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01:39 <FreeLarry58> &quiet
01:39 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers
02:13 <efc> &8ball
02:13 <Romulus> efc: What are you asking me for?
02:50 <Tidus> &roulette
02:50 <Romulus> Tidus: *click*
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03:05 <FreeLarry58> &8ball is Romulus all knowing?
03:05 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: No clue.
03:06 <FreeLarry58> good answer
03:06 <FreeLarry58> &roulette
03:06 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: *click*
03:07 <Tidus> &roulette
03:07 <Romulus> Tidus: *click*
03:07 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
03:08 <FreeLarry58> moin yoyo[RKN]
03:10 <FreeLarry58> apperntly superlink still down
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03:23 <XioNYC> &roulette
03:23 <Romulus> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
03:23 * Romulus reloads and spins the chambers.
03:23 * XioNYC always gets the laoded blank
03:24 <FreeLarry58> that's because Romulus shopps at the starter store
03:26 <FreeLarry58> i guess the ddos attackers forced superlink completely off line finally - and me with 7 units to upload and report
03:26 <FreeLarry58> cant even get thier web pages
03:28 <XioNYC> Think of it as PPC BOINCers' revenge. But maliciously so, instead of grumblingly so.
03:28 <FreeLarry58> ppc?
03:28 <Romulus> Somebody said ppc is a waste of time now, FreeLarry58
03:28 <XioNYC> *BANG*
03:28 <XioNYC> x86?
03:28 <Romulus> Somebody said x86 is not interesting, it's for pussies :P, XioNYC
03:29 <XioNYC> I must have a word with this Somebody person...
03:29 <XioNYC> ...and you watch your mouth, you damn dirty bot!
03:30 * FreeLarry58 looks over at somebody and stocade and wonders how they using thier hands
03:35 <FreeLarry58> oh the joys of not being able to read
03:35 * FreeLarry58 gets fork and spoon ready
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03:56 <XioNYC> Cooking Humans
03:56 <XioNYC> Cooking for Humans
03:56 <XioNYC> Cooking forty Humans
03:57 <XioNYC> Cooking for forty Humans
03:57 <XioNYC> Dust accumulates on the book cover like you wouldn't believe
04:42 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 47.4°F / 8.6°C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Southeast winds 15 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then cloudy with showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to (1 more message)
04:42 <CoderForLife> &more
04:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 25 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. Showers...mainly in the morning. Colder with highs in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
04:43 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977
04:43 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 43.7°F / 6.5°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny...warmer. Highs 73 to 78. Winds east 15 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 41 to 50. Light winds.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 73 to 78. Light winds.;
04:48 <CoderForLife> brb emergency breakfast
04:59 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
04:59 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 37Â°F / 3Â°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.44in / 997hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CET; Chance of Snow. High:37 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:39 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:42 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 ° F.;
05:03 <Soul_keeper> hmmm they sale dell P4 systems for 100 bucks now
05:07 <efc> moo
05:16 <CoderForLife> moo
05:18 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%
05:19 <efc> yuck
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05:52 <ELGono> moo dudes
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06:15 <CoderForLife> moo ELGono
06:17 <CoderForLife> offen to verken - laterz
07:01 <hawmps> mornin
07:32 *** hawmps sets mode: -o hawmps
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10:22 <zombie67> what is the command for windows to update the DNS info?
10:22 <zombie67> something flush?
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10:34 <hawmps> hmmm... dunno
10:34 <hawmps> ipconfig /flush?
10:34 <MTughan> zombie67: ipconfig /flushdns
10:34 <MTughan> Close Jay. :P
10:35 <PovAddict> I always forget if it's flushdns or dnsflush
10:36 <MTughan> OS X Leopard: dscacheutil -flushcache
10:36 * PovAddict created an up-to-date readahead file
10:36 <zombie67> thanks!
