IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-03-23

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00:58 <Soul_keeper>

00:58 <Romulus> Title: Holy Soap Fail FAIL Blog: Pictures and Videos of Owned, Pwnd and Fail Moments (at

01:28 <efc> Nice

02:56 <XioNYC> If anyone's still awake, can someone make sense of why I got 0 credit and the other two CPUs got more than what I claimed? <>

02:56 <Romulus> <> (at

02:56 <XioNYC> I've got a lot of these instances.

02:56 <Tank_Master> Validate state Invalid

02:57 <Tank_Master>

02:57 <Romulus> <> (at

02:57 <XioNYC> ;-(

02:58 <Tank_Master> the result your client returned did not match the other 2, and was thus denied the credit

02:58 <XioNYC> I knew I shouldda gone to bed instead of askin'... ;-P

02:59 <Tank_Master> the other 2 were windows computers, yours is a power mac

02:59 <Tank_Master> its not to uncommong for that to hapen

02:59 <XioNYC> "too common" more like it.

02:59 <Tank_Master> lol

02:59 <XioNYC> Ugh... I think I'll discuss it with my pillow... g'night.

03:00 <Tank_Master> gn

03:07 <Tank_Master>

03:07 <Romulus> <> (at

03:07 <FreeLarry> humm is that a german workplace sign - for shame ;)

03:10 <Tank_Master>

03:10 <Romulus> <> (at

03:10 <Tank_Master> not as bad a shame as this ^^

03:11 <Soul_keeper> new wesnoth 1.6 came out today :)

03:11 <Tank_Master> new what?

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03:12 <FreeLarry> not much Tank_Master - have to agree - unless hanging outside a certain home

03:12 <FreeLarry> got the boy his new car today and told him to pay me monthly what they could afford

03:12 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, one of the biggest open source video games in existance

03:13 <Tank_Master> ahh

03:13 <FreeLarry> what type of game Soul_keeper

03:13 <Soul_keeper> turn based strategy

03:14 <Soul_keeper>  cooler than the website might look

03:14 <Romulus> Title: Battle for Wesnoth (at

03:14 <Soul_keeper> it's not an elf fetish thing ...

03:14 * FreeLarry scratches head and trys to remember - played one back on a 1200 baud modem and bbs

03:15 <Tank_Master>

03:15 <Romulus> <> (at

03:15 <FreeLarry> that board looks much nicer than what i tried

03:16 <Soul_keeper> anyways goodnight

03:16 <FreeLarry> basic spelling fail

03:16 <FreeLarry> nn Soul_keeper

03:17 <Tank_Master> gn sk

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03:20 <Tank_Master>

03:20 <Romulus> <> (at

03:24 <FreeLarry> no you cant lift a filled swimming pool over a house

03:24 <FreeLarry> especially an inground pool

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03:36 <FreeLarry> nn all - off to watch a little tv

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03:53 <FreeLarry> dang it what was that command for linux to stop and restart services? something with grep

04:05 <FreeLarry> found it

04:05 <FreeLarry> had to restart boinc to get superlink to upload

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06:34 <hawmps> 'mornin

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07:34 <CoderForLife> hello

07:35 <CoderForLife> back from the store - did the Saturday errands this morning

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08:04 <CoderForLife> expecting the siding repair guys between 8:30 and 9 this morning

08:08 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

08:09 <yoyo[RKN]> strange boinc

08:11 <CoderForLife> morning yoyo[RKN]

08:13 <yoyo[RKN]> how to instruct the boinc client to abort not started work units but not already running ones

08:16 <KathrynM> evening

08:16 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

08:16 <yoyo[RKN]> hi KathrynM

08:16 <KathrynM> cat went to the vet

08:16 <KathrynM> gained .5 kg

08:16 <CoderForLife> did the cat allow you to go along?

