IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-03-16

00:00 <ball> ...waiting for this laptop to get back down to 40C before I fire up boinc again

00:00 <vtold> i've just downloaded boinc manager for linux and i can not minimalize it to tray

00:01 <ball> vtold: just close it

00:01 <ball> ...the client will probably continue to run anyway

00:01 <vtold> but it is invisible in tray :(

00:01 <ball> the tray is probably a conceit of your desktop environment

00:02 <vtold> are there any alternatives boinc programms?

00:02 <ball> I don't know.

00:02 <ball> ...but I doubt it.

00:02 <jasong> synecdoche is a port of boinc

00:03 <jasong> #synecdoche , but it's a work in progress

00:03 <vtold> I see

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02:34 <Soul_keeper> i got a bad gtx260

02:34 <Soul_keeper> i will have to return it

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04:41 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 48.7F / 9.3C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers...mainly this afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest this afternoon. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Becoming mostly clear. (1 more message)

04:41 <CoderForLife> &more

04:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Lows in the lower 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 70. Northwest winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon.;

04:45 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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04:48 <Soul_keeper> hello

04:48 <Soul_keeper> geeze nearly 2AM

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05:20 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/defective1.jpg   seems my video card likes to hard lock the system when playing videos, and does this now   http://sterlingdesktops.com/defective1.jpg

05:22 <CoderForLife> bad video card

05:23 <Soul_keeper> i have to take it back ...

05:23 <Soul_keeper> :(

05:23 <Soul_keeper> it's still turning out seti cuda wu's tho ...

05:24 <Soul_keeper> underclocked 60+ MHz takes the computation errors away

05:24 <Soul_keeper> will be a shame, but it must go, i can't stand 10+ hardlocks a day

05:24 <Soul_keeper> glxinfo, and nvidia's own  nvidia-settings  like to hardlock it

05:25 <Soul_keeper> ohhh wow, i'm getting pixel corruption now

05:25 <Soul_keeper> random dots on my screen

05:27 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/defective2.jpg

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05:55 <Soul_keeper> card is back in the box now with the receipt

05:58 <Soul_keeper> shoulda known better i guess ...

05:58 <Soul_keeper> it's apparently board revision v0.0

06:04 <CoderForLife> I'd wait until Board 3.0 - like anything coming from Microsoft

06:04 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:04 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:04 <Soul_keeper> yeah there were apparently 2 more revisions, i just got unlucky since i bought retail

06:05 <Soul_keeper> later

06:27 <hawmps_> 'mornin

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06:33 <Soul_keeper> good work

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06:37 <Soul_keeper> good work KathrynM

06:37 <KathrynM> I wonder what the cat did to the computer.  All I know is it rebooted

06:40 <Soul_keeper> heh

06:40 <Soul_keeper> i once had a bird that loved walking on the keyboard

06:40 <hawmps> lol - cats-coffee-computers

06:41 <Soul_keeper> he'd also masturbate constantly ... but that's a different story

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07:45 <yoyo[work]> moin

07:45 <yoyo[work]> &wx sxf

07:45 <Romulus> yoyo[!@#&]: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.48in / 1032hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 12:20 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:51 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Chance of Rain. High:53 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.; Chance of Rain. High:46 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:30 F.;

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08:18 <jackygrahamez> hi

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08:34 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:34 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 39.1F / 3.9C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny...warmer. Patchy fog early in the morning. High in the lower 70s. South wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 40s. South wind 10 to 15 (1 more message)

08:34 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:34 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 70s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.;

08:39 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

08:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 45.9F / 7.7C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Areas of fog this morning. A chance of rain this afternoon. Highs in the upper 40s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Rain likely in the evening...then a chance of rain (1 more message)

08:40 <jackygrahamez> &more

08:40 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon.;

08:40 <jackygrahamez> good weather for cycling

08:47 <KathrynM> whoa.  hiya jackygrahamez

08:47 <jackygrahamez> hi KathrynM

08:48 <KathrynM> how's life in DC?

08:49 <jackygrahamez> rainy :'(

08:53 <KathrynM> it's getting nice here.  was about 65 and sunny today

08:53 <KathrynM> alas, it won't last long.  soon enough it'll be hot and humid, just like home

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09:34 <PovAdct_w> :(

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09:39 * ball uninstalls boinc from a Windows box

09:41 <ball> What's the minimum computer spec. that makes sense for use with boinc?

09:41 <jackygrahamez> hmm, reminds me that someone from Israel was making a port for Android

09:41 <PovAdct_w> ball: depends on the project

09:42 <ball> PovAdct_w: Ah, okay.

09:43 <ball> I seem to be horribly underpowered.

09:43 <PovAdct_w> there is (was?) even a project tht only used network, so you could run it on a very slow CPU

09:43 <ball> PovAdct_w: that's a cool idea... I wonder how it worked.

09:44 <PovAdct_w> it was some sort of web crawler

09:44 <ball> Ah.

09:46 <PovAdct_w> http://www.depspid.net/

09:46 <Romulus> Title: DepSpid - the dependency spider (at www.depspid.net)

09:47 <ball> I'll just hold off until I get something more powerful.  The fastest machine in the house just crapped out of boinc with a "computation error"

09:48 <ball> that leaves the iBook (900 MHz PowerPC G3) and iPaq Desktop (700 MHz Coppermine Celeron)

09:48 <ball> If I'm lucky, the iBook will manage one work unit before I pull it from boinc.

09:48 <ball> ...the iPaq's at 10%, so I don't hold out much hope there.

09:49 <PovAdct_w> The fastest machine in the house just crapped out of boinc with a "computation error" <- what project?

09:50 <ball> World Community Grid

09:52 <yoyo[work]> re

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09:52 <yoyo[work]> ui

09:52 <ball> hello yoyo[work]

09:53 * yoyo[work] has also a slow computer, therefore I opened an own Boinc project. Now there are 15.000 systems connected ;)

09:53 <ball> yoyo[work]: what's the project?

09:53 <jackygrahamez> boinc goes mobile http://boincoid.sourceforge.net/index.html

09:53 <Romulus> Title: Boincoid (at boincoid.sourceforge.net)

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09:53 <ball> Is that fifteen thousand, or fifteen? :-)

09:54 <yoyo[work]> http://boinc.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/

09:54 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at boinc.rechenkraft.net)

09:54 <yoyo[work]> 15 thousands

09:54 <jackygrahamez> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8072824613637876590&hl=en

09:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cz2yy8> (at video.google.com)

09:54 <yoyo[work]> but I think only 30% are active

09:55 <wdsmia_w> thats because your credit sucks lol

09:56 <yoyo[work]> to less credits ?

09:58 <ball> I don't see where to register.

09:59 <yoyo[work]> you can register with boinc

10:00 <ball> Ah, found it.

10:00 <ball> Thanks

10:00 <yoyo[work]> there where to many spambots registering therefore the link is removed

10:01 <ball> Is it less intensive that WCG?  (smaller work units?)