10:36 <PovAddict> should load all the needed KDE files into disk cache before I type my password :)
10:36 * PovAddict has to reboot, to sync his clock to BIOS
10:37 <MTughan> Apparently, restarting the nscd daemon under Linux refreshes the DNS cache.
10:37 * PovAddict disappears
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10:37 <MTughan> Either through "service nscd restart" or "/etc/init.d/nscd restart"
10:40 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
10:41 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
10:41 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 36Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1001hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 3:20 PM CET; Chance of Snow. High:39 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:24 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:39 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:26 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:42 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ° F.;
10:41 * yoyo[RKN] needs cappucino
10:42 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo
10:42 <yoyo[RKN]> booting cappu system
10:43 <zombie67> crap
10:43 <zombie67> with the new IP at superlink
10:43 <zombie67> requires ipconfig /flushdns
10:43 <zombie67> quuitting/restarting BOINC is not enough
10:43 <zombie67> requires rebooting as well
10:43 <zombie67> my BRUP tasks will LOVE that
10:43 <MTughan> Like I said, because the TTL value for their domain is abnormally high.
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10:44 <zombie67> my point is that a reboot is required to get BOINC to see it
10:44 <PovAddict> logging in was substantially faster after the readahead
10:46 <zombie67> why won't BOINC see the new DNS for the project, even after a quit/start?
10:46 <zombie67> I mean IP address
10:46 <PovAddict> $ nslookup projecthostname
10:46 <MTughan> PovAddict: Windows.
10:46 <PovAddict> is it the new IP? :)
10:46 <zombie67> I did that. Windows sees the new address
10:46 <zombie67> yes
10:47 <MTughan> Oh, that is a Windows command... nvm
10:47 <PovAddict> how is the Windows tool for DNS lookups called? :)
10:47 <PovAddict> zombie67: then restarting the core client should be enough... hmm
10:47 <zombie67> I opened a terminal and ran the command
10:47 <zombie67> it sees the we IP address
10:47 <zombie67> quit/restarted BOINC....no good
10:47 <zombie67> rebooted, now it works
10:53 <zombie67> Oh, BTW this same behavior is happening both on XP64 and Leopard OSX
10:54 <PovAddict> that's weird
10:54 <MTughan> Does curl keep its own DNS cache?
10:54 <PovAddict> BOINC has DNS cache problems, where it may keep the old IP
10:54 <PovAddict> yes MTughan
10:54 <PovAddict> but it goes away when you restart the client!
10:54 <zombie67> aparrently not
10:55 <PovAddict> there's nowhere it could be saving the cache...
10:55 <PovAddict> ok, today I'll try to code more and chat less...
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10:58 <yoyo[RKN]> oh, cappu system failure
10:58 <yoyo[RKN]> out of milk, out of coffee beans
10:59 <yoyo[RKN]> ahh
10:59 <yoyo[RKN]> and out of water
10:59 <zombie67> how can one be out of watter
10:59 <zombie67> ?
10:59 <zombie67> turn on tap
10:59 <MTughan> The cappucino machine is out of water.
10:59 <zombie67> ah
11:00 <PovAddict> ran out of all three at the same time?
11:00 <MTughan> * yoyo[RKN] needs cappucino
11:00 <MTughan> <yoyo[RKN]> booting cappu system
11:00 <PovAddict> lol booting
11:01 <yoyo[RKN]> the first time that all 3 ran out
11:01 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: does it support HTCPCP?
11:02 <yoyo[RKN]> HTCPC?
11:02 <PovAddict> &google rfc2324
11:02 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.16 seconds: RFC 2324 ( rfc2324 ) - Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol ...: <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2324.html>; RFC2324: <http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt>; My Ideas: Make a coffee machine that talks rfc2324: <http://computingideas.blogspot.com/2008/06/make-coffee-machine-that-talks-rfc2324.html>; #hashtags - rfc2324: <http://hashtags.org/tag/rfc2324>; (2 more messages)
11:03 <yoyo[RKN]> the commands are not the problem, only the refil stuff is problematic
11:04 <PovAddict> well with that protocol it could send you email before it runs out of stuff :)
11:04 <PovAddict> (except RFC 2324 is an April Fools RFC)
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12:11 <zombie67> MT, what is TTL value?