08:16 <KathrynM> welllllllllllllll, not willingly

08:16 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

08:16 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.47in / 998hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h | Updated: 12:50 PM CET; Rain. High:42 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:33 F.; Chance of Snow. High:39 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 F.; Chance of Snow. High:39 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:28 F.;

08:16 <KathrynM> she didn't appreciate being stuffed in her carrier

08:17 <CoderForLife> cats are "clawstrophobic"

08:17 <KathrynM> lol

08:18 <CoderForLife> I remember growing up having to put our cat Smokey in a cage when we would take the guinea pigs out to graze

08:19 <KathrynM> :D

08:19 <CoderForLife> you would have to sneak up on him, set the back edge of the cage on the ground behind him, and drop it down in front of him

08:20 <CoderForLife> he's see the cage dropping down in front, and turn around and run into the back of it

08:20 <KathrynM> :)

08:20 <KathrynM> Ivory is mauling her stuffed mouse

08:20 <CoderForLife> primal urges

08:21 <CoderForLife> did you see my additional caption suggestions?

08:22 * CoderForLife waits, um, patiently

08:22 <KathrynM> I think so

08:22 <KathrynM> for 18 and 24?

08:23 <CoderForLife> now i have to look

08:23 <CoderForLife> yes

08:23 <KathrynM> already doen

08:23 <KathrynM> errr done

08:23 <CoderForLife> Ooo nice

08:24 <CoderForLife> caption on 18?

08:25 <CoderForLife> I see a comment

08:28 * KathrynM is going to feed her highness and then good to bed

08:30 <CoderForLife> it's good to have goals

08:30 <KathrynM> Ivory happily munching away on dinner.

08:30 <KathrynM> Oh wait.  She had to go check out the toilet.

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08:31 <CoderForLife> I'm expecting my handymen anytime

08:31 <KathrynM> Make sure the water comes back into the bowl.

08:31 <KathrynM> Good luck.

08:31 <KathrynM> I'm going to finish watching this anciet episode of CSI:Miami

08:31 <KathrynM> nighttol

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08:55 <hawmps> btw.. jeepzilla is amazing...

08:57 <CoderForLife> my workers have arrived

08:58 <CoderForLife> congratulation on the vehicle hawmps

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10:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah BAC just loaned my city hundreds of millions of dollars at like 3%

10:34 <Soul_keeper> the major seems confident he can negotiate a lower rate in a year ....

10:34 <Soul_keeper> he put the libraries and parks up as collateral

10:35 <Soul_keeper> his original plan was to shutdown/sale the libraries/parks

10:37 <MTughan> FreeLarry: Superlink has been under a DDoS recently too.

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13:53 <old511> jello

13:53 <old511> more fun than haloo

13:54 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

13:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 62.6F / 17.0C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Warmer. Highs 62 to 67. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 42 to 51. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Warmer. Highs 71 to 76. Winds east 15 mph becoming west in the afternoon.;

13:54 <old511> thanks soul keeper

13:55 <old511> this box is toast for now so later all

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13:59 <hawmps> missed again.

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15:24 <jackygrahamez> come to my next meetup :-)

15:24 <jackygrahamez>

15:24 <Romulus> <> (at

15:24 <MTughan_> Nowhere near the location. :P

15:24 * PovAdct_w won't fly to the US

15:25 <Soul_keeper> is that like a "mandate" ?

15:25 <jackygrahamez> ok then walk :-)

15:25 <PovAdct_w> mtughan: shush I'm farther than you

15:25 <PovAdct_w> :P

15:25 <MTughan_> :P

15:25 <MTughan_> PovAdct_w: You can walk. xD

15:25 <PovAdct_w> yeah right

15:26 <PovAdct_w> well, I did fly to spain... 12 hours of plane

15:26 <jackygrahamez> ok I'll schedule one in Argentina and start walking

15:26 <PovAdct_w> washington should be closer

15:26 <jackygrahamez> I think they should change the US capitol every 4 years like the Olympics

15:27 <PovAdct_w> lol

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15:38 <MTughan_> 'l zombie67

15:38 <MTughan_> 'lo *

15:41 <zombie67> yoyo

15:41 <zombie67> er,

15:41 <zombie67> yo!  yo!