10:01 <ball> s/that/than/

10:02 <yoyo[work]> the ecm subproject should be small

10:03 <PovAdct_w> boincoid is old news

10:04 <jackygrahamez> yeah just wanted to show him how minimal it could get

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10:05 <ball> Isn't DePaul university in the wrong category (Junior College Vs. University)?

10:07 <yoyo[work]> how do I know how much flops my project preformes? Can I translate credits -> flops?

10:07 <ball> Ah, I'll join team Canada

10:08 <ball> Hmm... "To completion: 52:16:26"

10:09 <ball> I need more cores etc.

10:09 <yoyo[work]> which subproject

10:09 <ball> It says Cruncher ogr 2.12

10:09 <yoyo[work]> yes, the ogr are the biggest

10:09 <ball> Those pop-up things on your Web site are terrible.

10:10 <yoyo[work]> hmm

10:10 <yoyo[work]> should switch them off in future

10:11 <ball> I was saving up for a new computer, but Mrs. ball told me today that we have to raid savings just to survive.

10:11 <ball> :-(

10:15 <ball> How do I choose sub-projects?

10:17 <yoyo[work]> click edit there http://boinc.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/prefs.php?subset=project

10:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cfr3d4> (at boinc.rechenkraft.net)

10:20 <ball> Thanks

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10:23 <ball> Hello Aeternus

10:24 <Aeternus> 'o

10:37 <ball> yoyo[work]: ah, the evolution@home work units seem easier to cope with on old, slow computers.

10:42 <ball> Hmm... well it works on the Windows box... doesn't seem to be working on Linux

10:48 <ball> yoyo[work] Does evolution@home have no Linux version?

10:49 <ball> Ah, I found it.

10:49 * ball sighs

10:54 <jackygrahamez> nice, I got gromacs built with double-precision in Visual Studio...that was the most painless compile ever!!!

11:05 <ball> yoyo[work]: I've added ecm, but the Linux box still has no work units.

11:10 <jackygrahamez> in commandline, is there a way to send a signal to the client to connect to the server?

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11:57 <jackygrahamez> ok I have a little problem and maybe someone can give me advice

11:58 <jackygrahamez> This new double precision version of GROMACS has a problem when I run it through the wrapper

11:58 <jackygrahamez> it returns an error message with dialogue box that says debug

11:59 <jackygrahamez> when I compiled this version I switched the release version to doublerelease

12:00 <jackygrahamez> actually there are several apps that I compiled that go with GROMACS, the only one that is reporting this error through the wrapper is mdrun

12:02 <jackygrahamez> here is an example http://www.hydrogenathome.org/result.php?resultid=1292437

12:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c3hg4m> (at www.hydrogenathome.org)

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13:12 <jackygrahamez> i get this message http://pastebin.com/m39a8343f

13:12 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

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14:54 <MTughan_> o_O http://www.abc-7.com/articles/readnews.asp?articleid=27043&z=2

14:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bkeaor> (at www.abc-7.com)

14:54 <MTughan_> "Bad idea: Hammering bullets"

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14:56 <MTughan_> 'lo yoyo

14:57 <yoyo[RKN]> rehi

15:06 <Tank_Master> MT!!

15:06 <Tank_Master> yo yoyo

15:06 <MTughan_> w00t, looks like Alex's patch works for compilation... Just doing make check now.

15:06 <MTughan_> 'lo TM

15:07 <Tank_Master> patch for what?

15:07 <yoyo[RKN]> just even read it

15:07 <MTughan_> Couldn't get a 64-bit OS X build of yoyo's ecm binaries.

15:07 <MTughan_> The dev just posted a patch, seems to have fixed it.

15:07 <Tank_Master> nice

15:09 <MTughan_> yoyo[RKN]: I've already compiled the wrapper for x86_64, although it should be able to use the i686 wrapper fine if it just executes ecm. So if this works, you have OS X 64-bit.

15:10 <yoyo[RKN]> I would just use the i686 wrapper

15:10 <MTughan_> All right.

15:10 <MTughan_> "All ECM tests are ok." Want me to benchmark it?

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15:11 <yoyo[RKN]> you can just use the input file which you already have

15:11 <MTughan_> I still have the one from before, yeah.

15:11 <yoyo[RKN]> should be 2 times faster than i686 version

15:11 <ball> yoyo[RKN]: Any PowerPC projects on yoyo@home?

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> you mean for Mac OS, ball?

15:12 <MTughan_> ball: PPC OS X or PPC Linux?

15:12 * ball nods

15:12 <ball> PowerPC, MacOS X

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> ogr and ecm

15:12 <ball> Thanks

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> have a look there http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/apps.php

15:13 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at www.rechenkraft.net)

15:13 <ball> I've signed up for ecm, but I'm not getting any Linux or MacOS X unit

15:13 <ball> s

15:13 <yoyo[RKN]> what does the boincmanager says

15:14 <MTughan_> yoyo[RKN]: "ecm -v -nn -timestamp -chkpnt checkpnt -inp in 11000000"?

15:14 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

15:14 <ball> yoyo[RKN]: Were you asking me?

15:14 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

15:15 <ball> yoyo[RKN]: nothing. There's no explanation.

15:15 <yoyo[RKN]> but the manager says something when requeting new work and why

15:16 <MTughan_> Make sure that your yoyo@home preferences allow you to use all the applications too.

15:16 <Tank_Master> ball needs to enable the scedualer debuging to the get messages as to why there wasnt work

15:16 <MTughan_> http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/prefs.php?subset=project

15:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ck8jsj> (at www.rechenkraft.net)

15:18 <MTughan_> x86_64 results are done, running the i686 to check against now...

15:19 <yoyo[RKN]> brb

15:22 <ball> Tank_Master: Is that diffiult to achieve?

15:22 <Tank_Master> you need to create a CC_config.xml file in the BOINC directory

15:23 <Tank_Master> not sure the data structire on the macOS to know which directory to put it in

15:23 <Tank_Master> MT would know

15:24 <Tank_Master> on windows, it goes in the root directory of the data folder

15:24 <MTughan_> You'd need to create cc_config.xml in /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data.

15:25 <MTughan_> I've never made one on Mac, but that's the directory it'd go in.

15:25 <Tank_Master> the innerdsof the file are the same, right mt?

15:25 <MTughan_> Yep.

15:26 <MTughan_> This'll get messy... Intel threatening to pull AMD's license to x86, and AMD threatening to pull Intel's license to x86_64...

15:26 <MTughan_> http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/03/amd-intel-engaged-in-x86-licensing-staredown.ars

15:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c34vl3> (at arstechnica.com)

15:27 <ball> MTughan_: eww, that wouldn't be good to either of them.

15:27 <MTughan_> Nope.

15:28 <MTughan_> yoyo[RKN]: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=daf6468a

15:28 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)

15:28 <MTughan_> Red lines are 32-bit, blue are 64-bit.

15:28 <MTughan_> Looks like it's over twice as fast.

15:29 <Tank_Master> nice! :)

15:29 <Tank_Master> zombie will be happy

15:29 <MTughan_> :P

15:29 <MTughan_> I'll package it up.

15:30 <MTughan_> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/ecm_6.2.1_x86_64_mac.zip

15:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c3h532> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

15:32 <ball> will I have to restart the manager?

