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04:10 <CoderForLife> &more
04:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;
04:13 <XioNYC> I *so* can't wait for these Lattice WUs to finish... it's been five days already and I can't do any updates until they're done >_<
04:15 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
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04:24 <XioNYC> &ping
04:24 <Romulus> pong
04:24 <XioNYC> Thanks.
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06:30 <hawmps> 'lo
06:56 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
06:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.1°F / -3.3°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1029.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Warmer. High in the lower 40s. Southwest wind near 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the mid 20s. South wind around 5 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. High in the lower 50s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.;
07:39 <hawmps> 14F here
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09:14 <ball> I have boinc installed on a Windows machine and it seems to keep restarting the same work unit
09:15 <ball> By now it should have returned some results, but I just saw it jump from 14% to 0%
09:15 <ball> (World Community Grid application)
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09:17 <ball> hello jackygrahamez
09:18 <jackygrahamez> hi ball
09:19 <jackygrahamez> one of my volunteers got a floating point exception
09:19 <ball> That's a shame.
09:19 <jackygrahamez> I was trying to build gromacs statically
09:20 <ball> Why statically?
09:20 <jackygrahamez> I decided to also enable double precision
09:20 <jackygrahamez> when you compile an include all the libraries in the build
09:21 <jackygrahamez> instead of having them referenced
09:21 <jackygrahamez> some people have different libraries on their machines so in the interest in making application universally compatible, building static is the way to go
09:22 <jackygrahamez> drawback is this makes the applications larger
09:22 * ball nods
09:22 <ball> can't you make your application check which versions of the libraries are installed?
09:22 <jackygrahamez> that's tricky
09:23 <ball> wouldn't using the incumbent libraries improve the chances of using one that's optimised for their system?
09:24 <jackygrahamez> BOINC uses platforms to seperate opperating systems, it does not have a way to classify what libraries people have
09:24 <ball> (e.g. 64-bit, support for special hardware etc.)
09:24 <jackygrahamez> os and hardware
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09:25 <ball> hello Aruzo
09:25 <ball> jackygrahamez: right, but I'm talking about libraries.
09:25 <jackygrahamez> one person may have 64-bit fedora, another 64-bit ubuntu, centos, redhat, slackware, debian etc etc
09:26 * ball nods
09:26 <ball> I suppose that's one of the drawbacks of Linux, it's a bit random.
09:26 <ball> What are you using to compile your application? gcc?
09:26 <jackygrahamez> so I'm having a problem with the floating points right now...looking for help on it
09:27 <jackygrahamez> scientific applications, I'm using gcc
09:27 <Aruzo> ball, ello
09:27 <jackygrahamez> i follow a configure script
09:28 <jackygrahamez> I'm not a good programmer, I'm pretty much just integrating existing science apps
09:30 <ball> See, I'm thinking that if a person has special accelerator hardware (GPUs, coprocessors or whatever), that you might need to use the incumbent libraries to take advantage of that.
09:30 <jackygrahamez> GPUs is a challenge for me, I don't even have hardware to test with
09:31 <ball> I heard talk yesterday that boinc can treat them as discrete processors, with no CPU to babysit them. I haven't tested that though.
09:33 <ball> If so, that's very cool. If not, I'd expect them to be handled via a special library.
09:34 <ball> Gah! SeaMonkey just blew up.
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09:56 <ball> hello ELGono
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11:22 <ball> hello Sonar_Guy
11:22 <Sonar_Guy> Hola ball
11:23 <ball> Anyone happen to know what kind of GPU boinc is able to use?
11:24 <MTughan> Right now, and CUDA capable Nvidia GPU.
11:24 <MTughan> any*
11:24 * ball writes that down
11:24 <MTughan> List of them here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html
11:26 <ball> Thanks, that's really helpful!
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11:42 <ball> hello Aeternus
11:42 <Aeternus> hello :-)
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11:50 <Rookie_w> Hope the boss doesn't look over my shoulder.
11:50 <MTughan> lol
11:53 <Rookie_w> Oh well... back to drudging. L8er.
11:53 <MTughan> Bye.