15:41 <MTughan_> :P

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> urgs

15:43 <MTughan_> yoyo[RKN]: Got about 5000 credits in ecm so far.

15:43 <yoyo[RKN]> with your mac 64?

15:43 <MTughan_> Yes.

15:43 <MTughan_> It was running on only one core until recently, shared with WCG. It's running on both cores now.

15:44 <yoyo[RKN]> so it runs well

15:44 <MTughan_> 5636.86 to be exact.

15:44 <MTughan_> So it seems.

15:44 <yoyo[RKN]> I just have problems in canceling wus

15:44 <MTughan_> So I noticed.

15:45 <yoyo[RKN]> if ecm found a factor it makes no more sense to continue this batch and i want to cancel the remaining ones

15:45 <yoyo[RKN]> but boinc also aborts already running wus

15:46 <yoyo[RKN]> and useres are claiming that wus which where running some hours are aborted

15:47 <MTughan_> You want them to be cancelled immediately, but they won't be canceled until the host contacts the project.

15:47 <MTughan_> This is my Mac BTW:

15:47 <Romulus> <> (at

15:47 <MTughan_> Also, I figured out the issue I had before where ld complained that an archive file contained the wrong architecture.

15:47 <MTughan_> It was talking about the libgmp.a archive.

15:47 <MTughan_> Apparently, it's a known bug caused by autoconf. Nothing they can fix right now.

15:48 <zombie67> looks like superlink is still DDOS

15:48 <MTughan_> Someone on the BOINCStats shoutbox said they were back up. I haven't tried reaching them after that.

15:50 <zombie67> RSS said back up, but not really

15:52 <xcamel> re-hi

15:52 <MTughan_> 'lo Jay

15:53 <MTughan_> Yeah, Superlink timed out when trying to open in FF.

15:54 <zombie67> they said they changed their IP

15:54 <MTughan_> I can confirm that... Give me a minute.

15:56 <MTughan_> No, the IP address in DNS is the one retrieved.

15:56 <MTughan_> Although the TTL value is rather large...

15:56 <MTughan_> &math 604800 / 86400

15:56 <Romulus> MTughan_: 7

15:56 <MTughan_> A week... Wow.

15:56 <zombie67> 2009-03-22: We have been under DDoS for the last few days, and it turns out that more than 40,000 connections per second were attempted to be established. This caused the Technion authority to decrease the input traffic, and later on close the service altogether. We are back to life now, but our IP has changed, in a hope to escape the DDoS. Nothing is required to be done to keep crunching - your computer will eventually find the

15:56 <zombie67> way to the server. Hope this incident will be the last one at least until this batch is finished.

15:57 <MTughan_> Posted yesterday... The TTL value is the maximum caching time of an IP address in DNS. Means that new clients may not pick up the new IP for a week.

15:57 <MTughan_> If there is/was one.

16:10 <jackygrahamez> later folks

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16:28 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: lol... Looking at Jeff Gilchrist on the mersenne forums, because he contributed to gmp-ecm and also lives in Ottawa apparently.

16:29 <MTughan> His site says he's studying his PhD in Systems and Computer Engineering here. I'm doing Software Engineering. xD

16:29 <yoyo[RKN]> so you can visit him

16:29 <MTughan> Yeah, no kidding.

16:50 <xcamel> you missed it mike - I "drove past you" on friday..

16:50 <MTughan> I saw it.

16:50 <MTughan> You drove up to Niagara.

16:51 <xcamel> prot huron (serna) to niagra

16:51 <xcamel> er "port" even

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16:51 <xcamel> they've really fixed up your roads..

16:52 <MTughan> You took the 402->401->QEW?