15:33 <MTughan_> To be sure. There's supposed to be a way to reload the prefs while it's running, but it doesn't seem to work.

15:33 <Tank_Master> on windows, in the advaced view, advaced -> read config file

15:33 <Tank_Master> it works on the windows version

15:33 <MTughan_> Tank_Master: Yeah, that doesn't seem to work.

15:33 <Tank_Master> dunno about the others

15:34 <Tank_Master> best way to know for sure is to just restart it :)

15:34 <Tank_Master> works for me

15:34 <MTughan_> That's what I'm talking about, the Windows version.

15:34 <Tank_Master> at least has in the past

15:34 <MTughan_> Windows 64-bit, 6.2.19, on Windows 7.

15:34 <MTughan_> If I modify the ncpus value and reload it, it doesn't change the scheduler.

15:35 <Tank_Master> works on 6.6.15 x64 runing on win7

15:35 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:34:55 PMRe-reading cc_config.xml

15:35 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:34:55 PMNumber of usable CPUs has changed from 4 to 3. Running benchmarks.

15:35 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:34:55 PMRunning CPU benchmarks

15:35 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:34:55 PMSuspending computation - running CPU benchmarks

15:35 <MTughan_> Hmm, odd...

15:35 <MTughan_> Heh, nice formatting. :P

15:36 <Tank_Master> ?

15:36 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:36:31 PMBenchmark results:

15:36 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:36:31 PM Number of CPUs: 4

15:36 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:36:31 PM 2949 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

15:36 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 12:36:31 PM 9578 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

15:36 <MTughan_> The date and the actual message have no space between them.

15:36 <Tank_Master> oh yeah :P

15:37 <Tank_Master> in BOINC they are seperated by the coloum

15:37 <MTughan_> Is that a 45nm Intel proc?

15:37 <ball> I quit, re-launched

15:37 <ball> Still nothing.

15:37 <Tank_Master> no

15:37 <Tank_Master> 64

15:37 <Tank_Master> er 65 :P

15:37 <MTughan_> What CPU?

15:37 <Romulus> I guess What CPU is it running on, MTughan_

15:37 <Tank_Master> its a qx6700 @ 3.2 GHz

15:38 <MTughan_> Odd, my Q6600 gets about the same FP, but only 9000 integer...

15:38 <MTughan_> It's running at 3.26GHz.

15:38 <Tank_Master> default FSB, but 12x multi

15:38 <MTughan_> 9x multiplier, whatever FSB that equates to.

15:38 <MTughan_> &math 3.267 / 9

15:38 <Romulus> MTughan_: 0.363

15:39 <MTughan_> 363MHz.

15:39 <Tank_Master> not bad

15:39 <Tank_Master> I cant go much over 310 MHz on mine

15:39 <MTughan_> I've run this thing up to 400MHz+ stable, but not with the 9x multiplier. I have to back down to 7.

15:39 <Tank_Master> but it is a 975 chipset

15:39 <ball> I would like a new processor.

15:39 <MTughan_> P45.

15:39 <Tank_Master> ahh, yeah

15:39 <ball> ...new machine really.

15:40 <Tank_Master> my next systemm will be the i7

15:40 <MTughan_> ball: The quad cores aren't really too expensive anymore.

15:40 <Tank_Master> no they arent

15:40 <MTughan_> You can probably pick up a Q6600 G0 that will OC well for about $200USD I believe.

15:41 <Tank_Master> the i7 920 I can get for $306

15:41 <MTughan_> Other currencies may vary. I haven't see the i7 920 for under $450 CDN.

15:41 <MTughan_> &currency convert 306 USD to CAD

15:41 <Romulus> MTughan_: 306.00 usd = 389.35 cad

15:42 <Tank_Master> I got a firend who sell to me at his price, he has a wholesale licence

15:42 <MTughan_> Rip-off... >_>

15:42 <ball> MTughan_: right, but then I'd need a new mainboard and RAM too

15:42 <ball> ...at least. Probably a hard disk or two as well.

15:42 <MTughan_> ball: Yeah, the DDR3 RAM kills the pricing...

15:42 <MTughan_> An AMD Phenom II can take DDR2.

15:42 <Tank_Master> 2x3GB corshair (whever the performance ed is) for $175

15:43 <Tank_Master> er 3x2GB*

15:43 <MTughan_> Tank_Master: You mean Corsair?

15:43 <Tank_Master> whatever :P

15:43 <Tank_Master> thisll be the first time im buying non kingston ram for my own system

15:43 <ball> Horsehair?

15:44 <ball> I need a new job before I can buy a new maine.

15:44 <ball> machine*

15:44 <MTughan_> I had OCZ RAM in my first system, but I think we went through like 4 dual-channel kits before finding one with two working RAM sticks.

15:44 <MTughan_> Took Mushkin RAM for this machine, works fine.

15:45 <Tank_Master> never had priblems with kingston

15:45 <MTughan_> Oh, $360 CDN... Not a bad price.

15:45 <MTughan_> Finally.

15:45 <Tank_Master> its just for the same rating, its $225

15:45 <MTughan_> &currency convert 360 CAD to USD

15:45 <Romulus> MTughan_: 360.00 cad = 282.74 usd

15:45 <Tank_Master> nice

15:45 <Tank_Master> where at?

15:45 <MTughan_> Newegg Canada.

15:46 <MTughan_> NCIX still has it for $410.

15:46 <MTughan_> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202 if you're interested.

15:46 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6mzmmh> (at www.newegg.ca)

15:46 <Tank_Master> 289 at the US newegg

15:47 <MTughan_> And still only $12CDN for shipping, so the page says.

15:47 <Tank_Master> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

15:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6pjnku> (at www.newegg.com)

15:47 <Tank_Master> lol

15:47 <Tank_Master> same page, just a .ca or .com is different

15:47 <MTughan_> So I noticed there...

15:48 <Tank_Master> to funny

15:49 <MTughan_> ball: Did you get yoyo@home running?

15:49 <MTughan_> yoyo[RKN]: Did you get the results of the benchmark and the final app?

15:49 <ball> MTughan_: Not on the Mac or Linux box

15:50 <MTughan_> Because I know yoyo had some problems with OS X PPC ecm a couple days ago, but the problem was on his end and was fixed.

15:50 <MTughan_> So some people can get WUs for their machines.

15:51 <ball> I'm getting nothing, on either of them.

15:51 <MTughan_> What version of BOINC are you running?

15:52 <ball> 6.2.18

15:52 <MTughan_> Not the latest, but it should suffice...

15:52 <MTughan_> Did you put work fetch debug in a cc_config?

15:53 <ball> I'm not sure how

15:53 <MTughan_> Hold on...

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15:54 <ball> hello rodrigoflores

15:54 <rodrigoflores> ball, hi

15:54 <MTughan_> ball: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

15:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/55ypmz> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:55 <MTughan_> I think you'll either want work_fetch_debug or sched_op_debug.

15:56 <rodrigoflores> I have installed a boinc server and it's working. But I would like to run a R (the statistics tool) file in a grid. How can I do that?

