:04 <BadBarbarian> my cuda card is an 8600 GT
18:05 <ELGono> need around 18h with 2core 2.4GHz
18:05 <ELGono> yep in here, too
18:05 <BadBarbarian> it crunches a wb in 50 min
18:05 <BadBarbarian> 32 or 64
18:05 <Fwerp> 11 machines today
18:05 <Fwerp> :D
18:06 <ELGono> 32bit
18:06 <BadBarbarian> :-d
18:06 <ELGono> that hurts
18:06 <ELGono> ;.-p
18:06 <BadBarbarian> the 64 really helps even with seti
18:06 <ELGono> might worth a try :)
18:07 <BadBarbarian> running the v10 64bit too
18:07 <Fwerp> i cant wait to try 64 but i have not purchased any keys
18:07 <BadBarbarian> are you in the states ?
18:07 <Fwerp> ye
18:08 <Fwerp> one of my remote machines is on 64 bit but i have not sat down at it yet..
18:08 <BadBarbarian> i got a place that sells x64 sp1 student version for 60.00 if you want the link
18:08 <ELGono> laterz dudes, off to bed
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18:08 <BadBarbarian> nite
18:08 <Fwerp> nice
18:09 <BadBarbarian> let me find the link brb
18:12 <xcamel> re-back
18:13 <BadBarbarian> found it
18:13 <BadBarbarian> 'lo xcamel
18:13 <Fwerp> nice
18:13 <BadBarbarian> $64.00 for xp x64 sp2
18:14 <Fwerp> I AINT GOT TEH 4 DOLLA
18:14 <Fwerp> sweet
18:14 <xcamel> Hiya BB
18:14 <BadBarbarian> lol
18:14 <Fwerp> hmmm prolly get it cheaper in bulk
18:15 <BadBarbarian> i have a friend who has the same setup i do except hes 32bit
18:15 <BadBarbarian> i am 30% faster on seti
18:16 <Fwerp> i gots a bunch of dual core cpu's hooked up ..... i cant wait to see the numbers monday
18:17 <Fwerp> it got so hot in the shop today from the systems i had to turn the a/c on
18:17 <Soul_keeper> "The pthread_join() function shall suspend execution of the calling thread until the target thread terminates, unless the target thread has already terminated." can't be done
18:17 <BadBarbarian> hee hee good work
18:17 <Fwerp> had my servers cooling hoses in a bucker of ice and water
18:17 <Fwerp> bucket*
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18:22 <xcamel> muh buket?
18:24 <PovAddict> bukkit
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18:34 <xcamel> muh fishz too
18:36 <Tank_Master> it taks a long time to move 850GB at 30MB/s
18:37 <PovAddict> &google calc 850GB / 30MB/s
18:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: (850 GB) / (30 (MB / s)) = 8.05925926 hours
18:37 <PovAddict> yes it does o_O
18:37 <PovAddict> at least it's not an internet download
18:37 <PovAddict> &google calc 850GB / 3 Mbps
18:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: (850 gigabytes) / (3 Mbps) = 26.8641975 days
18:37 <Tank_Master> true
18:37 <Fwerp> &google calc 850GB / 15 Mbps
18:37 <Tank_Master> &google calc 850GB / 20 Mbps
18:37 <Romulus> Fwerp: (850 gigabytes) / (15 Mbps) = 5.37283951 days
18:37 <Romulus> Tank_Master: (850 gigabytes) / (20 Mbps) = 4.02962963 days
18:38 <Tank_Master> 4 days for me
18:38 <Fwerp> 5 :)
18:38 <PovAddict> your ISP will throttle halfway
18:38 <Tank_Master> which actually is feasable
18:38 <Tank_Master> mine wont
18:38 <Fwerp> ?
18:38 <Fwerp> mine hits 1.5MB's
18:38 <Fwerp> 1.5MB/s
18:39 <Tank_Master> I havent seen fios trottel before
18:39 <Tank_Master> I get 2.5MB/s off fios
18:39 * CoderForLife enjoys a chocolate-covered devils food donut
18:39 <Fwerp> my 1.5 is 2 buildings away from the cable co.... :D
18:40 <PovAddict> &google calc 850GB / 2.5MB/s
18:40 <Romulus> PovAddict: (850 GB) / (2.5 (MB / s)) = 4.02962963 days
18:40 <Tank_Master> see? :P
18:41 <Tank_Master> lol, same exact time
18:42 <Fwerp> lol...