12:11 <MTughan> What does the value represent, or what is it for Superlink?
12:12 <zombie67> the former. the latter is 7 days, right?
12:12 <MTughan> The latter is 7 days, yep.
12:12 <MTughan> The TTL value represents the maximum time the DNS record can be stored on a server before updating it.
12:13 <zombie67> what is normal?
12:13 <MTughan> So if a DNS server updated its record just before the actual record was modified at the source, it'll take the TTL time until the record is updated again.
12:13 <MTughan> Usually I think it's 86400 seconds, or one day.
12:14 <zombie67> so changing it now won't help this time, but would help in for future changes, right?
12:14 <MTughan> You can't change the value.
12:15 <zombie67> I know I can't, I am going to ask the project to change it
12:15 <MTughan> Didn't they already?
12:15 <zombie67> they changed the IP address. I am talking about having them changing the TTL value from 7 to 1
12:16 <zombie67> days
12:16 <Punky260> I think it's not very intelligent to do changes in something like that now.
12:16 <zombie67> [09:14] <zombie67> so changing it now won't help this time, but would help in for future changes, right?
12:16 <MTughan> Ah. If they can do that, it'll take up to the current TTL time for it to change, but that'd probably be better.
12:17 <MTughan> TTL stands for Time To Live BTW. ;)
12:17 <zombie67> thanks. I am going to copy/paste a lot of this.
12:17 <Punky260> yeah, but how often does the IP change for a project ?!
12:17 <zombie67> not frequently.
12:18 <MTughan> Nope, but it helps when you need to.
12:18 <zombie67> but when they do, like in this case, it can take up to a WEEK before we see it
12:18 <Punky260> Almost never ^^ -it was just because their university had internet problems
12:18 <zombie67> they had DDoS
12:18 <Punky260> mhh, ok that's right ....
12:18 <MTughan> Of course, if the DDoS'ers are using the DNS record to resolve the IP occasionally, that won't block them, but that's harder to deal with.
12:19 <zombie67> and I am thinking ahead. What happens if the bad guys do it again with the new address?
12:19 <Punky260> Okay ... now I understand your idea behind it ^^
12:19 <zombie67> how does one look at the TTL value
12:19 <zombie67> ?
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12:21 <zombie67> thanks MT!
12:21 <MTughan> np
12:21 <MTughan> And I have to be off now... Feel free to flash me at any point.
12:21 <MTughan> Oh, and zombie67: The TTL value is stored as seconds. Divide it by 86400 to find the days.
12:22 <zombie67> got it
12:22 <MTughan> (which is 60 * 60 * 24)
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12:29 <Soul_keeper> Ha! red head was flirting with me
12:30 <Soul_keeper> i'm a champion
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13:56 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan: ?
13:56 <Romulus> It has been said that MTughan: is the transfers tab fully !@#&ing, yoyo[RKN]
13:58 <MTughan> Nice timeing yoyo[RKN]... Just got back.
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14:02 <yoyo[RKN]> do you remember how long the test ecm was running on your mac?
14:02 <MTughan> Your test?
14:02 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
14:02 <MTughan> I think it was about 56 minutes.
14:03 <yoyo[RKN]> on 32 or 64bit?
14:03 <MTughan> Uh... Good question.
14:03 <MTughan> I don't remember.
14:04 <Soul_keeper> good work
14:04 <MTughan> I would think 32-bit, because I think we were still trying to get the 64-bit compile.
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14:46 <Soul_keeper> http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=45&threadid=2287450&enterthread=y xeon for 70 bucks cheaper than retail ...