15:56 <Tank_Master> <sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug> <- he has that in there

15:57 <Tank_Master> yoyo[RKN]

15:57 <ball> Oh yes, I've got that, thanks.

15:59 <Tank_Master> you need to add in <work_fetch_debug>1</work_fetch_debug> on the line after <log_flags>

15:59 <Tank_Master> I didnt have that in there

16:00 <yoyo[RKN]> re

16:00 <Tank_Master> (make it its own line between <log_flags> and <sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug>

16:00 <yoyo[RKN]> thanks MTughan, so it is 3 times faster

16:00 <Tank_Master> yoyo, rodrigoflores has a qustion you may be able to answer

16:01 <yoyo[RKN]> where?

16:01 <Tank_Master> 3/16/2009 1:00:43 PMHydrogen@Home[wfd] overall_debt -41 <- thats my only negitive debt

16:01 <Tank_Master> rodrigoflores   I have installed a boinc server and it's working. But I would like to run a R (the statistics tool) file in a grid. How can I do that?

16:02 <ball> Unrecognised tag in cc_config.xml: <coproc_debug>

16:02 <Tank_Master> ph, just take the line out

16:02 <yoyo[RKN]> a "R"?

16:02 <Tank_Master> its for the GPU apps in the windows 6.6.x clents

16:03 <ball> [work_fetch_debug] Request work fetch: Core client configuration

16:03 <rodrigoflores> yoyo[RKN], yeah. It's an application/language for statistics.

16:04 <Tank_Master> <coproc_debug>

16:04 <Tank_Master> Show details of coprocessor (GPU) scheduling New in 6.3

16:04 <Tank_Master> what version of BOINC r u running, ball?

16:05 <ball> Tank_Master: 6.2.18

16:05 <Tank_Master> ok

16:05 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D

16:05 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

16:05 <yoyo[RKN]> than you have to make a boinc application

16:05 <Tank_Master> see if a newer verion helps

16:06 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

16:06 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

16:06 <Tank_Master> either place should have the latest

16:09 <Soul_keeper> just returned my gtx260 ...

16:09 <ball> I'll have to try to find the existing version, to delete it.

16:09 <Tank_Master> why did you return it, SK?

16:10 <ball> If I delete it, do I lose a partially-completed work unit?

16:10 <Tank_Master> cant you uninstall it?

16:10 <ball> I don't know how to do that on MacOS X

16:11 <ball> Isn't it just a case of drag it to the trash can?

16:11 <Tank_Master> dunno

16:11 <Tank_Master> on windows when you uninstall it itll keep the data files

16:12 <Tank_Master> so when its reinstalled, it keeps the work in progress

16:13 <ball> Ah good, it kept the work

16:13 <Tank_Master> :)

16:13 <Tank_Master> now that coproc line should be reconized

16:15 <ball> Benchmark results: Number of CPUs: 4 (erm, no)

16:16 <ball> I wonder why it thinks that.

16:16 <MTughan> Odd, MTughan_ should've quit...

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16:17 <Tank_Master> thats cus in the config file I sent you it has "<ncpus>4</ncpus>"

16:17 <Tank_Master> either remove that line or set it to a vaule you want

16:17 <ball> Ah, I should fix that

16:17 <Tank_Master> :)

16:17 <Tank_Master> sorry bout that

16:17 <Tank_Master> guess thats what I get just just blindly copy n pasting

16:18 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Yep, probably close to three times faster. Did you get the application?

16:18 <yoyo[RKN]> yes i have it

16:19 <Tank_Master> nice work MT :)

16:19 <MTughan> Okay, thanks.

16:19 <yoyo[RKN]> but fist i must eat my vanilla chery ice cream

16:19 <MTughan> Ooh, sounds good... :P

16:20 <xcamel> re-hi

16:20 <Soul_keeper> http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4750-rv740-review-preview-test/

16:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/deokto> (at www.guru3d.com)

16:20 <Soul_keeper> i'm holding out for 40nm now

16:21 <Soul_keeper> that budget card has twice the SPs as a 3870 for like 100 bucks

16:24 <ball> Perhaps yoyo@home just doesn't work with my machine.

16:24 <CoderForLife> re-hi

16:25 <CoderForLife> can I stand down red alert on PrimeGrid wdsmia wdsmia_w?

16:25 <Tank_Master> CFL!

16:25 <CoderForLife> T_M!

16:25 <Tank_Master> wb :)

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16:26 <CoderForLife> it's really really good to be back

16:27 <Tank_Master> lol

16:30 <ball> I'll detach from yoyo@home

16:31 <Tank_Master> y?

16:31 <ball> Tank_Master: I can't seem to make it work

16:31 <Tank_Master> ahh

16:31 <CoderForLife> did anyone re-answer rodrigoflores on running R on BOINC?

16:32 <ball> brb, phone

16:32 <yoyo[RKN]> easiest way would be to make a R-app and run it with the wrapper

16:33 <Tank_Master> no they didnt, cfl

16:33 <Tank_Master> rod is gone now though

16:33 <CoderForLife> I gave him an excellent link

16:34 <CoderForLife> that last time he asked

16:38 <xcamel> 'lo Don

16:38 <ball> Are nVidia the only GPUs that boinc can use?

16:38 <yoyo[RKN]> how now to add a 64bit mac version

16:38 <Soul_keeper> HI PEOPLE !!!

16:38 <Tank_Master> LOL - the camera on the shuttel has an "are you sure?" message that pops when when you try to turn them off :P

16:38 <yoyo[RKN]> do not have it in my projekt.xml

16:38 <ball> yoyo[RKN]: 64-bit PowerPC, or Intel?

16:38 <MTughan> ball: Officially.

16:39 <yoyo[RKN]> intel

16:39 <Tank_Master> ball - nvidia is the only gpu deteched by the BOINC manager

16:39 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: The platform string should be x86_64-apple-darwin.

16:39 <Soul_keeper> ball, pretty much. unless you do milkyway in windows (the only ati project)     officially technically there is no gpu stuff ...

16:39 <Tank_Master> however there is a project tht got some ATI cards to wrok with point

16:39 <Tank_Master> boinc*

16:39 <ball> Must they be Radeon cards?

16:39 <Tank_Master> 38xx and 48xx only

16:39 <ball> (not that I have MS Windows anyway, other than on Mrs. ball's PC)

16:40 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, i saw a guy working on a dos project to benchmark  cuda/stream cards

16:40 <MTughan> For ATI? I don't know if FireGL cards would work.

16:40 <Soul_keeper> http://3.14.by/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=49&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=140

16:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c35c9y> (at 3.14.by)

16:40 <MTughan> Interesting.

16:40 <Soul_keeper> i'm just gonna hold out for ati support.  have fun kicking my ass

16:41 <MTughan> :P

16:41 <Soul_keeper> that gtx260 was insane, shot my system power usage from 220 to 370 watts

16:41 <Tank_Master> sk - milkyway has an app for ATI

16:41 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, windows only

16:42 <Tank_Master> I thought thay had a linux app to

16:42 <Soul_keeper> just for the cpu

16:42 <MTughan> For CPU.