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12:04 <ball> That was short.
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12:09 <ball> For boinc purposes is GeForce, Tesla or Quadro preferred, or does it make more sense to copmare on a chip-by-chip basis?
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12:26 <ball> If a graphics card is listed on that CUDA site and has >= 256M RAM, is it safe to assume boinc can make use of it?
12:26 <MTughan> "If your GPU is listed [on Nvidia's site] and has at least 256MB of RAM, it's compatible."
12:27 <Romulus> Title: Run SETI@home on your NVIDIA GPU (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
12:27 <MTughan> However, if you're going to run CUDA for BOINC, I'd recommend running GPUGRID instead of SETI@Home.
12:27 <MTughan> From what I've read, their app is more optimized, and they give better credits.
12:28 <Romulus> Title: GPUGRID (at www.gpugrid.net)
12:28 <ball> Thanks
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12:34 <ball> I have to be using nVidia's binary driver, right?
12:34 <MTughan> Yes.
12:34 <ball> Hmm... okay.
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12:40 <ball> Okay, I just set up a Team at GPUGRID for my college, so I suppose I'd best build a machine that can run this stuff!
12:40 <MTughan> :P
12:41 <ball> Looks like I'll need something with a PCIe x16 slot
12:41 <MTughan> The reason I was "I've read that" is because I don't have a computer capable of running CUDA apps, at least not yet.
12:41 <MTughan> The only computer I have that has a Nvidia graphics card is a MacBook, so it's running OS X. Which is unsupported right now.
12:42 <ball> I quite fancy an aluminium G4 powerbook, but I hate to think how much that would cost me.
12:42 <ball> ...perhaps even more than the MacBook
12:42 <MTughan> That's quite an old machine at this point too...
12:42 * ball nods
12:42 <MTughan> You like the PowerPC architecture?
12:42 <ball> I think they have Firewire though, unlike the MacBook
12:42 <Sonar_Guy> MTughan: mine will run it just need to load the nvidia binary drivers
12:43 <Sonar_Guy> currently using some packaged drivers
12:43 <MTughan> Yeah, the latest ones don't have Firewire...
12:43 <ball> Anyone here happen to know something about Quadro or Tesla cards?
12:43 <ball> I see some Quadro cards for AGP
12:43 <MTughan> So while what Jobs said may be true (all the latest video cameras use USB 2), that doesn't help us with older cameras that use Firewire.
12:44 <MTughan> At least my desktop has a full complement of FW ports.
12:44 <MTughan> And no, I don't.
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12:48 <ball> Is it best to use GeForce cards with nForce mainboards?
12:48 <MTughan> I don't think it matters if you use a Nvidia, Intel, or even an AMD chipset.
12:49 <ball> Ah, okay.
12:50 <ball> oooh... Tesla cards give me a GPU without the video output! :-)
12:51 <MTughan> Won't work with the current implementation of CUDA then I think.
12:51 <MTughan> I believe CUDA requires at least a Windows desktop to run.
12:52 <ball> Ah. Can't buy that anyway (looking at the price)
12:52 <ball> wait, I can't do this on Linux?
12:53 <MTughan> You should be able to.
12:53 <MTughan> Linux is supported, but OS X isn't.
12:55 <ball> Oh, okay. I was confused by what you said about a Windows desktop.
12:57 <MTughan> Sorry. Needs a desktop on it. For Linux, anything but a command line should suffice.
12:57 <MTughan> KDE, GNOME, Xfce, and any others.
12:58 <ball> Ah okay. That wouldn't matter anyway though, since on unix and Linux it's possible to run VNCserver, so if I were rich enough to fill a box with Tessla cards and somehow it had no graphics hardware, that should be a non-issue.
12:58 <ball> vncserver or just plain old X
12:59 <MTughan> Sounds right.
13:14 <ball> I'm unreasonably energised at the thought of building something like this :-)
13:14 <MTughan> I'm dusting out my desktop. :P
13:15 <ball> I have some machines awaiting that treatment
13:18 <MTughan> This machine has needed it for a while.