15:26 <Soul_keeper> ./gpumeminfo
15:26 <Soul_keeper> Detected 1 GPU
15:26 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Device: 0
15:26 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Free : 346402816 bytes (338284 KB) (330 MB)
15:26 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Total: 536150016 bytes (523584 KB) (511 MB)
15:26 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ 64.609308% free, 35.390692% used
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15:41 <Soul_keeper> so it appears gpugrid is only using about 180MB on my 9800GT
15:43 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Used : 60338176 bytes (58924 KB) (57 MB) drops to 57 when suspended
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15:45 <Tank_Master> so a 256MB card should be sufficent
15:45 <Soul_keeper> seems so
15:45 <Soul_keeper> i'd test seti cuda, but their server is down
15:45 <Tank_Master> lol
15:45 <Soul_keeper> they have weekly downtime every tuesday for 4hrs now it seems
15:45 <Tank_Master> its tuesday
15:46 <Tank_Master> yep
15:46 <Soul_keeper> i'm glad i learned about cuMemGetInfo, it pays to troll in the cuda chan :)
16:06 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Used : 278155264 bytes (271636 KB) (265 MB) <- seti cuda
16:07 <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Used : 189747200 bytes (185300 KB) (180 MB) <- gpugrid
16:07 <Soul_keeper> so looks like seti would benefit from 512MB
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16:18 <Tank_Master> ok :)
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17:15 <PovAddict> hey mweltin
17:21 <mweltin> hey Pov
17:21 <Tank_Master> mweltin!
17:21 <mweltin> how is life in the fast lane?
17:23 <mweltin> Tank!
17:23 <mweltin> you coming downtown at all this week?
17:25 <MTughan> Dell Adamo has non-user replaceable battery. http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/23004/24028/dell-adamo-battery-not-replaceable.phtml
17:25 <Romulus> Title: Dell Adamo battery not replaceable (at www.pocket-lint.com)
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17:32 <CoderForLife> home again
17:36 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
17:37 <CoderForLife> hello Michael
17:37 <Tank_Master> no, im not, y?
17:37 <Tank_Master> BadBarbarian!!!
17:37 <CoderForLife> hello Tank_Master
17:37 <Tank_Master> howdy CFL
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18:30 <CoderForLife> re-hi - din-din done
18:30 * CoderForLife looks way out the weather window
18:31 <CoderForLife> some rain approaching in Illinois
18:31 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
18:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 70.3°F / 21.3°C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5.3mph / 8.5km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers this evening. Showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Wednesday - Showers...mainly in (1 more message)
18:31 <CoderForLife> &more
18:31 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the morning. Highs in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Wednesday Night - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph...becoming east after midnight.;
18:31 <CoderForLife> they seem pretty sure about it
18:32 <CoderForLife> the arduino didn't come today =(
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18:44 <KathrynM> Happy Hump Day
18:45 <CoderForLife> hi KathrynM
18:45 * KathrynM yawns
18:45 <CoderForLife> Since I was @home yesterday, I wuz confuzed at w@#% today as to what day it wuz
18:50 <KathrynM> Understandable
18:50 <KathrynM> I had two meetings yesterday. Talk about painful.
18:50 <KathrynM> Plus a dinner.
18:51 <KathrynM> I left here at 9:30 am and got back shortly after 9 pm.
18:51 <jasong> Has anyone ever heard of a board games called Settlers, or Settlers of [some odd word I can't remember that has two As in it]
18:52 <jasong> ahh, found it, Settlers of Catan
18:53 <CoderForLife> heh
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19:08 <Tank_Master> this intel mobo
19:08 <Tank_Master> iI got is sweet
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19:08 <Tank_Master> no flooy, no IDE, no ps2, no serial, no parallel...
19:09 <Tank_Master> 5 sata, 10 USB, and dual onbled DVI connectors
19:10 <Soul_keeper> lol, i just figured it out. I have an advantage in life now
19:10 <Tank_Master> oh?