16:42 <Tank_Master> hummm

16:42 <Tank_Master> wonder why I thought the gpu app was for both

16:42 <Soul_keeper> yeah their maintainers are windows only scripters

16:42 <MTughan> The person making the GPU is sort of doing it illegally, but the project admin doesn't care too much because of the performance improvements he's made to the CPU app as well.

16:43 <Tank_Master> 0o

16:43 <Tank_Master> illegal?

16:43 <Tank_Master> how so?

16:43 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I think Travis is Linux, because he has to wait for Dave to do the Windows builds.

16:43 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, it's not too rough on someone to call them a "windows only scripter" is it ?  :)

16:44 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, nice

16:44 <MTughan> Yeah, he modified a version without copyright info, so it should've defaulted to the writer, who he needed to get permission from to modify the app.

16:44 <CoderForLife> I've been called worse, but it's pretty low =)

16:44 <CoderForLife> With the Ides of March PrimeGrid challenge over, I'm returning my machines to their regularly scheduled crunching, wdsmia

16:46 <xcamel> never got into primegrid

16:46 <CoderForLife> wdsmia put out a plea on behalf of the honor of TFFE

16:47 <CoderForLife> so I gave him all the firepower I could

16:49 <CoderForLife> I've got a kabillion PG WUs waiting

16:50 <Tank_Master> :P

16:50 <CoderForLife> BOINC Manager doesn't work so well on multiple WU select aborts

16:51 <ball> If I find a new job, I'm going to reward myself with a mainboard that has a PCIe x16 slot

16:51 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : I released the 64bit version

16:52 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: All right, I'll test some WUs with my Mac.

16:52 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, thx

16:55 <ball> Would a Mac mini overheat if I ran boinc on it?

16:56 <MTughan> ball: Not if it has enough ventilation, I don't think so.

16:56 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: All right, running. I confirmed it downloaded the 64-bit version as well.

16:56 <Soul_keeper> i run boinc on me EeePC at the highest priority :)

16:56 <yoyo[RKN]> and started, MTughan?

16:56 <MTughan> Yep.

16:56 <Soul_keeper> i gotta lift it off the ground an inch or it'll overheat tho

16:57 <MTughan> Just over 2 minutes in now.

16:57 <ball> Soul_keeper: I'm drawn to the EeeBox, but they don't sell it with Linux any more afaict.

16:58 <Soul_keeper> that's weak

16:58 <Soul_keeper> too many noobs couldn't figure out "where's my outlook express!?!?"

16:58 <Tank_Master> im looking at just buying the mobo n atom cpy for $56 and runing it in a case I already got

16:58 <Soul_keeper> and the real linux users hated the distro they were shipping

16:58 <Tank_Master> cpu*

16:59 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: What were they shipping? Ubuntu?

16:59 <ball> Tank_Master: I thought about doing that with the Intel Atom board

16:59 <Soul_keeper> if ion had a 100 dollar or less pricetag that might be cool

16:59 <ball> MTughan: Xandros

16:59 <Soul_keeper> their own twist on ubuntu

16:59 <MTughan> Xandros? Yuck.

16:59 <Tank_Master> its amasing how cheep the aton mobo/cpu combos cam be

16:59 <Soul_keeper> started into X right away, and couldn't get a terminal without hacking things

17:00 <ball> Tank_Master: lack of VT puts me off though

17:00 <ball> I could really benefit from that.

17:00 <Tank_Master> vt?

17:00 <ball> hardware support for virtualisation

17:01 <Tank_Master> ahh

17:01 <Tank_Master> I dont have a use for it really

17:01 <Soul_keeper> something tells me amd won't stand still on this cool and quiet stuff for much longer, they've got to realize how much money they've lost by now

17:01 <ball> I would like to replace my fleet of aging rubbish with a few virtual machines on a more modern PC

17:01 <MTughan> Especially with the recent heat between AMD and Intel?

17:02 <ball> Soul_keeper: what's up with CnQ?

17:02 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Checkpointed at 20%, around 3:45 into computation.

17:02 <Soul_keeper> yeah intel just said they could shut down amd's production in 2 months

17:02 <yoyo[RKN]> 20% means the first ecm finished

17:02 <Tank_Master> where did they say that?

17:02 <Tank_Master> SK

17:02 <Soul_keeper> ball, i just meant low power cpu's like  atom/c7

17:03 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14588

17:03 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: No, Intel said that if AMD didn't respond, they'd revoke AMD's x86 license.

17:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cn7jrz> (at www.dailytech.com)

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17:03 <Soul_keeper> official notice they sent to AMD

17:03 <MTughan> AMD has done vice versa, threatening to revoke Intel's x86_64 license.

17:03 <Soul_keeper> threatening of legal actions and what not

17:03 <ball> Soul_keeper: how does Turion compare?

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17:04 <Soul_keeper> ball, it's a bigger package and not as small of a process tech, they might update it tho

17:04 <Soul_keeper> an atom cpu is the size of a dime,  the turion is like 4 times as large

17:05 <MTughan> http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/03/amd-intel-engaged-in-x86-licensing-staredown.ars

17:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c34vl3> (at arstechnica.com)

17:06 <Tank_Master> the atom is the worlds smallest mass produces CPU

17:06 <ball> brb, phone

17:06 <Soul_keeper> so what is the official expiration of patents these days anyways ?  14yrs ?  17yrs ?

17:06 <Tank_Master> consumes 8w for the dual core version

17:06 <ball> Tank_Master: smaller than AVR? ARM?

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17:07 <ball> AVR's not a fair comparison, but ARM is

17:07 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: No idea. It's probably too long.

17:07 <Soul_keeper> "U.S. Patents filed prior to June 8, 1995 expire 17 years from the date of issue, or 20 years from the first non-provisional patent application in the family ..."

17:07 <ball> Atom's probably aimed at reclaiming some customers from ARM

17:07 <ball> ...though Intel license ARM anyway, so...

17:07 <Soul_keeper> they've got to be getting close with x86

17:07 * ball shrugs

17:08 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : how much RAM has your 64bit Mac?

17:08 <Tank_Master> intel and TSMC recently signed an agrenment to share tech

17:08 <MTughan> 2GB.

17:08 <yoyo[RKN]> ok

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17:09 <MTughan> Maybe that's what AMD is using to threaten Intel's x86_64 agreements.

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17:12 <Soul_keeper> http://www.pcworld.com/article/142443/intel_and_antitrust_a_brief_history.html   intel loses most their court cases anyways

17:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c7dcvv> (at www.pcworld.com)

17:12 <Soul_keeper> they just like to threaten/scare, because they can afford the lawyers

17:13 <Tank_Master> lol

17:19 <ball> Interesting: going by the numbers boinc reports, Celeron Coppermine (i686) is faster per MHz than Celeron Northwood (Netburst)

17:20 <ball> s/boinc/yoyo@home

17:20 * ball shrugs

17:20 <Soul_keeper> intel's patent should be expired already

17:20 <Soul_keeper> seems it dates back to 1978

17:20 <Soul_keeper> apparently they've been allowed patent extensions

17:21 <ball> 1978 for 8086 or 4004?