13:18 <MTughan> Not that I don't dust it regularly, I do.
13:18 <MTughan> Just that this university room is dustier than most.
13:20 <ball> MTughan: Ottawa?
13:20 <MTughan> Did a geolocation on my IP addy?
13:21 <ball> No, didn't need to.
13:21 <MTughan> ?
13:21 <ball> Okay, we need to write a boinc/gpugrid application to predict winning Timmie's cups
13:21 <MTughan> How did you figure I'm in Ottawa?
13:22 <MTughan> Also, I don't drink coffee, Tim's or otherwise.
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13:22 <MTughan> Ah yeah, the desktop has a reverse DNS address... Mac doesn't for some reason.
13:25 <MTughan> There goes my first bottle of compressed air... Luckily I bought a second.
13:26 <ball> Sadly mine runs on CO2
13:26 <ball> ...should probably upgrade.
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13:27 <ball> Hello [B^S]rene_mayer
13:27 <MTughan> Apparently mine contains difluroethane, CAS# 75-37-6.
13:31 <ball> oooh.
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13:34 <ball> Hmm... struggling to find an appropriate mainboard.
13:45 <ball> Ah, found a couple.
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13:50 <ball> Okay, this is me off to vacuum the car out.
13:50 <ball> Bye!
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13:50 <MTughan> Bye.
13:51 <MTughan> Man, Pov didn't stick around for long...
13:54 * FreeLarry remembers using trifloroethane as hand cleaner in print shop - as well as to clean various electrical componets in service
13:55 * FreeLarry remembers using trifloroethane as hand cleaner and parts cleaner in service
13:55 <FreeLarry> dang guess i should make sure i'm at bottom of screen before typing - PovAddict is at w/*-
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13:56 <FreeLarry> or getting ready to head home
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13:57 * FreeLarry is happy - finally completed a gpugrid wu and got credit
13:57 <FreeLarry> discovered only 2 / 16 for processor power on vid card tho so wont try that again
13:58 <FreeLarry> definitly not fast enough
13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
13:58 <FreeLarry> moin yoyo[RKN]
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14:05 <MTughan> 'lo Doug
14:05 <wdsmia_w> *lo MT
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14:22 <MTughan> Well, I figured out why my CD drives weren't working... Seems after I did a rewire of my computer, I plugged the IDE cable upside-down into the MB. :/
14:25 <wdsmia_w> lol that would do it
14:26 <MTughan> Anyway, quick look at the manual fixed it up, and they're showing again.
14:27 <wdsmia_w> just turn the cd's over then it should work :P
14:27 <MTughan> Heh.
14:27 <MTughan> That wouldn't work if I had a Lightscribe drive. :P
14:28 <wdsmia_w> isnt that called lableing your data?
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15:25 <efc> Anyone else get a lot of spam from the "honor role marketing group" ?
15:29 <Tank_Master> not in my hotmail
15:29 <Tank_Master> I just get online grgrees and body part enhancments
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15:35 <Fwerp> for too, he blow his brains in
15:36 <efc> Enhancements? My credit card is ready!
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15:36 <fwerp2> buh
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15:36 <Fwerp> unstable ...
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15:51 <Fwerp> MTughan
15:52 <Fwerp> turned sli off on the 9600 machine.. nice improvement
15:54 <Tank_Master> duh
15:54 <Tank_Master> should be about 2x improuvement
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16:03 <MTughan_> &ping
16:03 <Romulus> pong
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16:03 <MTughan_> That was f***ing annoying...
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16:04 <efc> Turned SLI off?
16:04 <MTughan_> Me? No. I don't own a desktop Nvidia card.
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16:05 <MTughan> Networking issues. Cables getting caught everywhere, and then once I get everything up, I hit my head on the bottom of my desk really hard, and it won't get a DHCP address.
16:05 <MTughan> But everything's where it should be now.
16:05 <MTughan> So I'm just nursing my head and ego now.
16:08 <Tank_Master> MT!
16:08 <MTughan> 'lo TM
16:09 <Tank_Master> that is just so wrong...