18:42 <Fwerp> i has bucket
18:42 <Fwerp> somehow i got a box of alcohol annonymous bibles and i used some of them to hold the hoses in the bucket
18:43 <Fwerp> could feel the heat from the server on my face
18:43 <Rookie_69> Alcoholics Unanimous!
18:43 <Tank_Master> AA is for quiters
18:45 <Fwerp> yap
18:45 <xcamel> I resemble that remark..
18:45 <PovAddict> quitters? I've yet to start
18:45 <Tank_Master> lol
18:45 <CoderForLife> ditto Pov
18:45 <Fwerp> used teh power of jesus to cool a system i guess
18:45 <Fwerp> yap
18:47 <xcamel> alchanomics aholymous
18:49 <Tank_Master> what the
18:49 <CoderForLife> honestly ossifer
18:49 <Tank_Master> I got orbit work this week?
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18:51 <CoderForLife> some LHC WUs came through yesterday I saw
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18:51 <xcamel> just a few..
18:51 <CoderForLife> yeah, I think I did 2
18:51 <Fwerp> i dunno how to read it at all... i just run the software...
18:52 <Tank_Master> looks like I idnt get any lhc work
18:53 <xcamel> Fiddle/Burn == NERObama..
18:54 <Fwerp> Pending credit: 1,340.62
18:54 <CoderForLife> he really put one over on folks who didn't pay attention
18:54 <Fwerp> :D
18:56 <xcamel> folks who didn't pay attention are going to pay, and their kids are going to pay, and their grandkids are going to pay...
18:57 <Fwerp> lol
18:57 <Fwerp> agree'd
18:57 <CoderForLife> and folks who did - ditto
18:57 <Fwerp> ur racist if you dont vote obama though
18:58 <Tank_Master> wouldnt that make you racest if you do?
18:58 <xcamel> ur 'dumbist' if you did
18:58 <Fwerp> paradox
18:58 <Fwerp> i do not condone wut he do
18:58 <Fwerp> but he do it'
18:59 <Fwerp> got an employee trying to install boinc on an old imac
19:00 <xcamel> used to sun seti classic on 2 of them..
19:01 <Fwerp> lol
19:01 <Fwerp> it wont accept two 256 133's
19:02 <Fwerp> so he has to run it on 256mb.... got him a nice hdd though
19:02 <Fwerp> got me a ton of dual cores up for the weekend
19:04 <Tank_Master> :)
19:04 <xcamel> my wife's macbook had one of the exploding ibm hdd's
19:04 <Tank_Master> lol
19:05 <Rookie_69> I didn't vote for King Obama... Didn't even see him on the ballot.
19:05 <xcamel> your only choice is Bob or Doug McKenzie
19:05 <Rookie_69> ... pretty sure I voted for a Lizard though.
19:06 <xcamel> white north, eh?
19:06 <wdsmia> hoser
19:06 <Rookie_69> Now, If Getty Lee ran...
19:07 <CoderForLife> Geddy Lee is running in 2112
19:07 <Rookie_69> I thot my speeling looked rong...
19:07 <xcamel> cruo candidate
19:08 <xcamel> er cryo even
19:08 <Fwerp> Geddy Lee > Jesus > K.West
19:10 <Rookie_69> Geddy still looks like he already failed out of the cryogenics program.
19:11 <Fwerp> geddy needs a donut
19:11 <CoderForLife> A friend of mine happened to talk to Geddy at an airport bar
19:11 <Fwerp> !
19:12 <CoderForLife> They were just casually chatting and the subject turned to rock music
19:12 <CoderForLife> Geddy asked if my friend had a favorite group
19:12 <CoderForLife> My friend said he really liked Rush
19:13 <CoderForLife> Geddy said that's a good thing - don;t you know who you're talking to?
19:14 <xcamel> I think Doug has a similar ZZ Top story...