17:21 <ball> Ah, 8086

17:22 <Soul_keeper> but i'm sure they also have the patents for sse mmx and all those extensions ...  amd probably pays a portion of each chip's income toward those

17:25 <ball> 386 Protected mode?

17:25 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Just finished, 18:02 overall.

17:25 <ball> SpeedStep?

17:26 <MTughan> Intel'

17:26 <yoyo[RKN]> good to know

17:26 <MTughan> Intel's Speedstep is just like AMD's CnQ.

17:26 <Tank_Master> cept it works better :P

17:26 <ball> How does CnQ differ from PowerNow! ?

17:26 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Considering estimated time was 48 minutes. You may have to lower estimates.

17:27 <ball> Finer granularity?

17:27 <Tank_Master> powernow is an over version of C&Q

17:27 <Soul_keeper> ball, something like that ..  there are entire articles on the subject

17:27 <Tank_Master> C&Q is much more functional

17:27 <ball> ok

17:27 <ball> My K6-2+ had powerNow!

17:27 <Tank_Master> id toss it :P

17:27 <ball> ...think it was in early Athlons too

17:28 <Soul_keeper> i think via has the best powersaving tech tho,  the finest granularity

17:28 <ball> Tank_Master: that's one of my fastest machines. :-/

17:28 <Tank_Master> 00

17:28 <MTughan> Tank_Master: He has an iBook G3 too. He likes old hardware.

17:28 <Tank_Master> shyt man

17:28 <ball> Soul_keeper: I think Via design a lot of the heat out.

17:28 <Tank_Master> you need to get a core2 or i7

17:28 <Soul_keeper> :)

17:29 <ball> Tank_Master: yes I do, but I'm incredibly broke.

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17:29 <Tank_Master> at least get an atom then

17:29 * ball nods

17:29 <ball> That would be a big step in the right direction for me.

17:29 <Tank_Master> for about $150 you can get eh bord, cpu, stick of ram, and a vid card

17:29 <Tank_Master> fpr $40 you can get a 160GB HD

17:29 <ball> Tank_Master: it won't take a video card afaik

17:29 <ball> well, PCI perhaps

17:30 <ball> I wonder where my Xpert98 card is

17:30 <Tank_Master> itll take a PCI vid card

17:30 <MTughan> zombie67 ordered an Atom for crunching, not sure how it's getting along.

17:30 <Tank_Master> (yes they are still made)

17:30 <ball> Pity I can't buy an Atom board with a PCIe x16 slot, CUDA for the use of.

17:30 <Tank_Master> you can get a 512MB geforce 9400 PCI for $75

17:30 <Tank_Master> thatll do cuda

17:30 <Soul_keeper> think they have a 9600 version too

17:31 <ball> Tank_Master: would PCI cripple CUDA much?

17:31 <Tank_Master> havent found one yet

17:31 <Tank_Master> I dunno how much itll impact performance

17:31 <Tank_Master> I know someone who bought one to see how well itll perform

17:31 <MTughan> I'm pretty sure I've seen an Atom board with PCIe... Although it may have been an Ion board.

17:32 <Tank_Master> the ion is the onlye onw with pci-e

17:32 <Tank_Master> and its not out yet

17:32 <Tank_Master> plus the ion has an interegrated 9400

17:32 <Soul_keeper> i heard people talking in the cuda chan, apparently pci does impact it

17:32 <Soul_keeper> but because the card is so slow anyways, you might not notice

17:32 <Tank_Master> how much?

17:32 <Romulus> Rumor has it how much is the 233 going for back then ? think i got one laying around, Tank_Master

17:33 <Tank_Master> stfu rommie

17:33 <Soul_keeper> dunno i'd have to search the logs

17:33 <Tank_Master> ok

17:33 <Tank_Master> even 500RAC would help

17:33 <Tank_Master> on an atom bord

17:33 <Soul_keeper> could happen

17:33 <Tank_Master> that would almost double the output

17:34 <ball> I wonder if I can find a PCI 8400 card

17:34 <Tank_Master> yes

17:34 <Tank_Master> I think I rememebr seeing some

17:34 <Tank_Master> but the cost different probably wont be much

17:35 <ball> Except that PCI wouldn't require a new machine.  PCIe would

17:37 <Soul_keeper> only 16 PS's in the 8400 GS

17:37 <MTughan> Apparently the 945GSE chipset has 4 PCIe lanes.

17:37 <ball> Soul_keeper: that's sixteen more than I have now ;-)

17:37 <Tank_Master> the 9400 has the same

17:38 <Soul_keeper> seems so

17:38 <Soul_keeper> :)

17:38 <ball> Are the ones in the 9400 faster somewhow?

17:38 <ball> somehow*

17:38 <Tank_Master> higher clock seeds

17:38 <MTughan> Oh... Not the 945GSE chipset directly, but the ICH7M southbridge. Sucks.

17:39 <Tank_Master> yeah, im hoping intell will update the mobo

17:39 <Tank_Master> I saw a shottle barebone with the newer g45 graphics

17:39 <MTughan> Well, why did they stick it with such a cruddy chipset in the first place?

17:40 <Tank_Master> its what was out at the time?

17:40 <MTughan> No, it was two years old when Atom came out.

17:40 <Soul_keeper> originally intel didn't want to make atom "too good"

17:41 <Soul_keeper> afraid it would cut into the c2d margins

17:41 <MTughan> The 945GSE chipset itself was released Q2 2008, but comparable chipsets were released in Jan 2006.

17:41 <Soul_keeper> not enough profit from selling them

17:41 <Soul_keeper> or so they say ...

17:41 <Soul_keeper> costs intel 8 dollars to make an atom cpu

17:42 <Soul_keeper> they sale them for like 30 bucks or more i believe

17:42 <ball> Soul_keeper: Core 2 Solo probably

17:43 <MTughan> No such processor.

17:43 <ball> I thought they made them for laptops

17:43 <MTughan> There was only the Core Solo, I don't think they ever made a Core 2 Solo.

17:43 <Tank_Master> http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GCLF2-D945GCLF2D/D945GCLF2-D945GCLF2D-overview.htm

17:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bg8vb5> (at www.intel.com)

17:43 <MTughan> Oh, so they do... But only three models.

17:43 <Tank_Master> Featuring the integrated 45nm Intel Atom processor 330 and the Intel 945GC Express Chipset

17:44 <ball> SU-3300

17:44 <ball> Ah, you've found them.

17:44 <MTughan> And the sad part? The fan on there is for the 945 chipset, not the Atom.

17:44 * ball sighs

17:44 <MTughan> The SU-3300 is the 45nm one, they also released two 65nm ones.

17:45 <Tank_Master> I know :P

17:45 <MTughan> The U2100 and U2200.

17:45 * ball nods

17:45 <ball> I would love one of those.

17:45 <MTughan> An Atom or a Core 2 Solo?

17:45 <ball> Either would be a huge upgrade for me.

17:45 <MTughan> The Core 2 Solos are overpriced.

17:46 <MTughan> $262 for a single core? Go for a C2D.