16:09 <MTughan> lol
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16:16 <ball> I just had another go at loading boinc on Ubuntu Server. The manager fires up in idiot mode (non-Advanced view) and says "Error, Retrieving current status"
16:17 <ball> Is there a config file somewhere that I can delete to make it imagine this is the first time I've run it (to restore it to its default behaviour)?
16:22 <Tank_Master> PovAddict
16:29 <xcamel> re-hi
16:30 <Tank_Master> re-wb
16:30 <Tank_Master> http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=578
16:30 <ball> hello xcamel, Tank_Master
16:30 <Tank_Master> i7 laptop with triple channle DDR3 SIDIMM, dual prapgics, 3 HDs....
16:34 <jasong> Linux boinc is a nightmare, I think it's behavior is connected with the usage of a random number generator :/
16:34 <jasong> jk
16:36 <ball> What's odd is that it appears to work on a Xubuntu machine, but not on Ubuntu Server for some reason.
16:36 <ball> I'm not sure what's missing.
16:37 <ball> Oh dear, now Apple Update wants to reboot this iBook
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16:40 <ball> Back shortly
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17:15 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:17 <ball> hello wdsmia
17:23 <efc> Moo
17:26 <ball> yes, quite.
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17:39 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 45.8°F / 7.7°C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the mid 20s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. High in the lower 50s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 30s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.;
17:44 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
17:45 <wdsmia> *lo Jay TGIF
17:45 <ball> 1;2c&wx 99723
17:45 <ball> &wx 99723
17:45 <Romulus> ball: Temperature: -21°F / -29.4°C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog and flurries in the afternoon. Highs 15 to 20 below zero. East winds 15 to 25 mph. Wind chill to 50 below.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog. Lows 20 to 25 below zero. East winds 15 to 20 mph diminishing in (1 more message)
17:45 <ball> Chilly up there.
17:46 <wdsmia> &zipinfo 99723
17:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: City: Barrow; State: AK; County: North Slope; Area Code: 907; Time Zone: PST-1; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 71.2947 (North); Longitude: 156.7784 (West)
17:47 <xcamel> tgif indeed..
17:47 <ball> -29C is officially too cold.
17:48 <Tank_Master> bah
17:48 <Tank_Master> that a nice temp to run the comp outside
17:49 <Tank_Master> think of the o/c you can reach on air copoling
17:49 * ball grins
17:49 <ball> Nice spot for a datacentre then :-)
17:49 <PovAddict> w$%& = hell
17:49 <Tank_Master> howdy pov
17:50 <ball> If I lived up there, I could actually try the Athlon 64 that's been sitting on my shelf for a year.
17:50 <Tank_Master> :)
17:51 * ball sighs
17:51 <ball> ...and now it's Socke 939 and I can't find a mainboard for it.
17:55 <Tank_Master> haha
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17:56 <ball> Got a Socket A chip here somewhere too.
17:56 <ball> brb.
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18:01 <ball> Thanks Romulus ;-)
18:07 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
18:07 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:46 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:51 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:51 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:37 ° F.;
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18:13 <Fwerp> TRY THE AMBROSIA
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18:21 <CoderForLife> &more
18:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 30s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
18:21 <wdsmia> *lo Don
18:22 <CoderForLife> hello Doug =)
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18:23 <CoderForLife> looks like decorum is being maintained
18:24 <CoderForLife> by lack of traffic
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18:25 <Tank_Master> :)
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18:36 <PovAddict> work sucked today (and yesterday)
18:36 <PovAddict> domain controller doesn't boot, corrupted registry
18:37 <CoderForLife> un-good
18:38 <CoderForLife> do you replicate to another controller
18:39 <CoderForLife> just having just one domain controller is begging for trouble
18:39 <PovAddict> single server, no backups in appropriate format either
18:39 <CoderForLife> ubscrewed
18:39 <PovAddict> as far as we know, only the registry is corrupted, all other files are fine, including the AD database
18:40 <PovAddict> which is pretty irrelevant, because the only way to backup and restore seems to be to use the backup utility... from a *working* system
18:40 <CoderForLife> does the system boot?