19:14 <CoderForLife> then my friend recognized him
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19:15 <CoderForLife> I had a conversation with a guy near Boston, I could have sworn I was talking to Sylvester Stallone
19:15 <CoderForLife> looked and talked like him
19:16 <wdsmia> Lenard skinner
19:16 <Fwerp> went to summer camp with gloria estefablah's (cuban lady) son
19:16 <Fwerp> the singer
19:16 <CoderForLife> he was an equipment operator on the Big Dig
19:16 <Fwerp> dunno how to speel it
19:16 <Rookie_69> Lynyrd Skynyrd, not ZZ Top.
19:17 <wdsmia> we speak typo
19:17 <xcamel> ah.. that's right
19:17 <xcamel> Eric Bloom and I have been fiends now for 30 years (hard to believe)
19:18 <xcamel> talk about a long strange trip...
19:19 <CoderForLife> BOC
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19:21 <Fwerp> how many computers u guys got up
19:21 <Fwerp> on boinc
19:21 <wdsmia> way 2 many
19:21 <CoderForLife> I've lost count =)
19:22 <Fwerp> i hit 11 today, day 3 or 4
19:22 <Fwerp> into it..
19:22 <wdsmia> turned off 5 today
19:23 <CoderForLife> with the electric bill I just paid, I'm not far behind
19:23 <Fwerp> get u solar panels at cost....
19:23 <xcamel> ditto on too many
19:23 <Rookie_69> I got five up and two of them are set to no work and running out soon.
19:23 <Fwerp> philips units for like 750....
19:23 <wdsmia> turned off the old p4's not worth it anymore
19:24 <CoderForLife> yeah - those were my first to go
19:24 <Fwerp> i got a 1.4 athlon pwning a 3.02 p4
19:24 <Tank_Master> send them to me and ill take them off your hands
19:24 <CoderForLife> I may turn them back on for my personal project
19:25 <wdsmia> personal project? how many $ does it take to build a wall?
19:26 <Fwerp> lolol
19:26 <CoderForLife> those are different topics
19:26 <Rookie_69> All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
19:26 <CoderForLife> the wall - $78,000
19:26 <Romulus> Title: linuxsociety private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at linuxsociety.pastebin.com)
19:26 <Fwerp> !!
19:26 <CoderForLife> the BOINC project - priceless
19:27 <Fwerp> im working on it...
19:28 <CoderForLife> I'm a bit too frazzled to think Soul_keeper - sorry
19:28 <Fwerp> just spent 900 on 5 systems for seti
19:28 <Fwerp> no hdd's just ramdrive...
19:28 <CoderForLife> let me know if you're still having problems tomorrow
19:28 <Rookie_69> If your house wants to be a part of the Little Miami river, who are you to stop it?
19:28 <CoderForLife> gn folks
19:28 <Fwerp> gn
19:28 <Fwerp> little miami
19:28 <wdsmia> cya
19:29 <Fwerp> i used to liv on bird road...
19:29 <Rookie_69> NN.
19:29 <Fwerp> and flagler
19:29 <Fwerp> houses in coral gables
19:29 <Fwerp> 1 in naples
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19:30 <xcamel> My aunt used to live on red road..
19:30 <xcamel> right behind the exotic bird park
19:31 * wdsmia has the exotic bird park in the living room
19:31 <Rookie_69> Quantity: one.
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19:34 <Fwerp> baccon
19:34 <Rookie_69> Mmm... Bacon!
19:35 <xcamel> got thumbs?
19:36 <Fwerp> synergy is a blast at work
19:37 <Fwerp> if u havent seen it
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19:41 <Rookie_69> I don't know why I have a TV Guide crossword puzzle book in the bathroom... I don't watch enough TV to know many of the answers.
19:41 <wdsmia> no speaker for your e-books
19:42 <Tank_Master> I dont spend enough time ther to even read the questions
19:44 <Fwerp> i take the laptop to the can
19:44 <Fwerp> and pass out some times early in the morning
19:44 <Fwerp> like wake up... grab laptop... passout on toilet... amazing
19:49 <wdsmia> amazing or sad ? im not sure
19:50 <Rookie_69> If I had a box that was humidity-resistant, it'd probably be set up in the can.