17:46 <ball> MTughan: I could get a comparable Celeron for a lot less

17:46 <Soul_keeper> E4300 was the slowest/first c2d to come out, could probably pick one up for 30 bucks somewhere ...

17:46 <ball> ...though with less L2 cache

17:46 <MTughan> An Atom would be better value though.

17:47 <ball> I think their Atom board is limited in terms of how much RAM I could shove in there though.

17:47 <ball> 2 Gbytes?

17:47 <Tank_Master> yeah, 2GB stick is the max

17:48 <Tank_Master> but thats enough for most things

17:48 <MTughan> You can probably find a 4GB stick, but 2GB would be the ideal.

17:48 <Tank_Master> its not like youll be running crysis on it

17:48 <Soul_keeper> i've got 512MB in my dual core system

17:48 <Tank_Master> no, 2GB is the max, mt

17:48 <Tank_Master> it wont support 4GB

17:48 <ball> Tank_Master: it's enough for now, but bear in mind I tend to keep my machines running for about ten years.

17:48 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Yeah, saw that.

17:48 <Tank_Master> true

17:48 <MTughan> I was thinking physical limits, not actual limits.

17:49 <Tank_Master> wonder what the ion will suppoer

17:49 <Tank_Master> I know itll do DDR3

17:49 <Soul_keeper> you'd be lucky if atom lasted you 1yr :)

17:49 <ball> Soul_keeper: my primary desktop is a 500 MHz Pentium III

17:49 <MTughan> Intel will try to do everything to keep Ion from the market.

17:50 <Soul_keeper> my athlonxp 2000+  rivals it in performance

17:50 <MTughan> ball: I have a 2.8GHz P4 I just recently retired.

17:50 <ball> MTughan: do you live locally? :-)

17:50 <MTughan> I live locally to myself. :P

17:51 <ball> Oh!  I have to go and pick up fork from school

17:51 <Soul_keeper> that athlonxp is over 7yrs old now

17:51 <ball> Catch you guys another day.

17:51 <Tank_Master> hf

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17:51 <Tank_Master> yeah, but that athlon comsume what, 10x the power?

17:52 <Soul_keeper> doubt it

17:52 <Tank_Master> 5x?

17:52 <Romulus> I guess 5x is dual socket, Tank_Master

17:52 <Soul_keeper> i'd have to hook my kill-o-watt to it to be sure,  but they ran on 200watt psu's

17:52 <Tank_Master> wtf?

17:52 <MTughan> forget 5x

17:52 <Romulus> 10-4, MTughan.

17:53 <Soul_keeper> i don't wanna kill my 250 day uptime to see how much power it drawls :)

17:53 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna run it to a new uptime record before i retire it :)

17:55 <Soul_keeper> they'll probably put that kind of computing power in watches here soon enough

17:57 <Soul_keeper> ahhh i remember what someone was talking about now,  he ran his pcie connector at 1x and guaged the performance impact on cuda

17:57 <Soul_keeper> it was significant he said

18:00 <Tank_Master> ok

18:00 <Tank_Master> bummer

18:01 <Tank_Master> I recxall someone saying the pci cards registered as pci-e 1x

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18:22 <xcamel> back again

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18:29 <Tank_Master> wb

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18:30 <Tank_Master> howdy wdsmia

18:30 <wdsmia> *lo TM

18:30 <Tank_Master> wazz up?

18:31 <wdsmia> is it Friday yet?

18:34 <PovAddict> ditto :/

18:34 <PovAddict> what a monday!

18:34 <Tank_Master> lol

18:36 <xcamel> ditto, and ditto.

18:37 <wdsmia> shaping up to be the week from hell

18:38 <PovAddict> lol

18:41 <xcamel> From? Hell seems to be my neighborhood.

18:41 <Tank_Master> lol

18:41 <Tank_Master> :)

18:45 <CoderForLife> ya done good on the Ides challenge, wdsmia

18:46 <CoderForLife> bbiab

18:46 <wdsmia> I did ok

18:48 <wdsmia> 14th place.... team 16th

18:49 <Soul_keeper> http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumor-radeon-hd-4890-rv790--hd-4770-rv740-launch-on-apr-6th/6664.html?doc=6664   ohhh day after my bday

18:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cjnbva> (at vr-zone.com)

18:49 <Soul_keeper> i'm glad i had a defective GTX260

18:54 <jasong> Any Star Trek fans here?

18:55 <jasong> I was reading in cpu magazine that the odd/even bless/curse is the exact opposite for Star Trek movies as it is for Windows software

18:56 <jasong> This upcoming movie is the eleventh, so if the pattern holds, it will suck

18:56 <Soul_keeper> jasong, ME

18:56 <jasong> But Windows 7 will, supposedly, be awesome

18:56 <Soul_keeper> bla

18:56 <jasong> Do you think Star Trek 11 will suck?

18:56 <Soul_keeper> no, all star treks will always be great

18:56 <Soul_keeper> and all windows will always suck

18:56 <jasong> ahh, good point

18:57 <jasong> true again :)

18:57 <Soul_keeper> when is 11 due out ?

18:57 <jasong> I want a gaming console based on Linux, that would rock

18:57 <jasong> I don't know when the movie will come out

18:57 <jasong> I'll google it

18:57 <Soul_keeper> the almost brought out tuxbox a few years ago, dunno whatever happened to it

18:58 <Soul_keeper> you google tuxbox console  and i'll google star trek 11   :)

18:58 <Soul_keeper> may 8th

18:59 <jasong> wow, about a month and a half, teh awesome

18:59 <Soul_keeper> http://www.startrekmovie.com/

18:59 <Romulus> Title: Star Trek | Official Movie Site | In Theaters May 2009 | Star Trek Movie (at www.startrekmovie.com)

18:59 <Soul_keeper> previews :)

18:59 <jasong> Yeah, I was just watching that

19:00 <xcamel> it will be great.

19:00 <Soul_keeper> it has spock in it !!!

19:00 <xcamel> a cameo..

19:00 <Soul_keeper> spock will live forever

19:02 <Soul_keeper> jasong,   http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxbox/    the original hardware was supposed to be duron 1.2GHz and nvidia gf2   if i remember right

19:02 <Romulus> Title: SourceForge.net: Tuxbox Project (at sourceforge.net)

19:03 <Soul_keeper> was supposed to retail for like 350 bucks and compete with the original xbox

19:03 <Soul_keeper> but they never got it past prototype

19:04 <Soul_keeper> #  Processor - AMD Duron 750 MHz

19:04 <Soul_keeper> # GPU - GeForce2 GTS Deluxe

19:04 <Soul_keeper> # RAM - 64 MB system, 32 MB graphics

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19:09 <Soul_keeper> those were impressive specs at the time ...

19:09 <Tank_Master> and are crap now

19:10 <Soul_keeper> http://www.qzx.com/tuxbox/   apparently they had their own UI and everything

19:10 <Romulus> Title: TuxBox UI (at www.qzx.com)

19:10 <Soul_keeper> their homepage completely dissapeared

19:10 <Soul_keeper> tuxboxproject.net  or whatever

19:13 <Soul_keeper> this month is going by slow

19:15 <jasong> Why, are you anticipating something at the end of the month?