18:41 <PovAddict> the system doesn't boot, we failed (er, gave up) at recovering the registry
18:41 <CoderForLife> that sounds pretty bad
18:42 <CoderForLife> any similar hardware/systems?
18:42 <PovAddict> so we copied the whole C: partition somewhere else (at a low-enough level, using dd from Linux liveCD), formatted C: and reinstalled OS
18:42 <PovAddict> it shouldn't be so hard to take the active-directory-related files from the backup partition (the non-booting system partition) and put them into the just-installed OS
18:42 <PovAddict> but it is
18:44 <PovAddict> I did an experiment of such manual file copying (with an AD tree with two users and one computer) on a virtual machine, and it seemed to work
18:45 <PovAddict> but doing it on the real server with the real AD tree made it fail to boot (lsass.exe said "network password incorrect", wtf?)
18:45 <PovAddict> of course that boot failure is easy to fix (put the "empty" DB files, from before the manual file copy, back into place)
18:45 <CoderForLife> I'm sorry - you used the phrases "shouldn't be hard" and "Active Directory" in the same context - I'm not understanding
18:45 <PovAddict> our other option is putting all files/groups/computers/etc back into the AD by hand
18:45 <PovAddict> it's not too many
18:46 <PovAddict> problem is SIDs will be different
18:46 <PovAddict> I thought that would make a mess with file permissions
18:46 <CoderForLife> I'd probably do that, then set up another DC to replicate to
18:46 <CoderForLife> get that Global Catalog shared around
18:47 <PovAddict> someone on ##windows told me it will also make a mess with Exchange, and agreed with me that the 10th floor window was inviting
18:47 <PovAddict> they also told me this was a messy-enough problem that I should probably call Microsoft for support
18:48 <CoderForLife> oh, you've got Exchange on there too?
18:48 <PovAddict> active directory, exchange, dhcp, dns...
18:48 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa - very bad
18:48 <PovAddict> and data (just a plain old file share)
18:48 <PovAddict> about Microsoft tech support...
18:48 <CoderForLife> they should have been replicating
18:49 <PovAddict> ...yeah right... there are no legal Windows copies and the server is no exception :-/
18:49 <CoderForLife> fscked
18:49 <PovAddict> the problem seems to have been a misconfigured UPS
18:49 <PovAddict> we used to have no UPS
18:49 <CoderForLife> misconfigured management
18:50 <PovAddict> every power outage (more frequent than they should be) broke something
18:50 <PovAddict> exchange DB got corrupted once (took a few hours to get it back up), IIS metabase got corrupted multiple times (had to restore backup), DHCP database (solved by recreating the DHCP service)...
18:51 <PovAddict> there was an non-working UPS around... they took it for repair (just needed a new battery)
18:51 <PovAddict> since then, there were two outages, the second was fatal
18:51 <CoderForLife> foreshadows of corruption yet to come
18:52 <PovAddict> I think this was the problem:
18:52 <PovAddict> without the UPS, a power outage *might* possibly happen while some process was writing something, and get that data corrupted
18:53 <CoderForLife> maybe, just maybe
18:53 <PovAddict> with the misconfigured UPS, a power outage made the OS cleanly shut down... then the UPS cut power in the middle of the shutdown process, during which the system was *surely* in the middle of writing something
18:53 * PovAddict emails thedailywtf.com
18:53 <wdsmia> power by Murphy
18:54 <xcamel> thedailyFSCKd.com
18:54 * PovAddict notes CFL is now speechless
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18:57 <fwerp2> zomg fuzzy math
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18:57 <Fwerp> MTughan
18:57 <Fwerp> i turned off sli on the 9600 machine ...remembered today... and it's doin the whole cuda thing
18:57 <Fwerp> BUT
18:58 <Fwerp> im no longer recieving the credit calculated
18:58 <Fwerp> fuzzy math?