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19:56 <Fwerp> mcjagger
20:05 <Rookie_69> The Stones do Rap?..
20:18 <Fwerp> uh
20:19 <Fwerp> mcjagermistrb8er
20:19 <Rookie_69> ... Mick Jagger meets MC Hammer...
20:21 <xcamel> Mick Jammer
20:21 <xcamel> ?
20:36 <Fwerp> hum i blew a dual core p3 today
20:36 <Fwerp> err
20:36 <Fwerp> dual p3 rack mount
20:36 <Fwerp> lul
20:37 <Fwerp> bad wireless card...
20:40 <Rookie_69> I've not yet found a really good wireless card...
20:41 <Rookie_69> ... although it seems I might have one somewhere that doesn't give me any grief.
20:42 <Rookie_69> ... but when it doesn't complain, it doesn't get noticed.
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21:08 <Fwerp> im out of switchs n stuff
21:08 <Fwerp> just wasted a fvs 318 on this...
21:08 <Fwerp> wireless = option
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21:20 <Rookie_69> NN.
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21:22 <jasong> Went to see the first half-hour of The Watchmen tonight. That's one of the most God-awful cheesefests I've ever seen in my life
21:23 <jasong> The dialogue was so horrible, I convinced my friend to leave early
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22:21 <Fwerp> we said ney, we are but men... ROCK
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22:31 <Fwerp> q6700 just hit 82c and shutdown
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22:42 <jasong> Controllers get their first opportunity to launch between 0349 and 0352 GMT (2249 and 2252 EST) on 7 March.
22:42 <jasong> Read that in a news article just now, weird timing, huh?
22:43 <jasong> They're going to be looking for earth-like planets around other stars
22:44 <Fwerp> ya its amazing
22:44 <Fwerp> lookin for the shadows
22:47 <jasong> lol, this satellite will literally have people jumping at shadows
22:49 <Fwerp> 2012 wooo~~~
22:50 <Fwerp> upgraded from 3 gig pc2 5400 to pc2 6400 4gb in my lappy today, its avg went up!
22:50 <Fwerp> +2.02
22:51 <jasong> The real fun, in my mind, is the fusion research. What kind of stuff would people come up with if electricity was non-polluting and 1/10th as expensive?
22:52 <Fwerp> :)
22:52 <jasong> Yeah, it's always fun when your RAC goes up
22:52 <Fwerp> how about silicon gates that dont get hot
22:52 * PovAddict doesn't look at his credits anymore
22:53 <jasong> Well, even if you don't worry about your credits, more points generally means more work is being done. Not always, but usually
22:54 <Fwerp> the pending ones got me smiling i cant wait till monday
22:54 <Fwerp> gunna see a uge change
22:54 <Fwerp> huge*
22:54 <Fwerp> need to turn down the water cooled systems they are taking a beating
22:55 <Fwerp> very exciting time for me i just joined n all
22:55 <Fwerp> it'll lack luster soon enough
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23:40 <PovAddict> oooo
23:40 <Fwerp> hehehe this one is funner
23:40 <Romulus> Title: Research Experts Use PS3 Farm to Hack Web Browser CA Certificate (at www.efluxmedia.com)
23:41 <Fwerp> theres some crazy images of ps3 clusters out there
23:41 <Soul_keeper> what's all this noise ?!?!
23:42 <PovAddict> I see no pictures Fwerp
23:43 <Soul_keeper> i can't afford 200 PS3's ...
23:45 <Soul_keeper> maybe you guys can tho :)
23:46 <Fwerp> omg omg omg
23:46 <Fwerp> this is so cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
23:47 <Fwerp> GigaAccel 180” is an accelerator board with the latest Cell/B.E. microprocessor on board. The astonishing 180 GFLOPS performance by the Cell/B.E. chip is utilized by integrating it into PC workstations with PCI Express slots
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23:48 <Fwerp> these boards are made for what were doing
23:48 <Fwerp> its freaking cool...
23:57 <Fwerp> oo weak gpu's can do like 500