19:15 <jasong> (I have ADD and left the room, sorry :( )

19:15 <xcamel> ADRD

19:15 <jasong> ADRD?

19:15 <Tank_Master> new ATI cards will be out beginning of april

19:16 <Soul_keeper> bday in like 2 weeks, baseball season starts, new ati video cards, who know i might starv before april ...

19:16 <jasong> lol

19:16 <jasong> The only days I'm looking forward to are paydays

19:16 <jasong> My life is pleasantly boring

19:16 <Soul_keeper> i gave up on those, "paydays" were usually lies with my previous employer

19:17 <Soul_keeper> "don't cash this for a week"

19:17 <Tank_Master> the RC of win7 will be in april as well

19:18 <Soul_keeper> april will be that much closer to opencl as well ...

19:18 <Tank_Master> true

19:18 <PovAddict> jasong: I don't even look forward to paydays

19:19 <Soul_keeper> my paydays were just fuel for the sinking stock market

19:19 <Soul_keeper> gobbled it all up

19:20 <jasong> Yeah, I know the feeling

19:20 <jasong> My stock is at about a third of what I invested

19:21 <jasong> I decided to put some money into AMD, thought they were about to start rocking and rolling

19:21 <Soul_keeper> AMD is historically a bad investment

19:21 <Soul_keeper> no dividents or anything

19:22 <jasong> It might bite me in the butt, but I'm going to stick with the investment for a while, I'm hoping for another "athlon."

19:22 <Soul_keeper> :)

19:22 <jasong> Plus, even if I never get my investment back, I think it might go up a little, like maybe it's hit bottom

19:23 <PovAddict> I don't look forward to paydays because I don't really spend what I get, so it'd be the same if I didn't get it

19:23 <PovAddict> I don't live off my salary

19:23 <Soul_keeper> citigroup was .99 cents last week,  hit over 2.50 today   i wanted some at 1 buck but i'm broke

19:23 <PovAddict> that's what parents are for

19:23 <PovAddict> till I go live on my own

19:24 <Soul_keeper> you have to have big bucks to make big bucks.  someday

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19:53 <jackygrahamez> hi folks

19:54 <CoderForLife> the folks say hi

19:54 <jackygrahamez> very well then

19:55 <Tank_Master> jacky!!

19:55 <jackygrahamez> hi tank

19:55 <Tank_Master> hows it goin?

19:55 <jackygrahamez> ok

19:56 <xcamel> wb

19:56 <jackygrahamez> just been messing with GROMACS

19:56 <xcamel> groin whut?

19:56 <jackygrahamez> :-)

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20:30 <CoderForLife> nitey-nite

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20:52 <PovAddict> &seen SkaveRat

20:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: SkaveRat was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <SkaveRat> so, anyone got a nice tutorial/howto/explenation how to get a project running, that will not compute uppercases? ;)

20:52 <PovAddict> &last SkaveRat

20:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a net!@#& the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)

20:52 <PovAddict> &last --from SkaveRat

20:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.

20:52 <PovAddict> oh my bad

20:52 <PovAddict> &anySkaveRat

20:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

20:52 <PovAddict> clearly i am

20:52 <PovAddict> &any SkaveRat

20:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: SkaveRat was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 51 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: *** SkaveRat has quit IRC ("The sad thing is, this is only the second worst time I've had in an airport")

20:53 <BadBarbarian> &seen thegasgiant

20:53 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: thegasgiant was last seen in #boinc 21 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 59 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: * TheGasGiant sneaks in

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20:58 <MTughan> &any thegasgiant

20:58 <Romulus> MTughan: thegasgiant was last seen in #boinc 21 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 30 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: *** TheGasGiant has quit IRC ("Say What?")

20:59 <MTughan> I've seen TheGasGiant on recent forums.

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21:02 <PovAddict> http://www.zbxt.net/~aero/Sonic.jpg cute pet

21:02 <PovAddict> fitting name

21:03 <MTughan> I wonder how it'd be having a hedgehog for a pet...

21:03 <MTughan> Not like you can get cuddly with it.

21:05 <PovAddict> "That cute critter just got a bicycle computer to his running wheel."

21:06 <PovAddict> geek owner (hey just look at the name!)

21:06 <MTughan> :P

21:07 <PovAddict> http://www.bash.org/?767215

21:07 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #767215 (at www.bash.org)

21:07 <MTughan> Yep, remember reading that one...

21:08 <MTughan> FF7 being Final Fantasy 7?

21:08 <PovAddict> yes

21:08 <MTughan> Wow, didn't realize there were so many... They're up to 13 now.

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21:20 <Tank_Master> anyone know when the ion will be coming out?

21:22 <jasong> Does anyone know the name of the command-line package manager for CentOS?

21:22 <PovAddict> I think it has yum like fedora

21:22 <jasong> Specifically, I looking for the command-line command that accesses it

21:23 <jasong> Sorry if my question sounds stilted, I'm not confident with the lingo

21:23 <jasong> oh, thanks

21:23 <MTughan> Should be yum.

21:23 <jasong> Yeah, that works, appreciate it, guys

21:23 <jasong> :)

21:26 <PovAddict> "The cheapest, fastest, and most reliable components are those that aren't there. -- Gordon Bell"

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22:09 <wdsmia> god Damn F***ing piece of sH**** ISP

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22:55 <Soul_keeper> wdsmia, you have excellent communication and expression skills :)

22:56 <PovAddict> lol

23:00 <Tank_Master> http://www.officelabs.com/projects/touchwall/Pages/default.aspx

23:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bkkv55> (at www.officelabs.com)

23:14 * PovAddict heads to bed

23:14 <PovAddict> Is It Friday Yet?

23:15 <Tank_Master> didnt someone already ask that?

23:15 <PovAddict> yes

23:15 <PovAddict> so what

23:15 <Tank_Master> lol

23:15 <PovAddict> &last --with friday --nolimit

23:15 <Romulus> PovAddict: [23:14:43] <PovAddict> Is It Friday Yet? and [18:31:17] <wdsmia> is it Friday yet?

23:16 <Tank_Master> nice

23:19 <wdsmia> searchable logs are so nice

23:19 <Soul_keeper> DEATH CAT on house !

23:22 <wdsmia> watching house reruns again?

23:24 <Soul_keeper> i've only seen a few of them

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23:44 <zombie67> I'm checked in at the Courtyard in Hillsboro

23:45 <MTughan> Hey zombie67: How's the Atom cruncher?

23:45 <PovAddict> zombie67: check your email ;)

23:45 <zombie67> It will do about 900/day on MW w/ opt app

23:46 <zombie67> pov:  does that mean it is already in the boinc code?

23:46 <zombie67> so if a project admin updates, he gets the fix now?

23:46 <PovAddict> yup

23:46 <zombie67> sweet!

23:46 <PovAddict> lattice (was it that project?) simply has to upgrade

23:47 <zombie67> I'll let adam know now

23:48 <zombie67> thanks for the help on that one

23:48 <zombie67> gotta go get some dinner

23:48 <zombie67> bbl

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