00:15 <jasong> Any experts here on Atom? Any semi-experts?
00:35 <efc> we heard of it
00:38 <infinisoft> Whats this world cup thing on BoincStats?
00:39 <MTughan> infinisoft: http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=4319
00:41 <infinisoft> Thanks, I noticed it for the past couple of days, but didn't see a link to it or maybe im getting blind :)
00:41 <XioNYC> Frankly, I can't make sense of it either. Here I was thinking that the World Cup was a quadrennial soccer event with viewership in the 1.75-2.25 billion range.
00:42 <MTughan> It's actually been around for about two weeks now if I have it right.
00:42 <XioNYC> (With the '78 and '86 events being cause for much celeberation c-: )
00:43 <infinisoft> My combined boinc rank seems to have flatlined near 12,000 for the past several weeks
00:46 <infinisoft> I guess I the sweet spot for my RAC
00:47 <infinisoft> I hit the*
00:51 <infinisoft> haha, slope changed a bunch right where they cross
00:51 <MTughan> Yeah, my GPU kicked in on MW. :P
00:52 <infinisoft> Wow so my rank has been practically unchanged since september
00:53 <infinisoft> Well Im hanging in there considering my machines have not changed for months
00:53 <MTughan> Yep, looks like you definitely hit the sweet spot.
00:55 <infinisoft> Hmm...I have no GPU to spare...too bad.
00:55 <infinisoft> My top host is a laptop and even if it had a GPU that met the specs I would be wary of using it especially since summer is coming up
00:55 <MTughan> Ah.
00:57 <infinisoft> Room temperatures near 80 F can BSOD me
00:57 <infinisoft> Heh
00:57 <MTughan> My CPUs are running at 50C right now. xD
00:57 <infinisoft> Need to put that A/C to work :)
00:58 <MTughan> Q6600 @ 3.26GHz
00:58 <infinisoft> Nice, I've got T7200 at 2.0GHz
00:58 <infinisoft> lets see the temps according to Core Temp...
00:59 <MTughan> Well, natural A/C helps. It may be cold here, but I like it that way.
00:59 <infinisoft> 63 deg C
01:00 <MTughan> Sounds more like my T9400 laptop.
01:00 <MTughan> I think that usually gets around 68-72C.
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01:01 <infinisoft> Yeah, I run with a cooling pad too that pushes air into the bottom of the laptop where the fan intake is
01:01 <MTughan> I don't have anything like that. They just sit on a desk.
01:03 <infinisoft> I think it helps a little bit, plus this thing acts as a usb hub, kinda nifty
01:03 <MTughan> Nice.
01:05 <infinisoft> Hmm, I am running a lattice WU and the app was not quite maxing the CPU...odd
01:07 <infinisoft> Oh cool, I just checked their site, they are or have already released a GPU app as well
01:07 <MTughan> What GPUs do you have?
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01:09 <infinisoft> Laptop has Geforce Go 7300, 2 desktops have a radeon x300 and nvidia RIVA TNT64, old I know, hehe :)
01:09 <MTughan> Yeah, they're all too old to be used on BOINC.
01:09 <infinisoft> And I think the old server I run has an ATI Rage Pro on the mobo
01:09 <Tidus> my laptop has an nvidia 7600-go, desktop is a radeon x200
01:12 <infinisoft> I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade the GPU of Radeon X300 desktop to a newer budget card, it has a 3.6 GHz Prescott in it
01:13 <MTughan> I think either a GeForce 9600 or 9800GT is a good value if you were to do that.
01:13 <infinisoft> My parents have been using it for digitizing their old video and music collections
01:14 <MTughan> Good, the X300 is PCIe... You'd be fairly stuck if you had to get an AGP or even a PCI graphics card nowadays. ;)
01:15 <zombie67> the nVidia 9400 GT PCI card is Cuda!
01:15 <zombie67> fastest CUDA PIC card
01:15 <MTughan> Is it supported by BOINC?
01:15 <zombie67> yep!
01:16 <MTughan> Cool... :)
01:16 <zombie67> running it on SETI Beta
01:16 <MTughan> Well, PCIe still has the best compatibility.
01:16 <infinisoft> Heh
01:16 <zombie67> too slow for GPUGRID, I think
01:16 <MTughan> Even if it is PCIe 1.0.