19:10 <Soul_keeper> I have no plans or dreams that can be crushed
19:10 <MTughan> I have 6 SATA, 12 USB, two DVI connectors (video card, not onboard).
19:11 <MTughan> It does have IDE, Floppy, and PS/2 ports though... No serial or parallel I'm happy to say.
19:11 <Tank_Master> this has dual dvi onbord...
19:11 <Soul_keeper> what chipset ?
19:11 <MTughan> What GPU?
19:11 <MTughan> Sounds like a Nvidia.
19:12 <Soul_keeper> the latest linux kernel (released yesterday) adds support for the intel G4x integrated chipsets
19:12 <Tank_Master> no, its an intel mobo
19:12 <Tank_Master> so intel vid
19:12 <MTughan> What chipset?
19:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah intel stickers on the box make it cool ...
19:13 <Tank_Master> one sec...
19:13 <PovAddict> KathrynM: was it meetings with other teachers at w$%&?
19:13 <Punky260> It's just the future ... who needs IDE or floppy ? And even PS/2 is not up to date ...
19:13 <PovAddict> or with parents?
19:14 <MTughan> Punky260: Agreed. I only needed IDE because I kept my old DVD drives.
19:14 <MTughan> But they can easily be served by SATA now.
19:14 <PovAddict> I can't wait to get my new hard disk -.-
19:14 <PovAddict> and UPS
19:14 <Punky260> mhh, okay ... I have to say, my DVD-drive is IDE too. A very fast and silent one from Asus ...
19:15 <Soul_keeper> Punky260, you got a gtx260 ?
19:15 <Punky260> but I would change it if it fits not to the board
19:15 <MTughan> I actually still have a DVD reader only, not a burner. The second drive I have is a full burner.
19:15 <Punky260> yes, a XFX GTX260 Black Edition =)
19:15 <Punky260> MTughan: Same here =)
19:16 <MTughan> Punky260: Do you find it's faster than the burner at reading data?
19:16 <Tank_Master> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121357R <- thats the mobo I got
19:16 <Punky260> mhh ... It's just the feeling, but I would say yes.
19:16 <Soul_keeper> that small program will tell you how much graphics mem you are using at any given time
19:16 <MTughan> A Q45...
19:17 <MTughan> Integrated X4500 graphics.
19:17 * CoderForLife blows a fuse, trips a breaker, and otherwise flames out
19:17 <CoderForLife> gn all
19:17 <MTughan> Night.
19:17 <Punky260> okay, I save it ...
19:17 <MTughan> Why do you have a fuse and a breaker on the same circuit?
19:20 <Tank_Master> gn CFL
19:20 <Tank_Master> chained togather?
19:21 <MTughan> That
19:21 <Punky260> Tank_Master: Board looks simpel ... but not bad ;)
19:21 <MTughan> That's how, not why.
19:21 <Tank_Master> I got it 1/2 off cus its boxed..
19:22 <Tank_Master> dont matter, im just using it t replace a mobo that died and selling the entire comp
19:22 <MTughan> What the... Win7 didn't change the time for DST.
19:22 <MTughan> No wonder I went to dinner early today.
19:22 <PovAddict> lol!
19:22 <Punky260> I just heard good thinks about "pure" intel boards ...
19:22 <PovAddict> I had issues with that
19:23 <PovAddict> Linux adjusted for DST instantly
19:23 <Tank_Master> the intel mobos are extreamly stable
19:23 <Tank_Master> crap for overclocking though
19:23 <PovAddict> but system clock is saved to hardware clock only on a clean shutdown
19:23 <Tank_Master> but they are better than they used to be
19:23 <PovAddict> I had a dozen "unclean" reboots since the clock got adjusted
19:23 <MTughan> Ah, possible...
19:23 <PovAddict> every time Linux loaded the incorrect system clock on boot
19:23 <Soul_keeper> is your bios time set right ?