16:53 <MTughan> Actually, 402->401->403->QEW looks better...

16:55 <xcamel> the 2-1-3-QEW

16:55 <xcamel> came in morth of Niagra

16:55 <xcamel> sheesh..

16:55 <xcamel> north of

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17:00 <MTughan> Yeah, the QEW takes you north. The 420 takes you the short distance south.

17:03 <MTughan> "[The 401] has the distinction of being North America's busiest freeway."

17:03 <MTughan> That seems to be in total volume numbers, not density.

17:03 <xcamel> it was a beautiful day, and a very nice ride.

17:04 <xcamel> this blackberry upgrade is taking forever

17:09 <PovAddict> software bloat

17:09 <xcamel> bloatberry?

17:10 <PovAddict> see this post

17:10 <xcamel> hoping it isn't going to get bricked.

17:10 <Romulus> <> (at

17:11 <xcamel> hp is about the worst in the bloatware dept.

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17:53 <xcamel> finally updated. not bricked.

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19:03 <xcamel> back again

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19:06 <xcamel>

19:06 <Romulus> <> (at

19:07 <PovAddict> meh

19:07 <PovAddict> waste of a laser

19:07 <xcamel> not really

19:07 <PovAddict> war

19:11 <xcamel> to prevent war

19:11 <PovAddict> fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity

19:11 <wdsmia_> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:11 <xcamel> if someone invaded your country... trust me, you'd fight.

19:28 * CoderForLife hears language that wakes him up

19:29 <xcamel> lol

19:30 * CoderForLife bangs the family friendly kaxon with this keyboard

19:32 <xcamel> and the siding job says.."_______________"

19:33 <CoderForLife> you want to know the outcome?

19:34 <xcamel> btw.. now having quietly sarcastic fun househunting with Chris...

19:34 <CoderForLife> getting your hand out of that first-time home buyer credit?

19:34 <CoderForLife> of=for

19:35 <KathrynM> Happy Tuesday

19:35 <xcamel>,2933,510132,00.html

19:35 <Romulus> <> (at

19:35 <CoderForLife> hello Ms M

19:35 <KathrynM> Did we all survive Monday relatively unscathed?

19:35 <xcamel> cripes..

19:35 <CoderForLife> My house feels better now

19:35 <KathrynM> Good

19:35 <xcamel> that's good...

19:36 <xcamel> finding houses for $200, and offering $135

19:36 <CoderForLife> ack

19:36 * KathrynM considers breakfast

19:36 <CoderForLife> lol

19:36 <xcamel> consider well, grasshopper..

19:36 <CoderForLife> that's the going rate for McMansions now

19:36 <xcamel> before the cat gets the goods.

19:37 <xcamel> this is NY... half the house for twice the price...

19:37 <PovAddict> lol

19:37 <CoderForLife> most of the damage seems to have been leftover from the mouse war the former owners fought

19:38 <CoderForLife> in both of the soffits that were falling down were large (old) mouse nests

19:38 <xcamel> or those pesky grays

19:38 <xcamel> (more likely)

19:39 <CoderForLife> Resist The Greys

19:39 <CoderForLife> one dead mouse fell out when they opened one of the soffits

19:39 <xcamel> they love soffits

19:39 <sohum> hm. I seem unable to connect boincmgr to boinc_client

19:39 <xcamel> and trailer parks

19:40 <CoderForLife> indeed

19:40 <sohum> and I've allowed all connections locally, though that should not be necessary

19:40 <xcamel> gui_rpc?

19:40 <CoderForLife> in response, I'll be refreshing the D-Con in the attic

19:40 <sohum> boincmgr, which I think is the renamed gui on debian

19:41 <xcamel> naaah... get a 12Ga.

19:41 <PovAddict> ooh on-topic questions

19:41 <sohum> the server's definitely running, because netstat says: tcp        0      0 *:31416                 *:*                     LISTEN      21724/boinc

19:41 <PovAddict> sohum: what error, if any, does boincmgr give?