01:16 <infinisoft> The RIVA has AGP interface, but probably not worth it since that desktop is basically not used for anything anymore
01:20 <zombie67> On SETI, which I hear is a very POOR implementation of CUDA, the 9400 GT is about 11% the speed of my GTX 280
01:20 <zombie67> but like I said, I hear SETI does not really use the GTX cards like they could be
01:21 <infinisoft> Hmm
01:22 <infinisoft> Are the SETI GPU apps more stable now than when they came out? I heard much about stuck WUs etc
01:22 <zombie67> yes
01:25 <infinisoft> Well thats good
01:25 <zombie67> lattice is about to come out with a cuda app
01:31 <infinisoft> Yeah, I just found out about that, seems like GPU support all around is going up
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07:17 <Soul_keeper> HEY !!! Not enough talking !!!
07:36 <ELGono> morning
07:36 <ELGono> i proudly present: http://matrix.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/~elgono/pg/?Qwd=./SuSy-GC/Indigo%20Susy%20GC&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M
07:36 <ELGono> finally finished last night
08:03 <Soul_keeper> wake up !
08:05 <Soul_keeper> what's that all about ELGono ?
08:06 <Soul_keeper> super hero stuff ?
08:10 <xcamel> mornin
08:11 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223 lol 4 pcie slots ...
08:11 <Soul_keeper> buy that xcamel just cause
08:14 <Soul_keeper> just do it ...
08:25 <Soul_keeper> xcamel ELGono GOOD MORNING !
08:26 <xcamel> lol
08:34 <Soul_keeper> seems like the motherboard players have been widdled down over the past year or two
08:34 <xcamel> indeed
08:34 <Soul_keeper> everything is Asus, gigabyte, msi for topend
08:35 <Soul_keeper> i remember motherboard roundups having like 20 different boards from atleast 10 manufacturer's everytime a new socket was released
08:35 <Soul_keeper> Abit sales digital picture frames now ... apparently more lucrative
08:38 <xcamel> abit used to be pretty good..
08:39 <Soul_keeper> yeah the majority of the motherboards i've owned have been abit
08:39 <Soul_keeper> owned prolly 10 of them over the decade
08:41 <Soul_keeper> what happened to epox ?
08:43 <xcamel> bankrupt
08:43 <Soul_keeper> bummer
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08:45 <Detrix> Hello everyone. I am using ubuntu, and would like to see the pretty graphics for the seti@home project. any other unbuntu users here that can help?
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08:54 <xcamel> most projects don't have graphics in linux.
08:55 <Romulus> Title: Crunch3rs BOINC page (at calbe.dw70.de)
08:58 <Detrix> Soul_keeper: thanx, I will. I believe the build I have is capable, because when I select the seti project, the show graphics button becomes active.
08:58 <xcamel> what happens when you click it?
08:59 <Soul_keeper> glxinfo |grep rendering make sure you have your 3d environment setup right ...
09:06 <Soul_keeper> Ha !
09:08 <xcamel> ?
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09:10 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977
09:10 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 54.9°F / 12.7°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Areas of fog in the morning. Highs 64 to 69. Light winds.; Tonight - Cloudy. Chance of showers overnight. Lows 42 to 52. Light winds. Chance of measurable precipitation 30 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy. (1 more message)
09:10 <Soul_keeper> &more
09:10 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs 55 to 60 in the western valleys to 51 to 56 near the foothills. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph with gusts to 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 70 percent.; Special Weather Statement for San Diego County in effect until 7:45 AM PDT on March 22, 2009;
09:10 <Soul_keeper> i wanna know when sunrise is
09:11 <Soul_keeper> Sunrise: 7:07 AM
09:11 <Soul_keeper> geeze
09:11 <Soul_keeper> it's past 6am and it's midnight dark outside
09:12 <xcamel> the sun wen out.
09:12 <Soul_keeper> first day of spring was yesterday i believe
09:12 <xcamel> it was.
09:12 <Soul_keeper> am i the only crazy bastard that wakes up at 4am on a saturday ?
09:16 <xcamel> dunno
09:16 <xcamel> oh-dark-thirty seems to be CFL's domain
09:26 <xcamel> btw.. that was a hell of a drive back yesterday..