18:58 <Fwerp> &google fuzzy math
18:58 <Romulus> Fwerp: Search took 0.19 seconds: Fuzzy mathematics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Mathematics>; Fuzzy Math | Flash: <http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/fuzzymath>; How Not to Teach Math by Matthew Clavel: <http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon_3_7_03mc.html>; Bush vs. Gore: Debate Aftermath; ' Fuzzy Math ' - The New York Times: (3 more messages)
19:00 * CoderForLife is usually rendered speechless when paying the bills
19:01 <xcamel> hmmm.. "U.S. Jet Shoots Down Iranian Drone Over Iraq"
19:01 <CoderForLife> hmm
19:01 <CoderForLife> looking
19:05 <efc> Iran's drone is a Cessna with a blow-up doll piloting?
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19:09 <xcamel> the blow-up pilot from Airplane
19:20 <Fwerp> lul
19:20 <Fwerp> kite pulled by r/c helicopter fallowed by rented u.s hummer?
19:21 <Fwerp> cessna... 100k, kite+helicopter+hummer= priceless
19:21 * PovAddict wonders wtf to do on Monday with teh server
19:22 <CoderForLife> I hope the U.S. jet was named the Thermopylae - to add insult to injury
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19:26 <karpi> hello.. ive just upgrade boinc, but it refuse start anymore..
19:27 <karpi> sched_setscheduler: Invalid argument
19:27 <karpi> failed to set pid 0's policy
19:27 <Tank_Master> what versuion are you runing now?
19:27 <Tank_Master> and what OS?
19:27 <karpi> gentoo
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19:27 <Tank_Master> what version of boinc?
19:27 <karpi> 6.4.5-r1
19:28 <Rookie_69> I stopped in at the boat club after work this evening and beer got bought and still beer got bought and even more beer got bought and I still have the $20 that I started with and The van got too drunk to drive and is spending the night down at the boat club and apparently, I am doing at least two One Hundred Mile races this summer!
19:28 <PovAddict> I'm not aware of BOINC using such a sched_thing, karpi
19:28 <PovAddict> ask the Gentoo packagers
19:28 <karpi> oki, thx..
19:30 <Fwerp> I FOTTED
19:31 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
19:34 <Fwerp> talked my mother through ipconfig
19:34 <Fwerp> lol...
19:47 <karpi> oki, its ok now. ,}
19:47 <Tank_Master> sweet
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19:55 <CoderForLife> looks like the museum online order form is working OK under IE6 now
19:56 <CoderForLife> bwowser phun
19:56 <Fwerp> FUGWAH
19:56 * Fwerp slaps CoderForLife around a bit with a large trout
19:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CoderForLife
19:56 <Fwerp> lolol
19:57 * CoderForLife swells to twice his size
19:57 * Rookie_69 wonders why CFL wants to order a museum...
19:57 <CoderForLife> I'm giving one away actually
19:57 <CoderForLife> any takers?
19:57 <efc> I can order the King Tut Tissue Dispenser I've always wanted?
19:57 <Fwerp> museum?
19:57 <Fwerp> d00der
19:57 <Romulus> Title: Welcome to the Tri-State Warbird Museum Web Site! (at www.tri-statewarbirdmuseum.org)
19:58 <Fwerp> &google 3d satellite tracking application
19:58 <Romulus> Fwerp: Search took 0.17 seconds: NASA - Science@NASA Satellite Tracking: <http://science.nasa.gov/realtime/>; NASA - Science@NASA J-Track Astronomical Satellites: <http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/Jtrack/spacecraft.html>; Satellite : Software: Satellite tracking: <http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Satellite_tracking/>; Open Directory - Recreation: Radio: Amateur: Satellite Tracking: (3 more messages)
19:58 <Rookie_69> Got a Fairey Firefly? I got a taker on some parts.
19:58 <CoderForLife> they just got a Fw-190
19:59 <CoderForLife> I made a commitment to have the online gift shop done by Monday
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19:59 <Fwerp> j track is neat
20:00 <rodrigoflores> Hi. Somebody know where I find a good documentation about using R with Boinc?
20:01 <CoderForLife> R, as in statistical analysis?
20:01 <rodrigoflores> CoderForLife, yes
20:02 <CoderForLife> you're wanting to distribute R work using BOINC?