19:41 <xcamel> ps ax | grep boinc

19:42 <sohum> just "Error"

19:42 <PovAddict> ah great -.-

19:42 <sohum> oh, there we g

19:42 <xcamel> figures.

19:42 <sohum> "Unable to connect to the core client"

19:42 <PovAddict> try boinccmd... it's an abomination of a user interface but gives more verbose errors :)

19:42 <sohum> is there a log somewhere I could poke at? I couldn't find anything in /var/logs

19:42 <PovAddict> such as boinccmd --get_project_status

19:43 <xcamel> CFL >>

19:43 <Romulus> <> (at

19:43 <sohum> Authorization failure

19:43 <sohum> hurm.

19:43 * PovAddict rolls drums and gives CoderForLife a microphone

19:43 <xcamel> no password?

19:44 <sohum> I haven't set up any authorisation on boinc itself

19:44 <xcamel> hmmm..

19:44 <PovAddict> sohum: did you install through distro packages?

19:44 <sohum> PovAddict: yep.

19:44 <xcamel> boinc connected to any projects?

19:44 <PovAddict> see if boincmgr got added to the program list in your desktop environment

19:44 <sohum> xcamel: wouldn't know, as I can't connect to the client

19:45 <PovAddict> like the K menu on KDE

19:45 <sohum> PovAddict: not running a desktop environment. what do you mean by "Program List"?

19:45 <PovAddict> ahh

19:45 <PovAddict> well the equivalent of Windows's "Start menu" :)

19:45 <sohum> well, I am, but it's xmonad

19:45 <xcamel> on console... add a project

19:46 <PovAddict> anyway... try running boincmgr from /var/lib/boinc-client

19:46 <PovAddict> (= with that as current working directory)

19:46 <sohum> ahha

19:46 <sohum> worketh

19:46 <PovAddict> ok, what distro?

19:46 <sohum> debian

19:47 <PovAddict> I'm *tired* of that problem, I'll go make a mess in a bug tracker

19:47 <sohum> *nod* fair enough

19:47 <xcamel> working_directory_common_FUBAR

19:47 <sohum> thankee, guys

19:49 <PovAddict> no w$%& tomorrow \o/

19:51 <PovAddict> I have been playing with PXELINUX

19:51 <PovAddict> got Ubuntu installer to boot through network, and read a bit on how to edit the boot screen (options, graphics, help text)

19:57 * CoderForLife looks at the microphone, turns it on, and hand it back to PovAddict

19:57 <PovAddict> I was expecting your quote

19:57 <PovAddict> [20:43] <sohum> Authorization failure

19:57 <PovAddict> [20:43] <sohum> hurm.

19:58 <CoderForLife> Ah, I missed the cue

19:58 <PovAddict> heh

19:58 <CoderForLife> ahem...

19:58 <CoderForLife> "Security Is Rarely Convenient"

19:58 * CoderForLife bows to the wild applause

19:59 <sohum> hahaha

19:59 <xcamel> and rarely secure

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19:59 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:59 <PovAddict> hey efc

19:59 <CoderForLife> my second favorite oxymoron:  distributed security

20:00 <efc> moo

20:00 <CoderForLife> moo efc

20:00 * CoderForLife waits for the question

20:01 <PovAddict> "business intelligence"

20:01 <PovAddict> "Microsoft Works"

20:01 <CoderForLife> my first favorite oxymoron is from w@#%:  "death benefit"

20:03 <xcamel> "government help"

20:03 <CoderForLife> meh - only funny to insurance-types I reckon

20:04 * CoderForLife keeps hoping his Arduino comes soon

20:05 <CoderForLife> I bought my first microcontroller, rather than building some hardwired logic

20:06 <CoderForLife> Although I have that BSEE, and I am a Coder

20:07 <CoderForLife> I bought one of these

20:07 <Romulus> <> (at

20:08 <CoderForLife> turns out there's a chat room on FreeNode

20:10 <efc> Built a cylon brain yet?