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09:30 * CoderForLife returns from the domain of oh-dark-thirty
09:30 <CoderForLife> morning
09:30 <xcamel> 'lo
09:31 <CoderForLife> I woke up at three-dark-thirty this morning =)
09:31 <xcamel> you do that.
09:31 <CoderForLife> laid back down at 5:30 and up again at 8
09:31 <CoderForLife> didn't do my Sat errands yet
09:32 <xcamel> lol Siena took out Ohio State
09:32 <xcamel> double overtime
09:33 <CoderForLife> how'd that go?
09:34 <xcamel> not much of a bbal fan though
09:34 <CoderForLife> I just don't get into it either
09:35 <CoderForLife> did you take Jeepzilla?
09:35 <xcamel> btw.. I ended up driving all the way back home yesterday
09:35 <CoderForLife> that's a long haul
09:35 <xcamel> got hom exactly at 11:30
09:36 <CoderForLife> I went to bed at 9; we'lll be watching the BSG finale today sometime
09:36 <xcamel> ditto
09:36 <xcamel> Chris said it was good.
09:37 <CoderForLife> excellent - looking forward to it, but sad at the same time
09:37 <CoderForLife> like the ending of Babylon 5
09:37 <xcamel> he said they showed a preview of caprica too
09:37 <CoderForLife> I would expect that
09:38 <xcamel> anyway... JeepZilla is a beast.
09:38 <CoderForLife> no doubt - did you drive it to OSU?
09:39 <xcamel> no.. we went home through canada
09:39 <xcamel> much shorter trip
09:39 <CoderForLife> interesting
09:39 <CoderForLife> I would not have considered that
09:40 <xcamel> port huron to niagra
09:40 <xcamel> then I-90 home
09:40 <xcamel> almost a straight line.
09:41 <CoderForLife> hmm - good thinking
09:42 <xcamel> funny-- rolled in for gas and coffee in London, Ont..
09:42 <xcamel> filled it up, and just as the poor kid stepped out of the booth I started it.
09:42 <xcamel> I'm sure he thought a bomb went off.
09:42 <CoderForLife> heh
09:43 <xcamel> he jumpped abot 2 feet
09:43 <CoderForLife> lol
09:43 <xcamel> we got a good laugh out of it..
09:44 <xcamel> we nee more of those "Tim Hortons" places around here.
09:44 <xcamel> deed even
09:44 <xcamel> sheesh.
09:44 * xcamel slaps self
09:44 <xcamel> needs, even
09:44 <CoderForLife> lol
09:45 <CoderForLife> I don't think I've been to one
09:45 <xcamel> like DD, but more and better.
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09:46 <CoderForLife> ah, looks like the closest ones are up Dayton-way
09:47 <xcamel> probably
09:47 <CoderForLife> heh closet one is only 13 miles away - I had no idea
09:47 <CoderForLife> just up I-75, and clustered all along the exits
09:48 <CoderForLife> "location, location, location"
09:48 <xcamel> hmmm... United States vs. Japan in World Baseball Classic Semifinals.
09:49 <xcamel> guess that's not any kind of surprise
09:50 <CoderForLife> I shouldn't think so
09:50 <CoderForLife> Someone in London Ont won in the Tim Horton RRRoll up the Rim contest
09:56 <xcamel> there are just too many jokes in that one...
09:57 <xcamel> looks like I have a pretty good stack of manuals to half-read
10:07 <xcamel> off to feed the animals..
10:16 <CoderForLife> um-hmm
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10:45 * CoderForLife is in agreement with KathrynM - at least some Saturdays are for sleeping in
11:01 <Soul_keeper> good work
11:14 <CoderForLife> I broke my normal weekly pattern - I know the people at the grocery store are probably worried
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11:57 <xcamel> lol
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12:15 <tmbltx> can someone here possibly help me with a boinc/linux problem?
12:15 <MTughan> More than likely.
12:15 <tmbltx> excellent!
12:17 <tmbltx> i have two boxes. my desktop running ubuntu. and my laptop running puppy linux from a ram drive (cause my hd died last week). on my LAN i've been experimenting with telnet as a precursor to ssh. i've run into the following issue:
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12:18 <tmbltx> i'm able to telnet from my laptop to my desktop... login... and run boinc. BUT... when i do so, as a different user... it recreates the client state xml and client state prev xml files... with different permissions... all previous WU's are marked as computation error.