19:24 <PovAddict> (which also messed up Linux's notion of UTC)
19:24 <Punky260> yeah, but the new Intel chips are very nice for overclocking too ...
19:24 <PovAddict> the solution was to do an ntp sync and then do a clean reboot to make it save to BIOS
19:24 <PovAddict> ...the idiot then assumed the BIOS clock *always* had a 620sec/day drift!
19:25 <MTughan> All right, time synchronized.
19:25 <Soul_keeper> well my system has a drift, the overclocking confuses things
19:25 <PovAddict> I had to delete the hw clock drift file
19:25 <PovAddict> (/etc/adjtime or something)
19:26 <MTughan> Uh... I suppose this is a known issue. BOINC crashed.
19:26 <MTughan> I changed the time, and it crashed.
19:26 <PovAddict> crashing isn't a known issue
19:27 <PovAddict> it's possible it stops computing for an hour, or immediately thinks apps crashed, or other strange behavior
19:27 <PovAddict> but a client crash is always a fixable bug
19:27 <MTughan> There. The daemon stopped the apps or something, but it still said they were running.
19:27 <MTughan> The manager did crash though.
19:27 <MTughan> It'
19:27 <MTughan> It's back on track.
19:28 <PovAddict> the apps thought "no heartbeat from client for 30 seconds, exiting"
19:28 <MTughan> Whose wise idea what it anyway to put the Enter key right by the apostrophe?
19:28 <Soul_keeper> yeah always exit boinc before adjusting system time, it does odd things
19:29 <Soul_keeper> i heard some french guy is claiming he has the patent on Dvorak says nobody can use it unless they pay him
19:30 <MTughan> Microsoft's gaming section is promoting a new piracy protection scheme. "Call it anything but DRM"
19:31 <PovAddict> lol
19:31 <PovAddict> got a link?
19:31 <PovAddict> piracy protection scheme: lower prices
19:31 <Soul_keeper> i heard the reason atom can't play blueray is because of drm
19:31 <Soul_keeper> it apparently chews up a lot of cpu cycles
19:32 <PovAddict> I heard of companies having "digital distribution" (pay the game, download the game)
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19:32 <MTughan> It's an ArsTechnica article where I saw it...
19:32 <Tank_Master> ?
19:32 <PovAddict> but downloading it costs the same as a physical CD
19:32 <Tank_Master> the ion plays blueray just fine
19:32 <PovAddict> even though there is no cost of making the CD, distributing it, leaving some money for the brick-and-mortar shop, etc
19:32 <Tank_Master> and that uses an atom
19:32 <Soul_keeper> not the recent article i just saw
19:32 <PovAddict> so it's just MORE PROFIT
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19:34 <jasong> I know everybody hates DRM(I do, too), but I think there are ways to make things work. for instance, what about a physical key that you plug into a USB-type device to unlock the game? When you sell the game, you pass on the key. Maybe crackable, but I can't any obvious way to do it
19:34 <jasong> +see
19:34 <MTughan> Duplicate the partition on the USB drive?\
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19:35 <PovAddict> jasong: USB dongles are really annoying stuff
19:35 <zombie67> "A CBS News/New York Times poll revealed Tuesday that Americans are split into three separate camps when it comes to the growing national frustration: Those who think everything is taking too long; those who think everything is taking too goddamn long; and a third fringe group that believes everything is taking fucking forever."