20:02 <rodrigoflores> CoderForLife, yes
20:02 * CoderForLife notes he's doing very well so far...
20:05 <CoderForLife> I don't know myself - you've checked the r-project.org wiki?
20:05 <rodrigoflores> CoderForLife, I will look there. I was searching in R packages documentation
20:06 <CoderForLife> I would think it would be running on CONDOR, or other more dedicated grids
20:07 <CoderForLife> several Google refs on "R statistical computing CONDOR"
20:08 <rodrigoflores> Yeah. I know (I'm planning about doing this soon), but my professor asked me to solutions using Boinc instead of CONDOR
20:08 <CoderForLife> one reference says "aal the clients have to install R before BOINC"
20:09 <CoderForLife> er all
20:09 <CoderForLife> R would probably not a good candidate for volunteer distributed computing
20:10 <CoderForLife> Hmm "R lacks from a checkpointing facility"
20:11 <PovAddict> is R an imperative(-ish) language?
20:11 <CoderForLife> as are most statistical packages, such as SAS
20:12 <PovAddict> seems to be
20:12 <CoderForLife> SPSS
20:12 <CoderForLife> etc
20:12 <PovAddict> so to analyze a big block of data you'd use a loop?
20:12 <CoderForLife> here's one reference I was quoting from on running R on BOINC - needed to virtualize on VMWare www.ibergrid.eu/2008/presentations/Dia%2014/6a_paper1.pdf
20:13 <PovAddict> how is output created?
20:13 <PovAddict> stdout? output file?
20:14 <CoderForLife> in my experience, datasets in and out
20:14 <CoderForLife> databases, proprietary formats, probably XML now
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20:16 <CoderForLife> the PDF gives a good into to problems with R and BOINC
20:17 <CoderForLife> HTH rodrigoflores
20:19 <rodrigoflores> I saw that. But I didn't understand. Does it use some R library?
20:19 <PovAddict> rodrigoflores: no, it uses an OS-level virtual machine
20:19 <PovAddict> looks like giant overkill :)
20:19 <CoderForLife> they created some wrappers to allow BOINC to run R
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20:20 <CoderForLife> they "extended" BOINC
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20:21 <CoderForLife> hardly public-style BOINC computing
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20:22 * PovAddict would help but he doesn't know R
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20:23 <PovAddict> I wrote some Code to make Python BOINC apps
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20:23 <rodrigoflores> Well. Thanks I will try to set up a Boinc server and an application that uses Boinc with R.
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20:23 <PovAddict> basically, calls boinc_init, embeds the python interpreter, extends it with a 'boinc' module with a method to report progress, runs the user script, and calls boinc_finish
20:24 <PovAddict> I might be able to do a similar program for R, but if I can't code R, I will have trouble getting in its internals :)
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20:27 <Romulus> Title: The R Project for Statistical Computing (at www.r-project.org)
20:27 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Fuzzy Math (at www.youtube.com)
20:29 <PovAddict> eh, can't be bothered to *learn a programming language* right now :P
20:36 <CoderForLife> gn folks
20:37 <Rookie_69> L8ere, Coder.
20:37 <Rookie_69> ?
20:37 <Rookie_69> L8er.
20:38 * CoderForLife waves a warbird web site order form
20:41 <xcamel> laterz
20:55 <Rookie_69> Does Fuzzy Math equate to Fuzzy Grooming? I've just been called Grizzly Adams... Again.
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21:15 <wdsmia> &wx 82215
21:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 15 to 20. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 55 to 60. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 25 to 30. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;
21:16 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw
21:16 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 11.3Â°F / -11.5Â°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 10:15 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Becoming cloudy periods this evening. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph). Low -10C(14F) with temperature rising to -3C(26F) by morning.; Saturday - Cloudy. 60 percent chance of (1 more message)
21:25 <Rookie_69> Me gotta go beddy...
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23:35 <Soul_keeper> http://www.ihasaids.com/upload/data/1234908717.gif
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23:43 <PovAddict> haha
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23:52 <Romulus> Title: Peacekeeper - The Browser Benchmark (at service.futuremark.com)
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