12:21 <tmbltx> so, my question is: how do i stop the files from being recreated? or, how to i change the permissions they are created with?
12:21 <MTughan> You can only do it by changing which user the boinc daemon is started under.
12:22 <MTughan> My question is why are you running "boinc" in the first place? There should be init.d scripts to start it up, and then you should use the boinccmd program to communicate with it afterwards.
12:22 <tmbltx> i don't have boinc running as a service
12:22 <tmbltx> it doesn't start until i start it. i like it that way.
12:23 <MTughan> You can still use an init.d script to do that then. "service boinc start" when you want it to start.
12:23 <tmbltx> anywa. i just realized that the same user can be logged on twice!
12:24 <tmbltx> interesting. thank you.
12:24 <tmbltx> so i can be logged on under the same account on my desktop and at the same time over telnet on my laptop
12:24 <tmbltx> which gets by my permissions issues. thanks for all your help. :)
12:24 <MTughan> Yes, because those two accounts are separate.
12:25 <tmbltx> same account name
12:25 <MTughan> Also, you can log onto the laptop twice with the same user.
12:25 <tmbltx> is there a limit of concurrent log ons?
12:25 <MTughan> May be the same account name, but if they're on different machines, they're separate.
12:25 <MTughan> There may be a limit, but it's high. I think I've logged onto my account over SSH about 10 times before.
12:25 <tmbltx> haha
12:26 <tmbltx> so. i apologize for my naivete. i've been a linux fan for years, but only a few weeks ago i completely dumped windows on all machines. i'm digging in and learning. thanks for helping me.
12:27 <MTughan> np
12:27 <MTughan> Linux has been designed like that from the beginning, to support multiple users and be able to do stuff like that. It's nice. :)
12:28 <MTughan> I'd still recommend running the boinc daemon from an init.d script, but your way should work.
12:29 <tmbltx> i just really like open source. i like the idea that i can study all of this as deeply as i want. all the way back to the source code, the logic, and the electrons.
12:29 <tmbltx> i'm still understanding the concept of init.d
12:30 <tmbltx> that's a directory, right? under /etc in my case
12:30 <MTughan> Yes, it is.
12:30 <MTughan> Holds scripts to start and stop services on your machine.
12:30 <tmbltx> so every file in that directory is a script for starting some service?
12:30 <MTughan> You can either start/stop/restart them manually through the service command, or have them start on startup.
12:31 <MTughan> Should be.
12:31 <tmbltx> gotcha. and how do i issue the service command... i tried "man service" but it said command not found
12:32 <MTughan> If typing "service" on the command line doesn't show it, try "/sbin/service".
12:32 <MTughan> BTW, you can see the paths that Linux looks for commands in. "echo $PATH"
12:32 <tmbltx> haha. "no such file or directy"
12:33 <tmbltx> anyway... i'll dig around. thanks
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12:51 <Soul_keeper> lol soon as rumours surface that amd is releasing new chips on apr 20th, intel announces new chips on apr 19th
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13:43 <CoderForLife> back from outside inspecting the spring flowers coming up =)
13:43 <CoderForLife> it's interesting what survived the construction devastation
13:44 <CoderForLife> I've got flowers coming up in the grass, where the flower bed used to be =)
13:44 <CoderForLife> where the bobcats ran over and over
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14:00 <ELGono> lo don
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14:02 <turboninjalover> Soul_keeper:
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14:02 <ELGono> looks like a autocompletition fubar
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14:04 <PovAddict> no, he's trying to annoy Soul_keeper
14:04 <PovAddict> xcamel should prolly ban him
14:06 <Soul_keeper> someone i have on ignore making trouble ?
14:07 <PovAddict> [15:02] --> turboninjalover has joined #boinc (firstname.lastname@example.org).
14:07 <PovAddict> [15:02] <turboninjalover> Soul_keeper:
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14:07 <Soul_keeper> figures
14:07 <PovAddict> he does that like daily
14:08 <ELGono> looks like he needs a floodping twice a day
14:08 * PovAddict makes a BOINC project for that
14:09 <Soul_keeper> lol
14:09 <ELGono> *g* i could make some credits in that with gigabit uplink ;)
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14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm
14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> seems that milkyway put something into a yoyo wu http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/result.php?resultid=2742506
14:46 <PovAddict> crapped all over your slot
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15:09 <MTughan> Uh, wow...