19:35 <wdsmia> asks zombie67 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
19:36 <Soul_keeper> maybe they can do like MS and have you call india and read them a 60 digit cd key, then they give you another 40 digit key or whatever and you activate it. .... could do that everytime you play. it'd be fun
19:36 <jasong> No, the key is a physical key, with the drm hidden within. You'd have to hack the key, not simply duplicate the data
19:37 <PovAddict> MTughan: not USB flash storage with a file in it
19:38 <PovAddict> a custom USB device that, for example, decrypts
19:39 <PovAddict> jasong: btw it's not a new idea
19:40 <PovAddict> there have been copy prevention dongles using the parallel port; that should let you know how old the idea is
19:41 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, lol they removed the article on ION showing poor blue ray performance. apparently nvidia contacted them and asked them to pull the article untill they can "recreate the environment" and test it themselves using the same titles
19:41 <PovAddict> caca de toro
19:42 <Tank_Master> ahh, I know the article ytour talking about
19:42 <Tank_Master> that was pulled a long time ago
19:43 <Soul_keeper> no follow up yet. maybe it's a matter of drivers
19:46 <Soul_keeper> excellent
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19:56 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, you ever "touch danced" with another man ?
19:57 <MTughan> What?
19:59 <PovAddict> ...
19:59 <Soul_keeper> apparently that's not a common term, nm
19:59 <Tank_Master> o0?
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20:12 <efc> moo
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21:02 <xcamel> re-hi
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21:05 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
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21:23 <xcamel> &wx 12074
21:23 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 31.7°F / -0.2°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.55in / 1034.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 20. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. Not as cool with highs in the upper 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear in the (1 more message)
21:23 <xcamel> &more
21:23 <Romulus> xcamel: evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Not as cool with lows in the lower 30s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
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21:58 <xcamel> laterz..
22:01 <jasong> Hey, on a US timezone map, what's that weird place in Arizona?
22:03 <jasong> hmmmm, It's a Daylight's savings time free zone, but who are the renegades
22:03 * jasong goes to Google, brb with the answer
22:04 <jasong> ah, Phoenix, Arizona must be filled with stubborn people(like my house)
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22:55 <jasong> Did I already mention what an "I am extremely" entry generates in Google's suggestions?
22:56 <jasong> Go to the actual Google search page and type that in without pressing Enter
22:56 <MTughan> "I am extremely afraid of Chinese people"?
22:56 <jasong> lol, yeah
22:56 <MTughan> I remember seeing that somewhere else...
22:56 <jasong> Failblog
22:56 <MTughan> Probably.
22:56 <PovAddict> worst of all
22:57 <PovAddict> that line keeps going up in the suggestion rank
22:57 <jasong> lol
22:57 <PovAddict> because of all the people posting "Okay, type in "I am extremely" into the google searchbar. One of the suggestions is "I am extremely terrified of chinese people". Why? Don't you find that hilarious?" in forums
22:57 <PovAddict> making that phrase even more frequent in the web
22:58 <XioNYC> Google-bombing. In meme form. >_<
22:58 <jasong> lol, I am part of an idiotic meme.
22:58 <MTughan> Considering this now gets posted on Jay's #boinc logs. :P
22:58 <jasong> Jay?
22:58 <Romulus> Jay are you hip deep in snow yet, jasong
22:59 <MTughan> xcamel
22:59 <jasong> ahhh
22:59 <jasong> What's his full first name?
22:59 * XioNYC starts singing "Meme-ory" from the famous off-cyberBroadway musical, "LOLCats"
22:59 <MTughan> Dunno. I know he's Jay Curtis though.
23:00 <jasong> ahhhh, I think I've seen him in Mersenne Forum
23:00 <MTughan> Really?
23:00 <jasong> Could be another Curtis, there are probably 100,000 of em
23:00 <MTughan> (BTW, I'm a recent addition to the mersenne forum, under jedirock ;) )
23:01 <jasong> But since it's another DCing forum, call it a theory
23:01 <jasong> nice
23:01 <MTughan> Helped Alex Kruppa fix gmp-ecm for Mac.
23:01 <jasong> yeah, when I do anything where I don't want to be tracked, I call myself Casper42. I never realized it before, but there are a ton of hits for that username
23:02 <jasong> ahh, that's where I remember it from
23:02 <jasong> oh, and none of the hits are me, which is the reason I was so amazed
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