20:10 <CoderForLife> working on it

20:10 <efc> i hope you get the glowing spine part right

20:11 <CoderForLife> that part is interesting

20:12 <CoderForLife> I had a breakthrough last night - I now understand that you need to start with the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve

20:12 <efc> first you abandon all your technology

20:12 <CoderForLife> it's all pretty straightforward after that - all this has happened before, all this will happen again

20:13 * CoderForLife hums "All Along The Watchtower"

20:13 <xcamel> as Hendrix appears..

20:13 <CoderForLife> .. so much confusion ..

20:14 <xcamel> I can't get no relief...

20:14 <CoderForLife> said The Joker to The Thief

20:16 * efc the analogy with multiple nuclear warheads

20:16 <efc> ^ends

20:16 <CoderForLife> I bet Resurrection Technology would sell pretty well

20:17 <CoderForLife> I could probaly retire and live happily ever ... ever ...  ever ...

20:18 <MTughan> "Oops: Colbert wins space station name contest":

20:18 <Romulus> Title: Oops: Colbert wins space station name contest- (at

20:18 <MTughan> And the one time I type out the title, Rommie grabs it... >_>

20:19 <efc> The res tech stuff was really beyond explanation.. they appeared to not have FTL communication, so how did they do it?

20:20 <CoderForLife> that what happens in a democracy - the most outrageous things can get voted in

20:20 <PovAddict> sohum:

20:20 <Romulus> <> (at

20:21 * CoderForLife adjusts his IRC settings - some interference between SciFi and reality

20:21 <CoderForLife> sorry efc - say again

20:22 <sohum> aha, thankee

20:22 <PovAddict> I have no idea how to report a bug on debian, and I already had an Ubuntu launchpad account, so.. :)

20:22 <sohum> heh

20:23 <sohum> hmm. ubuntu does talk to upstream, but I'm not sure how much gets through

20:23 <PovAddict> well this bug is related to the packaging

20:23 <PovAddict> boinccmd and boincmgr should look for the password in /var/lib/boinc-client

20:23 <sohum> *nod*

20:23 <PovAddict> but that directory doesn't even exist if you install BOINC from source... it's set up that way in the Debian/Ubuntu packages

20:24 <sohum> I see

20:25 <CoderForLife> OK - I've caused enough trouble and off-topic stuff here tonight - gn boincfolks

20:28 <xcamel> laterz..

20:28 <KathrynM> Off to w&@%.  Got a meeting afterwards and then staff dinner.  Ugh

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20:45 <xcamel> damned internet

21:05 <XioNYC> Tubes dammed?

21:05 <MTughan> Very possible...

21:05 <Romulus> Title: DroneBL Blog: Net!@#& Bluepill - stealth router-based botnet has been DDoSing dronebl for the last couple of weeks (at

21:05 <MTughan> A worm that infects DNS routers.

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21:06 <XioNYC> "If you build it, they will (exploit|hack|port Linux to) it"

21:07 <xcamel> I think my juniper firewall is going to buy the farm.

21:08 <MTughan> Where'd Doug go?

21:09 <xcamel> lala land

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21:11 <xcamel> and "POOF!"

22:10 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

22:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 66.3F / 19.1C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Thunderstorms...breezy. Low in the lower 50s. Southeast wind 10 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 50 mph decreasing to 30 mph after midnight. Chance of thunderstorms 90 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Thunderstorms likely (1 more message)

22:10 <wdsmia> &more

22:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: in the morning. Cooler. High in the mid 50s. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Low in the lower 30s. Southwest wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Wind Advisory for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on March 23, 2009;

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22:14 <FreeLarry> humm guess superlink back offline again

22:14 <FreeLarry> they been getting hit with ddos attacks recently i hear - wonder why someone would do that

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