15:10 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: Did you send him a PM?
15:11 <yoyo[RKN]> no
15:23 <CoderForLife> time to watch the BSG finale - back later
15:38 <FreeLarry> ahh my getting to be the car salesman nightmare time here
15:39 <FreeLarry> not only will they have to sale the car to the one thats want it but then convince someone who wont be driveing it to purchase it for them
15:44 <FreeLarry> don't know shat the debug info really trying to tell me. only know it occured with bsd on vista
15:45 <MTughan> "Reason: Out Of Memory"
15:45 <FreeLarry> yeah with 4 gig installed
15:46 <MTughan> You can't just load a Linux on it?
15:46 <FreeLarry> thats the machine thats about to get new mb
15:47 <FreeLarry> tried linux and its unstable on that machine also
15:47 <MTughan> Is it out of video memory?
15:47 <FreeLarry> don't think so as 512 vid card if i remember
15:47 <MTughan> What resolution are you running it at?
15:47 <FreeLarry> in safe mode so low
15:48 <FreeLarry> think 600 by 800
15:51 <PovAddict> safe mode?
15:51 <MTughan> You're sure all your memory is working? Windows shows 4GB?
15:51 <FreeLarry> yup
15:51 <PovAddict> hmm why did you ask about video memory MTughan? it's not CUDA is it?
15:52 <FreeLarry> bios and windows and memtest has been ran on it for over 2 days with no error
15:52 <FreeLarry> nope not cuda
15:52 <MTughan> PovAddict: No, but IIRC, Windows basically groups all the memory together.
15:52 <PovAddict> the more video memory you have, the *less* RAM you have, because everything uses the same address space
15:53 <PovAddict> unless it's 64bit
15:53 <FreeLarry> 64 bit installed
15:54 <MTughan> Windows should be able to address it all then.
15:54 <FreeLarry> it does
15:54 <FreeLarry> windows memtest also checked and found good
16:21 <xcamel> re-hi\
16:22 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
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16:40 <xcamel> drove right past you yesterday, Mike..
16:40 <xcamel> sort of..
16:41 <xcamel> port huron >> niagra
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17:03 <CoderForLife> back - BSG finale was very good - tied a nice bow on it all
17:09 <ELGono> rehi
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18:08 <jasong> I'm transferring some old files to a mirrored back and noticed that an old legend of the seeker episode is called geeker.xvid or something. /me wonders if that's a dig
18:09 * jasong concludes that it is, indeed, a dig
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18:44 <xcamel> I just might have to watch that finale again
18:44 <xcamel> just to pick up the little pieces that are lost on me at the moment...
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18:56 <CoderForLife> it's worth a re-watch
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19:16 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Elephant Fail (at www.youtube.com)
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19:27 <PovAddict> ew
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19:38 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Home Shopping Fail (at www.youtube.com)
19:40 <PovAddict> huh
19:40 <PovAddict> leatsag?
19:48 <jasong> I was thinking I eat sag, since he ate it when it sagged
19:48 <jasong> I dunno, I'm OCD :)
19:49 <jasong> I'm always trying to find patterns everywhere
20:30 <MTughan_> Verizon: 0.002 cents/KB * 35896KB = $71.792 (0.002 * 35896 = 71.792)
20:30 <MTughan_> xD
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20:42 <jasong> Do you know where I can get the actual recording of that Verizon phonecall? :)
20:43 <jasong> All I've seen is a script off of it
20:43 <MTughan> It's what I'm listening to now.
20:44 <MTughan> Looks like its almost 20 minutes... xD
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21:37 <efc> moo
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23:25 <PovAddict> quiet day today
23:25 <PovAddict> tonight*
23:25 <efc> Zzzz
23:25 <PovAddict> I found an interesting program
23:26 <PovAddict> a real multiplayer notepad :)
23:27 * efc has been playing silly flash games
23:40 <Soul_keeper> that does sounds cool PovAddict
23:52 <PovAddict> S_k: search for Gobby
23:58 <Soul_keeper> cool